It's The Honor System In NJ's Election System

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to the federal government is because she knows the truth about non-citizens registered to vote in her state. And according to an article in Politico this weekend, everybody knows it. Politico, the headline, tell me if this sounds familiar, would you? The headline is, it's the honors system. New Jersey's non-citizen voter registration brings private worries into the open. It's the honor system. That's a quote from a New Jersey election official describing the process that they use to register people to vote. It's the honor system. As you heard me mention on this program when this story first broke, when we juxtaposed it against the arguments against one small provision in the Save America Act, which would say that you have to prove your citizenship when you register to vote. I said, think about this. We are registering people and allowing them to vote in this country on, say it with me, the honor system. And my deal that I want to make with Democrats now, since they oppose any kind of proof and validation of somebody's voter registration, here's my deal with you. I'll shut up about the Save America Act. Every Republican in this country, including every congressman and every senator and the president, will shut our mouths. and not say anything more about the Save America Act and wanting to register voters and prove their citizenship when they register to vote. If Democrats, you agree to allow us to run our federal income tax program in the exact same way you want us to run our voter registration program on the Otter system. Every year by April 15th, every single American taxpayer, we will write a check or we will demand a refund on our withholdings based on what we claim our income and expenses and taxable income is. It'll be on the honor system. We will not provide you any proof. We will not provide you any data. We will not show you any written forms verifying our income, our taxable income, our expenses. Trust us on this. We're going to fill out a little card just like all of those illegal immigrants are filling out when they register to vote. We're going to fill out a little card and we're going to check a little box that says we verify that it's true. And you're not allowed to investigate. No, everyone who works at the IRS right now, I'm sorry to tell you this. But because of Democrats, you're all out of work. Because it's the honor system now. We're going to pay our taxes in the same way we register people to vote. Democrats, you good with that? You down with that? We've got a deal? Because I'm telling you, this is going to be a very popular idea. It's going to be super duper popular. And I know that I can take that because I know people are yelling back saying, no, Larry, no, we can't let non-citizens vote. We can't let illegal immigrants. Trust me, Democrats will never take me up on this offer. Ever. But it points out the absurdity of what we've got going on here, Politico this weekend. It's the honors system.

In May, bipartisan duo of New Jersey state senators introduced a simple piece of legislation that got little public attention. It would add one sentence to the state's automatic voter registration law to make sure someone who indicates they aren't a U.S. citizen won't be prompted to register to vote. I just pause there for a moment. In New Jersey, you're automatically registered to vote. In New Jersey. When you go to get a driver's license where they are very proud of themselves and they virtue signal and pat themselves on the back about the fact that they give non-citizens and illegal immigrants a driver's license because it makes the road safer, they claim. in New Jersey, when that illegal immigrant goes to get their beautiful driver's license, which, by the way, I'm told that black people in this country and married women are incapable of getting. But, you know, you cross the border from Guatemala or Guatemala or Guada whatever. Come into this country, you go to the DMV, apparently, you can get a driver's license, look at a split. But, you know, for decades, they told us that African Americans are incapable of doing that. But, you know, some third world impoverished migrant who comes across the country as a drug mule for some cartel and then gets to stay in this country and get your free government cheese on a daily basis. They can get their driver's license, no problem. In fact, hey, we're giving out driver's license like it's candy. Come on, folks. You get your driver's license there in New Jersey and then you're automatically registered to vote. And they wanted to add one sentence to that law. that would make sure that anyone who said they weren't a citizen wouldn't then be asked if they wanted to register to vote. But it got, of course, blocked by Democrats. Mikie Sherrill, the governor of New Jersey, made a big deal out of grant standing and saying that they were being transparent and showing the world that they had 6,600 non-citizens registered to vote. But here's the problem. The state has been automatically registering drivers since 2018. The figure of 6600 that Mikie Sherrill announced with such great fanfare and transparency that only covers June 23 to June 24. There's another five years in question here. Yeah, we've got more on this in a moment. It's O'Connor & Company from Orlando. For nearly 3,000 years, Homer's The Odyssey has shaped Western imagination. It tells the story of Odysseus as he faces monsters, shipwrecks, false comforts, and impossible choices on his long journey home. As one of the foundational works of Western literature, Homer's epic is more than a mythology. It explores permanent questions about courage, duty, loyalty, family, leadership, temptation, and the search for home. In one of the epic's defining moments, Odysseus rejects the offer of immortality from the goddess Calypso, choosing instead the long and difficult journey home. His decision reveals one of the central themes of the Odyssey that a life of duty, family, and home is greater than a life devoted to comfort or glory. Achilles chose glory. Odysseus chose home. That's why Hillsdale College has released its newest free online course, The Odyssey, taught by Professor Benedict Wayland.

