Tony Katz and the Morning News Full Show 8-10-26

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It's the most wonderful time of the year. No, kids, no. Your parents love you. Please, don't get me wrong. They love you and they adore you, and they're still going to put all your artwork on the fridge, even when it stinks. It's just they're happy just to have a little bit of silence. It's the half-happiest season of all. But isn't it? isn't it until of course you realize what it is that your kids don't learn when they get sent to school and you're like my gosh what have we done so just remember kids while your parents may be thrilled to have just a wee bit of silence it's all temporary and what's permanent is the holy hell we're putting you through with the non-education that you're getting was that was that was that too much was that was that too soon Have fun, though. Truly, have a great time. I have got a ton to get to. I've got the word from Axios that President Trump says we're lockeying it with Iran. I'll explain what that means, how it ties into a story with the Wall Street Journal, which if you went to Tonycats.com and you got your email yesterday. How anyone could believe this story is insane and how insane the story is if it's true. It's one of those. That is a concept. Nope. I can walk through all of it and make it all go away. There's also the ever-loving possibility that, yeah, sure. Yeah, we're this nuts. And then, of course, how Bernie Sanders wants to have a pause on AI development. You understand if Bernie Sanders had his way, we never would have developed the automobile or the airplane. This is not a guy who believes in growth. You want to talk about weak minds, weak people, weak constitutions. AI pauses? China is not stopping. This isn't stopping. We do have to ask ourselves about our guardrails. That much is true. But this falls in line with the same people who don't understand what data centers are. The mob mentality silliness against data centers, which comes from the left and the right, ignorance at its finest. We got to further rip that apart. State fair is going. We heard about some violence that happened there. You'll hear that story from Ryan Hedrick in the WIBC newsroom. And we avoided a shutdown. That in and of itself is a story. As I said, a lot to get to. Oh, and some praise for the indie star. No, don't worry. You'll understand soon enough. Tony Katz, that's me, by the way. Good to be with you. 93 WIBC. Good morning. What is Toyota affordability? It's buying smart. Your local Toyota dealer has great deals available today on RAV-4, Grand Highlander, Camry, and Corolla, with the features and style you deserve. It means driving for less with hybrid and plug-in hybrid options across the lineup, delivering great MPGs. And it means trading for more. Toyota is known for building long-lasting vehicles, meaning your car will hold its value for years to come. Shop Toyota.com to find out more. Toyota, let's go places. Tony Katz 93 WIBC. Good morning. Well, we can listen to that all day. I have a job I have to do.

Um, why did you send me a video of city county counselor, communist Jesse Brown singing? Uh, because I know that you love his singing. It's, it's not. It's not true. Uh, he, he's talking about budgets and austerity. Listen to this. One day, boy, another year, another budget speech. This never ending road to austerity. This man whose budgets are a crime sure seems to be drunk all the time one day more. Oh, well, Jesse Brown has decided to come out swinging. I mean, if we're going to give the communist credit where it's due, he did call for, uh, for Joe Hogsett to resign. The Democrats didn't do that, but they threw him out and rightfully so, and the DSA threw him out, and that's just hilarious. But he's one of these people who believes that we should have data center moratoriums. Is he one of those? Yeah, he is one of those. I didn't hear the whole thing. I just caught that first part. I'm like, why is counselor Jesse Brown singing? And he's wearing an ascot, which is never. That is very rarely a look. Indeed. A finger on the dump button there, producer Carl. Well, theater kid. How dare you call me a theater kid? All right, fine. Maybe I was a theater kid. Yeah, we know you were a theater kid. And now he's all opposed to data centers. These people, unsurious, but we'll get to that later. Low-key is the way President Trump is describing the new approach with Iran. We're low-keying it. All right. So basically we're dating the fat girl now. Is that what we're doing? We really like her. We just don't want our friends to know. For the ladies, you're dating a guy who's only five, six. There, you see? Now, don't get upset. We see how you speak about people who are shorter. And, well, if you want to die alone, that's fine. Wow, now I'm coming out swinging. What the heck is going on? I got good sleep and everything. The president's saying that we're going to keep the economic pressure on Iran, as opposed to ordering a new military offensive, even if the country wants to act in open defiance, we were about ready to totally annihilate them. And now, here we are. Is the straight going open, not open? Nobody knows. You know what? Why get worked up about it? Just, we'll just keep up the pressure and that'll be that. Oil prices, $78.80 a barrel in the West Texas crude, $84.38 on the Brent crude, not where the president wants to be. But all of this is in the backdrop of...

A Wall Street Journal story. The story headline was Trump thought opening the Strait of Hormuz was imminent Iran had other plans. What the story is about is this idea that Trump is now so desperate to get out of this. He's willing to do anything. He doesn't even need guarantees that they won't pursue a nuclear weapon. He'll just say that he won. And as long as oil prices go down, we're good. Now, for those of us who've been paying attention and understand the rules of Trumpism, the first rule of Trumpism is Trump wins. The second rule of Trumpism is that a deal can always be made as long as it adheres to the first rule of Trumpism. Now, there is a third rule, which I've been working on what constitutes a deal, see rules one and two. Right? A deal can be anything. He could say this at any time, declare a victory at any time. What he can't do is have a legacy if Iran starts working towards a centrifuge again, starts engaging in uranium enrichment again. There's no legacy. It gets ripped apart. So the idea that Trump has grown tired of this doesn't have the will for this anymore. Trump wants legacy more than he wants oxygen. It would seem a very weird thing to say, oh, he's going to walk away from it all. Iran has control of the strait. We can't stop Iran from blocking ships in the strait. And now they want hundreds of billions of dollars. And we have to admit we are wrong. And all the troops have to leave the region. That could be Iran's position and plan all you like. They could have made the calculation that they simply, if they can remain standing as at least they are through the IRGC, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, well, then they have won this thing. They can outlast because the U.S. doesn't have the stomach for it because of high oil prices, which is also the fault of President Trump for not explaining the situation to the American people, just saying, do whatever, go along with whatever I want. They won't do it. They won't do it. You're powerful. You ain't that powerful. It's not the way this works. And no one on your team has told you this yet, which is stunning. Wait, they've told him he's not listening? Possible. Iran can claim the tough guy all they want. But something that we have noted here is certainly true. We are not dealing with any regime at all. We're not dealing with any organization whatsoever. We're dealing with the IRGC. Now, you say to me, Tony, that is an organization. These are factions within factions. And there was a really interesting piece on someone's substack, I'll get the name of it, that discusses the idea that what we're dealing with here becomes mostly impossible to deal with. Because you're dealing with individual groups within the IRDC and they are not actually ideologically concerned. Now that's a takeoff of something that I have said. I should say a takeoff. I should say departure. Because I discuss these people being Islamists and they are. But they also have an interest in their own power. And to make a deal is to cut off their own power and they have no interest in that.

