Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Aug 6 2026

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Dr. Falci being held in contempt for his refusal to answer questions last week in front of Senator Rand Paul's committee. And this is what that sounded like. Cut seven as the vote was taking place. Listen. Holding a witness in contempt is a serious thing, and it should be rare. But the contempt power exists for precisely this circumstance. Oversight is not a courtesy. This committee extends or a favor a former official grants us. It is a constitutional obligation. And when voluntary cooperation ends, Congress must be able to compel compliance with its lawful demands. That is Congress's compulsory instrument. A subpoena is not an invitation. A subpoena with no consequence is not a subpoena. It's a suggestion. Seeking the truth is not a witch hunt. Accountability is not vengeance. Accountability is what stands between the American people and a repeat of the mistakes and the very real consequences of the past. Okay, Buck. We can dive into the legality here again because I still think there is a great deal of uncertainty or confusion, maybe the way to characterize it out there. individual states are going to potentially pursue Anthony Fauci. We'll see if anything comes of that, including the Attorney General of Florida, James Uthmeier, who has said that they have opened an investigation into Anthony Fauci. There are reports that Anthony Fauci's cell phone that he used during his time as an employee that COVID was going on. Maybe there will be something uncovered in that cell phone different from the diary. But this all feels like more than anything else, a sort of dancing around the fact that Anthony Fauci, it's going to be very hard to hold him accountable for anything at this point. And so it's just like a lot of resolutions are going to get past that say he's a bad guy. I mean, is this kind of where you are? I wish I could say otherwise because I know people would much rather hear that Anthony Fauci is going to face the full weight of justice for the horrible stuff that he did to the entire country and really the entire world. It's hard to even gauge. It's hard to comprehend the scale of the betrayal of his oath as a doctor. of his role as a public health official, which to me now, you even say that phrase out loud. I know Abdul El-Sayed is a public health official, too. What does that even mean? These are essentially policy people who have some connection to medicine and are willing to go along with the herd and sell out what is actually true and sell out science. And, Clay, I think that it's very unlikely. First of all, the state charges thing. People can get mad at me for this too because I know they did it to Trump in New York, but this thing of we're going to try to find some way to punish him at a state. This is a federal issue, okay? He's a federal employee. It's a federal issue.

There's not a state issue that anyone has raised of any seriousness where he is going to be held accountable for anything. So all these different state AGs, and I like the AG of Florida very much. I think he's done a great job. But that's all leading nowhere. And you guys clip it, cut it. If you think I'm wrong, we'll see. How often have we told you someone's not going to jail and they went to jail on this show? How often have we told you like Hunter Biden's getting pardoned, even though the president at the time, Joe Biden, promised officially that he would not do it. We're like, oh, he's definitely doing it. So I think our record on this speaks for itself at some level, Clay. We tell you the truth. And the truth is Anthony Fauci's not going to prison. Now, that doesn't mean that I disagree or don't appreciate it. I think what Rand Paul's done here is great. And what Rand Paul is doing is hammering home the fundamental message, which is that Anthony Fauci is a liar and the whole thing was a scam and all the mitigation measures and all the, it's the science, it's the science. It was a lie. And everyone needs to know that. And that all has to be on the right. I don't know anybody who's more... consistent on that issue than perhaps you and me here for now many, many years, I want it to be clear that the whole thing was a scam and a lie. I'm not saying, you know, then they go, oh, you should have COVID? No, of course COVID exists. It was a respiratory virus that was essentially like a bad flu season. It was dangerous to older people. None of the stuff we did made any difference whatsoever in the spread of the virus. In fact, if anything made a lot worse, I should say made a lot worse because it did. And, you know, that's what I want, Clay, more than anything. I want it to be official record that Fauciism was a failure and a fraud. The guys, what is he, 80, 80 years old? You know, it's not going to change anyone's life. If I could have what we've seen, which is the dismantling of the edifice of Fauciism for the public so that only the holdouts for political reasons, like the Democrats. are pretending that that's not what happened or Anthony Fauci go to prison for six months. He's going to be in like a senior's camp. You know, I'm just not being, again, I'm being honest with you guys. He's not doing a hard labor. You know, they're not sending him up to Sing Sing and he's going to have to like join a, you know, join a biker gang, okay? If he went to prison, it would be like six months minimum security. You know, if you think that that's going to change things, it's not going to happen. What matters is what Rand Paul is actually doing, which is getting the message across that it was all alive. So I'm all behind that, all supportive of that. But yeah, Clay, accountability. It's like going in and saying you want justice from the Department of Justice. Like, there's only so much they can really do. Here's what I will say if I need to shine a positive light on this. There we go. We need it. I think that Anthony Fauci. cares if you read that diary which is an utter embarrassment to him