The course reveals why Homer's masterpiece remains one of the greatest works of Western literature. Find this free course at Charlie for Hillsdale.com. That's Charlie for Hillsdale.com. Read the classics, study the West. The Odyssey from Hillsdale College. Go to Charlie for Hillsdale.com. Yeah, it's the honor system. I just love that they use the exact phrase that I used when I described what was going on. Let's pay our taxes on the honor system. It exposed an open secret about New Jersey's so-called motor voter law that officials and political operatives have known for years. There's little to stop non-citizens from registering to vote if they want to, or even by mistake, and election officials and campaign consultants from both parties believe that the number of non-citizens being added to the voter rolls is significantly higher than the 6600 Cheryl cited because the state has been automatically registering drivers since 2018. Her figure covers only June 23 through June 24. This was all smoke and mirrors. You ever see the movie Prestige, The Prestige? This was all to distract you. Everybody look over here. Look, we're being transparent. We're getting out in front of this. We're being proactive. 6600. Look what we discovered. It was a computer glitch, they said. You knew the truth, day one right here on this program, and I suspect on this station as well. A little bit more on this story, and what I would hope would be an absolute boulder rolling down the mountain of momentum for John Thune and Republican senators to pass the SAVE Act provisions that are currently in the reconciliation bill and what they're facing this week in that regard. We'll get to those details. coming up in a very quick second. But first, I do want to just take, and I'm telling you just 30 seconds here to say thank you for our drive that we just did for food for the poor. This campaign, it ended over the weekend, and thanks to you. My audience donated enough money to feed over 500 hungry kids in the Caribbean, Latin America, including those earthquake victims from Venezuela. That's two nutritious meals a day for the entire year for 500 hungry kids. I'm so grateful. I'm going to leave the food for the poor banner up at Larry O's Show.com in case any last minute givers still want to help. But please know your generosity towards kids. None of us will ever meet has really touched all of our hearts here on the O'Connor & Company. team. Thank you very much for that. Here's what the Senate is looking to do this week. The idea is that they can actually get work done before they go on their recess because, you know, they've been working their butts off. They need to recess, everybody. The to-do list right now, of course, starts with the budget resolution package. That paves the way for the reconciliation package. The majority leader, John Thune, has said that he doesn't have the votes to advance the measure. But that means that he's got Republicans outside of Mitch McConnell, Lisa Murkowski, and Susan Collins, who have lined up against a budget reconciliation package. And John Thune has not named those people yet. And now with this latest news coming out of New Jersey.

That, again, is replicated across the board on every blue state that refuses to participate with the Justice Department. You just know it's true. You would think that the pressure would be even harder and firmer on him to do something. Expect more pressure on the budget reconciliation package, which I want to remind you again, Mike Johnson. Foon's only got 53 he has to manage. Johnson's got 219, 220. He's got the same narrow margin, including Thomas Massie, in there. And he's gotten it done time after time after time. Also, you're looking at Trump nominees. You've got Todd Blanche, who it looks like they may have worked out a deal to get him confirmed as the Attorney General. We'll ask Hans von Spikowski about that and this New Jersey voter roll issue coming up in our 7 o'clock hour. We're also looking at the Senate committee looking at a markup of a farm bill. The Agriculture Committee is looking to hold a markup bill on the farm bill this week. Farm bill always very important, but there's a lot of questions about food stamps. Embedded into the farm bill, you know, the food stamp stuff, SNAP, EBTs, that all goes through the Agriculture Department. No wonder that building is so gigantic. Senate is also going to vote on the stopgap measure for the government funding. The Democrats want another shutdown. The Democrats are scheduling another government shutdown for October. That's their October surprise, but I'm telling you now, so you're not surprised. And people are like, oh, will the Democrats have a government shutdown right before the election? Of course they will. If they determine that it will help them. in the November midterms. Now, if they don't think it's going to help them or maybe even make them look bad, then they'll go ahead and extend spending beyond October. But they'll wait. They're going to make John Thune and Republicans wait because, as I've been telling you all year, if you're miserable, if it looks chaotic, if it looks like things can't get done, if they're able to stand in the way of progress and shut everything down and make it look like Republicans can't get their act together and do anything, that helps them. They think that it helps them. If there's riots in the streets they think that helps them you know so they'll go ahead and do that and good luck good luck with your life that's where republicans are facing right now and they refuse to stand up and actually say it like i just did When it comes to supplements, two things matter most, and number one, that it works, and number two, that you can trust it. Now, rather than just tell you about Relief Factor, I like telling you about our customers who have used Relief Factor and whose lives have changed because of it. Chris spent years doing physical work. Chris had sore feet at the end of the day. Like, he needed to put his feet up, and there was no more walking for Chris.

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What they're doing is absolutely crazy. They don't understand that business. They don't understand what brings businesses to Montgomery County or to any metropolitan sector. If you can't make money and protect your property, you're going to leave. Money has feet. When they impose these really crazy laws, then the people who have these properties are going to say, I'm not going to play anymore, and they're going to go someplace. where they can conduct business, the way that they want to conduct business, make a profit, and protect a property. So they're calling this housing discrimination. I would think as a landlord, if you can't verify somebody's citizenship, that's like reason number one where you can decline renting your property out to them. How are they justifying this? The thing is they can't. That's the Iranian thing. You can't justify some citizenship. You can't verify their credit worthiness. Why would you rent to them? It's just, again. Doesn't make sense, but they're doing this from the point of view of, hey, we want votes from the people who, which is interesting enough, if you can't verify your citizenship, how can you vote? But it's, it's, I mean, it's just going around circles. So what's the domino effect here in terms of housing in Montgomery County? I know there's a growing homeless and criminal vagrancy problem happening there. And I know the landlords are already burdened by regulations and various provisions that they have to follow. What do you anticipate if they pass this? And I'm sure that they probably will since Democrats dominate this board. Unfortunately, the whole affordability here in Montgomery County, I think a lot of places across. the nation is a real problem. And they keep imposing these laws and raising taxes and making it harder for homeowners or just anyone to live in these metropolitan areas. For example, in Montgomery County, they were trying to originally raise the property tax by 12% is what the county executive. proposed and then the county council supposedly did us a favor and got it down to like 4.7%. However, the rate of inflation in the area, it was only like 2.7%. So they keep raising, and they keep raising the taxes to the point where it's going to be unaffordable. And again, those people who either have property will leave and the people who have means will leave. And again, these folks who have been elected, these Democrats who have been elected, they don't understand that. Well, and they keep demanding higher taxes, higher taxes, higher taxes, they keep removing provisions that allowed property tax owners to, you know, I know that they've now planned on eliminating an income tax offset credit that they used to be able to employ to offset the...