So you have these individual groups within the IRGC acting as their own factions and fighting as they feel they need to or want to. Uncontrollable, but what they keep is their power base. And that is everything. We had heard stories that there were those in Turkey working with the Iranians to help move sanctioned oil. Well, that was one person moving millions and millions and tens of not hundreds of millions worth of oil. What makes us think that it isn't happening in other places? So they're able to fund this and keep their power base. So we're not dealing with a regime. We're not dealing with a government. We're dealing with factions. And then there are multiple pieces within the faction. And you cannot get them to some cohesive kind of deal because deals are not their interest. You possibly have a president who's grown tired of this. Maybe he has, but he hasn't grown tired of the border. He hasn't grown tired of tariffs. Why would I believe that this is the case? Some talking point on MSNBC, MS now, whatever the hell they call themselves. I don't buy that either. And as for the low keying it, we'll just keep the economic sanctions. We were discussing this last week. This is a country that is working towards economic collapse. I would never have given them the billions of dollars that you did, but it doesn't flow to the people anyway. There has to be a discussion about arming the Kurds. There has to be a discussion about arming the people. There has to be a discussion about breaking the IRGC from the inside. But the very idea that I'm going to believe the Wall Street Journal on this, there's no reason to. But I will state for the record with all things being possible. If Trump said, hey, we've got lower oil prices, lower, not low, lower, it's good enough. There are not enough four letter, five, letter, six letter, and seven letter words I would have for Donald Trump and that whole team. And I would try my best to use them all here and not lose my job. Oh. You turn and run now? The level of relentless from me would be overwhelming. Read the story, read the Axio story, and then put it all to the side. No one has an idea of what Trump's going to do next, which is... His plan all along. What is Toyota affordability? It's buying smart. Right now, your local Toyota dealer has great deals available on some of the most reliable trucks on the market, like the off-road ready to coma, rugged full-sized tundra, and legendary forerunner, each with the space, tech, and features to handle it all from the work site to the trails. It means driving for less, with efficient hybrid options available. extending your overall driving range and delivering great MPGs, meaning bigger savings at the pump without sacrificing power. And it means trading for more. The Tacoma and Tundra are ranked number one and number two in resale value over all vehicles according to Kelly Boo Book, which can mean thousands more than average right back in your pocket when it's time to trade in. That's Toyota affordability. Buy smart, drive for less, and trade for more. Shop Toyota.com or your local dealer for deals and details.

Vehicles projected resale value is specific to the 2026 model year. For more information, visit Kelly Blue Books, KB.com. Toyota brand average resale value is 53% versus the average vehicle at 45%. Toyota, let's go places. The reckoning moment for the WNBA is here. Tony Katz 93 WIBC. Good morning. Allow me for the sake of clarity. The WNBA did this to themselves. It is all their fault. It's a total lack of management. It's a total lack of PR. It's a total lack of being willing to be honest. And most importantly, to tell whatever it was that was the WNBA, that's over. This, of course, is the news that you have two former NBA players who have now announced that they will be declaring for the WNBA draft. Good Lord. Ines Cantor, I knew. Royce White don't know. But they have both decided that based on the eligibility requirements, the WNBA can't keep them out. So they're going to declare for the 2027 draft. The left can go on the attack all they want. These aren't real women, this, that, the other, but somehow trans women or women, even though they're men. They can't define. They can't be honest. They can't explain. They have no reason to keep these people out. Oh, you have to be taking this drug and that drug. All of a sudden, there are rules. So there are no rules of what makes a woman, right? Biology does not matter. You can take all these drugs, but if you don't take the right drugs, then you can't say you're a woman. So there is a standard of what makes a woman. Fantastic. They don't hear themselves. They don't listen to themselves. Of course, it's all madness. But the madness is all on them. Specifically, the liberal white woman who is so totally broken and wants society to be destroyed for their families and for their future. Liberal white women are the absolute worst. Hello, hello women of West Carmel, Westberg Clay. How are you? Yes, we're talking about you. Oh, Boone County and Hendricks, so many of you. Liberal white women are broken people. who will bring about the worst of the worst because they are fine with the worst of the worst. They won't stand up to anything unless its name is Trump and then, ooh. They won't stand up for their own daughters. So by announcing that they're going to do this, the WNBA had to respond. And the WNBA's response is that they're going to have a meeting. They're going to have a meeting. regarding transgender people in female sports, saying the topic is complex and nuanced. No, it's not. Not by any stretch. It seems, and you've heard this repeated, that they're going to have a meeting amongst the WNBA brass to determine in the Women's National Basketball Association, what is a woman? You can't.

Can't make this up. It cannot be made up. This is who they are. The Women's National Basketball Association needs to have a meeting to determine what a woman is. They did this to themselves because this is such an easy thing to answer. And they won't do it because they're afraid of the press. They're afraid of the people and they're afraid of their own players. It's make a break time. However it works, however it goes down. Tony Katz 93, WIBC. Good morning. What is Toyota affordability? It all starts with buying smart, and your Toyota dealer has great deals available to qualified customers on reliable cars and SUVs, including the redesigned RAV-4, spacious Grand Highlander, sporty Camrys, and Corolla's. It means driving for less, with efficient hybrid and plug-in hybrid options available throughout the lineup, extending your overall driving range and delivering great MPGs, saving you money at the pump. And it means trading for more. Toyota is known for building long-lasting vehicles. And as the best resale value brand, according to Kelly Blue Book, your Toyota can be worth thousands more than average when it's time to trade in. That's Toyota affordability. Buy smart, drive for less, and trade for more. Shop Toyota.com or your local dealer for deals and details. If vehicles projected resale value is specific to the 2026 model year. For more information, visit Kelly Blue Books KB.com. Toyota brand average resale value is 53% versus the average vehicle at 45%. Toyota, let's go places. If it were up to Bernie Sanders, we would never grow as a nation. That's a very obvious thing to say out loud when you see the story that Bernie Sanders is calling for an AI development pause. Tony Katz 93 WIBC, good morning. I put forth to you that this is the same argument being made by those people who want AI data center moratoriums in the state of Indiana. Two things can be true at the same time. The AI, whether you like it or not, is inconsequential. And the AI is something we need to keep our eye on. Not every county in Indiana needs a data center or wants a data center, but plenty of counties in Indiana. We'd be thrilled to have a data center. We can decide that we are a state that doesn't do data centers. If so, what is it that we do? That last argument has always been my first one. That's the one that I have come to on a regular basis. If our plan is not to do data centers, what is our plan? What is it that we're interested in doing, building, creating? And what I have learned from the political left and a good swath of political right is zero?

Not interested in building a damn thing. This is a terrible approach that is harmful to Indiana, and I'm only hoping Chuck Goodrich, now that he is the Secretary of Commerce, is working overtime to correct some of the real mistakes that were made by the Braun administration from before day one. Mistakes with growth, mistakes with the IADC, all of it. I still oppose the concept of elevate ventures. I still oppose writing checks and determining winners and losers. Going out and selling our story and creating plans and opportunities to bring business in. Of course we should. We're in competition. No growth is death. Let's grow up and deal with that reality. Let us be sure that we're creating jobs for all types of Hoosiers in all the places. Do we need biomed? Of course we do. Do we need manufacturing? Of course we do. Is there a place in Indiana for both? 100%. Why would we forego one for the other? Why would we create a Main Street approach that would forego large-scale development? Main Street approach doesn't work for everybody. Ignoring Main Street seems kind of silly, but saying it is the front and center to forego the other things, which is what happened in Indiana, nutty. Gen Z can push back against AI all they want. There's a fantastic story from the New York Post that Gen Z has taken up smoking. It's amazing. And why do they take up smoking? And I'm not saying you should smoke unless it's cigars, in which case, go right ahead. Honestly, if you want me to do intro to cigars for Gen Z, pick the day. You give me 10 Gen Zers, 10 of them, young Republicans, young Democrats, I don't care. Ten Gen Zers who want a class on Cigar 101 for Gen Z, I will set that up. 100%. Why are they smoking? Because it's a connection to something real. Man, this whole digital revolution, they feel wholly disconnected from anything that is tactile, connected to others, to actual things. The move back to DVDs, CDs, VHS tapes, I was in a thrift store with my oldest. over the weekend and the thrift store had um it wasn't even individual components of a stereo system which my oldest has been crazy about like like that's so cool i gotta make that happen where i'm i'm like go make it happen well go go you know you need two turn tables in a microphone back showed us the way make it happen or just one and some kind of amplification maybe maybe a uh a tuner a uh an equalizer But this was all in one. And it looked like the four components, but it was one big stack. It was from Sony. And we all had one if you were Gen X growing up as a kid. And he's like, oh my gosh, it's got cassettes. Did not know how to eject. Didn't know how to open it up. So it had two cassette players. So I eject one of them. And my oldest was like, what?

