Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Aug 11 2026

Something that is deeply talked about that has started with the $10 million challenge. And I think it's everywhere. But we will continue on variety of fronts. But I do think this is rare that I'm staggered by how much demand there is for a story. This one surprise me. Now we take you back to the top of the menu. Clay wanted to give you details on a special. It's a special. So there you go. He didn't tell you with the price. Well, I guess the price for the special is $10 million, actually. So we know that's the market price, $10 million. By the way, word to the wise. Whenever you're at a restaurant, I don't know how often you guys all experience this. If they're selling you really fresh fish and they price it by the ounce, watch out. Because nobody can do that math in their head. And all of a sudden you find yourself with a very big bill. Just telling you from somebody who lives near the water, that's the way it goes. Now we have the aftermath of Anthony Fauci. Have you never experienced that? You've never gotten like a grilled fish and you find out it was 16 ounces at, you know, $20 an ounce or something crazy. No, it's interesting. You actually have me deep in thought. I've only seen steaks priced by ounce. I believe I've ever seen seafood. Yes. Yeah. Then you know it's a mortgage payment. When the steak is priced by the ounce, it's a mortgage payment. Just get ready for it. When it starts saying wag you and then some Japanese stuff after it, like. The actual prefecture and everything, then you're in trouble. When Kamala Harris runs, I'm going to make you take me to one of these ounce steak places. Yeah, I know. It's like butter on your tongue when they sell that steak by ounce. Like you taste that thing. And I remember the first time I did it, I was like, there's no way this can be that much different than a normal steak. Like it, candidly, at like Outback or Texas Roadhouse or someplace like that where I'm typically out eating steaks. It was like butter on the tongue. Like unbelievable. I now return us to the news cycle. Anthony Fauci, the COVID shot. The pregnant women angle of this, we talked to Ron Johnson right yesterday. There's a lot of response to this. Look, there's going to be some people, I mean, Clay, there's going to be some people who say it's not smoking gun proof. It was a possibility. Okay, yeah, but they shut down all concerns about all possibilities, knowing that they were real possibilities and therefore real concerns. So that's valid. WMBA, we're going to dive into that. Trump reacting to a bunch of stuff. in the Oval Office. Today is Decision Day, Wisconsin, for the governor's race. Interesting there, Clay, that the progressives, at least according to Politico, well, to be fair. an endorsement is a public record thing. A lot of far-left people or far-left star makers, I should say, for the progressives like Bernie Sanders, are not endorsing Francesca Hong. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, not endorsing her. And I think it's because they worry that she's too much baggage in the general. So it's interesting. There is still a line for progressives on this stuff. You know what I think the worst thing that she has said is?

Cancel Thanksgiving. I agree. I think that's just, there's a lot of, you can say abolish prisons and walk that back with like, what I meant was and start throwing out some nonsense. Cancel Thanksgiving? Like, who wants to cancel Thanksgiving? This would be like saying I want to make cheeseburgers illegal. You're not going to win in America. If you say, I just think we need a ban on cheeseburgers. They need to be alongside cocaine on the drug schedule. This is also where. Some people, and I'm affectionately calling you this, who are nerds, get really upset because they say, I don't know why we aren't talking about tax policy or the national debt or other very significant issues. And this is where I just have to say. It's hard to cut through the noise. When you say cancel Thanksgiving, everybody's antenna goes up and they look around and they say, what? It's like a record scratch moment. When you say, hey, we need to have a policy when it comes to taxes that is, and people's eyes glaze over because they don't really understand it very well. Communication still matters. But this is like the women's sports issue. When you say, hey, Chicks with penises are actual chicks. There's a better word that rhymes. And then when you say cancel Thanksgiving, people just, it's a record scratch. It makes you recognize just how discordant and out of tune and touch you are with that person. And I think she's, I love that she said, did you see the latest? She said, my bad on some of my past takes. There you go. That's very Gen Z of her. I do love that you can just, wasn't it you who was just, what was your? Oh, nobody's perfect. Nobody's perfect. When you're in an argument with your wife and she's got you and you know you're wrong, don't apologize. Just look at her and dismissively say, nobody's perfect. That's so good. Nobody's perfect. Basically, Francesca Hong is pulling the buck sexton. Nobody's perfect. My bad is like what you say when somebody got screened and you didn't get your hand up in front of the shooter and he made a basket. It's not when you say, hey, we need to end all police and we need to abolish prisons and we need to cancel Thanksgiving. My bad. You and I agree. Abolishing police at least sounds like a policy decision. So as crazy as it is and it's very unpopular politically and it's insane and we've gone over that a million times. Cancel Thanksgiving is just insane. Nobody wants to cancel Thanksgiving. That's not even a thing. I mean, it would be like saying, I want to cancel fun. Why would you ever want to cancel or delicious food? I want to cancel delicious food. So I understand you might think, oh, but Bach, all this different stuff. The reason Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Bernie. Because right now there's a momentum behind this progressive stuff, right? And they got the Hasan Piker guy running around saying crazy stuff. By the way, he's also doing some of the My Bad, but he does it with America Deserved 9-11. But, you know, this is what you're seeing happening. There are a bunch of progressives who have won, and they're gearing up for a midterm. People can disagree. I think they smell metaphorically Republican blood in the water.

