RFK Jr. Destroys Dana Bash, Plus WNBA Drama Continues | 8.03.26 - The Grace Curley Show Hour 1

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who echo the company line and who don't risk anything to do it, by the way. Like, yeah, I guess you could say conservatives might not like them or maybe they'll boycott them or whatever. But you have a lot more to lose. I don't think anyone would argue with me. You have a lot more to lose. If you're Sophie Cunningham and you put your neck out for this, it seems like common sense. She's winning the PR battle. But you certainly become the target. of a lot of ire and you get kind of painted and she said this as some sort of hateful bigot for saying that you don't think women should have to compete against men or be in a locker room with biological men now all of a sudden we got coaches coming out against her coaches virtue signaling wearing t-shirts because now this is and again this is the easy thing to do This is really like you look at that coach. She's got that shirt on. Protect trans kids. And she's got a blazer. And you're like, oh, wow, you're scoring a lot of points tonight. You're scoring a lot of points. You have protected yourself against the mob. You've marked yourself safe against the mob of people who otherwise would be screaming at you. Hope it lasts. Oh, I hope it'll last, as Willie Wonk once said. I have a feeling it won't. I have a feeling someday down the line. You'll say something normal and they will turn. You know what? I saw this weekend, Jared. And I always say the alligator line, like the alligator might eat you. Might not eat you now, but it's going to eat you eventually. I think it was Winston Churchill. He probably said it in a much more eloquent way than I just did. But I saw that with Scott Galloway, who I guess is this podcaster, he's this liberal podcaster. I think he's a big deal, too. I've seen his face. When I saw his face on Twitter, I thought, I know that guy, but I don't really listen to him. But he was like a big Zohran Mamdani, or he's a big dem. He's a big dem. And he supports Democrats and, you know, Trump ad and all this stuff. And he was on with Kara Swisher, and the two of them are distraught over this piettaire tax and this database that Zohran Mamdani made. But Zohran Mamdani essentially made a database so that people could look up. the 1% or the rich people. and have access to their addresses. And they've tried to claim, the city has tried to claim, well, we always make these kind of databases. This stuff's always public record. But the way they made the database so easily searchable, it does feel like they want people to be able to track down these richy riches and hurt them or harass them or whatever. And the title, rich people who need to be eaten was kind of a giveaway that this was different. And you know what? It's not like we don't have examples of. These deranged lunatics punishing people who they think have too much. Anyone remember Luigi Mangione? I know. There's been a lot of news since then, but it's still kind of pertinent to the situation. So that's what's, that's what Ken Griffin, he makes that crazy video, Zohran Mamdani in front of Ken Griffin's house to say, we're going to tax the crap out of this guy. And there's like creepy music in the background, dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun. And so now all these rich people.

who told us how great all these ideas were when they thought it was just going to affect the regulars when they thought it was just going to affect the normies now they're actually on podcast being like this thing is a disaster and i saw somebody put it like this party that voted for leopards eating people's faces shocked when leopard eats their face. I thought, oh, I like that might, that actually might be better than the alligator. I like it so much. And we're going to get to Galloway. We're going to get to Sophie Cunningham. Again, I cannot give this woman enough credit because Taylor and I have talked about this before where if I was at a pinnacle of success. whether it be in sports, that would never happen. My dad can attest that was never going to be in the cards for me. But let's say I was in Hollywood, Jared, and I was still Grace Curley, grew up in a conservative house, but I hit it big, and I'm starring in movies with who's the young hunk right now? Jacob Allorty, and I'm making millions of dollars. I don't know. I don't know if I would pull like a Gina from the Disney. What was her name? Jared, Gina Carrano. Is her name? Carano, yeah. I don't know if I would do that and risk at all. I'm just being honest with you guys. You can get mad at me and say, oh, that's lame. I know myself enough that I might say, I don't want to risk this. You know, I have a nice life. I'm making millions. I don't think it's worth it. When people do that, though, when people say, no, I want to be able to put my head down at night and know that I stood up for something and know that I said what I believed. I give them so much credit because, yeah, it feels like common sense. It feels like five years ago. We all would have said the same thing. Of course, men should be competing against women. But now it's not. Now this is very different. Now this is stuff you have to be a scientist to say. You have to be a biologist to say these things, which is crazy. Speaking of scientists, the thing I actually wanted to start with today because it's never failed me so far. It has never failed me. When I think about how do I start the show, Dana Bash getting her ass handed to her is, that's something that's 10 out of 10. That's going to work every single time. It has a 100% effective rate to it. So let's talk about what happened here. Robert F. Kennedy Jr.., HHS secretary, and crazy, you know, anti-VAC psychopath who's married to Cheryl Jim Himes and is going to destroy the world. He was on CNN with Dana Bash. And I find this amazing because she should not be on television, Dana Bash, for a multitude of reasons. She was texting Anthony Fauci. The fact that the network, that they're so shameless, they have no standards. I'm a Anthony Fauci groupie. That they have a woman on their network who now we know because of Dear Diary was texting Anthony Fauci about Jim Jordan and how he's a better man. You're a better man than Jim Jordan. Dear Dr. Anthony Fauci.

