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Do you have one week away primary day fever? Do as the fever glommed on to you, Dave Harrigan, one week from today, if you want to vote, August 11th, you can have your opportunity. Zero to 10. What is your excitement level? For primary day, Minnesota, 2026. Dun-d-da-da. I mean, you're normally sound guy, but I just thought I'd throw that in. I didn't really care for that. Dun-ta-da. Election 20206 continuing coverage on New Shock 8-3-O-W-CCO. Brad can use any of those. He probably won't. Yeah. How do you know? I have an ear for things. Clearly you don't. Folks, you have an ear for things. 651, 461, 9226. Who, Alexander Graham Bell? Yeah. Right? Mitch Album, big ears. Marco Rubio, big ears. I have normal size of ears. I have good size of nose, but normal size ears. I think. I mean, what do you think? Kind of normal? Yeah, for your age. Don't get. 651, 461, 9226. Do your years get bigger or smaller as you age? They get bigger. The ears get bigger. The ears, I believe that's true. Your ears continue to grow. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. joined us now. Do you have any proof of that, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.? I can look it up right now. I'll Google that stuff. I feel like 651-4-6192-2-6, my fingernails are growing more the older I get. Does that make any sense? No, that doesn't make sense. Also, I guess I'm wrong. Tears don't actually keep growing. Instead, it seems that way because gravity, loss of skin elasticity, and the breakdown of cartilage make them look longer and larger. So they actually just stretch out, but they're not actually growing. You know the nickname for my skin is? Elastic. It's very, the skin is very elastic still. Very proud of you. Yes, very proud. I haven't shrunk either in height, by the way. In fact, I might have even, there are some people that grew quarter inch in the last 10 years. Well, well, well, I've heard you can grow a quarter. I kind of walked into that one. I really... My last physical, they told me I was an inch taller than the previous one. I thought that was pretty good. What is that? Like 5'2? Shut up. Oh, get out of. Come on. You had Carter both are... An inch taller than the average American male. No way are you 5.10. Look at this. Again, you're like my kid. My oldest kid, Hunter. He's about the same height as me, but he's got the better chin than me on the...

Not tough. Oh, yeah, because your chin makes you tall. And then he juts his chin out upward. Like, come on. Does he put his chin over the top of his head? Yeah, he does. That's a trick. He should go on to America's Got Talent. That's a hell of a trick. That's what you get. Are we talking primary day? Sure. What? No, why not? Zero to 10. Are you excited for one week from now? Look who, Esmey Murphy, I don't know, looks like a hostage tape to me. What's going on here? Where is she? In the CCO bunker. And then she's interviewing Mike Lindell. Let's add this, 651-4-6-1-9-226. Who's going to win? Who's going to win the two heavyweight races? Mike Lindell, Candlequalls, Lisa Dameth, That's heavyweight race number one. Governor, that's got to be number one. I'm just a hunch. Amy Klobuchar is going to win. That's the edgy commentary. I'm going to give you. She's got a good chance. Has she even campaigned one day yet? Is she going to campaign at all? Or she just going to be like, from Royce White to Mike Lind to Austin, D.C. I think all you need is your name on the ballot when you're aiming. That's a pulse. That's good enough. And then Angie Craig or Peggy Flanagan. And also, do you normally vote on primary day? I rarely vote on primary day. I'm pretty much there for the big time one. I don't view myself as a Republican or Democrat. You're a main inventor. I'm a main inventor.

I don't think I'm voting. I talk politics a lot. I care who wins. I'm not voting for Mike Lindell, just a hot take. But I think he's going to win the nomination. I think Mike Lindell is going to win, and I cannot believe I'm saying that. I can't believe. How many that will undoubtedly vote for Amy in the general election do you think would show up, get their Republican ballot, and vote for Mike Lindell? 651-4-619-226. Do we think any significant numbers do that? Like, what's a significant number? Would it be 510? I was going to say, are there 5,000 Democrats? who would say, just to make sure Lisa Demuth doesn't catch fire. And catch on and all of a sudden out of nowhere, it's a pick-em race with her and clubbyshire. Let's put Pillar Man in there. Yeah. And we're safe. It's very clear the Republican state leadership has no interest in Mike. Boy, is he pushing back strong. Wow. Pleckish is going after. Pleckish is. Hey, we're doing a show here. Okay, come on. Oh, whoa. It's the Italian. Was that for Big Pussy and Soprano? He left us. Carter back in 15. Yeah, Plectish. I'm trying to remember. It's good to see, by the way, Ken Martin has been incompetent in D.C. He's a jerk, Ken Martin when you deal with him. At least when I dealt with him, he was very condescending. Didn't really appreciate. Ken, when you'd ever... If you basically didn't carry the water. A couple interactions with Ken. Not a lovely human being. Okay. Pleckish is not really thrilled about the Mike Lindell opportunity. He is not. So I would go Lindell at this point, and I'm most likely not voting. I will also... I'll ride the... The lefty waive, I'll say Peggy Flanagan's going to win. And part of it is enthusiasm with both those folks. Are more people more excited on a Tuesday night when it might be nice in August? And you could do whatever you're doing. All day to vote, obviously, not just tonight. To go out and vote. And if you're going to fight, this is an enthusiasm situation. This is an energy situation. I just think the Lindell folks are more passionate than the Kendall Qualls and Damath ones. And I think Flanagan also, I think Craig is a much better general election candidate. I think Damath is a much better general election candidate. I think Michelle Tafoya would like to vote 50,000 times for Peggy Flanagan. She wants, I would assume we've not had this conversation. I'm guessing we'll ever at the fair? Do you think we'll ever at the fair? I have a feeling. I would think so. She joined us for a lengthy visit, about a 20-minute visit, maybe six weeks ago or so. And you asked her who she preferred, and she immediately, without hesitation, don't care. She views them as nearly identical candidates. They're not. I agree. They're not. That's what a candidate.

Should say. Michelle also continues to run a race where if you didn't know, you'd be convinced she's running for governor. Because every issue is fraud, Minnesota this, Minnesota that. Issues that matter. She's running for Senate. How about Iran? How about Todd Blanche? How about affordability? Senate issues. If we get the chance to chat with limo at the fair, that will come up. What is your excitement for the primary? It's one week from today. Zero to ten. Zero, you have none. Ten, you're on fire. Who do you think is going to win? What will bring you out if you're going to vote? And do you think anybody really – I know some people do. But are the numbers really significant of – Republicans, as example, who are desirous, please give us the lieutenant governor, who doesn't want to acknowledge that fraud happened. Her answer on that is below feeble. And our Democrats saying, oh, Amy's basically on opposed, so let's just put down Mike Lindell and make sure Amy wins by 15%. A lot to talk about the primary phone calls included. Encourage. Text also. 651-461-9226. I can grab a couple calls there. Dave, you can have something breakdown at your house. How about in a couple months when it's winter when the furnace breaks down. Or how about you want to make sure your furnace is ready? How about now? It's so beautiful out today with the mid-70s and cool. You don't even need your AC on today, but what if that AC breaks down? What if with Aquariusomeservices.com you have a Connecticut drinking water system and the rare time, it's not working. You need one of the plumbers, you need one of the HVAC experts, you need an electrician. If you go with Aquariushomeservices.com right now for any service, $98 off, $98 off on any service performed at your house, air conditioning, furnace, water softer, drinking water system. This company Quares around since 1987, earning the right to be recommended. I've been a customer since 1993. I trust them 100%. Check them out. Aquarius homeservices.com. Hmm. What do we got here on August 4th for our bumper music theme, sir? You can maybe guess who's blowing that trumpet right there? Probably Louis. That would be Louis. Satchmo, Pops, Louis Armstrong, born 125 years ago today on this date in 1901. So we're starting with Louis, but we are playing music from bands that feature a trumpet. Oh, okay. I didn't know if you're going to go famous Louise. No, we're not doing that. Okay. Trumpets heard in every song we've got today. I like it. Let's go to call it first. Rob has called in. Rob, thanks for listening to C.C. What's on your mind? Oh, you had, I'm just going down the highway, and I always tune in at the top of the hour news. And I'm pleased when I catch you, Chad, on the radio. Thank you.

My belief is that Lindale is going to take it on the Republican side and probably Wobachar is going to do it on the Dem side and on this primary and it's going to be a real horse race getting to the main election this coming fall. I'm in fact on the highway because I'm on the way to put in my boat because I can't be in town where my home is on boating day. Most of us, I would say this. Let me just ask you this from. Most of us do not believe it's going to be a horse race that if it is Lindel, Amy Klobuchar cruises, why do you think Mike Lindel can win over some moderates. He will win MAGA. There's no doubt. Many moderates right now are not real high on the president. I can give you the date on that. But Amy Klobuchar will dominate the metro area, as all Democrats do. She's actually had some relative success out in greater Minnesota compared to other Democrats. Why do you think this race will be close?