high cost of property taxes in Montgomery County. But they never look at their spending. There are some major, major ballooning spending going on right now in Montgomery County. And I'm not quite sure what the residents of Montgomery County are getting for all that money. Well, neither are a way. And that's why last year, I started a group called Control MoCo spending. And we actually gathered 14,000 signatures to get a measure on the ballot to require the county to review spending before increasing above the rate of inflation. The basic idea is we, all the people, we have to live within the budget. We have to live within our means. Shouldn't the county council, shouldn't the county... Before you raise taxes, get rid of some of the legacy programs that aren't working. A classic example that we found was the bus system. The bus system, you can use, go around Montgomery County, you see these large, 40-foot-long buses with four people in them. We're like, well, that doesn't make any sense. We should be using small and more efficient buses and not clogging up the road. We did a FOIA request, and we found out that the bus system is only 28% utilized and costs over $13 from all to operate. Why are we doing this? Insanity. Absolute insanity. And you're right. Whenever you're driving around, you always see these buses that are virtually empty. But you've got to have the buses and they're giant buses as well. So, Sully, sort of zoom out for me a little bit here because, you know, you're trying to run for a seat in, again, a county that is sadly dominated by Democrat politicians. And it seems hopeless sometimes. for, you know, conservatives or Republicans or just people that sort of march from a slightly different path than the far left in this country to be able to gain politically in such an environment. What are you hearing when you're going door to door, when you're talking to voters, are you starting to hear from people that they're starting, they want to break out of this pattern of behavior? Because you're not just talking for our listeners in Montgomery County, Maryland, but this entire region, D.C., but also, you know, you could be in Dallas. You could be in Atlanta. You could be in Detroit. And it's the same story over and over again. How do you break through? I offer the solution is common sense. Whenever you talk to people, and I do spend a lot of time talking to people, we focus on the 80-20 issues, the things that affect people at their kitchen table, and that's pretty universal. Taxes are a universal problem. And the idea, whether you're in Dallas, Detroit, or Washington, D.C., you need to control spending so that the property taxes don't continue to rise with reckless abandon.

And, I mean, there's basic things that I think the typical voter wants common sense and a little, I'll say, affordability and accountability back in government. I think it's time. So in this provision that you've put forth to limit the spending in the county, and it seems pretty simple, you know, you can't spend more than the rate of inflation, which, by the way, is typical for any household budget. You know, if I'm spending more than I'm bringing in, I can't demand a raise from my boss to accommodate the extra money I'm spending. That's basically what these guys do. They spend more than they're bringing in, and then they raise our taxes, which is demanding a raise, basically, from us. How would you employ this right now? If you were to be able to pass this provision for limiting and curbing county spending, is this an amendment to the county constitution or how does it work? Again, something that's pretty universal, we can actually put a provision in the county charter that says the county council cannot raise spending higher than way of inflation unless there's unanimous vote to override it. It's a major issue, you know, World War or something. Then you could say, okay, we need to raise taxes. All 11 members agree we can do that. But for the most part, For most years, we should be able to live within our budget. It should be no excuse to not be able to live without our budget. Well, and in the meantime, you've got, you know, back to this housing discrimination based on immigration or citizenship status. It's just, it's mind-boggling. So if you're a property owner, if you're a landlord, if you're renting out your place, they're raising your property taxes, they're increasing spending, which affects your taxes as well, and it also affects the cost of living in the county. And then they tell you in demand that you can't discern when you're renting out your property, whether you want to rent a citizens or not? And are you even allowed to ask for documentation and proof of identification when you're renting out your property? I mean, how are they supposed to enforce this, this ridiculous bill? They can't. And, you know, this is where, you know, some, we have some council members who are legislating from inside, you know, a bubble. They read something, oh, hey, we need to do this. Another thing that they've done is they put rent caps. So, again, what's going to happen to a landlord or any business owner with redcaps? They're going to say, oh, guess what? I can't make any money. I can move to a neighboring jurisdiction, and I can actually make a profit. I can protect my property, and my business will grow. And some people who are making these laws just plainly don't have any common sense and don't get it.

Well, and the council member who proposed this, Kristen Mink. in Montgomery County said that citizenship or documentation doesn't tell you anything about how a person is going to be as a tenant. It seems to me that if you know a person has already broken our laws with regard to our border and our visa and citizenship requirements to come into this country, and then you remain in this country, so you're breaking those laws too. And if you've got income to pay rent, I'm guessing you're working in this country, so you're breaking those laws too. If you know for a fact that you're renting your property out to someone who consistently breaks the laws of our country, it seems to me you should be able to say, yeah, you know what? You're probably going to break the rules in this building. You're going to break the rules in my home. I'm not going to rent to you. And you're probably at the end of the day, you're probably not going to pay rent. Let's say right there. If you're not going to pay rent, why should I rent from you? And they're going to, and the tenant is, what are you going to do to me? It's not like you can't kick me out of your home and your apartment if you can't even kick me out of the country. Sully Dan Sullivan, we got to leave it there. Tell people how they can support your campaign there. Well, again, I'm running for county council in Montgomery County District 1. Please visit my website at Reardon-Solvenfor-Mocco.com, and that's F-O-R-R-N-Solver-Mocco.com. Also, we have a stop-to-spend ballot petition to limit spending in the county, and the website for that is control mokospending.com. There it is. I've known Mr. Dan Sullivan for many years. He's a really good man. It works tirelessly. for common sense causes in Montgomery County, which are few and far between, sadly, but he's always on the right side of him. Mr. Dan Sullivan, Reardon, Sully, thanks for joining us. Always good to talk to you, my friend. Well, thank you. Thank you for having me, and have a great day. You too. All right. I'm excited to tell you about some, speaking of friends, new friends at consumer cellular. If you're like me, you've just sort of re-uped with your cell phone company year after year after year just because. And I don't know if you've looked at your bill recently, but you're getting screwed. Big wireless is totally pulling one over on all of us. So it's time to switch to consumer cellular. I'm getting the same fast, reliable nationwide big wireless coverage, but I'm not paying the big wireless cost. Most people 50 and up use less than 8 gigs of data a month. But big wireless, they want to shove you into their higher priced unlimited data plans. Why? Because they need you to cover the costs of that teenager who's scrolling Insta, whatever, on a minute-by-minute basis. They use all the data. So I went with the consumer cellular. If you're over 50, you can get a single line of unlimited talk, text, and data for only $35 a month. And for a limited time, you can get another $50 off using my special promo code.

