All Talk with Kevin Dietz ~ August 4, 2026 ~ Full Show

Good morning. Welcome into the 9 o'clock hour of all talk. I'm Kevin D. It's bringing you the latest headlines and the stories that everyone is talking about. Well, it's here. It's Election Day in Michigan. And before we spend hours talking about who's up, who's down, who wins, who loses, I want to spend a few minutes talking about something much bigger than politics. I want to talk about voting. Not voting Republican, not voting Democrat, not voting conservative, not voting liberal, just voting. Because somewhere along the way, too many Americans have decided their vote doesn't matter. They say it's only one vote. They say they're all the same. They say nothing never changes. They say, I'll just stay home. I couldn't disagree more. This country wasn't built by people who just stayed home. It was built by people who showed up. Think about what it took to create this republic. The founding fathers risked everything to establish a government where ordinary citizens... Not kings, not dictators, not military rulers, would ultimately decide who leads them. Over the next 250 years, Americans fought to expand that right. Women marched for it. Civil rights leaders bled for it. Soldiers have defended it around the world. Some never came home. Whether they served at Normandy in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, or elsewhere, they wore the uniform believing they were protecting something larger than themselves. Part of what they're protecting is your right to walk into a polling place and cast a ballot. That is an extraordinary privilege. Millions of people around the world would love to have what we often take for granted. There are countries where elections are really fake. Countries where opposition candidates disappear. Countries where criticizing the government can land you in prison. There's countries where people never truly get to choose. But here in America, we do. And that makes voting more than just a right. It makes it a responsibility. Now, maybe you love the candidates. Maybe you don't. Maybe you're excited about your choices. Maybe you're frustrated by all of them. That's okay. The beauty of America is that you get to decide. You don't have to agree with your neighbor. You don't have to agree with me. You don't have to agree with anyone. But don't surrender your voice by staying home. If you don't vote, you voluntarily removed yourself from one of the most important conversations in a democracy. You can still have opinions, of course you can. But voting is how opinions become action. Today, Michigan voters will help shape races for governor, the U.S. Senate, Congress, the legislature, and local offices. Some of those races could help determine who controls Congress. Others will affect decisions made right here at home, roads, schools, public safety, taxes, and countless issues that touch your everyday life. So these elections do matter, not because one party says they do, because they determine who makes decisions on our behalf. And here's something else. Don't let anybody intimidate you. Don't let anybody tell you your vote doesn't count. Don't let anybody convince you the system isn't worth participating in. If you believe something needs to change, vote. If you think things are headed in the right direction, vote. If you're angry, vote. If you're hopeful, vote. If you're undecided, do your homework and then vote. Because democracy isn't something we just watch from the sidelines. It's something we participate in.

Though fatalities remain rare, health officials continue urging consumers to follow food safety recommendations as the investigation continues. Federal officials say cyber attacks targeting municipal water systems are spreading across multiple states with incidents confirmed in at least seven states, including Michigan and Minnesota. Minnesota has reported attacks on about 30 water systems, while Michigan has confirmed nine incidents. Though officials say drinking water remains safe and systems continue operating. The FBI is investigating the attacks and federal cybersecurity agencies have warned that Iranian-affiliated hackers are increasingly targeting industrial control systems used by water and wastewater utilities. The cybersecurity and infrastructure security agencies say the attacks have already forced some utilities into manual operation and prompted boil water advisories elsewhere. Federal officials are urging water systems to disconnect vulnerable equipment from the Internet. change default passwords, and strengthen cyber security protections. Michigan has joined a coalition of 24 other states in a federal lawsuit challenging President Trump's latest round of global tariffs, arguing the administration exceeded its legal authority. The lawsuit contends the White House's improperly using Section 301 of the Trade Act of 1974 to reimpose tariffs after earlier versions were struck down or expired following court challenges. State Attorney General's argued the new duties. amount to an illegal tax increase on consumers and businesses, while the Trump administration maintains the tariffs are necessary to combat unfair trade practices and protect American workers. The case comes as U.S. Customs continues processing billions of dollars in refund requests tied to previous invalidated tariffs. The legal battles could have significant implications for Michigan's manufacturing automotive industries, which will rely healthy. on international trade and cross-border supply chains. All right, we're going to take a break. When we come back, we're going to talk with Andrea Bightley about today's Michigan primary. Have you already voted? Did you vote early? Did you mail in your vote? Are you going to vote today? What will the turnout look like? Quick break. We'll be right back. It's all talk. I'm Kevin Deetz. It's All Talk on a Tuesday morning. I'm Kevin D. It's coming to you from the Golden Tower of the Fisher Building. The number is 1-800-859-0-957. 1-800-8-5-0. WGR. Give us a call. Give us a text. We're going to take your calls and read your text coming up at 935. So pick up the phone. Be a part of the show. Michigan voters, they're heading to the polls. And what may be the most closely watched primary election in America this year, beyond choosing nominees for governor and the U.S. Senate political strategists for both parties will be studying turnout, voting patterns, and regional shifts for clues about the 2026 midterm elections. And even the 2028 presidential race, Michigan remains one of the nation's premier battleground states. And with control of Congress hanging in the balance, both Democrats and Republicans see the Great Lakes state as a political bellwether.

So what will happen today? How will it all go down? Let's bring in Andrea Bightley, founder and principal of Bightly Communications. Good morning. How are you? Good morning. Thanks for having me. Yeah, I appreciate you being here. It's going to be a long day for you, right? You're going to be back for our coverage at 8 to 11 tonight. It's going to be a very long day for everybody in the state of Michigan. But those of us that are chatting about it are going to have a very long, maybe two days. Yes, for sure. We'll see. We'll see when we know. Right, exactly. Yeah, what do you think? You think results will come in slowly or do you think we'll know fairly quickly? I think it's going to be a long night, is what I'm going to say. We have some counties that are really, really great about getting results in quickly. And we have some counties that are not super great about getting results in quickly. And we also have to remember that some of these elections could come down to hundreds, if not fewer, votes. We will likely know the Senate race in the wee early hours of tomorrow and the governor's race on the Republican side, I think we'll know late, late tonight. But there are going to be some races throughout the state of Michigan that we won't have real numbers for until Wednesday, midday. Yeah, it's always kind of that way. We have to wait on some of them. Everyone's looking at the big ones. So we'll see. We'll probably have those by the time we go on. I'll talk tomorrow morning, probably. What do you think about turnout? What do you think about the early voting numbers? And what do you think about day off? The early voting numbers are incredible. I mean, we're talking a million plus votes across the state before today, which is incredible and shows the real power of having early voting and absentee voting, allowing people to have their voice heard when they may be otherwise occupied on election day. So I think it's been a fantastic way for people to make their voice heard. I think we're going to see long lines today, encouraging folks to get to the polls early and take the chance that they have to really have their voices heard. Those of us that are going to be chatting about it throughout the day and watching the numbers, I know I'm expecting a record turnout for a primary election. And from what I've heard from other folks, they are as well, which is great for Michigan, but also sets us up for... a really dynamic general election too. So this is going to be a stretch of 100 days that are going to be really, really interesting. We are truly still a purple state, right? Oh, for sure. We're a purple state.

For sure, we are Purple State. There's no question in my mind. It's a Purple State. The Mike Rogers-Aud Abdul El-Sayed race starts at midnight, so at least in my assumption. It starts at midnight tonight. We've already seen that Jocelyn Benson has secured $10 million in airtime that starts, I believe, next week. So that is just her campaign that is not outside groups that are also going to be purchasing airtime. So we are going to be inundated once again with all those text messages and advertisements in the next two days. So enjoy the hour break you might get at some point this evening when people are counting votes so that you can get. ready for more advertising headed your way. There is going to be so much money poured into this race. There are going to be so many commercials. And it's kind of important because if you look at the big picture, you know, this Senate race potentially and even some of the congressional races potentially could determine which party. has power. The Republicans and Democrats are razor thin in the House, razor thin in the Senate, and it in theory could come down to Michigan. And absolutely could come down to Michigan. With everything that went on in the state of Maine this summer, that seat will likely stay with Susan Collins. So there are going to be a lot of people really looking at the Senate race here. I mean, the number of influencers and political types that came in from the coast. over the weekend for Abdul El-Sayed was significant. And I don't think that is going to stop between now and the general election. If he is indeed the Democratic candidate, which the numbers are looking that way at the moment. But I also am weary of trusting all the polls. But just based on what I'm seeing on the ground, I do believe this is Abdul's race to lose at this point. So I think we're just going to have a really crazy fall. When you look at Abdul El-Sayed versus Haley Stevens, why do you think there's so much national attention on this race? Abdul El-Sayed is a candidate that has not been... really able to make this sort of play before. He's young, he's a man of color, he's got a dynamic personality, and he's able to communicate in a way that

Most traditional candidates haven't been able to. And he's woken a group of people up who have been kind of not part of the process. And so they are feeling extremely interested in his candidacy and seeing him go to Washington. Now, the big question I have is whether it is this national attention that is going to... Will it translate as the question I have? It seems like it is. It seems like what I've observed across the state of Michigan, whether that be, you know, in Wayne and Oakland County or in Traverse City area, Grand Rapids area, you're seeing those Abdul El-Sayed signs and you're hearing conversations about him across the state. So I think it is going to translate. But as I jokingly said a few times in the past week, you know, I shredded my political science degree a few years ago when polling really collapsed. And your guess is as good as mine sometimes. So my educated observation is it's going to be Abdul tonight. In Michigan, is Abdul El-Sayed seen as a progressive or a socialist? And how is he seen nationally as a progressive or a socialist? I would say in Michigan, he is seen as a progressive, but nationally he's definitely falling into that Democratic socialist category. He has made some comments that he's not a socialist, that he is a capitalist. But I have a feeling that Mike Rogers and the national Republicans will say that he is a socialist. We're going to see where that campaign goes, I believe, for the next few days, when folks are going to start coming out against Abdul El-Sayed in a way that we haven't yet seen, and the next level of advertising that is about to hit the airwaves here. Money, money, money. Andrew Beiley, Founder, Principal Bightley, Communications. We appreciate the conversation. Thanks so much. Thanks for having me. All right. I hope she's right. I hope the lines are long. I hope people get out there and vote today. All right, quick break. Your calls are next. What do you think? Did you vote yet? Who'd you vote for? Who's going to win? It's all talk. I'm Kevin Deetz. It's 935. That means it's your turn to talk. 1-800-8-9-0-957. 1-800-8-9-0-WJR. Give us a call. Give us a text be a part of the show. It is Election Day across Michigan. While it's a primary election, the stakes couldn't be much higher. Voters will help shape the races for governor, the U.S. Senate, Congress, the state legislature, and local offices. And political observers across America are going to be watching very closely because Michigan often tells the nation where the political winds are blowing.

