Is Fauci Headed to Jail?

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is, you know, in many respects for many people on the left, he's like this saint to them. He's St. Tony. That's what he is to a lot of these people. Should he be treated that way? Absolutely not. Is he worth that sainhood? Well, only in his own mind when you read through some of his diaries. where the diaries were keeping track of death counts and being like, can you believe it was on People magazine? Man, that was something, huh? By the way, 10,000 more people are dead. It's like this guy was the definition of an egomaniac. That's who he was. But when you think about whether or not Anthony Fauci's future is somehow in a prison cell, even if there's this like kind of infatuation with the idea. Like what Florida Senator Rick Scott said on Fox business, it doesn't make a lot of political sense, to be honest. Here was Rick Scott with Maria Bartramo. And there are so many questions people have. Like my daughters with little kids, do they take the vaccine? Do their kids take the vaccine? We had pregnant women in our office. Every time they go to the doctor, they had some new story. So there was no logic to what Anthony Fauci did. He just lied. The gain of function, just a complete lie. The origin of COVID, complete lie. His diary showed that he believed different than what he was telling us. So I'm glad Rand is doing this. You really have to admire what Rand Paul has done to get the evidence out there, to get his diary. out there to show who Anthony Fauci is. He's going to be held in contempt. It needs to be referred and the guy needs to serve time for what he did. That was Rick Scott Senator out of Florida. And a lot of what Rick Scott said there, I completely agree with. And I've got three young daughters. Only my oldest was alive, you know, in the height of COVID. She was born late 2018. So she was even very young. But I think back to her starting a preschool program and her being at times a little slow when it comes to learning her words as a toddler. Why? Because she was in rooms with adults who had ridiculous masks on all day. So I'm not here to relitigate COVID all these years later. In fact, I don't think it really makes oftentimes, to be honest, the greatest talk radio. But it's in the news this week. I believe it's the top story of the day. And the biggest win here for Rand Paul is relitigating what happened six, seven years ago. So it never happens again. That's it. Now, maybe some of you are saying, hey, well, you know what? Got to make an example out of Anthony Fauci. I understand it to some extent. But at the same time, doesn't that just make him a bigger martyr? Doesn't that just put Anthony Fauci further into that sainthood level for so many people where they actually can't even understand?

why the criticism would exist. I mean, I think that regular folks, because everything in D.C. is so hyperpartisan and so out of control, they're obviously going to back Tony at every turn. But I believe, like I'm here in Kansas City doing my show every morning on KCMO. And I firmly believe that even people who may disagree with me and disagree with you on certain things from a national political perspective, there's almost no defending. what we now know and what Anthony Fauci really was the biggest voice on and what he led the way on as it comes to our public response and our political response to the pandemic. There's almost no defending it at this point. And that's where I believe regular people are at. And that's the win. I mean, I really believe that Rand Paul is bringing this up and he's already won. He's won in the public eye. He's never going to win in the political realm because, you know, that's always going to be hyperpartisan nonsense. But there are people, regular folks around the country seeing this story and their eyes are opening up. And they're realizing, you know what, making it up as we go, putting 90-year-olds ahead of nine-year-olds, that is not good policy. It's not effective policy. It's not good policy for the future of a nation. It's not putting our future first. It doesn't accomplish any of those things. And for the people who needed that reminder, they got that over the last week. The prison thing sounds good. But at the same time, Josh Hawley, Missouri U.S. Senator made this point today that what Anthony Fauci did last week by invoking his Fifth Amendment right on every question. And by the way, he was asked by Josh Hawley, hey, what's the color of the carpet? What's the color of your tie? And he invoked the Fifth Amendment. And Josh Hawley basically shared today. that he did that as a setup for Anthony Fauci to bring this contempt of Congress to the forefront this morning, which is what happened. Here was Josh Hawley. Dr. Anthony Fauci has full immunity. He has a full and unconditional pardon for a period of some 11 years. In that context, the assertion of a Fifth Amendment privilege only adheres to those instances where the witness has a reasonable fear of future prosecution and it must be tailored. to any such fear and the fact that he wouldn't answer questions about the tie he was wearing or the color of the carpet of the day of the week senator paul asked him about did he have a folder in front of me he wouldn't answer that betrays the fact that his invocation of the fifth amendment wasn't tailored to anything it was a predetermined premeditated design to evade this this committee's questions on any subject including emphatically those for which he has a pardon So you heard Josh Hawley, Missouri, U.S. Senator, make the point right there. He wouldn't answer things that he legally could have answered. And he had no interest in doing it. And as Josh Hawley said, the fact that he would not answer questions about the tie he was wearing or the color of the carpet or the day of the week.

Well, that right there betrays the fact that is invocation of the Fifth Amendment wasn't tailored to anything. Josh Hawley just laid it out. Okay? So they do have the case to hold them in contempt of Congress. They can bring this to the Senate floor. I think you can actually get more out of this, politically speaking, by putting it on the Senate floor and keeping the conversation alive. and having further discussions around it versus just saying straight to the DOJ, and if they want to prosecute them, so be it. And let's be honest, do I think that they would do it? Maybe, maybe, but I still think it's probably less than 50-50 odds. They would decide to go down that road. That's just where my gut is right now on this with it going to the DOJ. But it is absolutely fine and a major political win. to bring this back up and remind the American people, hey, you know, there was like half the country after the science was pretty clear on what we were dealing with and who was at risk to keep the country locked down for an over-extended period of time. And never forget, never forget. That so many of the people that were locking businesses down, individuals down, grandmas down, kids out of school, all those people who are doing it were oftentimes breaking their own rules. Let's not forget, Anthony Fauci throws the first pitch. It may have been the worst first pitch in the history of first pitches at a major league baseball game. You know, if you're not a sports fan. Before the game, someone comes out and they throw a first pitch ceremonially, not like in the game itself. And it's kind of a rah-rah thing. They bring somebody out that has some ties to the community. Anthony Fauci came out through the first pitch at a Washington Nationals game all those years ago in the height of COVID. And he's wearing a mask. I'll never forget it. He's wearing this mask as he walks out to the pitcher's mound. Now, this is late 2020. We know what's going on. The Major League Baseball season got delayed to like July. And Tony walks out there. There's a bunch of cardboard cutouts in the audience in the stands. And they put in and pipe in some fake applause for this guy. And he throws the worst pitch outside of maybe 50 cent, if you've seen his first pitch, in the history of first pitches. I've got a five-year-old who is, you know, two years in to a softball clinic that we've been going to the last couple of summers. And she's a lefty like her dad. And she's learning this year, hey, run foot forward, point with your offhand, throw the ball. And she's got a pretty good arm for a little five-year-old. She's got a better first pitch than Tony. I mean, it was the worst first pitch in the history of Major League Baseball. And then what does he do? He throws his first pitch with his mask on. He goes up to a suite. He sits there. He's hanging out. He's eating popcorn. He's yucking it up without his mask. And it was those moments during that period of time that were exhausting, infuriating, and all part of the scam that millions of Americans got hoodwinked on. And bringing that back to the forefront, especially with, you know, let's be honest, we do have these midterms coming up here in just a few months, is not a bad play by any stretch of the imagination.

And the real win here is what it can do politically for Rand Paul and the Republican Party, and then actually putting a guy in a prison cell, which I still think is very much wishful thinking. Pete Mundo filling in for Guy Benson on Guy Benson. It's so good to be here with you. Bottom of this hour, about 15 minutes away, Clay Travis is going to join us because we just can't get away from the insane culture wars. that are permeating the WMBA, and they're just doing it to themselves. Clay Travis will be here on that later in the hour, right here on Guy Benson. Filling in for Guy Benson, it's Pete Mundo. Hey, it's Ryan Reynolds here for Mint Mobile. Now, I was looking for fun ways to tell you that Mint's offer of unlimited premium wireless for $15 a month is back. So I thought it would be fun if we made $15 bills. But it turns out that's very illegal. So there goes my big idea for the commercial. Give it a try at mintmobile.com slash switch. Upbound payment of $45 for three months, $90 for six months or $180 for $12.1 plan required $15 per month equivalent. Taxes and fees extra. Initial plan term only greater than 50 gigabytes. Me slow when network is busy. See terms.

You know, the WMBA is just its own worst enemy. They have opened up this massive can of worms as it relates to, you know, transgender is playing women's basketball, which we know is a bad idea. I'm Pete Mundo filling in for Guy Benson in Kansas City. It's just, it's not rocket science. It's not hyper-partisan. It's just good old-fashioned common sense, which I know, unfortunately, is becoming less common, it seems like, in some circles. But it's really not intended to be this hyper... partisan thing of like yeah got to get it done got to make sure we have as many men in women's sports as possible no one's thinking that way no one wants to be thinking that way so i want to start with this sophy cunningham cut in 26 where she said something yesterday that was kind of like this is exhausting it's a distraction but you know she's blaming the wrong outlets and the wrong people here as much as i love sophy cunningham she has it wrong here There's just so much distraction. I think the WMBA media, all we ever do is cover everything except basketball. And it's like, what are we doing? There's so much. Like you can talk about other things. I think those are great stories. I think it shows fans, you know, who people are outside of the court. But I also think we got to keep the main thing, the main thing. Oh, I agree. But until... We can just get the big stars and the coaches to be on board with the very obvious idea that, hey, we couldn't compete against biological men. This is not going to go away. You know, famously many years ago, Serena Williams was asked like, hey, could you beat the top men's tennis player when she was at the peak of her tennis ability? And she like scoffed at it. It was like, no, no, I couldn't. And I believe that she actually lost a match to like the 150th ranked college tennis player in her prime. There was just no chance, right? So it kind of just went by the wayside. This was before all this craziness around discussing whether or not men should be in women's sports. And it's also one of these situations where the people who have big voices. Who know the right answer are afraid to say it. Cocoa Goff was reacting to the WTA, Women Tennis Association's new gender testing requirements. And she's so afraid of the left wing flank that she can't just state the obvious in cut 25. I understand the reasoning behind it. I do think that this kind of conversation has created a lot of animosity towards the trans community, which I'm not really a big fan of, but I also understand the need to... I guess the biological difference and the need to protect that and preserve that. So I think it's a conversation that is very nuanced and it creates causes or I need to have a nuanced answer. So yes, I guess kind of agree with trying to protect the fairness in women's sports, but I also do not like the attack that it is creating.