I think he cares about his historic legacy more than he would care about being in some sort of minimum prison, minimum security prison for a relatively short period of time. And I think that his overall reputation is destroyed. He's 85 years old. He knows it's destroyed. There's virtually nothing that he can do. to try to change that. I don't know if you saw. He's now relegated to having his attorney respond to Aaron Rogers and tell him to stick to football. After Aaron Rogers, we played that clip for you, went on ESPN and said, hey, I was right about not getting the COVID shot. Anthony Fauci's a clown. Everybody in Pittsburgh buck cheered. when Aaron Rogers said that. You had the defensive coordinator come out and make the joke that he was Anthony Fauci. He was going to take the fifth on any question. I really do believe that Anthony Fauci's overall legacy. As a historic figure is in tatters, I bet that he can't sleep at night over his reputation, not the choices that he made, but his reputation collapsing. That is some measure of vindication, even if prison is not. Well, he deserves it, but he's not going to get it. Yeah. Well, I'll have this off, too, because I can already feel, I can feel sometimes when you are all about to light us up with either phone calls or talkbacks, and you are agitated that in this case, it would be me, miss something. The reason that I am willing to say it actually would make a difference for Anthony Fauci to spend six months in prison, I'm more focused on COVID, the legacy of what was done, the lockdowns, all of that, the weaponization of public health experts for policy purposes, the trial run of communism that we had under the guise of protecting you from an aerosolized virus that the government could not protect you from at all. That matters a lot more to me. But, Clay, they did put some Trump people in prison for contempt. Yeah. This is a now, now, so we do get into this. They did put Steve Bannon, they did put Navarro, they did put these people in prison for total nonsense, for contempt of Congress. But confirm, and again, this is going into the legal weeds. I believe they didn't show up at all. and they prosecuted them for defying the subpoena. Anthony Fauci showed up and took the fifth. So arguably, I would imagine that he is covered. There is no, you can't prohibit someone from taking the fifth. So legally, I think if you show up while it may be embarrassing and you take the fifth and it may put your reputation in tatters,

and it may arguably have been better reputational for him. You do have a core constitutional right to say. This isn't like some statute that this is a constitutional right to do, yeah. And, and Buck, they didn't show up. So if I were, I told you all that this was going to happen. If I were giving him advice, he's going to take the fifth. And look, here is where I think they really get put themselves. But couldn't Navarro and Steve Bannon just have showed up and take the fifth as well? And the whole point was they're like, look, if you make a show up, we're just going to do that. So, you know, I would have argued that they should have shown up and take the fifth. Yeah. Because then I think they would have been able to avoid, you know, potentially the consequences that they served. And look, you don't have to sell to us that we got a two-tier justice system. But I do think Anthony Fauci got a 10-year pardon. And the 10-year pardon wasn't enough to protect him. So he had to take the Fifth Amendment 111 times. It's very hard if you're a rational, reasonable human being. And sometimes, by the way, taking the Fifth Amendment can make sense. I'm not saying I'll ever do it. In the world that we live in, Buck, would it stun you if... At some point in time in the next 15 or 20 years when you and I are doing this job, if they decide that you or I are public enemy number one because of the statements that we've made, would it stun you if they start hailing people like me in front and people like you in front of Senate committees or House committees and try to just grill us? Sometimes taking the Fifth Amendment when you know you're a part of an illegitimate attack. is something that makes sense. What doesn't make sense is the combination of 10 years, 10 years of protection on a pardon, and you still have to take the fifth. Like that combination is where, when you touched on this before, what really Fouchy at this point, it's all about his legacy. And I mean, in his mind, that's what really matters. And I think that there's a big problem that he would have faced with testimony wasn't just, Hey, explain this data. He would have been the same, oh, it was the fog of war. I said this and then I got more of that. And somebody told me to look this one up and then I looked that one up a minute later and a lot of hard decisions. You know the part of it that I think he really wanted to avoid answering questions about? Hey, why are you writing on a government computer, you're their most famous man in the world when people are dying in hospitals? Yeah, that's what he doesn't want to have to answer. I think more so than the factual stuff. The factual stuff, he's very, he's done this his whole life, who run everybody in circles with bureaucratic nonsense, even though we all know he was lying. Also, what a moron. He could have just had his own personal laptop.

