The Mark Arum Show 08-03-26 HR 2

Welcome back to the show and a good Monday morning to you. Mark Aram here, you there. It's 10.04, four minutes after 10 o'clock. This is the Mark Aram show live Monday through Friday 9 and a noon on 955. WSB playing a man down today. Just the core three. Gracie Award winning Deborah, executive producer of the program. Vinny Drip. On the other side of the takeout window and screening your calls coming up in 30 minutes. Eric Erickson, fresh back from vacation, joins us live talking all things politics. And at 1137, Deborah's got a pair of tickets to see the PGA Tour Championship at East Lake Country Club. I am very jealous of whoever gets those tickets coming up at 1137. Still to come, we've got an update on the reflecting pool story. We're going to check the future of the Todd Blanche nomination, but we did get a confirmation. from a nomination. Joining us from News Nation live on the Mark Am Show, it's Marcus Espinoza. Marcus, good morning. As always, appreciate your time. Good morning to you. Absolutely. Happy to be here. How are you? I'm glad we have confirmation to replace Tulsi Gabbard. Who is replacing her and how did the process go? Yeah, so Jay Clayton is now officially assuming office now as Director of National Intelligence. So it's a role that I don't think much of the general public is aware of, but technically the role is this person oversees all the intelligence agencies and tries to basically get them to work better together with sharing intelligence. This came about after September 11th and terrorists there where other agencies were. basically not sharing information with each other and certainly did not help prevent what happened that day. So this is a little background on that position. So Jay Clayton takes over. He's a former SEC chairman, most recently served as the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York. And now he's being tapped with leading this agency. I got confirmed through the Senate, basically, not basically, actually along party lines. You know, so something that you would expect there. In the meantime, before that, Bill Pulte was still there as an acting director, there Bill Pulte. He caused some controversy with his own stuff. So if you want to get into that, we can. But Jay Clayton now steps in. Let me start with that because Bill Pulte was in there. And basically, he was tasked with finning the herd, if you will, from the intelligence agency. So is Jay Clayton inheriting an overview of a less effective or at least less manpower when it comes to our intelligence agency? Significantly. He's getting a gutted... office, basically, because Bill Pulte went in there and really significantly did staff reductions. He also helped declassify documents related to the president's false claims of the 2020 election fraud. So he came in and he did a lot of rearranging or, I guess, removing people. And now you have Jay Clayton stepping in, really at a diminished role, I guess you'd say, as far as...

the significance of that role overall. I think it's diminished quite a bit, especially after what his acting director did in place of him there with the staff reduction. So he's going to have to do a lot with a lot less compared to what Tulsi Gabbard was working with and previous. directors. Marcus Espinoza from News Nation, joining us live on the Mark Air show. You mentioned the vote went along party lines. A couple of quick follow-ups on that. Do we know how John Fetterman, the Democrat, voted, and the lack of vote from Mitch McConnell, did that impact the confirmation at all? You know, let me go ahead and look that up real quick because John Fetterman's so interesting on everything right now and within his own party. He's even said he feels like a pariah because of his votes, but he did vote no on the nomination. Interesting. Okay. Yeah, but so. Isn't he the most interesting figure in politics right now? Absolutely. And what made it even more interesting, and I'm sure you saw Marcus, dude was in a suit and tie last week. I was like, what is going on with this guy? It was incredible to see him up there because here's what's interesting. I was working local news in Philly when he was running for that seat. And he seemed like the longest of long shots. And then he wins that election. And then you see this. path that he goes on from basically, I think the whole change within his party from his point of view on Israel has really provoked him to speak out on things, but here he stays with party lines there and votes no. So it's really interesting that he appeared on Bill Maher as well, not in a suit, speaking about, you know, where his party's at right now, but not to go off on a tangent, I'm just so fascinated by John Fetterman and where he goes from here and in the future because... I think within his own party, people look at him. perhaps maybe with a little bit of a side eye. And I think on the other side, they want to try to bring him over. Yes. And maybe he becomes independent, maybe he stays. I don't know. But I think he's fascinating when it comes to what's going to happen the next two years. And I think Democrats might be in sort of a panic mode at this point because obviously Maine is huge. The Senate race here in Georgia is huge. If they want any chance to flip, they need to secure Maine and Georgia. But they also couldn't withstand if. Betterman throws his hands up and he says, you know what? I'm a Republican now.

