The Vicki McKenna Show (WIBA)August 11, 20261h 46m

Vicki McKenna Show - 2026 Primary Election Day

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There was an 82% increase in miscarriages during the rollout of the COVID shots, an 82% increase. Now, I remember when I had Michael Yeedon, some of you may remember this, those of you who were really plugged into the COVID issue back then. I had Michael Yeadon, who was a research director, one of the main research directors for Pfizer, and he quit. to start his own company, his own pharmaceutical company. And he saw the safety signals on the spike protein and the MRNA right away. And he was on my program for an hour discussing particularly the impact that that shock could have on pregnant women and reproductive health, fertility. He was called a kook. He was canceled. He was turned into persona non grata. He was threatened for doing that. He was right. Anthony Fauci knew he was right. Rochelle Walenski knew he was right. Everybody knew he was right. But it didn't matter. They tried to destroy the man anyway. But we'll get into all of that coming up on the program. All right. First, though, your chance to win a trip for two to the IHeart Radio Music Festival. This is a prize package that is worth a buttload of money. First off, you get round-trip airfare. to Las Vegas. You get a two-night hotel stay. You get tickets to both nights of the IHeart Radio Music Festival, which includes Guy Benson Boone, Laney Wilson, Major Laser, Mews, Snoop Dog, Zero Larson, Weezer, Kenny Chesney, Goo Goo Goo Dolls, Mark Carney, and BTS. So you get tickets to both nights of the show. By the way, we're adding bands as we speak. and a thousand bucks. And on top of all of it, you get $1,000. So here is your word for the nine o'clock hour. It's Lucky, L-U-C-K-Y, Lucky, and you're just going to text the word lucky to the number 200-200-200. Open up your text messages, type in 200, 200, type in the word lucky, and that's your automatic entry. Simple. I love it when it's simple. And we will let you know if you win. We call. We don't leave messages just like any other contest. Don't have your call screening services turned on. And I hope you win. All right. We're going to take a break. We'll come back and talk a bit more about what's going down, how it's playing out in Wisconsin, Francesca Hong. Unless there is some kind of magical miracle late night ballot dump in Milwaukee for David Crowley and all for David Crowley, it's hard to see how she loses. So what happens then? All right. We'll take a quick break in the Vicki McKenna show. Welcome back to the program. It's the Vicki McKenna show. So real quickly, before we jump into socialism, politics, what's going on in not just Wisconsin, but across the country with the rise of the radicals. In Wisconsin.

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Here's what would have to happen for David Crowley to pull this off, to beat Francesca Hong. She has a 96% chance of winning, according to both Polly Markets and Kalshi. By the way, if she wins, that puts Tom Tiffany in a 75% likelihood of winning the governor's race, which is why the Democrats are freaking out and why you are going to see. something that looks like shenanigans today, I believe. But if all the leaners in all of the polling and the most accurate polling is always the Marquette University Law School poll, if all the leaners, lean Hong, lean Barnes, lean Crowley, if all of them all vote for Crowley, he's still going to lose to Francesca Hong. If all the leaners for everybody else vote for Crowley, He's still five points behind her. If all the leaners vote for Crowley and there's a big midnight Milwaukee ballot dump, you know, the fix is in. Shenanigans are on the way. Anyway, they're not. The Democrats are not happy about this. They're actually not happy that the DSA is on the rise. I've got John Schweppey standing by to talk about sort of generally speaking the situation that the Democrats are facing. But here's the thing. By the way, American Principles Project, it's great to have you on the program. Thank you very much for joining me. There's probably nothing they can do about it, John, and they're going to win. Now, they're not going to win everything. But they're going to win. At some point, they're winning races. They're going to pick off a congressional race. They'll pick off a governor's seat. They'll pick it. They'll pick something important off. And the Democrats aren't going to fight back. It's not like they're going to say, no, you're crazy for wanting to abolish the Senate. They're just going to find ways to get themselves in line with it. No, that's totally correct. And this Sunday, you know, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was on one of the Sunday shows and made a joke about, you know, woke one was crazy. And the implication there is that we're into Woke 2, right? And I think Woke 2 and the DSA are the same thing. Basically what's happened is these were a bunch of crazy activists who learned politics and have figured out like, oh, we can do this. We just have to lie more and not tell the truth about what we actually believe. And so now you have, I think, some really scary folks who are going to be. put in positions where they can actually achieve power. We already have Zohran Mamdani in New York. And, you know, while I know Tiffany would be favored in that matchup, we understand you can't take these people, treat them like a joke. I mean, the reality is that Governor Hong is a scary thing.

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Oh, that's 100% true. If she wins and she's likely to win, then all the negatives go away. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez isn't coming out and saying, you know, trying to make an oblique joke about Francesca Hong by essentially saying telegraphing, she's woke too. Or Bernie Sanders isn't going to pretend like he doesn't know or even though his Our Revolution Pack is the structure behind her campaign. Our Revolution has endorsed Francesca Hong, for heaven's sakes. That's Bernie Sanders organization. Everybody, Elizabeth Warren's going to make a comment. Tammy Baldwin will come out and endorse Francesca Hong, even though she stayed quiet in the primary. And you will see the media close ranks. That's my worry. That's what they did for Zohran Mamdani. And who would have ever thought that a Islamist apologist would be elected mayor of New York on the 25th anniversary of 9-11? Going into the 25th anniversary of 9-11, and yet here we are. Yeah, no, the Democratic Party, the thing they care about the most is power. The reality is like they might have disagreements as to taking an incremental approach to full socialism or just going full bore socialism right away. But they all want the same thing. And I think we recognize that that's the danger here, you know, whether it's someone like Hong who has been very transparent about what she believes or, you know, it's somebody like James Talarico who's hiding it. And these, they're all the same. And I think for Republicans, they have to recognize, you know, we have to take this seriously. Maybe not everyone's happy with, you know, every aspect of this administration or whether we've been, you know, successful enough in the first two years. But seeing these, you know, democratic, so-called democratic socialists coming down the pike, I mean, this is existential. Like, you have to go vote. So look at James Talarico in Texas. You know, Wisconsin's purple. Texas is red. And the Democrats put up a lunatic leftist. But he's not being presented as a lunatic leftist. And Ken Paxton's taking on water. I mean, we're seeing polls that are close in Texas. It's almost like that just can't be real. But it seems like that's the reality on the ground that James Talarico, for all his insane woke 2.0 socialist-leaning, creepy, pervy, petto stuff. is poised to potentially, in a wave year, pick off that seat. Yeah, and that's why, you know, it's going to have to be a priority. That's why, you know, American Principles Project is investing considerably there. You know, Ken Paxton has scandals, unfortunately, which, of course, is going to be part of this. But he's also, you know, a great conservative and would be a phenomenal senator worth electing. So, you know, it's definitely going to be, look, across the country, we've seen this. Andy Beshear in Kentucky, acts like he's this conservative Democrat. Whenever it comes down to the trans issues, abortion, all these things, they always show their radical nature. And so I think we just have to recognize they're all Democratic Socialists now. DSA has complete control of that party. They're going to take over the nomination process in 2008, probably nominate Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. And so we have to be prepared for that. And it can't just be shrieking about socialism. It has to be showing what they actually believe because when folks find out...

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you know, Francesca Hong, for example, thinks that Thanksgiving should be canceled because it's, you know, too American friendly or whatever. That's the type of thing where it's like, okay, we can't vote these lunatics into office. Well, except that you have to know that. And so that's on us. So this is actually helpful that the Democrats said all the Apo on her, that most of the appo that's coming out on Francesca Hong, putting a porn star on the payroll, wanting to legalize prostitution, hating on Thanksgiving, Valentine's Day, 4th of July and Christmas, and Christmas, you know, and wanting a 17% tax rate, wanting, you know, government groceries, stores, rent controls, I mean, the laundry list. But again, it's short attention span. Most of the people paying attention right now are the Democrats, not the Republicans, unless you're listening to talk radio. And most people aren't plugged in on politics until we get to crunch time in election. That means October, November. And so, you know, who knows what they can do to reform her like they did Tammy Baldwin, which allowed the most left-wing member of the United States Congress to beat the most popular person in Wisconsin, which was Tommy G. Thompson. She beat the most popular politician ever to serve in Wisconsin. And she did it because the media ran interference for her. And that's my concern about James Talarico in Texas. It's my concern about the reformation of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the reformation of Bernie Sanders. I mean, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is being quoted as being like a rational Democrat. She endorsed Zohran Mamdani. You've got to be kidding me. And so this is not only do we have to actually explain what this means, but we also have to have answers. to what they're working on right now. What they're tweaking people on is affordability. And we don't have sort of one single songbook on the issue of affordability. Tom Tiffany's got great ideas on affordability. The ideas are not being promoted by Ken Paxton in Texas. I mean, why aren't we working from one sort of general outline and model on affordability on housing, on health care, on energy? Those three pillars are easy. for conservative principles to answer? No, I completely agree with you. I mean, part of the problem is conservatives, people on the right tend to be more free thinkers. And so we disagree on all sorts of different things. There's conservatives, there's populists, there's neocons. And folks need to understand. Like, the Democrats aren't like that. They are the board. You know, ultimately, they don't countersignal each other. They agree with each other. And if any, by the way, the second one of them steps out a line, a John Sutterman or a, you know, in the past mansion or cinema, they're going to primary them announced them, right? They have this real control over message. And so I think what's going to be critical is... The affordability thing from the Democrats, their messaging, is largely affordability isn't a hoax, but what they're saying is. You know, Zohran Mamdani's in New York right now talking about state-owned grocery stores and how he's going to lower prices. All he's doing is just subsidizing it and passing it off to the taxpayers. So people are still paying for it. They're just, you know, giving it for free.

