The Rod and Greg Show: Midterms a Contest of Flaws; Update on Latest Jobs Report

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I took the M&Ms, the Air Force One M&Ms. Do you have the Air Force One M&Ms? I don't care. I was shameless. I alluded to place. Napkins, notepads. I took it all. Absolutely. That's what you do. In fact, I'll tell you guys, there was a scandal a few years ago because it's kind of a known thing that press will basically swipe whatever they can get their hands on. And Greg. And, yeah. And so there was actually an issue with it. I think it was under Biden, maybe in 2020. where when they be plain, they made the press open up their back. There are these stories of longtime correspondents holding dinners at their homes up in, you know, Friendship Heights or Chevy Chase, you know, one of these luxurious areas around Washington, having a dinner party with a full-on-China set from Air Force One because just little by little, they would swipe a dessert plate or a salad plate or a dinner plate. And... It's like, okay, guys, you're pilfering from the American people. At some point, there is, it's no longer negligible when you have stolen eight full China sets, okay? I feel so much better about myself. I was never that bad, ever. Oh, it's just the American way. All right, Amanda, let's talk about the 2026 midterms coming up. You characterize it as America's unpopularity contest. What do you see taking place here in November right now? Yeah, so, you know, I. It's been a long time. Like since before I was even in politics, I feel like that the midterms have been about which party has the best ideas. And that's because we have moved into this era, especially in the last 10 or 20 years, where... the approval rating for both parties on Capitol Hill and Congress in general has sunk so low that no one really feels like Republicans or Democrats, even if they have good ideas, people don't trust them that they're actually going to enact them. But what's amazing to me and what emerged to me after I finish this story is that not only is it an unpopularity contest, it's, you know, a choice of the lesser of two evils. But the interesting thing is that, you know, President Trump having won the Oval Office, Republicans winning the House, Democrats having the Senate, and President Trump winning the popular vote, this was the midterm for Democrats to be able to force a swing in the other direction. And we know that this happens historically after a presidential election. The midterms after that is when the party switch or the control of Congress switches. The only notable exceptions of that in the last few decades was after 9-11. And I think that that was frankly because the American people just felt like making a change at that point would rock the boat and they wanted to make sure that you have the same captain in charge. But that's typically how it goes. So Republicans shouldn't even be in the conversation. But if you look at the generic ballot polling. It's not one of these cases where it's like, oh, Democrats are going to completely wipe the floor with Republicans. So Republicans shouldn't even be in the conversation, but you look at the policies of Democrats right now. You look at their policies on, let's just say, the economy. We all remember Bidenomics, and when people relate to Democrat policies on economics, they are reflecting back to what the economy was under Joe Biden. And that's not a good reflection for Democrats.

But you look at what they have now. I mean, America's most iconic Democrat cities, cities like Los Angeles and New York. What are they doing? They've got Pietitare and basically wealth taxes on people. So that has become, you know, this economic ethos for Democrats. So that's the economic department. Let's look at the social department. In the social department, as we saw on Capitol Hill today, when they were trying to hold Anthony Fauci, they were trying to vote to hold Anthony Fauci in contempt of Congress. You have Republicans who were continuously trying to bring forth procedural votes, unnecessary procedural votes, to try to block it from happening. You've got Democrats who are highly in support of trans rights and pushing men into women's sports and boys into girls' locker rooms. So on the social side, it's like, all right, well, Democrats aren't really faring too well on that. On foreign policy, I think that's the only area where Democrats have a little bit of leeway, and it's only because Americans in general are growing fatigued with the conflict with Iran. But it's not because, again, it's not because Democrats have great ideas about it. It's just because it's basically on par with Republicans. So practically every major category, whether you're looking at interior policy or exterior foreign policy, Democrats just don't have the good. So Republicans shouldn't even be in the conversation, but the fact that Democrats have no competitive ideas is forcing this conversation about, okay, well, maybe Republicans will actually keep the House. And then you have, you know, what also is helping Republicans is the issue of redistricting or as Democrats would call it gerrymandering. Of course, depending on who's talking about it, and depending on which party they're talking about, it's either gerrymandering or redistricting. But Republicans, you know, likely will have these extra seats going into the midterms. That's going to help them a little bit. The whole fiasco in Virginia really revealed what Democrats are trying to do with respect to basically stealing seats in Congress. So it's going to be an interesting midterm. But, again, I do think it's an issue of who is the least unpopular going into November. Amanda, thank you. The leaped unpopular will win. Vote for me. I'm the least unpopular. Socialists, get rid of the Supreme Court, get rid of the executive branch, the president. I mean, I... Yeah, Cohn the Big Hunter. It might be the least popular. All right, more coming up. Rod and Greg with you on this Friday afternoon on Utah's Talk Radio 1059, KNRS. You and I have had discussions about this in the past, Greg, about, is it fair to compare what happened in 2010, the Tea Party? What was 2009, 2010, basically? You and I were in the thick of that. and comparing it to the socialist movement we see within the Democratic Party today.