I think the media is going to have to really take notice of Mike after the primary this next week, because I do honestly believe he's going to come out on top. He is also making clear all these things that everybody is jabbing at him and wants to knock him down. You know, a Minneapolis paper had in there about all his lawsuits. Well... They're all accurate. Everyone's accurate. Yeah, but they have been dropped. That one on set-tack for that. No. They have not all been dropped. They have not all been dropped. They have not all been dropped. No. Rob, every lawsuit has not been dropped. Rob, every lawsuit has not been dropped. Come on. Not every. No. The big one that really crippled him in his company has been dropped. When a conservative group bought said company, that is sympathetic to him. Yeah. Well, he's going to counter it. He so says so because it's just been a lot of jabs at him. And then the fact that he's... tossing pillows out to people. I go back when Mike was in the Coliseum at State Fair, giving out pillows when he was trying to get his company employed. Sure. I mean, that one to me is more minor. I mean, I get there's a line of how much can you give out. against the state regulations. To me, the pillow thing should be a minor deal. Rob, thank you so much for listening. Drive safe. Go there and vote and call in again. Appreciate it. Our guy Jimmy Runzel has called in. Jimmy, we both love music. Today is the funeral for Glenn Hansert. Are you a fan of Glenn's music? A little bit. A little bit. Okay. But, you know, I'm getting this low-class dimension. I can't remember hardly anything anymore. So I'm just, you know, I'm happy that I recognize my wife and my two kids. So. But I also recognize 830. Thank you. And it was just, it was interesting, you know, to hear this gentleman talk about Mike Lindell. Personally, you know, me being, you know, solid blue Democrat. I think there's going to be a blue wave like no other come to midterms. And I think Amy Klobuchar is going to win. And... You know, it's just I feel and have a lot of friends and both my partners. As a matter of fact, this weekend, I was with both Brian Blair and Greg Gagne at that doggone SummerSlam. It felt like I put 40 years on my life, Chad, because it was like an 18-hour day and there was people. And it was so loud in there. But, you know, that's just the way I feel. And, you know, I wound up.

Being around Trump in 86 when he ran that doggone WrestleMania at his New Jersey. Yeah. Yeah, and he, oh, my God. His wife was wonderful, but he had two bodyguards on each side of them. And I remember at the end of the deal, they had a party. And Brian Blair, who is just to, you know, he loves to carry Trump's water. And he said, come on, Jimmy, we're going to meet Trump. And I said, no, I ain't going, go ahead. So, but that's the way it is. And I just hope that, you know, it's a fair election. And he doesn't try to. you know, circumvent, which he's going to try to do. So I don't know. I'm just ready for a big change because I think our democracy and our Constitution are at stake. So I appreciate the time. Yeah. Let me ask you one thing, though. With the power of DSA and some of the things they're saying about abolishing the Senate, defunding the police, no prisons, no borders, you don't think that's going to hurt the Democrats? Well, I would like to know how many of the major candidates sign up for that bullshit. Excuse me. Because that is just not the American way. We need all the regulations we can get that are enforced right now. We need borders. We need police. We need this. I mean, that's the way the world is. And, you know, I'm just hoping that, you know, things turn out. You know, because I, you know, and Trump won third term. Holy Jesus. Oh, yeah. That's not, that's not been eliminated. Yep. Thank you, my friend. Stay healthy. Yeah. Do you still have, do you have, do you have, I just was cleaning out some stuff, and I found your dad's picture on a stick. I bet you have plenty of those. I got a couple of those. I got a couple. He kept a few of those. All right, Jimmy. Take care. Okay. Bye-bye. Let's read a bunch of texts here, and then let's get to ask with Adam. As a right-leaning independent, if my options on election day are Colobeshire and Lindell, I'll just stay home. Michael Lindell, more tech. These are all texts. Trump taking loyalty over any ability or talent at all. How anyone consider voting for him is absolutely beyond me. Trump says it all the time. If you like me, if you're loyal to me, I like you. Another text. This is what we become because of Trump. I can't believe you're so against a brewery celebrating Trump's death. They're in advocating violence. Well, that was last week where that came up. I know Adam talked about it. This is our funky texting system when things have popped up. I am not for a brewery celebrating Donald Trump's death. I'm not. Are you? I think it's gross. No. I don't agree with them. I never would vote for them. I'd vote for like $340 million over, but no, I'm not going to celebrate if something happens to Donald Trump. And they were sanctioned by the governing body. More texts. I typically lean Republican and be voting that way in the primary, hoping his hope to get pillow guy off the final ballot. My guy Mattel dropped out. Chris Mattel in studio with us today.

Your buddy, Dean Phillips, is supporting Angie Craig and moderate. I'm surprised you would also do so at the voting booth. I've made a very crystal clear that I would select Angie Craig over Peggy Flanagan, much closer to my apologies. I'm not going to vote for someone just because a buddy is going to do it, though. I'm going to vote because that's where I stay. So if I would vote, Angie Craig would get my vote. And I get that you, I mentioned I'm not a Republican or Democrat, but you have to vote for one side. In most general elections, I go back and forth. I really do. A lot of times, independence, and so that's why a primary doesn't appeal to me as much as others. Let's get to a couple more texts, and then let's get a lot of texts, because Adam's going to join us in just a matter of minutes. Ask Adam, anything. 651, 461, 9226. I will carry over on the political conversation just a little bit. I know you talked to the monitors, DOJ, which is a very good conversation. Number of texts are saying, well, you're underestimating the power of Trump with Lindell. The loyalty that Trump has for Lindell has definitely played a part in his lead. But Donald Trump has lost this state three straight times. Right. This guy, Harry Enton, and thinks very good on CNN. He pointed out today, how about this drop with Donald Trump and moderate Republicans going back to 24 in the heart of the race? Overall against Harris, moderate Republicans were plus 69. on Trump. You know where they are now, according to Harry? Plus 10. Oh, geez. Moderate Republicans on the economy compared to Harris. Plus 80. You know where they are now? Plus three. So this idea that moderate Republicans are going to rally to Mike Lindell's defense, get outy. And they've never been a moderate Republicans in the state have never truly been. in that category as much as moderate Republicans elsewhere, I think. Yes, I agree. Among the texts, what is Adam's favorite pillow and why? Hmm. I do own a my pillow. You do have a my pillow. I do. You saw how that clown acted here a few times. Correct. Just a lout. Yeah. Just treating people. I remember Jay Daley was here. Yeah. And he was just screaming at Jay. And Jay had to put up with it. I was like, It's an average pillow at best. Whoa. What a lefty you are. Right. I'm sorry. Did Obama tell you to say that? Yes. He's right here with me. I have a sleep number pillow that's pretty good. Do you like a flat one? You like a puffy one? I like the down pillow. Down pillow? What kind of cuddler is Adam Carter? I'm good to start, but then I have to separate. You like space. Yeah.

How about this text? 651-4-6-1-9-2-2-6. Adam, how do I get to heaven? Here we go. I'm taking notes. What do you got? The road to heaven is paved with good intentions, I'm told. Just be a good person. How about that? If you're not a big believer in heaven and kind of think there is an afterlife, can you just go at the end when you're near? Thank you, my father. I've sinned. Please welcome me. Please welcome. Can you just do it right at the end? Can you wait until the end and just say you've always been my guy? I think you could find a theologian who would say that that is acceptable, but probably you can find just as many that would say no, no, no, no. Dave Harrigan, you can't just say, hey, on the way. I'm clean. On the way out, can you just say, I apologize. As a born and bred Catholic, I think that means you got some time in purgatory. Yeah. We appreciate the sentiment, but you're going to have to chill there for a while until we get you cleansed. Chill? I hear it's not really chilly. Jamie Eukis is normally on with us Tuesdays at 235. She is taking the entire week off to celebrate her birthday. Does ask Adam anything approve of that decision? Is it a big birthday? No. It's just a run of the middle. I think she's like... It doesn't end in a zero or... Forty-five? I was thinking 43-44. Yeah, that's... You know, a big, like a 50? A whole week? Yeah. If you want to do a birthday vacation, but... Should we dock or pay? That's two. How much of a pay should we take away from her? Maybe cut one week out of it. Cut one week. Can you get the... Ten grand about? Okay, that's 15. 15 grand. I'll get a bite. That makes it bite. Adam, did you ever participate in theater? If so, production in part, you played. One time, I was in a stage production of the Walk is Life. Walk is Life. What was the dire straight? Obviously, the Walk of Life. Walk of Life. Where it was a, it was a bunch of skits, and I did a skit. Where was this at? This is at South St. Paul High School, and I was in ninth grade maybe? No, maybe younger than that, like eighth or seventh grade. Where I played in. You already were in high school in seventh grade? What's going on here? I played an exterminator. I portrayed an exterminator who came home from the job and his wife was there. I think it was a Carol Burnett. Is this a Cinemax thing that used to imagine? The Red Shoe Diaries. Uh, no, and I remember there, there were two performances in the first performance. I remember there's a six-pack of Coca-Cola, and I cracked one of the Coke cans open, and I started slam it. Method acting. And my wife said, Willie, that was my name Willie. Yeah. Are you drinking again? And I remember when she said that, got a huge laugh. And then a couple of lines I had got huge laughs. And then the second night, it's like De Niro and Merrill Street. Listen, I'm setting up. No, I'm setting up. The next night, I really played it up. And it didn't hit. It didn't hit. It didn't hit. You got to stay in your lane. And you got to know your limits when you play. They say comedy is the hardest acting. And when you play it up too much, I learned my lesson.