I was thinking about you all night. I saw that performance that you did. Man, all these people are really, really sad that on their, in their spare time. they're texting this 80-something year old doctor to be like, I love you. I just called. Hey, it's me. It's Dana. I just called to say, I love you. And so she's texting him. Oh, you're so much better than Jim Jordan. He's like, thank you very much, Dana. I appreciate it. And. Now she's interviewing Robert F. Kennedy Jr.. trying to shame him for being one of the only people to say this guy's a fraud. In fact, he wrote a book about it. And so she should be, first of all, saying to CNN, please don't make me face Robert F. Kennedy Jr.. I'm so embarrassed. I'm so embarrassed. I totally push this Anthony Fauci thing on everyone. I was texting on the side. I have no journalistic standards. I have no ethics. Please do not have me sit out there and try to have an interview this guy. He could bring it up. I could be even more embarrassed. I should be crawling into a shell and just like really trying to. redeem myself by staying away from the public eye for 10 years. Instead, she goes on there and she thinks she's going to lecture Robert F. Kennedy Jr.. about how little he knows. And they're still running. with this trust the experts thing. They're still running with this idea that we're not smart enough to understand the complexities that go into something like this. So we should all just sit there with our masks on and be quiet and listen to Dana Bash and her boyfriend Dr. Anthony Fauci and tell us how awesome everything is and tell us how great you are and tell us how much you know that we don't know. Can you guys tell I had a coffee this morning? I think I had to take a deep breath there. Give me a little taste. We'll run this to, Jared. We'll cover all of it. But this is Robert F. Kennedy Jr.. calling out Dana Bash this hack. And in case, in case, you're thinking, how much of a hack is she? She's not your typical hack. Okay? She's not your standard run-of-the-mill hack. She's a terrible hack. Like, she's, she deserves an award. You know how they give each other awards for making up fake stories like the Russia hoax? This woman deserves accolades of that nature because she's so bad. She's, and it's not just her, her better half is even more of a hack. Her husband, Jeremy Bash. Does that name sound familiar? He signed his name to the 51 intelligence agents or the intel community letter calling the Hunter Biden laptop misinformation, Russian disinformation. That was again something. And color me shocked on this.

Her husband, her hubby, signs on to this letter. And dear old wifey doesn't do a great job covering the story on Hunter Biden. Oh, boy. Now, Jared, I would never imply that her personal beliefs or her husband also being a deep state operative. I would never imply that that would affect her journalism. I would never, I would never suggest that that somehow seeped into the way she covered the story, which was in a pathetic way. It's a hell of a lot of journalism. Because I know that she's a journalist and she compartmentalizes and she doesn't let her husband's beliefs. It's like Dan Goldman and his wife. Hey, we keep things separate. We're able to have our own opinions. I'm sure her husband signing onto this letter, giving Hunter Biden to get out of jail free card, and therefore allowing his dad to also hold it up at the debate and say, the 51 people sign on to this, including Jeremy Bash. I'm sure none of that affected the way she covered the story. Because you know why? She's just that good. But here she is. No humble pie. No mea culpa. Fresh off the diary entries being revealed, she's going to lecture Robert F. Kennedy Jr.. You know what she should be doing with Robert F. Kennedy Jr.? She should be offering him a big, fat apology. I got it wrong. I'm sorry I'm so smug. I'm sorry I'm so bad at my job. But no, this is what she does instead. Give me cut six, please. Your job is telling the truth of the American people. I see my job as telling the truth. And the truth is that there is, is study after study after study. It's one of the most studied things out there in science. You're speaking it like a parrot. You're repeating it like a parrot. So are you. I've actually read the science. You don't want to come back here and debate the science. I'm not debating this. Of course you won't. No, because I'm not debating. All you know how to do is repeat things that people told you and say trust the experts. That's what you did during COVID. Now we know that Anthony Fauci, who was the expert, was lying about everything, about mass, about social distancing, about it. natural immunity about the transmission from the vaccine, about the source of COVID. He was lying and you were punishing people for not trusting the experts. And now you're rolling out the experts again to talk about something that you have no personal knowledge of. Okay. Well, guess what? That is my job to talk to people. Your job is to tell the truth for the American public. Yes. Yes. And my job is to get as much information as I can. I'm going to chime in here. I'm going to chime in here. I'm going to say this is a bad look for women. You know why, Jared? Because any woman out there who's honest with herself know she's been in this situation or you're in an argument with a guy. I've done it. I'm not ashamed to admit it. Been in an argument with a guy. And I know I'm losing the argument. So I just start throwing out stuff like, no, you are. Nuh. Very male and successful. No, no. That. And then what you do when you're really, when it's really not going well, and there's nowhere else to go. I'm surprised you didn't pull it out, crocodile tears. You're hurting my feelings. You're hurting my feelings. Stop! You're being me to me. He crushed her. He crushed her. And I'm not happy about that, by the way. I'm not happy to see a woman who's such an embarrassment on TV trying to pull the, I know I. I know you are, but what am I? That's the best you got? You ran these fake stories for two years.

