Hour 2 of NMN, Cathy Hinners + Matthew Hurtt

Well, if people haven't seen what's happening in Europe, and it's more the Sharia law compliance, you know, that they have over there, the Muslim Brotherhood is there, but I will tell you that the Muslim Brotherhood is here even more. The Muslim Brotherhood is all over. It's global. It's listed as a terrorist organization in several Middle Eastern countries. They haven't been able to be designated in Europe or here as a terrorist organization because they haven't become violent to the point that, you know, they usually are. But it's the funding that's the problem. The Muslim Brotherhood does exist in Europe. Several of the same organizations that are here are also there. They have the same problems with the funding of Hamas and through the Muslim Brotherhood. But, you know, Here, it goes back to 1928. We actually let them in in the 60s. The first thing that they did was join or form a Muslim student association at the University of Illinois in Champaign or Urbana. And so that's how they started here. And so they have grown, but we know that through FBI documents and memos that there's a list of 29 organizations. that are Muslim Brotherhood entities. Several of them here have grown, and what's interesting about that is one of the founders of care has stated that they can register an organization very easily. As a matter of fact, they can register 100 organizations in 100 cities in one day, and they do. Well, hey, Kathy, real quick, let's talk about what it is that they represent before we go any further. Who are they? What do they... What does one trip to Israel do? One trip changes people's faith, their identity, their perspective. One trip changes the response when people chant from the river to the sea. One trip changes how people see right and wrong. One trip changes the idea of home. One trip changes everything. And one donation is all it takes. You didn't start a business just to keep the lights on. You're here to sell more today than yesterday. You're here to win. Lucky for you, Shopify built the best converting checkout on the planet. Like the just one tapping, ridiculously fast acting, sky high sales stacking, championed checkouts. That's the good stuff right there. So if your business is in it to win it, win with Shopify. Start your free trial today at Shopify.com slash win. The U.S. soccer podcast. I'm your host, Megan Klingeberg. And after interviewing so many dudes during this men's World Cup, I'm so happy to be back with my U.S. women's national team players. I know the U.S. men's national team has changed how I think about myself, how I think about being an American, how I think about being on a team. It's one year out from that World Cup, and we're going to talk about the brightest prospects in U.S. soccer. You ready? I'm ready. Let's do it. The U.S. soccer podcast. Presented by Henko. Follow and listen on your favorite.

What are the concerns? The whole bottom line to the Muslim Brotherhood is to continue to grow and eventually become a global caliphate. I know people roll their eyes when they hear that. They say we have a constitution. It's not possible. It is possible. It is a parallel way of life. It will be incorporating Sharia law. And the more elected officials that are from the Muslim Brotherhood or have that affiliation, that is going to be the problem. Because the more higher the numbers, the more they can affect change. You know, we've talked about this for years. The goal is eventually compliance, Sharia compliance and domination. People say, no, that can't happen. We have a constitution. It's happening. You saw, you know, yesterday Abdul El-Sayed out in Michigan was elected. We have 142 Muslims, I call them Islamists, across the country that had been elected in various positions. Important positions are judges, school boards, certainly, you know, senators and Congress. But this is how they're going to affect change. It's called creeping Sharia. And so that is so important that we understand that it's here. And it's here in Nashville. And that's, you know, that's something that we need to be paying attention. There's a document out there that I wish everyone would read. It has evidentiary value from a trial that was done here in America in 2008 in Dallas, Texas. It's called an explanatory memorandum on the general strategic goal for the group in North America. You can find it anywhere online. You can find it on my website, certainly under Islamic documents. Everyone needs to read it because it is their playbook. You and I have talked about this for a long time, Dan. You know, during that testimony yesterday from Kyle Scheidler, I thought it was very interesting that he did a great job. I would have liked to have seen him expound a little bit more on how and why the Muslim Brotherhood is here. And so... Well, Kathy, Kathy, earlier you said that we let them in, that was, I think your exact quote, was did we let them in through just the typical immigration process or how did that come down? Yeah, they've been, most of them are here legally. Certainly the citizens are, but most of them have immigrated here legally, very well educated. You know, they were on college campuses. That was the first place that they went to. We understand why they go to college campuses. It's called Dawah, or the proselytizing of Islam. It's the actual planting of seeds of Islam. They do good works throughout the communities that they're in. There's several. There's probably over. 600 chapters of the Muslim Student Association. That is how it started here by bringing students from abroad over to America and then dispersing them throughout the states and incorporating the Muslim Student Association. We have them here in Tennessee. We've got one at Treveka University, Belmont University, Vanderbilt University. They're embedded into college campuses. And so that is how it is spreading initially.