And then did the other one. Like he had discovered fire. And then they plugged it in. And he got the five disc CD carousel to open up. And he's like, and it was spinning around. It was amazing. Had never seen one before. They're pushing to smoking because it connects them to something. Never mind, just other people. I believe that's all true. I believe this anti-AI insanity is not true. This is just the latest cause-seleb. It's ridiculous. And I would tell Gen Z that two things can be true at the same time. You shouldn't let it control your life, but don't think for a second that people aren't going to keep adapting and growing into this. We've got trillions of dollars invested. It's going to keep happening. Be as angry as you want. Don't take it out on a data center. This is happening. Never mind, the national security implication regarding China. And we can discuss this while we discuss cigars. You give me 10 Gen Ziers. I got this done. I got handled. But an AI development pause is a remarkably ignorant thing to believe in. He writes a letter. to Sam Altman and Emode and Mark Zuckerberg, Mark Zuckerberg of Meta and Sam Altman of Chach GPT. In the interest of humanity, stand by your words. Pause AI development. It's not too late to avoid disaster. Stop building machines that humans cannot control. Let me be very clear. If you do not take appropriate action now, my colleagues and I in the U.S. Senate will. I don't want the U.S. Senate anywhere near AI when it comes to its development. We can ask questions about safety and security in its deployment. Bernie Sanders doesn't know how to develop AI, and I don't want that commie loser anywhere near it. Mittens boy, hell no. He's a fool. Bernie Sanders is an ignorant old man who wouldn't know anything about AI. If you showed him AI, if you said to him, we want to get rid of this AI. You wrote down the letters AI for him. He would think it was steak sauce. He doesn't know anything. He's never created anything. That's the best part about these commies. They've never created anything in their entire lives. And yet they want to tell creators how to do it. And if you're already going to do it, why should they do anything? You go do it. You go decide why should we regulate ourselves? You want to regulate, you go right ahead. You and Nate Dogg go regulate. The AI is here and there are things we have to deal with. Yes, there are things that we can ask, hey, what about safety and security going forward? Development is not the room of government. And I'd like to teach Gen Ziers how to smoke cigars and enjoy themselves. What is Toyota affordability? It's buying smart. Right now, your local Toyota dealer has great deals available on some of the most reliable trucks on the market, like the off-road ready Tacoma, rugged full-sized tundra, and legendary forerunner, each with the space, tech, and features to handle it all, from the work site to the trails. It means driving for less, with efficient hybrid options available, extending your overall driving range and delivering great MPGs, meaning bigger savings at the pump without sacrificing power.

And it means trading for more. The Tacoma and Tundra are ranked number one and number two in resale value over all vehicles, according to Kelly Boo Book, which can mean thousands more than average right back in your pocket when it's time to trade in. That's Toyota affordability. Buy smart, drive for less, and trade for more. Shop Toyota.com or your local dealer for deals and details. Vehicles projected resale value is specific to the 2026 model year. For more information, visit Kelly Blue Books KB.com. Toyota brand average resale value is 53% versus the average vehicle at 45%. Toyota, let's go places. I mean, we can talk about the WNBA, but honestly, nah, nah. Nah, boring talk. Tony Katz 93 WIBC. Good morning. JMV joins us. Here's the voice of sports at Indiana, 93-5-107-5 of the fan every Monday through Friday at 3 o'clock when he's not doing, I don't know, some yacht rock thing or he's a little bit everywhere. I'm very, very impressed. Can we talk about camp? We've got the Colts on a plane heading off for preseason fun. Talk to me about how camp is going and what we can expect. Yeah, Tony. Good morning, gee, brought you by L.D. Smith, plumbing and drains at 317-927-7-1-186. You know, it's interesting. This is going to end up being another case where the fans and a lot of us in the media that talk up to Colts all the time are going to be right because the problem is. And this is not anything right now because they're not playing real games. But the fact that the wide receiver position, you got Alec Pierce, who's yet to return from practice, you got Josh Downs, who's injured, they bring back a guy in, I think DJ Montgomery had been here before. That's one of the reasons why they bring him back for camp. Hey, Tony, at some point, they're going to have to seriously address that position because even when that thing is at full strength, you can tell they need somebody. But as we move along right here, they have absolutely nobody. I know Ashton Doolin is there, and that's fine, but they have absolutely nobody. And this is something that you are going to have to address. I'm assuming it's a matter of time, but the clock is ticking for this team to get somebody, whether it's Keenan Allen or somebody else, because here's the other thing you look at, Tony, these names.

that you could have interest in they're coming off the board right now and that becomes more problematic as we move along the issue is not that we don't have some receivers of note the issues is that we don't have depth that at at receiver is this what i'm hearing Well, yeah, and the fact that the guys you're counting on right now are dinged up, and you don't know about Alec Pierce coming back. I mean, really, Tony, when you think about it, there are so many crossed fingers out there that everything goes right, and really with the Colts, have everything gone right in these circumstances. But you're going to have to have a healthy Daniel Jay Jones looking good, coming back, and everybody's talking about. You're going to have to have some options at wide receiver. And I left out Tyler Warren. Obviously, you expect him in a year or two to have a much better year. productivity-wise, but you've got to have somebody else. And honestly, even if I'm talking about Alec Pierce out there and practicing or Josh Downs being healthy, you're going to have to add somebody. Michael Pittman Jr. did not produce results. at a high level. However, he was a threat. Tony, he was somebody that on the scouting report that you had to look at and say, yeah, we're going to have to at least game plan in case they throw in his direction. And you lose that and you put more pressure on the other guys to perform and they don't have enough of the other guys. So to me, this is something you sit around and you wait. That's one thing. But I would get... Somebody I want out there right now in to start working them out. Kenan Allen's always been the obvious choice because he's been with Shane Steichen before. You know, he's a high-level type of veteran receiver that I think that they need. But at some point, you're going to have to address that. And really, I don't know what they're wanting for. Talking to JMV, the voice of sports in Indiana, 93-5-1075, the fan. I don't know if they're necessarily waiting for anything. I know those conversations have been there, but let's say it's not Keenan Allen. Who is on the board right now as a wide receiver that you say that's the person we should grab? Well, it is Alan because you've just seen too many of these guys come off. I mean, Tony, there are guys like Stefan Diggs, things like that. I'm sure he was not going to be a part of this organization. But really, truly, the one that makes the most sense is a high-volume catch guy over the years in Allen that has worked with Shane Steichen. before, too. The one thing I feel good about, I know I come on here and sound negative about the Colts all the time, but the one thing I really feel a Colts fan should feel good about is just what Daniel Jay Jones is accomplishing. Again, he's not playing against real teams and want to come at him, but coming back from that injury and that surgery and rehabbing, he has looked really good so far, but you're going to have to have support at wide receiver.