Is this an election day driven by inflation, immigration, and public safety, or are voters more focused on health care and education? What's important to you? Have you been out this morning? If you have, let us know what you're seeing out there. Are candidates or their surrogates at the polling places where you voted? Can you tell which party is more motivated to get out and vote, Democrats or Republicans? Who are the independents voting for today? Because in the primary in Michigan, you vote either on the Republican side or the Democratic side. You can't cross over. You have to pick one or the other. So if you're truly independent, which side are you deciding to vote on? If you vote on the Democratic side, you get to choose between Abdul El-Sayed and Haley Stevens. If you go on the right side, on the Republican side. You're going to choose between Perry Johnson and John James for governor. Those are the big races anyway. What's getting you off the couch and getting you to vote? What matters to you to make you get out there and vote? 1-800-859-0-9-7, 1-800-5-90 WJR. Let's start with Douglas and Hanover. Douglas, welcome to all talk. Good morning, Kevin. Thanks for taking my call. You bet. I have a novel idea I think would help get people to vote more. And that's to allow us to vote minus one for somebody instead of choosing the person that we like less than the other. The last few elections, I didn't vote for who I wanted. I voted for the other guy, you know what I mean? Because I didn't like anybody. But I really didn't want. I didn't want Hillary in 2016, so I had to vote for Trump. I didn't want Biden, so I had to vote. I didn't want Biden, so I had to vote for Trump. And then I didn't want Trump, so I had to vote for Kamala Harris. So if I could have voted minus one for somebody, then we'd learn a lot more about what people want. Yeah, it's an interesting idea. It really is. I think a lot of people are walking into the ballot box kind of holding their nose and voting for the person they dislike the least, which is tricky and difficult. Did you vote today, Doug? Yes, I did. I voted my entire life. Yeah. Did you go in person? What did it look like? No, I voted early. Mailed it. Okay, good. Yeah, so over a million people have melded in, and that's a pretty good number, and they're expecting over two million today. So that's a pretty good turnout for a primary in Michigan. We'll see which way it takes us. Thanks, Douglas. A good idea. Something worth thinking about for sure. Let's go to Jacqueline in Detroit. Jacqueline, welcome to all talk. Okay, hello. Kevin, one day you're going to listen to me. But here's my, I'm voting for Aptu. I, as I have stated, I am an independent and I am a socialist.

do not like the negativity that spend that people put on socialism because capitalism isn't working for me. But I haven't voted yet. I am going to vote for Abdul. I've given him my money. I've canvassed for him. And I don't understand why. If he says that he's not a socialist, that people still label him as what he said. Haley Stevens in the last debate said that She does not take money from DTE. However, she does take money. Barack Obama is not supporting her. Please listen to me because I do my homework. And that is my comment. Thanks, Jacqueline. Yeah, we had Abdul El-Sayed on the program a couple of times, and he said that his ideas are not socialist. He said his ideas are common sense. He says his ideas are for the working people in the state. When I ask political observers, whether he's seen as progressive or socialist, Andrea Bightley, who we had on this morning, she said in the state, he's seen as progressive. And in the nation, he's being portrayed as a socialist. I take him at his word. He sounds like he has specific ideas for specific problems, and they don't all fit neatly into a package. But they are all progressive ideas, and there's not necessarily anything wrong with progressive. Abdul El-Sayed, he's favored. in this race at this point. He's leading Haley Stevens. So his ideas are definitely resonating with people in the Democratic Party. We'll see if he beats Haley Stevens. And then if he does, we'll see what happens when he goes up against Mike Rogers in the general election. And we'll see what the temperature is of the entire state. But, yeah, Abdul El-Sayed, he's been on the show. And he'll be on the show again if he gets through today for sure. Let's go to Jeff and Dexter. Jeff, welcome to all talk. Hey, how you doing? Doing great. Thanks for calling. I will be voting Democrat for the first time in my life. I will be voting for Haley Stevens because we need to make sure that Al-Sayat does not make it to the Senate. I don't think it matters which Republican candidate gets in because I will be voting for them in the general election. But for the first time in my life, I am so anti-socialist. You're going to do a crossover vote. You normally would vote on the Republican side of the ticket, but you're going to vote on the Democratic side today because you want to make sure Abdul El-Sayed does not beat Haley Stevens. Am I understanding that correct? Yeah, I think a lot of people are doing that, Jeff. I think a lot of Republicans are, they already know Mike Rogers is going to get in. They...

Maybe feel like John James is a shoe in against Perry Johnson, although I don't think that's the case. I think the Republicans who show up and vote today, it's going to be interesting. If a lot of John James voters vote on the Democratic side to vote either for or against Abdul El-Sayed, I think it's interesting if Perry Johnson may bump up a few points if Republicans who aren't worried about the governor's race. move over the way you did it's it's going to be interesting you everyone has that right to do it and i think jeff a lot of people are going to consider or are going to do what you're doing thank you for calling really appreciate it uh let's go to ken in lavonia he voted ken welcome to all talk yes i did vote and if i didn't know better i would have thought it was a regular election because now i was there at seven a m when they opened up And the amount of people there were the same as if it was a regular election. So at least at my voting precinct, it was a good turnout. Oh, good. And one thing I do want to say, since someone brought it up, I used to be a socialist. I used to be a Democrat. And I want to educate people once again because you've got a lot of people in your audience that don't get it. If you want America to be just like the Soviet Union, just like its brother, Cuba, go ahead. Vote for people who are socialist. Socialism does not work. It never has worked. It will not work at all. In other words, if you don't want to be a citizen of the nation, vote socialist. If you want to completely give up your freedom to the government, vote socialist. Socialism, there again, it used to be one, does not work. Thank you, Ken. I appreciate you listening. Appreciate you calling. And mostly, I appreciate you going out there and voting today. Ken says at 7 a.m. It looked like a general election out there. Lots of people, lots of activity. Maybe we're going to have a really good turnout today. I sure hope so. We're going to take a quick break. When we come back, hey, we're going to talk about the FBI. They're investigating these reports of cyber attacks on nine water systems in Michigan. What's it all about? It's all talk. I'm Kevin Deetz. It's all talk on a Tuesday morning. I'm Kevin Deeds coming to you from the Golden Tower of the Fisher Building. The number is 1-800-8-9-57-1-800-8-5-0-WJR. Give us a call. Give us a text. Be a part of the show. Federal authorities, they are investigating a series of cyber attacks targeting community water systems in Michigan and Minnesota after hackers. attempted to interfere with the technology used to monitor and control water treatment facilities. Michigan officials say nine water systems reported suspicious activity, but all continued operating safely and there were no known threats to public health. The FBI, the cybersecurity and infrastructure security agency and other federal partners.

are investigating while recent federal warnings have highlighted Iranian hackers as a growing threat to America's critical infrastructure. Joining us now is our friend Andy Arena, Executive Director of the Detroit Crime Commission and former boss of the FBI office. Good morning, Andy. How are you? Hey, Kevin, good morning. I don't like the idea of people messing with our water. No, no. I mean, look, this has been one of the biggest fears, I think, of the federal intelligence community for many, many years is kind of, you know, the attack on the infrastructure, right? So it could be the power grid, banking, water systems, you know, these types of things. You know, it's really, it's serious, obviously. And so, yeah, I mean, you get in there. I mean, who knows what they were trying to do when they were trying to steal information or, you know, this is all automating, right? So, I mean, you get in there, you can start monkeying around with the system. you know, an additive doesn't go into the water or, you know, something gets messed up with the treatment system. And, you know, then you've got, you know, E. coli or Legionnaires or who knows what. Right. So it's certainly been a major concern for many, many years. You know, they're saying it's uranium. Yeah, that's probably where I put my money. Yeah, you know, something goes into the water and then the water spreads everywhere and it's a big problem. We talked years ago about the need to strengthen security at water facilities because they just weren't something that were highly secured until we realized that they need to be because we can't have people, you know, getting into the facilities. In this case, they're hacking their way in, which is a little different, but I imagine it's also still a serious national security threat. Yeah, and you're right, Ken, we talked years and years ago, but that was more like physical security, right? Somebody getting into the water plant and throwing something into the, you know, into the tanks or who knows what, right? And that certainly is still a threat, but I mean, I think the bigger threat is certainly the infrastructure. attacking the infrastructure, right? And so, you know, when you talk about what really makes this country, what do we need, right? We need power, we need water, and we need our money, right? So those are really kind of the three big things that, you know, a hostile foreign state would be looking at. But yeah, I mean, I think that certainly the cyber attacks have become even greater concern maybe than the physical attacks. As we look at this today, you know, we talk about nine affected water systems. Does this, is this evidence that our defense worked because we identified this and no real problems occurred with the water? Or did we get lucky this time? Do we know? You know, I think, listen, Kevin, this is something that we're, you know, every day, every minute of every day, the professionals are looking at, right? Because, you know, you what I've talked about. The bad guys are always, they're always probing and we've got to try to stay one step ahead. And I mean, that's, it's really difficult. Like, it's being, you know, it's like being a soccer goal, right? You let.