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They'll run the private grocery stores out of New York. That's another thing that's going to happen is you're going to see less in the way of availability. As I'm thinking, and you just said this, they will primary people. And it has happened before. And I know this is ancient history. You roll back to the daily cause net roots nation stuff back in the beginning of the Obama administration. When you add to that Barack Obama and Harold Icky's catalyst, get out the vote, micro-targeting operation, the Democrats understood that if they could jack the base, that's all, and they could maximize turnout there. then they didn't need to have broad messaging. Then they could indulge socialism and they could, you know, play around with things like abortion to the last moment of birth. And they could overwhelm the system that way. And they did it. They have never stopped. Now, you've got the DSA. That's the natural progression of all of this. But at the same time, they still have structures in place that allow them to activate the hard left base and get out the vote during election time. Yeah, they have a powerful, powerful movement. And we, you know, the other thing is that, as you know, Vicky, with the president, we swapped out. There was a coalition shift, right? A lot of these highly educated voters who used to vote Republican shifted over to the Democrats. And we got the working class. you know, even in some cases minority folks. And the one issue we have now is just structural. A lot of the folks we traded in for are awesome when they show up, but they don't show up as often. And so it's really going to be on us, not just to attack the Democrats, although I think that's really important, but to gin up excitement among our base. Like, what are we voting for? How are we going to fix the affordability crisis? How do we contrast ourselves with the Democrats and some of these really critical issues? You know, in Texas with James Talarico, the trans issue, he is a trans zealot. He is out there talking about how much he loves your children and basically wants to trans them. Voters have to hear about that. They have to know like this is somebody who you actually cannot trust with power. And I think it's going to be on groups like us, but it's going to be on activists. We've got to knock on doors. We've got to make calls. We can't just accept, oh, the midterms are going to be a loss. It's on us to prevent the DSA wave from being, frankly, insurmountable. Yeah, and it could be if we don't, if, you know, we fight and say, we shouldn't talk about cultural issues. Let's only talk about economic issues. No, let's not talk about economic issues. Let's only talk about cultural issues. That's what we like to do. We like to turn ourselves into pretzels or we'll say, oh, my goodness, the baggage that Ken Paxton has. Are you kidding me? Take a look at the baggage that James Talarico has. You have to understand. I mean, our people don't get that these are binary decisions. Our people don't get that.

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that it isn't just a presidential race. I mean, we have 400,000 people in Wisconsin who only voted in the presidential election. And that's all they're interested in voting in. So they don't know what's going on with the governor's race. They're not plugged into what's going on with the state house races. They're not even that plugged in what's going on with congressional races, but they were very, very motivated to vote for Trump. That doesn't mean you can count on them going forward into, you know, in the next general election cycle in Wisconsin. So, you know, hopefully. I say hopefully, my goodness. I mean, I hope I can do more than just say hopefully. The Republicans have understood that we do have something of a get out the vote structural issue to deal with here. I think so. But, you know, ultimately that's a resource game. It's numbers, right? And so, you know, we're going to have to pour our, you know, time and treasure into this. And this time around, you know, I think it's about. I don't want to predict what's going to happen with Congress, but I think in a lot of ways it's about mitigating losses. But as we head into 2028, I mean, that is going to be the game, the ballgame, right? If Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez becomes president of the United States, this is a socialist nation, you know, and there's no coming back from it. Democrats are not going to let that happen. And so I think it's time to get ginned up. You know, I have a lot of things I wish the president had done in these two years. I still think there's a lot we can do. But being disappointed is not an excuse for not showing up and not doing the hard work right now. You know what else is really dumb? What else is really dumb is having people decide to attack each other because one person likes JD Vance and another person likes Marco Rubio. That's really ridiculous. That's really dumb. But I see that already. Or burritos. Burritos. Okay. The dumb, the world's dumbest online argument was the argument on the right over the price of a burrito. Truly, people, I'm not even going to spend time talking about that. You should all look that one up if you, you know, question whether my declaration of the world's dumbest argument is accurate. Go look that one up. You just put it into grok or chat GPT. It'll tell you what it's all about. John Schweppie, thank you very much for joining me today. Thank you. And we will take a break on the Bickey McKenna show. Welcome back to the program. It's the Vicki McKenna Show. I have Sean Carney from 40 Days for Live standing by to talk about a few different things, not the least of which is Massachusetts becoming the 10th state that has decided to permit abortion up until the very last moment of pregnancy, right up until birth. The 10th, if you had Washington, D.C., we now have 11 jurisdictions that permit that. And it's almost as if no one knows how to fight back anymore. Sean, that's my question for you. I'm going to tell you, I believe that if tomorrow there were a constitutional amendment, which is supported by Francesca Hong, by the way, that would create the right of an abortion. which would, of course, allow it just like Massachusetts does to be up until the moment of birth. I think it would pass. I think it would pass. And that is because I think the Republicans have decided they don't want to deal with the issue any longer and notice what's going on. Democrats do want to deal with it. Well.

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The only thing, the only reason I would say that's not accurate is because that's essentially what Kamala Harris ran on in 2024 and she got creamed. And so the abortion till births. Is it shocking Massachusetts did this hell off, but they already had it. I mean, it's not like the craziest thing in the world. It's one of the most liberal states. They're probably way behind the times when it comes to California. Yeah, but Sean, they're not running on it. Democrats like Francesca Hong are calling it the right of women to make decisions between themselves and their doctors. That's how it got passed in Massachusetts. They weren't advertising it was going to be abortion until birth or it would have failed. You're right. Yeah, and that's the key is the messaging. And so, Kamala Harris's messaging was so horrible, which is, hey, guys, we're going to do abortions at the DNC. Isn't that cool? And everybody's looking around going, I don't think this is the approach we should take. But, yeah, bro. But it's one of those things where it is in the messaging. You saw places like Michigan, which has a horrible abortion law and trying in their constitution. And, you know, the messaging was just. Brilliant. Unfortunately, on the other side, you would have thought women were just dying in the streets. And so this is twofold. This is awful, obviously. So they're now celebrating that they can kill a baby the day of birth. Okay. So they're celebrating that. It also has the knee-jerk reaction of, I thought, you know, one of the things that Trump did well when he was running against Hillary is he ripped off a line that the pro-life movement used a lot, which is under Roe, the U.S. has the same abortion laws as North Korea, Canada, and China. It was a very small group of countries that allowed abortions through birth. And that really worked for him. Because people were like, oh, I didn't know that. Well, maybe Roe did have to go. Even Bill Maher said that. I didn't know it allowed until birth. Like, what's wrong with us? We're like North Korea. And these kind of things that happened in Massachusetts, they do wake people up as far as abortion numbers and everything. We'll see how it impacts, you know, the state of Massachusetts. But the idea that you can go in and, you know, be visibly showing and have an abortion overall. still makes most people uncomfortable. Yeah, well, that's what you're going to have to do now. What you're going to have to do is you're going to have to show images of that. You're going to have to show images of that. You're going to have to shock people back into consciousness because, again, the Republicans, and this is true in Wisconsin, oh, no, the Republicans don't want to touch the issue of abortion in the last Supreme Court race. That was a worry in the Supreme Court race before that. That was a worry. Oh, Sean, in the Supreme Court race before that one. We have Republicans that don't want to touch it with a 10-foot poll. They want to either offload it to a constitutional referendum. And again, if they do, if this is a constitutional referendum on the right.

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of women to make decisions on their health care, which is exactly how a Democrat-controlled legislature would word the question. It will pass. Now, my question is, does it make sense to try to get a federal restriction, you know, even if it's not exactly what the prohibitionists or the abolitionists want? I don't think so because then you refuse to acknowledge that it's already in there in the 14th Amendment that we're all created equal under the law. And so because that ship has failed that we know life begins at conception and our medical textbooks say that it begins at conception, it's already there. We simply have to acknowledge it, which is what Clarence Thomas was arguing when they overturned Roe. And so that to me, you know, the federal ban, which is the word they would use. or the federal freeing of women, you know, however you want to word it. I don't know. I don't know in this given climate how that would go. I could see it going either way. It would depend on the messaging. But the reality is that if it's a human being, the conversation's over and you're protected under the 14th Amendment. And that's the ultimate argument, which is we don't have to acknowledge that unborn babies or babies. We already do that. Well, here's the thing. He's on death row. If we don't. If we don't, then by the way, you will see the laws change on attacking pregnant women and the victim also being considered the unborn child. But you will also see the issue of personhood start to afflict just about every decision. You'll see it in assisted suicide laws. You'll see it in the demands for socialized medicine. It is the beginning. If we permit this. the declaration, the scientific declaration that life begins at conception to be manipulated, ameliorated, or somehow otherwise ignored, then we are headed toward where Canada is right now. And that is a very, very dire place. See, so I would have said yes to you 15 years ago. The problem is this is why abortion messes with people. It's unlike any other issue. What you're saying is 100% accurate in late 1998 after Clinton did the partial birth abortion and got rid of the ban. and implemented partial birth abortion where we had the little cartoon graphic of how they kill the baby. And everybody's like, what? That's where you're right. And you're like, that's it. Rose is going to be solidified. Then you have useless John Roberts get on the court as a huge disappointment. And then we get Obama and you're just like, no, no, no, we're going to be Canada. We're going to be a better Canada version than even the Canadians. And it just goes off a cliff. And that just didn't happen.