and his own private email address and written his whole diary down in a Gmail account. Hunter Biden could have been not high and left his laptop behind at the repair store too. It's amazing. Yeah, that's true. Amazing, some of them what they've done. All right, let's talk about something that can really help a lot of you out there. The business owners in this audience and the business operators, you guys know about business insurance. You have to have it. But who does your business insurance? Is it a broker who's really friendly once a year just to get that renewal and disappears? That's not going to cut it. That once a year check-in is not good enough for your needs. Super Sure changes the game for business insurance. Their goal is to make it easier for business owners, CFOs, and HR directors. to understand the insurance they're buying and working with. If your company has more than 25 employees and you're the owner or CFO or the HR manager, you need to know about SuperShore. Licensed in all 50 states for your business insurance and employee benefits, all with year-round support for you and your team at no additional cost. SuperShore also has a fine print fax tool, translates your current policy to play in English so you see what's covered and what's not. SuperShore's value calculator gives you a real-time value estimation of your business. Learn what your company is worth so your coverage matches your business. Go to supershore.com slash buck. See why growing businesses are moving beyond traditional brokers. That's supershore.com slash BUCK paid for by Supershore Insurance Agency LLC, a licensed insurance agency. Laugh. Learn. Hang with the guys. Right there when you need them most. Clay and Buck. Just preset them on the eye hard app. Second hour Clay and Buck kicks off right now. Thanks for being with us, everybody. Having a great time with all of you. If you were checking us out on the YouTube live stream, by the way, we had a baby speed or the speed cam, as we call it, appearance. And he is still a robust fellow, a redhead. and he's growing every day. It's a lot of fun. He's 16 months in just a few days here, so the time is flying. And we want to hear from me, want your talkbacks? You also can live chat to us in the live stream. And if you say anything particularly clever or funny, particularly if you're making fun of Clay's French class name of Gerard Bonaparte, which is still... That's, like, I got to say, was this grammar school or high school? No, I don't know. I think, I took. My wife makes fun of me because I bring it up all the time. I took one year of Latin because I was thinking, hey, you know what? Maybe I want to be a doctor. That was in eighth grade, I think. I think I took a year of Latin in eighth grade. And then I was like, boy, this Latin, not really for me. So I flipped over to French. There were a lot prettier girls in French than Latin. Go figure. And, yeah. And so I think it was ninth grade that I debuted as Gerard Bonaparte.

Because if you ask me to come up with a great French name on the fly, I don't think I could do better than Gerard Bonaparte. There's just something about that. You really combine two of the greats there. So we will continue to follow up with that, I promise. In the meantime, Trump was in. Las Vegas yesterday, and he weighed in on the Democrat primary results from Michigan from earlier this week in very Trumpian fashion. Not a surprise. This is cut 11 team. Here he is talking about Mr. Abdul El-Sayed. Play it. Every time this has happened and you do that, you go through squalor and add the word again, filth, crime, death, destruction, embarrassment. You lose your home. You lose your apartment. And that's where the communist will take us 100%. When I watch Abdul, he's fully...

He is full of it, if you will. And then Trump continued on here. This clay, I think, is interesting because we had Mike Rogers, who was running against Abdul El-Sayed in Michigan for that Senate seat. It's going to be a very interesting, very close race, I think. And... He said on our show, Mike Rogers is straight upset. He said, look, I think this guy doesn't want, you know, I think he hates Jews, basically. Yeah, I think that was quote. He said he hates Jews. I think he said the words. He hates Jews, yes. He wasn't holding back at all on this. And Trump also addressed this in Las Vegas about Mr. Al-Sygette. Play 12. The radical left, the maniacs they're trying to destroy it with the disaster known as not socialism, communism. It's communism. He's a communist. And the Poles were wrong again last night when they thought it would be a landslide victory for a hater of Jews and a hater of Israel. This guy hates Jews. Somebody said, oh, that's a little strong. No, he hates Jews and he hates Israel. Abdul El-Sayed. You believe this? This could only happen to me. Abdul El-Sayed, lovely gentleman, he's a man of hate. And now he's going around saying, no, I love everybody. He doesn't love everybody. Put him in office. You're going to find out what he loves. He doesn't love Israel. He doesn't love Jewish people. He hates him. He hates him with a passion that burns in his heart. I think he would be, I'm trying to run a quick check in my head here. Who is the most anti-Israel? Senate Democrat currently. People might start to say Bernie Sanders, but Bernie Sanders is Jewish. He's always very, very always does the parsing, criticizing Israeli policy, but he's clearly not, you know, attacking Jews specifically. He is a Jew. So, because I think what I'm going for here is, if I'll do all say I wins this Senate seat, I do think you would have the most, there certainly there's the squad in the House. And there are members of the House of Representatives and the Democrats side who are just virulently anti-Israel, and a lot of people say anti-Semitic. Abdul El-Sayed, though, would be, I think the most anti-Israel senator, at least, you know, depending on who else wins, but I think he would be top of the list. I think by a substantial margin, I'm just trying to run through off the top of my head what that would look like to compete with him. And even bold, because I think you're 100% right on that. Here's an even bolder proposition buck. If he wins, he may run for president. And some of you are going to say, wait a minute, Clay this is crazy. Think about it for a minute. Michigan is the ultimate swing state. There is wide open lane, I really do believe, for guys who are able to say, hey, I have nationwide appeal. And here's something I'll say about Abdul El-Sayed. I think he's actually pretty smart. Unlike we've debated this before, I don't think Kamel is that smart. I don't think that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is that smart.