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is attributed to Iranians, because Iranians have always been at the top of the list of cyber tactics. There was a time, by the way, when China, and I have no doubt China is hacking our systems, oh, but not our voting systems, except when Kamala Harris tells you China's hacking our voting systems, or Joe Biden tells you, China's hacking our voting systems. But two weeks ago, when President Trump told you that China was hacking our voting systems, then they said, oh, no, no, China doesn't do that. There is no definitive forensic attribution right now by the U.S. government that Iran carried out this cyber attack. Officials and investigators, apparently, this according to the New York Times, described the link as preliminary or likely based on patterns rather than actual released technical proof, like specific malware signatures, infrastructure, claimed responsibility. Last I checked, Antifa loves to mess around in the state of Minnesota, right? Last I checked every left-wing terror group from environmentalist to Black Lives Matter to... the anti-ice core. They're all hanging out in Minnesota. And these are all groups who would love to mess with our basic systems and way of life in this country. They're anarchists. They want to burn it all down. Why would Iran be targeting Minnesota? And by the way, why is Minnesota of all places vulnerable compared to other states? I would think that if Iran could cyber attack some of the systems in this country at the municipal level, maybe they'd target some state other than Minnesota, unless Minnesota. has such lax security systems in place because of their bad leadership that they left themselves the most vulnerable. I don't know. There's a lot of questions here, though, aren't there? The president, by the way, the president speculated, and he probably shouldn't speculate. But I got to think that the president of the United States, the commander in chief who gets a daily intelligence briefing, probably speculates at moments like this from a position of knowledge. and wisdom, I would hope, but here's what the president had to say about these cyber attacks over the weekend. Let's play that clip one. Today, I just want to mention that we heard in Minnesota. There was a cyber attack, and they blame them on Iran. I don't think so. I think I blame it on Minnesota because they're grossly incompetent. There was a cyber attack of 30 water plants, and I would blame it on Minnesota and the governor, the corrupt governor of Minnesota. They'd like to say, oh, it was Iran. Iran should be so lucky. Iran's got bigger problems than more than about Minnesota.

So I've tried to drill down on this. And again, it could be Iran. I don't know. All right. Unlike the New York Times and other people who are just reporting verbatim that this was Iran who did the cyber attack. And then they're pointing out this group of hackers called Cyber Avengers, but the E and Avengers, the first is spelled with the number three. It's tied to the IRGC Cyber Electronic Command. I don't know. And that command has previously targeted U.S. water systems, and that makes sense. Right? Like U.S. systems, not some local municipal system. But according to the New York Times, Washington Post, they reported that U.S. and state officials, intelligence agencies, and people familiar with the investigation, assess Iran as the probable cause. And local officials, like the mayor of Brom, Minnesota, has amplified that. Well, why would the local mayor of the municipality whose water system screwed up and got all messed up would immediately say, well, yeah, it's Iran? And why would the New York Times hang their hat on a local mayor in some city, Brom, Minnesota, as the source? There has been no official statement from any. of the official agencies that handle these things. And maybe we should just keep an open mind. We'll talk to Morgan Wright. He's an expert on this. He joins us in our 8 o'clock hour. Listen, whether you're preparing for exams, juggling family and career, or just trying to stay sharp as you age, think factor is here to help. It's created by the same company that makes relief factor. Think factors support sharper, focus, stronger recall, and clearer thinking. It's a natural way to give your brain the daily nutrients it needs from memory attention and even vibrant. vision. I take Think Factor every single morning before the show, and I have noticed the difference in my life. Later in the afternoon, when you're starting to feel a little foggy, I don't feel foggy like I used to. Think Factor is there. Helps me stay focused during demanding tasks, keep my memories strong, maintaining mental energy. Go to Relieffactor.com and order Think Factor. Your first bottle is just 1995. That's Relieffactor.com, or call 804 Relief Think Factor. Think clearer, perform better daily. And we are live here always on our flagship station, WMAL, from Washington, D.C. That's still where this show originates across the country. But today we're physically in our beautiful AM-950 FM 94.9, The Answer Studios in Orlando, Florida, of all places. Long story on how I got here. But I thank Tony and Lou and the whole team here at the station for accommodating me this morning.