You can compare the tremors, the seismic shifts within a political party. I think that is comparable. I think that's where the comparison ends. Well, joining us on our newsmaker line to talk more about this is Daniel Lipinski, a former congressman, now a distinguished visiting fellow at the Hoover Institution there at Stanford University. Daniel, thanks for joining the Rod and Greg Show. Good to have you on this afternoon. Well, it's going to be with you. Is the appeal similar? Are there similarities between these two movements, do you feel? Well, the similarity is that it is fueled by Republicans back in 2009 and 10 who were really concerned about President Obama. Being in office, Democrats having control of Congress. They're scared about the future. We just, we were in the Great Recession. They're fearful for where the country was going. They were angry at their party leadership, saw them as feckless against the Democrats. I think that's how what we are seeing today in the Democratic Party is similar. Back in those days, the Tea Party rode this wave. Now, unfortunately, because it's bad, not just for a Democratic Party, it's bad for the country. The socialist, specifically the DSA, is just riding this wave. It's not that all these Democrats have become socialist. And the party has moved too far left for me. I... I'm a Democrat. I call myself an independent Democrat. I vote for the candidate, not the party, certainly more moderate. But those are the similarities. And the point of my piece in the Wall Street Journal was that we can't just assume that the DSA, the socialists, are not going to take over the Democratic Party. If they do, we can't assume that they're necessarily going to lose because The Republican Party, we don't know what's going to happen after Donald Trump. And there's a lot of soul searching going on in the Republican Party, too. We don't know the economy. We don't know what's going to happen if Iran. Do we need to be concerned about this, about this rise of the socialist? I think you bring up a good point. And I think that where you warned in your column in the Wall Street Journal that your colleagues in Congress, the Democrats are going, they're cuckoo. Like, this is the greatest thing to happen to us because those Republicans can't win. They're just too far out there, but they did win. And you saw that movement go on. I could point if memory serves to some moments where you saw that the coalescing of the Tea Party per se. The Great Recession was really, you know, the bailouts that came, you know, too big to fail. There was a lot of, there was a role that government was playing in preventing some of these Bear Stearns could go bankrupt, but Goldman Sachs doesn't. You saw all that happening. Then you had Obamacare Pass. Are there moments like that, just things that are happening that might have been out of the ordinary in American politics that I see for the Tea Party that are similar here with the Democrat Socialists, where they're coalescing now? What moments?

are causing them to come together like I think there were moments that brought the Tea Party together. Well, go back and say, I voted against the bailout then. I voted against Obamacare as a Democrat back in those days. Well, then you're smart. What were you doing as Democrat? That sounds so smart. I'm just going to agree. I appreciate that. I think right now it's... A lot of concern. Some of it is about AI in the future of what are jobs going to be in America. We're getting mixed signal right now on the economy today. Bad job numbers. You know, inflation has continued to be a problem under President Trump as it started under Biden. There's just a lot of economic concern, a lot of economic uncertainty. I think that's driving a lot of this movement. And unfortunately, there's a lot. A lot of young people who don't really know what socialism is. They don't understand that socialism has always failed. And they don't really understand America. And I think that's a failure. I used to be a college professor. And a lot of my colleagues, I... think that they were not teaching young people what they really need to know and appreciate about this country, about capitalism, and what makes America great. I appreciate that. I thought. I want to pick up on that because one of the differences I see between the Tea Party and what's going on today is while the Tea Party was upset, they still believed in the traditional values of America. On the other side of things with the DSA now, I think they just want to burn the whole thing down. And I think that's the key difference between the two movements. Is it not, Daniel? No, I think you are right. Although some of the... Some of the more radical voices, certainly with the Tea Party, I mean, we're also wanting to burn everything down. I think there was a sense of burning everything down, cheering everything down with the Tea Party. But it wasn't really that as serious as, unfortunately, the DSA is. The DSA is crazy. But I think that's a small number of Democrats. The problem is that they have influence in the party. You have Democratic. candidates who are scared by the DSA, they're sort of offending the DSA. And that, I mean, that's been going on for 10 years. The party's been moving further left, which has been a major, a major problem. And that's part of my concern.