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We are more pro-life today than we ever have been, which is why we get these knee-jerk reactions like we have in Massachusetts. So it's just – it's not a predictable issue because with time, abortion doesn't age well, which is why Gen Z is so, you know, more pro-life than any previous generation at their age. It just – we can see into the womb. And the further we get away from Dobbs, the more bullish I am, to be honest, because – It's just going to become normalized. We're always going to have useless Republicans and we've got to replace them. And, you know, that's always going to be part of it. But overall, it's just hard to come off the overturning of Roe and the historic defunding of Planned Parenthood, even though it was for only a year. It was devastating to them and just say that we're headed towards Canada. Well, but I actually do think we are. And that is because to not be, you need to have those normal Republicans who are willing to actually step out and talk about it. And we don't have normal Republicans anymore. We have Republicans constantly reacting to whatever it's going on in social media or reacting to whatever the media is demanding they react to vis-a-vis Trump. That's what we have. And that's the foreseeable future. So the Republicans don't act like they used to. Otherwise, I'd say, yeah, you know, we got some time. I don't know if we have time, Sean. We've got the rise of the socialists. Right now they're not super popular. They're freaking out in Wisconsin. But I guarantee you if Francesca Hong wins this primary, the media will close rank. The Democrats will close ranks. The get out the vote operations will be in full swing. The ballot dumps will be coming at midnight on election night, November 3rd. It will be as if she's just a normal Democrat. Now, we might still win, but the idea that, you know, over, that this one election, if we reject most of the socialists, will be the end of the DSA, the end of the rise of socialism, I think is wrong. And if that's our future, because that's what we're teaching in K-12 public education, you know, I'm not sure if we're ever going back to a time where we can just maybe it's sometime expect the Republicans to start acting like Republicans again. Yeah, well, and I think what you're saying, what I would agree with is the left imploding is covering up a multitude of sins of the Republicans. They're just looking good without putting out any real effort because the left has decided to go communist on us once again. And so I think that's hiding a lot. It's not that the Republicans are strong. It's that they're just less nuts. But that's not sustainable. Right. It's not sustainable. And the culture war, this is the culture war. We're losing the culture war, even though we're winning the culture war. In the court of public opinion, we're winning the culture war. But when it comes to demanding that conditions on the ground change. We're satisfied with an executive order that isn't followed. We're satisfied with, you know, a threat from DOJ that doesn't even register. We're satisfied with that, okay, move on next. The Democrats understand that the culture war is where they're ultimately going to be universally victorious. Notice that it's just mouth, it's just mouth service to affordability, right? Where do they really want to plant their flag?

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trans politics, sexual politics, the death cult of abortion. That's really where their bread and butter is of power and control. And so the affordability issue is just, it's just the mouthing off about things that you know Americans care about. What they really care about are the things that we just saw happen in Massachusetts, I think. I agree with you. I think that's good for us. I think that they need to plant their flag in late-term abortion and trans. Those have both proven to be political losers. That handed us Trump. And, you know, look at how ineffective Biden was. He dove into the culture where he did nothing. kept the Trump tax cuts, thankfully for all of us. You know, he didn't redo the tax code. He didn't redo health care. He was a dismal failure if you're a Democrat because he focused on the culture war. And, you know, the pro-abortion, pro-trans, it's just not popular. And you even look at how Pride Month has imploded over the last. two or three years especially, people are just over it. You know, you have Starbucks not requiring their stores to do anything. You have Target moving their gay displays to the back of the store. And so, you know, I think culturally, we're not as bad as I think you think we are because of some of the recent victories and because I don't think that the messaging of the left has been. remotely mainstream whatsoever. I would like you to be right. I would like to be wrong about this. I would. I would like my glass to be half full for a change. Sean Carney, 40 Days for Life. Thank you so much for jumping on the program today. Good to have you. Always. Thank you. And we will take a break. All right, folks. Well, polls are open. So if you are not of a mind to vote in the Democratic primary, you do have choices. There's a hot secretary of state race on the Republican side. We also have a race for the lieutenant governor's race. It's not, I mean, Will Martin has gotten the endorsement, but David Varnham is also in that race. We have Tom Tiffany does have an opponent. And if you have Republicans who are competitive in assembly races or Senate races, how do you find out? Go to myvote.w.I.gov. my vote.wI.gov and click on what's on my ballot. What's on my ballot? I mean, polls will be light today. So, you know, just swing on in. You will be a, find your polling location is also at myvote.wI.gov. Easy to do this. It will take you. no more than 10 minutes. And that would include probably parking, figuring out what room you're supposed to go into and getting registered and getting your ballot. I mean, the actual marking of the ballot is so simple. It's a partisan primary, right? You only vote for one party. And yeah. And so.

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there are some competitive races, particularly in some of the out counties on sheriff. All right. One last thing before we close out, and that is there is a race in District 7. This is to replace Tom Tiffany, because Tom Tiffany is running for governor. And there are four candidates vying in the Republican primary. And I'm talking about this race because none of us can vote in this race. Is Warsaw Marathon County, that kind of area? What's going on in that race are the two main Republican candidates are being attacked by an out-of-state, never-Trump PAC on behalf of a third candidate. Let me say that again. A moneyed person, I'm not going to name names here, but someone with Doe in Wisconsin is using an out-of-state pack that is typically associated with never-Trump messaging. to attack the two main Republicans. That's what we do really, really well. That's what we do really, really well. That's why not having a super competitive Republican primary in the governor's race is excellent. Because if there were a super competitive primary in the governor's race on the GOP side, we'd be attacking each other. We would be sullying and damaging the candidates.

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on behalf of a primary. Let me tell you the last time that happened. Well, that would have been when Tim Michaels was running. And the time before that, that was the last Supreme Court race. And the time before that, that was the last Supreme Court race. We've been doing this since Tommy Thompson and Eric Hovedy and Mark Newman vied for the Senate nomination. which eventually became the Tammy Baldwin Senate seat. That's what we do. For the very first time, we actually got the Democrats to do that instead of us. But no, no, no, no. We've got a little example. It's almost like you can't shake it. It's like a bad case of fleas. It's going on in District 7 right now. With on behalf of a Republican candidate, a moneyed donor is using an outside never-Trump group to attack the two leaders in this race. The two leaders are Kevin Hermaning and Michael Alfonso. Stupid. It's stupid. I'm so grateful for what Josh Oman did. He kept it fair game in his criticisms of Tom Tiffany when he was originally in the gubernatorial race. And when he decided to get out, he had not done so much damage that he couldn't join Tiffany on the campaign trail. That's more like how we ought to be thinking about how to run primary campaigns. We'll take a quick break. All right. Welcome back to the program. It's the Vicki McKenna Show. We don't have another chance to win the IHeart Radio music festival contest until 1 o'clock. One o'clock. By the way, we're hearing thunder crashing, which could mean we're going to have brief. They will always be brief power disruptions. But we have a, what do they call? USP, UPS, UPS, universal power system, or whatever it's called. That's the radio station. So we're good. But there may be a hiccup, just letting you know. if that happens. We'll just give us 60 seconds and everything will be fine. So how do we get in Wisconsin to this contingent of leftists? We have a specific path we followed in Wisconsin. There were different paths followed in different states. But in Wisconsin, it was very specific. Wisconsin Democrats started moving left. after Scott Walker was elected. Act 10 radicalized Wisconsin Democrats. It just did. And there's data to prove it. Before Act 10, self-identified moderate and conservative Democrats, comprised 42% of the party. After Act 10, They comprised 30% of the party. Now they are less than 5% of the party. Immediately after Act 10, self-identified liberals rose from 55% of the Democratic Party to 68% of the Democratic Party. And those who identify themselves as very liberal went from 13% to 27%. So those would be the very socialist ones.

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Act 10 radicalized Wisconsin Democrats. There were a couple of Democrats who were in the statehouse. One was Jeff Plaley, RIP, good guy, moderate to conservative Democrat, kind of a labor Democrat, not really an ideological Democrat. They took him out. Democrats primaried him and replaced him with one of the most radical Democrats ever elected Chris Larson, who is still in the Senate. Another guy named Jason Fields was very good on school choice. He was very good on sort of basic kitchen table issues. Jason Fields was taken out and he was replaced by Mandela Barnes. So he got taken out for Mandela Barnes. So that's how it happened in Wisconsin. Act 10. radicalized Democrats in Wisconsin, and they've never turned back. And if you recall, they closed ranks in Milwaukee and Madison. It used to be that conservatives could actually exist, coexist in Madison. Do you remember that? I do. I live there for 23 years. After Act 10, if you had a Scott Walker bumper sticker on your car, If you had made a contribution to a candidate for county board that had made a contribution to Rebecca Clayfish or Scott Walker, you were targeted. That happened to a restaurant owner on the north side. He had made a contribution to a county board candidate who supported Scott Walker and Rebecca Clayfish. And so they attacked his restaurant. So they closed ranks. Not only did it radicalize them, but they also closed ranks. And they turned the state of Wisconsin into a necessary requirement for a turnout operation of Madison, Milwaukee. If they can't turn out Madison and Milwaukee on election nights, they can't win. which is why they wanted to draw all that excess capacity in assembly and Senate races, which is why Tony Evers did the maps, blew up, detonated the maps and drew all of the liberals into, you know, somewhat conservative areas and then took a little bit of Milwaukee or took a little bit of Madison and gave it to him so they could win the seat so that they could more likely dominate the assembly in the Senate. Because they had closed ranks after becoming highly radicalized after Act 10. And that's the condition today. What's where we are today? That's how Francesca Hong surged. Because Madison, Milwaukee have become radicalized, particularly Madison, particularly Dane County. She does really well in Milwaukee County. Even though he's the Milwaukee County executive, she does extremely well in Milwaukee County. So. potentially helps us this time around, but it's been hurting us for several election cycles. And it potentially hurts us in the assembly, particularly the assembly. So, but that's how it happened. They used Act 10 as an excuse to get rid of moderates, conservatives, pro-life Democrats. You know those used to exist, pro-life Democrats. Pro-tax cut Democrats used to exist.