as Rush Limbaugh used to say, it doesn't matter where I am. What was it he used to say? But as long as you're there, wherever it is, the show goes on. So here we are in beautiful Orlando. I'm only sorry that I can't go to Epcot, one of my favorite places, except when it's owned by, you know, those... insane people at the Disney Corporation. Good morning, O'Connor and Company from the Relief Factory Studios. I come up in the next hour. Morgan Wright, as I mentioned, he is an expert on cybersecurity. We're going to talk about this supposed attack from Iran and what other systems in this country might be vulnerable to cyber attack. That's coming up. But joining us right now, a friend of the program, we speak with him once a week right here. every week at this time. He is our legal expert, senior legal fellow at Advancing American Freedom, the one and only Hans. Von Spikoski. Hans, good morning. Thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me, Larry. I don't know if you heard earlier. I was talking about this Politico article. The political article about the New Jersey voter rolls, here's the headline. It's the honor system, in quotes. New Jersey's non-citizen voter registration brings private worries into the open. You've been talking about this, Hans. This is automatic motor voter registration, no checks and no actual control. No, and it's even worse because, remember, the 6,600 aliens that they found on the voter rolls, these were aliens who were actually honest when they went to DMV, and they checked the box saying, I'm not a U.S. citizen, and yet... Do Jersey register them to vote anyway? What we don't know is how many more aliens are on the rolls who actually said, no, yeah, so I'm a U.S. citizen. And because they do no, that's easy to do and easy to get away with. Hans, also, the article points out that they've been doing this automatic registration at the Motor Vehicles Agency in New Jersey since 2018. These numbers, the 6,600, which you said was a very low ball number. This only encompasses June 23 to June 24. So you're talking about another, what, five, six years worth of registration that they refused to release. That's right. Yeah, yeah. And remember, we're talking about New Jersey, but other blue states like Illinois, California, they all also have automatic voter registration. And those are all states that provide driver's licenses, not just to aliens here legally, but also to aliens who are here illegally.

Mikie Sherrill, the governor, has said out of one side of her mouth that she wants to be completely transparent and to get to the bottom of this and then on the other side of the mouth, she is refusing to hand over the state's voter rolls to the Department of Justice. And she claims that she wants to protect the private information of the citizens or the, I shouldn't say citizens of the people who are registered to vote in New Jersey, Hans. Does she have a valid point there that the Justice Department has no right to access that personal information? No, she's totally wrong because there are two separate federal statutes, the National Voter Registration Act and the Help America Vote Act, all of which tell the Justice Department you have the responsibility for ensuring that states are maintaining accurate, current, up-to-date voter rolls. And that enforcement power gives them the right to look at. the statewide voter registration list to check. Are they taking people off who are dead, who've moved out of state, and are they making sure aliens are not registered to vote? Harvey Dillon, who runs the Civil Rights Division of the Justice Department, that's where these voting issues fall under. That's where you used to work, Hans. She wants to pursue this. What's the next step, then, for Ms. Dillon to be able to pursue this? Well, she's obviously going to have to file a federal lawsuit. Now, I will tell you that she's been having a tough time, frankly, because of bad federal judges, mostly Biden judges, Obama judges, who keep refusing to enforce those federal laws and keep refusing to force states to turn over their voter lists. all those decisions are going to have to be appealed. They eventually, I think, will get to the U.S. Supreme Court. And like so many other cases we have seen in many other areas, once they get to the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court actually enforces the law and overturns many of these injunctions. Hans, while this is going on and we see the results of the four disastrous years at our border with regard to illegal immigration under Joe Biden and now Democrats calls to a polish ICE, which is the one agency that would enforce those laws. with regard to illegal immigrants. We're now, I'm sure you saw the harrowing scenes in Spain or in the Spanish enclave of that island just north of Morocco. What's your assessment of what's going on over there and what it tells us about our immigration and border issues over here in this country?

Well, it was something like 60,000, I think, is the number of Africans that suddenly swarmed over the border. Spain is experiencing now what we experienced during the Biden administration. Those swarms of aliens coming in, you can pull up the videos. Remember, the same thing happening on our southern border. And remember, this is such a serious issue. that many other EU countries, Italy, for example, have suspended. the 1985 treaty that allows people to move freely throughout Europe. As you know, from your trips over there, you no longer have to stop at the borders between Spain and Portugal, France, etc. The situation is so threatening that many countries have suspended that agreement. And that tells you, like I said, what a dangerous situation this is. Right. Basically, the European Union operates... not too dissimilar to the United States, where if you can cross our border and get into New Mexico, you can basically, if you can get there, you can go anywhere you want. I mean, the Biden administration actually paid for you to fly to certain states for their own, I think, census and apportionment reasons. But it would be the same thing there. So you get into Spain and you've got a ticket to Germany. You've got a ticket to, you know, Belgium. what freedom do the countries have there to be able to suspend that? And what do they do then? They demand you have to go through a passport identification system or what is it that they do in terms of moving freely? If Spain doesn't get this under control, and if these countries keep this suspension in place, they may once again have to set up border control stations along, for example, all the major highways leading in between these countries. They won't have any choice, but they'll have to do that if Spain doesn't get their borders under control. Is there any doubt that the next election or the next couple of elections could see the U.S. right back to where we were and we'd see these same images with our border control and our border situation? Oh, yeah. Look, open borders is the official policy of the Democratic Party these days, even if they don't say so. And it certainly is the policy of the Democratic Socialists who have been gaining control of the Democratic Party. And almost everything that the president has done, President Trump, he's done through executive actions. That's why we actually have our border under control. Now, that could be reversed on the first day.