You told us we weren't smart enough. We weren't educated enough. We couldn't chime in. We couldn't have criticism about Anthony Fauci. We couldn't ask questions. And you're being confronted with it. And your text messages and your wet kisses for this guy. And the best you can say is, well, that's my job. So your job. Finally, you say the truth. Your job is to be a partisan hack who runs cover for the deep state, runs cover for Dr. Anthony Fauci and tries to silent dissent. That is. is your job, Dana, for congratulations. For once in your pathetic career, you told the truth. Ain't that grand. We'll be right back. The conversation doesn't end when the show does. Subscribe now to the Howie Car Radio Network wherever you get your podcasts. And listen when it's convenient for you. This is the Grace Curley Show. Welcome back, everyone, to the Grace Curley Show. Let's do the poll question here. It's brought to you by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Carpet. Now is the time to clean or update your home with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Carpet. Visit their beautiful showrooms in Needham in Weymouth or call 1-88. 8, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.. Jared is on the board. Jared, what is the poll question and what are the results thus far? Today's poll question, which you can vote in at grace curly show.com. Are you following the Lindsay Clancy trial? I am. And one of the things I noticed when I talk to other females about this is a lot of women bring it up to me. And then they say, I can't really follow it. It's too dark. But I can't stay away from it either. And that's something that... I get. I get it. It's really hard to watch. I think there's a reason that the judge didn't make that 911 call public. And I don't think it was just for Peter Clancy's sake, the father. I think it was also to not put people through, you know, emotional distress of something that they don't need to hear. But I have been following it. I won't say I'm... I'm every day for my job. I don't think if this was, if this was not my job, Jared, I don't think I'd be consuming this stuff every day. Yeah, 2% of the audience say that they are following it every day. 19% are checking in on major developments. 18% have only seen the headlines. And 61% say no, they're not really following the trial. Yeah, I think that the longer that goes on, we're going to hear from some medical experts. And that part of it will be. very interesting to see how much culpability the jurors think that the medical community has. And, you know, this woman was on a number of different prescriptions. And whether or not that contributed is, I don't even think it's a question. I think that when you're on that many medications and you're experiencing postpartum, it's it can oftentimes lead to a dangerous. situation like that. Here's what I will say. We've had Nate Eaton on quite a bit on this. He's great. He's either inside the courtroom or his producer is there. I'm going to try to get him on again today just to keep us abreast of what's happening. When we come back, though, we're going to talk to Libby Emmons about a few different stories. I want to talk about DSA. We've got this race in Michigan, this primary coming up tomorrow, which is going to be, I think, a bellwether for a lot of other races in the country. We're also going to keep talking about Robert F. Kennedy Jr.. And Sophie Cunningham versus a lot of