And then the next goal, we have something called the Islamic Society of North America. They're supported by the Islamic Revolution. And their whole political... mission states that it has a political goal to exert influence on political decision making and legislation. That's where we're at now. They are still on college campuses, but now they've kind of grown into being political. Well, look at, I mean, look just, I mean, to me, the example is what is happening in Minnesota with the Somalians. I don't think they're, well, I don't know. You tell me, is that. an example of what we're seeing with the Muslim Brotherhood where you just you have these enclaves and I got to check traffic real quick but is that an example of what we're seeing with these enclaves in places like, I mean, you've got the Deerboard Michigan, you've got, you know, the Somalians in Minnesota. Kathy Hidders is joining us talking about the Muslim Brotherhood here in the state of Tennessee and across America. Ted Cruz, you know, Kathy, you were talking about the hearings that we saw earlier this week. There was one moment where Ted Cruz did ask that expert about the relationship between the Democrat Socialists of America. and the Muslim Brotherhood. Listen. Would you agree that this alliance between the Muslim Brotherhood and the DSA, otherwise known as the Red Green Alliance, is based on a shared hatred of America? And I would go further as to say it's also united around a revolutionary objective advocating for the overthrow of the U.S. Constitution. I mean, listen, these are not a bunch of... You know, tinfoil hatters. I mean, this is Ted Cruz. These are experts who are, you know, they're knowledgeable of what is going on with the Muslim Brotherhood and has been going on with the Muslim Brotherhood. You know, when people challenge this, because, you know, it does happen all the time. You heard Richard Blumenthal earlier talking about how, oh, it's Islamophobic. What happens when people such as yourself challenge these folks that are part of the Muslim Brotherhood? Well, it all comes back to the first word, Muslim, and that's the problem. There's nothing religious about the Muslim Brotherhood. It is a political organization, is a political movement. And so that is why, though, they always go back to the part that is Islamophobia. It has nothing to do with the religion, which, by the way, is a very small part of Islam. But now, but that's how they do this. And actually, what's interesting is I've been hearing it now being called the Blue, the Blue Red Alliance, because it's obviously Democrats, the Blue, but, you know, communists and the Islamists have very much in common. I had a talk with a man named Trevor Loudon, who's from New Zealand. He's very much into communism and goes around talking about it.