that a Democratic president gets into office, and I have no doubt it would be. Right. Yeah, because no laws have changed. No laws have changed. It's just the president is enforcing the law. Hans von Spikosky, he's the senior legal fellow at advancing American freedom. Hans, we've got more in the news, so you're going to stick with us. But we're real fast. One more thing on this border issue. This guy, Abdul El-Sayed, who's trying to get the Democrat nomination there in Michigan. Their primary, I think is tomorrow. Right. He was asked, you know, well, you want to abolish ICE. Who then would enforce the laws? And he said, well, I want to go back to the days of the INS immigration naturalization services. Can you explain how more ironic that story is? Because you were sort of at the DOJ when the whole ICE, DHS, everything sort of got redone under immigration. Does that make any sense to say abolish ICE but reinstitute INS? No, because ICE is the INS. They just changed the name and brought it in under the now huge Department of Homeland Security. So that's a ridiculous statement by that candidate. The idea of abolishing ICE, which again is kind of the position now for the Democrats. There's a few whole stuff. I'm saying, we just want to reform ICE. Is there any other agency then if they did abolish ICE or if they defunded ICE or if they told ICE that they're no longer? Is there any other agency that is empowered to enforce immigration laws and if they encounter an illegal immigrant or a criminal that they could then put them to the process of deportation? No, that would severely handicap the ability of the federal government to control our borders. And as Ronald Reagan once said, if you don't control your borders, you are not a nation. Yeah. So when they say abolish ICE, what they're really saying is stop enforcing our immigration laws. They just don't want enforcement. Right. Yeah. Right. It's just like they're defund the police. Hans von Spikowski joins us. It continues in the next segment because we've got to get an update on acting attorney general Todd Blanche, what's involved in getting the deal so that the Senate actually confirms him. And the mystery of the reflecting pool got even more mysterious this weekend. We'll get into it. Coming up next, Don O'Connor & Company. It's continuing with Hans von Spikoski here as we discussed the latest legal news, Justice Department news. He's our senior legal fellow over at advancing American freedom. Hans, it looks like there's been a deal reached here between John Cornyn and an outgoing senator in Texas and Thom Tillis, outgoing senator from Kentucky, specifically, is it Kentucky? I think he's from Kentucky. With regard to the North Carolina. Kentucky. I can't remember. Hans.

Thom Tillis. Oh, anyway, the point is. Thom Tillis, North Carolina. It is North Carolina. It has to do with the anti-weaponization fund. This, of course, we've discussed this in the past. The president, his rights were violated. His tax returns were released. He sued the IRS. They reached an agreement, and part of that agreement was an anti-weaponization fund that other people who have had the government weaponized against them and against their civil rights could actually dip into this fund. By the way, settlement fund. like that are not outside of the norms, right? I remember the Pigford settlement. There was also a settlement that was done for Native Americans with the Department of Agriculture as well. Is there anything sort of bizarre or outside the lines about this anti-weaponization fund? No. And, you know, what's interesting about this, basically he's getting the votes of John Cornyn and Intelis because he said, well, we're not going to put into place this weaponization fund. But everybody seems to forget. There is a permanent appropriation over at the Treasury Department called the Judgment Fund. It never gets any publicity. that judgment fund can be called upon and used at any time by the U.S. Justice Department to pay off judgments against the government and, most importantly, Larry, to settle cases. In other words, you know, if a lawyer sends a letter to the Justice Department saying, hey, I'm representing Joe Smith, he's going to sue you. because of government misbehavior. If the Justice Department decides, oh, you know, that's a legitimate claim, we should settle the case before he files suit. The Justice Department can do that, and all they have to do is send a notice over to the judgment fund at the Treasury Department and say, you know, send me $100,000. I'm using it to settle this case. That has been in place. for decades and could still be used by the administration. The concern apparently was the people who were persecuted in their minds by the Justice Department with regard to January 6th. And I know people who went out of pocket, they weren't even on the... capital grounds the day of January 6, but because they worked for the Trump administration, they had to lawyer up to the tunes of half a million dollars to just deal with the subpoenas from Liz Cheney's hearing. Basically, they could come and they could dip into this fund because the government sort of, you know, put them through the ring around January 6th. That's what John Cornyn was concerned about. They've reached some accommodation. Is there anything you can shed, any light you can shed on this? Apparently, they wanted a document from would-be Attorney General Todd Blanche saying that this fund. is not going to happen. Yeah, they wanted a written agreement that this particular fund, what, $1.8 billion or something like that, was not going to be set up, was not going to be used. And Todd Blanche agreed to do that. Like I said, though, that doesn't mean that at some point in the future, if somebody's got a legitimate claim,

against the government for what happened to them that they can't still sue the Justice Department. For example, under federal civil rights statutes and try to get a judgment against the government. And if I was a lawyer representing one of those people you just described, I'd be getting ready to do that. Finally, there seems to be a bizarre story. There's this former Olympian, David Hearn. who was arrested for damaging the reflecting pool. Gene Piro, the U.S. attorney in the district, is now looking to drop those charges saying that it appears that there was a flawed installation of the reflecting pool despite the... Do we know what the details of this are? And why do we get these official announcements of arrests and all of this after, you know, shouldn't they investigate these things before the fact? Well, in this case, apparently they did further investigation, and now they're blaming the contractor for doing it. You know, I have kind of a different take on this, Larry. I think this really shows the high standard of professionalism and ethics of the U.S. attorney, Gene Piro. Because as soon as she discovered that, in fact, there was no justification for this prosecution, she went to the court. and filed a motion telling the court about this. I can guarantee you that if this was still the Biden administration and they were pursuing somebody on a political basis, the fact that they realized they didn't have any evidence would not prevent them from continuing to pursue the case. Thank you, Hans. Always a great conversation. We'll talk to you next Monday. Thanks for having me. Whether you're preparing for exams, juggling family and career, or you just want to stay sharp as you begin to age. Think Factor is here to help. It's created by the same company that makes Relief Factor. Think Factor supports sharper focus, stronger recall, clearer thinking. It's a natural way to give your brain the daily nutrients it needs for memory, attention, and even vibrant vision. You know there's certain nutrients that age your brain in all of its functions. Think Factor is packed full of them. If you want to stay focused during demanding tasks and you want to keep your memory strong, maintain mental energy for whatever you've got ahead of you, think factor is for you. Call 800 the number four relief or visit relieffactor.com to order Think Factor. That's 800 the number four relief or go to Relieffactor.com. Your first bottle, just 1995. Think Factor, think clearer, perform better daily. Coming up in the next hour here on O'Connor and Company from the Relief Factor Studios today coming at you from AM 950, the answer in Orlando, Florida. It's beautiful down here right now. Coming up in the next hour, Morgan Wright, cybersecurity experts, worked with DOJ, with DHS, with the Pentagon. Talk about these hacks that we've just endured there with the Minnesota water systems, other states as well, apparently. Talk about our vulnerabilities there and whether we can actually pinpoint if it did come from Iran or what have you. That's coming up in the next hour. Right now, we're joined by Maryland delegate Nip Kikki. He's also running for state Senate.