women in the WNBA. What else is new? We'll talk about that with Libby Emmons from the post-millennial when we come back. The Grace Curley Show is on the air. Welcome back, everyone, to the Grace Curley Show. Joining me now to discuss quite a few different topics is Libby Emmons from the post-millennial. And I want to start Libby with some more of these sound cuts from Robert F. Kennedy Jr.., the HHS secretary, who was on with Dana Bash. And call me crazy. I understand that none of these people in the media have any shame. But this is a woman who was mentioned in... Anthony Fauci's diaries because she was side texting him about how awesome he is and how much, you know, her and her friends hate Jim Jordan. And now she's on here. And instead of eating even a little bit of humble pie, she's trying to wag her finger at Robert F. Kennedy Jr.. who actually did have criticisms of Dr. Anthony Fauci and had a healthy skepticism towards what he was saying. So much so that he wrote a book about it. I mean, where? How do these people, where do they get off still being so condescending and smug when they were wrong about everything? Yeah, isn't it amazing? It's truly amazing how condescending and smug they can be. And even after we had the Senate hearings last week with Anthony Fauci, who, of course, could not be bothered to answer any questions, pleading the fifth despite having an actual pardon. We saw what the Republican congressman revealed in terms of his ethical violations, what he knew when. We saw the diaries come out from. Senator Rand Paul, which were truly stunning to see his obsession with his own fame and his own celeb sightings and the mob that chased him down for picks at the, you know, Lincoln Memorial and all the rest of it. And yeah, none of these people are going to come out and apologize, not Dana Bash, not anyone else. None of them are going to admit that they let us down a false path. They censored us. They got people fired. They got people's businesses closed. They cost our kids so much educational time, you know, from first grade, kindergarten, straight up through college. What they did to this country is insane, and they still think it's justified. And they'd still put on five dozen masks tomorrow if Anthony Fauci told them to. Yeah, and one of the things that really pisses me off, I'm so glad you just listed all of those things and all of the damage that these people have brought. But one of the things that drives me crazy is when I'm being told, well, people make mistakes and not everybody knew everything at the same time. And, you know, it's important that if somebody made a mistake and they misjudged it, that you forgive them.

And I'm sitting here going, forgive them. Nobody's saying they're sorry. Like, how about if you want forgiveness from me? You start with admitting that you're wrong. That's not what's happening here. Libby, I want your reaction to this cut. Jared, can I have cut seven, please? This is Robert F. Kennedy Jr.. handing Dana Bash her ass back to her with how amazing he was. He just wiped the floor with her. Take a listen to cut seven. We need to protect our constitutional rights. That that is the primary obligation of our country. Well, during COVID, we completely dismantled our constitutional rights. We began censoring people in violation. But you're saying what not to do. I'm asking what to do. But I want to talk about. Well, that's something to do. That is the number one priority. We protect the Constitution. The Constitution was written. Forgive me, but you're just, you're talking about rights, and I'm asking about a potential public health crisis. That is coming. But I do want to, let's. And one of the mistakes we made in the last time was suppressing those rights so people weren't being heard. Doctors who are saying you're doing it wrong for being marginalized and vilified. Yeah. Because, because, again, I really want to move on. She really wants to move on. Oh, yeah, I bet she does. I bet she wants to move on. Libby, the way she's talking to him, the way she's talking to him, like he is some moron who she's just, you know, she's being very nice to let him sit there while she's going to explain to him what people actually want to hear and what we should actually talk about. This woman is a hacks hack. She should be embarrassed. She should have said to her bosses, please don't make me go on and talk about COVID. Everybody knows that I was sending sweet, loving text to Dr. Anthony Fauci. I'm so embarrassed. I'm cringing at myself. And instead, she's on there. of the walk yelling at Robert F. Kennedy Jr.. and acting like he did something wrong. Yeah, and of course he didn't, in fact. She did something wrong. Anthony Fauci did something wrong. Biden did something wrong. Gretchen Whitmer did something wrong. Gavin Newsom, you know, Andrew Cuomo, all of the rest of them. They're the ones who really should be apologizing. And you're right when you say, how can we forgive them if they don't apologize? Because the thing is, they're just going to do it again. And when she brings up and says, I'm talking about a public health crisis, I'm not talking about constitutional rights. Well, I beg to explain to you, Dana, that in fact we don't lose our constitutional rights just because there's a public health crisis. Our constitutional rights trump everything. And she probably would rather forget that during COVID, you had a bunch of doctors, coerced, and everybody else telling us that, in fact, racism was a bigger public health threat than COVID. And so if you were protesting racism... go out in the street to have a grand old time. But anyone else trying to leave your house, go to work, keep people employed, you're a grandma killer. So I have no time for these people or their, you know, attempts to shame Robert F. Kennedy Jr.. at this point. I would have rather that he was the health official in charge during COVID because I think then we would not have had so many people losing so much over this extended cold.