He had asked me, he said, who do you think will win? The communist or the Muslims? I said, the Muslims obviously will win because of their patience and their due diligence in exactly what they're doing today. They are saturating areas, and when you saturate areas that are dominantly Islamic. They will vote for Islamists, and this is how we're seeing them grow into our own government. Very, very scary. People need to pay attention to this because we do have this problem in Nashville. It's on a smaller scale, but the fact that they're here... is a problem. And so, you know, we look at these organizations called the Islamic Society of North America. They own and operate the majority of mosques throughout this country. And as a matter of fact, the Islamic Center of Nashville is owned and operated by the Islamic Society of North America. Their financial arm is called the North American Islamic Trust. You'll see that we have a picture, a screenshot of the deed that does in fact show that that's who they're owned and operated by. So, you know, it is here. You know, people want to always refer to it as over there or, you know, Minnesota or wherever, you know, Plano, Texas is the new problem. But it's here and it's in small increments. You know, they've been taking baby steps. Now with as many as that are being elected in this country, the baby steps and the masks have come off. They've. outwardly said what their goal is, and that's to dominate and to change America. Well, look at Hasan Piker, look at Abdul El-Sayed, and look at others like them, and you're right. They're not mincing words. I mean, listen to what they're saying, and it's almost on every other daily basis here on my show that I'm calling out Hasan Piker or Abdul El-Sayed and some of these other folks that are saying some of these things, essentially... my opinion, wanting to overthrow America. So this is something that does need to be addressed. This is something that does need to be talked about. And we'll continue to talk about it here. Kathy, your website, daily rollcall.com. And what can people find there real quick? Well, they can find under documents, Islamic documents, they can find all these documents that you and I've talked about for a long time. Certainly the Muslim Brotherhood is listed as the manifesto. And so I would urge people to download it, read it, understand it. It's in Arabic. The first 14 pages are in Arabic. English follows. Learn who the organizations are, and then you can read articles of how they're connected to Nashville and Tennessee. All right, Kathy Hinner, is always great to talk to you. I'll have you back on again soon. Matthew Hurt. Our grassroots political analyst is joining us. Matthew, how are you?

Doing pretty great, Dan, just taking a look at these primary and general election results from Tennessee last night. I do want to get to that, but I don't want to get too far away from the comment that I just made because some people did react to it. Some people negatively, negatively, some people positively. But, you know, what I said, CNN had this graphic up and it said that Donald Trump told Punch Bowl news that people are angry at Republicans. Without even hearing the audio, I can tell you he's probably talking about the SAVE Act, but I also think that the president does need to understand that people are upset with him too because of the war in Iran and the, you know. gas prices that are still too high and so forth. And so I get why people would think that I'm sort of betraying Donald Trump. First of all, I'm loyal to no politician. And if I'm upset with Donald Trump, I'm going to say so along with the many, many, many, many, many times that I have praised the president as well. But I think that's a... I think that's a fair statement to make. Last night at our event at Hop Springs, I had people, you know, asking me, you know, kind of rolling their eyes and frustrated, when do you think the war in Iran will be over? I mean, I wish I knew, but I think the president, he's got to understand that people are frustrated with the war. Well, Dan, I think you're absolutely right. Support for the war in Iran is hovering about 32%. And so even if you were to split out Republicans from the total, you're only going to get about 60 to 70 percent support for what's going on in Iran among Republicans. So it is okay to support the president. It is also okay to question the policies and how those will play out in an election cycle. And so what's going on in Iran is leading to higher gas prices. There are some inflationary impacts that impact groceries and supply lines. And for many people, as we get into late August and September and October, the people who tune in late in the cycle are going to think about these issues. They're not going to think necessarily about what's going on in Washington, D.C. They're going to think about how politicians impact their bottom line and in their pocketbook. And so there's no doubt in my mind that Iran is wildly and popular among Democrats, but it is also there's a sticking point among some segment of Republicans, and it would be foolish.