The sharks are circling. I think they think that we're in a tough spot right now, and we can get into this. But even with that clay, Francesca Hong concerns them, and they don't want to tie their brand to a basically can't win campaign. And I'm telling you, I think it's because she said she wants to cancel Thanksgiving. I just don't think you can win the state of Wisconsin. I think you might be able to win. you know, like a suburb of Boston or something. Actually, not even because they love their history up there. I'm trying to think of a very liberal. You might be able to win like a San Francisco, you know, alderman seat or something, whatever they call it. But I don't think you can be governor of Wisconsin. Sadly, to be able to win parts of Madison, which is a very left-winged University of Madison, Wisconsin location, right? University of Wisconsin, Madison, for those of you out there, I think I reversed it. Great place to watch a football game, by the way, at least when it's not cold. But I will say, this is, I think, what may end up saving Republicans. There is an overreach that is not dissimilar to what we saw in 2022 where less moderate candidates were selected, further right candidates than the moderate ones because people were so angry at Biden. And as a result, moderate voters in many different states that were winnable didn't go with the Republican candidate. I think Abdul El-Sayed being selected in Michigan. Mike Rogers is going to win. I really do think that. Now, that's a 50-50 race in the prediction markets right now, so that's not a crazy prediction. It's coin flip. And Francesca Hong, if she is the nominee, as everyone expects that she will be for the Democrats after this day. 65% chance now, Buck, that Republicans are going to take back the governor's seat in Wisconsin. So going left wing and picking a 37-year-old former bartender state rep who wants to cancel Thanksgiving is actually going to end up blowing up in the face of the Democrats, much like we still happen in 22. So I'll give you a few things on this. First of all, this is a bit of role reversal because in August of 24. You were concerned about Kamala Harris v. Trump. Now, to be fair, that was before she had said anything. And I was like, I'm sure she's going to win by more than he even beat Hillary by because I had faith that Kamala Harris was so terrible. Now, that overconfidence in Kamala Harris's terribleness, by the way, is eventually going to cost me a stake because then I took that too far afterwards with my, she's not even good, she's clearly going to run. But, you know, I made a crazy, Clay, he's very, you notice this, he likes the gambling. He's very good at this. He knew that I was throwing out a sucker's bet. It should have been, the bet should have been, she won't be the nominee.

I'm not even as confident about that anymore. That would be a real bet. I took her with a bunch of our friends. I was out to dinner in L.A. I'll put him on, just admit it. Alexi Wallace, like, he was like, there's no way that's it. We were out. He was one of the guys at dinner. Everybody at the table we were with took me on the opposite side. I think there were five guys there. I bet them all. Kamala Harris will be the nominee. But I just, I wanted to give this preamble because I was super confident in Trump in 2024. I did not, there was not a single day from when the Biden debate happened. And that I didn't think Trump was going to win. I'm like, Trump's going to win. This is all over. Game set match, 100%. So that ended up being correct. I'm very pessimistic this time for Republicans. It's not Trump, but for Republicans. I am pessimistic now. Certainly about the House, I think the Senate is going to be a, it'll come down to a seat or two. This is not some crazy prediction. I think a lot of people think so. I mean, you know, it's come down to a race or two. And I think that the Michigan Senate race is going to be decided by, you can mark this, it'll be decided by, I'm not going to pick a winner in it, hoping Mike Rogers pulls it out, that's going to be decided by less than 30,000 votes. I don't think that's a crazy take. I mean, I would say it's going to be the closest of all the Senate races would be my prediction right now. I think Mike Rogers will get us across the finish line there. He lost by 19,000. Again, we got a huge audience in Michigan. A lot of this is going to come down to how aware are a lot of non-traditional voters who show up and support Trump will those same guys. And a lot of them are guys, particularly in rural areas. Will they show up and vote in a midterm race with Trump off the ballot? I think that's the biggest challenge. You're also going to see a Muslim American turnout in Michigan for Abdul El-Sayed that... It's going to set the all-time record for their participation by far. And you're going to see 99% of them who vote are going to vote for Abdul El-Sayed. It's going to be an absolute. So, you know, that's a part of the, and as you know, Michigan has a very substantial Muslim population. So that makes a difference here. So A-PAC spent $30 million, bet going with Haley Stevens over Abdul El-Sayed. I meant to bring in my print edition of the New York Times this morning. APAC is going to evidently spend big money on Mike Rogers. They have never, this is a sign of shifting political wins. They have really never stepped into a controversial race like this on the side of a Republican.