It was in this room at some point early last year. The seats were reversed where I was with you and David and I was needling you about something you said, I'm going to do that one act play. No, it's just going to, not one act. It was going to be, like, I wanted to get into, like, maybe a role in a community production. I thought you're going to do the Adam Carter one act. I'm not that confident. How many times can you say, are you drinking again, you know? Okay, so where are we at with the... Yep, still waiting to pursue that. Yeah. Add it to the list. What efforts have you made so far? Zero. That would be zero. Yeah. I mean... Chris Hawke was just out at Shanahas and dinner theater and guys and dolls. Was he in guys and dolls? I believe so. I bet it would be excellent. He's a renaissance, man. I think you would be very good. Would you like to play a villain or the good guy? Oh, I think I'd like to play a villain. David, wouldn't you rather play the villain? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Much more fun and it might be easier, too. Make it's easier. Might be. Depends on the part a little bit. But I think being a bad guy, like any professional wrestler will tell you, it's easier to be the heel than it is to be the baby face. Speaking of wrestlers, I was off Friday, but I heard who was the guy at the Bone Crusher? Bone Crusher Smith. Bone Crusher. I did see him at Robbins Days. And he was pretty darn good. But he... He wanted a piece of you, man. Still bitter, yeah. Still bitter. He's throwing out accusations, and I wasn't there for it. I'm just asking the questions. I think you were a bit afraid. I thought you baited him a little bit. I baited him a little bit. Yeah, I mean, come on. But he's a heel. I mean, you bait the heel. You bait the heel. All right. In fact, let's just take a break right on time, which this show is known for all the time. 651-461-9-226. Mora asked in moments on CCO. A music with trumpets. Yeah. Louis, 125 today. You got it, Nathanieler for the night sweatsets. He's pretty good. Yes, he is. I saw them live. Right before COVID. They're at the surly lawn. I feel like that's really great. I feel like that's when they're really popular. Is he slipped at all? He does like solo stuff, part of like a little bit. Okay. Adam, what is your favorite wiener to eat on Weiner Wednesday? Yeah, Chris Mattel, the man who was a product. Did he ask that question? Yeah, I'll in studio today, 205. I can ask him, have you ever considered doing a Wiener brand commercial? Now, you might have missed this. It was a week ago we had the frequent debate of Polish.

where I succumbed to peer pressure. And he said on the next day on his show, he goes, you know, I got to address this. I was battling peer pressure yesterday and I succumbed to peer pressure. What sort of peer pressure did we provide to him about the Polish brought hot dog debate? Did we brought him? I don't remember that. If you're not succumbed to peer pressure, what is your ranking now? It's hot dog first. Really? Polar second and a brat. Oh, my. Had a couple brought, based on the conversation on a couple brots the other day. I had some jalapeno popper brats over vacation. Just cream cheese in them then, too? No, no, no. It was really just the heat you got. Okay. Oh, it was. They were really good. Cheese does not belong in either a hot dog or a broth. That's 100% right. No, you're both wrong. My gal showing again her whiteness, the salsa she bought the other day. I go, Norwegian salsa. Did you fly to Jon Ossoff and get this? She's like, I know you like it really spicy. I don't. I'm like, what is this? Oh, man. Mrs. Renfro's ghost pepper salsa. I've had that. It'll melt your face. It's so hot, but it's so good. Michelle would be in the fetal position. Oh, it's so hot, too. I mean, like ridiculously hot. I really hope Lindell wins, just for the sake, a comic relief. I'd love to watch him sputter and huff his way through interviews. Zero to 100, Adam Carter. The chances, Mike Lindell is the next chief executive officer of the state of Minnesota. Point five. Point five. Dave Harrigan, over. I'll take the under. I also will take the under. But I'm saying he's going to win the primary. You're oh, yeah. He's got the steam, yeah. Now, a text you pointed out the Lisa Demuth folks might be kind of line in the weeds. They're not talking that much. Kendall's out, right? Yeah. Why didn't Lisa Demuth participate in the E.E. Kathy Wurzer. I don't know. Right. Seems like that's a pretty prominent way. Yes. You know. Point out, hey, I'm normal. This guy's not. Just listen to him for a little bit. Our friend Mike is called in. Mike, thanks for listening, as always. What's on your mind, sir? Hey, fellas. You know, now that it seems that junior high has gone by the wayside. Now it's called middle school. So now that we have a high school, we have a middle school. Shouldn't the other one be called low school? Or small school? Yeah. Or change high school to large school, middle school and small school. Yeah. Would that be offensive? Would the parents of the kids be upset? Oh, well, 100% yes, because they're upset about everything. That's true. That's a very good point. Thank you, Mike. Appreciate that. Adam, dating device, please. I'm finding very difficult to find quality nice guys after 60 to date. I'm not in the internet dating. I just want to find a nice guy to spend quality time with. Where do you find them? Thank you. Is this like from Susie? 60? 60? Was it 6-0? After 60. You're not that far away, buddy. Oh, oh, age. I thought they went through 60. No. No, I do know a friend, by the way. Yeah.

where he and his gal are great together now. But after her divorce, she dated 36 guys. Wow. 36 guys. And she kept a chart on it. A chart. So they are listed on my phone in a texting thread, 36 and 37. Wow. And she's a catch, man. Yeah. So is my guy. Maybe should this woman develop a chart? That would help? I'd say a bait store. A bait store? Yeah, go find a guy at a bait store. Dave Harrigan, if you were providing help to a female who is important to you, 62 years of age, where would you recommend? Church. Church? How about a pickleball? I was just thinking pickleball court. Yeah, it's a good one. Pickleball court. Faking injury. Yeah. Hopefully you're faking an injury, you know. Let's see. Regarding at the end, if you haven't been a big believer of heaven, can I just say I didn't mean to? You know, you made a mistake or two, right? Let's see. Chad, Michelle is running to represent the state of Minnesota. Yeah, but she's voting on national issues. I was making the point that limo, every time she does an interview, every ad is basically a gubernatorial ad. Right. And she clearly has been coached up to do that, right? Can you all finish the debate at the state fair and actually brought a hot dog in Polish? Do they even have Polishes at the state fair? Do they? There's got to be someplace that sells a poll. We'll find one. We'll get you one. Adam, if you could go back and relive any day from your life thus far, which day would you choose and why? Another just tremendous question. That's a great question. I think it's just based on pure joy and emotion, December 10th, 2006. The day Morgan came into the world. That's no offense to SIG, but that sounds like it is, Dave. I mean, don't you hear that? Second time around, you know, I was like, that's great. I'm going to go to the bar. Well, I do. I'm not surprised by that because about five years after we met, you go, I think I've been mispronouncing my daughter's first name the entire time since she's been alive. Is that true or not? It's true. But I've been told now there's different pronunciations. SIGNA. Cigna is, but it's different dialect. Cigney is acceptable, but Cigna. So where are you now? I still, I just say Cig. Cigna. You're afraid, aren't you? I just like Cig better. That's why we named her Cig. I just call her Julie. It's easy for me. By the way, multiple spots you can get a Polish at the fair. Okay. Good shape. Let's do it. You'll stick around plenty of times, right? Oh, heck yeah. Yeah. Said hell yeah. Hell yeah. You can say hell yeah. You can't say what Jimmy said. Thank you, Jimmy. Adam, how do you envision retirement once you bid CCO adieu? Hmm.