You let one goal in and you lose. So you can't let any, you can't let any balls in the net. So, yeah, I mean, this is something that professionals are doing every minute of every day trying to stay one step ahead. So I would personally take this as, yeah, this is a success story. But we certainly can't rest on it, right? We can't fad ourselves with a back because believe me, they're coming at us another way today. So from an investigative standpoint, does the FBI try and identify specific hackers? Do they try to go after these people? Or do they just say, hey, we need to step up our cybersecurity methods because we can't find these people in Iran who are doing this? Well, I think it's a little bit of both, Kevin. You know, as I said, it's every day, you know, you go in there and, you know, you punch the clock and you're trying to stop these guys, right? And so, you know, trying to save one step ahead of them is probably the most important part. But, you know, all the federal partners, particularly NSA, CIA, the Bureau, believe me, they pretty quickly know who these people are, right? And so we have certainly techniques, offensive techniques that we can use. certainly the one going on the radio. But, you know, there are certain things that our government will do to go after these folks. But, you know, it's difficult, number one, you know, to charge them because, you know, you got to draw them out of that country. That's good luck with that, right? But if you can kind of shut down their ability. But it's like whack them all, right? They pop up, they pop up in a different direction. So, you know, I'm going to guess they probably know pretty quickly who these folks are and almost where they're at. But the best defense is defense, right? Trying to stay one step ahead of them in guard and make it more difficult for them to do these things. Yeah, I worry about these smaller municipalities. I don't know what kind of budgets they have. But I imagine, you know, with this happening in multiple states now, Minnesota, Michigan being... more tax than the others, that they will be putting together some sort of plan for everybody, whether it's large or small municipalities. Yeah, you know, the Department of Homeland Security, their infrastructure protection folks, this is something they're doing every day, right? They're out there. We have folks here in Michigan. We have people in every state, right? And they're dealing with the state and local municipalities to try to. to safeguard the, you know, the power plants and, as I said, the power grid or, you know, the oil refineries, you know, anything that could certainly upset the economy or our ability to function as a nation. So they're working with these folks every day trying to make sure that we guard, guard against the city. And, you know, the federal government traditionally has, particularly since 9-11, put a lot of grant funding into this area to help state and local municipalities. to you know certainly guard against these things but hey kevin it's a threat be it

That drama is beating every day, man. I feel like we're all going to be taking more of those little tests where we don't let viruses into our computers. Our companies make us do that, make sure our passwords are updated and all of that stuff. But they need to do that at the municipalities. It's a real deal. We have to, you know, educate everybody who works at these places and being, you know, as vigilant as possible to make sure we make it as hard as possible. I do I ask you, with the time we left, it is Election Day. What kind of thoughts go into security at the polls on Election Day? Well, I know from a federal level, I know the FBI is, you know, they've got a command post. I'm sure always, especially they've got a command post that up along with the U.S. Attorney's Office. And so any, you know, any information that comes in that there's an issue they're going to investigate it. Yeah. Andy Arena, Executive Director of Detroit Crime Commission, former boss of the Detroit FBI office. Thanks for the conversation. I appreciate it. All right, Jeff. Take care. Yep, have a fabulous week. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. It's all talk. I'm Kevin Deetz. Welcome into the 10 o'clock hour of all talk. I'm Kevin Dietz, bringing you the latest headlines and the stories everyone is talking about. It is Election Day in Michigan. It doesn't matter if you're Republican or Democrat or Independent or somewhere in between. Just get out there and vote. People have been calling in, telling us that they've seen a lot of activity at the polls this morning, saying it looks a lot like a general election, not a primary. That's good. because too many people say my vote doesn't matter. History says otherwise. Generations of Americans fought, sacrificed, even died to protect your right, to walk into that polling place and choose your leaders around the world. Millions of people don't have that freedom. If you're frustrated with government and lots of us are, just go vote and try and make a change. If you're happy with the direction of the country, vote to keep it headed in the same direction. If you want change, go out and vote. If you want things to stay the same vote. Democracy only works when people participate. Polls are open until 8 o'clock tonight. So if you're in line by 8, stay in line. They won't kick you out when the bell tolls 8. If you're there by 8, they will stay and you will have time to vote and you have that right to vote. And it's really important. Take... a few minutes out of your day, even if there's a line and it takes half an hour. Maybe it takes 45 minutes. Go and vote. Bring a friend, bring a spouse, take your kids if they're old enough to vote. But you want to be part of the solution. You don't want to sit on the sidelines. No matter who you vote for, just don't sit this one out. Michigan, by the way, is one of the nation's most closely watched primary elections with more than 2 million ballots expected to be cast. At least 1.2 million residents already voted early. The marquee race, of course, is the Democratic U.S. Senate primary between Abdul El-Sayed.id and Congresswoman Haley Stevens. Everyone is talking about this race across the country. A contest viewed nationally as a battle between the Democratic Party's progressive and establishment wings before the winner of this Democratic primary will face Republican Mike Rogers in November.

Republicans are choosing a gubernatorial nominee with Congressman John James and businessman Perry Johnson, leading the race to succeed term-limited Governor Gretchen Whitmer on the Republican side, while Democrats are expected to nominate Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson over Chris Swanson on the Democratic side. Several competitive congressional primaries and legislative races will also help shape control of Michigan's delegation and state government heading into the general election. Political observers say the results. could offer an early indication of voter enthusiasm around the country, party direction around the country, and issues likely to dominate one of America's most important battleground states this fall. A ton of money is going to be coming to Michigan for this general election. You cannot believe how much money is going to pour into the Senate race and this governor race in the state of Michigan between now and November. University of Michigan Health flagship Ann Arbor Hospitals once again been ranked the best hospital in Michigan and earned a spot on U.S. News and World Report's national honor roll of the country's top 20 hospitals. The rankings were based on factors including patient outcomes, preventable complications, mortality rates, and patient experience. Michigan's largest health system dominated the statewide list with Corwell Health placing five hospitals in the rankings, Trinity Health 4, and Henry Ford Health 3. Corwell-William-Bomont University Hospital Royal Oak ranked second statewide while Trinity Health Ann Arbor and Corwell Grand Rapids tied for third. The annual rankings reinforced the strength of Michigan's largest health systems, which account for the majority of hospital care patients' revenue across the state. President Donald Trump, he's criticizing two of the nation's largest oil companies saying Exxon Mobil and Chevron are making excessive profits while Americans are paying higher prices at the pump. Speaking to reporters, Trump said both companies are making too much money and suggested they should give some of that back to the public. after reporting strong second-cording earnings fueled by higher oil prices during the ongoing conflict with Iran. The remarks really Marco Rubio notable shift as Trump has generally maintained a close relationship with the oil and gas industry while promoting expanded domestic energy production. This was Exxon CEO Darren Woods. Pump prices have been heavily influenced by crude prices because that's the main driver of cost when you have no refinery constraints. There's a disconnect today because now we have a refinery constraint. So pump prices are being established by a supply and demand of refining petroleum products, not crude. That's one of the reasons why we haven't seen crude rise as quickly as people have thought, or we didn't see product prices fall as crude prices came down because there is this disconnect in the marketplace. But until you get flows established in...

resupplying the marketplace. I think we're going to see prices consistent with what we're now experiencing for quite a while yet as you've got to get the straight opened up and then we've got to resupply the inventories and get things moving. So I wouldn't hold my breath here in the short term for that. Yeah, Donald Trump doesn't like that. He thinks that maybe they should take less profits and cut the prices at the pump. They're making too much money. Okay, based on a shortage, they're making too much money. I don't like it. And I should be the last one to say because I'm a big free enterprise guy. Nobody bigger. And, you know, you're going to see oil. When we're finished with Iran, you're going to see the prices drop through the floor. But they made too much money, too much money. Chevron, too much money. Exxon Mobil, too much, too much money. When you look at one company where they made 12 times what they made the year before, they're going to give some of that back to the public, and they better cut the retail price, the consumer price. Too much money. You're surprised I'm saying it? I'll say it loud and clear. I'm not happy about it. The Detroit Tigers continued their dramatic trade deadline overhaul by sending former number one overall draft pick Casey Mize and utility player, Gage Workman, to the San Diego Padres. In return, Detroit acquired two left-handed pitching prospects, including highly regarded 21-year-old Cash Mayfield, the Padre's number two-rated prospect, along with 27-year-old Jackson Wolf. The move comes just days after the Tigers traded their ace, Terrick Scoobel, to the Los Angeles Dodgers, signaling a major reshaping of the roster, despite the club remaining in this playoff race. Tigers President Scott Harris praised both Mize and Scoobel for helping rebuild the franchise and said their strong trade value allowed Detroit to add talented young players for the future. Detroit has now acquired five prospects through its two biggest deadline deals as the organization. balances its postseason hopes with long-term vision. This is Terrick Scuba reacting to fans who thought the Dodgers are trying to buy a championship. I didn't get to, every team could trade for me. You know, every team could make that acquisition. And I don't really sympathize with people that blame the Dodgers for anything they've done. You know, they've developed a really good organization. They draft well. They acquire talent really well. They retain talent. It's a winning organization. Now the complaints seem to be because they've won the last two World Series. I don't think it was like that three years ago. So I don't really sympathize with people that are complaining because the Dodgers do all the right things. And this is Tiger's GM, Scott Harris, saying fans should not be mad at Terrick Scoobel for testing the market. We explored an extension once. The response that I got from Territ's agent was pretty clear that he was intent on going to free agency and exploring the market, which...