I hesitate to say that because it means your opponent has the right to come on with equal time. But you know what? I live in your district, delegate Kipki, so I'd be pleased to have your opponent on. I'll have plenty of questions for them about how to make my life better. Delegate Nick Kipke, thanks for joining us today. Good morning. Great to be with you. Well, of course, listeners of the program will recognize you because for many years you were the minority leader for the Republicans in the House of Delegates there in Annapolis. And, you know, it's a pretty good gig. You work 90 days. That's the legislative session. Then you go home to your regular life. So how happy are you that your governor, Wes Moore and the Democrats, have called a special session in the middle of summer, in the height of tourist season, in Annapolis so that you can go and re-gerrymander the state. You must be thrilled. Well, I hate to say it, but unfortunately, in Maryland, the gerrymandering has been going on for a very long time. Maryland was one of the first states in the nation to basically put the screws to fairness, eliminate all idea of free elections, and make most of the districts in the state rigged for a very long time. Basically, this is like the last twist of the screw to just eliminate all opportunity. for any independent voice in our congressional districts. So it's very disheartening. You know, I love Maryland. I love the people of this state. But unfortunately, the politics has really, really become something that is really unfortunate at this time. That said, in the last 20 years, the voters of Maryland have actually found fit to elect two different... Republican governors. People forget that, including two-term Governor Larry Hogan and under Governor Larry Hogan. There was an attempt to re-jerrymander, and I thought that this had all been settled, Nick Kipke. I thought that the courts were involved. I thought that they sort of figured out that you just can't squeeze more blood out of the stone in Maryland here when it comes to districting out the last remaining Republican districts. So what am I missing here? Now, you're right. Unfortunately, it seems like the people who are leading the state at this time are... more like political activists than legislative leaders. And what they're doing is ignoring what a court judge in Maryland, who, by the way, worked for Barbara McCoskey, one of the most longest, the most senior U.S. senators, a Democrat, a very liberal Democrat. This judge, we all believe, to be a very liberal Democrat.

But she scolded the Maryland legislature and said, you know, you just can't do whatever you want. You have to have some regard for the voters and allow voters to have a voice in our election process. And so because of that, very partisan maps were redrawn. And it preserved a Republican member of Congress, and it made another district a little bit fairer, I would say, under the right circumstances, a Republican could win. And so the most partisan maps were rejected because of a liberal Democrat judge. Here we are now in Annapolis. Basically... On the verge of passing a constitutional amendment that would eliminate common sense from our election process and allow the legislature full autonomy to create the most partisan maps in the country. And it really doesn't have to do with the demand of the voters of Maryland asking for this. This has to do with the Democrats and most specifically the governor just wanting to check a box with the National Party. Gavin Newsom did this. Abigail Spanberger tried to do it in Virginia famously. But this has to do with other states and trying to help out Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer more than it has to do with what's best for Marylanders. Yeah, so our governor obviously has his eye on a run for the White House in the very near future. And there's sort of a clamoring among those candidates who are looking at national office to appease the political winds that are blowing at this time. But I would, you know, mention, you know, they say the governor says this is about fairness. Republicans are doing it. That's bogus. You know, in Nebraska and Indiana, Republicans rejected the most partisan forms of gerrymandering. They said no. frankly, over Donald Trump's objections, which I don't agree with Donald Trump on this one. And a lot of those Republicans lost their re-election because of it. You know, you can push the edge a little bit with redistricting. You can push it a little bit in your favor. But to completely eliminate the voice of the minority party in your state is just immoral. So whether it's Governor Wes Moore, whether it's the Annapolis Democrats, pushing this thing, what you're doing is immoral. You know, you have already gerrymandered and rigged the elections in this state to your advantage, your great advantage. And to take it to this level where you completely silence the voice of the minority is bad for democracy. You know, we hear about, you know, there being a king in this country suddenly. Well.