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They took the opportunity. And this was the rise of NetRutes Nation. This was the rise of the, you know, the leftists, the hard progressives that wanted to kick people like Zell Miller out and, you know, and other moderate Democrats. So they've been by people like that. It was at the same time that was happening. So it seemed particularly because Barack Obama. was enthusiastically helping with the process using a micro-targeting operation that never required anybody have a broad appeal message again. So anyway, if you wanted to know, these conditions can change. I suppose. I mean, they changed once. Can they change again? I guess they can. The thing that the Republicans ought to avoid doing, though, is following in their footsteps to suggest that just because it seems like, The crazies are dominant in the Democratic Party that we have to find a way to meet them where they are. That's not necessary. They're crazy because they're throwing up crazy candidates. They're crazy because they only have to talk to a couple of different places in the state of Wisconsin, Milwaukee and Madison. That's why they sound crazy because they are. They're talking to crazy people. That's where crazy went and locked itself down. Madison and Milwaukee were the two places in Wisconsin that were hardcore unmasked. And literal lockdowns Madison and Milwaukee. All right. We're going to take a quick break. Paula Scanlan's going to join me in just a moment. Let's talk about the absolutely delicious troll that some men are making in the WNBA. We'll be right back. Welcome back to the program is the Vicki McKenna Show.

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And I've talked about this before, regardless of public opinion, regardless of, you know, the Trump administration, the excellent work that's being done by the Department of Education, the Department of Justice, vis-a-vis, you know, protecting girls in sports, protecting girls' private spaces. The left isn't stopping. Now, I mean, it's unpopular in the United States. People want to see only women, biological women in women's sports. Corporate America, at least, is backed off a bit on it. But we don't have compliance because it is importantly political and ideological. And so we've got this thing that's going on right now. When it's paying attention to the WNBA. They never paid attention to the WNBA until Caitlin Clark. And then they didn't pay attention. They stopped paying attention to Caitlin Clark until Sophie Cunningham. And so now people are paying attention to the WNBA. And the WNBA has now famously said, you do, you do not have to be a biological woman to play. Paula Scanlon's standing by who has battled the trans issue in women's sports. She joins me on the program to talk about this. The WNBA just may be required to put its money where its mouth is, Paula, and I'm here for it. I can't get enough of Ennis Cantor. And who's the other guy? Royce White. I can't get enough of these guys saying they're going to apply for the WNBA draft. You know, this entire situation has just been so ridiculous and absurd that. it's almost deserving to match with all their absurdities. And the fact that WMBA made an announcement saying they're going to be meeting to talk about it, we don't need extensive meetings going on here. We just say, oh my gosh, we know what the W of WMBA means, and it's adult human females, women. We don't need to have meetings. We don't need to hire a biologist. But that is what they need to do. And so I am very curious what they come out with. I really think. I have a feeling they might not go all right. More than any other sport, the WNBA didn't exist for women's sports. The WNBA existed for gender politics. The WNBA exists for gender politics. It's not there for women and sports. It's there for gender politics, which is why they're meeting to have a conversation. Because they were going to commit to this. They were going to let men play until men like Royce White or Ennis Cantor Freedom said, you know what? We think we want to play until Clay Travis said, I will spend $10 million and I will draft a team entirely of trans women, former NBA stars. All of a sudden now, you've got the women of the WNBA trying to figure out how to protect their political turf. I don't even think this is about protecting women. I think it's about protecting political turf. It absolutely is. And the reason that we're in this situation, too, is that we have such cowards leading the WNB. I mean, I think the biggest solution to all of this is overhaul, get rid of all their leadership, and put in a leader that actually can lead. I mean, it's just so sad to me, and we can laugh at the situation all we want, and there are hilarious parts to it. But it is sad to me that we think about young girls that are going to be looking at this situation that have dreams of playing professional basketball, and they're going to see this clown show of a league.

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That's only in a situation because their leadership is so bad and they have no backbone and they're cowards, they can't simply say that they admit and admit that they know what the W of WMBA means. We all know it should mean, and that's the situation that we're in. Here's the problem. We're at risk of having people think all women's sports are a joke. All women's sports are a punchline. I've seen it. I've seen people say, fine, let the guys, you know, let the guys swim. I mean, you knew what happened when the guys swam when you were a division one swimmer. There were men in the locker room. Oh, just fine, let it ruin women's sports. Well, why would we do that? Why after fighting so hard for women's sports would people just say, ah, well, make it a punchline like this? Now, I don't think Royce White and Ennis Cantor are making the WNBA a punchline. I think they're making the WNBA commit to women. As funny as it is, I do think that that is their broader goal here, because this is certainly activism, but I think it's activism on behalf of good principle. But we are, seriously, the more. N-C-A-A, the more high school sports digs in on this garbage, the more likely it becomes that women's sports entirely goes away. And what would happen? You had a scholarship, right, because of women's sports. What would happen if women's sports went away? Yeah, exactly right. Your studies that show that the vast majority of women that make it in the corporate world into a C-suite position played a sport. I mean, sports are really everything. I can speak to how much it did for me as a young kid. I had dyslexia and I really struggled in school. And guess what? Sports were somewhere where I could be equal and even to my peers and help me gain confidence. And yeah, exactly that. When I entered this fight, that is what I thought about. The young girls that are going to lose opportunities. It's not about becoming an Olympian or professional basketball player because, yes, there are people that do that and they deserve rights. This is about, again, the next generation of female athletes that depend on women's sports to build confidence, to gain them opportunities in lives, and just to be part of something fun. That's what sports is about, and it should have never become political, and we all know the truth. And that's what's so shocking to me about all of this is privately, if we go and speak to every person at the WMBA, Yes, there's going to be a few girls who are outliers that have radical left-leaning opinions. You always find that. But I think the majority of them know in their heart that they are a woman, they know what a woman is, and they know that they do not want to compete against men, but they're never willing to say that out loud. And that's also why we're in the situation that we're in. Everyone really agrees, but no one's willing to say it and put it on the line and speak out like Sophie Cunningham did. Well, here's the other thing. WMBA is going to go away. If this continues, if they don't put their foot on and they don't define the W as biological female, XX, if they don't do that, then WNBA is going to go away. The WNBA is underwritten by the NBA. The NBA is not going to underwrite a retirement league for ex-NBA players in Wigs. They're not going to do it. There's no upside to doing that.

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You know, maybe somebody wants to, you know, create a goofball like banana ball league like they do in baseball. But that's not something the NBA is going to be interested in underwriting. And by the way, there isn't a whole cottage industry of sports broadcasting that pays attention to women's sports, particularly the WNBA. All those women are going to be out of jobs. Sorry. Pack your bags, go back to local TV media, because you're going to be out of your national sports job. And you're not going to get those jobs in local TV media because those are going away. And so that's what's going to happen here. And what I'm hoping for is these two men are able to shake some sense into these dingbat politicians who are acting like they're running a league because they're not. Because they're not. And so, by the way, it's fun. It is fun. You got to admit. To hear Royce White describe the reason why he had a fear of flying is because he had a transgender woman trapped inside him. I was in tears, Paula. I seriously was in tears because he's famously afraid of flying. And he said, well, it's because a transgender woman trapped inside me this whole time. You have to make it the absurd thing that it is. And I'm glad to see some men finally stepping up and being willing to be part of this fight in ways they're very, very forward facing. Yeah, you know, exactly that. I think we need everyone really on board with just pointing out how ridiculous this entire situation really is. And I think it's where we're at. And it's really sad to see because, again, this never should have happened. We shouldn't even be in a situation where we can even laugh about it or feel however we feel about it. Because people who are in leadership positions are just complete cowards. and can't say out loud what every single human being on the earth knows to be true. Men and women are different, and if you're going to have a sports team that has the word W at the beginning of it, we know who belongs in that category and who does it. Maybe you guys will call me a bigot, but Anez and Royce don't belong in that category. And do not fall into that category, but because of this failed leadership, they're allowed to. And that's within the rules, which should point out, again, how utterly ridiculous this entire conversation is. And again, I hope it really wakes some things up. But I'm going to keep tracking the story because, again, they're in extensive meetings about this. I don't understand how you can go back and forth in these meetings. What else is there to say? We know what W means. Why do we need to have a long meeting to talk about it? Well, here's the thing that, and how crazy it got. It started, it starts with.

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your school. It starts with UPenn. It starts with the women's swim team. It starts with Leah Thomas. Next thing you know, you have men in women's prisons. Next thing you know, you have men in women's rape abuse shelters, right? Next thing you know, you have men in women's spaces and women's locker rooms. You have men becoming, you know, corporate leaders and claiming to be women and having that count as women's corporate leadership. All of it. I mean, it's just like you woke up one day, Paula. I did. And suddenly people like coaches and CEOs and HR directors are all pretending that this absurdist fantasy is a reality that can be sustained. And then it, and now it's gotten to the level where we've got to, where you've got to openly mock it like the cartoon that it is at the professional sports level. But I hope this breaks the fever, as they say, you know, nothing has to do with the Indiana fever. I just hope this breaks this, whatever spell this is that has got people thinking they need to be fearful about being called a bigot. You're not a bigot, Paula, for saying women are women. You're just not, okay? And neither am I. And neither is any woman or man on a planet who would actually define biological reality. That's still okay. Yeah, exactly that. And I think the one thing that we need to encourage everyone to just say their mind on this. I think we really did turn a corner in the last several years, right? I can have conversations now with people who identify as Democrats and say that they're left-leaning that agree with me on this. But we really need everyone to come out and say this. So I think if there's one takeaway to end this ridiculousness. Yes, people like Inez and Royce are doing good work by pointing out, again, how insane everything is. But we need everyone to talk about it because the more people that feel comfortable saying, hey, I think this is ridiculous, the sooner we can put an end to it. And I think that's really what this is about because, you know, it is a funny situation, but I'm circling back to the fact that... Young girls depend on us to stand up for them, and they depend on sports and these opportunities. And I want every young girl in this country to have an equal playing field opportunity that involves only playing against other girls. And maybe she someday, you know, becomes a professional athlete or plays in college or whatever that is. But no girl deserves to lose an opportunity for any of this madness. And I think that's really what we have to fight for. I agree. Paula Scanlon. And also, by the way, women's sports, it's constructive competition. Women's sports, all sports, teaches constructive competition. And that is something that if you live in a free market-based kind of economy and culture, you want constructive competition. Thank you so much, Paula Scanlon, for joining me on the program today. Great to have you. Thank you so much. And we will take a break on the Vicki McKenna Show. I'll be right back. All right. Welcome back to the program. It's the Vicki McKenna Show. Ira Melman is standing by from Federation for American Immigration Reform. The issue of immigration is causing some problems for the Democrats. That's a good thing. You've got them very, very worried about cleaning voter rolls. Harmeet Dillon at the Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice just sent all 50 states letters saying that if you're letting illegal aliens and encouraging illegal aliens into your state.