is totally his right and nobody should be upset about that. He has put himself in a position to be able to explore a market and he decided that he wanted to do that and should not be criticized for it. But it was very clear from the exchange about what the intentions were and he deserved it. We're going to take a quick break. When we come back, we'll have Roshini Roshkimar. We're talking about Election Day. It's All Talk. I'm Kevin Dietz. It's All Talk on a Tuesday morning, Election Day Tuesday morning. I'm Kevin Dietz coming to you from the Golden Tower of the Fisher Building. The number is 1-800-8-9-0-957. 1-800-9-0-WJR. We are going to take your calls and read your text coming up at 1035. So pick up the phone and be a part of the show. Yep, it's here. Election Day in Michigan, voters are choosing nominees and races across the state. No contest drawing more national attention, though, than Michigan's open U.S. Senate seat. Political insiders from Washington to California are watching. because this race could help determine which party controls the United States Senate on the Democratic side. Abdul El-Sayed. People are saying he's progressive. People are saying he's a socialist. I guess Haley Stevens. People are saying she's a moderate. People are saying she's the establishment choice. That's the race everybody's watching. The winner will go up against Mike Rogers, the Republican, in November. Mike Rogers is endorsed by Donald Trump and he is running unopposed. So he is going to get there and be ready to go come November. Yeah, Michigan, it's a purple state. And I think people are watching it for a couple of reasons. One, because Michigan could decide who takes control of the Senate. That's how razor thin the national race is for control of the Senate. Same with Congress. That's super tight, too. So people are going to be watching our congressional races as well because in Michigan, either party could win. The Democrats have won our Senate seats for a long time. I'm talking over two decades. It goes back a long way since a Republican has won. But Republicans have come very close. in the last several elections. And that is likely to be the case as well. And there's been a lot of polling over who Mike Rogers would do better against, Haley Stevens or Abdul El-Sayed. And is that a reason people might vote for one versus the other, vote for who they think can beat Mike Rogers? Or do Democrats who have to vote on the Democratic side of the ticket today vote for the person they think represents them best? And also, we heard from Republicans.

who called in today and said they're Republicans, but they're going to vote on the Democratic side today because they want to either keep Abdul El-Sayed out of the Senate or they want to keep Haley Stevens out of the Senate, but they've decided to not vote on the Republican side. They've given up that right to vote on the Republican side. How many crossover votes will there be and what impact might that have on this election? Turnout? Hey, it's not terrible. We've had 1.2 million early voters in Michigan. That's a pretty good number, and they're expecting over 2 million in person today. People who've been there say it's been pretty crowded, that it looks more like a general election than a primary election. Let's bring in Roshima, attorney, political strategist, and host of the crisis files. Good morning. How are you? Good morning, Kevin. It's great to hear turnout has been so, so strong, you know, for the pre-voting as well as what you're already seeing at your polls. I always love it when I hear about people exercising their right to vote. Oh, I know. It's great. I hope I'm going after the show. I hope the line is long. I don't mind waiting at all, just being happy that people are getting out and voting. It's just so, so important. You know, I'm sure where you are, you're hearing about this Michigan Senate race. They're talking about it on cable TV every night. They're talking about it on network news. What do you think is so interesting? about Abdul El-Sayed versus Haley Stevens in Michigan? Well, a few things. First of all, I don't know if it's the right term, but you're kind of the bell of the ball right now, Michigan. And in fact, kinetic political insights says that Michigan is the second, the city of Detroit is the second highest when it comes to concentrated ad buying. So as a country, we're over $1 billion in advertising reservations leading up to the midterms. That's across 209 federal and state races. And your race or Senate is probably the most watched. And here are some of the layers that open it up to not only the optics and the interest, but also the potential for crisis. And that is this real move in the Democratic Party to go left. And that is what El-Sayed really represents. Are we even Democrats and Republicans anymore in the United States? Are we even a Democratic Republic anymore when you see the rise of the socialism and, in fact, in some parts of the country, communism? So for a state like Michigan that's so influential, that as you called it, a purple state, but so influential and pretty dense in population, for if Abdul El-Sayed comes out of this primary, the winner, that is... almost like a huge tidal wave that I don't think any of us could have foreseen even four years ago, Kevin. Yeah, it's really interesting. You know, is Michigan's Democratic Party going left? Is the country's Democratic Party going left? I think that a lot of people are going to look.

at Michigan to try and get an understanding of what that means for the rest of the country, if that's going to mean that more progressive candidates or socialist candidates are going to be, you know, put put up in elections across the country. It's interesting with Abdul El-Sayed. He, you know, he has been saying lately that he's not a socialist. He's a common sense. guy. Most people in Michigan sort of see him as progressive over socialist. And I think nationally, maybe it's the other way around. Do you think that's just the way the media coverage is of it? Is it maybe people here feel they know him a little better or maybe just the national media is picking a narrative? Yeah, I think there's a lot of that in it. The national media doesn't see it in the same way as Michigan sees it. And, you know, here's the thing. Michigan voters have a rep for being hardworking people in Michigan, hardworking, not traumatic, not the sensationalistic and the drama of L.A., not the whatever's happening in New York right now. So the bottom line is the country is probably looking to Michigan for a reality check for... you know, hardworking people. And I have to tell you, when I just study his messages and I don't put it through the lens of how he's being covered, he actually does make a lot of sense and he sounds more progressive than he does sound socialist and definitely not communist, which isn't what we can say for Zohran Mamdani over in New York. There's a lot of socialism, communism coming straight out of Zohran Mamdani's mouth. I don't see or hear that to the extent for Abdul El-Sayed. What might be, however, Abdul El-Sayed's problem is he'll say one thing, but then if you look at his profile of wealth, some of those things, there are contradictions there. So to the extent that reporters are just covering it for the pure facts, and that's what I hope Michigan voters are looking at, it will be interesting to see not only what happens tonight, but then how. this will parlay into the rest of the country. It's fascinating, Kevin. It's fascinating to watch. It's also just as much Haley Stevens election to lose in the sense of she loses. That's also a slap in the face to the establishment Democrats, which don't need any more slaps in the face. They are getting beaten up left and right across the country right now. So she's a bit of a standard bearer. And what happens to her? ends up being a reflection on what could happen. Here in my state of Minnesota, our primary is in one week from today. And across the country, there are other primaries going on. You just, Michigan just happens to be this first big one, and all eyes are definitely on you. You talked about money in the governor's race here. Jocelyn Benson, the Democrat, has reserved $10 million ad buy between now and November. That's just one candidate, and that's for governor. The Senate race is going to have even more money thrown at it. But what concerns me is a lot of the money.

maybe even most of the money is coming from out of state. And I don't like national money deciding who represents Michigan, but it doesn't seem like there's much we can do about it. There isn't. I mean, unfortunately, that ship sailed a long time ago because all races are being affected by outside money, no matter where you look. If it's a hot seat, if it means the tipping of the majority or the change of the majority in Washington, D.C., then things will come in. And here's another interesting fact for you, Kevin, for Michigan. KPI is projecting Michigan will exceed $1 billion. Wow. in political advertising this cycle. Comparing that to just four years ago, you guys spent $67 million. That's a huge, huge jump. We should have invested in some of those. We should have bought a TV station. All right. Rashidi Rajkumar, attorney, political strategist, and host of the Crisis Files. Thanks for the conversation. Appreciate it. Thank you. All right. We're going to take your calls to us. What are you thinking on this election day? 1-800-8590 WJR. It's all talk. I'm Kevin Deetz. It's 1036. That means it's your turn to talk. 1-800-8-9-57. 1-800-8-5-7. 1-800-5-9-0 WJR. Give us a call. Give us a text. Be a part of the show. Yeah, it's Election Day. What do you think? Have you been out there? It looks like a pretty good turnout over 1.2 million early votes in this primary, and they're expecting over 2 million in person votes today. Most people are talking about the big Senate race, the open seat, Abdul El-Sayed versus Haley Stevens. Abdul El-Sayed, progressive or socialist. He's supported, endorsed by Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Haley Stevens, a moderate, the establishment choice? She has Gretchen Whitmer's endorsement. The winner will face Mike Rogers, who has Donald Trump's endorsement in November. People really watching the governor's race, too. Perry Johnson versus John James, especially. People are wondering if the businessman Perry Johnson can upset John James, who is endorsed by Donald Trump. On the Democratic side, you have Chris Swanson and Jocelyn Benson. Jocelyn Benson is expected to win, but you never know. Jocelyn Benson is endorsed by Gretchen Whitmer. Ted and Trenton says tomorrow I'll be voting because I believe that's one of the few opportunities. Ordinary people have to influence government. My biggest concern is the economy, groceries, insurance, utilities, and just about everything else costs more today than it did a few years ago. Whoever wins needs to make affordability, their top priority. That's what we're hearing all across the country. That affordability is the top priority. I think when we get to the general election, that is all anyone's going to be talking about. Linda and Grand Rapids says, I'm watching the Senate race very closely because I think it's going to say a lot about where the Democratic Party is headed. Is Michigan Democrats future more progressive?