The other option you're going to have because we saw him get that extension last week, Tony, is you're going to have to put so much once again, and rightly so, on the shoulders of the best player on the team, and that's Jonathan Taylor. Going back, you're not wrong about Jonathan Taylor, and you're not wrong about you're going to need more from Tyler Warren, and I actually kind of dig our core of tight ends. But you mentioned Stefan Digg, you mentioned Keenan Allen, DeAndre Hopkins is still out there, I believe, and Tyree Kill, who still has speed, but no one's brought up his name. Yeah, yeah, I probably won't be. The natural connection here, Tony, is prior relationships. And you look at the Montgomery pickup they did just off the waiver wire yesterday. Yeah. You know, you're going to bring somebody in for camp that kind of knows the plays and stuff. So that's kind of been more of the focus, I think, and really, and despite going after the name recognizable guys, I think it is, you know, connections they've had previously that are probably making the most waves as to why you might bring somebody in. JMV, the Voice of Sports. I appreciate it, man. Tony Katz, 93, WIBC. Good morning. What is Toyota affordability? It's buying smart. Right now, your local Toyota dealer has great deals available on some of the most reliable trucks on the market, like the off-road ready Tacoma, rugged full-sized tundra, and legendary forerunner, each with the space, tech, and features to handle it all, from the work site to the trails. It means driving for less, with efficient hybrid options available, extending your overall driving range and delivering great MPGs, meaning bigger savings at the pump without sacrificing power. And it means trading for more. The Tacoma and Tundra are ranked number one and number two in resale value over all vehicles, according to Kelly Boo Book, which can mean thousands more than average right back in your pocket when it's time to trade in. That's Toyota affordability. Buy smart, drive for less, and trade for more. Shop Toyota.com or your local dealer for deals and details. Vehicles projected resale value is specific to the 2026 model year. For more information, visit Kelly Blue Books, KB.com. Toyota brand average resale value is 53% versus the average vehicle at 45%. Toyota, let's go. Let's go. We're remodeling. B-O-O-H-R, Buer Remodeling.com. Tony Katz 93 W-I-B-C. Good morning. Great to be with you, the popcorn moment. Let's go, let's go, let's go. Let's go. Let's go. It's a story you need to hear to believe, then grab your popcorn because there is more. We are also live streaming on the YouTube. Just go to WIBC and subscribe. The chat room is there. Most of the people are sober. It's amazing. Check it out for yourself. Get over to the chat. Go over to YouTube, WIBC.com or WIBC, I should say, on YouTube and make that happen. If you would, thank you so much.

It was the strangest bit of, let's pretend that what happened didn't happen by Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who has now taken to being super smiley. Oh, my gosh. And no matter what she talks about, she's just smiling. It's very, very creepy. It's, it's Zohran Mamdani creepy. We're going to tax everybody. We're going to take their money and we're going to out people. We're going to dox people. And socialism, good. And he does it with the smile where you're like, that dude owns a windowless van. Just all sorts of off-putting. But this, this quote, and you're going to be seeing it make the rounds, just out of control in its. Oh, you know all that stuff we did to you over the last five, six years about woke this and woke that? That was just a phase. I have a local city councilman that has this saying woke one was crazy. And I think that what's important is that we have to assess what a candidate is saying. Did the movement go too far with some of those positions? I mean, you briefly supported the idea of defunding the police. Did the movement go too far? Can we stop at the idea of woke one was crazy? If woke one was crazy, what the hell was woke two? And what makes anybody think there's a difference? She's trying to rebrand the thing like somehow that was then, living the now. Why are you talking about yesterday? Yesterday is still happening. All over the place. Do you see the word manipulation happening right in front of your eyes? Woke 1. Oh, that was then. Why are you talking about that stuff then? Why are you always talking about them? Why was it in the past? Why aren't you talking about now? Why are you talking about things happening now? Why are you talking about then? As we've talked about Anthony Fauci conversations have come up about Joe Biden. I've talked about some of these things and I put out these shorts and people are like, oh, sure, you're talking about Biden. That was years ago. No conversation of context. It makes me believe that people don't actually know what's going on. If you only watch certain things, you're never going to get a full and complete story. Thank goodness for talk radio, yet they attack me for actually giving the full and complete story, to which I say, don't care. What does it matter? You're going to scream at me on a Facebook page. Good on you. Your mother must be very proud. And you can ask her if you just walk upstairs out of the basement while she's making your grilled cheese with the crust cut off because she doesn't want to hear the yelling if there's crusts.

I mean, that's a mouthful of a statement there. They ruined lives, they attacked people, the vitriol, all of it. And then when asked about defund the police or other things, check it out. You know, I think, I think that... During this time and during, especially during COVID, there was a huge opening of the Overton window. We were shut down. There was some of the highest unemployment rates that we have seen because of those shutdowns. And I think that. the doors were really open in trying to entertain any and every policy that was going to get us to a better place. And I actually think that the discussions that were had in that time were quite fruitful. I think that when we talk about crime today, it's fundamentally different than the way that we talked about crime in bringing crime down, right? You want to defund the police. You want to have a riotous society. And rational people don't. Why not just say we never let a crisis go to waste? Because it allowed us to do things we couldn't normally do. That was Rahm Emanuel back in the Barack Obama days. But she mentions the Overton window. The Overton window is this idea that there's a range of subjects that are acceptable. and those are the subjects within the overton window and the subjects that aren't acceptable are outside this and the american people will only accept the things inside the window and the window does indeed move because culture moves things around So you're saying that you utilize the crisis in COVID to be able to talk about more government interference and more government largesse. You were able to utilize the George Floyd riots to which George Floyd wasn't killed by police. He was killed by being a drug user, even though I think that what's his name? Chauvin should absolutely be in jail for his actions as an officer on that day. Let's take advantage of this and now let's get into the idea that the police are the problem, not the actual criminal. We shouldn't remove the criminal. We shouldn't remove the illegal immigrant. It is always the cop and we need to find new and inventive ways to allow the criminal to go free. This is your argument that the Overton window has moved and it's better for us. It is exactly who these people are. They went about ruining lives. They engaged the radicalness. Now they believe that the radicalness has become mainstream, which it hasn't. And they decide, well, we're on to the new thing now. You shouldn't be talking about yesterday so much. Oh, no, you should be talking about yesterday today and tomorrow.

Remember what these people did to you. Don't ever give them power. Election Day is November 3rd. She can't be allowed to win because the smile is adorable. It's what's behind it. That's so absolutely frightening. What is Toyota affordability? It's buying smart. Right now, your local Toyota dealer has great deals available on some of the most reliable trucks on the market, like the off-road ready to coma, rugged full-sized tundra, and legendary forerunner, each with the space, tech, and features to handle it all, from the work site to the trails. It means driving for less, with efficient hybrid options available, extending your overall driving range and delivering great MPGs, meaning bigger savings at the pump without sacrificing power. And it means trading for more. The Tacoma and Tundra are ranked number one and number two in resale value over all vehicles, according to Kelly Boo Book, which can mean thousands more than average right back in your pocket when it's time to trade in. That's Toyota affordability. Buy smart, drive for less, and trade for more. ShopToyota.com or your local dealer for deals and details. Vehicles projected resale value is specific to the 2026 model year. For more information, visit Kelly Blue Books, KB.com. Toyota brand average resale value is 53% versus the average vehicle at 45%. Toyota, let's go places. Today on the marketplace, finally, a moose. Tony Katz, 93 WIBC. Guys, good to be with you. During downtime, and I'm clearing my head. I'm getting ready for what's next on the program. I find myself on Facebook Marketplace. Cool stuff, odd stuff, weird stuff, strange stuff. It is all there on the Marketplace. The Marketplace segment brought to you by Indianaunclaimed.gov. It is your cash. Go get it, Indiana Unclaimed.gov, fast, easy, free to use as well, which is kind of awesome. You have money waiting for you. It's a final paycheck, dividend, refund. I don't know why you've got it, but you do. It is there. And you can get it, Indianaunclaimed.gov. I was mine to my own business. And lately, my, I looked once, I have a, a friend, the guy I know, a person of, of, of, of note. And it's very into the, um, card collectible world. You know, uh, uh, baseball cards, those kinds of things, basketball and their things to look for. And there's a whole subculture to this and there's a tremendous amount of money. It changes hands in this. I'm like, that's fascinating. So I was just, okay, so look for this and look for that. Okay. I'm always curious as to how people do it. And now my, my, my Facebook feed, because algorithms do what algorithms do, is flooded with us. Just absolutely positively flooded with this on the marketplace. So it's keeping me.