So they dislike Abdul El-Sayed so much that they are going to be spending reports are tens of millions of dollars on Mike Rogers side to try to persuade people, Jewish voters in particular, not to vote for El-Sayed. I think it will be unpersuasive. Okay. I think that that money, I will tell you right now, I'm not an A-PAC advisor or anything. I think that money is wasted. I don't think they're going to be able to earn many votes if any votes. I mean, they already... put 30 million into Haley Stevens and he beat him. But this is what I'm saying. People always talk about money in politics and they understand there's a correlation, not a causation. Mike Bloomberg is one of the richest people in the entire world. He's probably worth, what, $100 billion now, something like that? He spent hundreds of millions of dollars on his mayoral race back in the day or $100 million back in the day. And Clay, when he ran for president, he couldn't get above like 1% or something. I mean, he was a blip on the screen. Money doesn't mean victory. Money is necessary. And Abdul El-Sayed is going to have a lot of money coming in from the coasts. He's going to have a lot of money pouring into his side, too. So, Clay, he also, guys, you know, you notice a little good cop, bad cop here, okay? Clay can give you the unicorns and the fairy dust that everything's great and rainbows were all going to win. I'm here to tell you I'm worried, okay? I'm worried. I'm confident. I feel good right now three months out. He's confident. You can all like Clay and his confidence and be mad at me for my worry. But I kind of want the Trumpster to get out there. I know it's the summer and no one's doing anything. But after Labor Day, we've got to see a lot of action from a lot of Republicans out there making the case about this communist surge in the Democrats. These people are wackos. Look, there's a lot to take into consideration when you own a business. Making time to understand the insurance you need is just one thing you need to take on. You buy it because you must plan for everything. Claims, employee questions, accidents on the job, a lot of things that come up. Super Sure can handle all of that for you when it comes to business insurance. Their goal is to make it easier for business owners, CFOs and HR directors, to actually understand the insurance they're buying, how it works for them, how it protects them. So if your company has more than 25 employees, which is a lot of you listening right now, and you're the owner or a CFO, HR manager, anybody involved in that process of getting business insurance, you need our friends at SuperShore, licensed in every state for your business insurance and employee benefits, all with year-round support for you and your team at no additional cost. SuperShore also has a fine print fax tool, which translates your current policy into plain English. So you see what's covered and what's not. Go to supershore.com slash buck to see why growing businesses are moving beyond traditional brokers. Supershore.com slash BUCK paid for by SuperShore Insurance Agency LLC, a licensed insurance agency. Looking for normal in a world of crazy. Clay and Buck have your back. Life moves fast. At American Military University, they're ready to help you keep up. AMU's flexible, affordable online programs in cybersecurity, IT, space studies, and more are designed for service members, veterans, and their families. AMU provides the support you need to take the next step, wherever life takes you. American Military University, made for what's next. Learn more at amu.apus.edu. Got plans this summer? A brewery crawl? Another lake trip?

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And by the way, as I keep telling people that don't fall into these definitional games, they do this because, first of all, it's like a pseudo intellectualism that people on the left have. You know, when they're like, oh, I'm sorry, do you really know about Stalin? I know that he killed millions of people and he was really bad. Like, yes, I do actually know about Stalin. You know, I'm not talking about just me. Actually, I know more than most leftists about Stalin. But the point is, in general, you can just know the things you have to know and don't let them challenge you. with minutia or the specificity of things. You know, how many of the people do you think that are actually, that in the DSA clay, know Stalin's name in the underground? How many even know that Stalin isn't really his name? And that it was like a Norm de Guerre and it means man of steel. How many would even know, they don't know any of this stuff? They know nothing. But though, we're democratic socialists. How many do you think know that the Bolsheviks, the original communists, called for elections? They were all about elections the first time. so that they could then get a mandate to tell everybody else that we're in charge and now we line you up against the wall, right? So Democratic Socialists, Clay, the Bolsheviks were Democratic Socialists until they weren't. Yeah, and look, a lot of people who are listening to us from Latin America have experienced in real time the creep of socialism into totalitarianism. No one knows what you just laid out. The average historical knowledge of American history in this country is virtually non-existent, much less what people know about the history of politics in the world. Sadly, how many people even know about the Berlin Wall falling? I mean, I think a huge percentage of the kids, and I'm defining kids broadly to include a lot of people in their 20s because that's a big part of his coalition. A lot of people who voted for Zohran Mamdani in New York City aren't even familiar with the Cold War or the era of the Berlin Wall coming down and Eastern Europe becoming free. It's out of their worldview. Heck, it's been 25 years since 9-11. A lot of kids don't even know about 9-11. And so this is why historical literacy, illiteracy, and historical literacy is so important. Because we don't teach basic history anymore. They've turned history into sociology. So it's really just a study of different oppressed class and how they interact. And the actual baseline knowledge of history, both world and American, I think, has never been lower. And I think that's intentional because if you have the memory of a goldfish, you're easier to manipulate. That's the reality. I mean, it's scary how few people know basic history. And then if you combine it buck with how few people know basic history and how few people know basic financial literacy, what percentage of people know how a mortgage works? What percentage of people can accurately tell you what the impact of 20% interest on a credit card is over multiple years? People have no clue. So you get people upset because they're in financially dire straits because they don't know any better. And then they don't have historical knowledge. So you just convince them, hey, you have to support something new. They're not selling socialism. They're selling new.

Oh, this is new. Even though it's failed in the past, a lot of people look around, and especially this is pertinent buck. So many people, this is where I'm somewhat sympathetic for many of these people. They went to high-end expensive colleges. They got advanced degrees, masters in different fields. They are by objective measures of testing, for instance, very smart. but they have no actual common sense knowledge, and the market isn't valuing the education that they have. So if you're living in New York City right now, mom and dad are probably helping to pay your $5,500 a month, one-bedroom apartment rent. That's the average rent in Manhattan now. You are making $50,000 a year, which sounds like a lot of money, but as you know, having lived in Manhattan, that's not even enough to pay for a one-bedroom apartment in Manhattan, even your $10,000 short. on that salary by itself, even as a young person starting there. So you're piling multiple roommates in, you're borrowing from mom or dad, and you're looking around and saying, why is capitalism not valuing what I'm trying to sell? It must be because capitalism isn't working. I'm a socialist now. Do you know what the poverty threshold is for benefits and things in New York City for a single adult? It's about $50,000 a year. Yeah. Now, you might say that's crazy because the average household income in America is 55, 60? What is it right now? I've got a check. It's been going up in recent years. Yeah, it's more than that now because household is defined oftentimes as two people working together, right? But individually... $50,000. $83. So it's $83. Average household income is $83. I'd have to look at average per capita income because you're talking about a single individual. To your point, play, household is often too. Man and woman working both, but yes. My point being in New York City because of the cost of living, if you're a single person making $50,000 a year, you're in poverty, basically. Or you're right on the red line of poverty, which if you're a single guy making $50K a year and you live in Tulsa. You're doing well. You live a nice place. Probably have a nice car. You're paying for on the driveway. So it's very different. It's basically twice as much to live in New York as it is to live in most other metros. It's like double the... So if you make $100,000 in New York City... Also true in the Bay Area, but that's because of all the AI and the Google and tech money. It's like that's a whole other universe. But Clay, it's really, and Miami actually now is as expensive as New York City, unfortunately. So. Well, and again, I think what this comes to is you are frustrated. And if you are frustrated, you're able to be manipulated because you have no historical knowledge. You don't have a lot of financial literacy, so you're not able to keep in front of your bills. And so you're looking around and saying, if this isn't working for me, it has to be that there is something that is broken in American capitalism.