I don't agree with a lot of what Abdul El-Sayed has advocated for as a part of his platform that he's running on in Michigan. And I hope Michiganders beat him. But if he were to win, I think he sees himself as a Barack Obama-like figure in his own mind. And I believe I'm correct in this buck. He went to University of Michigan undergrad. He played lacrosse there. It's kind of a bro sport, right? I mean, if you're able to play lacrosse. He handles the masculinity problem that Democrats have. Yes. Big time. Yes. He went to Columbia, so he got a medical degree, whatever you think. It's not easy to get into Columbia. I believe he also, am I correct in this team? He's a Rhodes Scholar. This guy on an intellectual level is... on a different caliber than Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez or Kamala Harris. And so, Buck, I think he could handle a lot of the questions and a lot of the kind of elbows that get thrown on a Democrat debate stage on a level that a lot of these other candidates could not, because frankly, I just think he's... He's operating on a much higher intellectual plane than most Democrats are. And again, when you look at the male Democrats, Who is just a normal dude that the Democrats are able to trot out there? They tried with Gavin Newsom. He's collapsing, Buck. I just think people don't like Gavin Newsom. I think he's got a California issue associated with him over the fact that he was... Count now handsome Gavin way too quickly, all right? Way too quickly. I also... We didn't even talk about this, but I actually going to defend Gavin Newsom a little bit here. His mistress of 20 years ago just wrote like a tell-all about their relationship 20 years ago. Why? Why? Like she's over 50. She's married to somebody new. She has a kid who's 11 years old. Am I crazy on this that? Hey, 20 years ago, you slept with a guy at the time. Gavin Newsom was single. It was a big story. He apologized for it. I can't believe I'm going to defend Gavin Newsom here. Well, it was the wife of his best friend at the time and campaign manager. So, I mean, it was super sleazy, yes. Yes, but we know that Gavin Newsom is super sleazy. I'm just saying, why does the woman need to write a tell-all about their affair 20 years ago? She's 55 now. She's married to somebody else. She's got an 11-year-old boy. Money and fame. This whole thing is very strange. I know you're not asking it or you are asking it rhetorically because you know, money and fame. I mean, she wants to make some money off the book and she wants to be famous for at least a while. But do that many people want to read about her affair with Gavin Newsom 20 years ago? To me, I would want, I mean, I think it's just embarrassing for her. And she's going to say, I have to control my own story. Nobody knew who you were. Nobody cared. Like, share your story privately with people if you want. Do you need to write a whole?

20,000 word piece about how you slept with Gavin Newsom 20 years ago. By the way, Abdul El-Sayed is a Rhodes Scholar. This election is going to, I think, maybe we'll be wrong, but I think it's going to be the one that gets maybe the most attention of all of the races that are taking place in 2026. I think you also would sign off on this. I think people are making a real mistake. Let me just say this. I think using this Hasan Piker guy, which I think almost no one knows, that happens to be campaigning with El Sayed. It was the lead story on Fox News the other day. The fact that they are trying to make this guy that nobody cares about, his opinions on things, a significant connector to El Sayed, I just don't think it works. I think it makes this random Hasan Piker guy way more famous, way more influential than if you just ignore him. Like the idea that he would be a lead story on Fox News or CNN or MSNBC. is bonkers. We got more people listening to this show for five minutes than have listened to Hasan Piker in his entire career. I just, I think people are elevating him and making a mistake and they're going to create a mess here. I also, let me just say this, I also don't like the precedent of if you campaign with a guy or if you go to dinner with a guy. You're responsible for everything that he's always said? I mean, this is something that I've always thought was absurd. They do it to Republicans all the time. Somebody who's a Republican says something and they all go running over. Do you condemn what? No, I didn't say it. Why the heck do I care what he said? I just think this is a bad precedent. I think we're making poor choice here. So Trump also spoke about the broad. Oh, wait, I just want to give you a little sense of where we're going here, everybody. An update from Francesca Hong about Thanksgiving. We will definitely get to that. Thanksgiving, which was, according to her, hurtful for many people. The holiday that 99.99% of Americans think of as a time to get together with people you want to spend time with and eat too much food and be thankful. You're supposed to be thankful for what you have and for everything around you. She has an update on that. We will get there. But in the meantime, Trump is blasting, it's cut 13. Trump is blasting the rise of the Marxist left from the Democrat Party. The Democrats, the commies, play 13. These people are dangerous, and frankly, they're lunatics, they're crazy, and we can't let them get into office. Communism is the greatest threat to our country in its history, including even World War I, World War II, Pearl Harbor, 9-11. I think it's the greatest threat. I could be the greatest communist in history. I tell everybody here, would you like a free house? We'll take one from your neighbor. Would you like free rent? We'll take it from whoever. We'll take your building away from the landlord that makes 2%.