or more moderate. We're going to find out when the votes are counted. Yeah, people think if Abdul El-Sayed wins, that means the Democratic Party is moving to the left. And if Haley Stevens wins, it's going to stay more moderate. Steve says, I work in manufacturing. I want candidates who understand that Michigan still depends on good paying industrial jobs. Electric vehicles, tariffs, global competition, they all matter. But so does making sure people can still earn a middle class living here. Yeah, Michigan is really suffering. Our earning is way down when you compare it to other states. We are in the bottom 10 when it comes to how much we earn. And that is not a good sign. That's something we have to work on. Katie and nobody says the governor's race probably doesn't get enough attention. Whoever wins will make decisions on education, roads, public safety, and the state budget. Those issues affect my family every single day, regardless of what's happening in Washington. Yeah, the governor's race is big, and it's going to be very interesting to see how this plays out. 1-800-8-9-57-18-8-9-5-7-WJR. Let's go to David and Shelby Township. David, welcome to all talk. Yeah, good morning. Longt, I'm listening to a first-time call. Oh, thanks for calling. We appreciate it. No problem. Honestly, I like to go in person. I like to put my rivalize on the table to be really American. Of course, I support my partner. I'm ex-Marine. I just came back from the war zone, Jimmy Jay Jones, and then I support all the Republicans. I don't want a socialism. And as Syed, I scare from him. Not only is aggressive. And a socialism, maybe he supported Sharia, the way that happened in New York. We have to separate the religion from the politics, but they believe in a religion more than anything in the world. That scared me. I wish everybody to go to do his duty. I support all the time Republican, and I am Republican. I'm also co-chairman for Pride of Michigan Pack. All right, David. Thank you for listening and thanks for calling for the first time. Please call back whenever you want. We'd love to have you on. Yes, I like to vote in person too. I like to walk in. I like to stand in line, observe the folks, talk to the people, work in the tables, and then go vote in person. I think being able to vote by mail is really important because I do think it opens up voting to more people. And I really think everybody who's eligible should vote. And the easier we can make that. the better. But for me, I like, I like walking in there in voting. Let's go to John and Sterling Heights. John, welcome to all talk. Oh, thank you. A couple things I want to say. I already voted today. I voted for feelings. I do not want a socialist slash communist. The problem, if he wins, we are going to have a socialist slash communist. on the Democrat side, and a Republican on the other side who supports a convicted felon. Now, this is, I hate to say it, but this is not the United States anymore. It's Rome. We are being run by Caesar, and look what happened to Rome. This country has to change 32% approval rating by Trump. 51% of the people want to get rid of Congress. That's how bad of a job they're doing.

Thank you, John, for listening. I appreciate you, Colin. I appreciate you listening. Thanks for sharing. It's a big day. Everybody has an opinion and everybody has a vote. So get out there and vote. Let's go to Diane and Dearborn. Diane, welcome to all talk. Yeah, I don't think Trump's a tyrant. If he was a tyrant, he would be putting all these people in prison that are voting socialism. So there you go. He's no tyrant. Not only that, if you're going to vote for a socialist... be prepared to go to war because that's what they're doing in Russia. Russia is sending all this people. It's a socialist country trying to take over another country. And many Russians are dying. A duel, he is what he is, a socialist, because he has Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. They're with him, you know, when he's running. And I remember one thing that Bernie Sanders said that really picked me off. He said, I went in a store. and i looked on the shelf and i thought different dozens of different deodorants on the shelf and i thought to myself now Bernie Sanders said this I thought to myself there should only be one brand on the shelf so it makes it easier for people to shop. And I'm thinking right there that tells me all about him. One brand, everybody can't use the same brand because everybody has different skin conditions. So that's who Bernie Sanders is. He's going to give you one choice, and that's it. Thank you, Diane. I appreciate you calling. Appreciate you listening. Get out there and vote. Let's go to Pat in Richmond. Pat, welcome to All Talk. Hey, Kevin. Yeah, in regards to this election, I think El-Syad is kind of a canary in the cave. Is our population educated when it comes to why we have... an affordability issue. You look at the policies that have been put in place over the years. These have been democratic policies. You look at Bernie Sanders, pressure the Federal Reserve and other liberal politicians to lower the interest rates on mortgages. And that created an overheated market. And they were warned that this would overheat the market. So it causes a contortion of the marketplace where many people don't want to give up and sell their house now because they got the low market rates. coupled with the fact you let 20 million or who knows how many into the country the the demand goes up but the supply is not going up so these type of policies drive it up and you look at like education the the government student loan program that drove up college education astronomically more than anything that was a democratic policy furthermore obamacare has that lowered the cost since it's been implemented no it's driven up cost and so people are You know, our taxpayers helped subsidize it and it still went up. So people's got to understand the long-term ramifications of policies. It's not, you know, it trumps that the affordability just happened because he's doing the straight of her move. It's other factor. We have to leave it there. We're up against the clock. Appreciate all of the callers, all of the opinions, and everybody who got out and voted today or is going to get out there and vote. It's all talk. I'm Kevin Dietz.

It's all talk on a Tuesday morning. I'm Kevin Deeds coming to you from the Golden Tower of the Fisher Building. The number is 1-800-8-5-9-57-18-8-5-0-WJR. Pick up the phone and be a part of the show. As the conflict involving Iran continues to pressure global energy markets, the CEO of Chevron is warning that the world faces a very real threat to oil supplies. Mike Worth says shipping risks now extend beyond the straight of her moves to the Red Sea and the Black Sea, while damage to energy infrastructure is tightening supplies worldwide. With gasoline averaging more than $4 per gallon nationally and oil prices climbing, the economic impact is already reaching American consumers. One person who is not happy about this is President Donald Trump. They're making too much money. Okay. Based on a shortage, they're making too much money. I don't like it. And I should be the last one to say because I'm a big free enterprise guy. Nobody bigger. And, you know, you're going to see oil. When we're finished with Iran, you're going to see the prices drop through the floor. But they made too much money, too much money. Chevron, too much money. Exxon Mobil, too much, too much money. When you look at one company where they made 12 times what they made the year before, they're going to give some of that back to the public. And they better cut the retail price, the consumer price. Too much money. You're surprised I'm saying it? I'll say it loud and clear. I'm not happy about it. Loud and clear, he is not happy about it. Let's bring in Jonathan Savage, Fox News correspondent and WGR contributor. Good morning. Hello, good morning. Thanks for being with us. What did you make of the president's comments? Do they surprise you at all? Perhaps a little. Like he says, he's a free enterprise guy. He's a free market guy. He's not normally want to object to profits being made by large companies and large American companies in particular. But I think a lot of people's jaws are hitting the floor when they see what is happening, when they see a five-fold increase. on the same period last year. Quite clearly, war is good for business, for Chevron, for ExxonMobil, and for BP, another oil company that's made a significant increase in profit during the last quarter. So President Trump's saying that they better give some of that back to the American people. It remains to be seen exactly what his plan is for this if he has one. He talked about how if... the oil companies had passed on the drops in oil prices that we saw temporarily, then gas prices would have fallen to about 255 a gallon. They are still around about $4 a gallon at the moment last I checked. And there's a lot of criticism for these companies for not dropping prices when the wholesale price drops, but putting them very quickly indeed when there's a rise in the cost of a barrel of crude oil. Yeah, I think I filled up at about 415 the other day, and I think that's what we're seeing around the country in those ranges anyway as a national average. Donald Trump seemed to say there that, you know, when the situation with Iran is over, that the gas prices are going to drop like Iraq or drop dramatically. When I listen to Chevron CEO, Mike Worth, I'm not sure they're on the same page.

Perhaps not, although I think that's pretty clear that if and when this conflict does come to an end and when shipping goes through the Strait of Hormuz again, prices will start to come down. Now, there is skepticism as to whether they will come down very quickly. Because what Mike Worth was talking about, the Chevron CEO, is not just the issue being the Strait of Hormuz and the Red Sea. and the choke points here in the supply. But also this conflict has caused a lot of damage to energy infrastructure in places like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, and getting that energy back up and running, getting these locations, these plants back up and running, repaired, back at capacity is going to take several months. It's not going to happen overnight, even if this conflict did end overnight. Yeah, that's for sure. You can't just flip a light switch and the infrastructure that's been damaged is back. That takes time. And even a few months sounds aggressive to me. We'll have to wait and see, you know, when they're able to do that and how long that takes. But that's definitely going to be a big piece of the puzzle. We've talked a lot about the Strait of Hermuz. Tell us a little bit about the Red Sea and the Black Sea. So the Red Sea, the issue there, is that the Houthis, who are based in Yemen, are upset with Saudi Arabia. They say that Saudi Arabia has effectively been locating them, so they are going to take action against the Saudis. So they have been threatening Saudi Arabian ships trying to get through the Red Sea into the Suez Canal. That's another incredibly crucial waterway for international shipping and for the trade of goods around the world. So if Saudi Arabia are unable or unwilling to take the risk of transiting the Red Sea, then that causes extra cost and delay for their oil exports. There is some talk that the Houthis are allowing Saudi ships that are supplying China to go through because the Houthis have a good relationship with China. But still, that does all have an impact. The Black Sea, that is the seed that's caught up in the middle of the Russia-Ukraine war. And since that war began, we have seen an impact on oil. prices as well. In fact, the last time that these oil companies were in the news, I think, for making extraordinary profits was when the cost went up when the Russia-Ukraine war started. You know, you talk about the hooties when we went to war with Iran. One of the stated missions or goals, I guess, I would say, was to stop this flow of money from Iran to proxies like the hooties. Do we know if the money flow between Iran and these proxies were stopped? And if so, how are the hooties able to, you know, be so aggressive in the Red Sea against Saudi Arabia? Well, the Houthis have been supported by Iran for a very long time, financially, in terms of military equipment and in terms of training, expertise, and intelligence.