So, and this is what's interesting because what I think you're saying is that it might not be, so the Tea Party, whatever their issues were, it was really people were voting against the status quo and maybe voting for a change. And so maybe the Tea Party saw more support or success than would have been predicted. My worry is or my thoughts are, when you look at the race in Michigan and this Abdul El-Sayed, he spent $7 million on that Senate race, the opponent that got all the establishment money from the Democrats, the Democrat Party, I think it's $56 million. And so usually money is the mother's milk to a successful campaign. 56 million or 53 million to 7 million. What's happening there? Because it seems like that, in other words, how are they going to pull the radical DSA into the norms of the Democrat Party? If all the Democrat money and all the attempts can't really, can't really defeat a candidate like Abdul El-Sayed in Michigan. Well, you know, I know that's from my own experience. I was knocked out in the primary in 2020. The left has the real fire in the Democratic parties with the progressive, you know, the DSA. And those are the people who are out there actively working on the ground. And also, in the primary, the... You know, the voters are more extreme in both parties. It's not the more moderate Americans, but I think represent the majority. I mean, in both parties, it's the primary elections that are a problem. And look, Abdul El-Sayed, he didn't even hit 50 percent in the primary. I don't know how he can win. If he can't hit 50 percent in Democratic primary, I don't know how he wins. the general election, unless things really go south for the Republicans in a major way. So I was actually, you know, I think Haley Stevens, who is the candidate who just nearly was defeated in that Michigan primary, I think she would have been a much, much better, by far. She's a good, pragmatic Democrat. I think... I think Mike Rogers is very likely going to – Republican is going to win that race in Michigan. It's a seat that the Democrats could have maintained, and they're probably going to lose it. Just like in 2010, you saw New Hampshire, Nevada. Those were races in 2010, a huge Republican landslide that Republicans lost because of the candidates that were nominated by the Tea Party. Good point. Daniel, great to have you on the show. Love to have you back out again. Thanks for your time. Great discussion. Enjoy the weekend. Thank you. All right. All right. You too. All right. Join in us on our newsmaker line. Daniel Lopinski made some very good points. Going to be interesting to see what happens. More parallels than I would have guessed, actually. Yeah. I still think the Democrat Socialists, if they can't even take the oath of office because they can't defend a constitution because they want to actually tear it up. If I were running, that would be the candidate. I would love to run against.

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that are trying to, they sound to me like the people, the apologist for Biden and his administration where the economy's doing so well, you're just not sophisticated enough to appreciate it. I don't think that's the case. I think people are feeling the strains of how expensive things are, the cost of living and what they're making in wages. So tell me this. What can we look for for good news in terms of are we going to see job growth? Do we need the Iranian conflict to be resolved? to start to see things recover. What are the telltale signs and a mixed bag of things that we can take and say this is actually good for the everyday people? So a lot to unpack there. So I do think you're right, though, in terms of the war in Iran has got to be resolved for a number of things to start feeling better for a lot of people. And the main component there is going to be. the price of oil will go down consistently, not just as a knee-jerk reaction to the thought that the war is going to end. But the war actually gets resolved, and it gets resolved favorably in terms of the Strait of Hormuz being opened, there's about a $5 a gallon premium in oil and has been for close to 50 years because Iran was controlling that. You remove that. Price of oil is going to come down substantially. for a long period of time, which means the price of gas is going to come down, and other oil components, jet fuel, heating oil, things like that. And that's going to, you know, spread out through all areas of the economy. Milton Friedman used to say that there's long and variable lags to when the Fed moves because... there can be a knee-jerk reaction. But if the price of oil comes down, you're going to see companies that are dealing with the price of gas in terms of their delivery trucks. And that's going to help them price and produce whatever their widget is that they're producing. So that is going to help everyone when the price of oil comes down. I do think that the job market is actually okay. And so I've always said one month's numbers does not a trend create. Last month really strong, this month not so strong. So I'm not convinced that the market is all of a sudden really weak based on today's jobs report. I think it's actually okay. Greg, you hit that I think the most important part of what the Fed does is that we've got a dual mandate. Steady prices, that's inflation, full employment. I think the full employment is okay. If prices come down, I think Kevin Warsh, you know, may be inclined to think, okay, not only am I going to sit, I may actually lower rates in 2027, not this year, but next year. Gary, one thing that you pointed out, and I think there are some good factors within the report. The numbers that I saw today, you have 30, I think it was 30, 32,000 jobs created, but 53,000 government jobs were lost. I mean, they aren't there anymore. That, to me, is good news. If we're shrinking government, something's got to be working right.