Yeah, I 100% agree. I do want to play the response to this, Libby, because I think it ties into a little bit of what you're saying. But when she says, I want to move on, take a listen to this next cut. But you were saying, you were, yes, I do. Because you were part of the problem. No, I wasn't part of the problem. Yeah, there was absolute press malpractice. We weren't allowing your job. Mr. Secretary. Your job is a fierce skepticism toward authority. And you weren't doing that. You were beating up on people. No. Okay. Are you going to, you want to sit here and attack me? Or do you want to have conversations about public health? I'm not attacking you. I'm asking you. I'm asking questions about how to prevent the next. I'll tell you. That's what I'm trying to do. But I also don't want to use this. interview to allow you to say things that aren't entirely true. Oh, it's such a cop out, Libby, this idea of like, we're the truthkeepers and we want, and this is exactly what happened during COVID. This is exactly how we ended up here. We had a group of people who were telling us what can be said and what can't be said and what gets you labeled a conspiracy theorist and what gets you labeled a grandma killer and what gets you labeled a good person. person. And they're the arbiters of what is allowed to be talked about her question. And now they're all turning around pretending that it never happened. Yeah, they're not just pretending that it never happened. But if you really pressed them, they would tell you it was a good thing. They would tell you that it was important to censor misinformation and disinformation. And I forget which one. But one of those is actually true information that they don't want the public to hear. That's what that is. So, yeah, they would go back and they would tell you that that was all the right thing to do if they were truly pressed on it. And that's why they are trying to obfuscate their true intentions here and trying to pin the blame somewhere else. You would also mention earlier that she talked so down to Robert F. Kennedy Jr.. as though, you know, she's better than him and everything else. This is how they talk to all Trump officials. This is how they talk to all Trump officials during the first administration. If it's Obama, if it's Biden. They go all in on kissing their butts, but as soon as you have someone in there that they may not politically agree with, they treat them so badly. We saw what happened that Sarah Mike Huckabee Bernie Sanders. Remember, she was chased out of a, I don't remember if it was a Perkins or a Waffle House or whatever, but she was chased out. You had Maxine Waters saying, bring the fight to Trump officials wherever you see them, tell them we don't want them around. And this is what leads to the kind of attitudes that we see out there in the world where we have, you know, an assassination culture coming. We have a fascination culture underway. We've seen this. They killed Charlie Kirk, you know, which I think a lot of people still haven't gone over. The killing of Brian Thompson, you know, who knows what's next. And this idea that... debate and discourse are not meant to be free and open where every idea is on the table and we can all entertain different ideas without having it be personal and violent and all the rest of it. That's just gone. And anyone who engages in this kind of discourse that she does should be ashamed of themselves. It's just not how we are, should talk to each other in America. And it's not like, I totally agree Libby, but it's also when you think about the things.

that were being suppressed. And right now, when you think about the things that are being suppressed, it's not controversial things, really. It's stuff that even 10, 5 years ago we could all say. And I'll give you an example. Like in COVID, if you sat down at a restaurant and you said, why do I have to wear a mask when I'm standing up? But when I sit down, I can take it off. Is the virus only? above a certain part of the air. Why is it now I'm safe because I'm sitting at a table. That was not allowed to be said. You're ignorant. You're not an expert. Leave this to the experts. Let us do our thing. You don't know what you're talking about. And it was just common sense stuff that people started to notice. And you had to keep it to yourself because you were afraid if I say the common sense thing, maybe I'll be labeled some sort of evil person. Now what we have is the same thing, but it's about men and women's sports. You are no longer allowed to just state obvious facts and to point out, well, this is strange or this doesn't feel safe or this feels wrong. Now all of a sudden by doing that, unless you have some sort of biology degree, you're made to feel like you're not part of this conversation. or you don't have a right to speak up about it. I want to play a cut here because since Sophie Cunningham came out and did the brave thing and stood up for girls in sports, now all of these coaches and players are using it as an opportunity to get in the good graces of the woke mob. We'll see how long that lasts. But this is Indiana fever, H.C. Stephanie White, this is the head coach talking about Sophie Cunningham speaking up about this. This is cut 10. What is your stance on men or athletes who tested biological male? participating in women's sports what's your personal stance yeah i mean i'm i don't know that i would say that i'm educated enough from a scientific standpoint i don't ever believe that exclusion is an answer i just don't okay so pause there for me jared She's not educated from a scientific. Here we go again, the science. Some people are allowed to say basic facts and truth and acknowledge reality and other people are not. And if you don't want to acknowledge reality, your cop out is, well, I'm not a scientist. Yeah, I think we all know that that's that. We've all taken, you know, standard biology in high school. We know the difference between men and women, even if this coach and Elliot Page do not. The rest of us are pretty clear on those differences. And I wonder what she would say if LeBron James put on a dress. You know, I mean, I think he's contracted to the Sixers right now, so he can't do that. But if LeBron James showed up in a dress and kept the beard, kept the, you know, anatomy intact. and said, hey, I want to play on the WNBA. You can't exclude me from that. And on top of that, it would be racist. If you did, then what would they say to that? And if they can tell the difference between a real trans woman and a man.