As far as where I stand, I definitely support the trans community, but I also support the need of creating fairness and sport too. None of this is about attacking anybody. No, if you're saying this is about attacking a community, you've got it backwards. It's actually about protecting a community. A community that we always agree was worth protecting, and that's women and especially young girls as athletes. No one is attacking anybody here. Clay Travis is going to try to make sense of all of this. Plus, he's got a heck of an offer on the table. Multi-million dollar offer. You don't want to miss. Coming up, Pete Mundo filling in for Guy Benson. Suffering from dry, tired, irritated eyes, don't let dry eyes win. Use Sistine Pro. It hydrates, restores, and protects dry eyes for up to 12 hours. Sustane Pro, triple action dry eye relief. Filling in for Guy Benson. Here's Pete Mundo.

I just can't get enough of this story. Clay Travis is going to be joining us here on the show. Founder of Outkick.com, Fox News contributor. He is offering $10 million to the Las Vegas Aces to beat a high school boys basketball team. And it's like this is the kind of stuff that you think back to. And you say to yourself, you know, It's just so obvious what would happen here. We all know how this would go down. But for some people, they just can't help themselves. And no one is better at the troll game on this front. And no one is having more success at it. then Clay Travis. It's absolutely incredible to watch unfold. So he'll be joining us here on the show. Pete Mondo filling in for Guy Benson on Guy Benson. Clay, great to have you on. I just want to ask you, I saw that you just noted this on your show here earlier today that a former Vanderbilt player texted you and told you a story about how they once played the women's basketball team. What happened there? Yeah, it's a funny story. I told it yesterday on the show, but I just tweeted out the clip. And I'm paraphrasing it. People can go watch the clip or you can play it. It's not a particularly long story. So if I happen to get minor detail or something wrong, basically he was dating, his roommate was dating one of the players on the Vanderbilt women's basketball team. And they got to arguing about whether the football guys, if they just put together a team, would or would not be able to beat the top 25 Vanderbilt women's basketball team. And so the trash talk kept going. And eventually they said, okay, we're going to play. And the game is going to be set up so that we've got refs. We'll have a running, you know, a clock. just like a normal game would. And he said that the girls, this is the top 25 women's basketball team, playing just against a bunch of athletic guys who were playing football. But they're not a basketball team. The girls basically couldn't get the ball inbounded even. They would immediately steal and dunk it almost every time. And that the girls couldn't get the ball across half court. Obviously, they couldn't score. and that at halftime they quit. Oh my gosh. Here we have Sophie Cunningham being the lone voice of reason it seems like right now in the WMBA. And even Sophie Cunningham is saying, Clay, hey, you know, the WMBA media is talking about everything except basketball. Now, it's not Sophie's fault. But, Clay, isn't the WMBA its own worst enemy right now in all of this? 100%. And it's really on the commissioner. The commissioner should, in my opinion, come out and say, look, trans people have a right to be happy and live their life as they see fit. But men who decide that they are women are not eligible to play in the WNBA. They've never said that. They won't say it.

That would take, I mean, that's really what Caitlin Clark said in her response. She said, I don't think basically this should be on the players or the coaches. That's a league-wide decision to determine eligibility. And so I think the refusal, failure, whatever word you want to use there on behalf of the WMBA commissioner has created this world and this absurdity, right? Because the coaches have come out and said, if a man identifies as a woman, then, in my opinion, they should be eligible to play in the WMBA. That's an absurd position for anyone to take. And so my response, sometimes, maybe even oftentimes, when I hear an absurd argument, is to accept the argument as valid and then take it. And where it leads to me is, hey, I'm going to have an entire team of men identifying as women. We're going to call them the Nashville balls. I would like to purchase a WNBA franchise. And I think we would have the greatest dynasty in the history of sport. And so sometimes I think... you can sit around and you can object to arguments on their face. And I could have an expert on hemoglobin's. And they could say, well, the amount of oxygen that a male is able to produce and the amount of I could have an expert on musculature. And he could talk or she could talk about how much more body weight that males have and strength. And we all know men are bigger, stronger, faster than women. It's why women's sports exist. When you allow men in women's sports, what you're effectively saying is women's sports don't exist anymore because you've created a unisex world. And so I think the funnier way to handle absurd arguments sometimes is to accept the premise of the argument and follow it to its logical conclusion, which is, from a competitive standpoint, if men are eligible to play in women's sports, then an entire team of men identifying as women should be. should exist in the WNBA. Are you surprised Clay Travis joining us here on Guy Benson. Clay, how surprised are you that in this Trump era, Republican era that we're in right now, Democrats are still, it seems like, scared to death to just moderate on an issue that is so obvious to at least 80% of America. Yeah, so. I am a bit surprised because I thought from a rational perspective when the Supreme Court came out with their opinion, 6-3, that individual states, 27 of them, West Virginia and Idaho, as the chief plaintiffs in this case, that men could be restricted from competing in women's sports, that boys could be restricted from competing in girls' sports. I thought they would say, well, we disagree with the opinion, but the Supreme Court has ruled. I actually think what happened instead is the three liberals who disagreed, Kanji Ketanji Brown Jackson, Saddamayor, and Elena Kagan are all Democrats, and they're all women. And instead of relenting, arguably, they have doubled down on the crazy. And I think it's a little bit as if they are members of a cult now because there's a recognition that if you question the cult leader on the aspect of...

At the entire edifice, the House of Cards or the Emperor not wearing clothes, which are particular now... that all of it collapses, right? Because you'll remember, and most of your listeners will remember, back in the day we had drag queens, right? Rupal was very famous. And the idea of a drag queen was, this is a man that dresses up like a woman, but no one actually argued that drag queens were women. And then the argument became, oh, no, no, no, these are actual women. And that's where the left is getting captured by its logic. Because their argument of if you identify as a woman, you are a woman, means that men can identify as women. And they have to be treated as if they are women. And so when you point out the absurdity of that, they can't take that argument off the table without the entire house of cards of their trans ideology. And to an even larger extent, their identity politics worldview. collapsing on its own right. So they actually argue now. I'm sure you hear it. You probably see it. Maybe somebody in the mentions underneath this interview when it gets posted will say it. I don't even know why you care so much. Well, that's not really an argument in favor of something. It's just an argument that this shouldn't matter. But it does. You know, that's the reason we have age restrictions. It's the reason we have weight restrictions. It's the reason why we have men's and women's sports because... The method by which we create division, meaning the ability to compete, is often integral to athletics itself as a foundational matter. Clay Travis is here on the show and you're so spot on. I mean, as the father of a 7-5 and 2-year-old daughters, it's just so beyond obvious. And unfortunately, we find ourselves in this chaotic world where people can't just agree on it. So moving forward, do you think that this cultural flashpoint is something that Republicans will lean into? Because why not? Like, is it just one of those strategies that just keeps falling right into their lap? Or is it not going to be enough, let's say, going into the midterms to just lean into something like this? Well, look, there are a lot of serious issues that exist in American politics and in global politics. But I would argue one of the biggest issues we have right now is trust. A lot of people just flat out don't trust politicians. They don't trust political parties. They don't trust people in positions of power. Why is that? Because many of us feel like we've been lied to a lot. I think this issue matters on a foundational level because if you will lie to me about who is a man or woman, whether biology is real, if you will lie to me about that, how can I trust you on tax policy or immigration or all of these other very serious questions? So I think for a lot of men in particular,

This is foundational because they know if anybody who's played high school sports knows the difference between the high school boys team and the high school girls team when it comes to overall ability level based on biology. And so if you'll lie to me about this, how can I trust you on anything else? And that is where I think it has a substantial cultural connection and why I think to a large extent. Democrats have lost the men. The poll I saw recently, Democrats had a 20% approval rating for men. And I think it was 50 or 70% of men had a negative opinion of Democrats. It was a minus 50 overall. I think it's because of issues like these, which cut through the noise. and just demonstrate that we're being lied to by one party in particular on this issue over something that we know is untrue that they are arguing. All right. What about this, Clay? The big news today, too, with Anthony Fauci, the vote in the Senate committee hearing 8 to 5, Rand Paul, bypassing a full vote of the Senate. and just basically handing it over to the DOJ that Anthony Fauci's in contempt of Congress. The DOJ can prosecute now if they want to. The chances, the odds, how would you set those odds on the DOJ actually going ahead with a prosecution of Anthony Fauci? Yeah, it's a good question. So I was actually looking this up on the polys markets and the calches of the world because they have a market on this. And a couple of hours ago, it was 37% chance that he gets charged with a crime before the end of the year. And then as a lawyer, and I am a lawyer, I was looking it up because, frankly, I am not familiar with this particular fact pattern, i.e., how often have there been prosecutions of individuals for appearing before Congress and refusing to answer questions while citing the Fifth Amendment? To a large extent, there are precedents of charges being filed in the 1950s and the 1960s, but this situation has not arisen very often in modern era. So that makes me apprehensive of this. Remember, the prosecution would also have to occur in Washington, D.C., because this is a federal crime. We need you be dealing with a very left-wing jury, which might not be inclined to indict Anthony Fauci, as we have seen them refuse to indict many different people that have been alleged to have committed a crime. So I think I would probably say that there is a decent, meaning, you know, around 50-50 chance that they seek an indictment. Whether a grand jury would grant that indictment, I think becomes a challenge going forward. Yeah, I see it right here. Polymarket still got it at 37% call. She has it at.