Absolutely. And I think we've been talking about this for months is that government jobs have been shrinking. And that is a good thing. And so even though there's a job lost, there were a couple of things that I really liked in terms of construction jobs were up. Manufacturing jobs were up. So that is all good in terms of creating a manufacturing base here in the state. The sectors that grew, I like construction and manufacturing. The fact that government jobs fell, I'm always okay with that. And wages were up, and that's good news too, isn't it, Gary? It is. And so the hourly wages were up slightly, and the hours worked were basically the same as last month. However, hours worked are greater over the last year. The hourly wage is greater over the last year as well. So people have more money in their pockets. It's not keeping up with inflation at this point. I'm still of the opinion, though, that when the war is resolved, inflation comes down, and that's going to solve a lot of problems. Gary, thank you very much, Gary Giggy with Giggy Capital Management with the latest jobs report. There's good bad news in there, I think. So it is. So we didn't want to see interest rates rise. We want, but, you know, these rosy job numbers just didn't match what I think I'm seeing out there, at least here in Utah, in terms of people are having a tough time. Think of our caller Brad yesterday who's just received a raise has a very, I think, respectable hourly wage now, but is camping until he can find an apartment. And he doesn't feel like it's a long-term deal, but he's got to camp for a while until he finds something because it's tough out there. So. That kind of makes a sense, but you don't want to see interest rates rise. But, man, I really did think we could get this Iran situation stabilized and the Strait of Hermuz calmed before the midterms. It is now August 7th. You know, we have till Labor Day where I think that the midterm campaigns officially get underway. I don't know that in three weeks we're going to see three to four weeks. We're going to see that resolved. And I think that is, that makes it very, very difficult for Republicans in the midterms. It started what the first of February? I think it was March, wasn't it? Was it March or February? But still, I'm with you, Greg. And how do you defeat religious fanatics? Because that's what we're dealing with. Yeah, the negotiations, I think, have been so fruitless. I'm surprised that the administration keeps pointing to negotiations when they have really, not only have they've not been fruitless, they've mocked the president for what he's saying. On numerous occasions. And said that we don't believe that. And so I don't think the cleric leadership in the military are on the same page. And I think the military is calling the shots. Anytime they heat that Trump announces some kind of diplomatic solution, the military makes sure the Iranian military, make sure they can contradict that.

Immigration taking the news this week, John Curtis, of course, with his migrant worker program, backed by the governor. A lot of conservatives like you and I are going, wait a minute. Let's not go there again. Markwayne Mullin, the head of Homeland Security. kind of in the doghouse with the president. He should be. His comments to the blue states have just give us your prisoners and your jails and you'll never see us again. That is not as advertised. That is not what the president committed when he ran. That's not what we need. You can't have five and a half plus million people in an open border during Biden's administration flow through here. And then they're all just going to stay. And if Senator Curtis had his way, have legal presence. and just go after those that we want the criminals. That could be priority, but don't say you're not going after the rest. Yeah. Now, another big story, of course, was a migrant invasion in Spain, in Serta, and joining us on our Any Hour Newsmaker line to talk about that is Andrew Arthur, resident fellow of law and policy at the Center for Immigration Studies. Art, thanks for joining us tonight. Give us your overview as to what's going on in Serta. So there were two things that happened, two actions that the Spanish government took. that set the stage for what happened in Suta, a Spanish exclave on the African coast on July the 30th. The first was a regularization program that was finalized by the Spanish government in April to... determine which aliens were in Spain illegally. And the whole idea was that those individuals would present themselves to the Spanish government. If they had been there as of January the first, and if they had been in Spain for five months before that point, they would then receive a temporary status that would allow them to remain. It's not quite an amnesty. but it is pretty close to what we would refer to as an amnesty in the United States. And it sent out the message that the Spanish government wasn't really serious about enforcing its immigration laws. The other probably more important act was on July the 8th, the Spanish Supreme Court issued an opinion that interpreted a 2015 immigration law. And under that 2015 immigration law, the Spanish authorities can do what's called a hot return, a quick, an expedited deportation, we would call it in the United States. of any individual who is encountered by authorities on the perimeters of Spain itself. And the Supreme Court ruled that that only applied to parts of Spain that, you know, have enclosures, fences.

