The Dale Jackson ShowAugust 4, 202616m

Everybody Hates Israel & Nobody Deserves Social Security — with Jacob Morrison - 8-4-26

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So, you know, based on our previous conversation, I was reminded of the idea that I have a Coinbase account. And that is apparently about crypto too. So I went logged in and it's like, yeah, we need your picture of your ID in your face. I'm like, hold on one second. Hold on. Hold on one second. Hold on. Hold on one second. Hold on. Am I? Am I being scammed right now? Is that what this is? No, they do that because people use it for nefarious purposes. That's why. Okay, okay. All right, all right. Let's move on for a little bit here. Let's get to Jacob Morris, and he joins us from the Valley Labor Report. He is with us every Tuesday around this time. I appreciate him coming on the program and talking with us. You know him, you hear him on this station 930 to 11. He is also a nationally syndicated big time radio guy, so we are very lucky to have him here with us, and I'm very excited to have him joining us. And thank you so much to Jacob for joining us. Jacob, quick question for you. How many Bitcoin do you own? None. Have you ever got into the Bitcoin space? I have not. No, I can't say that I have. It doesn't interest you at all, the disconnect of money from the government and instead relying on a bunch of fellow idiots and putting your full faith and credit in them? No, I can't say that it does. No. Okay. All right. All right. He says he's not buying it. All right. That's completely fine and reasonable. All right. Let's get serious here for a second then. Jacob, in Michigan right now, there is a race. And the race is between a left wing crank and some weird conglomeration of Hillary Clinton, Kamala Harris, and my mom, Haley Stevens. It's pretty obvious to me that the Abdul El-Sayed and the Democrat Socialist of America look like they're going to be spiking the football at the end of the day. Do you believe that? And is that a good thing for the Democrat Party and the movement on the left? You know, I don't know about spiking the football. I mean, he is not endorsed by the DSA. He's definitely on the more progressive wing, but, you know, I mean, he's not a socialist. But I do think that he's going to win, and I think that that, and I think that his winning will be good for Michigan. I mean, I think that, you know, the polls are a little bit mixed as far as what the general election is showing. I think that he has a better shot in the general than, you know, Haley, Israel comes to me in my dreams, Stevens. So.

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Yeah, no, I think that's true. I think that's what's winning him over. I mean, he's been very antagonistic to the people who support Israel. He's been very antagonistic to the traditional Democrat Party. He's been very antagonistic. But it is also pretty clear that, yeah, he's a DSA guy. The Hasan Piker of the world, they're completely on board. They are, it seems like. these people like Francesca Hong and Wisconsin and others, Zohran Mamdani, et cetera, that seems to be the future there. But then you have guys like James Carville. And James Carville is like, I'm leaving. Bill Mars says, I'm leaving all these people. You say that gives them a better chance to win in the general. If you lose all your base, is that true? Or if you lose your traditional base, is that true? Yeah, I mean, I don't know that Bill Maher is really the base of the party or the traditional base of the party. Traditional base. Traditional base. He is absolutely traditional base 100%. Yeah, I don't know about that. I mean, I think the traditional base of the party would be, you know, especially what Democrats would like to think of as the traditional base of their party is. you know, manufacturing workers and auto workers and the United Auto Workers have endorsed Abdul El-Sayed Ed. Okay. So what do you make? How do I put this then in a way that you'll at least accept the premise of the question? All right. So what about the establishment portion? of the Democrat Party says, yeah, this isn't for us. Forget about John Fetterman. He's a lost cause. But Bill Maher's not a lost cause. What's his name? James Carmel. Also, I mean, Bill Maher, you know, I mean, Bill Mar, he likes to be inflammatory. But I mean, his thing was specifically like, oh, well, you know, if everybody's a communist, then my votes up for grabs. And again, Sayette is not, you know, he's not a socialist. He's not, he's not a communist. He is, you know, he's. And he's very, very much squarely in the FDR New Deal, you know, liberal tradition. I mean, that's, you know, he's not offering, you know, he's not saying that workers should own the means of production. He's not, you know, saying anything like that. And he's not even really saying anything crazy on Israel. He's making more than anything else. And America first case about Israel and Palestine. And so, you know, I think that, you know, after the primary. most quote unquote establishment moderate folks get behind el-sayette in the same way that you know i think that that most progressive people would would back would back stevens but but i think that stephen's general election appeals less than his wow okay all right i i i think it's interesting that we are now running away from the label socialist i mean why are they doing that Well, no, he has, he has never been a socialist. I mean, if you, you know, if, if you were to talk to. No, I see. I understand. He is, he has never said, I am a socialist. Like, that's true. Right. That, I mean, that, that's. And so if you talk about different, it's not, it's not running away. It's just like, you know.