31% right now. So not overwhelmingly likely, but we'll see how it plays out. Clay Travis, founder of Outkick Fox News contributor, great to have you on Guy Benson. Thanks for being here, Clay. Hey, thanks a lot. Appreciate you all. You bet. Clay Travis on the show, great to have them on. I'm Pete Mundo in Kansas City filling in for Guy Benson today. Now, coming up. Speaking of Clay Travis, well, there was audio coming out of Michigan. Spend a lot of time on this yesterday, this result from Tuesday night in Michigan. where you had Abdul El-Sayed win this primary as a very, very far left candidate, beating out the more establishment candidate despite being outspent 8, 9 to 1. And the opponent of Abdul El-Sayed, Mike Rogers, man, he had a moment. He is leaning in and he is feeling himself right now. Don't miss that coming up next. Filling in for Guy Benson, it's Pete Mundo. Suffering from dry, tired, irritated eyes, don't let dry eyes win. Use Sistine Pro. It hydrates, restores, and protects dry eyes for up to 12 hours. Sustane Pro, triple action, dry eye relief.

I promise I'm not going to double down on Michigan today. You know, we did a lot of that on Wednesday. Pete Mundo in Kansas City filling in for Guy Benson. But I do think that the next layer of this story is a really interesting one. Because. You had this guy, Abdul El-Sayed, get out spent eight to one. I mean, lean in on the far left anti-Israel flank of the Democratic Party and win his primary. Now, it wasn't by the margins the polls had him at, but still, he got the win. He's the guy in the general. He's going up against Mike Rogers. And what's amazing here is that the odds have now swung not yet, not yet in favor. of Mike Rogers holding his seat in Michigan. He's the Republican, but they've swung by 20 points in favor of Mike Rogers. In early April, Democrats had a 79% chance to win the seat. Republicans at 21. That number is now 59 to 41, according to Kalshi. And we were just talking to Clay Travis about these betting sites and where they have some of these races. They now are saying that... Mike Rogers has a 40% chance. So he's moved up 20 points in the last four months, three months. Now, this guy, Mike Rogers was actually on with Clay Travis, Clay and Buck Show. And here's what he had to say is he gets set for this massive, massive reelection attempt in Michigan that will have hundreds of millions of dollars spent on it. The good news is even Muslims think he's just a little bit too extreme. They have businesses that they're trying to run. The kid, they want their kids to get a good school, and they don't, you know, they're very interested in a better outcome for the state of Michigan for that reason, opportunity so our kids don't leave the state. Well, guess what? He's going to have to answer for all of that. I mean, he cares about Palestine. I care about Michigan, and that's the difference. That's a monster line. He cares about Palestine. I care about Michigan. If that is not on the end of every single one of Mike Rogers commercials, what are we doing? You do not need to be an overpaid political consultant to be like, that's the line. Although maybe one of them came up with the line. I don't know. But that is a great line. And he's right to note it because Abdul El-Sayed is not the kind of guy. who was elected by the working class minority voter in Michigan. Abdul El-Sayed won zero of the 15 counties in Michigan in the Democratic primary. This is not a general election. He won zero of the 15 counties with the lowest share of adults with college degrees. But he won 13 of the 15 counties with the highest share. of adults with college degrees. His support came dramatically from over-educated, suburban, overwhelmingly white, higher-income voters. That's where the guy who pals around with the anti-Israel crowd, who pals around and plays footsie with the Democratic Socialists of America, that's where his support's coming from.

The people who in many respects have benefited the most from the idea of capitalism. It makes you want to bang your head against the wall. Make it make sense. It's not the working class that is leaning in to the very progressive movement. That is not where it's coming from. Now, coming up, the question is, can that political party moderate? Or is it just absolutely impossible? I'm Pete Mundo filling in for Guy Benson. We'll get to that coming up next. Summer's full of reasons to look your best. Tocovus has everything you need to show up in style. Their western boots are handcrafted in over 200 steps by hand with premium calhide and exotic leathers. Stop by your local Ticovis store for the full experience, free drinks, boot shines, and complementary boot branding to make your pair truly yours. Their team is there to help you find exactly what fits your summer. And of course, you can always stop by Ticovus.com. Ticovis, Forever West.

generation of conservative talk right here right now fair fun and backed by the trusted voices and reporting resources of fox news you're listening to Guy Benson and now here's your host Guy Benson well some breaking news mince Mitch McConnell is alive The center has been released on a rehabilitation center, 53 days after his fall on June 14th, marking his first significant step back towards normal Senate engagements. His return home signals that the Senate's longest serving GOP leader is resuming work, albeit remotely, during a critical stretch of the August work period. That's the story and headline here. from Newsweek. So I had somebody, I host the morning show on KCMO in Kansas City. We are a Guy Benson affiliate as well, two to five central time. But I had somebody call in this morning and say, hey, Pete, do you think Mitch McConnell is still alive? And I said, yes, there is no way that you could pull off that kind of a cover up in today's world of cell phones and smartphones and pictures all over the place. There's just, it's impossible. And now I feel completely vindicated with my prediction from this morning. Now, speaking of predictions. Can the Democrats really moderate themselves ahead of November and then going forward into 2028? My short answer on this is no, but it doesn't mean there aren't people in the party who are hoping and maybe even praying if they're the praying type that their party can reverse course. So first I want to start with some audio, and it comes courtesy of the guy who's gotten a lot of attention here for the last couple of the days. And that is the winner of the Democratic primary in Michigan, Abdul El-Sayed. He was asked on CNN last night. Hey, it's going on here, man. Are you a socialist? And here's what he had to say in cut one. I think we've built a movement around the idea that we can get money out of politics, put money in pockets past Medicare for all. I think right now the question that people are asking is not, where do you stand on the left's right spectrum on a series of issues that people talk about on CNN? I think the questions that people are asking is, who's going to help me afford my housing, who's going to help me afford my groceries, who's going to make sure I can see a doctor if I get sick? I'm interested in answering those questions. I'm not a socialist, but I am a scientist. And so I like empirically driven answers to hard problems. I like to solve them. That sounds so good. This guy, he is slick, man. He is really slick. And there's no doubt about it. He is a tough out come November for Mike Rogers and the Michigan GOP. But there are people that are still like hoping upon all hope and all get out that they can possibly find a way to moderate their party. And what they really want to do on the Democrat side of the aisle is they really want to make the midterm about Trump. So here's what's going to happen.

Republicans are going to try to make it about Democratic socialism, DSA, guys like Abdul El-Sayed, and the Democrats are going to try to make it about Donald Trump. So what really November comes down to is do the voters decide it's a referendum on the leftward lean of the Democrat Party or? Do the voters decide that the midterms become a referendum on the president of the United States? That's what it's going to come down to. And yes, there are going to be other factors like gasoline, like the war that needs to end like ASAP, like yesterday, like seven ceasefires ago. Those are the other things that are going to be happening here ahead of November. But there's no doubt that Democrats had, I don't want to say a cakewalk. But anytime you're the party at a power and you go into a midterm, you're going to be in a pretty good spot. But they were in a better spot three months ago than they are right now because of some of the primary candidates that keep coming out of this thing. Now, where I'm at in Kansas City, we have a mayor. His name is Quentin Lucas. And he's got national cachet within the party. He's been on cable news a bunch, MS Now, CNN. He calls himself on social media the Aldi brand Obama. That's how he views himself. That's how he pitches himself. And he's very good. He's very smooth. Not very good policy-wise all the time. He has his moments, but, you know, that's for another day. He wants to see this Democrat Party moderate. He desperately wants to see it. In fact, he made that case on my show this morning that, you know, we've got to figure out a way to moderate ourselves. He thinks that Missouri, where I am, can become a purple state again. And like many Midwest states, I mean, it was purple at one point. Missouri was, you know, more akin to like in Iowa where... They could vote Democrat. I mean, Iowa obviously voted for Obama. They had their moments where they would vote for Democrats. Missouri had a Democrat governor as recently as 10 years ago. Had Claire McCaskill in the U.S. Senate as recently as eight years ago before Josh Hawley beat her. So this was kind of your old school blue dog Democrat, bit of a bellwether state in Missouri. And now it's a state that Republicans win by 20 points. Well, this week in Missouri, there was a vote on eliminating the state income tax. And Missouri voters turned it down 80 to 20. I mean, a colossal defeat. So many Democrats in Missouri are like, hey, there's an opening here. There's an opportunity for us to make this state purple again. We can start winning elections again. They are excited about the idea that Missouri voters turned down. an elimination of the state income tax, which sits at about, give or take, 4.5 to 5%. But that's not the story. The story is people didn't know what the elimination of the income tax would actually lead to as it relates to, you know, their pocketbook. Would my sales taxes go up? Would my property taxes go up? There were really no answers on that, so that's why it went down.