to ignore that. It would be absolutely foolish to ignore that. All right, real quick. Of course, we all now know that Marsha Blackburn won the Republican nomination for governor last night. So if you want to talk about some percentages, this is what I have. I don't know if this has changed. Blackburn, 43.4% of the vote. John Rose, 32.9% of the vote. Moni Fritz got 23.4% of the vote. That's what I had earlier this morning. I don't know if that's changed. That's about where it is. I think in this three-way primary, Monty Fritz did outkick his coverage. I think that is if the Monifritz supporters out there are looking for silver lining, I think he performed much better than the polls expected, much better than the way these three-way primaries tend to play out. But, you know, you'd zoom out and you say, well, Marsha only got about 43 and a half percent. What would have happened if this would have been a one-to-one race, Marsha Blackburn versus one challenger? Although the difference between, say, John Rose and Monty Fritz, John Rose, I think, if I were to sum up his portfolio, his... his philosophy or the kinds of voters who would be attracted to him, it would be people who voted for maybe Bill Lee, strongly supported Bill Lee, or even Bill Haslam, the former governor. While Monty Fritz's supporters did come from, I would say, the quote unquote, conservative grassroots, those anti-establishment activists who, you know, obviously are very enthusiastic about voting against whomever. the incumbent or the establishment candidate is. This is a really interesting race with Marcia at about 43.5%. But also, if you look at the statewide election, the primary turnout for both, Republicans nearly doubled, their turnout was nearly double what the Democrats' turnout was statewide. Let me ask you, because this came up yesterday. last night during our election night coverage. So let's say that Monty Fritz never ran in this race. So then you've got Blackburn versus Rose. Well, I think you could make the argument, I mean, more so for Blackburn than Rose, but you could make the argument that they are somewhat similar politicians, right? Fritz comes into the race and he completely changes the entire dynamic. So I think if Fritz never gets into the race, I still think that Blackburn would have had a good chance of winning because... I think that what Monty Fritz did is he really brought out the fact that both of these candidates, Rose and Blackburn, they were very traditional or very traditional politicians. If it's just Blackburn and Rose, it's just a completely different race. And I think that Blackburn still has a very good chance of winning.

Well, you're absolutely right. And if, you know, if you were to eliminate, you know, the John Rose Monty Fritz population of voters do not automatically coalesce again in favor of one or the other if one of those candidates doesn't run. And I do think that there are voters who voted in the primary for their chosen candidate who maybe would not have voted. in the primary if their chosen candidate hadn't won, or, you know, there is a segment of the John Rose population or the Monifred's population that would have voted for Marcia had their preferred candidate not run. So it isn't a one-to-one. It's not like if the candidate doesn't appear on the ballot and we travel back in time, that that person's, all of those people's vote go directly to one other candidate. There's a little bit of nuance. People use a one. wide range of deciding factors when making a primary election choice. And it would be unfair to Marcia to say that this 55% of people who voted for one of the other two candidates, John Rose Armani Fritz, would have coalesced around a single challenger if that primary were a two candidate race. Do you know what nerds like you and I will talk about and think about is, okay, so if it was just Blackburn, versus just Rose, or if it's just Blackburn versus just Monty Frith. What does one trip to Israel do? One trip changes people's faith, their identity, their perspective. One trip changes the response when people chant from the river to the sea. One trip changes how people see right and wrong. One trip changes the idea of home. One trip changes everything. And one donation is all it takes. The U.S. soccer podcast. I'm your host, Megan Klingeberg. And after interviewing so many dudes during this men's World Cup, I'm so happy to be back with my U.S. women's national team players. I know the U.S. men's national team has changed how I think about myself, how I think about being an American, how I think about being on a team. It's one year out from that World Cup, and we're going to talk about the brightest prospects in U.S. soccer. You ready? I'm ready. Let's do it. The U.S. soccer podcast, presented by Henko. Follow and listen on your favorite. Would Monty Fritz have beat Marsha Blackburn? And would John Rose have beaten Marsha Blackburn? Personally, and you may think I'm all wet on this, but I think that if it was just Monty Fritz and Marsha Blackburn, I think Monty would have had a better shot at beating Blackburn because he is such a far different candidate than John Rose. I think Blackburn would have had a better shot at beating Rose, but I think that Monty Fritz, I think that Fritz would have had a better shot at beating Blackburn than at John Rose.