This is not a sort of hand-to-mouth situation. The Houthis have enormous stockpiles of these supplies, and likely they have significant stockpiles of money as well. So even if Iran is having some trouble on their doorstep, their allies around the region will still be able to benefit from the past support for some time to come. I imagine there's multiple industries that are affected beyond gasoline when crude oil prices remain elevated. Do you think this has an impact on some of this affordability issues and inflation issues that the American people have been so worried about? I think it does. I mean, the one that comes to mind instantly is that a lot of the constituent ingredients for fertilizer, fertilizer products come through the Strait of Hormuz. And that has been a problem for agriculture in various parts of the world. And if agriculture has a problem, then food supply becomes a problem and the cost of food goes up. And food costs are going to go up anyway if they haven't already because transporting food costs money because you need fuel to transport food. fuel costs more. This all gets passed on to the consumer. And that's why we're seeing inflation at the grocery stores in many parts of the world. So, yeah, the knock-on effect as a result of the problem, the crisis in the strata farmers, really, is going to be felt for a wide variety of sectors. And that's all going to come back to what in the end. Jonathan Savage, Fox News correspondent, WJR contributor. Thank you so much for the conversation. Thanks, Kevin. Really appreciate it. Yep. All eyes are going to be on Iran. Donald Trump has said kind of this is the last warning. If they don't make a deal this time, he is going to hit them harder than anyone's been hit since World War II. Is that just a negotiation tactic or does he mean it? We're going to see what happens in the days and weeks ahead. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. It's all talk. I'm Kevin Deetz. And welcome into the 11 o'clock hour of all talk. I'm Kevin Deeds bringing you the latest headlines and the stories everyone is talking about. The big story today is today is Election Day in Michigan. And here's something that should make every one of us proud. More than 1.2 million Michiganers have already voted early. Think about that before the polls even opened this morning. Over a million of your neighbors had already made their voices heard. Here's the exciting part. Election officials expect more than 2 million people to vote by the time the polls close tonight. I have a different goal. Let's make it 3 million. Let's surprise everybody. Let's make this one of the biggest voter turnouts in Michigan primary history because whether you're Republican or a Democrat or an independent or somebody who doesn't like either party, doesn't like politics at all. Today's really bigger than politics. It's about participation.

One of the things that has always made America different is that the people choose the government. That's pretty cool. Not the government choosing the people. Not a king, not a dictator, not a ruling class. You and me. Every eligible voter gets the exact same voice. That's the incredible privilege. And here's the reality. You can't really complain about the government if you won't spend 20 minutes helping choose it. You don't have to love the candidates. You don't have to agree with every issue. But don't let someone else make this decision for you because you decided the couch was more comfortable than the polling place. If you think taxes are too high, and I do, go vote. If you think government spends too much money and I do, then go vote. If you're worried about crime and I am, go vote. If health care is your issue, and it's a big issue, go vote, roads, schools, inflation, the economy, whatever it is. Go and vote. Your ballot is your voice. And if enough people speak, politicians have no choice but to listen. We're hearing all morning that Michigan is one of the most important political states in America. The entire country is watching us today. They're watching our governor's race. They're watching our Senate race. The congressional races. The eyes of the nation are on Michigan, so let's show them something. Let's show them that Michiganders care. Let's show them that democracy still matters here in Michigan. Let's show them that participation isn't dead. If you've already voted, thank you. Good for you. If you haven't, there's still plenty of time. Polls are open until 8 o'clock tonight. And if you're in line by 8, stay in line because you have the right to vote. Once you're there, they will stay until your vote is cast. So get up. Put down the phone, turn off the TV, grab your spouse, grab your adult kids, grab a friend, offer someone a ride. Let's take that expected $2 million and push it towards $3 million, not for one candidate, not for one party, but for democracy. Do it for Michigan. The simple idea that in America, the people still have the final say. Get out there and vote. All right, leading up to the election day, Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer went to social media to point out the successes of her administration. Back in 2018, I ran for governor with a pretty simple goal. Make life a little easier for Michiganers. That idea came from listening to people all across our state, including one woman who was trying to get to the hospital to see her son, but spent the day dealing with a blown tire from a pothole. Moments like that. change how you look at the job. If you're driving to work or picking up your kids from school, you shouldn't be dodging potholes or paying for repairs you didn't plan for. And that's why by the end of this construction season, we will have fixed more than 26,000 lane miles of road and nearly 2,000 bridges, and we're still going strong. If you've got a four-year-old at home, finding child care shouldn't break the bank. So we made pre-K-free, making sure that more kids can start kindergarten off strong and more parents can go to work knowing their child is set up to succeed. If your kids are in school, well, guess what? All 1.4 million public school students in Michigan now receive free breakfast and lunch, no questions asked. And if you're working long hours, picking up overtime, or relying on tips, you should be able to keep more money in your pocket. So we cut a billion dollars in taxes, cutting taxes on tips, overtime, and Social Security. And whether it's making Michigan the best place to retire, expanding opportunity through good paying jobs and tuition-free college, protecting civil

rights or taking common sense steps on gun safety it all comes back to that simple goal making life a little easier and helping more people get ahead The governor will wrap up her eight years at the end of this year. She has not indicated what her future plans are, but has said she is not planning to run for president in 2028. Donald Trump also using social media today. He says it's my great honor to endorse America First Patriot Captain Mike Bouchard, who is running to represent the wonderful people of Michigan's 10th congressional district. A third generation, Mishigander, brave U.S. Army veteran and Bronze Star recipient, Mike has served his state and nation with distinction and will bring the same fighting spirit to the U.S. Congress. As your next congressman, Mike will fight tirelessly to grow our economy, cut taxes and regulations, promote made in the USA, unleash American energy dominance, keep our border secure, stop migrant crimes, strengthen our incredible military veterans, advanced election integrity, and defend our always under siege Second Amendment. Mike Bouchard has my complete and total endorsement to be the next representative for Michigan's 10th Congressional District. Election Day is today. Get out and vote for Mike. He will never let you down. So the politicians are out there trying to convince you to vote for one party or the other, one person or another. Hey, two eCoursemen. They are facing felony charges after Michigan State Police said they posed as construction workers. to steal approximately $65,000 in cash, jewelry, and blank checks from a Monroe County home. Investigators say the homeowner allowed the men inside because they recognized one of them from a company that had previously performed work at the residence. Surveillance video allegedly showed the suspects leaving the home just minutes later. with stolen items concealed in their pockets. Police later tracked the pair to a home in e-course where investigators recovered jewelry, blank checks belonging to the victims and more than $3,000 in cash during the execution of that search warrant. Both suspects have been charged with larceny over $20,000 and larceny in a building, each is being held on $75,000 bond and probable cause hearing is scheduled for August the 10th. The Michigan House and Senate, they spent nearly $460,000 of your tax money on legal fees during an 18-month court battle over nine bills that Democratic Governor Gretchen Whitmer ultimately vetoed anyway. The Republican-controlled House spent more than $336,000, while the Democratic-led Senate spent about $124,000 litigating whether the House was constitutionally required to send the legislation to the governor after it passed both chambers. The dispute reached the Michigan Supreme Court before the bills were finally delivered to Gretchen Whitmer, who then vetoed them because the lengthy delay had made portions of the legislation outdated, in her opinion. The bills addressed issues including funding for Detroit area museums, correction officer pensions, debt collection, rules and government employee health benefits. Democratic lawmakers have since...

reintroduce the measures, but House Speaker Matt Hall says any movement on the bills will require negotiations over broader Republican priorities, including property tax relief and government spending. President Trump says Iran is getting its last chance to reach a diplomatic agreement before the United States considers a much more significant military response. Trump told Fox News, negotiations are currently focused on reopening the straight of her moves. and ending Iran's nuclear ambitions with Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, supporting the diplomatic effort. The president said he delayed a planned military strike after Iran requested additional time for negotiations, but warned the option remains on the table. Former Vice President Mike Pence disagreed with the pause, arguing Iran's remaining nuclear facilities should be destroyed before any lasting peace can be achieved. The development comes as U.S. officials continue balancing diplomacy with military readiness. in the ongoing tensions in the Middle East. We'll keep watching this for you over the next days and weeks. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. It's All Talk. I'm Kevin Dietz. It's All Talk on a Tuesday morning. I'm Kevin Deetz coming to you from the Golden Tower of the Fisher Building. The number is 1-800-859-07, 1-800-8-9-0-WJR. We're going to take your calls and read your text coming up at 1135. So pick up the phone and be a part of the show. So, a WMBA game over the weekend became the latest flashpoint in America's culture wars. Minnesota Lynx head coach Cheryl Reeve wore a shirt reading, Transk Kids Belong, before Sunday's game against the Indiana Fever. The Indiana Fever's roster includes Sophie Cunningham, a player who has publicly opposed transgender athletes competing in women's sports. Reeve says her message is about inclusion in protecting transgender children, while critics argue the debate is really about fairness in protecting women's sports. The controversy once again raises a broader question about where sports, politics, and social activism intersect and whether the WMBA risks alienating fans or strengthening its identity by taking public positions on divisive issues. Join us now as James David Dixon, host of the James Dixon podcast. Good morning. How are you?