And even just if he's an independent, right? Yeah. And even if he chooses just to go any route out of the party. And then you have, so the Democrats dealing with John Fetterman and his fearlessness of speaking out. And then also their progressive wing of the party with the elections going on in Michigan. And then so there's all kinds of, I think, turmoil with the Democratic Party on what sort of path they want to take. I think a lot of people maybe three months ago said, you know, there are a lot to do something for the midterms. But I think they're concerned within their own party as well. So they got a lot going on. Marcus, if you don't mind, I want to stay in the Senate for a quick second. I brought up Kentucky Senator Mitch McConnell. We've had two pictures of proof of life, but he's missed, I mean, 50 votes at this point. How long has he been out? And do we have a timetable of if and when he's going to come back to the Senate? No, nobody knows when. I think that's the frustrating part for everybody right now is that he's been so MIA and the pictures seem so perfectly orchestrated that I think it's causing more questions than answering people's concerns about where's Mitch, right? Where the heck is he? And I think... Something has to change at some point here because of the, you have the recent hospitalization. He's not giving any video statements because the picture is one thing, right? But not speaking out on video, the fact that, you know, we just had somebody recently pass as well that shocked. Everybody has, you know, and people are concerned about Mitch's health. You know, you just get all these questions right now. So nobody's able to answer that right now really well. And another big question going forward with the time. With Lindsey Graham. With, yes, that's fine. We know who you were talking about. You know, just going forward, will that vote be needed for a Todd Blanche confirmation? Or will the Senate Majority Leader be sure to vote when it comes when eventually we think Todd Blanche will be a vote for his confirmation? You wonder if they're trying to buy their time, I think, on it to try to get to the votes and try to have them because I think that's the concern for the Republican Party. We were talking about the Democrats. Now you have the Republican Party concerned over missing votes that are supposed to be locks, right? And then now you have that issue for them. So the big question right now, you know, grew up with the game where's Waldo, and right now it's where's niche. Yeah, exactly. Marcus Espinoza, News Nation. Great insight, as always, my friend. Have a great day. Appreciate you. Thanks, guys. There you go. All right. So Jay Clayton in, Todd Blanche still in limbo. We'll go back to D.C. a little bit later in the show. And, of course, we're going to talk to Eric Erickson about that when he joins us live after the news at 1030 here on the Mark Am show. We have some movement in the reflecting pool story. First, I want to refresh your memory. This is what Janine Piro had to say after the former Olympian was indicted for causing over $1,000 worth of vandalism to the pool. We can state and prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he caused damage, and that damage is over $1,000. With an expert, come to the trial. It has to be drained. We'll hear all that at the trial. Did he have any tools, or was it just his bare hands? Right now, we believe it's his bare hands, both hands. So does that indicate in your belief that it was probably damaged before, or do you believe that he had?

He damaged it. Further, but do you believe there had already been damaged before? He damaged the pool. Before he touched it. He damaged this pool. Well, good. I'm glad you've got that, Evans. Come on in the grand jury. You can testify. We all remember that press conference. Major moving in that story. Joining us from New York City from ABC News, Peter, a quick reversal in the now infamous reflecting pool. Where do things stand this morning? Yeah, really a dramatic reversal from the Department of Justice. This began a few weeks ago when we began to see these issues with a reflecting pool. We saw algae take over the pool itself. We saw the liner beginning to peel President Trump in the Department of Interior. We're very quick to blame all of this on vandals. And very quickly afterwards, later in June, we began to see allegations, arrests, and even in an indictment of David Hearn, a former Olympian, who they allege vandalized the pool, threatens him with 10 years in prison. He's consistently denied wrongdoing. pleaded not guilty. And what we saw on Friday from the Department of Justice was a complete reversal on their claims. In a motion to dismiss that case, they basically said that upon reviewing all the evidence in the case, specifically from the Department of Interior, they realized that they simply could not stand up those allegations that this was vandalism. Rather, they pointed to the contractor who was paid more than $14 million to do this renovation, basically saying that they botched this installation to get it done in time for July 4th. the grand jury indictment, we had strong words from Janine Piro, you know, see you in court, basically. Like, they were pretty dead set that this was going to go to trial. And now the DOJ says, well, nope, not going to happen. But we've heard different from President Trump and from Doug Burgum. Yeah, that's right. President Trump was quick to criticize this decision on Saturday, writing on social media that he 100% disagrees with Janine Piro, that he thinks this was a quote, pure case of vandalism. Doug Burgum also posted on social media to push. back on this allegation that the Department of Interior withheld evidence. He continued to claim that it was vandals who were responsible for this. And in a way, it's worth going back to Janine Piro's statements when they first brought this case because they were forceful. She said that she had, quote, tremendous evidence that her committed a felony. highlighting that he faces the possibility of 10 years in prison of convicted, basically saying that he, quote, forcefully and violently removed this liner from the reflecting pool. When you actually look at the evidence, though, included in Gene Piro's filing from Friday, it becomes clear that, yes, there were eyewitnesses who saw him touching the water of the reflecting pool, but there was nothing to prove that he was. forcefully vandalizing it. There was no video evidence as allegedly claimed to back up all these claims. And at this point, David Hernd's lawyers are threatening possible litigation if these false claims about their client continue to happen from the president from the Department of the Interior. Peter Haramboos from ABC joining us here on the Mark Am show. I guess I have to ask, do we know what evidence was produced to get that grand jury indictment if they're now saying there is no evidence? We haven't seen the grand jury testimony yet from the case against Herne, but it will be very interesting to see. It's fully likely that Herne's lawyers make a push to review that evidence if they haven't gotten it already over the course of discovery. And the actual filing from Janine Piro, where she basically used, you know, used, and the word Bosch was actually used by her office. That isn't an exaggeration. Included multiple emails where apparently the Department of Interior was aware of issues as early as the first week of June.