You know, and I think that is exactly something that we would talk about, and it's an interesting exercise in trying to figure out the art side of political science. What decisions do voters make when they go in and select a candidate in a primary? All right, real quick. We asked on the Daily Dan poll for you, John Rose, Moni Fritz supporters, waking up this morning. You've got to make a decision. Will you support Marsha Blackburn in the general election? Sam, what do those numbers show? 78% say yes, that they would vote for Blackburn and the general. 22% say no. There's a far from scientific poll from yours truly. So were you surprised at Andy Ogles, and we're going to get into some of the details here, but just, you know, first blush, were you surprised that Andy Ogles lost the primary to Charlie Hatcher? I can't say that I was surprised totally. And what happened? There are two districts in Tennessee that people should look at going into November. And it's the fifth district where only 18% of voters from the 2024 election were in the new fifth district. So this is a concern. When the General Assembly redistricted the congressional districts to... to crack Memphis and to make the ninth district more Republican, it had to move other districts around. And so if you voted in the fifth district primary this year, there is an 80% chance. that you were not in the 5th District two years ago. And so Andy Ogles, though the district is still Republican, Andy Ogles' incumbency advantage, which works in most elections for members of the House of Representatives and for Congress and all the way down ballot, he didn't have that incumbent advantage at all. And then there were, you know, there were layers of... scandal and questions and other things. And in the previous election, Andy Ogles, the race was much closer than expected. And so there are two elements at play here. I think that there were a number of things that Andy didn't do to benefit himself, the issues that he was dealing with, but also only one in five primary voters had voted for Andy in a previous election. So four out of five, 80 percent of primary voters had never voted for Andy Ogles, and they were introduced to Hatcher as a candidate, and they made their decision in that way. So. We've been talking about this group invest in tomorrow. They spent $2 million to primary Andy Ogles, $1.3 million against Andy Ogles, and then $700,000 for Hatcher. And, you know, it's a super PAC, so Hatcher had nothing to do with it. So the question is, is this group invest in tomorrow?

And I think we talked about this earlier this week, but for people that missed it. So this is a super PAC. We don't really know a whole lot about them. They also were successful in driving out Chip Roy in Texas. But is this a Republican group? Is this a Democrat group? And they ultimately think that, you know, the Charlie Hatcher will be an easier defeat for Chas Mulder, who is the Democrat nominee? The question here, and this is happening just down I-65 in Alabama, in states where Republicans have large majorities and they win in congressional districts with 15, 20, 25% of the vote, like that margin, what you're going to find is these kinds of super PACs, which may or may not, I don't know, the campaign finance for this organization. may or may not be left of center or moderate, they're going to start playing in Republican primaries. In Alabama, just down 65, the teachers union plays almost exclusively in Republican primaries because the primary has the effect of being the general election, whoever comes out of the Republican primary. is very likely going to win in November. So people should be paying attention to what kinds of groups are spending money. I know they spent probably upwards of $2 million. And that's a question worth asking and a question worth parsing through as you look at the results. I think, you know, it is likely that either moderate elements or Democrat elements funded that operation. And then the voters make decisions. I mean, voters see ads, they receive mailers, they get text messages, and, you know, there's a wide range of amount of education and time that voters spend getting to know the candidates and the facts in the race, and they make their decisions based on that. So spending in those primaries for organizations like this is going to be interesting, and it may swing some of these races. So if you were to look back and maybe do an autopsy, as they say, on the time that Andy Ogles spent in the House of Representatives, where do you think that he went wrong? Well, tough question, Dan. Look, Andy's a friend of mine. He did great work when he was doing grassroots activism there in Tennessee before he got elected to county mayor and to Congress. I like Andy a lot. I do too. I think there were some unforced errors. It's unfortunate, you know, some of the investigation stuff and some of the probably mishandled social media communications that gave most Republicans on opportunity to say, you know, who's the other person in this race? But you can't discount the fact that four out of five voters, four out of five primary voters in that race had never voted for Andy before. The other thing, Dan, is in the ninth district, which Republicans drew.