And we'll run the building ourselves. What they don't say and what Republicans should say is that at the end of a year, you'll have nothing but death, squalor, poverty. You'll have a life of hell. And that's what happens every single time. It's true. He's right. And Clay, I would just note there are a lot of people that play this game. They try to gatekeep what real communism is. Or, you know, I'm a scholar of Karl Marx and Engels and did you even know and all this sort of stuff. The end of the day, communism is somebody standing up somewhere in front of a bunch of people and saying, what are your problems? I'll fix them all. Just give me the power to take whatever I need from everybody else to give you the stuff you need. That's really what communism is. Yeah. And also, I will say the Democrat Socialist of America. I actually respect the fact that they're willing to say what they truly believe. Now, we talked about yesterday, Bakari Sellers, the moron CNN, prognosticator, said somebody needs to tell the Francesca Hong, hey, stop talking to the media. Why? because they're saying publicly what Democrats want to pretend they are not in favor of. And so I do think this is so utterly significant what's going on here. And we'll continue to, we got some fun audio for you. We will play it for you. We'll also get some more of your calls. But I want to tell you as we come up, you know, it's been almost 25 years since 9-11. We are just about what? 35 or so days away from the 25th anniversary of 9-11. Buck and I are going to both be doing events with Tunnel to Towers to try to draw more attention to all the great work that they're doing. In fact, I said as a part of my $10 million basketball challenge that I would donate all the proceeds. We'd put this game on pay-per-view and all the profits would go to Tunnel the Towers because I think they're doing such great work and I'm proud of all the effort, energy that Frank Siller puts in every single day. Born on America's darkest day, Tunnel the Towers have been helping America's heroes ever since. Heroes like United States Army Sergeant William McKenna. Motivated by the tragedy of 9-11, he enlisted, served two tours in Iraq where he was exposed daily to toxic chemicals from burn pits. Less than a year after returning from his final tour, William lost his life to T-cell lymphoma. He left behind his wife, Dina, their two daughters. His widow continues to fight tirelessly for veterans exposed to burn pits. In this 25th anniversary year of 9-11, we continue to see the lasting impact that day has on our heroes and their families. The Tunnel the Towers Foundation honored Williams' memory and his family sacrificed by paying off their mortgage. Help more families like the McKenna's.

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to see whether there can be a prosecution of Anthony Fauci based on contempt charges. Buck, I did, because I'm a legal nerd, during the break, I went in and I look, because I haven't seen anybody talk about this. Has anyone been prosecuted? Not for not showing up, because that's actually been very common, but for just taking the Fifth Amendment and refusing to answer any questions. The answer is, it has occurred. Carlos Marcello Buck back in 1951, New Orleans organized crime figure appeared before a Senate subcommittee investigating interstate crime, gave his name and address, then made a blanket refusal to answer roughly 166 further questions or produce records on the ground that answers might tend to incriminate him. He was indicted. on 49 counts of contempt. He then was convicted on six counts of failure to answer questions. The district court, and this is getting deep into the weeds, but some of you are asking about this, and I'm kind of fascinated by it too, found the privilege was inapplicable to certain non-incriminating questions. such as whether an indictment was pending, travel outside Louisiana, knowledge, a particular person, certain club interests. This is kind of intriguing to me, Buck, because if you will remember, Senator Josh Hawley asked Dr. Anthony Fauci, hey, what is today? What color tie are you wearing? What is the color of the floor? Could they go into some of these Fifth Amendment answers and found that certain questions could have been answered and were pertinent? But anyway, prosecution there on failure to answer. Also, Frank Costello, major organized crime figure, gave evasive answers under oath. He was cited, indicted on multiple counts convicted in 1952 on 10 counts, sentenced to prison. So, Buck, there have been a couple of precedents where someone has shown up, refused to answer questions at a congressional hearing, citing Fifth Amendment, and then been prosecuted for them. So I do think maybe there is a bit more possibility there. than I thought just without having done research that has now been referred. I would mention Polly Market has Anthony Fauci as 37% likely to be charged with a crime before the end of the year. That's not nothing. So that's a live market. You can go and place wagers as everybody else can, predictions to be more accurate. And they have it at 37% that we may have a prosecution charge coming down against Anthony Fauci before the end of the year. That was higher than I thought it would be. Maybe it's partly based on some people having gone back and done the research on those precedents. Is that deep, legal, nerdy, enough research for you?

as a lot of people are asking this question in the wake of the criminal referral. I think that Anthony Fauci is not going to prison, but I think that the concept even being raised in a serious way, the possibility raised in a serious way, shows what a change, what a difference a few years makes. And that's a good thing because he is still unwilling. to, even for the future health and safety of the American people, say some very basic truths that need to be said, not just about what he did, but about what the country did largely in response to people like him, dictating to us what must be done. So he really shows no mercy to people who still walk around with masks on, because I do see that. You see that when you go to particularly very Democrat cities. If you're on a plane, you will see people on the plane. Not a lot, but a few wearing masks. You'll see people sometimes working in different retail establishment, you know, at the register or something, mask. And they're still terrified, obviously. And they're terrified in a way that's completely absurd and unnecessary. And Anthony Fauci could relieve them of that and also make sure that none of us have to ever deal with that ever again. He refuses to do it. because his ego, as we know from his memoir in his diary about being the most famous man in the world, his ego is more important than anything else that has come out of any of this. And that still remains the case. And by the way, we talked about before I was talking about mental illnesses and we're talking about what to do with individuals who think they're women who are men, narcissism can actually be clinical. You can be a clinical narcissist, meaning you're delusional about your importance and the way the world revolves around you. I think Anthony Fauci is absolutely a clinical narcissist. Yeah. I mean, I think that that diary is hard to argue that he is not. Okay, I want to play a couple of cuts as we continue to see if we can get the senator from Tennessee who's running for governor, Marsha Blackburn. Harry Inton pointed out something that I think is significant. We've been talking about the Abdul El-Sayed Democrat win. Here he is saying, Harry Inton saying. Actually, the Democrat socialist support is not coming from working class voters. It's overwhelmingly highly educated, high-end earners that fueled Abdul El-Sayed's win based on county vote totals. Listen to this. Cut 24. Counties, ELSAID, one of the primary. Zero of 15, zero of 15 with the lowest share of college degrees. Ergo, he did not win in those working class areas, where he did win, he won 13 of the 15 counties with the highest share of college degrees. So you're thinking about Democrats having real trouble amongst the working class. El-SAT support came dramatically from those areas, in fact, not where there is working class folks, but where there are highly educated folks, more from elite circles than from the...