or other physical man-made barriers to entry, not to areas along the coastline or the maritime borders of Spain. And so consequently, what that meant was that any place like Suta on Spanish territory that, you know, didn't have a fence along the beach. was a place that a migrant could enter and they'd have to go through more formal procedures before they were expelled. They couldn't go through those hot returns. So those two actions more or less sent a message to would-be migrants that now is a good time to enter Suta or the other Spanish exclave Malia, which is also on the African coast. So that really sets the stage for what happened on July the 30th. So when they saw the, I don't know if that was intended consequences. I would imagine what I saw was unintended consequences because it looked absolutely chaotic. You saw the looting of stores. I don't see a single woman or child. These are all young military aged men. That seems a bit daunting. Why has there not been any kind of response? Why hasn't there been something in response? to stop that or has there been? Because it looks like whatever those two things that just happened, those dominoes that fell, the temporary status or effective amnesty, and then that court ruling to let them come in the way they did, it's had very bad consequences. Where is Spain now? Are they reacting to it? And if not, why? What's going on, everyone? It's Bluff here, and you know what's more American than America's 250th birthday? Supporting American-owned companies like SpinQuest, America's number one social casino with over 1,000 games like Live Dealer Blackjack and Craps. They're offering new users a $30 coin package for just $10. Go to SpinQuest.com and sign up today. SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit spendquest.com for more details. The general election is coming fast, and if you're working on a campaign, you need every smart way to reach voters. IHeart delivers trusted audio at scale through AMFM radio, podcasts, and streaming, helping campaigns connect with voters at home, in the car, at work, and on the go. Whether you are building awareness, reinforcing your message, or extending your TV by, IHeart can help you reach the voters that matter. Put audio to work for your campaign today. Call 844-844-Eheart. That's 844-844-I-heart. Hey, there are people winning real cash while they're sitting in traffic right now. LuckyHands.com. No trip to a casino, just gains, daily rewards, popular fish tables, and a chance to redeem real cash prizes. Get a 300% welcome offer bonus when you use code Clover.

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We do have some laws and some executive wars in place to prevent some of the things you're seeing over there. Thank goodness. Our Listenback Friday segments coming up next here on the Friday edition of the Rod and Greg Show. You know, this transgender issue is not going away for the WNBA. Here you have Megan Rapino, Rapino, whatever her name is, attacking Riley Gaines today. Riley Gaines saying, take a hike. Yeah. And then earlier this week, you had Sophie Cunningham, the comments that she has made, coaches now saying, well, you can't do that. But at the same time, they're saying, we don't want any men. coaches head coaching in the WNBA anymore. That's right. It's kind of crazy. It doesn't, none of it is consistent. And I love how, you know, Sophie, kind of. Poor girl, she just answers a question they've asked her. She answers it honestly because she's not dishonest. How dare you talk about politics? And this Megan Rappan, she sticks her toe in it. She inserts herself everywhere. Don't hear a complaint from the regime media. We had a conversation earlier this week with our good friend, Kevin McCullough, a nationally syndicated host and podcaster about WNBA coaches. Apparently they can't define women. We ask, Kevin, what's going on in the WNBA? All I can say is that... when you have three over the weekend that evidently cannot decide the matter and you have another one that's added to the group today and this is in the aftermath of a four-year push of popular culture really being turned against by the women of this country who rose up in the election in 24 and took their rights back it is really puzzling to see uh the positions that these coaches are taking especially since the league that pays their salary signs a check that says women's NBA on in the name of the organization it's truly stunning So this seems like a luxury belief. I don't know that any of them are speaking from a place where they think that women would actually be displaced off their roster or this is just all theory to them. Would it take men playing in their league for them to start, it might dawn on them that maybe they'd like women in the WMBA? Well, it's interesting you ask that because I come at this from a pretty interesting perspective. I wrote a piece obviously for Town Hall, but for a period of time just after college, I. was an assistant coach for a women's college basketball team for about four years. And one of my jobs as that assistant was to recruit intermural level male players to come scrimmage against the girls on game weeks so that they could be playing against someone who was faster, stronger, and a little bit sometimes more skilled than them at some of the positions that we wanted them to get faster and stronger at. And if you'll notice, I wasn't sent to go. get the varsity team to play in your mural i was sent i was sent to go get the inner mural and usually the lower half of the intramural guys because for some reason these guys that would uh that would come over and help us out some of them were really nice some of them took it as an opportunity to be you know uh you know dominant and you're like come on you're you're playing against girls that missing the point completely that an inter mural boys team