But there are people who want to see states like Missouri and Iowa, which has a competitive U.S. Senate and governor's race as well. They want to make these states blue again. But the anchor that is hanging around these parties in these states that want to become purple again is the national Democratic Party. But that didn't stop the mayor of Kansas City from insisting in Cut 38 that, yeah, he thinks things can swing back in some of these Midwestern states. It is absolutely 100% of Missouri could go back to being a purple state. Look, I mean, let's just make it clear. Let's not try to tiptoe around it. That was a thumping or whatever word you used for people who put that on the ballot. If there were a Kansas City issue that went down 83 to 17. People would be saying, oh, my gosh, Clint Lucas has done, Total Langduck, and others. So I think that is at least one sign that this is a moment where Republicans need to look at how they have had overreach. I think it will be a particular challenge for John Batterson. the Missouri State Representative House Speaker, who is running for state Senate and Lee's Summit, where, of course, like everywhere else, those issues went down badly. But absolutely. Missouri's a purple state. All the people who voted for Claire McCaskill haven't all just passed away now. It's still a state that can do that, and I think Tuesday night chose it. So that right there was the mayor of Kansas City, Quentin Lucas, where I'm based out of Pete Mundo in for Guy Benson. And he wants to see it happen. I can hear it in his voice. You can hear it in his voice. He so wants to see it happen. And he's talking about Claire McCaskill. You may accidentally bump onto her. You know, if you once again accidentally stumble onto MS now, she's on there once in a while and showing her true colors. He believes states like Missouri can do that. I don't see it though. I don't see it when the national party is stuck with people like Abdul El-Sayed. Like when that's now the face, when Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the New York City mayor is Oramam Dani, when those are your guys, I don't know how you possibly can be like, yeah, we're going to figure out a way to moderate. And heck, we had Clay Travis on last hour. And Clay Travis and I were talking about this. How does the party moderate? When we still have to have the absurd debate over whether or not biological men should be allowed to compete in girls' sports. The Democrat Party would be so well served to bringing back just some of those things that have totally alienated working class people from their party. And I don't know why they're so afraid and scared to do it. I don't know. It's like the party's become the base of the party has become robots who are configured and designed in Kay Ivey League institutions with degrees in basket weaving. It's just, it's not something that is based in regular working people who wake up every day, get in the car, go to an office, go to a work site, and do real stuff for a living.

And that's why, well, the Republican Party certainly has some issues and has an uphill battle on its hands here. They still have a lot of things that are working in their favor. Now, I did ask the mayor about this as well when he was on my show this morning, and that is the left. of the Democratic base versus the far left of the Democratic base. And whether or not they can get themselves into a place where they're winning back some of those working class voters because the other issue, as we talked about in Michigan last night or two nights ago now at this point, the working class counties, the minority counties, the counties without college degrees, none of those counties voted for the far left progressive Abdul El-Sayed. The counties that are well to do, higher educated, oftentimes very white, they love the guy. So you got that battle going on here. Let's play cut 37. There has always been, and I'm happy to do this to the cows come home. Right. There's a difference in moderate voices and others in the black vote versus what you see from more progressive, typically white crowds. And I think that's something where the Democratic Party needs to try its level best to unify. I think that's a constituency. Those are constituencies as mayor I've tried to bring together. You're around. I don't always do it with perfect success. But part of how I was able to win in re-election, 80 to 20, without any real opposition, was because that is the work you need to do. And that's what Mr. Abdul El-Sayed is going to have to try to bring together. I think that, you know, a lot of groups, particularly black voters, I know the group, well, I am one, right? Want to know people who have been around for a while who have contributed in their community and who speak to the issues that they're concerned about. And while foreign policy obviously is interesting, while some of these other issues are, we're worried about making ends meet. in the core of our city. We're not making ends meet in rural Michigan and rural Missouri. And I think that you have a lot of us who say, all right, that's great that you're about all those things. What is it for me? What are you going to do for me? And I think that's where Democrats, frankly, need to try to excel even more. And we'll see if they can do it. If they can get back to talking about basic issues. But when you got the guys like Abdul El-Sayed talking more about Palestine, then they're talking about issues for Michigan or issues for Missouri or Kansas or wherever you're at right now listening to Guy Benson. If those are the issues that they are hyper focused on, the online segment of the base, they're not going to have the success that they potentially can have here. And there's certainly plenty that they can run on, right? Affordability is still an issue. And that goes back years. That's not really because of anything that's been done the last 18 months outside of the war that's driven up gas prices. But for the most part, that is baked into the cake for the last five, six years going back to COVID at this point. It's just unfortunately not getting better or not getting better faster, which is what really needs to happen here. Can they get back to some of the kitchen table issues and drop the crazy?

Unfortunately for them, it's not obvious they can do it. For the Republicans, well, it's a big gift. The question for them is, can they take proper advantage of it? I'm Pete Mundo and Kansas City filling in for Guy Benson on Guy Benson. It is so great to be here with you on a Thursday. We've got much more coming up. Kevin O'Leary, Mr. Wonderful, is going to be here next hour. Do not miss that as we keep it rolling here. And we also have some news later this hour as it relates to where the president of the United States might be leaning for 2028 and his successor. That all coming up. Not the same talking points here. Guy Benson. Did you know Fox News has a wine shop? Did you also know you can get a head start on your Christmas shopping? That's right. Check one more gift off your list with the Fox News Wine Shop Advent Calendar featuring 12 festive wines inspired by the holiday magic of Fox Square. You can reserve yours for just a 1999 deposit. We'll deliver it free right to your doorstep in time for the holiday season. Quantities are limited, so visit foxnewswineshop.com today.

monitoring the president of the United States from the Oval Office. He's talking with reporters right now, mentioning how Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. This guy, I'll tell you what, he stays busy. He's not like, let's go on vacation for a couple of weeks kind of guy that's just never who the president of the United States has been, even if it might be, you know, like healthy for him. It's just not his style. He's a worker. I respect that. But he was also in Las Vegas yesterday. One thing that I would love to see come back into the conversation is just what's going on as it relates to some of the wins in the economy. I talked a little bit ago about how, yeah, is there room to improve things? Yes. Wages still need to catch up to what we've dealt with on the inflation side the last five, six years. That doesn't happen overnight. War has been a setback. Gas price has gone up. So unfortunately, that's happened as well here the last few months. But. I'm fine with the president of the United States highlighting the fact that, hey, the markets continue to do very well. Now, the markets are not Main Street. Wall Street's not Main Street. But there's something to be said for some records that continue to get set. Here was the president yesterday in Vegas cut 32. The stock market has set. 74 all-time highs just since our short time that we've been back. You know, we had the greatest economy in the history of our country in my first term. You know that. This is going to blow it away. It already is, I think, but this is blowing it away. 74. The highest stock markets in history. Now, he's right to point that out. And I want to ask Kevin O'Leary about that coming up next hour. Mr. Wonderful is going to be here as a part of the show. So I'm looking forward to getting him on and asking him some of these questions about just the broader economy and where he sees things trending, especially in this AI world that we're continuing to go down the road of. My read on it is just talking to friends and knowing people who have... younger children who are trying to get into the workforce. I mean, mine are really little. They're seven, five, and two. So their job is, hey, bring your plate over from dinner. But for people who have kids who are now getting into the labor force, apparently that has not been a super easy process. But a lot of that, too, is also industry dependent. But that's been a struggle at this point because if you're getting automation on some of these lower level positions, it may be harder to break in. But with that also comes incredible opportunity. And that's where I'd love to see. As much as I have questions about data centers. And they're impactful and they're big topics here in Missouri and Kansas where I'm at in Kansas City. But they're also just big conversations around the entire country right now. The pros, the cons, the benefits, the downs, the downs, the downs, what they mean for communities. All those things are very important conversations to have and I have a lot of questions about them. But what are the new opportunities?

that are coming out of these incredible technological advancements. Where are we seeing them? What industries are producing more because of them? And what jobs are being created? I've never been one who's afraid of AI like taking everybody's job. Because since the beginning of time, technological improvements have just led to new jobs that we have never thought about. I saw a data point the other day, 25% of the jobs this century are new jobs that did not exist this century or did not exist before the century began. So like those things don't get nearly as much attention. But what are they? Where are those things happening? And who's benefiting from them? I think that story. is something that the president, the White House, and frankly the entire party would be wise to lean into and talk more about. Because I think that hits home and is a lot more relatable than just saying, hey, how about that S&P 500? Coming up next, the president has leaned in and has signaled a potential 2028 pick that's next.

Guy Benson, sponsored by Previgin. Previgin, made for your brain. Oh, this is great. The president of the United States, he is concerned about us right here on Guy Benson. I'm Pete Mundo in Kansas City filling in. He is talking to reporters right now from the Oval Office about executive orders tied to ending birth tourism. And he's doing, of course, as he does, Q&A with reporters there. And they're obviously doing their thing asking about everything and anything. Credit to, I don't know who the reporter was, but the president was asked about, hey, 2028, this report that says privately, the president is leaning towards backing JD Vance. This is a report from. The Washington Post confirmed by Fox News Digital that the president said during an Oval Office meeting with donors roughly two weeks ago, quote, at the end of the day, we need to elect J.D. Now, the president was asked about this just a few minutes ago in the Oval Office, and here's what he had to say. There is a report that you told donors that they need to get JD Vance elected in 2028. Is that your official endorsing? No, I heard about it a little while ago. I think he's great, but we're way too early to even be thinking about that. Well, that's what you would expect, right? We're way too early to even be thinking about that. And I don't think, honestly, the president wants to think about that because I don't think he wants to think about not being the dude. That's just he's an alpha. That's how he's wired. I don't think he wants to even really go down the road to thinking about somebody else being in that big chair. I mean, it's not like running your own company, right? You got to go. Although I know Trump 2028's becoming a great trolling meme on social media. And I'll lean into it once in a while. It's always fun. But here's what's going on right now on the odds makers call she website. JD Vance has a 41% chance to be the nominee for the GOP. Marco Rubio is at 26 and no one else is above five. Ron DeSantis, Florida governor comes in at 4.9, Donald Trump Jr. at 4. And then Tucker Carlson comes in at 3.1 on the call she website. So do with that what you want. But here's the thing. The report, I think the report was leaked for a reason.