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categorizing people, you know, as they kind of purport to be, you know, if you talk about, you talk about Zohran Mamdani, you talk about Hong, you talk about Hasan Piker, you know, these people are people that, that self-identify a socialist. And so, you know, I'm not, I'm not going to push back against you calling them socialists and they're not, they wouldn't. And so why would I? But, but Syed is, you know, he does. And so. And he always had. Okay. All right. So we're going to do that. It's going to be interesting to see if this world of left wing radical, can I call the left wing radical? Is that fair? Would he consider himself to be that? I mean, you know, I don't think he would push back on that much. But I mean, I think that I do think that it's squarely in, you know, a New Deal tradition of FDR-style liberalism, FDR-style American liberalism. Thomas Payne, FDR, you know, I mean, it's not a, it's not anything foreign what El-Sayed is kind of representing in the American context. How important is the Israel side of this? I didn't bring it up. You brought it up multiple times. So clearly you feel is pretty important. And this is a big part of his appeal. Is that an online issue or is that a real world issue? I think it's both because, you know, I mean, Stevens is, you know, even more than him, made it a big part of her campaign. And that's where a lot of her support is coming from. And I think that a lot of people in Michigan, I think on the right and the left are, you know, not happy with at the very least, the very minimal case, which is kind of what Abdul El-Sayed is making, is that we're spending too much money. on this country, not enough on people in America. And then, you know, you can go a little bit above that. Again, I think at the very least, and say that, you know, the way that the country is acting with our money is objectionable. And so, you know, sending them money to do objectionable things is, I think has soured the public. Should they be allowed to have a golden dome?

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I think they already have an iron dome. Sorry, that's what I meant iron domes. But I mean, if it's their money, you know, I mean, they can do what they want with their money. So you literally object to the idea that we give them a, give them support to buy an iron dome. Like they shouldn't have it. Like the idea that they have a shield against all the rockets that come in, that's objectionable. I think at this point a lot of people believe that, yeah, because of kind of how they have acted in the last few years in particular. They've not shown themselves to be good stewards of the land. They're being bombed by terrorists from all sides, and the Iron Dome is solely a defensive piece of technology. And that should not exist. That should not be, we should not assist them. Well, I mean, are we going to give, are we going to go around giving iron domes to every country? I mean, do we get an iron dome to Iran or Palestine or? No, we're not going to give, we're not going to give iron domes to our enemies. But, but we have significantly assisted places like Ukraine against Russia and their defense. Well, I also don't think that Ukraine has, you know, been doing as many objectionable things. And, you know, particularly in the minds of, you know, in the minds of... They're literally bombing Russian civilian infrastructure. I'm not disagreeing with it. I just think that they absolutely are bombing Russian civilian infrastructure that they absolutely are doing it intentionally. But that's exactly what they're doing. They're doing the exact same thing. What's the difference between the two? I mean, you're telling me that you think that the impact and the intent of Israel and Ukraine of Palestine and Russia is comparable. Well, I'm saying we're spending money on both of them, and both of them hit civilian infrastructure as a policy. I mean, that's part of it. Yes, the, well, the Israelis on a far lesser note because they're going after people who are hiding amongst the civilians, but the Ukrainians are literally hitting. civilian infrastructure inside of Russia. And again, as a strategy of war, I'm not even criticizing. I'm just looking at it from the perspective of we can't give the Israelis even defensive technology. But we can give Ukrainians offensive technology. And I would think the threat of Russia to the world is significantly greater by continuing to fund the people blowing up their civilians and their infrastructure than a bunch of people in third world barbarians whose reach is somewhat minimal, especially now that Iran has been neutered in the way that it has.