But basically they knew that these issues were a problem, that they were the main reason why this liner was failing. And they continued, however, to make these false claims of vandalism. The DOJ really brought their receipts. They included emails. They included photos in their actual filing and their motion to dismiss to back up all of these claims. Whereas we haven't really seen anything from Trump or Bergam to back up this allegation that this was vandalism. Certainly no video showing someone as the president has claimed who took a knife to make a 300. foot gash in the reflecting pool. Really no evidence thus far of that itself. That being said, Peter, what's the status with the reflecting pool right now? At this point, the reflecting pool is drained. There are repairs being done by the company who was the original contractor on this. It really remains to be seen if those repairs will actually do the trick in terms of fixing some of the issues. The reflecting pool itself has had chronic issues for decades at this point. President Obama, for example, poured millions of dollars into the reflecting pool unsuccessfully, and that did not fix the fact that algae is a problem, that it leaks millions of gallons of water each year. And it doesn't seem like this $14 million repair is going to substantively fix those either. So we'll see if this continues to be one of President Trump's projects, or if he drops it to the side and focuses on other things, like Dallas Airport, for example, which should have had last week. Yeah, so a couple of things we're going to follow what David Hearn might do through the legal system. and what President Trump might do to pressure the DOJ to maybe, you know, find other vandals responsible for the reflecting pool problems. Peter, great insight, as always. Have a great day, my friend. Thanks so much. Three quarters of a cup of butter, 12 ounces of bittersweet chocolate. You want green brownies? Yes. He wants green brownies. That's Martha and Snoop, right, making green brownies. Welcome back to the Mark Aram Show at 1024. Martha Stewart turns 85 years old today. What do you think Martha Stewart's net worth is, Deborah? Martha Stewart. She went to jail inside her trading, all that. Yeah, she does a bunch of endorsements still. I don't know, 22. $400 million. Wow. But that's a dip. She dropped because in 1999, when Martha Stewart online living went public, she became, I didn't know this, the first self-made female billionaire in the U.S. And then the masculinity threw her in jail. Yeah, everyone got mad. She's a beautiful, classy lady. Yeah. Have you ever, well, I was going to say, have you done any of her recipes? They're really good. I have not done any of her recipes. I'm sure Maya has. She owns a big property in Seal Harbor, Maine. So I don't know, her marital status or if she has kids, but if you want to leave me that main estate, I did something, and it's not really Martha Stewart-related, first time in, I don't know, 10 years, I put conditioner in my hair this morning.