Control your life 24-7, 365. Tell you where you'll live, what you'll do for your job, where you'll go to school, what kind of car you'll drive. And people are saying, no, no, no, that is not something that we are going to do. And I think that because of that, you're going to see Tennessee go even more into the Republican column. Marsha Blackburn, you are a reason, maybe the primary reason, that Tennessee doesn't have a state income tax. I think that's probably the biggest decision that anybody in the state of Tennessee had to make as an elected official in the last generation or so. What do you see in here as you travel around the state about the impact of no state income tax? Where Buck is down in Florida, they have no state income tax. Texas has no state income tax. I don't think it's coincidental that all three of those southern red states are thriving economically and have so many people moving. You're right about that because people want to be in a low-tax, light regulation, safe state. And that is one of the reasons for coming here. And Clay, you're exactly right. The fact that I stood up and fought back and defeated that proposed state income tax. And the people of Tennessee joined with me from one end of the state to the other, from Memphis to Mountain City. And it is so encouraging to me to be out and about in the state. And as we're... meeting with people every once in a while at a picnic or one of our meetings, somebody will come up and say, hey, I was a horn honker back in the day. I was out there helping you stop that state income tax or people that will talk about writing letters to the editor and helping stop that. And yes, it helped define our state. I will say this. I think that one thing it did was to teach Tennesseans. When there is a proposal coming out of the General Assembly or out of government, and we don't like it, we should stand up and challenge it. Because if it's not going to be good for our state long term, then we don't need it. And fight back against it. And that's what Tennesseans did with me. And as their governor, we're going to continue to push for low taxes. I'm going to go through and work with the General Assembly and do a Tennessee-style doge to make certain that we don't waste a dime. and that our tax dollars do not end up in the pockets of fraudsters. And that we're not continuing to fund programs that have outlived their usefulness. Tennesseans are smart, and they want to be certain the money they send to the state of Tennessee is money that is being used well.

Thank you, Marsha Blackburn. I'll say it on the show because I try to be honest. I voted for you in the early voting primary, so I hope you are our next governor. I voted for Bill Hagerty, who's doing a great job in the Senate, and I voted for Brent Taylor because I'm now in the Tennessee 9th Congressional District. I hope all three of you are able to be working together. Good luck on the trail. Thank you so much. Have a great day. Bye. That is Senator Marsha Blackburn, potentially the next governor of Tennessee. Our country can count on Israel as one of its steadfast allies just as they count on us and not just at the government level either, but on a humanitarian basis. The Fellowship of Christians and Jews was founded here in the United States 40 years ago. It's an American-based organization that's been providing valuable assistance to vulnerable parts of the Jewish population throughout Israel. The IFCJ provides food for struggling families, emergency assistance, bomb shelters. I've seen it all for myself. That's critical support for those impacted by war. Focus on Israel by the media has declined a little bit, but the fellowship remains committed to Israel's most vulnerable. no matter how many people are paying attention. You can join me and the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews praying for the people of Israel. Together, we can remind Israeli residents, they're not alone. Stand with Israel in prayer today by visiting prayifcj.org. That's prayifcj.org. Level up your brain. Mental Mugging with Clay and Buck. Welcome back in, everybody. I'm excited about this one. Flash Shelton joins us now. He is the star with his team of a show on 80 called Squatters. and Flash, I want you to give everybody your background. Welcome here on the program. I stumbled on to your show. I was up in New York City visiting my family, so I was staying in a hotel room because I don't have cable, but I was flipping around channels, and I saw Squatter Hunter, and I saw the show Squatters pop up, and I thought this will be interesting. I think I watched five or six episodes back to back. It was incredible. First, tell everybody. um if you would about how you got like before you tell about about the show tell them how you got into this you know i was i was a victim my mom was a victim and uh i you know back in 2019 after my dad passed away i i moved her in with me with you know attempting to sell her home and um You know, I was informed that people, a U-Haul truck was in the driveway and they moved in and broke in the back door and I called the sheriff and I heard what everyone else hears. It's a civil matter, nothing we can do. I was just being a good son and I had to.