Now, do I think JD Vance is the best general, or I should say a better general election candidate than Marco Rubio? I don't. I just, I don't. I think Marco Rubio is a much better general election candidate than JD Vance. Do I think that they're both really good options? Yeah, yeah, I do. But I believe that reports like this leak for a reason. Somebody wants them to leak. Somebody wants them out there. Maybe it's the president's team. And if it does leak, well, that's also something that I think is good for Donald Trump. I don't think that as the president, he wants people having this debate a lot publicly or even privately about who should be the nominee. I really don't think that that's good for him. I don't think it's good for his cabinet. And right now, however you feel, the reality is it's a better look to think that the president is behind JD Vance than it is to think he's behind his secretary of state. Whether it's true or not, whether he believes JD Vance is the better guy for the job and the better guy for the nomination or not doesn't really matter. It's more about what is the best when it comes to optics today for his administration right now. And the best thing today for his administration, which by the way, the country is, you know, at war right now, too, let's not forget, is to signal that you have a strong VP who you believe should be president of the United States one day. That's it. That's it. So that's where I think that this stuff sometimes gets thrown out there on purpose for a reason. And then, of course, when the president gets asked about it, it's like, oh, come on, there's nothing to see here. I don't know where you guys got that, but hey, JD's doing a great job. It's fantastic. He's doing awesome. And then everybody wins. And it doesn't shut the door on Marco Rubio at all. I mean, this is really just the next, not even chapter. It's the next page in a multi-chapter book. And you know and I know that there are going to be a bunch of people who we're not even talking about right now who are going to run, who are going to be up in Iowa for that state fair next summer, no doubt about it. Yesterday. when I was filling in for Guy. We talked to Glenn Youngkin about this, right? Glenn Youngkin, former governor of Virginia, was on the show. And we talked to him about his education program that he's got, trying to make sure states are signing up for basically a program through the big, beautiful bill that gives scholarships and school choice to kids across the country. It's fantastic. But there are a lot of media outlets calling him a 2028 hopeful. I asked him about it yesterday. And he said, nope, not about that. He shut it down pretty fast. Do I think Glenn Youngkin could look at running for president? Absolutely. Do I think Ron DeSantis will give it another go? No doubt about it. Do I believe that Missouri U.S. Senator Josh Hawley will be in Iowa for the state fair in 2027? I do.

That's a name that won't get as much national attention. But since I'm here in Kansas City, I can tell you that there have been calls and conversations made on that front. And that Josh Hawley very much wants to do that and thinks that he can kind of create this lane that blends economic populism with a Christianity flair. And that can work in Iowa and in other parts of the country. That's what he's hoping for. So there are people that are going to be coming out of the woodwork that we're not even thinking about right now who are going to be actively running in 2028. And right now you look at the odds. Glenn Youngkin's sitting there at 1%. Ted Cruz is probably going to run again. He's at 1.2%. So there are a lot of people out there who are going to make sure that their voices are heard. And we'll just have to wait to see how it plays out. But the president just saying a few minutes ago that he's not commenting on the Washington Post and Fox News report that he is leaning in on JD Vance for 2028. All right. So that's where he's at right now. The other big news of the day that we've been keeping a very close eye on is the fallout from Anthony Fauci and where all this goes. Because this news today was, it was not a shocker by any stretch of the imagination. But the news that the Senate committee voted to hold Anthony Fauci in contempt of Congress and then directly give it to the Department of Justice to consider prosecution. and not go to a full vote of the Senate. That right there was the biggest news of the day, and it was Rand Paul's decision. He could have gone to a full Senate vote, and he would have needed 60 votes to get it to the DOJ. That was never going to happen. But he thought, hey, there's not a lot of rules around this. It's not clear what exactly the next legal step is here. So I'm just going straight to the DOJ. after they voted 8-5 in the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee to hold Anthony Fauci in contempt of Congress. After last week, he just pled the fifth. It was 111 times. It was absolutely unbelievable to listen to this guy. And now it's becoming a running joke. I mean, I'll get asked, hey, Pete, you take out the garbage. I'm pleading the fifth. I just can't answer the question. How many of you have made running jokes with friends with family? Coming out of Anthony Fauci is just embarrassing and absolutely pathetic testimony last week on Capitol Hill. That was as bad of a display as you'll ever see. And he deserves the embarrassment. Does he deserve prison? You know, I'd make the case that he does. That being said, do I believe turning this guy into a martyr is in the best political interests of the Republican Party? It's not. He's already got the St. Tony thing going. He's already obviously somebody who, from the standpoint of...

You know, martyrdom is high up on their list. I don't want to give them any more ammunition to work with. I don't. And the odds are, at least based on the odds maker's website, Anthony Fauci is not likely to end up getting prosecuted by the DOJ. Is it impossible? No. Call she and Polly Maker, Polly Market. They've got it both at about 35 to 37%, give or take, that Anthony Fauci ends up. actually getting prosecuted by the DOJ. But it's more about bringing it back to the people and reminding people, you know what? He was not an honest broker with you. At one of the most critical times in the history of this country, this guy was not shooting you straight. He just wasn't. So I understand some of the passion from people like Rick Scott, Florida U.S. Center, who was on with Maria Bartramo and is like Anthony Fauci screwed this thing up and he lied and his diary confirmed that he wasn't shooting us straight. But I can't get myself to a prison sentence for Anthony Fauci. Here was Rick Scott cut 23. And there are so many questions people have. Like my daughters with little kids, do they take the vaccine? Do their kids take the vaccine? We had pregnant women in our office. Every time they go to the doctor, they had some new story. So there was no logic to what Anthony Fauci did. He just lied. The gain of function, just a complete lie. Where the origin of COVID? Complete lie. His diary showed that he believed different than what he was telling us. So I'm glad Rand is doing this. You really have to admire what Rand Paul has done to get the evidence out there, to get his diary. out there to show who Anthony Fauci is. He's going to be held in contempt. It needs to be referred, and the guy needs to serve time for what he did. That was Rick Scott, Florida, U.S. Senator. And, you know, he's talking about his daughters who have little kids. I've got little kids. They're 7, 5, and 2, my three daughters. And, you know, I only had one when COVID hit. So my oldest was like... 16 months, give or take when COVID hit. And then our second was born May of 21. So the first one is really the one that we lived through COVID with. And whether it was having a mask an 18 month old or 20 month old on a plane flight and being told by some stewardess, which by the way, don't forget, the airflow in airplanes is very good. But being told by. Airplane attendants, hey, you better get a mask on that 21 month older. We're all going to die. I will never forget that. And it's because of the voice and the platform that so many gave and the credibility. that so many gave Anthony Fauci, and I'm not talking about March and April of 2020, okay? Nobody knew what was going on. He was the top guy. You give him some leeway. You give him the benefit of the doubt. But once it became very obvious what was going on here and that, yes, it was very serious for certain groups, but you know what? You can't shut down an economy. You can't shut down your schools. You can't put favoritism for 90-year-olds over 9-year-olds. You just can't do it.

Once that became pretty obvious, you had to roll this thing back. You just had to. And the voice of Tony and so many others simply wouldn't allow it to happen. So it can be a great political win for the Republicans. It can. Do I think that Anthony Fauci being in a jail cell accomplishes anything politically? No. No, I think actually all it does is put him into that stratosphere of being a martyr, which actually could backfire to some extent and to some degree. Right now, you just want to make sure that regular people are reminded how we got here over the last six years, who was responsible for it, and how they were looking you in the eye during one of the most... important times and dangerous times in the history of the country and lying to you. And that should never be forgotten. Kevin O'Leary, Mr. Wonderful, is going to be here on Guy Benson to start the third hour. You do not want to miss our conversation. Coming up, I'm Pete Mundo on Guy Benson. Same issues, but with a fresh perspective. Guy Benson.

Pete Mundo in Kansas City filling in for Guy Benson on Guy Benson. It is so great to be here with you. As always, we have Kevin O'Leary coming up. Mr. Wonderful is just a few minutes away. And there's a lot to cover with him because he is a big data center guy. And for many of you, especially in the middle of the country, I know that this data center issue has been one that... You know, has been very, very hot. And it doesn't really cut along political or party lines. It's one of those things actually where you see the left and the right agree on. Just questioning the data centers. And what exactly are they good for in communities? Do they lead to really good jobs? Are there actually... neighborhood or community benefits to them? What kind of revenue are they throwing off for cities and counties? All these questions that people are asking, the noise issue, the water issue, the energy issue, what does it do to communities in rural parts of America? Are they using too much of the water? Do the farmers get hosed? No pun intended. All those conversations are legitimate conversations. We have them in Kansas City. Yesterday, the city council or the planning commission here in Kansas City turned down a proposed data center, or I guess recommended against a proposed data center. But it was like a 20-story data center that they wanted to put in the heart of downtown. If you're trying to build density. in a downtown part of your city, you don't put in a data center that's mostly going to sit there relatively empty. But I know, they're going to put a coffee shop on the first floor. Great. For the five guys that walk around the building and make sure all the systems are running properly, get them a K-cup machine. What's the point of that? So those things right there have been very hot topics as these companies have moved away from the coast. And they've done that because of the cost, right? They can get the land cheaper in the middle of the country. They have better energy rates in the middle of the country for the most part. And their construction costs, everything is cheaper for them. And they've got the space. They've got the land. So Virginia was on the front end. of a lot of these data centers. And these data centers have been getting built for 25 years. It's not new. It's just it's expediting because of the AI race that is happening in real time. So that's where this is all trending. That's where this is all leading. And Kevin O'Leary's been obviously a big proponent of these things. He's obviously also an investor in these things. So I think it's important to get his perspective. And I'm skeptical, I admit. I'm skeptical as to the community benefits and to the mainstream and main street benefits as to what these things are actually doing for the communities that they're being put in. We've had a lot of communities in our area fight these things tooth and nail. And a lot of them are having success. If they know about it ahead of time, what ends up happening is there are protests at City Hall. It actually brings communities together.