Lots of travel, but still doing something to keep myself busy. Time in the winter home in Chicago too, right? You had winter home in Chicago? Beach, a little time of the beach, Lake Michigan, December. 50, I assume we're going. 50's great. How much fun did we have at Chris Stapleton in there now? Fantastic. What a venue. I think we had a 10. With the gals. The venue is spectacular. All sorts of ways to get in. Buddy John. Tenden Bar. That was, John was phenomenal. Seeing people go to that amphitheater. Yes. Right? I know I had a few people yesterday who have had some bad experiences. People are standing up all the time. Oh. That's a part of the concert. Part of the deal, yeah. Thank you. You bet. Adam Carter, winging it Wednesday, starts off their show tomorrow at 9. Let's pause. ABC. Susie, next. Before the festivities finish and the shock, Jason Rush, steps in. We're going to have a twin ticket Tuesday. You want to tell me for which game there, sir? Yeah, we've got a pretty good one. We first should mention it is sponsored, of course, by Luther Key of Bloomington, new showroom. Speaking of the Shock Jock. Also check them out, Lutherkey of Bloomington.com. It would be Twins and... A little Bryce Harper, a little Philadelphia Phillies in town. That's the one coming up. Luis Arise. That's right. Now on the Phillies. That's right. Sunday, next Sunday the 16th. Check that one out. We've got a four-pack that. You just got to hear the thing. Once you hear the thing, you'd be caller three. And then we get your tickets, which just happens to, of course, be Kids Day at Target Field. You get the free ice cream for the kids, running the bases, the whole thing. It'd be a good game to go to. Do they play? A Field of Dreams the day before? When did they play the Phillies? They play them on a... It's a Thursday, I believe. They play Field of Dreams because they have the Friday off. Okay. I was going to say they're not doing four games on the Phillies, are they? All right. I got it. I'm going to say the ghost of old Tom Morris. That's who I'd like to wish explosive diary on because the game of golf has been... torturing me all year. What do you mean? I thought just a week ago or something. Did you have a heck of a night of a day out there? For one day, it was 143 for two rounds, and then the next day it was like 143 for one round. Well, feel better that even in the very first round of golf you've ever played, whenever that was. You did not play as mind-nummingly awful as I did a week ago. So you'd like to wish explosive diary and old Tom Morris also. That would be okay. Yeah. Do you have somebody else? No. That's it. We're going after a ghost. Zero people. New Supreme Leader. Vladimir Putin. No. No? No, no. Explosive diarrhea, not good. Not good. So, no. Hot take, Dave. I mean, I really have bold, bold of you to say that. No, I don't wish it about anybody. Not good. You know it's not good, the financial situation that too many people face in our country. I got two sets of date, and then we'll get through the explosive diarrhea wishes. We're coming in a lot. I hope so.

Who do you wish explosive diarrhea on? Like, is her an ex-husband or a former friend or maybe a former boss? I mean, how long does it need to last? It's like a four-hour bug? That's a separate category. We can't do that. I think of it as a day situation, right? I hope it's only a day. I think some of the folks who've had this, it was longer. So, yeah, you can wish upon, you guarantee that said person. Ends up with explosive diarrhea. Who is it? 42% of Americans over 60 believe they will literally work until they die. You already have 11.6 million Americans age 65 and older, still, as the phrase goes, punching the clock. I would have guessed higher. Would you have guessed? If a third of individuals at least 60 are saying, I don't have it within my financial circumstance where I've saved. I'm going to get to savings numbers too in a little bit. And also what I'm making and what I'm facing ahead, then I'm going to have to work for the rest of my life until I pass away. I would have guessed that it's more than 11.6 million, 65 and older who are working. The number maybe seems a little light to me, but I don't think. I think most people still would have that feeling that, you know, eventually I'm going to break through. And it might only be a couple years where I won't have to work. You know, they probably might see that their health would be an issue that they just can't work. Right. But it's sad. Yeah, whether it's 42% or even if it was 22%. That's just. That's really sad. Not that you want to work. This isn't, I want to work until I die. That's different. This is, I have to. Well, and then along the same lines, this data came out a little bit ago, but it's still worth adding to this. Right on a third of Americans don't have a single money in savings right now. So an emergency happens of some sort. Yeah, pull out the credit card. That's what they have. Yeah. A third of Americans in the workforce have nothing safe. I say this all the time. I'll say it again. I'm a capitalist. And we have watched this is what, K-shaped economy, which was out there a lot already. But since COVID, it's K-even more. Because if you've had the ability to maintain a job, become more valuable at work when other people are not coming in, have money in the market, you're prospering. You are to some level. Because if you're upper middle class and above and you stayed that way through COVID. The overwhelming majority of those people have money in the market. They just do. And the market, I mean, we have these little mini corrections, and then we set another record. And unfortunately, that's just how the president views the economy. He really does. Market, market, market. And the market obviously has a trickle-down effect on a lot of people, but then we just can give you the numbers of people who don't have any money in the market. But...

There is something wrong with our system. When we have 42% saying, I'm going to have to work until my dying breath and a third of Americans don't have a penny. Save. And I'm not a, what we need to do is just. overwhelmingly taxed the wealthy. We can absolutely look at our taxing system and maybe take a better approach than Trump did. Because what Trump did in 17 and then they redid with the big beautiful bill, it just benefited those at the upper end. That's his prism, himself and his peers. Plenty of this is part of a conversation about our system. Plenty is on those folks, Dave. We can't take everybody off the hook and say, if it's a third, that's a big number. It's a big number. That number shouldn't be close to that. Some of that is efficiency, early, and throughout their life of... I got to put 200 bucks in the bank each week, whatever it might be, just to build up. I also realize I don't want to come off catalyst in any way. Some are just getting by every single day of their damn life. And that's not possible. And that's sad for those folks. And I wish that number would change. But if you're sitting there and you're in both categories right now, you're thinking, I'm going to have to work. until I die and I have no savings. Every day is just pressure packed. Every day there's a party thinking, I hope my husband doesn't find out he has prostate cancer or my wife doesn't get an accident or one of my kids has some housing situation. Because I got to keep working and we don't have any money. Exactly. You have something happened to the car. You know, something to the house. Water heater goes out. What do you do then? Right. The everyday stuff that happens and isn't free. There's not somebody just magically showing up and saying, here's your brand new air conditioner. It doesn't cost you anything. And again, I am not blaming. Everything on, oh, well, other people are doing well, they're doing too well. There should be a way in our system to have more people who are aspiring to be in the middle class to have that opportunity available to them because that's the bigger part of this. And also to remind folks, if you're not in a position where. Your occupation is going to allow you to dramatically prosper. You still have to find a way to save and save if it's possible. Because we can get tech saying, okay, here's my scenario. I've got three kids. I'm doing this. Here's what I'm making. You tell me how I save. And you wonder how they can. Yeah. And for many people that are facing this dilemma.

It might not be possible to save or at least to save much. I also feel, and I've felt this for a long time, Americans or maybe more than just Americans, but Americans, because that's what we're talking about here, we have far too many that are terrible with money. that spend too much, live beyond their means. Don't think about 10, 20, 30 years. Yes, that are trying to, you know, at this point, keep up with social media and everything they see and everything they see their friends doing. Well, if they're going to Aruba, then I've got to go to Hawaii. If they're going to Hawaii, then I've got to take a trip to Bangkok. You know, it's between that, living beyond means and just the lack of financial education, I think too many young people still have. of just what personal finance means, what savings can mean beyond just a basic savings account, but actually getting your money into a 401k, into IRAs, stuff like this at an early age, just little bits, little bits, and how after so much, you know, if someone would just do the math. for them with you know a high school class or college or whatever it is sit down with the financial advice if you just if that's your nest egg and you keep putting and you just leave it alone and maybe sometimes it's 200 bucks maybe sometimes it's 2,000 bucks yeah and just let it play out over your 401k little bit in the market like safe in the market How that can build up over the years. Yes. And it would, far too many people, I think, would be astonished when they see what, as you said, 100 bucks a month, 200 bucks, whatever you can put in there, what that can turn into in 10, 20, 30, 40 years if you have that time. All right, let's pause. When you hear these numbers, 42% of all Americans in the workforce saying, I'm going to have to work until it die. And one third of Americans are getting adults now. I don't have any savings. When you hear that, what do you think? Are you in that group? Does it infuriate you? What is your change? How can we find a way in our economic system when there is an extraordinary amount of wealth out there? where we are seeing more of a 100% economy and not just those in the upper, I don't know what would be 60 to 70% who continue to do better and better and better. And a lot of them are working their tails off to do that, but where we're allowing people to be in that competitive race to join them. 6-5-1. 461.9226. Let me just tell you about Pella's deal right now. PellaNorthland.com. 20% off your Pella project or 0% APR for 72 months. This is a great company. This is a company that I had heard of for decades and decades of living here. But when I moved into another house about 20 years ago, and I liked the house, and there's some crazy circumstances in my life, to be honest.

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With all the depreciation, all the other losses and everything they can do. Yeah. Where they're borderline paying nothing. And they're bringing in extraordinary money. We've said before. It's what won Donald Trump, the election over Hillary in that debate. She going after him for not paying taxes, him saying, well, it's you and the people that make the laws. You're the reason I can not pay much on taxes. By the way. If that is the law of the land, I don't fault them for doing that. Do you? No. If you're able to do everything, do everything you can legally to keep your money. This is a capitalistic society. Change the system. No, I want to pay the government more than I need to. Right. Nobody in their right mind is ever saying that. I get why people are infuriated if they're just working and working and working and feel like that it's just... You're just pushing the rock up the hill. You're Sisyphus. I mean, you're just over and over and over again. And others just, they're pushing the four iron back and forth. And they keep making more money. You can talk Sisyphus. I'll use the parlance of our times. Don't hate the play or hate the game, right? Yeah. Well, that was one important on the Dodgers yesterday, too. Don't have the Dodgers. Change the damn system. Most of my more techs, Canadian friends retired 55, opening up jobs for younger generation because they don't have to work for health care. Black universal health care is the problem. Only industrial country in the world without it. We're not that, but it's not a huge list. And health care and insurance is absolutely crushing.