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We're going to go after the people who are doing that. We're going to prosecute you. Sending all the secretaries of state and the people who run the elections that if you're permitting illegal aliens to get identification, to get votes or to vote, we're going to prosecute you. But then you've got the DSA who on secret recording is saying that they are going out of their way to try to get IDs in the hands of illegal aliens. It is all about the vote. It is about the vote. The whole flood the zone was about taking control of power. Ira, welcome to the program. It's good to have you on the program. I hope this means DOJ is getting serious about prosecutions because I think we're going to have to put some people in jail in order to get the message through. It certainly is. And I think after what we saw happened in New Jersey, where they discovered, oops, we got 6,600 people who are in the voting rolls who should not be because they're not citizens in the United States. And, you know, that they claim it's some kind of computer glitch, you know, maybe a little bit skeptical about that, but whatever it is. This should not be happening, and it is an indication that we need to reform the way we register people to vote, ask people to provide identification when they show up to vote. Because the foundation of our democracy is that people accept the fact that, you know, maybe my candidate lost, but it was a free and fair election, and I'm going to have to live with it. Once people lose confidence that it's free and fair, Then the whole underpinning of our system of government, not slowly, it just crumbles underneath us, and we're going to see all kinds of division in this society, even more than we already have now. I agree with you on that. And we've already seen confidence and voter integrity plummet because nothing's ever done. You see ballots being stuffed. You see what's going on of the ballot mill operation in Muskegon, Michigan. And nobody gets prosecuted for that. The police turn a blind eye. Here's James Talarico. The darling leftist candidate in Texas is saying, oh, yeah, I harbored it illegally. And for heaven's sake, so did Gavin Newsom basically say the same thing. And nothing ever happens. And so you, you know, you see what goes down. And the shenanigans that are on the ground, especially when it comes to election time, nothing happens. What does that do to the person who thinks that, you know, their votes going to be canceled out by one or two or five people who shouldn't be casting votes in the first place? Yeah, as I said, people lose confidence in the outcome of our elections, and that is not a good thing. But while, you know, you're pointing fingers at the DSA, we also should be pointing fingers at the Republicans. The Save America Act is out there. It has been introduced in Congress. They can't even seem to get a vote on it. You know, it probably wouldn't pass in the Senate. You need 60 votes.

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But at least they could put pressure on the Democrats to explain why they wouldn't want people, you know, showing identification when they show up to vote, making sure that only citizens vote. That's the sort of thing that doesn't play well with voters of either party. So, you know, there's no reason why the Republicans should be going off on vacation rather than dealing with a very, very important issue. I completely agree with you. The Republicans don't want to take this vote. I mean, I think a lot of them do want to take this vote. I think a lot of them recognize that this is a no-brainer because it's an 80% issue. You can do an 80% issue. Here's why they don't want to do it. They don't want to work. In order to do this, they would have to do a talking filibuster. By the way, that's the plan because apparently nobody wants to just vote to get rid of the stupid 60 vote cloture rule. The plan is to make the Democrats do those endless amendments. Oh, well, then the Democrats would just offer endless amendments. Correct. They would be forced to work. The Democrats would, the idea is to fatigue them into finally allowing the vote to go forward. That's the plan on this. That's Mike Lee's plan. It's Ron Johnson's plan. It's Rick Scott's plan. It's the general plan. Nobody wants to stay in work. You know, it's a tough job, Ira. It's a tough job knocking back that 174 a year and having extended vacations that go on for a month. I don't. think I've ever had an extended vacation that's gone on for a month since I turned 18 years old. But that's what's going on. And then on top of that, you mentioned the Republicans and you're right. Democrats don't get all the blame here. You've got the state of Ohio. So we have now got an affirmative court case that says, no, temporary protected status means temporary. And the state of Ohio, the Republican governor of the state of Ohio is saying, no, we want to keep the Haitians. We need to keep the Haitians who have been on protected temporary protected status for the last 21 years. Let's not get rid of the Haitians. And you know, you're sitting there going, dude, can we possibly, you know, step on more rakes in the field? Yeah, look, I mean, I think the motivation there is you have the cheap labor business interests that want to keep this cheap labor. You know, all Ohio taxpayers end up paying for it, you know, they have to provide the education, the health care, all the other things that people need while they're in the state of Ohio. But as long as they get their cut rate worker, they're really happy. And, you know, Governor Mike DeWine seems to be affiliated with that wing of the Republican Party. And that's been an issue for a long time. time. Again, we point a lot of fingers of the Democrats, and they deserve all those fingers pointed at them. But for many, many years, you had sort of the Wall Street wing of the Republican Party that was more than happy to exploit low-wage foreign workers and pass the costs along to everybody else, as though, you know, somehow we were getting something on the cheap.

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uh... you know so yeah you know maybe we all save a nickel when we go into a coffee shop and have a cup of coffee because there's an illegal alien working in the back But as taxpayers, we're probably paying an extra quarter to educate that guy's kids to provide the health care, to provide all sorts of things that those families need. Oh my gosh. We are underwriting, you know, for every nickel you're saving because somebody decided that the right thing to do is have cheap exploitive labor, which, by the way, drives down wages for everyone. If you raise wages at the low end, you raise wages for everyone. If you drive down wages at the low end, you drive down wages for everyone. You know, I'm listening to Mike Rowe talk about all of these jobs, construction jobs or 400,000 construction jobs. Construction used to pay extremely well. And then we decided to import the third world to become the construction workers and the wages fell. And so now you're wondering, well, geez, one of the things you might want to do is you might want to try to figure out ways to get wages up. And yes, we're going to pay a little bit more on the front end for that. We're going to save trillions on the back end in our country in the process. Yeah, as you pointed out, it affects everybody. Obviously, the foreign workers who are being exploited, you know, they're better off here even, you know, these low wages relative to what we would accept here in the United States. But it affects everybody else who work in similar industries. You know, they are forced to compete by either accepting lower wages or lower wages. working conditions or going out and doing something else or going on in welfare entirely. So it just has this cascading effect where one bad thing leads to another. And before you know it, you know, we've got $39 trillion in debt. Indeed. I don't know if you happen to catch this, Ira. So we should talk about some positives. It's positive what Harmie Dillon is doing. Okay? That's positive. It's positive that we're seeing the 400 voters prosecuted. It's positive that we're seeing threats to, you know, to criminally prosecute people who deliberately allow and induce legal aliens into their states, right? That's all positive. It's positive. It's positive to see TPS canceled. It's positive. And so, you know, it does, in the point, when you, and I'm just looking at Catholic charities. I didn't look at Lutheran social services because it didn't pop up on X, but I'm sure the same is true. 82% of their migrant reset, well, actually 82% of their entire budget was federal contracts for migrant resettlement. It's gone. It's all gone. That was what the NGO industrial complex has been detonated. And that is, we're not even going to realize how positive that is for years to come. But just knowing that, that it is much more difficult to create the gravy train through the, you know, through central America into the United States is huge.

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Yeah, and, you know, obviously what we're seeing now as a result of the administration that has to be in power. Come January 2029, who knows who will be in office, they might decide to restart this again. You know, everybody line up with your handout. We, you know, we'll pay you to bring in people to the United States, get them resettled, and then send the tab to the American taxpayers for the housing or all the social services that are needed. So, yeah, I mean, we're in a position now where we're in a relatively good position where the administration is actually enforcing the law and doing rational things. But, you know, unless we pass firm legislation like HR2 that prevents future administrations to going back to what we saw happen in this country under the Biden administration, that could easily. start up again the minute, you know, the next president says, so help me God. And, you know, I'll believe if a Democratic president is sworn in on January 20th, 2029, that's exactly what's going to happen. I don't disagree with you. And, you know, what if it's President Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, right? What if, think about it, she's actually going to run for president. What if it's President Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez? What if it's any Democrat? Because right now, every single one of them are leftists. It's not like we're going to find one that's, that was like Bill Clinton was on illegal immigration. That's not going to happen. But, you know, it does, it bears in mind. probably take some stock of some of the successes that's going on. One thing that we don't seem to be doing well on, and that is inducing these prosecutors that have been elected through an activist process, either through the Soros organization or other organizations, we don't seem to have successfully been able to get criminal illegal aliens prosecuted. The only thing we can really rely on is ICE coming in and identifying them, getting them out, because they're still being turned out into the streets. Yeah, and you've got states that are just doubling down on this. You know, just about a week or so ago, Sheridan Gorman, that poor girl who was shot in the park in Chicago by Nealiglaley and who had been released. She happens to be from New York. You know, they were standing up there begging Kathy Hogle. Please stop doing this. Stop preventing sheriffs and other law enforcement officers from... from cooperating with federal immigration authorities. That, you know, if we don't do this, there are going to be more dead kids like Sheridan Gorman. And yet, you know, the political establishment in these deep blue states simply refuses to act in any kind of rational manner. And I don't understand that I really don't, except that they can rely on illegal votes. That's the only thing that makes sense. Kathy Hogle represents an entire state, most of whom do not support, you know, simply allowing illegal aliens to run roughshod and get benefits on the front side as well. The only thing that explains that is flooding the zone with illegal votes. Ira Melman, thank you so much for joining me on the program today. Always great to have you.