And they end up successfully fighting these data centers and they're able to stop city halls from going ahead with them. That's what I'm seeing. That's what we're experiencing here in Kansas and Missouri. And I know it's happening across the country. Whether it's Montana, Idaho, Utah, it is all over the place. And you have people running for office who are promising moratoriums on data centers. So it is a hot button issue. And Kevin O'Leary is going to give us a prediction on where this all goes and also a look ahead to November. Plus, he disagrees with the president on the tariff issue, which I know is a sore spot for him. We'll get to all that with Mr. Wonderful Kevin O'Leary. Coming up, Pete Mundo in Kansas City filling in for Guy Benson on Guy Benson. Raise your glass to Guy Benson Happy Hour. Brought to you by the Finnish Long Drink. Finland's most popular alcoholic beverage is taking America by storm. Visit thelongdrink.com. And now, here's Guy Benson. Happy to welcome on our next guest, Kevin O'Leary, Chairman of O'Leary Ventures, five-time Emmy winner as Shark Tank's Mr. Wonderful, joining us on the show. There's so much to talk about. I want to begin, Kevin, with the Data Center conversation. I'm a hosting Kansas City, so this is huge right now. The left and the right going after data centers, the voters on both sides of the aisle seem to not like these things. You have... gubernatorial candidates, U.S. Senate candidates talking about moratoriums on data centers. But I know for you, this is something that you believe in. You're obviously invested in. What is the biggest misconception in your eyes around the data center conversation happening across the country? I think the misinformation. about data centers but even prior to that the misinformation around adding to our power grid a lot of the litigation the complaints the concerns um started with power. And so, you know, I'm obviously put some theories out there, but then all of a sudden I wasn't the only voice. He had Senator Cotton, the president himself, talking about where's all this misinformation coming from about data centers? And partly, and I've got to take some blame for it along with other members of the industry, you know, we haven't talked about the way we build data centers today versus what we built 20 years ago in Virginia. I mean, a data, a modern... data center today doesn't look ugly. It doesn't use copious amounts of water. In fact, it's no different than a golf course in most cases. It's not noisy. It looks beautiful. And the technology is 20 years later. And so, you know, there's so much misinformation about it and that when you get a moratorium in a state like New York or the new moratorium in Texas where you can't do it off the grid, that makes sense off the grid. I mean, you've got to bring your own power.

The narrative is shifting because China is now a factor, and people are starting to realize, boy, they're kicking our butts in power, and they're kicking our butts in future compute power from that generation of new power, and they're doing it off coal. And so, you know, the Chinese aren't stupid. AI's everything about defense and medicine and arts and just society and the economy. We've got to stay ahead. What about you mentioned there, the conversation around data centers in, let's say, Middle America, which is now getting more and more of these things popping up around the country. When it comes to the revenue to communities, when you factor in some of the subsidy side, knowing full well, there's not a lot of maybe local revenue generated through jobs. What are the benefits as you see it to local communities around the country who do say yes at the local level with these city councils on these data centers? Well, let's just pull apart that question a little bit. Let's talk about jobs. That's another piece of misinformation. To build a modern-day data center, which used to be 250 megawatts, today it's 1.4 gigawatts because things have gotten much bigger, and AI is a factor, you're going to need about 3,000 to 4,000 jobs as long as four years, good-paying construction jobs. And then to maintain that data center, ongoing, anywhere from 1,500 to 2,000 very high-paying jobs. And so that's a big factor. And let's take a data center like the one I'm proposing in Box Elder County, Utah. It's made the national news. No question about that. The budget there for Box Elder is about $97 million a year. So in the first year of operation, we'll be about 30 million of that. We'll be one of the largest contributors to the county in just terms of dollars, taxpaying dollars. And then once we scale it up and it's at full capacity, we'll be over 100% of the budget. And that happened in Langley. You know, that happened in Virginia too. If you talk to people that live in Virginia, the first locations after 9-11 when they started building those data centers. It's 40% of the local budget. So, yeah, there's a lot of people unhappy, but 40% of the local budgets, a lot of money, a lot of jobs. And so I think the economic facts are what the president was talking about last week, saying, wait a second, everybody. Let's dig into the numbers here and figure out what's going on, because I think that's very important. So those numbers, are those driven by construction workers, income taxes, sales taxes? Is that the bulk of that? revenue being thrown off of the data center itself to the municipalities and the counties? It's both because you start with the construction jobs and all the workers that are coming in to build the facility. And then on an ongoing basis, you're paying taxes and operating business. So you're throwing that off. And then you've got all the people working there, 1,500 to 2,000 in perpetuity. homes, kids, children, dry cleaners, restaurants. I mean, it builds up communities. It's a good thing. And we're not talking about building a chemical factory here. This is...

Data centers are pretty clean because the way you cool these chips these days are like the radiator in your car. It's a closed loop. And the technology to turn that gas into electricity, which is where a lot of these are going now, certainly the Utah one that I'm proposing is going to use the Ruby pipeline. And to generate, the actual technology is so much cleaner, so much quieter, air-cooled combination with water, much less. And the other thing is you can't circumvent the EPA on air quality or any of it. You've got to get your permits, and that's what we're going to do. So we'll be submitting our water permit in probably the end of August this month. And people start to realize, hey, wait a second, this looks pretty good. Kevin O'Leary is joining us here on the show. So last thing on that, a couple of the things I want to do touch on here, Kevin, with you, is the data center conversation against China. I mean, I was looking at it the other day. We've got like 5,000. They've got 500. Had they been outpacing us recently? Or is it just one of those things where we want to stay this far ahead of them in this game as the AI race continues on? Let me clean up those numbers. You're right. If you just look at physical locations, but much of what China built and what we built early on was just cloud compute. In other words, where does your email go? Where does your spreadsheet go? Where does your messages go? That's just cloud compute capacity. What we're concerned about and what everybody should be concerned about is the ability to scale out AI. So in the last two years, they've built 400 gigawatts of power generation. We've built... nothing, basically, because we've been stuck in this narrative about permitting and new power. And from that, what they're building on power, they're building these AI compute. centers. And that's where you should be concerned because the war you're watching play out in the Middle East right now is the first AI war in history. Those really precision ordinance, how do you think those are controlled? They're controlled from servers stateside. I don't know where. They could be Texas. They could be in Jacksonville, Florida. They could be in Langley. You don't know. And there's a reason you don't know. It's defense. But the point is... You want to be the country that has that first, not the Chinese. Not that I don't like the Chinese people. I don't like their government. I don't like what they're planning to do. And a lot of the future of warfare will be robotics, AI controlled. We're talking about the interests of the country from a defense point of view. So we need capacity. And we've got to give some portion of that capacity. I suggest 20% of it. to the government to do what they have to do on defense. And, you know, the rest, the 80% are on the economy. But the Chinese, these dudes have a plan. I'm sorry. And I'm just one voice. But listen to Senator Cotton, listen to the president, listen to the administration, listen to the Department of War. They're getting nervous about these Chinese guys.

How about the power side just briefly as well? I mean, that's come up, especially in rural communities. Hey, is this going to increase power costs? I know it's not what it used to be, but is that a legitimate concern or is that part of this as you see it, you know, the misinformation campaign that is happening on this front with data centers? Well, power is the economy. You can't have an economy without power. We're tapped out on the grid. I am not against the president's interests where he says, look, here's the new deal for you, data center developer guys. You bring your own power, and then you give some back to the grid. Makes total sense to me. So in the case of Box Elder again, in Utah, we're going to bring the power. And we're happy to sell it back to the grid to keep prices down because we're going to build more power than we need. There's no question about it. And we'll give back. And everybody should be doing that. We're helping. It costs, let me just give you an idea what this costs. It's $16 billion just for the first phase. 50% in debt, 50% in equity. That's a ton of money coming into Utah. I don't know many states that don't want that kind of economic development. Then we build the power first, and then we tap it back to the grid. I mean, that's what we should be doing everywhere. And then people say, wait a second, this holds down my power bill in my local community, in the library, in the hospital. Yes. That's what we should be doing because we desperately need this power. So that's the first part of communicating it back, and that's what we're going to do. I'm not just saying me. Everybody's going to have to do that. We are really, really hitting the top end of the grid's capacity for the greatest economy on Earth. We can't run out of power. So it's not just data centers. It's power first, data centers second. We'll take a quick break with Kevin O'Leary, Mr. Wonderful here on the show. Come back and I want to get his thoughts on the midterms and where specifically the Republican Party needs to focus economically next. It's Pete Mundo.