Listeners who fall into the categories you're talking about need to talk to a financial advisor. It costs zero money to talk to an advisor at Northwestern Mutual here in the city. Is that true? Northwestern Mutual meets with folks for free. I don't know about that, but I mean, a lot of advisors you can meet with for free. Now, if you want to continue to meet with them and have them manage your money, then you actually have to pay, but they'll give you a free meeting with some advice in hopes that you'll say, you know what? I like this guy or gal. I'm going to pay you a little whatever it is to manage it for me. Not surprising, Texer says, about these numbers too bad. The candidates of our office and ask questions about this. Instead, we debate and debate passed. election results. Part of the problem is people don't anticipate issues like a medical emergency for them or even a pet until comes up. All sorts of text here. Democrats want to close the gap into the halves and the half knots, but every time they legislate to do it, Republicans block it. Taxary work in the grooming industry for decades. Not one other than myself was prepared for retirement. We had an owner offered a 401 match. I'd educate them on the value of this. It is maddening. More tax, good ones. I was so fortunate my parent installed savings being frugal when I was young. I hope I can continue to do this in the economic environment. More tax. For months I've wondered about the credit card debt in the nation. Would like to have more report on each month. Might show another ignored issue. We've talked about that. I'm sure other shows have talked about even more than us. But the amount of credit card debt, Dave, and what people are paying? It's obscene. It's total U.S. credit card debt right now. One and a quarter trillion dollars.

Say it again. One and a quarter trillion dollars. Individual Americans carrying average of roughly, let's call it, $66 to $6,700 in credit card debt. Wow. And that's, of course, at what, 15, 20, 22 percent. Percents are very, very fair and friendly. All right, a different financial topic. Concerts. Noa Khan, Target Field tomorrow. Ticket prices, extraordinarily high. We can go through this again, but let's discuss it and also ask this. If you have overpaid for someone, who did you overpay for, or who would you overpay for? Because a lot of people are looking at numbers on the second day of market, as the trip story points out, our guy Remins Schneider, Stubhub. Tick Pick Pick and Seekek have been starting at 500 for months. And by the way, on the field, $750.50. The concert ticket price boondoggle. That continues and continues. Dave, I've got a guy who probably can get you. On the grass, in theory on the grass, it's covered. 750 bucks to see Noah Khan tomorrow. You in? No. What is the most amount you've paid? Frugal, Dave Errigan. Well, you've got to remember, I'm not a huge live music guy. Yeah, what's wrong with you? The last big show I saw was, is it two summers ago now when Green Day came? And I paid maybe 30 bucks. To get in the door. I bought the tickets like five hours before the show, and they were in seats that were basically behind the stage, and I just stood out kind of the first baseline and watched it in standing room. It was great. Man, I don't... Who would you pay for right now? For me? Or for my girls? Because I fear the next time Taylor starts a new tour. Buckle up. My budding Taylor Swift fan girls are going to say, Daddy, please, father, can we go see the new errors tour? By the way, those won't be 30 bucks. No, they will not be. Not 30. The most I paid.

For shows, we're both Lottied down New York. So it was when I saw Bruce. I mean, ticket price is notoriously cheap in New York City. So the Bruce on Broadway thing and then the Hamilton. I don't. We paid a little bit for Stapleton last week. I wouldn't overpay for Stapleton. Yeah. The gal's favorite. He's one I haven't seen that I would. Probably put a little bit towards. When it's your significant others' favorite and somebody I like also. The Carter's brought the wine from their guy John. Really? Yeah. You bring your own wine in? Well, no. I said bring because we had John the bartender. So $750. 500 bucks. Just crazy money. Right? That's nuts. For Noah Kahn, clearly he's bigger than I feel he should be. Yeah. If he's filling up a ballpark. But, man. And apparently he filled up that ballpark right away. So do you see any signs of this slowing down? No. I don't either. No. We're in a new era of music, and I think music fans are still getting used to it. We don't go out and buy albums anymore. That's not where the money is made by these artists. The money's made on tours. There was also a story in Wall Street Journal today how Coldplay and Olivia Rodriguez, they make sure at their shows there's at least some $20 tickets that are available. It's kind of vague on how many. But that's nice. Make an effort. Okay. So should we blame the artists for this? If they go, if the live nation, whoever you have, says, Noah, you're on fire right now. You never know if this is going to continue. You might be Noah bleeping con for the next 40 years. We have no idea. Or this might be as good as you ever get. And we can get these ticket prices. And then residually, other people on the secondary market can get it. How much effort should the artists make to say, no, I'm going to turn down money? What percentage of people are going to say? I've emerged from TikTok the last few years. I'm on S&L. I'm playing a brilliant golf course day. I'm going to perform in front of, what, 35,000 people? And so I'm going to really lower the ticket prices. $20 for everyone. Sounds sweet. Yeah. Doesn't sound realistic, does it? No, it doesn't. We are a capitalistic society. We've discussed that. If you want to blame price gouging, I think people first would go after the live nations and ticket masters, right? And Amy Klobuchar has been a part of that. Various groups have been a part of it. We seemingly hear there's going to be progress. I don't see it. Do you? I don't. And if, like you said, if you're NOAACOM, and this is your first massive tour of what might be several,

It also might be your only tour that's this big. Yeah, you're going to go for as much as you possibly can. Of course you are. I would pay the most right now, and I've said this a couple of times before, the various versions of this question. Eddie Vedder, but I want him acoustic. I want Eddie Vedder. And I know Pearl Jam is great. Okay, I know you're wrong. But that's who I pay for right now. A decent chunk. Okay. I'd pay for Stapleton. I'd pay for the Rolling Stones. If I got reviews that said, you know what? They're older, but they still got it. That's the show where Adam and I went to. At then TCF Bank. And I mean, Mick was phenomenal that night. I mean, what was he, 170 that night? He's prancing. He's preening. The sound was good. But, okay, they're in the open end zone, and we're maybe opposite 30-yard line. Not high up. So they were fine. They were good. And the guy across, like, closer to the 35-yard line. Okay, so getting closer to Mick and the boys. He is, I don't know, was he FaceTiming it then? Do we have a different technology then? For his buddy at home who's watching the whole show. No. Drove me nuts. You didn't say anything, did you? I did not. I did add him repeatedly. Wow, coward. It bugged Adam also, but then it bugged him by how much it bugged me. Shut up about it, John. And some... When I talked to this, maybe there's a health issue. Maybe there is a health. Could be. Right? Would most people say something if they were just FaceTiming it the entire time for a buddy? If I was sitting right behind the person and in my view every single moment of the show was your camera's view of the show? I wouldn't say anything to your face, but I'd, you know, speak loudly to the people next me. Can you believe this guy, huh? And then he'd look back like, I didn't say this chowderhead over here did. Have a golf trip going to Ireland, April, golf and a whiskey tour. Call me if you are. Jim, and then he gives him the number. Is he trying to point out how much money he's paying for the golf and whiskey tour, or does he just completely have the wrong number, and it's not germane of this topic in any way? I think it was directed towards me, and he's offering me a free seat down the plane and spot in the foursome. Thank you. I'll give you a ring. I did that trip a few years ago to Ireland, and it's amazing. Right now I just would like to go for the whiskey. You've given up the golf? No, I've not taken a sabbatical right now, and I'm hoping the game is terminated. so that I'm not brought back into it. Maybe you'd play differently across the pond. Chair, the press of business is Zach Brown and Fenway would have been worth it. Did you see that? Yep. We brought it up. Everyone at Fenway that night a pair of tickets for a cruise. Every single person, 35,000. I like Zach Brown also.

Multiple Zach Brown appearances. Would you have gone on the cruise, though, considering it was the Margaritaville at sea cruise line? No, because he's a loathsome person, so I will not go on the Jimmy Buffett. The Under Stub Hub paid $39 million for the cross across the street from Lucille Balls and Beverly Hills. He tore it down. Hasn't built on yet. It was a gorgeous house. Yeah, I'm assuming he's doing well. Mr. Stubhub. What a break that his name was, first name Stub. Tom Stubhub, right? Yeah, you know, last name Hub. Just going to the local shows. So I was okay with it once. This person paid 400 bucks for Bruce. Yeah, that's the thing, right? If you balance it out, that's one thing. And I mean, how many shows does Target Field have? They have three or four after games, right? Yeah. But the standalones, they probably have, what, two, three a summer? I was going to say maybe two. They've got this one and what My Chemical Romance this summer. I think those are the only big two. Is that it? Yeah. I think so. It's a pretty good place to see music. Great. Pretty great. On a beautiful summer night. Yeah. Exactly. And it's supposed to be nice tomorrow. Our guy Mattel's already in the house. He's going to join us early in the 2 o'clock hour on CCO. Luke Murray is the new men's basketball coach at Boston College. Danny Hurley's right-hand man, and yes, he's Bill's son. Had thought about him much until I saw a tweet from awful announcing at some point last night. where the broadcasters involved who broadcast Boston College basketball, men's basketball and have for a long time. One of the broadcasters also is with the Milwaukee Brewers. They were dumped. And the explanation, and there's some backpedaling now, and the explanation was Luke Murray, the new coach wanted nobody involved from the previous regime. I don't think the broadcasters played. I don't think they designed the game plan. I mean, talk about paranoia and ego. Just insulting. Now Boston College say, oh, no, no, that wasn't it. Funny. There's no reason why these broadcasters would make it up. None. Zero. Trust me, as an individual who spent a lot of his life. around coaches, some wonderful human beings, some loathsome bleeps, to think I've got a clean. I get the assistants and other people bringing the broadcasters? You're that paranoid about the broadcasters? Give me a break. Did I agree with Kevin McKell when he fired Flip Saunders? Nope. And I said that on the radio. But did I continue to do my job? When Duane Casey replaced Flip, I just got along. You do your job. Hey, Luke, calm down. You've accomplished zero so far. All right, it was last week when the story broke that Axel Henry.