And so that is who they are feeding on. And they aren't really selling them socialism. They're just selling them. It isn't capitalism is not working for you. Let's try this new thing, which as we know is not actually new. But if you're 25 and you were born the year that 9-11 happened. Socialism and communism can seem like something that might value you more. So it's illiteracy from a historical perspective coupled with frustration. Voila, Zohran Mamdani saying, I'll make your groceries 30% cheaper and I'll ensure that your rent isn't going to go up. And if you want to get a sense as to how much the dishonest, oh, it's not socialism, really, it's just going to make your life easier and less expensive line is. Gavin Newsom is getting in on this game. He's criticizing capitalism. This cut 16. Play it. Capitalism as we know it, not going to work, as we know it. It doesn't. 20 states still pay $7.25 of minimum wage. We printed that first trillion. I was with college Democrats yesterday. It was interesting. Two of them said that, of all things, they said that it was physiological for them. It wasn't even, these are young people that felt something about that. In the way, it was interesting. The one real way, I said, She described it so vividly in those terms. It was alarming to me because she just feels like she's locked out of all of that. And so again, I think our party needs to call that out. Concentration, we need to call that out. Capitalism, as we know it, not going to work. Gavin Newsom, what's your worth, $20 million? Doesn't he own a vineyard? Oh, he used to at least. Yeah, he had a wine company, liquor store in many different respects. I mean, he's worth a ton of money. But again, this is somebody who's become very rich in the capitalist system and then turns around and instead of, one, being humble and grateful for it, that's way too much to ask. It's Gavin Newsom. But two, encouraging other people to also, you know, to experience and to chase after the benefits of a capitalist system, he's playing the emotions game. That's right. Playing to their emotions. And it's working. And this is why yesterday we were saying that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in the way that she's able to speak authentically to the audience, even while selling something that is awful. And actually, this is the other important thing, Buck, actually is going to make things worse, right? All of the processes that are being put in place by Zohran Mamdani are likely to make the average New Yorkers life worse than it would have been if they had never, ever embraced it at all. But they feel like they're doing something.

And that is who Zohran Mamdani is taking advantage of. The kids call it the vibes. The vibes. And you even have politicians now who will use this phraseology because they know that it appeals to the under 30 crowd. which is a substantive. They don't vote in high numbers, but there's a lot of them. And it's a vote that could be very useful for Democrats in these places. And Clay, here real quick, here's Francesca Hong, sounding just like Gavin Newsom on the, we're not going to turn into communism. Just look at our minimum wage laws. Play 15. This is cut 15. Are voters who fear that I just so Democratic Socialism could turn into communism? What would you want them to know? No. This is a state where we still have a 233-tip minimum wage and 725 minimum wage. I think it's going to be pretty hard to turn that into socialism soon. I just want to note they both. Gavin Newsom and Francesca Hong talking minimum wage right away. This is like when you say, hey, I think communism is bad, and people say, oh, do you like the 40-hour work week? Do you like weekends? Yeah, that's really what we're talking about here. Clay, minimum wage is one of these things, and it's true, by the way, even on the right, it never works the way that people who want it think it works. There are always tradeoffs, but it sounds good and people like it, so it wins. I will point out Francesca Hong, who is on the ballot today and is going to become probably the Democrat nominee. As you said, she's not being endorsed by people on the left. I think it's because they don't respect her intelligence. I really do. I mean, when she gets these questions, she's incapable of answering them. You may not like Zohran Mamdani's answers. You may not like Abdul El-Sayed's answers. You might not even like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's answers, but they have a... Just a smoothness in their glib answer and grin dynamic that she does not have that allows them to get past some of these questions. Does that make sense? They can confidently parrot the mandatory phrases. That's right. She can't do it for whatever reason. And I think that they know that she's going to get exposed on a level that even Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez can't get exposed on. Look, unfortunately. We have a huge audience in Spokane. There have been, it appears it was arson, a lot of different investigations that have gone on into all the burning that happened in Spokane. Over 1,100 structures, they believe, have been harmed, 65,000 people evacuated, all sorts of issues all throughout Washington. It's emblematic oftentimes of what happens. After a disaster, your insurer's job. is to pay you as little as possible document everything don't cash the first check get representation before you sign anything under insurance is the trap