Then why can't they tell the difference between a woman and a man? The differences are far more obvious. And when you say that, you know, we're not allowed to talk about this. We're not allowed to say this. Or the other thing, I think, and you brought up the thing with the masks, I think the issue has a lot more to do with a sort of, you know, dare I say it, communist thought control approach. If we stop asking questions, if we just accept the absurdities on their face and state falsehoods. right, and lie to ourselves and lie publicly, then we're a much easier population to manipulate and control. And if we can't tell the difference between truth and lies, then what do we even have left as a nation? I was recently in New York. There was, I was at the CVS. They had locks on the refrigerator cases. Two refrigerator cases were locked. The two next to it were not locked. I had to call the customer service. The guy comes over. And I say, hey, why are those two unlocked and this one is locked? And he says, you know, I have no idea. I don't even know why. You know, I stopped asking questions. And I thought, yeah, that's the goal. They want you to stop asking questions. Yeah, they want to confuse everything. They want to make everything seem like it's more complicated. And, you know, Libby, I said this once. because, and I've had conversations with you about this. I'm not like an academic person by any means. I try to read as much as I can. I try to stay up on things. But every once in a while, I'll run into someone who's a real smarty pants and they'll run laps around me on something. Well, this statistic show that, you know, when men have X amount of testosterone or this or that. And I'll just look at them and say, I still think it's strange that you want men competing against women in sports. I still think it's strange. And there's nothing you can say with your Harvard degree, with your doctorate, with your whatever that's going to convince me that it's not. And I think that's how a lot of people in this country feel. It's like, sure, you guys want to sit in your liberal bubbles and talk to each other with all your buzzwords and all your reasoning and all your copouts. That's fine. But I can still tell you. that I think it's strange. And it's not coming from a hateful place. It's not coming from a bigoted place. It's just coming from looking at something and still being able to think about what is my gut telling me about this? And my gut is telling me that young women should not be forced to compete against young men. And what I find particularly pathetic about these WNBA coaches and players is that it's fine if you don't want to comment on it. It's fine if you don't want to involve yourself. But then don't try to make Sophie Cunningham out to be the big bad wolf because she's saying she actually has the guts to say it. think it's an issue just because in the WNBA it's not an issue, then you're admitting that you just don't care about the younger athletes, the young girls who are in high school who do have to deal with these problems. There are people actually worried about this. And just because it's not affecting the WNBA because they'll never let a man play in the WNBA doesn't mean that you can't stand up for girls who aren't in the WNBA but would like the chance to be someday. Libby Evans, I think I took up more time talking than you did and I appreciate you coming on the show. I will talk to you very soon. I love it, Grace. Thank you. I'm fired up today. Libby got me fired up. I appreciate you coming on. Libby. We'll talk to you again soon. We will be right back. I have more to discuss on the Caitlin Clark, Sophie Cunningham, fever, ESPN, nonsense that's going on. And we are going to talk about the DSA. So stay with us. Everybody's talking about weight loss injections because the results are so dramatic. They work by lowering blood sugar and reducing appetite. Someone I know.

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And saying the unpopular thing, the not woke thing, that women and girls should be able to be in spaces without biological men, either coming into their locker rooms or competing against them in sports or the coach wearing the t-shirt and blazer. And with that, you know with that teacher, what she's trying to do, right? She's trying to hop on. Like, she's just trying to show everyone, I'm not with her. I'm not with the brave one here. I'm with the sheep. That's the part of this I find, I find so appalling is like, I get that Sophie Cunningham has a different level of chutzpah than these other people do. I get that she has a different. backbone than these people do. But what cowards for these coaches to then try to, they think they're going to have the low-hanging fruit of, I hate Sophie too. And you think that's going to get you a green light from the mob? Think again. Sophie Cunningham more courage than all these women in the WMBA put together. Caitlin Clark included. We'll be right back.