could give our varsity girls team a run for their money and most days still outperform them. The point is very simple. Men have denser bones, bigger muscle mass, faster speed. They have greater lung capacity. There's all kinds of advantages that they have. And I don't buy for a second that any of these coaches don't understand all of that. This to me is not a luxury belief. It is a save their backside belief. They are afraid that they're going to be looked down upon at some wine and cheese recruitment party for the college or the university or wherever it is that they normally get invited to. And they don't want to be on that bad list. They don't want to be seen as being someone who actually had a backbone and stood up for something normal. The sad thing is they're willing to sacrifice women's futures and safeties in order to do it. Kevin, do you think there are players within the NBA who are They just don't want to say anything, but they actually agree with Sophie Cunningham. Do you think there are players in the WNBA? In the WMBA? Who may agree with her, but are afraid to say anything? Look, you could take Brittany Greyer, Lisa Leslie, Caitlin Clark, Sophie Cunningham, you take any of the best players possible. None of them, not one of them, would make a men's team. The disparity here is significant. And there's not a woman in that league that would say, yeah, give me, give me the lighter version of Michael Jim Jordan to try to earn my spot against. Not going to happen. They're not going to want to do that. And the point is they shouldn't have to. The entire fight for Title IX was so that men and women could have competitive arenas to compete and play their best and become their best in without fear of being prejudiced. This is exactly the opposite. This is regression. This is moving men back into women's spaces when we've done a really good job of giving women their own space and watching them succeed wildly. Hanging out at the pool is great. Relaxing and playing Vegas-style games on my phone at the same time. Drink in one hand and a blackjack in the other. It's all at SpinQuest. Over a thousand games including your favorite slots and table games. Be cool with this summer special. New players get $30 coin packs for 10 at SpinQuest.com. SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit spinquest.com for more details. If you're part of a political campaign, you know media plans are under serious pressure right now. TV alone is not reaching everyone. Digital is crowded, and every dollar has to work harder. That's why political advertisers are adding iHeart. With broadcast radio, podcasts, and streaming, iHeart helps get your message in front of voters with trusted voices, efficient frequency, and scale across local markets. If you need to reach more voters before election day, let's talk. Partner with iHeart today. Call 1-844-844. for iHeart. Hey, there are people winning real cash while they're sitting in traffic right now. LuckyHands.com. No trip to a casino, just games, daily rewards, popular fish tables, and a chance to redeem real cash prizes. Get a 300% welcome offer bonus when you use code Clover.

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important part of what makes it distinct, that it doesn't matter. And they'll destroy it all on their own. They won't have anyone else to blame. Part of our Listback Friday segment is Kevin McCullough here on the Rodin-Greg show and Talk Radio 1059, KNRS. Well, you'll be in experience this, a Gen Z member of your family, getting married here in a few weeks. Yes, coming up soon. Very exciting for the Hughes home. But there are a lot of Gen Ziers out there who are not getting married. And why not? Well, we spoke recently with Leanna Graham or research analyst and domestic policy there at a Heritage Foundation and asked her that question, why Gen Ziers are so afraid of getting married. Yeah, I mean, it's a very shocking landscape. First of all, thanks a much for having me on. I write a lot on marriage and family culture. I myself got married at the age of 21, which was a very countercultural decision in my age group and cohort, especially given the kind of narrative that I received a lot growing up and that a lot of young women and young men do. One in three, Gen Z, are expected to never marry, which is, I think, the lowest projected number in American history for this age group. truly a historic time that we are in. But I would say that there are a lot of factors that have influenced this sort of marriage skepticism in Gen Z, in particular with young women. I would say that there are a lot of social media influences that have been consequential. There was a NBER paper that came out recently that... actually found causal evidence that the iPhone has led to a decline in fertility. And it's led a lot of people to start asking, like, what is it about the introduction of the iPhone, that decreased fertility? And I think that it's twofold. Number one, the iPhone and the structure of the technology and social media itself just discourages in-person interactions and crowds those out. So you have... fewer opportunities to meet people in the way that our parents and our grandparents did, and that naturally is going to lead to fewer romantic attraction or, like, neat, cutes as they show in the movies. But secondly, the kind of content that social media tends to platform is increasingly I've noticed hostile towards marriage and family. It's... frames marriage as hostile to women's flourishing as this sort of limitation on your career and your identity. And for that reason, a lot of women delay marriage, and they find that delayed marriage often becomes foregone marriage. So a huge reason why we're seeing this decline in the marriage rate has to do with actually delaying marriage. So there's an argument. It's made in this article that maybe even financial security. Maybe our youngest generation or emerging generation thinks that you have to be able to buy a home. There has to be financial security before you get married, maybe not taking that journey together as young newlyweds. I guess my question is twofold. Do you feel that those financial challenges are playing a factor? And then second, I've been told that homeownership isn't what it used to be for young people, counter to this argument, that...