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and how the president of the United States has clearly viewed it as an advantage to, you know, he didn't pick Karoline Leavitt out of a hat, everybody, okay? You know, go down and look at who, I think, even though it's a guy and Trump is straight, I think Pete Hegseth looking like a, you know, square-jawed guy who would be put as, you know. like Captain America. He looks like Captain America. Yeah. Yeah. I think that that was enormously to his, I know that that was enormously to his advantage with Trump making that pick. Marco Rubio, also telegenic, Secretary of State. This is reality, folks. Clay and I live in reality. In reality, we can talk about good-looking people having an advantage in politics and in public life without anyone getting into a tizzy about it. We're not sitting here writing odes and sonnets. to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, I can assure you, neither Laura nor Kerry are worried about our feelings for Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, okay? So we're just objectively stating reality. All right, two things, news positive. One, this just happened. A man named Robert Gilman, I think, is the last name. I jot it down really quickly because this is just breaking. It may be Gilmar. I can't read my own writing. This is where Buck would attest that sometimes when I jot down notes quickly, as those of you who saw. Pickles back in the day. People still think that Gerald Pickles was like some kind of a put on. I swear, Clary wrote down Gerald Pickles. Robert Gilman has been in a Russian prison for four years. Many people say that he was unjustly in a Russian prison. They just posted a couple of minutes ago that he has been released. They posted a photo of him. Here's Marco Rubio. Today, after more than four years of detention in Russia, Robert Gilman is on his way home to be reunited with his family. Mr. Gilman joins over 100 Americans. President Trump has freed during his second term in office. We thank Russia for working with Steve Witkoff, Special Envoy Steve Witkoff, and there are still others that are being sought, but I do think it is worth mentioning that. And certainly... That is a welcome result. All right, Buck. Earlier, I was being positive on the midterms. Those are still months away. And we do have Wisconsin and Minnesota voting in their primary today. I didn't mention off the top of the show when we were talking about primaries. South Carolinians are also voting to pick a replacement for their Lindsey Graham, former senator who passed untimely after winning the nomination to serve another six-year term. There are a bunch of people who are running. I'm going to look up right now, Buck, you can comment on this. I'm going to look up the actual markets to see who is favored and what we expect to see happen. I think there's going to be a runoff because my understanding is you have to get over 50%. And given the number of individuals running, it's unlikely over 50% is going to happen. I...

First thing comes in my mind because I'm a silly Yankee, even though I now live in Florida. Although I feel like Florida, if you're South Florida, it's like Yankeeville here anyway. Everyone comes from New York, their families in New York or in the Northeast. Is there a difference between a South Carolina accent and a Tennessee accent? Depends on this part of the state. The South Carolinians in, a lot of people don't realize this, but. As you move west, because you think of South Carolina as like a coastal, I don't think a lot of people do. You think of Charleston, you think, I know it's in Georgia, but Savannah, like kind of the sort of palm trees and the brackish waters, the bays, all those things. As you move west, it becomes basically the Smoky Mountains. So the Appalachian region of South Carolina, you sound a lot like you do in the mountains of North Carolina, the mountains of Tennessee, the mountains of Georgia. So it's really a regional Appalachian or Appalachia, depending on who you ask, accent, that you're, that that's what, you know, something, I'm weaving here for Second Cleggs. I know we want to get into the South Carolina thing. Did you see Wall Street Journal today, they have a whole piece that's on the timeline. of the naming of American towns and cities. It was really interesting. I didn't read that yet. That's super interesting. I mean, I'll give you the very short version is, of course, the earliest place names. Well, they start in New York. or they started around that era. The earliest place names are English, you know, English names, you know, James Town, et cetera, Plymouth, English place names. But then you get into the Dutch names, which are in the New York area. I always think it's so funny, too, that, like, 1655, the British just show up with a bunch of ships, and they're like, this land is ours. And the Dutch are kind of like, okay. Like, just let us keep our stuff. And not a shot fired. Everyone just kind of hung out, you know? Although Peter Stuyvesant named, or rather the famous high school in New York name for him, Peter Stuyvesant wanted to throw down. And his people were like, no, that's a crazy idea. The British will kick our asses. Like, there are four frigates all armed up, like where we can't do this. So, but anyway, then it gets into how you, after the revolution, you start getting these names that are biblical. You start going with these biblical names because they didn't want to keep the convention going of English place names for towns and cities. And, of course, then you have the Spanish influence, which is heavy around the southwest, California, the former parts of Spanish Empire, and the French influence along the Mississippi Basin because of France, Louisiana Purchase and all that stuff. But it gave kind of a brief history of all these town names, which I thought was really interesting. And then the Native American... or the anglo-sized or English versions of Native American names. Yeah, like Tennessee and Kentucky and places like that. I did see, speaking of the geography of settlement, the south where I live, and this kind of confirms in general.