Does it look different? Well, you usually have a hat on. Yeah, it looks different. Does it? But it felt like just so coarse recently. I was like, so I went to the guest bedroom. We have Maya is about a conditioner for the guest. And it took me, I've forgotten how long it takes the conditioner to rinse out of your head, out of your hair. You put too much in then. Probably. But it feels it's soft and silky. It's supposed to be. I'm going to say it looks flowing. Yeah, flowy. Flowy. All right, so I've taken care of the top of my dome. I need to take care of my innards, though. And apparently, Deborah, there is a prevention for tummy issues, especially of the explosive variety, which has been in the news with the cyprospores. Oh, yeah, the cyclospor. Right. Well, if you have issues with having to go to the bathroom, doctors are saying, you know, regular yoga can actually help out with any type of digestive issues that you have. The fact that you're moving your body. In a certain way, certain poses could kind of help the way your bowels are. I actually believe that. Yeah. Because if I'm feeling. Plugged. Just uncomfortable. If I get up and stretch and crack my back, like, I feel better. Yeah, it moves everything in your body. I totally buy that. I don't know if I'm going to, like, join a yoga. Club? Are they clubs? What is it? Like yoga classes? Yeah. Yeah. Well, you don't even have to do that. There are just some basic poses. If you go online and look for like the most simple poses that you can do, they wouldn't be all weird in stretch or anything. That even that can help doing like first thing in the morning. I totally buy that yoga can help your intestinal. Because if I get up and I stretch like my torso and crack my back, it's like, oh, all right, I just bought myself no time. That's a little hack from a pro radio host. Speaking of professional radio host, he is back from vacation. Eric Erickson's going to join us live after news, weather, and traffic so much to discuss with Eric about politics from Georgia to D.C. and everywhere in between. Social media is active through the broadcast at Mark Airman at WSB Radio.

I heard there was a secret code that David played and it pleased the Lord, but you don't really care from you. 1037 on the Mark Aram Show and all of North Georgia singing, hallelujah, because Eric Erickson is back from vacation. He joins us live on the Mark Aram show. Eric. Goodness gracious, man. You're trying to put me back to sleep. I'm not your boss, but two days max. That's it. We can't, listen, it's an election year. You're a valued voice of reason. Two day max for vacation until the November elections. Yeah, you know, I got to figure out a way. I keep telling them, you know, even like at midnight, just give me like one more hour to cover all the Georgia stuff that I can't cover on the Nashville. There's so much going on. I'll tell you what, you can take over, I'll get off at 11. You can start an hour earlier, as long as my pay is it affected. All seriousness, welcome back, brother. So much to talk about. First, this is a very generic question, but I just want to start in Georgia because, you know, local matters more than anything to all the listeners. Are you hearing anything about the big races here in Georgia for the Senate and the governor? Yeah, listen, D.C. Republicans are just kind of very frustrated with the Georgia Senate situation. You talk to pretty much any Republican in Washington. They don't think that Mike Collins is going to be able to pull it off. I actually had a piece in the AJC last week about ticket splitting. Georgia and Maine are the two states still where people like to split their ticket, and the presumption is that Rick Jackson is going to win. When you look at historic polling, go back to Nathan Deal's races, Brian Kemp's first race against Stacey Abrams. Not a surprise the Democrat is slightly ahead right now. There's still consolidation to happen on the Republican side. Bert Jay Jones' supporters kind of sitting it out right now. They'll come back to Rick Jackson. The problem is that you've got suburban voters in the metro Atlanta area. who simply like Jon Ossoff, and they don't particularly like Mike Collins, who went all in on MAGA and can't really make the case to people who aren't Trump supporters that they should vote for him. Yeah, and with the recent polling we've seen of the president, maybe being too close to the president might hurt you when it comes to the general election. So hang ringing for Republicans when it comes to the Senate race, but I would imagine a lot of hand-wringing from Democrats in the governor's race. Yeah, very much so. Listen, Democrats now... went to bat for Keisha and Democrats locally are like, no, surely there's someone better. And she swept the field. And.