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Anytime. Thank you. From Federation for American Immigration Reform, and we will take a break in the Vicki McKenna Show. All right. Everyone is pretty much concluded that Francesca Hong is probably going to win today. I think so. The betting markets think so, the prediction markets think so overwhelmingly. If you type in, you know, a question, if you added up every possibility, every, you know, stray vote, can David Crowley pull this off? You know, none of the AIs are suggesting that it's possible. You've got bad weather. in Milwaukee County and not great weather in Dane County that it doesn't matter as much in Dane County because that's already just sort of the, you know, the drop zone for Francesca Hong. It's where her shock troops are. They're still there, by the way, harassing people, little old ladies as they're driving through downtown Madison. That's what we're going to, we are, that's our candidate that we're going to deal with. Question. Question. And this one should be considered. I'm going to ask Brian Schimming this the next time I talked to him. Although I did shoot him a note and he didn't get back to me. I have a feeling he's kind of busy. Question is, does Democrat Party try to plant, platener Francesca Hong? Because what happened? When she solidified her position as the lead, The prediction market shifted from Democrat to Republican on who wins the governor's race. It didn't just shift a little bit. It just flipped. It inverted. So now Tom Tiffany, then Kelsey, has him 75% likely to win. Polymarkets yesterday had him 62% likely to win. I haven't checked polymarkets today. I check Kelsey today. So now 75% likelihood of Tom Tiffany winning in November, assuming he doesn't screw up, assuming we do GO TV, assuming we do all the things that you're supposed to do to win a campaign. You can't just put your feet up and think that the campaign's going to run itself and the election's going to win itself. But does that suggest that Democrats try to find a way to pull the plug on her? Is there APO that has not been released on her that they could use to drop the hammer and try to force her out of the race? Because that's what Graham Platner, that's what happened to him. He wasn't getting out until he had to get out. Don't put it past him. Really, she is the easiest one to beat. In the late days of the campaign, Republicans were putting up what amounted to advertisements for her, listing her record, being the most progressive member of the Wisconsin Assembly, which, you know, was functionally advertising for people to vote for her. Put that one, just file that one away.

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File that one away if she wins today. And I think she's going to win today. But file that one away. Will they try to plant her Francesca Hong? I don't know. I don't know if all the oppos been dumped. An awful lot of it has. I mean, is there something worse out there than, you know, hating your husband and kid because they're white? I guess she doesn't hate them. but considers their whiteness when she considers their existence? Is there something worse than that? There might be. Anyway, we'll take a break. When we come back, Ron Johnson's going to join me to talk about those Anthony Fauci texts. The text that say he knew that the COVID shot would hurt pregnant women, would cause miscarriages, would interrupt fertility. So we'll talk about that at the 2 o'clock hour. Have a great lunch. Good afternoon and welcome to the program. It's the Vicki McKenna Show. Hey, it's election day. Everybody forget. A lot of you probably didn't bother. Turnout is very low. Looks like turnout so far in Madison's tracking it around 13%. I don't have numbers for Milwaukee. It doesn't look like anybody's reported. on Milwaukee. But turnout is around 13% in Madison. I just received an email from someone in Madison who said that she was working at the polls from 7am until 1 p.m. today counted about 150 ballots over that six hour period and said most were for Francesca Hong. Are you shocked? No. So. She's probably going to be the nominee. I mean, unless they, you know, pull a late night absentee ballot rabbit out of the hat in Milwaukee when everyone's asleep. She is probably going to be the nominee. Fear not, though, all the Democrats are going to support her. So on the campaign trail, Tony Evers and David Crowley, mostly Tony Evers, because he speaks for David Crowley. I guess he wants to be led around by the hand by a white guy. I don't know how that lands in the world of woke. But that's what it looks like. He's, you know, barnstorming the state. He's at state fairies with the, you know, Ichabod Crane as his spokesperson. And it looks like. You know, I mean, David Crowley looks like his intern. He looks like his yes man. He looks like his servant. That's what he looks like. But anyway, Crowley and Ivers were outgriping about how, you know, crazy she was and lunatic socialist ideas. And what did David Crowley say when I asked? Oh, yeah, I'll support her if she's the nominee. Of course you will. This is just how you roll. She's crazy. She's completely bonkers. Oh, but I'll totally support her. Because that's how Democrats roll. So whatever happens today and we'll dive into some of the horse race stuff, making the assumption that Francesca Crowley is the nominee with Bill McCosh, and he's going to join me on the program. We're also going to get with Ron Johnson, though, after the explosive text messages were released from Anthony Fauci. Anthony Fauci, Rochelle Walensky.

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and Vivek Ramaswamy Murthy, who were the Surgeon General, CDC director, and director of the NIH, respectively. They are discussing the damage that is done and the risk to pregnant women from the COVID shot. And they knew. And they knew not only that there was significant miscarriage risk. from the COVID shot. But Vivek Ramaswamy Murthy in the exchange added, you know, we're also worried about fetal abnormalities. There's also reports of fetal abnormalities. They also had a study that was done by one of the health bureaucrats in the Biden administration. And that study said there was an 82. percent increase in miscarriages. 82%. They didn't bother to share that study. In fact, what they did was they watered it down. That's what they did instead. They added a population base to water it down. Just I guess in case somebody found it. And didn't tell anyone. And didn't tell anyone. There were warnings about these shots. It is contraindicated in pregnant women. They told pregnant women they were totally safe. Get it anyway. High risk pregnancy, you need the shot. First trimaster, get that shot. Third trimester, get that shot. Get the shot. Get the shot. Get the shot. You're going to get fired if you don't get the shot. We're going to cancel you as a patient at the pediatrician if you don't get the shot. You know, lose your benefits. If you don't get the shot, get the shot. 82% increase in miscarriages. So we are going to talk about this. This is a crime. It's a crime. And no one's going to be prosecuted for this crime. So all of this is coming up on the program. By the way, if you are of a mind of vote. I would get going. Not that you're going to have to wait in line because it's low turnout. Hardly any Republicans are voting. But if you've got, you're living in that Steve Noss's former Senate seat, you've got a pretty competitive primary there. If you're in Waukesha, there's a competitive primary for sheriff. I don't think many people are listing in District 7, Congressional District 7. That's Tom Tiffany's old district. There is a very competitive primary going on there. So there are some places where you want to pay attention if you're a Republican. But for the most part, all eyes are on the Democrats. We will take a break. Senator Ron Johnson's going to join me. We're going to start with the blockbuster texts that are being utterly dismissed by the mainstream media. And by utterly dismissed, they're actually printing the opposite of what is true. Here's Channel 27 out of Madison. Republican senators released Anthony Fauci's old texts about COVID vaccines and pregnancy. Years of evidence show they're safe. That's not what years of evidence show at all. But that's what Channel 27, WKOWW out of Madison, decided was an appropriate headline for the information that there was an 82% increase in miscarriages thanks to the COVID shot. We'll be right back.

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All right, welcome back to the program. It's the Vicki McKenna Show. So shout out to shanties or shanties or shantase. I'm not sure how you say your name. She says, hey, we're listening to you up here in District 7. We listen up here in District 7 and we voted. We love it. Hi to the District 7 people. I don't mean to dismiss you by any stretch of the imagination. You are where normal Wisconsin. is maintained. You are your, you are bulwark. All right. Ron Johnson, though, is standing by Senator Ron Johnson. I want to get to this latest revelation. They just seem to be coming fast and furiously. You've noticed the headlines have dismissed what you and Senator Paul have released regarding Anthony Fauci's private text messages that were on his government phone, by the way. And they had to do with public policy and public health. And what we know is that Rochelle Rolenski, Vivek Ramaswamy Murthy, and Anthony Fauci knew damn well that there were worries about pregnant women getting the vaccine. And we know that there was a study that actually showed miscarriages were up 82%. for women who got the vaccine in the first trimester. So let's just dive into this. The headlines are dismissing it. There's no evidence. Republican senators say X, Y, or Z, blah, blah. The media is committed to killing kids, I swear to God. So, you know, being Mr. Sunshine and Mr. Glass half full, but let me give you the good news. At least the legacy media is covering this as a news item. They completely ignored what I think is even a bigger bombshell revelation. My April 29th report that showed Peter Marks, the head of the FDA division that approves vaccines as opposed to surveil for safety had, again, I won't get into details we discuss this. They were showing all kinds of safety signals, including sudden death. So this is news because Anthony Fauci on, you know. January 25th, the 2021 was aware of the fact, by the way, I've never heard this before, that the second dose created more cytokine storms following that dose. I'd never heard of that. And then he theorized that... That could be problematic, particularly in the first trimester of pregnancy. So, yeah, it's being dismissed as well, this is what you'd expect, Mr. Science to do. He's hypothesizing. And they're considering this. This is exactly what federal health officials ought to do. Okay, fine. I would, what's interesting, I'm getting a lot of criticism for mentioning Dr. James Thorpe, who's, you know, decades-long OBGYN. saw the miscarriages, saw the change in dramatic change in menstrual cycles in his patients, testified twice, once at a public event, I think once in front of our subcommittee, he analyzed a paper.