is not a place where people feel connection to Europe or other countries. Most Southerners feel more of a connection to the South or America. And there was a map that actually reflected that's true when you ask people where they're from in the Southeast. They say, well, we're, you know, Southern, we're United States. Whereas, like, my wife is from Michigan, a lot of people, and I know Northeast where you grew up, a lot of people still feel a connection. to Italy or Ireland or to, like, we don't really have St. Paddy's Day parades very much down here in the South in general compared to other parts of the country. But like Utica, Ithaca, Syracuse, Goshen, these are all either biblical or ancient Greco-Roman place names, and it's because those towns and cities were founded post-revolution that all of a sudden it wasn't New York and it wasn't, you know, all these different... places that come from the Virginia. These are all things named obviously for the English. I thought this was really, it's on the Wall Streeters, came out a few hours ago. Everyone knows the Spanish stuff is quite obvious. I mean, that was Spanish territory, Los Angeles, San Francisco, San Antonio. It was really the eastern side of things that was more interesting to me, the way that the names changed over time. But yeah, how 10,000 American cities got their names. And it goes into all of that. And it's part of the 250th anniversary of the Wall Street Journal put this out. It's 334-page report that they broke down some of this for you. So there you go. Like, for example, how many people know why there? Like, do you people in Decatur, Illinois? I hope you all know that your city is named for an absolute badass from the war against the Barbary pirates, Stephen Decatur. No, I think the first special operations here. This goes back to the question in hour one. Most people are morons when it comes to history, and they're financially illiterate too, and it's all most people don't know. Most people don't know basic history. By the way, I'm pulling it up. Right now, the three favorites to win, again, to advance as long as somebody doesn't get 50%. Darlene Graham is the sister of Lindsey Graham, has been endorsed by President Trump. I will say I'm going to Laura Travis. said you should be talking more on the program about the fact that she's just the sister and she gets to be a senator she said i haven't heard you or buck even raised this as an issue she's never done anything in politics and she just happens to be the sister of the sitting senator and so she gets to be a senator Why aren't you guys talking about that? And I said, I don't know. So why Travis has asked. It's a very good point slash good question. I would say the answer is very similar to when I used to say, I don't think the president should have his immediate family members running the White House, which is that people, a lot of the rank and file Trump voter wants and or has total faith that when Trump an appoints somebody, either as an appointee. or in this case for a Senate seat that he knows what he's doing and they put their full faith in that decision and they don't want it to be questioned. Yeah. For those who don't feel that way, this is Lindsey Graham's sister. This makes no sense. Why would anyone vote for her? But that's a different approach than the, if Trump was going to go for it. After my wife brought this up, Buck, I asked Grock and I looked it up. Typically, it's the wife.

of a sitting senator who has ended up taking his seat. I believe that's happened seven times historically. But that's just for an in-term appointment, right? She's actually running for the Senate. No, she's running for the six-year term. Yeah, yeah. She's a sitting senator right now to fill out until January. The interim thing, I feel like, yeah, the person votes. You've got to wait for an election. That's different. That's fine. I get that. Like, the wife stepping in for three months is no big deal. Yeah, for the six-year term, it's happened eight times that there's been a family member that has... kept the seat in the senate particularly seven times it was a widow makes sense some because you have the same last name never before has a sibling gotten a seat so darlene graham is favored right now then Ralph Norman Russell Fry that is the top three according to polly market buck i forgot that he was running do you remember mark sanford The governor of South Carolina who vanished, they didn't know where he was. Was he hiking in Argentina with a paramour? With a mistress. They didn't know where he was. The governor of South Carolina just, they were like, we don't know where the governor is. And then they found out that he was, I think it was a mistress. He might have been divorced. Let's like do a research on that. But he was with a woman. on a hike in Latin America while being governor, he is the fourth most likely to be selected as the next senator from South Carolina. Would you go on a solo hike with the woman who wasn't your wife, girlfriend, or mistress? That would be quite a, you know what I'm saying? First of all, I don't want to go on a hike with anybody. Totally agree. It does seem unlikely that you would just be like, hey, I'm just good friends with this woman. Let's just go walk in the trees for a while. Did your parents, yeah, because when you're going on a real deal hike, you got like a trowel for taking care of your business and you know, you got to use leaves. Like it's, you know, you got to really want to spend time with this person. There's a reason why man moved from living in caves and the woods to in a home, like in a structure. Did your parents try to get you in on the camping thing, like convince you the camping was like the Great American Pastime? I like being outdoors during the day, but I want to go in at night. So we would go out into the great outdoors, but no, I was never a camp. And we've never done it as a family. I told Laura, like, the reason I work is to put a roof over our head. Like, why would I abandon a roof over our head? My dad's two favorite traditions that he has not been able to get his children to take up for the next generation are being on a boat in a storm where you might not make it. He loves that for some reason. And sleeping on the grounds in the woods with no one else around and like an air mattress for like weeks on end. Like he loves those things. Can't sell me on either one of these. I don't want to be a boat in a storm. I don't want to be sleeping on the ground in the woods. So. Different strokes for different folks or different generations. Okay, I'm going to give us a positive spin, I promise, on murder rates. That's a great story. It's a great story. You've got to stick around for this. Clay brought this to my attention. I love it. And my Florida friends, you're definitely going to stick around for this. But I've got a life hack for you. Chalk supplements. Texas-based company, that's what Chalk is. Been with us here in the program from day one. Chalk supplements are formulated with natural ingredients. They give men and women.