What Chief Henry told the investigators, and he has been as sincere since day one, is that he could not have this behavior be modeled for his department, and he was not going to expect somebody to have to come forward if he wasn't going to come forward himself. And that's the, that's it. There was no other ulterior motive behind any of this, zero. And I get that, like now it just seems like it's kind of the Democratic hit parade that's coming out and saying, oh, no, there's a whole other story here. And now they've got the KSTP acting as the mayor's shill with respect to this and not getting the other side of the story. Now, I'll say this. I don't personally know Jay, but Jay's reported on a lot of things. I've never felt like Jay. It's just a DFL shill. Okay. I have no idea if this is accurate. He didn't do his job. Right. He didn't do his job because it's not a secret that I'm representing Chief Henry. Yeah. I presumably he has a phone. He could have picked that up and or emailed me and said, hey, listen, you have a comment on this. He chose not to. That's shoddy journalism 101. And when we're looking at some of the things here that is happening with respect to what's happening, are we really trying to draw a distinction between a mayor going into a gym and complimenting on the breasts of a deputy chief of the St. Paul Police Department who openly has said that one of the reasons for her retirement was because she didn't want to be around this mayor anymore. Are we really trying to say that going into the gym while we're stretching making orgasm sounds? And are we really saying that sending out these sorts of memes saying that this is what somebody looks like after photoshopping a picture of a St. Paul police officer's face onto it and saying this is what they look like after a good wiener. And I'm here to tell you, too, Chad, this ain't it. There's a lot more that is going to be coming out with respect to this story. When will it come out? We're waiting. One of the things that Chief Henry wanted to do, if you notice, he has not talked about any of this stuff. The mayor's office is the one that's letting all this stuff out. I got a call from a New York Times reporter on a Saturday after biking. I thought I was biking a very long... time and then I found out from several people that I practically biked nowhere. Apparently, I'm not that great of a cyclist. But in any event, I got a call from then and saying, what's happening with respect, we took nobody with respect to the story. I think that they're just trying to get up. When did that call? Is I think the Saturday before last Saturday. So we could go this last Saturday, whatever that date was. So until then. Nobody in the media knew at all. Zero. Zero. And I've obviously... Were you planning on going public in any way? We were going to let the report speak for itself. That's exactly what Chief Henry wanted, and that's exactly what Chief Henry's. He's still not speaking on any of this stuff because he was told we're not talking about the investigation. Now I'm getting internal documents. Did you tell him not to talk? I have not. No, this is Chief Henry totally on his own. This is a guy, I mean, honestly,

It is difficult to describe the amount of integrity and honesty coming from a person than I have seen in Axel Henry. He is the idea that he has some sort of angle on this thing is just literally absurd to me. Because you know the angle. Even Jay Coles, I'll just read again from his report. Sources tell I went in his news. These questions came in February and March, right, as the mayor also considered trimming the police budget. I cannot tell you how many people. connected in town, who I want to identify, but their names you know when this report came out said, don't underestimate that this is a battle over the police budget. No. I mean, you know, in a word, the people that you're talking to do not know Axel Henry, either one or number two, they're morons. They don't understand what is happening here. And one of the things I just want to keep backing up from this. If Chad Hartman had done one-tenth of what has come out right now, I would be talking to Chad Hartman in his car on his way home after he got fired. I would be dismissed. Yes. It's not even close. But now what we do is we've got, you know, people I'm one of the people I just heard from the Star Tribune that's given a quote is Ryan Winkler, who, you know, gave a quote to the Star Tribune that I think was about as effective as his run for Hennepin County attorney. And it's just- What did Winkler say? I'm trying to say it. He's trying to stand up on her behalf. And I think when these people hear what is going to come out, and there's witnesses for the stuff that is going to come out, by the way. And there are documents of the stuff that is going to come out. Okay. So if people say, okay, if people say, and I know you well, and if I don't believe this, okay, people say it's the DFL supporting her, and there's a former Republican... gubernatorial candidate. So this is a Republican against Democrat issue and the politics is all over it, including yourself. You say what? I have matters right now against very significant Republicans. And I also was one of the people, as you well know, involved with respect to the complaint against Brian O'Hara. I'm not. the least bit shy about being opposite people that I might agree with with respect to political issues. I will also say that with respect to the mainstream Republican Party, as I know it right now, I'm not one of them. I am just not one of those people. Part of the reason why you jumped out of the race is the... what was happening with Operation Metro Surge. And now you said, I couldn't even look my family in the eye and say, that represents what I want to be apart. 100%. And that's where, again, if you're looking on a political spectrum, where do I align more on that? If we're getting groups together, I appear to be aligning more with Democrats with respect to that than I do with respect to others. I think that there is a very good reason. that we have immigration in this country, not the least of which, that there's not a lot of jobs that I don't believe that these people are taking jobs away from, you know, Americans that were born and raised here. I think that that's absurd. But the idea that I'm just doing this in order to be Axel Henry Schill to try to get at a Democratic mayor, it's just, honestly, it's just stupid. And it just underestimates who Axel Henry is. He wouldn't permit that.

Even if I, like, wanted this great motivation in order to try to go after mayor her, I haven't lived in St. Paul Chad since 1994. And I live downtown and I worked down there. I love downtown St. Paul. And it was great. Skyways were up until 11. I was a young lawyer. Yeah. I could make it anywhere. But with respect to that, I really don't have a dog in the St. Paul hunt other than my client and making sure that people understand. This is a man of integrity, this is a man of honesty, and he's doing the right thing. Did you know Axel Henry before? He reached out to or somebody reached out to you about this case. Only by reputation. I've known the St. Paul Union well, and I know Mark Ross, who's the head of the St. Paul Union well. And I just know that everybody in St. Paul, the morale, the St. Paul Police Department's amazing. I mean, it's weird that it's right next to Minneapolis because the difference between the two departments and the morale is incredible. And the... work that the St. Paul Police Department has done in cleaning up that city has been remarkable. I mean, if you just look at the numbers and Chief Henry be the first one to say, never do, you know, go into the end zone and do a dance on the numbers because we're talking about real people's lives here. He'll be the first one to say it, but their numbers are just amazingly good. Yeah, Ramsey County also with Bob Fletcher. Some of its numbers, don't you think? Some of it's a Minneapolis, woefully. How do you not? compare without numbers. You know what I mean? You can't really kind of do the, it's the easiest objective comparison. Chris Mattel is here because you can stay with us for a while. More on this issue. When we come back, I'll look at texts. If you want to raise some, you certainly can. 651-461-9-2-26. Right back with Chris Mattel. Let me ask you another part of the report from Jay Coles. This is about the mayor sent Axel Henry, a 2004 police internal affairs investigation that reported sergeant ended having sex with his girlfriend in the office while four officers were outside the door. The four officers said they were intimidated by the sergeant has tried to keep things quiet. Henry suspended the sergeant for 30 days without pay, but the mayor reported a question why the suspension wasn't longer. Did that lead to any tension between the police chief and the mayor? None. I mean, these sorts of conversations happen all the time between a mayor and a chief. But I mean, again, just to underline this, why would a police chief of St. Paul, who again... Axel Henry is not mugging for every camera wearing the tightest shirt possible and trying to get all the cameras to look at him. He's just, he is not that guy. A lot of us didn't even know his name until all this stuff came out because he is the embodiment of somebody that's falling under the radar and just trying to do his job. He is not interested in publicity. Why would he put himself on the line to make these allegations to protect others just to get back?