from being able to find some other things. Luckily, I was able to find a giant moose. That's not what a moose sounds like. Oh, I thought you said moo. No. No, no, no, no. If I said I had found a giant moo, that would have queued the Rosie O'Donnell jokes. Huh? It's funny because people say it is. Someone in Carmel, because of course it's Carmel, is selling a very large stuffed toy moose for a child's room or decor, and it comes from Melissa and Doug. Now, I'll give you what I love about this, a little bit of imagery here, about this said moose. What I love about this said moose is that if you look at the photo, if you just take a wee bit of a look at the photo, what you will find is that when the people posted it, they put it out front of their house and they certainly didn't sweep up. And, and so they post it. It's got a photo. It's there. It's in front of like the front door, the front door may, I don't know, maybe it's a storage store. I don't know, whatever it is. And on the door, a huge streak of bird crap. Just this, I don't know if you can see it. You got to change it on the live stream there, producer Carl. You got to move it over a little. Just a huge, huge streak. And it's like, that's is the, is the moose trying to eat that? Trying to what exactly is the moose? How much in proximity? Did the moose rub up against it? Because I believe that would bring down the value. The value of the giant moose, by the way, according to the people selling it from Carmel is $95. Producer Carl, you have you have babies. Would they or would they not love a giant? I didn't say you should bring the babies with you. I don't want to hear the baby, right? I just want to see said baby. That's all. Just want to see said baby. Don't want to hear it. Also don't want to hear about the pain. You know, it's full bill parcels. Don't tell me about the pain. Just show me the baby. That's right. Would you spend $95 on this toy for your little bum bambino? I think it would scare her. You think so? Giant moose? Yeah. Can't go wrong with giant moose. I think he can. No. Oh, you don't understand.

It's $95. I'm a no, mainly because of the bird crap front door. You got to be aware of your surroundings, people. Need to be aware. It's there for you, though. You can check it out for yourself. We have the full listing at WIBC.com. Tony Katz 93 WIBC. Good morning. There was a story. that Ryan Hedrick did is the top of the first hour, top of the 6 a.m. hour. I know some of you are not awake. Some of you are awake for the first time because kids are going back to school. Tony Katz 93 WIBC. Good morning. Great to be with you. I should remind you that not only are we in back to school season, right? Everybody is going back. Everybody is going back. We are also. officially in election season. My God, okay, it's happening. Everybody, stay calm. What's the procedure, everyone? What's the procedure? Say, fuck! What's the procedure? What's going on? Holy crap, I am freaking out. It's very true. It's happening. I went down too quickly. There was. And there's nothing I can do about it. All I can do is try my best to help guide us through it so we survive, come out the other end, haven't lost the country, and then can have a beverage. Like that's it. But Ryan Hedrick forgot his name for a second. You know, Marconi Award nominated Ryan Hedrick. He was doing a story about graduation rates. There was a story about how. A school is back in session, and they're expecting to do good things at IPS. And graduation rates are up, and this is wonderful. And I understand how people will focus on graduation rates. The problem is, And forgive me for being so clearheaded on this. We all understand that graduation rates mean nothing, right? They mean nothing. Now, I understand how there are going to be some people who are going to say to me, Tony, you're just being negative. You would say this about anything. You just hate this. There are some things. I take that back that I do indeed hate. I'm a normal human being. There are certainly things that I am disgusted by, but I'm engaged in the rational pursuit. A graduation rate means nothing if the kid cannot read, if the kid cannot write, if the kid cannot do algebra, they mean zero. The graduation rate doesn't tell us anything. If we were to take a look at where they are in terms of proficiency, if we were to take a look at the idea of where they are in reading and the writing and the arithmetic, wouldn't that tell us more?

Wouldn't that show us more? Wouldn't that explain more of where we're at other than a graduation rate? Because we have seen that graduation is often a social conversation to which you just move them out and move along. Doesn't mean that they have any skills. It doesn't mean that they're capable. It doesn't mean that we haven't just sent them out into the world completely incapable of survival. That's the story. That's the story. Can they read? Can they write? Can they do math? What is our academic success? This is Indianapolis Public Schools. You can, this may not be the most up-to-date data, right? I'm willing to give on that for sure. Our proficiency on middle elementary and middle school students at testing at or above proficient levels in reading math, reading a math that's 22 to 23%. We're less than one and four. Don't tell me about graduation rates. This is my point. We're looking at the wrong data and we need to look at the right data. My argument for doing away with teachers unions. is the argument that the teacher's union is not focused on the teacher. The teacher's union is focused, I'm sorry, it's not focused on the students, focused on the teacher. That's correct. Teachers unions focus on teachers, not on students. The student is the afterthought. The institution exists for the sake of the institution, not what they claim that the institution exists for. The union does not exist for the student. Anybody who says otherwise is lying. It exists for the teacher. It exists for their dollars. It exists for their opportunities. The student is just the tool that is utilized as a cudgel, as an attack, as a weapon, in order to further enrich the union and its focus, which is the teacher. which is really actually the focus of the union. The teacher also being a quasi afterthought, but you don't know that until it's too late and you're already well into the cult. Graduation rates are meaningless. Can they read? Can they comprehend? Can they balance a checkbook? Do they know what investing is? Have they learned about compounding? What are the basics? Are we preparing them? And if we're focused on graduation rates, the answer is nope. We're not doing a damn thing, guys. We're not. The only thing that matters is the skill. Graduation rate is totally meaningless. Glad we had this talk. Same thing is true of this Wall Street Journal story about President Trump.

And about the next steps in Iran that Trump's grown tired of this and he's looking for an off ramp and Iran won't give him one because now they're demanding hundreds of billions of dollars in order to keep the straight open and Trump will probably pay it and he just wants out and he'll declare victory anyway because oil prices come down. I don't listen to the Wall Street Journal on stories like this. This is all speculative sources say. Sources say. Sources say that Matt bears a totally normal, well-adjusted human being, but you and I have heard him. We know that's not true. Sources say, I would have no reason to believe that he's grown tired of anything. He's now talking about, as he mentioned, to Axios, that he's going to low-key this. Just keep the economic pressure on. We'll get to them. They'll deal with it. They'll crack. This is what Major Mike Lyons, United States Army retired military analysts described as the siege mentality. I'm fine with that. Fine with it. But the idea that Iran gets to be in charge of anything is nuts. And you're going to have to deal with the IRGC and the factions of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps one way or another. Just stop telling us that you're negotiating. There is no negotiation. This is where we're at. Cracking these people, breaking these people, that is where it is at. And everything else is nonsense. Same concept. You could send me all the memorandums of understanding or deal memos. Who cares? Do IRGC members run for their life or get slaughtered by the Iranians or the Kurds? Only questions that matter. Did we blow up a headquarters? Yes or no? You're negotiating, Mr. President. I voted for you three times. I get to say anything I want. Stop it. Oh, and don't let JD Vance out in public anymore. Holy cow, that's not working out well. Kill these people or go home, but if you go home, deal with the fact that your legacy is done. Iran thinks of a centrifuge. They enrich any uranium. You are the guy who failed. Which is why I don't think he grows tired of anything because he knows this. Legacy means a lot to the guy. What is Toyota affordability? It all starts with buying smart, and your Toyota dealer has great deals available to qualified customers on reliable cars and SUVs, including the redesigned RAV-4, spacious Grand Highlander, sporty Camrys, and Corolla's. It means driving for less, with efficient hybrid and plug-in hybrid options available throughout the lineup, extending your overall driving range and delivering great MPGs, saving you money at the pump. And it means trading for more. Toyota is known for building long-lasting vehicles. And as the best resale value brand, according to Kelly Blue Book, your Toyota can be worth thousands more than average when it's time to trade in. That's Toyota affordability. Buy smart, drive for less, and trade for more. Shop Toyota.com or your local dealer for deals and details.