with Kevin O'Leary, Mr. Wonderful from Shark Tank joining us on the show. Happy to have them here. When you look at the next 90 days or so until these midterms, Kevin, are you sensing, I know Wall Street's doing well, the markets are doing well, but are you sensing a broader Main Street economic pullback and how concerning should that be specifically for the president and his party going into these midterms? Well, I mean, there's something, there's a big disconnect here. I mean, people ask me, why is the S&P and the Dow hitting new highs? Well, because the economy's on fire. It's remarkable. And maybe Trump's the luckiest president in history because he did, he had no idea AI was coming and would provide all this productivity enhancement and margin enhancement in every small and large business in America. Because he put on tariffs, which. you know, basically have been canceled out by AI. That's what's happened here. And so he's just lucky. And yet he hasn't been able to translate the success of what most companies, and I'm very familiar with companies, five to 500 employees, that's who I finance, that's my army. We're having the best quarter we've ever had. And because the economy's doing well, the consumer, people were concerned about AI replacing jobs. We have a very tight labor market now, and wages are starting to go up. But that message is not getting out there. I think the administration has to get out there and sing the merits of what they've achieved by the numbers. Because the other problem is part of it's from the tariffs and part of it's from the stuff that's been going on in the Middle East. We got inflation here over 3%. And the target for the Fed is too, so they may have to raise rates. And that's tough. And we also got to get this thing worked out in the Middle East. You know, we've got to get gasoline down. in prices the number one input to every family and every business energy is number one input and so i'd like to see uh oil prices down in the mid 60s and i think that'll happen immediately after they work this deal out i mean i think everybody in the world wants this deal worked out enough of this thing over there that's it's enough and so everybody wants to see that worked out can if it gets worked out i mean ideally like you said as soon as possible How quickly are we looking at these energy prices coming down when it comes to the elections in November? I promise you, El Pronto. What will happen is oil will break 70 right away because there's a lot. We don't have an oil supply problem stateside. It's the world price that's got a problem because the straight of her moves is not open to let boats come and go. You need 100 of these a day going through their pre-war. That's what we had. And so whether it's worked out. with some kind of a fee or it doesn't matter japan needs the oil china needs the oil otherwise you're just supporting the russian economy and they're there at war with ukraine oil is a global price commodity and as soon as it breaks 70 bucks gasoline prices stateside will come back down now the highest prices are always california because that's a poorly run state and everybody knows that by now

But everywhere else, it'll start to come down really fast. And the president knows that and his party knows that. And that's going to be important for every race in the country. You know, there's a, what works in America is entrepreneurship. That's why it's the most successful economy. 250 years of success. There's no doubt about it. The American dream is what we export, and we've got to keep doing that. So we don't want to get too far away from that. I understand swinging to the left, swinging to the right, dead center, down the middle, support the American entrepreneur to build a business. Some of these businesses start small, get really big, and we lead the world in everything because we believe in the American dream and entrepreneurship. So every time I hear policy that's whacked out crazy. I say to myself, I don't worry because I know that will eventually fall to the wayside because it doesn't work. The only thing that works is the American dream. How about this? When it comes to what you're looking at as it relates to the tariffs, you just touched on them right now. We know there have been some refunds from the government to some of the major corporations. Should the president back off on these things? Have you had that conversation with him and has it gone anywhere? Everybody's had a conversation with him about that. There are certain things that we shouldn't tariff. Let me give you an example. We don't want to tariff oil we're importing. What's the point of that? If we're importing oil, like from the Canadians, for example, why put a tariff on that? Well, they didn't. That was smart. You don't want to tariff stuff you have to have. If there's a commodity we don't make, like pineapples, don't put a tariff on that. What's the point? I can see when somebody's trying to dump something into the market. You can tariff that. Here's another one. You know, we're talking about nuclear power being the future and, you know, getting back on board with that with these new mini nukes. Well, you need 50 million pounds of uranium a year to do that, just domestically. Who's got the uranium? A place called Saskatchewan up in Canada. Where they're going to, they're just opening a mine next week that's going to produce 30 million pounds a year. Nobody has that. And they're friendlies up there. Canada's a friendly place. We should cut a deal, no tariffs on uranium. Why would we want that? I mean, that's crazy, because right now we're buying uranium from bad guys. That's not good. You want to solve supply chain management issues? Let's buy uranium from allies. That's another example. So I'm just saying they've got to tweak the tariff policy so that you don't tariff stuff you don't have. And that's what the administration should do in the next two years. That's my advice. Not tariff everything. Tariff the stuff that you can afford to put a tariff on because it's being dumped or you make it domestically already. But not stuff you don't have.

All right. Last thing for you, Kevin O'Leary, Mr. Wonderful. I was looking this up before the interview. The way the Mr. Wonderful nickname came to be, I guess it was just in passing an offhanded comment from Barbara Corcoran, you're of course co-host there on Shark Tank. Do you like the nickname after all these years or have you just come to accept it? You know. First of all, I love Barbara very much. She's a very good cook, and whenever he gets in New York, we often get together, and she cooks. She's great. But I'll tell you the truth. The only reason she gets the shark tank set on time every year is I buy her a new broom. That's how she flies down. But the Mr. Wonderful thing, I don't know what to say about it. I remember years ago I landed in L.A. and the driver had the sign up. And it said, Mr. Wonderful on it. So I walked over to him and said, hi, I'm Kevin O'Leary. He said, no, no, I am, I'm here for Mr. Wonderful. I said, I am Mr. Wonderful. You don't know my name? You said, no, you're Mr. Wonderful. I said, okay, okay. I mean, that's how bad it's gotten. So I just live with it. But I can tell you this, though. My wife does not call me Mr. Wonderful. Oh, that's. She's probably got a different nickname that might be a little different from that one. Mr. Wonderful, Kevin O'Leary on Guy Benson. I'm Pete Mundo filling in. Fantastic, fantastic job by Kevin O'Leary. Really appreciate it, Kevin. Thanks so much for being here. Really appreciate it, too. Take care of, my friend. Thank you.

in for Guy Benson. Here's Pete Mundo. I just can't get enough of this story. Clay Travis is going to be joining us here on the show. Founder of Outkick.com, Fox News contributor. He is offering $10 million to the Las Vegas Aces to beat a high school boys basketball team. And it's like this is the kind of stuff that you think back to. And you say to yourself, you know, It's just so obvious what would happen here. We all know how this would go down. But for some people, they just can't help themselves. And no one is better at the troll game on this front. And no one is having more success at it. then Clay Travis. It's absolutely incredible to watch unfold. So he'll be joining us here on the show. Pete Mondo filling in for Guy Benson on Guy Benson. Clay, great to have you on. I just want to ask you, I saw that you just noted this on your show here earlier today that a former Vanderbilt player. texted you and told you a story about how they once played the women's basketball team. What happened there? Yeah, it's a funny story. I told it yesterday on the show, but I just tweeted out the clip. And I'm paraphrasing it. People can go watch the clip or you can play it. It's not a particularly long story. So if I happen to get minor detail or something wrong, Basically, he was dating, his roommate was dating one of the players on the Vanderbilt women's basketball team. And they got to arguing about whether the football guys, if they just put together a team, would or would not be able to beat the top 25 Vanderbilt women's basketball team. And so the trash talk kept going. And eventually they said, okay, we're going to play. And the game is going to be set up so that we've got refs. We'll have a running, you know, a clock just like a normal game would. And he said that the girls, this is the top 25 women's basketball team, playing just against a bunch of athletic guys who were playing football. But, you know, they're not a basketball team. The girls basically couldn't get the ball inbounded even. They would immediately steal and dunk it almost every time. And that the girls couldn't get the ball across half court. Obviously, they couldn't score. And that at halftime, they quit. Oh my gosh. Here we have Sophie Cunningham being the lone voice of reason it seems like right now in the WMBA. And even Sophie Cunningham is saying, Clay, hey, you know, the WMBA media is talking about everything except basketball. Now it's not Sophie's fault. But Clay, isn't the WMBA its own worst enemy right now in all of this?

100%. And it's really on the commissioner. The commissioner should, in my opinion, come out and say, look, trans people have a right to be happy and live their life as they see fit. But men who decide that they are women are not eligible to play in the WNBA. They've never said that. They won't say it. That would take, I mean, that's really what Caitlin Clark said in her response. She said, I don't think basically this should be on the players or the coaches. That's a league-wide decision to determine eligibility. And so I think the refusal, failure, whatever word you want to use there. on behalf of the WNBA commissioner has created this world and this absurdity, right? Because the coaches have come out and said, if a man identifies as a woman, then, in my opinion, they should be eligible to play in the WMBA. That's an absurd position for anyone to take. And so my response, sometimes, maybe even oftentimes, when I hear an absurd argument, is to accept the argument as valid. take it. And where it leads to me is, hey, I'm going to have an entire team of men identifying as women. We're going to call them the Nashville balls. I would like to purchase a WNBA franchise. And I think we would have the greatest dynasty in the history of sport. And so sometimes I think you can sit around and you can object to arguments. on their face and I could have an expert on hemoglobin and they could say, well, the amount of oxygen that a male is able to produce and the amount of I could have an expert on musculature and he could talk or she could talk about how much more body weight that males have and strength. And we all know men are bigger, stronger, faster than women. It's why women's sports exist. When you allow men in women's sports, what you're effectively saying is women's sports don't exist anymore because you've created a unisex world. And so I think the funnier way to handle absurd arguments sometimes is to accept the premise of the argument and follow it to its logical conclusion, which is, from a competitive standpoint, if men are eligible to play in women's sports, then an entire team of men identifying as women should be. should exist in the WNBA. Are you surprised Clay Travis joining us here on Guy Benson. Clay, how surprised are you that in this Trump era, Republican era that we're in right now, Democrats are still, it seems like, scared to death to just moderate on an issue that is so obvious to at least 80% of America. Yeah, so. I am a bit surprised because I thought from a rational perspective when the Supreme Court came out with their opinion, 6-3, that individual states, 27 of them, West Virginia and Idaho, as the chief plaintiffs in this case, that men could be restricted from competing in women's sports, that boys could be restricted from competing in girls' sports. I thought they would say, well, we disagree with the opinion, but the Supreme Court has ruled.