People don't see themselves staying in one place for a 30-year mortgage. And so renting may seem even more viable in some ways. So what is the economic prospects for young people, Generation Z is they're looking to get married? Is it a chilling effect to get married? Or are they taking on maybe different factors? Yeah, I mean, I think it's unquestionable that the affordability crisis is a problem and that that has had a negative impact on family formation and marriage rates in general. But as I noted in the article, there's another factor that's worthy of consideration here that's more cultural. So, for example, an economic reality is, let's say, for example, the cost of homes. And that economic reality can shift depending on policy and different material economic conditions of society. But a cultural factor is the assumption that homeownership is a prerequisite for marriage. Now, that's not to say that homeownership is not relevant. Obviously, it's ideal, and it used to be the case that once a couple got married, homeownership was not a far-out reality, but it was something that they were working towards together. Because our society used to hold to more of a cap or a cornerstone view, excuse me, of marriage, which sought as the foundation of one's life. And so when you got married, you were embarking on this project together of a shared identity, a shared future. You are building capital together and you're working towards a home together. Obviously, it's better for a home ownership to be in the nearer rather than distant future. But changing cultural standards and narratives have made it such that... homeownership and other more, I guess, adult career advancements are considered as prerequisites for marriage. And that's more of a cultural shift that has to do with a changing view of what marriage is. So instead of the cornerstone view, which saw marriage is the foundation for your adult life, we now have more of a capstone view in modern culture, which sees marriage as this sort of cherry on top. It's like the last thing that you consider after. checking off all the boxes of your adult life, you get your degree, you work away at your career, you get a few promotions, and buy a home, do all the things, and then and only then should you consider marriage. So to answer a question, affordability absolutely matters, but what's interesting is that cultural changes and changing cultural norms have made us interpret those changing affordability or economic realities in a different way than... maybe my parents would or my grandparents and the generations before us because we no longer view marriage increasingly as a foundation for your life, but something that you do after you've achieved all of these checklist items for your adult career. Leanna, another factor you bring up is the growing ideological divide between men and women. So if a guy is a Trump supporter and wants to marry a woman who is a Kamala Harris supporter, should they even try and get together, Leanna? Wow. I mean, according to the, if, hey, if marriage and family is high on your list of priorities, and if you're dating somebody who doesn't have that high on their list of priorities, naturally it's not going to be a great fit. And I think what you're referring to, yeah, in the article I talk about this very famous NBC poll that was polling Gen Z on a number of different things. But what's interesting is on the question on marriage and family, they divide it up.

the men and the women by their partisan affiliation. And they found that the Trump voting men voted out of the list of 13. They were asked, what would lead to a successful life? The men voted, the Trump voting men put having children as number one. And the Harris voting women put it at, I think it was 12 or 11. It was near the bottom. So there is a huge ideological divide between men and women, yes, and because women are increasingly moving towards the left, and we're seeing that women on the left or progressive women tend to view marriage as a limitation on one's life. There is now this ideological divide with women moving to the left and men moving to the right. And marriage and family now becoming this partisan thing as opposed to... I don't know, like part of the good life for like every person who wants it. I mean, it's almost as if most of the generations before us were united, that family is just a good. And it's natural for people to want to be surrounded by relationships and with their loved ones and to get married and to have children. But increasingly, we're seeing that this is more of an ideological divide now and that conservatives are the ones having more children and getting married, whereas people on the left. tend to have lower marriage at infertility rights. So it's a really interesting dynamic, but yeah, ideological division between men and women is certainly, I think, increasing this hostility and sort of this risk aversion of Gen Z and the skepticism towards marriage more generally. Leone Graham, joining us on our Any Hour Newsmaker line talking about Gen Z years, not getting married. Look, I think Utah, I think we still have a strong culture, but I think we're picking this up. This trend is here in Utah. It's just we're in a different stage of it. I think we're just starting it. If things don't change, we'll start to see that get worse. But right now, I think we still have young people that are looking to hook up, get married, get hitched. Get hitched. It's the Rod and Greg Show here on Talk Radio, 105.9 canter us. CEOs, you should know. It's a conversation we have with some of the top business leaders here in Utah. We explore the ups and downs of creating and running their business, and we dig into the challenges they face and the opportunities that they take. And joining me now is Cedro Toro. He is the CEO of Avery Drones. How are you? I'm doing great, Rod. Thanks for having me here. You have an amazing company, and we'll take some time to find out, but we want to get to know you a little bit better, Cedro. So I'm going to do what we call this is you in 60. I'm going to throw a lot of questions at you real fast and let you answer them in 60 seconds. And we're going to put a stopwatch on this as well. All right. All right. You all set to go. No pressure. All right. All right. You in 60 with Sagerotro. All right. Here we come. Stopwatch is running. Cats or dogs? Dogs for sure. Okay. Early riser or night owl. Night owl. TikTok, Instagram or X. X. Introvert or extrovert. Very introverted. Beach or mountains? Mountains. Okay. Rock and roll or country? Oh, man. Rock and roll, which is country now. Which is kind of country now. TV or YouTube? YouTube. Baseball, football, basketball, hockey, or soccer? Okay. Star Trek or Star Wars? Oh, man. Neither? Star Wars, I guess. Sleep or workout?