Vehicles projected resale value is specific to the 2026 model year. For more information, visit Kelly Blue Books KB.com. Toyota brand average resale value is 53% versus the average vehicle at 45%. Toyota, let's go places. Todd Blanche confirmed as the Attorney General, 50 to 49 was the vote. We figured that out on Tony Katz. Today on a Friday, the vote came just a little bit later. Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, voting against Todd Blanche since Mitch McConnell was not there. That brought it down to 50, but since Mitch McConnell was not a no vote, it brought the Democrats to 49. No tie break needed. Todd Blanche is confirmed. Tony Katz at 93. WIBC. Good morning. Why Lisa Murkowski voted no, it's because she's ridiculous. Why Susan Collins voted no is because she needed a gimmie in Maine. She had to show her independence. I don't think there's any question about such a thing. That's why it happened. I'm happy to see him in as Attorney General. Let us move forward. We will also, on Tony Katz today, get into the former army secretary who has lost their clearances for leaking information on Air Force One. We'll discuss that story and whether or not that should lead to serious consequences. And then there's President Trump saying that the war with Iran right now is low key. We'll keep the economic sanctions on. They'll come around. Of course, they can't have a nuclear weapon and we'll get the straight going. Sure. Sounds great to me. It's the siege mentality. Keep it up. I mean, I would also keep up the bombing, but keep it up. 10,000% keep that up. Yes, I wholeheartedly, wholeheartedly agree. Low key. It's a unique take. I would remind the president that every time you say we're close to a deal, you lose credibility. Stop talking about deals. Until Iran publicly comes to you and says, we're sorry this stays. This keeps up. The deal has to be made with the other countries in the region where they have to get their heads out of wherever their heads are and recognize that they have to be the ones who lead the charge in ending this regime because this regime, nuclear, is going to end all of them. And then there's actually something good that came out of the indie star. That's some delayed laughter. No, no, it did. It's good. Trust me, this is good. This is good. This is good. Thank you. They've got a list of eight pizza places to try. And their list is actually a solid list. They mixed it all around. Now, they didn't do some of the places that I think are staples. But here's their list, a pizza to try around town. Of course, they've got Basbo on the list. It makes all the list. I think they do a fine job. No issue with Basbo whatsoever. Then they've got, do I pronounce it, Diavola or Diavala?

I assume it's Diavala, which is on 54th. I do not think I have been there yet. I think that has to happen. Futuro. They get super fancy with their pizzas, Futuroindy.com. Again, fun, unique stuff. Georgios, right there downtown, right there on the circle, which you can go and grab the basic standard everyday slice. King Doe. Now that one's on Old Meridian. I think that if we're talking about a king dough pizza, shouldn't we also be discussing Greeks within there? Like, isn't that the same? No? Full disclosure, I do work with Greeks, but I do not own a Greeks. I do work with Greeks. The King Doe is on that list. That was the only one I was like, I've got no issue with King Doe. They have two locations. Grow big, grow strong. I was like, well, if that's the rate where we're going, does it put us in this other direction? Magoos California pizza, which is in Avon and one on 38th, I had not heard of. So someone's got to tell me whether or not Magoos is worth the time. Then there's Sam Square Pie, again, dealing in the ultra fancy. The ultra fancy, and they play in the Detroit style, which is... Think, going back to my Jersey roots, old school Sicilian, but it's cheese baked into the crust. So think of Chicago style, but cheese baked into the crust. Maybe that's the way they view it. No, I shouldn't say it Chicago style because that's a reversing. The Detroit style is more like a Sicilian style, but with cheese baked into the crust. That's the way to say it. And then, I try Mori, which is on 106th. It's not a bad list of places to go try and check things out and people trying cool stuff. Even if it's not like your slice, it's the idea of people being creative and good. More creativity, the better. The more Indianapolis gets back to we're a place to try things. We're a place where you can actually afford to experiment and there's an audience willing to try your experiment. They'll be very honest about what they think about the experiment. But they're willing to try in the experiment. I love it. I love it. It's a good list. It'll be on, I'll post it there on X. Finally. Good stuff from the indie star. I shouldn't say finally. I shouldn't say finally. They've done some good reporting in the past. And then they bring a whole bunch of nonsense through sports and so-called opinion, Sands Jacob Stewart. He's doing at least some opinion. It's a good pizza list. We'll just leave it at that. Tony Katz 93 WIBC. Good morning. So the question before us. Not so much about the Indiana State Fair, which is going on, and hopefully it goes well and no other issues, and the dollars pour in from it. Where else are the dollars pouring in? All to talk about the bears, that's gone silence. There's no real conversation about the new high-end manufacturing coming.

Hey, listen, I want the growth where I want the growth, and I do want it in entertainment. People want things that they can go and do and enjoy it. It seems that we are, and I could be wrong, in a bit of a stall. Am I? Tony Katz 93 WIBC. Good morning. Good to be with you. Gary Dick joins us from inside Indiana business.com on the Twitter X. You find him at IIB. Gary, the state fair is here. There is definitely a good economic impact, not just from the fair, but from the fairgrounds in general. Let's start there. What is it that we are expecting to see dollars and cents coming into the fair? Yeah, big, big dollars, Tony, and that's not necessarily a surprise. I tell you, you know, we all know the fair has been around for a long time. I found an interesting fun fact for you, I'll give you here on this Monday. In the history of the Indiana State Fair, 174 years, it has not been held only three times. once for COVID, once for World War II, and once for the Civil War. So it's been around for a long time, and it's changed obviously dramatically over the years. You talk economic impacts, $30 million plus in direct spending is the study that has been done on the Indiana State Fair, but more broadly, and you not talked about this before, the Fairgrounds has really transformed itself. into what they would describe as a year-round destination for meetings, events, tourism, holding events like an NCAA track and field championship at what was the Swine Barn, now the Fall Creek Pavilion, $50 million renovation at that facility. So it really has become a year-round generator of economic impact, important for Indianapolis and important for Indiana, too. And I don't say no. I like it. I want to see its growth. They're putting time and effort into this. I think it's terrific. But where are we as a state on growth, right? We lost some things with Toyota. We haven't heard about massive big investments coming in. You've got everybody in their mother fighting data centers, which to me is a huge amount of silliness and goes to the issue. We don't want data centers. What do we want? And then you get silence. We talked a lot about the bears coming and the bears coming and the bears are coming. And then there was a quasi announcement that the bears are coming. And now there's a possible second sight. We haven't heard anything. Is the take that Indiana is growing, or is the take that these first two years of the Braun administration have really stalled out our economic opportunities? You know, fair question, Tony. It really is. And I think there is a feeling in these, you know, first couple of years of concern about the trajectory of...

economic development and big economic development announcements what's the direction of the state's economic development program uh you look at the big announcements that have come uh over the past five six eight years and there were numerous ones in microelectronics in a number of a number of areas we have not necessarily seen as many of those although they are out there we saw last week a an opening, if you will, a christening of Toyota forklift in Columbus, a $100 million factory that expands and really dramatically increases their activity in Columbus. Another big area, Tony, that we're seeing is in defense and aerospace, Indiana getting a higher profile there. But back to your original question here, I think there is a feeling that perhaps. momentum has been lost or at least subsided a bit, I guess you could say, when it comes to economic development because of the big economic development deals that we're not seeing. So I think there is that feeling, whether there's truth to that or it actually is happening, remains to be seen. But there are events and activities that are happening. These are announcements that have been made, you know, were made earlier. a big microelectronics facility in West Lafayette near Purdue that continues to advance. I mentioned some of the defense and aerospace investment, L3 Harris in Fort Wayne, huge investment, and they look to benefit from the nations pushed toward more defense spending. So we are seeing that southern Indiana, the crane area, $600 million plus an investment expected private sector investment in and around crane at a new defense hub. Unitions campus that is underway there. So there are those announcements. There just is a feeling, I think, that there haven't been quite as many as in the recent past. And I think it feels that way because it is that way. So is in your view, I mean, this is asking your opinion here, and I am asking for it. Is Indiana in a better place, a worse place, or a mostly same place as it was two years ago? Again, fair question. And I think I really do think that remains to be seen. I think when the Brown administration came in, they came in touting a focus on Main Street business. And I think a number of people welcome that, thought, hey, that's good. You know, we're not going to necessarily focus on these big... high-profile major economic development deals. We're going to really focus on Main Street businesses. And the question I got from a lot of business people is, what is a Main Street business? And can a quote-unquote Main Street business really propel the economy in the direction that we all want it to be and to grow at the level that I think you're talking about? Tony going forward. And I think that remains an unanswered question. I think the administration, the broad administration, has done a lot of work to kind of try to allay those fears that we're not as a state focusing on big economic development deals. And the direction is not one that is going to produce.