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written by Tom Shin Bookuru, who I wouldn't trust any further than I could throw him. He's the guy who's in charge of safety surveillance. For CDC, we've now interviewed him, completely unrepentant. It was not, for my standpoint, surveilling for safety, did everything he could to hide the safety signals by just turning a blind eye toward them. Anyway, so he published a paper in the New England Journal of Medicine. And there's controversy now in terms of how. He first interpreted. By the way, in the Journal of Medicine, I think in September, this paper was published in June, then in September, they modified it because it was misleading. James Sorbs looked at a different analysis of it. That's the 82% miscarriage rate. I've now been contacted by the double, other people who've looked at and say, well, it's only double the normal miscarriage. I don't, that's how big a mess. our federal health agencies and the data they collected, that's the mess they've created. So again, I'll let the scientists sort that out. I'm getting criticized for even bringing up to James Thorpe. I would put more faith in James Thorpe than I would in CDC's Tom Schimbeckor, but lay that aside. This is what the legacy media is doing, is they're mudding the waters, and they're ignoring the headline news here is that Anthony Fauci. knew that the second dose, and again, I don't know what study he was looking at that told him that, okay? But the cytokine storm, that's the nasty part of the coronavirus in the lungs that killed people, right? That was occurring on the second dose and could impact pregnancy. The media is just glossing over that, but they knew this potential and that they pushed it relentlessly, first and third trimester, and then pretty said, oh, no, at any point pregnancy. We're just not seeing anything because they weren't looking for safety signals. When they saw him, they buried him because it would create vaccine hesitancy. So, again, Vicki, I am just thankful that now at least because it came out of Anthony Fauci's text, the news media is at least covering adverse events, which they've been ignoring, they've been gas sliding, and, you know, this, I mean, these people like Brand Drescent, because the mainstream media, because the... federal health agencies refuse to acknowledge that these things are real, they can't even get treatment. So again, I'll look at this glass half full, at least, at least the media's covering this. My post on this, I think, over 6 million views already, so it's getting noticed. And I'm glad it's getting noticed, and I really am. But if you roll back the clock, Dr. Michael Yeeden was on my program, thanks to you. You got me in touch with him. And he was a major director of research for Pfizer for years. He started his own pharmaceutical company. And he speculated early on that the way the vaccine was developed was going to have an impact on fertility minimally. going to, not might, but will. He was run out of a polite society. Naomi Wolf said the same thing. She had been hearing from tons and tons of women, that fertility was effective, that miscarriages were happening, but she's not a doctor, right? Yeaton was. She's run out of polite society. You're talking to other OBGYNs. They're saying the same thing. They're told to shut up. They are being gaslit into silence.

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And this whole time, the same media that's threatening to censor and cancel all of these people are saying it's 100% safe. It's 100% safe. Like nothing's 100% safe, but they're saying this damn thing was 100% safe. And now we have an 82% miscarriage rate. And the women who it happened to, are they blaming themselves? Or are they blaming the vaccine like they should? But no one was even bothering to track it at scale. So we knew exactly how bad this thing was enough to say if you're pregnant, don't take this shot. It minimally, if you're pregnant, don't take this shot. You know, we had a, you know, the president of an oncology society, be a Democrat witness. This is months after I had Dr. Jake Scott, who, you know, again, just by asking him questions, humiliated him, he didn't know anything about the MRI injection. Nothing. And so they bring this president of an oncology society highly respected. My witnesses were kind of blown away that they got somebody this high caliber. And she comes in, of course, said, there's no proof. There's no proof that these MRI shots cause cancer. Well, again, there's no proof. If you don't look for it, she also had no idea that this was not true MRNA that degraded ramping the body that was modified with pseudo-urneying to stay in the body for weeks. Despite protein has been found to circulate for more than 700 days. So, again, they just completely ignore this stuff. I mean, we are fighting an uphill battle here. We're up against powerful forces. Nobody wants to admit that this thing was a disaster. You know, fortunately for me and you. We talked to Michael Eaton. He was beside himself. We found out what his former college advisor were going to do. creating this genetic therapy that's going to turn your cells into manufacturing sites for something toxic to the body to spike protein. So there was no way I was ever going to get that COVID injection. You know, and that's why both of us were looking at the Bayer so carefully. And, of course, when we publish the numbers that our federal government health agencies are giving us, we were, I was censored, you were D platform, I was vilified, you were ridiculed. But, you know, we're making some progress, but we've got a long way to go, Vicky. Oh, boy, I'll tell you. Just, you know, I would just like some honest headlines for a change. Channel 27, which is, I think this is just a regenerated, a regurgitated AP headline because that's all they do. And I sent this to you. The headline was Republican senators released Anthony Fauci's old texts about COVID vaccines and pregnancy. Years of evidence show they're safe. That's a lie. That is a headline. That is a lie. And it does damage. And I'm going to speculate on how this happened and why this continues to happen. Because drug manufacturer advertising during COVID was outpacing car advertising, food advertising. It was the number one source of revenue for media, particularly TV media, cable and broadcast television media. The same was not true, thank God, for radio. But it was true for television. And so.

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It is still the number three category of advertiser for all television, whether it's cable or broadcast. They are doing what the people who butter their bread tell them to do. That's what I think is going on here. And I think that's something else you're up against. I think you might get some more honest reporting if we could do something about that direct-to-consumer advertising. Because I think that's going to stop the truth from ever coming out. A more accurate headline there is years of propaganda. have convinced a good percentage of the American population, these things are safe and effective. But again, people are believing their own eyes. You've got a Rasmussen poll says 24% of the American population and believe they know somebody who died from the COVID injection. 24%. I don't know what studies you're talking about because I've been watching this for a long time. All I see are safety signals. All I see are individuals who have been harmed by this. I don't know any studies that proved to save people's lives. It might have. I do know the Commonwealth Fund studies say that the COVID vaccine saved 3.2 million lives in America is complete BS. You can show it with simple math. We've gone over this. You have to assume that we went from 2.9 million deaths, 2019 to 3.4, an additional half million deaths in 2021, to jump to 5 million deaths. In 2021, 2022, the years of vaccine, to say it would save 3.2 million lives. Complete BS. But again, they publish it. The people behind it are PhD mathematicians. Obviously, can't do simply arithmetic or look at a simple chart. But, again, the media glimes onto it. So it's the propaganda. It's the media narrative that they're talking about here because I don't know any scientific studies that show this stuff was safe or even effect. Remember, this is going to stop transmission. You get this and you stop COVID dentists tracks. You won't transfer it to your grandma until, oh, we never studied that. I guess it doesn't stop transmission when we started getting the breakthrough case in Massachusetts. So it's just lie after lie after lie. And what's interesting when you're in a situation like this, you start going back. And it's so obvious. And it's just amazing how well the media, the medical establishment, the, you know, the federal. how they've just hidden that. They just kept the truth so effectively suppressed for so many years. I think you're right, though. I think the truth is not being suppressed. It is being suppressed, but it's not, the suppression efforts are not nearly as successful as they used to be. But, by the way, again, but for Elon Musk buying Twitter, turning it into X, maybe we wouldn't all know as much as we do because that's where I was deplatformed. I was deplatformed on X. I was deplatformed on Facebook. for saying things about COVID, for being, you know, even modestly skeptical. And the gas lighting was so overwhelming. I got hate mail. I'm sure you did too. But from people who called themselves conservatives who didn't want to hear it. Because if you are induced into doing something that is deadly and dangerous and you believe you were doing the right thing, you don't want to suddenly know that you're the bad guy or you're the dupe. And that's another part of the problem as well, is that. We have people who still don't want to believe they got suckered by this. But keep it rolling out because eventually it may be enough. It may be enough to make sure we never, ever have a rollout of an untested, dangerous product mandated for the population ever again, for any reason, Ron.

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So now not only do we know that he said one thing to the diary and said the exact opposite thing to the public, we're going to have his text that'll probably prove the exact same thing. Again, we're just scratching the surface here, right? But do not forget, it was Anthony Fauci. It was calling up Facebook and calling these social media telling them to stop. you know, anybody spreading the disinformation like you and me. Again, I mean, this is Anthony Fauci. He was the mastermind of all this. Yes, he was. He was the director of all this misinformation that I think caused untold number of people their lives. He deserves, honestly, he deserves to die in prison. He does. He won't, but he deserves to. Thank you for joining me on the program, Senator. Great to have you. And thanks for not giving up on this. Appreciate it. Have a great day. You as well. And we will take a break. Let's talk a little bit of horse race politics here in Wisconsin. When we come back, Bill McCoshen is going to join me. We'll be right back. Okay, welcome back to the program. It's the Vicki McKenna Show. So turnout is light today. The heavier turnout's in Madison. That's only 13.1 percent so far at least is of 11 o'clock this morning. So maybe it increased. Maybe it picked up. I have a report from a poll worker in Madison that has overwhelmingly same-day voter ballots are going for Francesca Hong. So you've got poly markets, Kalshi, all of the prediction markets are saying Hong is going to win this thing. Bill McCosh and longtime Republican strategist joins me on the program to talk about it. As the Democrats are losing their minds, they're all going to close rank, Bill. So, you know, she's going to suddenly be transformed into a completely moderate working class girl. You and I both know that. So what's the next step? that's going to be their goal is to try and transform her into a moderate. But the reality is she's got a record. She's got a record on social media and she's got a record in the Wisconsin State Legislature that she won't be able to run from. And I suspect Congressman Tom Tiffany will start ads maybe as soon as 10 o'clock tonight. drawing a sharp contrast between himself and Francesca Hong, what they believe in. And that's frankly something, Vicki, that none of the Democrats did in the primary whatsoever. I mean, this has been growing. The Hong phenomenon has been growing since March. And every Democrat thought it would just go away, and she wouldn't be a factor in the race. Well, he's not only a factor. She's going to win tonight, and I think she's going to win by double digits. Yep, there's a good shot. She's going to win more than 50% of the vote. There's a non-zero shot. Yeah, I mean, it's possible. Nobody thought she originally would win 50% of the vote, but she could. So the Democrats have done this to themselves. I want everyone to, all of the people hate listening to this show. The Democrats did this to themselves, and we can roll back to when Scott Walker unrolled the budget repair bill that became Act 10.