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Clay, do you want to take it away with the details of this story of Air Force One, Trump whisked away from Turkey, threat from Iran, hidden in a, Trump was hidden, they say, this is the New York Times and the Washington Post, in a food service cart of some kind. Pretty wild stuff. You are interested in this. What do you make of it all? So I want to get your take on this. So last night I'm reading. I'm going to read a couple of paragraphs for those of you who did not read this. The Washington Post with a story with four different reporters writing on it said, The clandestine mission, which has not been reported previously, was carried out unbeknownst to journalists and some White House staff members who believe they were on the same plane as the president. According to material reviewed by the post, a U.S. official familiar with the operation and another person with knowledge of the president's travel. People spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk about the matter. Okay, so here's what happened basically. President Trump boarded. There were three different planes at least that were a part of this travel group to Turkey here about a month ago. President Trump left the new Air Force one, that's the Qatari jet, and boarded the old Air Force one, walked up the steps, boarded the plane. They say that the, for those of you who ever paid attention to the front of an airplane, the door that is not the one you get off on can open up and usually does, and that's where they bring on. The food, sort of the hospitality cart, as it were, for the airplane pulls up on the other side. They open that door. They bring on all sorts of stuff through there. President Trump boarded the plane, they say, walked basically straight through, got in to this otherwise beverage sort of cart. that they pull up, they took him down, and then he got on the plane that Pete Hegseth was on secretly. Everybody thought he was on Air Force One. He was actually flying on a smaller Air Force plane with the Secretary of War Pete Hegseth. Now, I don't know how often this happens, right? I have flown on Air Force One when the president gets on the plane. The presumption is the president's still on the plane, right? They snuck him off due to, they say, an Iranian assassination attempt or threat. My question for you, Buck, is as I'm reading this last night getting ready for bed, my wife said, oh, I think this was a leak. And they're trying to catch.

the person who actually shared this with the Washington Post because there was an investigation into the report that he had changed jets, which they said violated national security. To me, Buck, the president secretly getting on different planes. is even much more of a story if it's not wanted to be out there. So you worked in the CIA. How would you assess this? What is the story here? The White House did not deny it, which I thought was interesting. And the Washington Post obviously has treated this as a huge coup or a huge story. And it is kind of amazing. I didn't know this ever happened. So what are your thoughts on this? So in counterintelligence tradecraft, they would call this a canary trap where you put information out there to see, if you're trying to see about finding a leak or find the mole, another way people will talk about this. They will put it out. A canary trap is they'll say something, you know, like if I tell Clay, hey, I'm going to be at this really expensive steakhouse on Thursday. And then the New York Times prints that and Clay is the only person I told. And I'm actually going to be somewhere else on Thursday. Guess what? Canary trap, right? Now I know who it is. So you think that may have been to me. Laura asked me that question. I was like, oh, that's super. Because it doesn't make sense to me. that you would want this to be out publicly, that the president does it, because it would, I just, it seems very, it seems important to keep that secure. Yeah, yeah. Well, the one thing that I think is funny is apparently the press pool journalists, whom I've never, well, I've joined, I've never been one, but I've sort of been along with them with the Secretary of State and with the Secretary of Defense in the past. I haven't done it with the president. But you're kind of heard it along like, you ever see kids when they're being taken to like a museum or something and they all have to hold? It's like a rope that they hold. They put you in a van and you just kind of follow along. Yeah, they treat you like grammar school kids going to the museum together. Like you're just sort of this little gaggle. And it was funny thing is too, I was with them once. And they were like, okay, we have to get the opening shot, run. And I was just like walking. I'm not running. Like, I'm not here to take photos of the Secretary of State walking into this building. Like, I'm here because he wants me to interview him. It's a little different. But nonetheless, it's, anyway, it's not a job that it's one of those things that sounds a lot more glamorous than it is. I will tell you, like, press pool on Air Force One or press pool with the Secretary of State. It's a good thing to cut your teeth maybe as you're making your way up in the media world, you know, some stories. Anyway. But, Clay, they were really ticked off, apparently, that they were considered canon fodder, so to speak, in case there was a real threat against the president. It's like, well, your plane may go down, but at least Trump's fine, you know, and the journalists were not happy about this. But guess what? Secret service isn't there to protect the journalist. Secret service is there to protect the president. So that's not a surprise.

Yeah, it just does it. If you're upset that the fact that there were multiple planes used by the president goes public and they're conducting an investigation into how that gets out. Then to me, the fact that the president is basically entering and they're playing the video right now on CNN. The videos are up there of Trump climbing the stairs, going into Air Force One, and then evidently just walking basically straight through the airplane and getting off on the other side of the airplane and going to a new one. And then again, yeah, if the plane had gotten shut down, all the journalists would be dead and the president would be on a different plane. Can you imagine that reveal? You're like, oh, my goodness. Air Force One has been struck. It's gone down. Everybody is, everybody's dead. And then Trump just gets off another plane. It would be a crazy situation. I mean, it would be the craziest thing since a bullet grazed his ear. And he said fight, fight, fight, which was also a real thing that happened and pretty wild and crazy in retrospect. But I don't know how often this happens. I do think that there is a... significant and worthy discussion surrounding how this story got out, who leaked it, and the fact that the White House didn't deny it is what kind of makes me think that it may have been intentional and designed to smoke somebody out. So, I mean, it's a lot of effort, it's a lot of effort to smoke out a leaker. What I took from this was actually the surprise that the threat from Iran... could be high enough against presidential security that they would really be worried about this. That was a little bit surprising to me. There have been some pretty kind of out there, but serious or taken seriously plots in the past. Remember the Iranians were going to assassinate an ambassador in a restaurant in D.C. that actually I know quite well have been to many times, kind of a well-known place in Georgetown. So the Iranians have had this kind of stuff before in the past, but for the president to change flight, let's just say that what you're saying is true, I don't actually have a clear view on that. To me, it seems like a lot of trouble to go through to smoke out a leaker, but it doesn't mean it's not what happened. The alternative is that the Iranian threat against the Trump administration, or against President Trump, rather himself, was so intense in that moment that they would change his flight schedule in response to it. I'm surprised the Iranians have that kind of capability, even of theoretical capability, to worry the president with a service detail. Remember, this would have been in Turkey. He's a guest of the Turkish government. The Turks have very serious internal security apparatus as well. So, you know, a little surprised. Let me just say this. You may have better knowledge of surface air missiles than me. When, I'm only flown Air Force one, you know, on one trip, but it was multiple different flights. I thought that there would be a jet escort in some way that was visible with Air Force One. Meaning, I thought when I sat in the window and looked out that there would be some...