off of a disciplinary report over a cop that was having sex on city property off duty, you know, in order to do that. Yes, but I get that, Chad. But honestly, if sex in the office was some sort of a violation, I've been a lawyer for 34 years, there's about 30% of the partners in law firm, downtown Minneapolis law firms are going to have to be suspended from their job. Yeah, I will give them to you right as soon as we're done. Okay. The other accusation of people said, no, wait a sec. If this was already to be filed April 1st, why not? Why is it going public months later? Yeah. Did it just go public because the media was finding out about it? I got the tip from the New York Times reporter and Ernesto Lodondo, and you obviously would not tell me who his source was. I just know it wasn't us. We weren't tipping anybody on this, and it came from somebody within the city of St. Paul. That's all I was told about. If Mayor Hur would have come out last week and said, I was completely wrong. My actions are inexcusable. I made a mistake. I profusely apologize. This will never happen again. I want to repair my relationship with everybody involved. Would Axel Henry still want to work with the mayor? If there is one person that is a big believer in redemption, it's Axel Henry. He really does believe in second chances. It wouldn't surprise me at all. I can't really say that right now because there has been so much that has... transpired that has not come out yet that you will see, you know, when this report comes out. And honestly, if it's not in the report, we're going to make sure that it gets out. When will that report come up? I honestly don't know. Yeah. Month? Two months? I wish I knew. Okay. I wish I knew. So Alpha News this afternoon. Yeah. With this report. Alpha News, good reporting by them. They attained text messages revealing she believed men she encountered. You're talking about the mayor. Yeah, the mayor, collie her. Through a professional political life, ended up developing romantic feelings for her. This is, she wrote in a text message to Shirley Yang in the spring of 2025 while she's in the House of Representatives. Here is the quote. Here's the text she sent. The nature of my work requires a lot of love and passion, otherwise the work is too heavy to carry and the burden too great. I run across this with men more frequently, but men will sometimes mistake it for more. I think they end up falling in love with me, so I've set very clear boundaries. Considering everything has happened with your client, what do you say about that text? Nothing surprises me on this one more than anything else. I mean, the doctored memes, there's doctored photos that has been reported, the putting your face over things, the orgasming in the gym, the complimenting women's breasts, the other stuff that I'm aware of that hasn't come out yet.

Literally there is nothing that could come out of this mayor's office right now that I'm not going to be, like I'm going to be surprised about anymore. But I mean that the notion that, you know, apparently men just are attracted to her and immediately fall in love with her, the ego with respect to this is off the charts. You mentioned just in one of the previous answers that... If the report doesn't provide this information, you will. Yeah. Why not provide it now? Why not tell us right here on CCO? Because my client, Chief Henry, believes in the process and he doesn't want it coming out. But I can tell you that the more that I see these documents being leaked by the city of St. Paul, they want to continue to play that game. I will play that game too. And they want to do that. They want to try to get ahead of a news story. They can see how it feels to try to get ahead of the news story, knowing the pictures that I have that I can let out to show exactly what this mayor is all about. This mayor has done some very, to put it mildly. odd behavior, to put it mildly. I'm 59 years old. I have never heard of a person, male or female, going into the gym and stretching and trying to make sounds like an orgasm. That is odd. And the idea that she was somehow, feels betrayed by the St. Paul Police Department... to be invited to come in, I can guarantee you from everybody that I've talked to, and I've talked to a lot of cops about this, not one of them was saying, hey, listen, come on into our gym because we all make orgasm sounds together. She was doing that on her own. And the idea that now she's trying to say, well, the only reason you're bringing that up is because of budgets. No, the only reason that we're bringing that up right now, Axel Henry is bringing that up, is because he cannot have that behavior be... followed by people in this department and do nothing about it. This is exactly the sort of leader that we want in these positions of power. And when I talk a little about the power there again. This is the chief reports to the mayor. It's not the other way around. So quit acting like she's, oh, these poor cops are picking on me. You're in charge. It's your behavior that is supposed to be modeled not only within the city and also within the department. People are supposed to be looking up to you. They cannot look up to you when you're repeatedly coming up with different excuses. First, oh, I'm sorry. Second, I feel betrayed. And now, oh, Axel Henry's mad at me. I mean, you can't do that and try to run an effective city government. Grow up. Chris Maddo is here representing Axel Henry. We're talking about the allegations against Mayor Kali Hur. When you hear people say, this in theory is just boys being boys, that...

Things that you and your friends might say, me and my friends might say, that she was just trying to fit in female in a boys club and that it's a mistake. but that he is overreacted to it because I ended up getting a lot of those tax last week and I'm sure people have reached out to you along those lines to that line of thinking you say what? Wait till it all comes out because I can't wait, Chad. I can't wait to hear what those people are going to say. when they hear what is actually transpired here and which there was a witness with respect to what has transpired here. Because these people, again... Will Mayor Her view this witness as independent? I have no idea what she will be. I mean, I'm apparently, you know, I'm one of the men that might be falling in love with her, so I don't know. I mean, she, you know, Alpha News, you know, getting a hold of those tax. And thank God that they've reported those because otherwise, you know, others wouldn't. That, you know, with respect to what she thinks, I have no idea. I do know that with respect to Axel Henry in particular, the main thing that he told the investigator, because he got the same question from the investigator, what do you want out of this? Yeah. His main thing was, he said, you know, I wanted to stop. And I want to rewind my life to go back to that time and have none of this ever have happened. Is he worried though now? And he didn't create this situation. But now this is so associated with him. that it's just going to be a part of him when he's doing his normal police work for as long as he does. That it's going to be actually Henry Kama, who was a part of this investigation, the mayor, is now investigating this, that it's just he's going to be so associated with this, and it's unfair because we see it if he's telling the truth, and Mayor hears it differently, but that... If you're on the other end of harassment, one of the reason why people don't speak up is, do I really want that tied to me over and over and over again? And again, It's not just a matter of him telling the truth. This is deputy chiefs. This is other bunch of people coming forward. It's not just Axel Henry. So that's number one. He is not the only one that has experienced this. But you bring up a really good point. And this is the same thing that women have to go through with respect to these sorts of allegations. And you put yourself out there.

That's the one thing that I would just ask people kind of pause on. Why would somebody that is in their 50s that has reached the top of their career do something like this? Well regarded. Good reputation. Do this unless what I am saying is accurate that he actually wanted this behavior to be modeled properly within the department. Tell me what for a budget? I mean, honestly, that makes zero sense whatsoever. Outside of her tax to her friend. Do you believe there's a pattern this when she was in the House of Representatives or before in any other aspects of her life? I just heard, and I have no idea if this is true, but I heard that there is another complaint made in the legislature regarding her recently. I have no idea if that's true, but I heard that from a reporter. I don't know. But all I know is what I have seen, and what I have seen is odd, very odd behavior. particularly for an elected official. I mean, if this were like an employee of somebody, a lower level employee that's sitting there working for some major corporation, I would go, Sounds like kind of a screws loose. Maybe this might be a person that kind of let go at the next. But when you're the mayor of the city. Yeah, exactly. You're in the mayor of the city. You don't do this. And you certainly don't do this after becoming mayor. And, you know, I don't think that there needs to be a manual someplace that says, hey, by the way, if you're the mayor, don't compliment another woman's breasts, you know, while we'll be in the mayor. And because, again, we got to openly talk about this double standard. If there were you or me? We're done. We are absolutely done. But the very fact that this is a woman mayor right now. Which is also why some people are criticised as Naxel. Henry is saying, come on, you're a guy. Why are you being too sensitive to it? You know, the double standard still is out there and it's nausea. And when I hear a deputy chief, a woman who I know and who I know is one of the... greatest women badasses that we had in the state talk about how she had to retire early because she didn't want to have to deal with this sort of behavior from her mayor that breaks my heart that is not right none of us should have to go to the job and experience this sort of thing and feel that on a day-to-day basis of having to feel something like the only alternative is for me to quit That's wrong. Nobody has apologized to her yet. And, you know, the closest that it's come is the mayor said, well, I guess some of my behavior fell short. Now we're trying to push all this on to Chief Henry. It's just wrong. You know, but again, what we're seeing, again, hear from this reporting from Alpha News and the stuff that I've seen. We are just seeing somebody that, frankly, is at best, odd, and at worst unhinged. And I think it's just going to get worse. But I am. loving the fact that some of these Democrats like Ryan Winkler are coming out to her defense because I can't wait to this report comes out and I get to ask them. Because you just feel like they don't have any idea what else is out there. I can't wait to say, okay, defend that, defend that. I want to hear you on the record defend that behavior that has happened and there's a witness to it. Defend that.