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Well, what's happened recently is drones have gotten to the point where the motors are bigger, the controls are bigger, they're more reliable, and now we have drones with payloads of, you know, 200 kilograms, 400 kilograms. They can carry a huge amount of liquid payload, which is what a lot of your chemicals are, and they can spray very accurately on that same field, and you don't need a million-dollar plane to come to it. Now you have a drone that costs you maybe 30 grand. And so for 30 grand, you're out spraying. you know, 30, 50, 80 acres an hour, and you don't need an airplane anymore. And much more efficient, I would think, right? Yeah, well. Compared to paying for a plane to do it. Right. The cost is much, much lower. It's much safer. And it's much more precise. The drones can fly within five centimeters around the edge of a field and just do a perfect application every time, which is very difficult to replicate with anything from the air. Yeah, you're a relatively new company. You've been around about three or four years, you were saying. You've got four employees. What are the challenges as CEO getting a company started like this and getting the word out that this is available and attracting farmers who, coming, my wife's a farmer's daughter, so she knows they're a little reluctant at times to try anything new. How do you convince them this will really help you? Yeah, it's like anything that, you know, when you see, it's like when the, well, for those of us old enough to remember, when the microwave was invented, right? Oh, yeah. You know, there's this learning curve where people are like, oh, I'm not sure what that is. You know, what are these drones? What are they doing out in the field? The great thing about them is they're so cool. that when you get a drone out in the field and you're spraying it, all the other farmers around will come and watch, and people driving by will stop and they want to see it, right? Because it really is a spectacle. You just see this massive drone flying out, you know, it's got a 10-foot wing span, it's got a giant tank on it. You see that out spraying in the field. It's an event. So, you know, the farmers are slowly coming around to like, oh, this is just another tool in my tool belt that I need or, you know, if I'm a custom applicator, which is a crop duster. They're having these incredible businesses where these young kids that are in agriculture can invest, you know, 30, 40 grand into a rig, and they're up and running, and they can start a business making $100, $120,000 in five months. Wow. It's just a fantastic opportunity. So because of that, growing this business has not been that difficult, right? We are catching the wave of this new interest and this new technology, and it's really just taking off. As a CEO, what's your biggest challenge right now, would you say? Good talent, right? Yeah, finding good people. And I think that's always been the case for any of the other companies that I've run or worked with. But, you know, finding good salespeople in the ag space, once you find them, man, they're just worth their weight in gold. Finding a good, I've got a really great guy running my warehouse right now. His name's Owen Transtrom, and he's just doing a fantastic job. But it takes time to train him, you know, find the right person, get him trained up, somebody that has that aptitude. Yeah, but that's really been the main challenge. Other than that, there's regulatory requirements. So right now, the U.S. government is trying to ban drones and has successfully banned drones being imported from China, and that's where most of our supply comes from.

So the supply chain issues right now are really tough. There's a lot of companies starting up that are trying to become U.S. drone manufacturers in the ag space, but the reality is, you know, 99% of our materials still come from China. Cedro has been good to get to know you for a few minutes. Yeah, thanks, Rod. On CEOs you should know. Thank you. All right to be here. Bringing you insights from business leaders who are achieving success. CEOs you should know on Talk Radio 1059, KNRS. What's up, everybody? It's Bretzky, and America is turning 250. And I can't think of a better way to celebrate that than playing on an American-owned social casino, SpinQuest.com. With all of your favorite games, live craps, bubble craps, live blackjack, there's no better place to play for free and win real cash prizes. SpinQuest.com. SpendQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit SpendQuest.com for more details. The general election is coming fast, and if you're working on a campaign, you need every smart way to reach voters. IHeart delivers trusted audio at scale through AMFM radio, podcasts, and streaming, helping campaigns connect with voters at home, in the car, at work, and on the go. Whether you are building awareness, reinforcing your message, or extending your TV by, IHeart can help you reach the voters that matter. Put audio to work for your campaign today. Call 844-844-I-Hart. That's 844-844. for I-heart.