The problem that the Democrats have and they know they have is when you look at the Democratic primary, the further away from Atlanta, Keisha Lance Bottoms was on the ballot, the better she did proportionally. And she underperformed in Atlanta. And that's not a good sign for November, particularly when you do have to win suburban Gwinnett and Cobb, North Fulton. You've got to get those independent white voters who aren't Republicans, but they're not Democrats to come vote for you. And who are they going to vote for? made man or the woman who let Atlanta burn down. While you were gone, there's a lot to talk about in the Todd Blanche story. He came out today and said he will write a letter saying the anti-weaponization fund is kaput. It's dead. It's not going to happen. President Trump over the weekend was like, no, I want this to happen. Any insight of what the actual end game is here? Okay, so this is a problem for the president because he wants to get Todd Blanche confirmed. He said he would pull Todd Blanche until after the election. The problem is that that turns into a campaign issue for the Democrats over this anti-weaponization fund. The Republicans, their dynamic behind the scenes is we're going to lose the House. We might lose the Senate. So let Todd Blanche get in there and make this promise. And the president will have held to pay after November if he decides to do this weaponization fund. So John Cornyn wanted a win on this. The president, he felt like betrayed him by supporting Ken Paxton. He got what he wanted, a written statement that this fund is now dead. And if the president tries to revive it, there's going to be a fight on the president's hands with the Senate. But is that letter legally binding? No, but the issue is that there's a deal structured with the president's legal team. And by structuring with the president's legal team, they essentially can make the case that... The Justice Department has decided to change the settlement deal with the president. Now, the president can go back to it, of course, but it's going to cause him all sorts of problems. And behind the scenes, Republicans in D.C. are like, Mr. President, this is not a fight to pick right now. When there have been all sorts of stories about your family's dealings, you're starting to make your kids look like Hunter Biden. I think your read is basically online with mine because on Friday you heard from the president, well, I'm just going to put this nomination in my pocket till after John Thune and John Cornyn or out or I'm sorry, John Cornyn and who is the other no vote on? Yeah, Thom Tillis. Thom Tillis, yeah. And I'll just bring it up after the election. And then there was a reversal. I'm like, does that indicate like, oh. They're not very confident that they're going to still hold the Senate after the November elections. There are concerns. Look, they're behind in Texas. And before anybody says, but it's Texas, Alabama's more Republican than Texas. And Alabama went with Doug Jay Jones over a scandal-plagued judge that people thought there was no way he could lose. There are real concerns among Republicans in Texas about what they're seeing. The major Republican donors are not giving to Ken Fax and he's struggling to raise money. You've got to Ohio shared brown.

is a well-known figure trying to get back in the Senate. They're going to lose North Carolina. The Republicans do not have a good pick in Michael Whatley there. They may flip Michigan. And bizarrely, Susan Collins is probably going to win now that she's running not against a Nazi, but a man who has two kids with his cousin. Yeah, unbelievable. Candidates matter at the end of the day. Speaking of scandals, I don't even know how much time, if any, you want to devote to this. Max Miller, Bernie Moreno. in-law, like, what the hell is going on there? Look, Max Miller needs to step aside as does Cory Mills in Florida, who's more scandal-plugned than Max Miller? I mean, let's forget the current drama with Max Miller and say this is bad blood with your in-laws, although, as Bernie Moreno said, he couldn't say anything ahead of time because they were working on a settlement to deal with his grandkids, so he didn't want to say anything. But Max Miller's former girlfriend came out before this was even a thing and said he beat her up or was abusive to her, I guess. was abusive. And I mean, so now the ex-wife says he was abusive to me. The ex-girlfriend says he was abusive to her. Good luck, Max Miller. He's running where? Exactly. He's running in a swing district in Ohio. In Ohio. This is a must-win district for the Republicans. And Miller needs to get out. Cory Mills and Florida is on the ballot in his primary. He's been, there's been allegations of a cover-up protecting him, revenge porn allegations, abusive allegations there as well. I guess we're going to let the primary voters do this. But listen, the Democrats toss Graham Platner in Maine after he was the nominee. I don't know why the Republicans aren't doing this. The only thing I can come up with is. After August, the national press score is going to have a field day on Max Miller and Cory Mills if he gets reelected. I mean, the precedent was set when Kamala Harris was just handed the nomination. I mean, it's not, you know, it's happened before. I don't know how much you disconnected on your vacation. You deserved all the rest and relaxation you get. But did you see the blackmail possible story when it came to Bernie Moreno? And is, is there any teeth to that? There have been multiple allegations against Bernie Moreno over the years of some indiscreet stuff. It has been thoroughly dismissed. I will tell you when he was running for Senate that was a story and the current vice president texted me and said, please don't amplify the story. It's not true. And this race is close. And people have been raising the story for a while. Well, that's why I didn't bring up the The story behind the attempt. That's why I, because let me, let me vet it through you before. I just saw that it popped up. Finally, you have the sources, like the vice president texting you. Any idea just between you and me, what the hell's going on with Mitch McConnell's health? Yeah, it's not good. So he's, he is not dead, contrary to rumors. It's taking him recovery time. He. Had that concussion when he fell in his head hit marble flooring in Washington, D.C. And the fallout has continued from this. He's in his 80s. Last term, he is in physical therapy in a hospital. The problem is his dizziness. And they're trying to figure out what's going on with the dizziness for him to be able to go to the hospital and get back to work. So he's still engaged. He's still in phone calls. He is making phone calls to people. But he can't leave the hospital.