deterrent effect, meaning there's a jet out there way off in the distance or something. You thought you were an executive decision, Kurt Russell, Steven Seagall, remember that movie? Am I? Yeah, but am I crazy? Like I thought, I remember I was sitting there and I'm like, do they not, do we not have like a jet, you know, escort in some way that is visible out there? There isn't. How we don't know what deterrence mechanisms Air Force One has. How difficult would it be to hit Air Force One or I've worried about this for a long time, the Marine one, right? The helicopters that fly over D.C. all the time. They have two of those. And the idea is you never know which one the president is in. That's the reason that I've been told that maybe that they have to have multiple other people traveling. But they always have two. If you're in D.C. and you see Marine One, you don't know which one the president. Do you think? Do you think, like the movie, Dave, there's a doppelganger of the president as well who goes around, like, the best president ever. I'm telling you right now, the most beautiful, handsome, brilliant president. Because there's a lot of Trump impersonators. But my question is, how hard is it with a surface-to-air missile to hit? Because if the Iranian... What you're talking about, it's a man-pad, I think, would be a man-portable air defense system, like a shoulder-fired missile that they call the man-pads. Sam, usually people is referring to when someone says a surface-air missile and S-A-M... Usually I think it's a mechanized, more like a Russian S-300 system or something like that. But with a man-pad system... I would, look, first of all, I have never read anything. I've never seen anything about the classified about the president's defense, so I'm just guessing I have no idea. But you would assume that there are countermeasures on board Air Force One that would, things like, you know, chaff and some of the guys, you know, air defense and aviation way better than me would be able to weigh in here. But I'm sure there are countermeasures. It's not just like we hope that nobody can pop off a shot at the plane. That would be what I would think they might have been nervous about in Turkey. because otherwise why would he be changing planes? Like they must think, like, I don't think that they're thinking, oh, somebody's going to try to shoot him as he's boarding the plane, right? They must think that there's some sort of plan. Or they were trying to smuggle a bomb onto the plane. There might have been a concern that somebody, you know, that's a matter of. But theoretically, you wouldn't want to take that off then, right? Like, you wouldn't want to get in the air with a bomb on the plane. To me, the most like, and again, this is not my level of expertise, but the most likely plot that they thought existed. to me seems to be that it would be somebody firing at the plane when it's in the air. But then it goes back to the journalists. They really are cannon fodder.

Well, this is the levels of the thing is the journalist stayed on the plane. And they're like, so we all get blown up. If this actually gets blown up, the president's fine. And that's just the way that it is. Meanwhile, we're here to cover the president. I would say, yeah, Clay, I mean, the man-pad threat to aviation is something that counterterrorism analysts have been, you know, analyzing and looking at it for a long time. The truth is that any, whether it's a plane or a helo, take off and landing on the most vulnerable periods, you know, top to bottom, always. So you always have some threat there because you're close to the ground. The thing about some of the man pads can go really high with their range. Some of them are much slower or lower ceiling. That's very possible. They might have gotten some chatter about it, and they just didn't want to take a chance. I said Turkey is a serious security apparatus. How much do we trust Turkey? That's a whole other question. It's not the UK. I was going to put it that way. It's not the UK. It's not Canada, you know? I would put Trump's safety in the hands of the Brits or the Canadians entirely without a say. I would say he wouldn't even need secret service in those countries based on their desire to protect our president. No, I'm not saying he would do that, but they're on our team when it comes to the safety of our president. Turkey? I think so. I think they are. I don't know if they're as on it, though, as some of the others. I'll just say that. So I think that flying out of Turkey, I know they're a NATO partner, blah, blah, blah. I know all that. But it's Turkey. I made a steak bet with Light Em Up Linda on the show yesterday. We posted it on X. If Byron Donalds's not the next governor of Florida, I'm going to take Light him up, Linda, out for a steak dinner. Speaking of great steaks, our sponsor, Good Ranchers. They deliver the best right to your home. Good Ranchers connects you with ranchers and farmers across the U.S. raising healthy cattle, producing excellent quality steaks. They're doing the same with poultry, pork products, too. Good Ranchers. gets hooked up 100% American meat straight to your door, pasture raise, no antibiotics, no added hormones for a limited time. You can get $50 off your first Good Ranchers order. That means you can build your own box starting as low as $129. Just visit Good Ranchers.com slash Clay to get $50 off anything on the site. Remember, good ranchers.com slash clay. $50 off good ranchers.com slash clay. Level up your brain and balance out your day with the right amount of information and entertainment. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton on the IHartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. Life moves fast. At American Military University, they're ready to help you keep up. AMU's flexible, affordable online programs in cybersecurity, IT, space studies, and more are designed for service members, veterans, and their families. AMU provides the support you need to take the next step, wherever life takes you. American Military University, made for what's next. Learn more at amu.apus.edu.org. Got plans this summer? A brewery crawl?

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