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Dems closed ranks. They got rid of moderates. They got rid of people like Jeff Plaley. They got rid of people like Jason Fields. They booted them all. And who did they replace them with? People like Chris Larson, people like Mandela Barnes. They went for as hard left as they could. They closed ranks and they stopped working with Republicans entirely. And that's honestly, I mean, the national Democrats did the same thing with Obama. They micro-targeted and they did base-level turnout. They turned themselves into this niche boutique party that they've become. Well, and the other thing, Vicky, that you might hear it tonight and you'll certainly hear it tomorrow from, you know, disappointed Democrats is that somehow the Republicans chose Francesca Hong, that the RGA ads helped get her across the finish line. If you watch those Republican Governors Association ads, they are hard negative ads against Francesca Hong. They're not positive ads. So it's a falsehood to say that somehow Republicans got involved in this primary. This is something that Democrats saw coming. They chose not to do anything about it. And now they're going to have to deal with the consequences starting tonight. Yeah, I think you're right. The ads that you saw that were from the Republicans were negatives. They would have tried to tell you not to vote for her. It was to get ahead of what the media was going to do, which was going to be not tell you anything about her. But you're right. The Democrats just sat on their hands. First, they wanted Sarah Rodriguez to be the heir apparent, okay? And guess what? That was working. If you actually go to the polymarket graph, which gives you all the way back to, I think, early June. And you saw when Tony Evers and the establishment Democrats consolidated around Rodriguez, she was leading Francesca Hong by eight points at one time. By eight points, she could have pulled it off. The wheels of her campaign came off because of, you know, shoddy and possibly criminal campaign finance violations. All right, she's gone. Who's in next? You know, Crowley gets out for Rodriguez. Then it's Crowley drafted back in. And this guy's walking around. Like he's Tony Evers servant. He doesn't seem like he's the candidate. Evers seems like he's the candidate. But then he says dumb stuff like I don't like sporkies. I like fruit. I don't think it's, I think David Crowley 2.0 has been a better candidate than David Crowley 1.0, but I don't, I don't, I think ultimately the governor has made him look weak because the governor appears to be the guy trying to drag him across the finish line when it should be David Crowley, the candidate. So I think you're right about Sarah Rodriguez. She would have been a different animal altogether. And even the Marquette full from three weeks ago.

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suggested she had a lead on Tom Tiffany. Well, she was already out of the race by the time that that hole was released. But she probably would have been a pretty formidable general election candidate. But like you said, the wheels came off her campaign bus. And honestly, I think there will be criminal charges when it's all said and done on that. So there were already 393, as of yesterday, 393,000 absentee ballots cast. You've got to believe most of those were for Democrats. A significant number of those came before the, you know, Rodriguez up and down, Crowley in, Crowley out, Crowley back in. So how many of the absentee ballots that have been cast have been cast for candidates, not even in the race? I mean, seriously, how many are going to be for Mandela Barnes? How many are going to be for David Crowley? You know, and that's another fun little morsel about this is that they wanted early voting, early voting. Everything's got to be early voting. And then things go sideways when you have too much early voting and you can't do a damn thing about it. Well, remember, they wanted to spoil the ballot. And Jacobs, the former head of Webb thought that they should be able to spoil ballot. Well, that's not fair to other voters in the district, right? If you vote on Election Day or you vote early in person, you wait until you get as much information as you possibly can about the candidates before you cast your ballot. Well, then you're probably in a pretty safe spot that your candidate is going to be there on Election Day. But if you vote six weeks early, you know, your candidate, at least if they're a Democrat, may not be there. by the time election day rolls around, and that's where we have it. I think you raised a good point about Barnes. Barnes could finish third tonight. Listen, Democrats have muscle memory. They know his name. He's been on the ballot, statewide ballot, two other times before. Once for the Senate governor. Well, three times. Primary in 2022 for U.S. Senate and then a general election. So Democrats who don't follow politics daily, like maybe you and I or a lot of your listeners do, they not even know he suspended his campaign. So they'll go into the booth today and vote for Mandela Barnes because they recognize the name. That's a good point. Barnes probably pulls out a stronger number than you would think for someone who is forced out of the race. Again, he was forced out of the race. And that's the thing the Democrats normally do. They clear the deck. They cleared the deck for Mandela Barnes, didn't they? They cleared the deck for his Senate candidacy. He damn near one, by the way, in that Senate race. And so they didn't clear the deck. And Democrats always clear the deck. This idea, hey, everybody go out and vote for Kelder Royce. You know, go vote for these people. We're loving it. Okay, we want more of it because you guys have managed to step on rakes all damn election cycle. So here's a question for you, Bill. Do they platinum her? Because if you look at, again, the poly markets or any of the prediction markets, I don't care which when you can look at any of them, but Kelsey's got the most money in it. Calci's got like $5.3 million in it. The expectation that Tom Tiffany beats her now is 75%.

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That's a flip. It's a complete inversion from where it was before she became the heir apparent Democrat nominee. It looked like the Democrats were going to easily keep the Wisconsin governor's seat. Now the prediction markets say it looks like the Republicans are going to pick it off. It's unbelievable. I mean, 10 months ago, no one would have seen this coming, but they can't flatter her. And for your listeners that don't understand, there was a mechanism under main law by which Graham Platner could take himself off the ballot. He could voluntarily take himself off the ballot by a specific date. Wisconsin doesn't have a mechanism like that. So the only thing they can do, Vicki, and frankly, Long signaled that today is they're bringing in a new staff to run her general election campaign probably stopped tonight. You can't have the porn star as your deputy campaign manager. That's just not, I mean, that's not rolling into Wausau. That one's not going to lead up there in, you know, the Ashland area of Wisconsin. I mean, this is, this is, and again, it won't matter. She has got a piece of legislation that would legalize prostitution. She wants, you know, government-run grocery stores. She wants to smack anybody making over, I think, what it is, is it $300,000, $400,000 a year with the highest tax rate in the state? In the state of Wisconsin, she wants anyone with in excess of a million dollars to have to pay a 17% top tax rate. So, I mean, these kinds of things, you know, and when on top of that, when you've got the ick of, hey, let's legalize weed, legalize prostitution, turn everyone into a bunch of stoner porn hounds. I don't know. I just don't think that one's going to sell in rural Wisconsin. Well, and there's some, there are other things. If you've seen Tiffany's new ad, he talks about education and raising standards. Don't forget, she voted against raising standards and probably worse, at least as it relates to suburbs and suburban women. She voted against the grooming bill, the Ned Westie Grooming Bill. You had Amanda Nadeweski Om several times. There were only six people who voted against that. Who wants groomers in the classroom with their kids or grandkids? I mean, those are things you can't defend in Wisconsin. That's true. That's true. That one's not going to sell in Waukesha County. Sarah Rodriguez wouldn't have had that problem. Nice white lady in Waukesha County. She might have picked off some of those suburban moms. Yeah. Well, and I think Tom Tiffany's figured it out. I mean, his new ad is very direct talking about the issues. I think there's going to be hard contrast that starts as soon as tomorrow. And that's the campaign he's got to run. Even though their prediction markets have him leading, it's still a midterm election, right? This should go against Republicans based on history. But Republicans have found themselves in an unbelievably favorable position, both for the governorship.

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and for maintaining control of both houses of the legislature with 84 days to go. Yeah, and here's why. It's not because they're so good. It's because the Democrats are so bad. It's not, again, you've, the DSA rising, that sun that is rising over the Democrats right now is one that they don't know what to do with. So the old guys are willing to say this is going to be a disaster, the axle rods of the world, James Carville. They're all willing to say this is going to be a disaster. But those are the people who the young voters and the young consultants want out. And so they are better organized. They're better organized and they've got money. And she's going to have money. Make no mistake. It's not like she's not going to have money. Oh, yeah. She will have money and she will try to make it about Trump. That's what I think. She will try to turn Tom Tiffany and a Donald Trump. Her only chance is to make it a referendum on Trump. And if Tiffany can make it about DSA and Francesca Hong's voting record in the legislature, you know, that's to his advantage. I think so too. And I also think she can be a foil for other campaigns nationally because you can nationalize Wisconsin. You can, and Tiffany can also nationalize Francesca Hong because she's nationalized herself with the BSA stuff. Yep. Bill McCashen, thanks for jumping on the program today. Great to have you. Great to be with you. Bye. Bill McConsion, Republican strategist, and we will take a break on the Vicki McKenna show. All right. Well, we'll know tomorrow now. We'll know tonight pretty soon, I think, because of low turnout. So we will wrap up and. break down the election results tomorrow on the program and then, you know, hopefully Tiffany hits the ground running. Everybody in the meantime, have a wonderful evening. We'll see you back here on the Vicki McKenna show. Hey guys, Lady Luck here. Are you going on any road trips this summer? I know I'm going to be going on a bunch of road trips. And being that I'm going to be passenger princess, I love playing on SpinQuest.com. SpinQuest has all of my favorite slot games, live blackjack, live craps. Head on over to SpinQuest right now and get yourself a $30 coin pack for just $10.00. SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit spinquest.com for more details. This is the race fans wait for all year. EMSA returns to Virginia International Raceway, August 21 through 23rd, as the world's top GT teams and drivers battle for championship points on VIR's iconic road course. See Porsche, BMW, Corvette, Mercedes-AmG, Ford and more competing wheel-to-wheel. Three days of racing, paddock access, and nonstop action. Secure your tickets now at racevIR.com. That's R-A-C-V-I-R.com.