because the minute that I want to see that, and I would love to come on your show and look him in the eye as he's doing that. I'll pay you for it because, you know, from my position... I can be bought. You and me both. But, I mean, you know, I just bought another powerful ticket. I'll do it for less. Yeah. Fair. All, let's pause here. Because I want to get to other issues, including, by the way... If you would have stayed in the race, we're one week away from the primary. You mentioned Todd Blanche, Janine Piro. There's a lot of national stuff, which I know you have opinions on. Chris Mattel in the House, 35 past two. We'll quickly move through some spots, traveling weather, and come back with Chris in moments. All right, there's your guy, Donald Trump. Where do I start? Let's go to Todd Blanche. He passed through a committee today on a party vote. You ran to be the Republican governor of this day. Todd Blanche, their attorneys I know, who said until he was a line with Donald Trump, that he was a very well-regarded attorney. But now he just flops over and asks Donald to rub him on the belly. And whatever you want, should Todd Blanche be the attorney general? No, absolutely not. I mean, you... Todd Blanche entered into an agreement with the President of the United States to provide the President as well as his family with permanent immunity from an IRS audit. I mean, I think we can just stop right there. I mean, the notion that we would do that for, I mean, this. Any citizen. Exactly. But this is one of the things that we always were taught in school is that no person in the United States is above the law. And now that has been broken. And the fact that there was two senators, Thom Tillis and John Cornyn, had to push him after they, by the way, both. You know, Thom Tillis isn't running. John Cornyn just got, you know, she's amazing how they got a backbone if they retire or lose. He got trumped. And so then he's starting to show that. And then everybody just votes in favor of this. I mean, to me, that is just, it's just wrong. The Justice Department is not an arm of the executive branch. And, and Nixon tried this. Nixon tried it during Watergate and a bunch of people resigned. Give me Richard Nixon. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I mean, seriously. I mean, seriously, the fact I say that, it's true. Yep. Okay. When he came out yesterday and writes these memos, I probably saw on multiple networks. Five different credible attorneys say, this isn't binding. This doesn't mean that Trump couldn't bring the slush fund back. Yes. This really didn't totally end it. Well, this is really just one party to a contract saying that the contract's not binding, and it happens to be the party that it would be enforced against. Yes. So really, I mean, if I'm Trump, I mean, what they needed to get if they wanted this to be dead is for Trump.

to say in writing that it's dead. Then that could be it. It keeps saying it's a great idea. Yeah, exactly. And you can rest assured that if he's out of office, the IRS starts to audit something. They are going to use this as an argument and try to get the IRS to stop auditing them on the basis of this agreement. And frankly, were he my client? You would have to advance that argument because it's a legitimate argument and it's a legitimate claim. Janine Piro before she went to Fox and before she was on the five. You know, she was involved in some legitimate legal matters, right? And so then, like, what is it, like 25 other Fox commentators, she gets hired. She becomes the attorney in D.C. and the president becomes obsessed with these weird things. Now, the helipad has been delayed. We obviously have the ballroom that never ends. The UFC fight, by the way, did you see that today? Yep. UFC lost 30 million on that fight. 30 million. But then he brings in his flunky from Bedminster. It isn't repaired. He, by the way, drove the beast and other vehicles down the reflecting pool. They charge someone. Then, as you know, they have to present evidence. It's shocking. You have to go to court and present evidence. And Piero has to admit, I don't have anything. Well, I have nothing. And now... Trump calls her out. She goes to the White House yesterday. She's leaving with boxes in her hand. I mean, did Janine Piro act ethically in this case? That's a tough question because, I mean, the thing that I read is that they had Interior Department documents that said that this was rushed, right? The Olympian did not cause this problem. So the Department of the Interior documents actually said that. Did she act ethically inappropriately? Yes, she acted ethically and appropriately. Eventually. But I think it's really incumbent. This is one of the things I've really gotten on my soapbox. And pardon me for this. prosecutors really need to do their job ahead of charging somebody with a crime. And I've said this a number of times about Moriarty with Ryan Laundrigan. They did not do their job with respect to Ryan Laundrigan. This is a momentous occasion for the criminal defendant as well as their family. And just getting charged can end a life with respect to these things. And Democrat or Republican, we should really be. You need to be in front of these things. And the prosecutorial discretion, especially on behalf of the United States, is immense. Oh, yeah. When you're going up against the Justice Department? It is, I can tell you. That weight. And a president who's involved, who is basically running the Justice Department right now? One of the last dozen or so cases that Joe Freeberg tried, I had that pleasure of being representing a co-defendant in.

And there is something when you're on that side of the room and it says United States versus your client. Yeah. And they're standing up and saying, you know, Chad Hartman on behalf of the United States. And I'm like, you know, well, Chris Madel on behalf of Joe Snowbody. You know, it is intimidating. It is. And that is. So I wish that they would have looked into that more. But it's just so clear now that so many of these decisions, they're so afraid of the White House that they're doing whatever the White House needs to be. say, charge somebody. Including here in this state with Dan Rosen, right? Yes. And I will go so far, though. I will also say, too, that with respect to that prosecution of Trump and New York, I understand it. I understand why Trump, you know, is mad about that. That prosecution, that state court prosecution to him was BS. And it was a Democratic deal that was done against the president. Well, too, I mean, she. ran saying she was going to go get him. You can't be that. Imagine. Now, you can't be that naked, but then there's a little bit of the text saying, what's the difference? That's what Trump does all the time. And he does. And that, but again. All of our moms and dad said, two wrongs don't make a right. Yeah, no, fair. And this is where we're supposed to be. You shouldn't be running for office saying that I'm going to prosecute Dave Harrigan, although, you know, both, you and you and I would both love that. God, that would both love. And frankly, this is where Dave belongs. I mean, he does belong someplace in a prison, but I'd represent myself and walk circles around both of you. Fair enough. Okay. I need to see that. Speaking of paying for things, I need to see you and Mattel going head to head in court. Let me try it. Objection! Perfect. Okay. In theory, if you stay in the race, you're not here today. You're somewhere campaigning. Is there any part of you that thinks, God, I wish I was still in this race? Because Mike bleeping Lindell. He's leading the polls. He is the favor. There's Exhibit A as to why my answer is just a very definite no. Yeah. Our politics right now, our state right now, with respect to just about everything, it's just broken. It is just, and frankly, I wonder if that sort of candidacy could be enough for a reset button for people to go, hey, listen, this is wrong. We need to actually put forward. two people that are actually going to be discussing policy and about different ideas in order to move the state forward rather than kind of getting into the clown car and driving around. So, no, right now, and especially like running as a Republican right now with gas prices, what thing going on with Iran, with the endorsement of Lendell. I mean, there is not. a scintilla of my body that wishes that I was still in the race, let alone the very fact that I just, you know, on metro surge and what was happening there, I just, I couldn't, I couldn't be associated. Okay, so you're 59. Why not? Continue to work for two years and then be apart in four years when Amy Klobuchar, who knows if she's going to, I wouldn't be shocked if she's a one-term governor. Yeah, I don't know. You know, you know, and then run as an independent. Yeah.

If there was a path to run as an independent, that would be the most interesting thing to me, honestly, because then you can actually say, you know, you don't have to count out anybody. You don't have to run to one edge. I don't have to go around and discuss my feity towards Donald Trump. You know, you don't have to do any of that. That would be interesting to me. But, again, a lot of politics is money. Yeah, well, that's what it's good. And you're not going to get a lot of money as an independent. Right. Unless I get it from Chad Hartman. Got that my headphones broke up just for a second there. I couldn't hear what you had to say. Yeah, I would just, I would love it if we had other options. I do. I would too. And I think, frankly, it'd be best for the country if we started getting more. And I won't even say just a third party. I would say just more parties. Yes. Exactly. Coming in. Put together coalitions. Is it messy? Yes, it is. But we also get. far better people with far different views, and the idea of a multiplicity of ideas is only a good thing. I would go so far, you know, the same thing is true with the world. The more that we have more powers around the world, frankly, in a lot of ways, the safer we are. Because if you have one or two, look at how close we were to nuclear war going back, you know, in the 60s. And the more that we've gotten away from that. The less, we're not talking about nuclear freezes anymore. We're not talking about putting nukes on. We're talking about terrorism, which in its own right is horrible. But in terms of like ending the planet sort of war, we're kind of gotten away from that, which is a great thing. You're going to join us at the fair, right? If we've come over the day, you'll come out, right? I will come to the fair if you ask me, but I have got to, I am an introvert and being around that many people at the fair. What did you just say? I, I, I, I love talking. I love talking in situations like this. I do not like being invited to parties that much. I don't like going to dinner parties much. I don't like small talk. And when I go to the fair, it freaks me out with that many people walking around. Well, that'll be better, Dave. No one's paying attention to this show anyway. Fair enough. Awesome. Awesome. Thank you, I would do it for you. I would do it for you. I appreciate. Thanks, Chris. You bet. Chris Maddle, that was an excellent hour. You can always podcast our show. Well, chat with Jason, before he takes over in moments. Well, we'll talk about little Amber Shoal. I don't know what sort of insurance Mattel has. He could, like everybody else, go to team shoal.com. S-C-H-O-L-L.com. That's for your car. That's for your home. I mean, Mattel has like seven homes. So he needs to have that. He's got seven cars. He's got the limousine. The limousine driver drove him down here. That's not easy to have. Now, it's not just Amber and their team because it's Scholl and Associates the team. It's American family. They bring, what is K-O-C or no, it's Finji? Gravity. Ant brings gravity to the floor. American family brings gravity, the power, the leverage, so it's not just, you know, some flunky and a strip mall. It's American family, but if you get an accident, somebody runs into you, hail situation, you have the local office and the power of American family. She's also a great person. Teamshould.com.