Is Todd Blanche going to need his vote at the end of the day or no? No, he's not going to need his vote. Okay. He'll get the votes now that he's got court in until Tullified, he'll be able to get the nomination. Hey, Eric. Glad to be back with you. Hallelujah. We're all singing it. We're all singing it. Eric Erickson back from vacation, fully charged noon to three across these fooded planes. Glad you're back, buddy. We certainly missed you. Thanks, ma'am. There you go. Any excuse to play this song, too, but this is Jeff Buckley. Hallelujah. Yeah, this is Jeff Buckley's version. 1052 on the Mark Aram show, Dow's up 580, NASDAQ's up 430 and oil's down 6%. That must mean the Strait of Hermuz is wide open for business. Is it or is it not? Joining us live covering the Iran War from Bloomberg News, Michelle Jamrisco. Michelle, good morning. Thanks for your time. Good morning, Mark. Thank you for having me. I would imagine we are getting rosy headlines out of the media with the stocks going up and gas prices and oil prices going down. Well, we do have to caution that, you know, we've been down this road many, many times before. Even over on the weekend, this whiplash seemed quite familiar in terms of expecting potentially a major strike on Iran. And then the president walking that back, saying that negotiations are underway. And those negotiations, by the way, are not with the U.S. at this point, but between Iran and Oman. on the subject that you mentioned, Hormuz and its potential reopening. And we're just kind of in wait and see mode at this point to see how the talks are going. And if something might actually come to fruition or if we'll be back. you know, seeing oil rise again once we return to some more kinetic action. Yeah, I mean, post-Camp David meeting with the cabinet, we had strong words. We were expecting a pretty violent attack. The president and the administration backed up on that to allow some room to breathe for negotiations. But Iran hasn't confirmed that. Is this just a way to, you know, ease economic pressures and just stop the military activity for a few days? Well, it's a very good question and one that we're always asking. I think a few things to keep in mind, one that we have a president who's famously unpredictable and likes to be unpredictable to kind of not allow Iran or others to kind of predict what his next action might be. He wants to retain that leverage. And I think there's also some various factions within the administration. some that are pushing more for a return to diplomatic pressure and diplomatic talks to leave some room for the possibility of an agreement eventually. And then others who are pushing more of a hard line and more insistent that we need to – U.S. needs to return to strikes on Iran to see if they capitulate, which has not happened yet. Neither has the diplomatic route. So, you know, the U.S. remains in sort of this –

stalemate, so to speak, with Iran. But the real urgency, as you mentioned, is that Hormuz reopening. And can we get eventually some more ships in and out, safe passage, assured safe passage that will give relief not just to markets, but to energy consumers everywhere, including Americans at home who are still seeing high prices of the pump? I'm not well versed enough in the oil industry to comment on this or to explain this. I don't know if that is in your purview either. But when I see such dramatic drops and rises of the oil prices, depending on whether there's fighting or not, I mean, I would be bearish long term until we get at a deal. I can't explain as a layman why we see such big drops in oil prices when there's been no fighting for 36 hours. Yeah, well, I mean, you could argue, and I'm not a market expert, so to speak, but even the market experts are kind of confounded on some days, especially during this war. I would just say, you know, yeah, we have seen great volatility and not just based on what's happening in Hormuz, but what might be happening elsewhere. certain suppliers finding other other alternatives. But there could be some, to get to your point, there could be some sense of sort of wishcasting a lot of market participants wanting to believe that this time is for real that the diplomacy will work, that the talks will yield something and that, you know, we won't be returning to massive strikes. But until, you know, we see some further evidence, it's just very unclear and remains very unclear on both fronts. Buckle up, enjoy the ride, at least today. Markets are up, oils down. Michelle, Jim Risco, Bloomberg News, Michelle, always appreciate your time. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate being here. There you go. Yeah, good. I mean, I can't figure it out. Good. Luckily, I'm not paid to figure it out, Deborah. If that was my job, like Aram, you are now our oil industry analyst, I'd be pulling my hair out, my conditioned hair. By the way, I got, first time in 10 years I put a hair conditioner in my hair. And my buddies found that very amusing on the Piccadilly text line. Like, you just admitted that. It was the first time in over 10 years. I conditioned the locks on top of my dome. Sabrina's Guy, News Weather and Traffic 3. Come back hitting our top local story straight ahead on the Mark Abrams show.