some big results. And I think, frankly, there's been some concern that from a competitive standpoint, perhaps we have lost to the low ground in terms of some neighboring states in economic development deals and what site selection consultants are going to say. I would say that the broad administration would certainly push back on that and bring some data that would refute that. But I think there is that feeling in the business community. Gary Dick, we're going to dig more into this in the weeks ahead. Inside Indiana Business.com. I appreciate you. Todd Blanche confirmed as the Attorney General, 50 to 49 was the vote. We figured that out on Tony Katz. Today on a Friday, the vote came just a little bit later. Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, voting against Todd Blanche since Mitch McConnell was not there. That brought it down to 50, but since Mitch McConnell was not a no vote, it brought the Democrats to 49. No tie break needed. Todd Blanche is confirmed. Tony Katz at 93. WIBC. Good morning. Why Lisa Murkowski voted no, it's because she's ridiculous. Why Susan Collins voted no is because she needed a gimmie in Maine. She had to show her independence. I don't think there's any question about such a thing. That's why it happened. I'm happy to see him in as Attorney General. Let us move forward. We will also, on Tony Katz today, get into the former Army Secretary who has lost their clearances for leaking information on Air Force One. We'll discuss that story and whether or not that should lead to serious consequences. And then there's President Trump saying that the war with Iran right now is low key. We'll keep the economic sanctions on. They'll come around. Of course, they can't have a nuclear weapon and we'll get the straight going. Sure. Sounds great to me. It's the siege mentality. Keep it up. I mean, I would also keep up the bombing, but keep it up. 10,000% keep that up. Yes, I wholeheartedly, wholeheartedly agree. Low key, it's a unique take. I would remind the president that every time you say we're close to a deal, you lose credibility. Stop talking about deals. Until Iran publicly comes to you and says, we're sorry this stays. This keeps up. The deal has to be made with the other countries in the region where they have to get their heads out of wherever their heads are and recognize that they have to be the ones who lead the charge in ending this regime because this regime, nuclear, is going to end all of them. And then there's actually something good that came out of the indie star. That's some delayed laughter. No, no, it did. It's good. Trust me, this is good. This is good. This is good. Thank you. They've got a list of eight pizza places to try.

And their list is actually a solid list. They mixed it all around. Now, they didn't do some of the places that I think are staples. But here's their list, a pizza to try around town. Of course, they've got Basbo on the list. It makes all the list. I think they do a fine job. No issue with Basbo whatsoever. Then they've got, do I pronounce it, Diavola or Diavala? I assume it's Diavala, which is on 54th. I do not think I have been there yet. I think that has to happen. Futuro. They get super fancy with their pizzas, Futuroindy.com. Again, fun, unique stuff. Georgios, right there downtown, right there on the circle, which you can go and grab the basic standard everyday slice. King Doe. Now that one's on Old Meridian. I think that if we're talking about a King Doe pizza, shouldn't we also be discussing Greeks within there? Like, isn't that the same? No? Full disclosure, I do work with Greeks, but I do not own a Greeks. I do work with Greeks. The King Doe is on that list. That was the only one I was like, I've got no issue with King Doe. They have two locations. Grow big, grow strong. I was like, well, if that's the rate where we're going, does it put us in this other direction? Magoos California pizza, which is in Avon and one on 38th, I had not heard of. So someone's got to tell me whether or not Magoos is worth the time. Then there's Sam Square Pie, again, dealing in the ultra fancy. The ultra fancy, and they play in the Detroit style, which is... Think, going back to my Jersey roots, old school Sicilian, but it's cheese baked into the crust. So think of Chicago style, but cheese baked into the crust. Maybe that's the way they view it. No, I shouldn't say it Chicago style because that's a reversing. The Detroit style is more like a Sicilian style, but with cheese baked into the crust. That's the way to say it. And then, I try Mori, which is on 106th. It's not a bad list of places to go try and check things out and people trying cool stuff. Even if it's not like your slice, it's the idea of people being creative and good. More creativity, the better. The more Indianapolis gets back to we're a place to try things. We're a place where you can actually afford to experiment and there's an audience willing to try your experiment. They'll be very honest about what they think about the experiment. But they're willing to try in the experiment. I love it. I love it. It's a good list. It'll be on, I'll post it there on X. Finally. Good stuff from the indie store. I shouldn't say finally. I shouldn't say finally. They've done some good reporting in the past. And then they bring a whole bunch of nonsense through sports and so-called opinion, Sands Jacob Stewart. He's doing at least some opinion. It's a good pizza list. We'll just leave it at that. Tony Katz 93 WIBC. Good morning. So the question before us.

Not so much about the Indiana State Fair, which is going on, and hopefully it goes well and no other issues, and the dollars pour in from it. Where else are the dollars pouring in? All to talk about the bears, that's gone silence. There's no real conversation about new high-end manufacturing coming. Hey, listen, I want the growth where I want the growth, and I do want it in entertainment. People want things that they can go and do and enjoy it. It seems that we are, and I could be wrong, in a bit of a stall. Am I? Tony Katz 93 WIBC. Good morning. Good to be with you. Gary Dick joins us from inside indiana business.com on the Twitter X. You find him at IIB. Gary, the state fair is here. There is definitely a good economic impact, not just from the fair, but from the fairgrounds in general. Let's start there. What is it that we are expecting to see dollars and cents coming into the fair? Yeah, big, big dollars, Tony, and that's not necessarily a surprise. I tell you, you know, we all know the fair has been around for a long time. I found an interesting fun fact for you, I'll give you here on this Monday. In the history of the Indiana State Fair, 174 years, it has not been held only three times. once for COVID, once for World War II, and once for the Civil War. So it's been around for a long time, and it's changed, obviously, dramatically over the years. You talk economic impact, $30 million plus in direct spending is the study that has been done on the Indiana State Fair, but more broadly, and you and I've talked about this before, the Fairgrounds has really transformed itself. into what they would describe as a year-round destination for meetings, events, tourism, holding events like an NCAA track and field championship at what was the Swine Barn, now the Fall Creek Pavilion, $50 million renovation at that facility. So it really has become a year-round generator of economic impact, important for Indianapolis and important for Indiana, too. And I don't say no. I like it. I want to see its growth. They're putting time and effort into this. I think it's terrific. But where are we as a state on growth, right? We lost some things with Toyota. We haven't heard about massive big investments coming in. You've got everybody in their mother fighting data centers, which to me is a huge amount of silliness and goes to the issue of... We don't want data centers. What do we want? And then you get silence. We talked a lot about the bears coming and the bears coming. The bears are coming. Then there was a quasi announcement that the bears are coming. And now there's a possible second sight. We haven't heard anything.