figure out what I could do without letting her know that squatters existed and without her having to go through a long, drawn-out civil process. And I came up with a system and I decided that if they could take a house, I could take a house and I got him out in less than a day. That's amazing. Tell everybody what you do on the show and also give people a sense of the scale. Because I'll tell you why this really, before you lay it out for everybody, why this really matters to me. I have a number of friends who are, they either have real estate that they've invested in, single family homes. I've invested in a handful of single family homes myself. And there are a lot of people who their nest egg is this home that is their rental. And I've heard horror stories flash. I mean, terrible stuff. I've heard of people who had squatters break into the home. So never had legal authorization. And then stay for months. And then they, as landlord, after losing all that rent and paying legal bills, had to pay the squatter to leave. So tell everybody what you do on the show and the reality of the squatting problem. Well, you know, this is not a TV show for me. This is, you know, this is real life. This is not anything made up or scripted. You know, I created squatter hunters to help, you know, people that were in need, that the civil system was forgetting about and not protecting. You know, basically... I'm dealing with every state across the country and state laws vary. But the one thing that all these states seem to do is give squatters tenant rights. And that's what I'm trying to stop through law change. But I have to treat every situation differently. And some situations allow me to move in with them and become their squatter. Other situations, you know, I have to be a little bit more strategic from the outside. But ultimately, you know, I'm trying to get them to realize it's in their best interest to vacate. This is really kind of fascinating to me. It seems like this squatter concept. Maybe it's partly because of social media. I'm curious if that's what you would kind of drive it to. that people have just become more aware of this concept. And so for property owners, the danger fills more significant than it did 20, 30, 40 years ago. Am I wrong about that? It seems more organized in the way that it's being taken advantage of here. Well, I mean, you're not wrong with today's social media. You know, things can go viral. I mean, my case, my first case with my mom was pre-COVID in 2019. I didn't actually post the video until the beginning of 23. And it went viral very quickly. And, you know, and now I've taken advantage of social media bringing awareness. But.

This problem existed pre-social media. I mean, you know, my family, we were homeless when I was a kid. And, you know, and I learned very young that the civil system allows people that don't pay rents to live for free for six months to a year. And there's no penalty. There's nothing. So this has been going on for a very long time. It's amazing to see this. And, you know, one thing that I think the show really gets across Flash, and everyone should check it out. It's on A&E. The show is Squatters. That... People really suffer as a result of this because a lot of people, for example, if they want to move into this, if this is their property, they want to move into it themselves, they have to go find some other place to live for months and months on end. If it's an investment property, especially for retirees, we're hoping this will supplement their retirement income, they all of a sudden run into credit card debt and all these problems. They don't know when this person is going to be taken out of the house. They don't know or leave the house finally. It's really nasty, and you show that human aspect of it, and you also show on camera the people who think that this, the people who are doing it, they seem to convince themselves that they're the aggrieved party in all of this, which is remarkable. They are the victim. It's they have the neighbors believing it. They, they are so, they are master manipulators. They have this entitled mentality and, you know, it's, you know, you'll hear them, you know, it's my house. Get out of my house. It's, it's so crazy that, you know, in dealing with these people. And sometimes you. you like hear their story and if you didn't know better, you're going to like be like almost feeling sorry for them. But then you have to like kind of slap yourself and be like, you know, no, no, no, no. They're the villains here. Well, yeah, they're a lot. I mean, if they have no legal right to be there and they're claiming they do, right, they're lying and they're taking someone else's, taking of someone else's property. Give for everybody who hasn't seen the show. And like I said, I was just taking it. And I watch many episodes of it back to back up late one night. And good for A&E for running the sort of the marathon already. But tell some of the things that you've done successfully to get. squatters out of people's homes like what are some of the what's the more interesting and creative what's the craziest thing you've done to get squatters out you know um i think coming in with snakes is pretty crazy um some people would would you know run from that um you know so they brought you brought you brought pet snakes into the house

Yeah, I brought, you know, brought a pet snake into a house. And that's something that I really look forward to doing a lot more of. You know, there's a lot of things that, you know. So what, you walk in with like a python? I want to hear more. I'm terrified of snakes. So I want to hear more about how the snake business works here. Well, you know, I handled the snake. The snake's name was Gemma, but I couldn't tell you what kind of a snake it was. I'm not that invested into snakes, but it was. How big was it? I did enjoy it. What's that? How big was it? Was it like a pretty big snake? Was you know what I mean? Was it like one that you put on your shoulders or one you could hold in your hand? Yeah. It was around my neck and my shoulders and down my arm. And, you know, it was probably, I would say, five feet, you know. And the squatter had a particular fear of snakes, right? You knew that. The squatter hated snakes, had clay. Yeah, we had learned that the squatter had complained and had a fear of snakes. So that was just an immediate, oh, we got to try this. And also the music, is that another thing, right? Because if the, like, what, how does this go down? When you're in, I've seen it in some of the episodes, but so you're in the property. There's somebody who's there in some cases for months, and they're, you know, sometimes leaving the property in disrepair. They don't, they're not paying anything, right? They don't care. They're just staying there. They got their stuff. They're telling you, this is my house. You're saying, I have a lease to this place. If you play your music really loud, I mean, essentially, you just become like the roommate from hell, right? And if they call the cops, it's a civil dispute between two people both claiming legal residency. Yeah, at that point, it's a roommate dispute. And I can at that point just say to law enforcement and to them, well, I guess this is a civil matter. So it will be no different at that point since the homeowner's not involved than a roommate that is not cleaning up after themselves or eating the other roommate's food. you know controlling the remote control it's like those are grievances that happen in everyday households and if you want to live with me that's what you're going to go through how is it going to get the laws changed back toward sanity on a lot of this stuff where, you know, I know there are states. I mean, I mentioned a friend that was a friend of mine that had that case before where someone broke in and knew that if he, if the squatter got utilities set up in his name, which was not hard to do, and now you have mail and utilities in your name, no lease, no legal right to the premises, full tenant rights. This was in the District of Columbia. Full tenant rights.