To pick up, it remains to be seen. That could still be a Leans Republican district, but the vote margins among the Democrat primary and the Republican primary are very close. So if we have an election in November where the voters are very upset with Republicans for a number of reasons, it would have been a waste of the General Assembly's energy and, in fact, of moving some of these district lines around if... if the ninth district stays in the hands of the Democrats. So, I mean, could we see, and I was thinking about this, could we actually see a situation where Justin Pearson, who people love out there in Memphis, ends up beating Brent Taylor, and we could possibly maybe lose the fifth because the Democrats are really gunning for the fifth congressional district as well? Could we actually see a situation where we lose both of those districts? I'm not willing to predict that yet, but in Rutford County, in Murfrewsboro, Smyrna, and Laverne, Democrats picked up, I think, five county commission districts. They previously held two county commission seats, and they will now hold seven. And so in counties with a balance of rural and suburban, like Rutherford and other places, you're going to see, and you have seen Democrats put a concerted effort. I know those statewide Democrats were in Rutherford County campaigning for Democrat County Commission candidates. So they've invested in candidate recruitment at the local level, which is going to drive up turnout. So you may very well see closer races than we would like in places like the 9th District and the 5th District where voters have an option at the most local level, and that drives out turnout. All right. One last unfinished piece of business, I believe, is who will Marsha Blackburn choose to replace her in the Senate? Two names keep coming up, Glenn Jacobs and Tim Burchett. What do you think? And who am I missing? I like both of those guys. And for a guy from Middle Tennessee who thinks most East Tennessee Republicans are squishy moderates, I would be very happy with either Tim Burchett or Glenn Jacobs. They are doing excellent work. I mean, Tim has long been a force in Tennessee politics back when he was in the state house and state Senate in the 90s and early 2000s. And Glenn Jacobs is somebody I've known for a long time. And I'm so... proud that they have been elected to office and they're doing the right thing by the voters. And so I would be pleased with either of those individuals. Listen, if Glenn Jacobs can put Mike Johnson in like a headlock and body slam him? I think that'd be a good thing. It certainly makes the great television. Throw John Thune through a wall. I think that'd be good, too. All right, I'm not advocating for violence. I'm just kidding. All right, very good. But that said, Dan, if I can have another 30 seconds of this, like Glenn Jacobs, of course, he's national fame from WWE.

But the guy has, he's elected the Knox County mayor, and he does the work. At the local level, it's how are the schools or the roads paved? Is my community safe? And Glenn Jacobs has taken a small, L. Libertarian ideology. He's channeled it through America First and MAGA, and he's been an effective executive out there. I can't praise Glenn Jacobs highly enough for what he's done with Knox County. It's, you know, an embarrassment of riches, if you will. This came up last night, just very quickly. But so. Does Marsha Blackburn, like when there's got to be a lot of behind the scenes wrangling going on, right? So Glenn Jacobs or Tim Burchett, is this a kind of a situation where maybe there's some back channel conversations with John Thune and the leadership in the Senate and say, okay, so I've got these two people. Do you have an opinion on either one of these? Do they actually do that and, you know, talk to leadership about that? There may be a bit of that. Obviously, Tim Burchett has a portfolio in the House of Representatives where Glenn Jacobs doesn't. So he has friends and maybe not friends. I hesitate to call them enemies, but friends and people who would not, you know, throw their support behind him. But Tennessee does have an embarrassment of riches, and they've always, they've tended to have a gentleman's agreement, Republican candidates, since they began winning elections statewide. that they wouldn't, you know, Marcia didn't run against Lamar Alexander in the primary. Republicans have never scooted into a primary against an incumbent. And now we're in the situation where there are so many Republicans, voters have so many options. And that is Republican voters have so many options. And that's not a bad thing. All right. 656. We're wrapping up. Matthew Hurd, how can people follow you on X? I'm on exit, Matthew Hurt, M-A-T-T-H-E-W-H-R-T-T-T. What does one trip to Israel do? One trip changes people's faith, their identity, their perspective. One trip changes the response when people chant from the river to the sea. One trip changes how people see right and wrong. One trip changes the idea of home. One trip changes everything. and one donation is all it takes.