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I mean, I'll just ask, so I think that we're agreed that the impact and the intent has been different, right? No, how so? I'm talking about defensive strategy alone. The Ukrainians are absolutely offensive on the offensive. And the Israelis have said numerous times, if you guys would just live here and stop bombing us, we will dial back. They made it very clear. A lot of it was defensive up until very recently, and that was because of the slaughter of 1,200 of their people, including Americans, inside their homes. Okay, well, yeah, I mean, I just, you know, again, foreign policy is not my thing. I kind of, I have, I have sort of vibes about these things, and I think that my vibes are pretty well represented, you know, that the Israeli government is, you know, a much worse offender if we're talking about objectionable behavior during war with respect to the Palestinians. Okay. That's interesting theory. Okay, last thing. Said is more electable in the general election than Haley Stevens. Is that what you think? I think so, yeah. Okay. A last question here. Social Security, not a scam or a scam? Who's right? Tommy Tuberville or Doug Jay Jones. Yeah, I mean, Doug Jay Jones is obviously correct. And it's kind of surprising that Tommy Tuberville wants to make this fight for no reason, especially when, you know, there's absolutely zero chance that what he wants to do to privatize Social Security to make it insolvent more quickly, you know, that's not happening while he's in the Senate. So it's kind of surprising that he wants to. to make the fight. But, yeah, I mean, if his proposal went through, it would be very, very bad for working people in Alabama and across the country. Very interesting. All right. So, but do we agree that it's insolvent by 2032 as it currently is constituted? Yeah, I mean, insolvent insofar as, you know, there's not going to be any more like extra money in the trust fund. And there would need to be like a 15 to 20 percent cut to payouts. But it would continue to be paid out. And that's only because, you know, I think that a lot of people don't know this. You don't pay any more money into Social Security after your like $170,000. Yeah, $184,000. And so, you know, if we just raise the cap or eliminate the cap, if Elon Musk paid as much into Social Security as the listener did or I did, then it would be solvent for 100 years.

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I think Elon Musk Bucks has paid far more into Social Security than most people listening to this program. I doubt it, actually. I bet, no, I think my mom has probably put as or has put more money into Social Security specifically than Elon Musk. Your mom's been paying the maximum security amount for how long? She's been very close to the maximum amount for her, for a lot of her career. And she's about to retire in the next 10 years. All right. I look at guys like Tommy Tuberville. This guy's crazy. Right? And that's crazy, Dale. My mother has paid more money into Social Security than a trillionaire. Hold on. That's nuts. On that one particular thing, because they're capped on how much they can take out and how much they'd get back. Right. And we shouldn't. Yeah. We shouldn't. It's not supposed to be a never-ending source of money. What it was supposed to be is you paying into your own retirement and getting it back. No, that's what. That's not. Hold on. I got it. You're not listening. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. And the way, that's how it was sold. But what it actually is is the people now pay for the people. The people who are working now pay for the people now. The people that are working next pay for us and so on and so forth. Well, the math doesn't math on that. And that's where the problem comes to lie. And as for your idea that let's just raise the tax, fine. Make the argument. Get it done. I don't see any problem with that. Jacob Morrison, thank you very much. Valley Labor Report. Appreciate him being here and talking with us. We've got to let him go. Thank you very much for him to join us on the Alabama A&M $350 million Bulldog Hotline. We'll be right back. Stay tuned. This is The Dale Jackson Show. The U.S. Soccer Podcast. These players are battered and exhausted, but you don't hurt like this if you don't care about this team, about this country, about this game. I think you can feel the intensity, the goals, the energy that, wow, look at us. Here in the U.S., I have got some news for you. There's so much more to come. My name is Megan Klingberg, and we're just getting started. The U.S. Soccer Podcast, presented by Henkel. Follow and listen on your favorite platform. form. Start your day with the morning jolt of Drake C. Toll. See, now it's on demand. My podcast is kind of a radio thing, I think, but also it's a bit of a TV show, and it's about whatever I want it to be. It's listening live as it happened, when it happened, with the instant reaction. You're home for talking sports. We go back, the Great Toll Show, Westwood One Sports Network, and there will be on demand on your radio. Anywhere in the country, I'll see you there. Westwood One Sports Talk, your home for Drake C. Toll. Follow and listen on your favorite platform.

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