Are you there, James? Hey, Kevin, can you hear me? Yeah, we got you now. We got you now. Okay. What do you make of this mess with the WMBA? Right now, I mean, they're riding a high. More people are paying attention to the WNBA than in the history of the game combined, I would think. Is this the kind of thing they want to get into? And this shows why the WNBA is in need of male leadership. These women who are running at a very suicidal instinct. For the first time in three years, A sizable amount of people are watching the product. The women are riding around in private planes nowadays. That owes to Caitlin Clark. And that would all go away if there was a bunch of Juana men's out there running around who failed at the NBA, couldn't be male basketball players, and are now competing against women. They know this, but they can't say it because ideology demands that they be down for the cause, whatever that cause might be. It seems so obvious to me that men should not be playing in the WNBA. It shouldn't even have to be said the fact, you know, that Sophie Cunningham has said that. And the reaction to that really surprises me. And then they, you know, they go to some of the other coaches and some of the other stars. And it seems like everyone is. not only afraid to say that men should be playing in the WNBA, but, you know, they go further and say, you know, we have to have a place for trans kids in women's sports. You know, I just don't, I don't know why the WNBA. the people who run it, why they wouldn't come out and say, of course, we can't have men playing in the WNBA. It's a women's national basketball association. It's for women. It would be dangerous to have men playing against women. And let's think about this. They can't even just stand and say, this is what we believe, we think there should be dudes who identify as women who are allowed to play. They have to hide behind kids. The problem with hiding behind trans kids is there's no such thing as trans kids. There's not one kid who ever woke up one day and said, man, I was born in the wrong body. That's an idea they get from adults. And by the way, anyone listening, if you have kids in the school system, if ever your kid comes home and says they were assigned male or female at birth, that means they're being groomed.

No kid thinks of it that way. Every human being says they were born a certain sex. Nobody thinks they were assigned. That's an ideological word, and it's a sign of ideological capture. So it's funny they have to hide behind kids because the kids wouldn't believe that stuff if they weren't groomed into it. I think that inclusion is important in a lot of areas. You know, you want as many kids, people involved in as many activities as you can. But I don't think you can do that to a point where it puts other people at risk physically. And the other issue when I look at this is if they're allowing men to come in to the WMBA, every man that decides to do this. is going to take a job away from a woman. It comes at the expense of women if you allow transgender men to play in the WMBA. Which is something that you think of if your job were to uphold and uplift women's sports, if you wanted WNBA to be a successful business venture. But these people, they view WNBA as an extension of LGBT, as an extension of queer theory. So it's their job to promote the cause. They don't care how it affects any actual human beings. They just want to be on code and on message. And what I find hilarious is that so many of these women will say these things without yet facing that reality. There's high school girls facing it, but there's no men in the WNBA at this moment. And if there were one, I have to think the tune would change pretty quickly. Yeah, what do you, I mean, what do you think the WMBA's goal is here? Because everyone's talking about the WMBA. That's nice. People talking about it is good. You know, they say there's no bad press. But I don't think this is exactly. what you want people discussing when they talk about the WNBA right now. I think you want to talk about these incredible women who have been able to come out there and play this game so well and entertain crowds and be competitive and that people are enjoying to watch the game. You suddenly throw something like this and it reminds me of, I don't know, you know, when big brands like Coca-Cola or Target got involved in these issues and people just shut it down. And that's what's going to happen here. Were that horizon to be crossed? If they crossed that Rubicon and actually had dudes in the league, you know, and they say, oh, we've had trans players. Yeah, you've had women who claim their men and dress as men. That's not the same thing as men playing a woman's sport. So these are luxury beliefs. carried out by a welfare league. The WNBA is underwritten by the NBA. So they don't need it to make business sense because the men who actually bring in the billions in revenue, they've handled the money part and they think it's their job to just carry out politics. I think if the WNBA were spun off into its own venture, they'd be singing a very different tune.

The NBA went through some of this as well during Black Lives Matter and things like that. They have sort of moved away from that. What do you see going forward when it comes to the WMBA? Do you think they will be encouraged to leave politics, you know, off the court, out of the league and just go play the games? You know, unfortunately, the closest thing to a man situation is NBA Commissioner Adam Silver. And he damn near let the NBA be crashed into the rocks before pivoting away from the social justice, the Black Lives Matter, and just get back the actual sport of basketball. So were he to correct his course? That might happen two, three years from now, but this is supposed to be a golden age of growth. They don't have two years to waste. So I hope sanity comes in. I just don't know what means it would take to get there. And I'm not optimistic that that will happen. All right. James David Dixon, host of the James Dixon podcast. I appreciate the conversation. Hey, thank you, Kevin. Yeah, it's something. We're going to take your calls on this, too. 1-800-8-5-9-0-WJR. Your text is well. Tom and Shelby Township says, I watch sports to get away from politics, whether I agree with the message or not. I'd rather see coaches talking about basketball than social issues before tip-off. I think a lot of people look to sports to just... Get away from it. You know, all this politics, all this talking politics with family and friends. You know, you go home, you flip on the game, you just want to watch a game sometimes. I agree, Tom. Linda says, I don't have a problem with Coach Reeve expressing compassion for transgender kids. We can support children while still having honest conversations about fairness in elite women's sports. Yeah, we can have the conversations, but do we have to have them during the games? Do we have to wear shirts? Maybe it's just fine. But I just think the WMBA is putting itself at risk. by not addressing what is obvious that men in women's sports, men in the WMBA would just be too dangerous. Mike says there are really two different debates happening. One is how we treat transgender people with dignity and respect. The other is whether biological males should compete in women's sports. They're not exactly the same issue. That's exactly right. These are two different issues. We can treat transgender people, we can treat all people with dignity and respect. But when you come to the biological issue of should men compete in women's sports, I think the vast majority of people realize that's not the case. We'll take your calls on it next. It's all talk. I'm Kevin Deetz. And it's 1137. That means it is your turn to talk. 1-800-859-0-9-7. Boy, all eyes on Michigan. Pete Buttigieg, by the way, who's from Michigan now, lives up in Traverse City. He is more inclined than not to run for president in 2028. Gretchen Whitmer has said she is not running in 2028. But Pete Buttigieg, who now lives in Traverse City, says he's more likely to run than not to run.

Election Day, all of the national news focused on the open Senate seat in Michigan. Abdul El-Sayed versus Haley Stevens. Abdul El-Sayed, the progressive candidate backed by Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Haley Stevens, the moderate establishment candidate backed by Gretchen Whitmer. The winner will take on Mike Rogers. Also, the governor's race is being closely watched in Michigan because Michigan is a purple state with the governor. It seems to go. back and forth every eight years. Gretchen Whitmer, Democrat, has been in for the last eight years. Will it switch over to Republicans? And if so, will that be Perry Johnson or John James? They are duking it out today to see who's going to make it through the primary and face the winner of Jocelyn Benson and Chris Swanson. So a lot of eyes on the politics and election day in Michigan. Boy, what do you think it would be like if Mike Duggan was still in the race? A lot of people have been talking about that, how they wish Mike Duggan was still in the race and how that is who they were going to vote for. Who are those Mike Duggan voters going to vote for? We're also talking about the WNBA. This game over the weekend turned into much more than basketball. Minnesota Lynx head coach Cheryl Reeves. She wore a T-shirt. reading trans kids belong before her team's game against the Indiana fever. Reeve says she believes every child deserves the opportunity to participate in sports and describe the issue as one of inclusion and human rights. Sophie Cunningham plays for Indiana fever and she has been outspoken about the idea that trans men should not be allowed to play in women's sports. She does not believe that the WNBA should be open to transgender men. There are no transgender men currently playing in the WMBA. She thinks it should stay that way. She also thinks that men should not be allowed to be in any women's sports, citing the possibility of danger or injury for women and the loss of opportunity for women if spots are taken by trans men. So now that reporters are going to everybody in the WNBA saying, what do you think? What do you think? Caitlin Clark sidestepped the issue. Some of the coaches have said they're in favor of trans kids having a place to go, of inclusion. And it's become much more of a story than any of the actual WNBA game. So is it a good idea? for the WNBA to use their platform to speak out on controversial social issues. Do you want people to just play the games or do you want them to use their platform to speak out on the issues of the day? Where do you draw the line between inclusion and competitive fairness when it comes to transgender athletes in women's sports? We don't want to exclude people, but competitive fairness is a real issue. 1-800-859-0-957, 1-800-8-9-0-WJR. Let's go to Tommy and Auburn Hills. Tommy, welcome to all talk. Hey, thanks again, man, for the call. You bet. Yeah, you know, it's so obvious to me. It's like, you know what, if you were born, you're born a boy, you grow up, you're a man, you're a young man.