Is the take that Indiana is growing, or is the take that these first two years of the Braun administration have really stalled out our economic opportunities? You know, for a question, Tony, it really is. And I think there is a feeling in these, you know, first couple of years of concern about the trajectory of... economic development and big economic development announcements what's the direction of the state's economic development program uh you look at the big announcements that have come uh over the past five six eight years and there were numerous ones in microelectronics in a number of a number of areas we have not necessarily seen as many of those although they are out there we saw last week a an opening, if you will, a christening of Toyota forklift in Columbus, $100 million factory that expands and really dramatically increases their activity in Columbus. Another big area, Tony, that we're seeing is in defense and aerospace, Indiana getting a higher profile there. But back to your original question, I think there is a feeling that perhaps. momentum has been lost or at least subsided a bit, I guess you could say, when it comes to economic development because of the big economic development deals that we're not seeing. So I think there is that feeling, whether that is, there's truth to that or it actually is happening, remains to be seen. But there are events and activities that are happening. These are announcements that have been made, you know, were made earlier. a big microelectronics facility in West Lafayette near Purdue that continues to advance. I mentioned some of the defense and aerospace investment, L3 Harris in Fort Wayne, huge investment, and they look to benefit from the nations pushed toward more defense spending. So we are seeing that southern Indiana, the crane area, $600 million plus an investment expected private sector investment in and around crane at a new defense hub. Unitions campus that is underway there. So there are those announcements. There just is a feeling, I think, that there haven't been quite as many as in the recent past. And I think it feels that way because it is that way. So is in your view, I mean, this is asking your opinion here, and I am asking for it, is Indiana in a better place, a worse place, or a mostly same place as it was two years ago? Again, fair question. And I think I really do think that remains to be seen. I think when the Brown administration came in, they came in touting a focus on Main Street business. And I think a number of people welcome that, thought, hey, that's good. You know, we're not going to necessarily focus on these big... high-profile major economic development deals. We're going to really focus on Main Street businesses. And the question I got from a lot of business people is, what is a Main Street business? And can a quote-unquote Main Street business really propel the economy in the direction that we all want it to be and to grow at the level that I think you're talking about?

Tony going forward. And I think that remains an unanswered question. I think the administration, the broad administration, has done a lot of work to kind of try to allay those fears that we're not as a state focusing on big economic development deals. And the direction is not one that is going to produce. some big results. And I think, frankly, there's been some concern that from a competitive standpoint, perhaps we have lost to the low ground in terms of some neighboring states in economic development deals and what site selection consultants are going to say. I would say that the broad administration would certainly push back on that and bring some data that would refute that. But I think there is that feeling in the business community. Gary Dick, we're going to dig more into this in the weeks ahead. Inside Indiana Business.com. I appreciate you. All right. Let's see where we're at, shall we? And Dow futures are down 57. Not bad at all. NASDAQ futures down 16. That's nothing. Nothing. Iran wants to get tougher on the Strait of Hormuz. Trump's saying, okay, we'll get tougher on the economics. You have a nice day. And here is where we sit. Not shocked, not surprised. Oil prices are up. $79.32 on the West Texas crude, $84.77 on the Brent crude. Where we're at right now, and certainly don't see that going down anytime soon without a major concession. or surrender from the Iranians, 10-year treasury at 4.664 hurting the real estate market. Gold at $430 an ounce. That's up 300 bucks in the last week. Silver at $63.80 an ounce. And Bitcoin right now comes in at 64,888. That is not really moved in the slightest. I had stated that the gas price conversation had to be solved by summer because that's when people start making up their minds about midterms. And we are certainly in midterm season and it's here. It is going to be the dominant subject between now and election day. right election day is november 3rd i know this because i'm pretty sure i need to go on vacation starting november 5th which i may very well do by the way um i don't know if i bc is ready for that but oh yeah yeah i as i see it uh between now and election day like like i've got a i've got one more day off in the in in august i think it's one more and then i know i'm going to have one day off for like a jewish holiday in september but I think I'm straight on through until the election. Because like this is it. This is what you get paid for, people. This is the moment. And then after that, I don't know about you. I think everyone's going to need a decompression. This is going to be an intense election season. I feel bad about it. I'm going to try and keep it as light as humanly possible.

But the madness might just drive people mad. I had said that without the oil prices down, without the gas prices down, it's good people are going to make decisions. It's not going to be good for the Republican Party. That was the right thing to say. That was the right analysis. Can I tell you that I don't know if that's true right now? And you say to me what, all of a sudden, Tony, people don't care about gas prices because you're conservative? No, no, no. People absolutely care about gas prices and they don't like the high of them right now. Just like we talk about with grocery prices and they don't like how high they are right now. I believe that to be the case and I made the, I make the argument. I made the argument on Friday when we were talking about these people screaming at Turning Point USA members about the cost of a burrito. A They're discussing the cost of everyday things and the political right is yelling at them. It's too dumb for words. A little bit of recognition. Now, if you're doing DoorDash four days a week, you're a fool. You can't afford to do DoorDash four days a week. No one can. You're a fool and you're being lazy. If you're questioning why a burrito costs so much, that's pretty rational. And we should discuss those things. Right? That's where we should be. These economic things, of course, matter. Why is it that when I look at polling, the amalgam, it doesn't show that in the polling. What it shows is that Democrats are not in any way building. They're not, they should be running away with this. And that is not what we're seeing. Now that could all change. Now that we're really into season, we could see people getting a little more focused. Kids are going back to school. Now they're thinking about these things. Certainly you have some races that don't look great for Republicans. You've got James Talarico leading Ken Paxton by four points. Ken Paxton is a hard put. A guy's an unlikable cat. Telerico's just a weirdo. in a state where you've got Greg Abbott doing better than the Democrat. Like there's a lot happening in a lot of states, but you don't see any runaway. I wonder if that's going to change. And part of the reason you don't see a runaway is because while these cost things are real things, the left has shown themselves to be out of their heads. They're out of their minds with the communism, with the, oh, yeah, we screwed the country over on COVID and woke and George Floyd, but that was then and this is now. Oh, no, I don't leave Trump out of not doing enough to tamp down Anthony Fauci. Oh, wrong for giving up control to the doctors. Absolutely. Absolutely. But the doctors lied. And now I've got Democrats supporting the lying doctors. It doesn't make any sense. We're supposed to say you're not supposed to lie. And I think Americans pick up on that. And when I take a look at the latest polling of the generic ballot. And the generic ballot because of one very, very strange poll that has Democrats up plus 11, it shows the Democrats up plus 7. That's what it shows. The generic congressional vote has Democrats up plus 7.

I will remind people that the same pollsters had Abdul El-Sayed winning in Michigan by 13 plus points. And he won that primary by one. Maybe there's an overreed going on? Maybe. Maybe the real disgust from these weirdos is indeed real? That's what we're going to start digging into. Not what the poll numbers are, but what the polls actually say. Where people are and what shots Republicans have to still win this, which I think are many. They'd listen to me back in February. They'd be well ahead. But are we really going to walk into a midterm where gas prices aren't going to be the decider? Maybe. It's going to be a good, good couple months. We're going to do it together. I'm looking forward to it. Tony Katz 93, WIBC. Good morning. What is Toyota affordability? It's buying smart. Right now, your local Toyota dealer has great deals available on some of the most reliable trucks on the market, like the off-road ready Tacoma, rugged, full-sized tundra, and legendary forerunner, each with the space, tech, and features to handle it all. from the work site to the trails. It means driving for less, with efficient hybrid options available, extending your overall driving range and delivering great MPGs, meaning bigger savings at the pump without sacrificing power. And it means trading for more. The Tacoma and Tundra are ranked number one and number two in resale value over all vehicles, according to Kelly Boo Book, which can mean thousands more than average right back in your pocket when it's time to trade in. That's Toyota affordability. Buy smart, drive for less, and trade for more. Shop Toyota.com or your local dealer for deals and details. Vehicles projected resale value is specific to the 2026 model year. For more information, visit Kelly BlueBookskb.com. Toyota brand average resale value is 53% versus the average vehicle at 45%. Toyota, let's go places.