I actually think what happened instead is the three liberals who disagreed, Kanji Ketanji Brown Jackson, Saddamayor, and Elena Kagan are all Democrats, and they're all women. And instead of relenting, arguably, they have doubled down on the crazy. And I think it's a little bit as if they are members of a cult now, because there's a recognition that if you question the cult leader on the aspect of... At the entire edifice, the House of Cards or the Emperor not wearing clothes, which particular analogy you want to use, that all of it collapses, right? Because you'll remember, and most of your listeners will remember, back in the day we had drag queens, right? Rupal was very famous. And the idea of a drag queen was, this is a man that dresses up like a woman. But no one actually argued that drag queens were women. He's Clay Travis on Guy Benson. I'm Pete Mundo. For the full interview with Clay Travis, listen at Guy Benson.com, Fox News Podcast.com, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Coming up, the home stretch, inflation is impacting the dating world. And you won't believe how big of a snob Christine is. Don't go anywhere. It's next. Billing in for Guy Benson. It's Pete Mundo.

here from USA today this week. People are going on cheap dates and they're calling it inflatating. How the heck did we get here? Pete Mundo in Kansas City filling in for Guy Benson on Guy Benson. All right. So first off, I saw the story and I thought to myself, you know, I kind of love this. And then right before we got on the air, I heard from producer Christine. Also known, of course, to this audience as Cookie, but since I've known her for 12 years now, I still go back to, you know, your real name. And I find out that you basically dumped a guy after a first date because he took you to Outback of all places. What a snob you used to be, Christine. Some may say I still am. Just maybe ask my husband. He would never take me to Outback. Oh, my God. Here's the thing. Do you have, before I want to get to the story, but Texas Roadhouse. is like Outback on steroids. It is a much better version of Outback. And I didn't really go to it until we got here to Kansas City. And I kind of like looked down on it. Then I went and I was sold. Yeah, I don't even know what that is. I love Texas Roadhouse. It's so good. Do we even have those in Jersey? Yes, we do. You go to Texas Roadhouse? I've gone to it a few times and it is incredible. Okay. Oh, okay. Well, wow, I can sense the snob in your voice, Christine. You're going to Texas Roadhouse and coming back and reporting to me if you don't mind. I mean, I wouldn't even, I can't even fathom Bobby and I even, okay. Let me not be so snobby here. But can I say something in my defense about that? Yes. In the tri-state area, we have so many great restaurants. So, like, chain restaurants are not. And maybe I'm wrong. Chain restaurants are not as a big of a deal or appealing. You know, like I'm not running off on a Friday night to go to Applebee's. I'm going to our local, like, you know, establishment that's like higher end. Your local Olive Garden, as you said, is one of your favorite restaurants. So yeah, guy calls me. Dylan. Dylan. I'm sorry. You say Olive Garden is your favorite Italian place. You can't say that you don't eat at chain places. I don't. I've never been, I don't think I've been inside of Olive Garden, but we have at work ordered it from time to time, and it's tasty. But, like, I'm not going there, you know, on a Saturday night for dinner. I'm just not. Like, Pete, you know what I'm talking about around this area. There's just so many great restaurants. I do. There are many great local restaurants. You're absolutely right. And Texas Roadhouse is for the kids. It's not really for date night. You go with the family. Wait, what is it? It's a good time. You know what I think of, Texas toast? No, no, no, no. It's a better outback. You will get the best bang for your buck on a steak that you can find. And it's a pretty darn good steak. I'll just leave it at that. But I get your point. You want to support your local small business.

And it doesn't have to necessarily be high end, though. That's where I'll disagree. It doesn't have to be a high end. It can be your local bar. It can be your local... Oh, I support them. I'm sure. I know you do. I know that's part of what you do. I get it. I support them. Yes. You keep them in business from what I do. Sure do. Listen, I mean, I love me a dive bar. So, you know, the dive year, the better. So you can't say I'm a total snob. So what happened, though, I mean, now that people are going on dates that are... not high-end restaurants on the first date, which I like. I like the idea of that what happened when you were 21 and you got taken to Outback on a first date? I definitely pulled the, I called my friend from the bathroom and was like, you need to call me right now and say like, I have to come meet you with an emergency. I'm like, I'm out, out back. And she's like, I'm on it. Oh my gosh. What? You didn't even finish. You're acting like you took you to McDonald's or Taco Bell. What do you want to do? Sit there and be like, I'll have the awesome blossom, mate. Like, no. You don't need an accent. Don't order it. Gosh, you are such a snob. Jeez. Oh, my gosh. Bobby is on. I don't know how he's made it. How many years now? Oh, boy, 15 years married. God bless him. God bless him. No, we all say that here. God bless. God bless Bobby. Oh, stop. You know what? The beer's ice cold at Outback. I'll tell you that right now. Well, like, okay, another thing, I'm not ordering a beer at a restaurant. Like, a beer, to me, okay, Pete, maybe I have to teach you everything. A beer is really just a facilitator for your shot. Do you understand? Oh. Okay, I see how this goes. All right. So, like, that's another thing. Like, I'm not going to the outback and asking, how's your best cosmo, you know? Yes. So you're a drink snob, too. Well, you and Kate do have that in common. I'll say that much. Girls are very snobby, especially with their cocktails. Yes, that is absolutely true. Okay, so you just, so in this world now where people are kind of scaling back first dates and they're going to parks or meeting for coffee. Would that be okay on a first date? Or are you saying, no, that first date's got to be a nice sit down, couple hundred dollar dinner, no doubt about it. Um, It doesn't have to be, I guess, a couple hundred dollar, I guess. I mean, you have a couple drinks. You're 50 bucks in already. Yeah, I'm not strolling in a park with you. I'm just not. Really? No. Like, that's cute after. Like, you know, but no, I'm not going to go meet you in a park and so we can go get Dunkin' Donuts. I can do that with my friends. I'm good. I'm good. Oh, my goodness. Okay. This is probably why it's best I'm married and we all pray.

It stays that way. Please, Bob, please. Inflating and deflation, not going to happen. All right. Joel or Dylan, I don't know if either of you guys are single, married, settled down, what the deal is there. But is this really a thing, as far as you know? I mean, I've been married now, Pete, for a little over three years. And, I mean, inflating. I mean, it just sounds like. I mean, it just sounds like a first date. I mean, my first date with my wife, we went to Chipotle and went and saw a movie. Are you gagging at the fact that we had Chipotle together on a first date? Really, Dylan? I mean, come on. We went and saw a movie. It was cute. You know, we took her to the movies. Was she allowed to get a Coca-Cola and a popcorn? Oh, my gosh. We should you fall from the burrito you bought it? Well, I would say, I would say it's worked out pretty well, Christine, actually. That is hysterical. For your information, I took her to a place that has bistro in the title on our second date. and made homemade dessert for her on a picnic blanket out of the park afterwards. So we, I think I, I think I won. I won. Yes. Okay. All right. I mean, I would have skipped the burrito bowl, but sure, sure. Love was made at Chipotle. Joelle, please tell me it was better. Well, because I wanted to set off a good impression on my now current fiancé of four months, I took her to an upscale Italian restaurant in Greenwich Village. Oh, there we go. Oh, I'm not gloating here. I'm not roasting Dylan. I'm just saying because I was so worried about making this good impression. But as we pursued this relationship for now five and a half years, I thought... Okay, it would have been fine. We went somewhere simple, like a picnic or like even a coffee shop. It doesn't matter if you want to go all upscale. What matters is if the date is good or not, if the connection is there. Okay. That's right. We'll go with that. Okay. Well, you know, my, my, my, my meeting, my now wife of 12 years at this point. would kind of be in between all of you guys. I think Christine would like it. We met and were set up as a blind date for my fraternity formal at Villanova in 2008. So that's how it worked for us. So to your point, Christine, the party was on, drinks were flowing. It was a very good time. And it actually amazingly worked. How many of those blind date fraternity sorority events actually work? in terms of like a happy marriage. But hey, 18 years later, here we are. Oh, I do love that. And you're, I mean, your wife is wonderful. You hit the jackpot. You really did. I did. You're right. I mean, I'm going to get roasted for this, aren't I? Like, roasted. But I stand by everything I've said. That's fine. I will accept it. You got to stand for something, Pete. I know. I got to stand for something. Oh, my gosh. All right.

Before we get out of here, a final couple of minutes. Dylan, listen, I heard a story this morning that you were attacked by a goose. And the crazy part is it was not the first time that you have been attacked by a goose. What are you doing to be on the receiving end of goose attacks? See, I'm living my life. I mean, hashtag don't tread on me. These geese are like stepping in front of me and then attacking me. I mean, this morning I enjoy playing disc golf some mornings in the week. So I was out at our local disc golf course, and there was a herd of geese in the middle of the fairway on the fourth hole. And I said, I mean, I probably could have made a better decision, but I said, screw it, and I threw my disc. And it landed in the middle of the flock of geese. None of them moved. And so I had to wade through this flock of geese to pick up my disc for my... uh for my approach shot and uh there were quite a few goslings in this herd and i i mean there was there was a guy mowing the lawn on a riding mower probably i don't know 30 yards away and he got to witness me like sprint into the middle of this group of geese and then have probably seven or eight of them sprinting at me hissing you know flapping their wings like they do and i just I didn't even play the rest of the hole because I was too embarrassed because I saw him over there mowing. So I just left. I just went. I like skipped three holes. So I didn't have to look at him anymore. But not the first time. So is that what we call the walk of shame in disc golf? I don't even know what disc golf is. But like, Dylan, I have another question for you. All these geese around and you just didn't duck. Oh! Oh, that's very good. I don't know. Well done. Should we go now? Well done. We're at a time. It's time to go. You guys are great. Have an awesome rest of the day. I'm Pete Mundo in for Guy Benson on Guy Benson. I love me a dive bar. So, you know, the dive ear, the better.

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