and you decide all of a sudden somebody tells you or you tell yourself, I want to turn into a woman. I want to become a woman. You are not allowed to play in women's sports. It should be that simple. What is so hard about that to understand? Yeah. You're going to be stronger. You're going to be, you know, I don't care what, how many, whatever hormones you take or whatever it is. Turn yourself into a female. It's just not right. It's ridiculous to me. And it shouldn't even be talked about. It shouldn't be allowed. Appreciate it, Tommy. Thanks for listening. Thanks for calling in. Yep, you bet. Is it possible to support and respect transgender individuals while also believing women's sports should have separate competitive rules? I think so. I think it is. You can respect transgenders. But. Women's sports should have separate competitive rules. There's a reason for it. And the WMBA, boy, they have enjoyed tremendous growth over the past two years. Since Caitlin Clark came into the league, a lot of new fans are paying attention to women's sports. And they're not just watching Caitlin Clark. They're watching all of these excellent. female athletes who are playing in the NBA at WMBA and they're watching competitive games and they're enjoying the games and it's growing bigger and bigger. Is it smart to jump in and start engaging in controversial social issues, changing the conversations from, you know, how good these athletes are in the WMBA to what side of what issue they're on? Let's go to Jason and Mylan. Jason, welcome to all talk. Hey. Why don't we just put together a whole team of transgender dudes and go out and win everything all the time? In the WMBA? Yeah. Why not? Well, why not just have a transgender league? Why not if you're transitioning, if you're transitioning, put a whole league together. You can have the WMBA, the NBA, and the TNBA or whatever it would be. Sure, whatever you want to call it. Right? I don't know. I don't know how many trans genders there are. I really don't. I don't know what the percentage is. I don't know what the percentage is that want to play in women's sports. But I think, you know, if you're just talking about physicality and fairness, you know. We don't see women trying to get in the men's leagues. It's only guys trying to get in the girls' leagues. Right. No, of course not. Of course not. Yeah. You know, why don't we just put together like 10 dudes who want to wear a wig and go out there and crush them game after game and win the league for years? It'd be too dangerous for them to play against women, in my opinion. Well, if that's what the coaches want, you know, all these women coaches running around out there thinking we need to be inclusive. Well, maybe they need to learn a lesson. Appreciate it, Jason. Thanks for listening. Thanks for calling. We're up against the clock. It's All Talk. I'm Kevin Deetz. It's All Talk. I'm Kevin Deetz on a Tuesday morning coming to you from the Golden Tower of the Fisher Building.

Tonight, neighborhoods across Michigan and the country are going to be celebrating National Night Out. It's an annual event designed to strengthen relationships between police officers and the communities they serve. This is cool. Instead of meeting during a crisis, neighbors gather for block parties, cookouts, kids' activities, police demonstrations, and conversations with local officers, firefighters, and first responders. The idea. It's really simple. Safer communities are built when neighbors know one another, trust law enforcement, and work together to prevent crime before it happens. Join us now as Steve Dolat, retired Detroit police assistant chief. Hey, Steve, how you doing? It's a beautiful day. It is a beautiful day. I love this idea of national night out. I think about, you know, it reminds me of the old days, you know, where the police officer drives down the street and everybody waves and they stop and the kids look at the car and they ask if they can put the lights on. You know, now I don't know what happens when a police officer drives down the street right now. Maybe they have to have their head on a swivel. They still wave, but they use a different motion. But I know this is a great thing. I love Nashville Light Out. I used to go to all the precincts and check it out. And again, you're right. They meet the police and just a regular, hi, how are you doing? As opposed to domestic violence. Someone's been shot. Someone's missing. This is, hi, I'm a real person. You're a real person? Let's talk. I wear a uniform, but you know what? I'm still like you. And they have the rides and they have the food. And they see a different side of the police that they normally don't see. you know too many times and officers ride down the street windows when the windows are up air conditioning's on and you're not really interacting with the officers when i came out and have air conditioning so you've got the windows down and you talk to the people and that's what this is about You know, talking to the people, get to know them, and build relationships with them. It's a good idea. Yeah, you can't do that on an actual police call. There's too much going on to really get to know the residents or the residents to get to know the police officers. Because the police officers, at that point, they have to do their job. That's what they've been called to do there. But having opportunities like this to get to know each other, I think. I think it's more than just nice. I think it actually can help reduce crime. I think that when, you know, the community respects the law enforcement and the law enforcement respects the community, I think people are probably less likely to go out and commit crimes.

I agree. Respect is earned. It's not given. And too many of these criminals don't respect themselves, so they're not going to respect anyone else. But when you're out at a precinct and you see horses, right, where the helicopter come in and the officers riding on the bicycles and their motorcycles and they're talking, joking, laughing, shooting hoops out in the parking lot, throwing the football. These kids can relate like, hey, I don't have a father, I don't have a mother. Look at these officers. They're taking the time to be with me. They're not judging me. It's a great community builder. And that's why it's going throughout the entire country. And it's great. I really think it's a good thing. Yeah, I do too. You know, social media has been rough on law enforcement. They show all the bad and rarely show any of the good that law enforcement does, even though the bad is such a tiny, tiny percentage of law enforcement activities. And I think that... It's created a situation. I've talked to a police officer. I'm sure you have two. And usually, you know, becoming a police officer is a generational thing. Grandpa did it. Dad did it. I'm going to do it. And I talk to people who have said, I don't know if I want my kids to go into it or not. And a lot of it's because of sort of this relationship. with the public and sort of the lack of respect that law enforcement have been getting in the past few years. Do you think that's a real issue? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, okay, it used to be go to college a degree and get a great job. Now you go to college, you get a job, you can't even afford to buy a house. Most police officers make less. the average college graduate. And they're out there at times risking their lives and trying to help total strangers. So the old things that watch the movies, bang, bang, shoot them up, Clint Eastwood, whatever. That was cool back in the day. It's changed now. It's changed a lot. And it's changed the mindset. And younger people are going, do I really want to do this? They want to be, you know, spit on, shot at, dragging the court because I may have said something wrong because I'm human, excited utterance. So it's hard. And you're right, it's a generational thing. My grandson's on the job. But my son and my daughter are like, no thanks. We're good. So, again, it all depends on the generation, the way you're raised. in respect for the law enforcement or anywhere in public safety, fire department, EMS, whatever. Yeah. I think, you know, nights like National Night Out do a lot to improve public perception of policing. And that's why I like it so much. That's why I wanted to talk about it. I also think that it might help in the recruiting area because for a few years, you know, not too long ago, departments were... very concerned about recruiting the challenges of recruiting people into law enforcement. I feel like some of that is starting to turn the corner. Have you heard much about the recruiting challenges out there for law enforcement? It's actually getting better in cities or states that are more conservative. I was in Minnesota last month, and they're down 40% since George Floyd. And down...

140 officers. So a lot of departments are still struggling because people like, you know, Seattle, Portland, I can't be the police. You don't want to lock anybody up. And that's not going to get you, my arrests aren't going to get you out of all your problems. Community policing like this does. But some of the departments are getting better and actually have wait lists, but most of them are just dying to get one or two officers. So, yeah, the dynamic has changed and slowly, but surely. We went through a real rough time, but. Unfortunately, we brought on ourselves law enforcement. Yeah. Do they still have neighborhood watch groups? I used to like riding around with the neighborhood watch groups, and I really liked the, you know, relationships they had with police because the police, you know, they can't be everywhere. They need eyes and ears out in the community. They do, and it's mostly... seniors or homeowners that go out there and drive around. And it's not so much these young kids that want to, you know, I'm going to go out there and, you know, be a police. No, you're not. You're driving around with yellow white on your car. Just checking things out, making sure the neighborhood is good. And you're going to spot things in the neighborhood watch that the police officers might not get to because you're going to run to run. You say, hey, wait a minute. that house was vacant. How comes people in their house the front door missing? Something like that. Neighborhood Watch is very good because they know the community, whether it's businesses or residences. So I think neighborhood watches a great idea as well. You know, I think National Night Out is also nice because you have a chance to kind of just talk with law enforcement, you know, in a non-stressful environment. And I think they can share. tips and ideas of things that you can do to make your house and neighborhoods safer without spending a lot of money, just simple things that you might not know where you can kind of use this as an educational opportunity as well. Totally agree with you. Let me ask you something real quick. And this is a very safe thing, but no one does it. Where do you keep the key five for your car? In my pocket? Oh, at home, you mean? Oh, yeah. Like, is it on the counter right next to the door, right next to my garage that someone could probably grab? Yeah, people, and no one does this, you take upstairs to bed. If you hear something outside, you hit the alarm. Right. But no one does, including myself. But anything, it's so easy, and it costs a dime. You keep it next to your bed, hear some outside, hit the alarm, and it scares possibly it would be intruder away. So there's a non-stressful police safety tip. How's that? That's a great idea, right? You just hear something? You hit that alarm, boom, and they run away. That's a great idea. That's better than leaving it next to my door by the garage where someone can break it and take it. Yeah, I did. Can you believe that? That's wild. What idiot would come up with that idea? Put it there so they don't hurt you. Right, right. Leave in the car then, leaving the ignition. Leave the car keys on the front porch. Come on in, don't break the windows. Steve Dolly and the police chief that came over that side. I know. Steve Dole, retired Detroit Police Assistant Chief. Thanks for the advice, the big tip, and enjoy National Night Out. It's a really important celebration.

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