incredibly hard to get the person out of there, took almost a year and lots of money and everything else. Are you being contacted at all by, this would really be at the state level, but is there more of a movement to get these laws changed? Because as you're seeing better than other, this is a problem all over the country. I mean, you hear these crazy stories of people that squat in like a $2 million house in Los Angeles. They refuse to leave it. And the owner can't get them to leave. I mean, are the laws moving the way that they need to? You know, I mean, everything is moving very slowly. I am in contact with several states, California, Georgia, you know, New York. And I was involved in changing the laws in Florida. Unfortunately, you know, there needs to be a solid line between squatters and tenants. And, you know, currently... It's not. So squatters are actually, it's not squatter laws we're dealing with. It's tenant laws. So they need to create laws that are completely for squatters and squatter prevention. you know, changing lease structure. I can say right now that as happy as I was to be involved in changing the law in Florida, I'm still seeing people get around those laws now because they are just going into it a different way, adapting, becoming, you know, a tenant that doesn't pay rent, which should be considered a squatter if they never had intent to... you know, fulfill a lease, which is a contract. I mean, any other contract that if you don't make a payment and you don't fulfill your obligation, that contract is null and void. And unfortunately, leases do not fall into those same guidelines. Clay, anything that is to close? You got to check the show out. I think this is super fascinating. And I know you already asked how to find the show. But in your experience, are things getting better or worse as this squatter concept goes? Are you optimistic or pessimistic about the trajectory? Well, you know, the awareness has been amazing. Now we're in the UK, the show is airing in the UK currently. This is a worldwide problem, and I see this all moving in a positive direction. Unfortunately, this is also creating sites that are coming up that are actually training squatters how to become a squatter. Yeah, I've said there are, do you come across people who almost, it's clear they're like professional or serial squatters pretty regularly now or this is, they just figure I can live rent free for as many years as I can get away with this?

Yeah, I'm coming across that a lot of times. Most squatters are people that have been doing this for years, multiple times. You know, squatters are not homeless people. There's a homeless problem, but homeless people don't, they don't break into your house and claim squatter rights. Homeless, that's just not what a homeless person does. So, you know, I think that the road to change is going to start with people recognizing what a squatter is. and what a homeless person is, because the people that are defending squatters thinking they're defending homeless, it's just hurting the cause. Yeah, they're just defending scammers, people that do this intentionally to take from other people. Great stuff that you're doing, man. It's a really, it's important work, and it's a really engaging show. And anybody who's ever been a landlord before, which I have, and also been a renter many, many times over. I think you'll really enjoy it. The show is Squatters. It's on A&E. Flash Shelton. Stay in the fight. And if you need us to have any state reps or anybody on to get some of these laws looked at, you come back. You let us know. Yep. Send them all my way. I will help write the bills. So we were just talking about people. Thanks so much, Flash. We're just talking about people staying in homes that they shouldn't be in. But something you should always be thinking about is the home that you should be in needs to have a sturdy roof. And we were just talking to Flash about protecting homes. Roof is critical for your home, as you know. An Erie home is who you need when it comes to making sure your roof is in good shape. And if you need repairs, they're who you want to go with. They'll inspect your roof for any problems free of charge. They've been doing this for 50 years, by the way. They have a 25-point inspection that they've developed over many years in business. So if your roof needs replacement, Erie Home offers all kinds of options, including the use of newer metal materials that are made to mimic the look of your current roof, whether that's dimensional shingles, woodshake, or barrel tiles. Your new roof will look great. It lasts up two to three times longer than traditional shingle roofs with proper care and maintenance. Your new roof from Erie Home comes with a 50-year transferable warranty. If sell your home, you're providing even more value in that process. Schedule your free inspection today at eeriehome.com slash buck. Get up to $1,200 off any installation work that needs to be done. That's eR-I-e-home.com slash buck. Offer $1,200 off is valid for new roof installation only, valid on new roof installation only. Minimum purchase required and restrictions apply. See rep for warranty or promotional details. Miss the show while you're on the go? Wind down your day with the daily review podcast. Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.