You know, what's odd to me is this kind of partisan politics is very much like a king. You know, you're saying we don't want to hear the voice of the minority. You are being silenced despite having over a million voters in this state. And it's just wrong. And real quick, Larry, I just one other thing. You know, it wasn't long ago the Democrats wanted to eliminate the filibuster. You know, it seems quick and convenient to do it. But preserving the filibuster was a wise thing to do. It was enshrined in our Constitution for the right reasons. And, you know, we have it here in this state. So just getting rid of whatever political tools you want at any given moment might seem good to you in the short term for political gain, but it may not be right for America. Well, we'll agree to disagree on the filibuster. I mean, I think it's pretty clear that Democrats, if they get power, will do it. And it's not in our Constitution. I mean, it's constitutionally valid for the U.S. Senate to set up their own rules. And if they choose to have the filibuster, I guess they can do that. But on this issue, and again, as the former Republican leader. in the House of delegates, you're used to working with Democrats. You're used to sort of negotiating and sort of working things out. So they know you, Nick Kipke. Do they tell you off the record? Because this hurts Maryland. They have to understand that when there's a Republican majority in the House and Senate and a Republican president, it's pretty wise for a state bordering Washington, D.C. to have at least one Republican have a seat at the table and have some influence so that they can help speak on behalf of Maryland. Why would they do that to themselves and put themselves in a box whenever Republicans have control in D.C.? Yeah, so they don't have to do it. And when they do it, if they do it, it's harmful to the state of Maryland. You know, for example, last year... I was harassed. I wouldn't call it asked. I was harassed by Democratic leaders in this state to appeal to our one Republican congressman, Andy Harris. I was harassed endlessly to get in touch with Andy, get in touch with Andy because there were certain things that needed to be helped in the Republican-led budget process, particularly in our hospital system for the whole state. but also for rural hospitals. And Andy delivered. Andy spoke up and fought hard for Maryland and delivered. And if you do this, any time that there's a Republican Congress, you're going to handicap the state of Maryland by not having a member of the majority party at the table. And so when it's a Republican state, go ahead. You know, when you tell them that, I mean, they've got to know that. Say, hey, remember when you had me lobby Andy Harris to make sure that we got the money for the hospital? Do they just stare at you blankly? Do they, like, pretend you're not there that you're speaking Swahili? How do they respond to that? It's so obvious.

Yeah, well, I used to feel like people spoke a coherent language here, but now we speak politics, politics, politics. And I'll mention during our regular session, our regular 90-day session, there was legislation introduced that would have done the same thing, essentially, and it failed to pass. Despite an enormous amount of pressure, you mentioned Hakeem Jeffries. He came here and lobbied. The governor of our state, Wes Moore, you know, beat his chest about it. short-term political partisan hackery is not right. And that's what's happening here. We're being led by short-term partisan stuff instead of what's right for the people of the state of Maryland. And so, yeah, sometimes, and it used to happen much more often. What's common sense, what's right for the people of the state of Maryland has often won over the years. But right now, what seems to be happening is partisan hacks. seem to be leading the agenda and not thinking about the future. What is the future hold for this state? And unfortunately, the politics is leading us in the wrong direction. What's your prediction? I mean, your body, the House of Delegates passed this last time it got stalled in the Senate. What do you predict will happen this time in this special session? I'm going to be introducing an amendment that would establish an independent commission to do this. It's not my favorite way of doing things, but I think it's a lot fairer than the process being put forward. I want to create the contrast for them to consider. But frankly, the House, I think, has put their head into the sand, and it's just ready to pass this for the governor. I hope that the Senate stands up for what's right. Republicans and other states have done it. And they lost their election in many of them. You know, you have already, Maryland Democratic leaders, you have already partisan hacked this state. You have gerrymandered this state. This last bit of gerrymandering handicaps our state in a way that's not good for democracy. It's not good for the future of the state. So I'm holding out hope that the Senate shows some bravery, which is rare these days in politics, do the right thing. Republicans have done it around the nation, and I hope that they'll do it here. All right, Nick Kipke, good luck with your special session. Good luck with parking, by the way. That's what bothers me the most. You try to go to downtown Annapolis in the summer, what with the plebe summer going on, parents of the midshipmen going on. In fact, I think it's Pleb Parent Week this week as well, so all the parents are in town. Plus, you get your regular tourist traffic, and now you've got a special session with all the government. It's going to be a madhouse in Annapolis. Yeah, things aren't run so well these days here, but politics is winning. We do have an election coming. So, you know, at least Marylanders, wake up. It's an election this year. Let's get out there and vote. Wake up, Marylanders, indeed. All right, nipkicki. Thank you for joining us. Always good to talk to you, sir.

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That's my memory of the whole conversation in this country. So imagine my surprise when somebody joined our ranks this weekend, somebody jumped in there and said, oh, yeah, there's definitely a problem with our election systems. Oh, definitely there's cheating going on. The problem is that person who joined our ranks is Kamala Harris. And she's accusing the Trump administration of cheating. All right. I've got more to say, but let's get right to it. And then I'll comment. Let's start with video number five here. If we can go play this audio, clip five, please. You know, just to revisit that point, what they are doing to cheat. You know, 19 states have done redistricting. And there are many more who didn't have to do redistricting because they already had cut the lines in a way that excluded blocks of voters. And this administration and the people who are leading in a lot of these places, they know that the people are not stupid. The people see that they're paying too much for gas and groceries and housing and child care. They know on merit that they don't have a whole lot to be proud of. And so they know that if the people vote, it is very likely that they may vote them out of office. And so they are cheating. So what she's doing here, and it is so ham-handed and undeftly executed, she's just so bad. And I miss her terribly, and I sure hope she runs for president again. I really, really do. What she's saying here is that if Republicans win, it's because they cheated, which absolutely undermines. I mean, this is the woman who was the nominee for president. just a year and a half ago for the Democrats, even though, by the way, she got that nomination without anybody voting for her. So it's pretty remarkable to hear her decry any system or any concerns about not letting the people decide and not letting people vote. But she's claiming that redistricting is cheating. Redistricting is cheating. We just had a conversation with a state delegate from Maryland. where right now there's only one Republican district, and they're about to come into special session in the middle of August, or the beginning of August, technically, months after their session ended, to redistrict that one Republican out. And she's saying that redistricting Republicans have done is cheating. Gavin Newsom is celebrated right now as a leading contender for governor because he redistricted California. And Kamala Harris is saying that redistricting is cheating. But then she said, look at the economy, look at affordability, look at inflation, which is something she never wanted to look at when it was much worse under her presidency under her vice presidency with Joe Biden. But now she says because the economy is so bad and because people are unhappy that Republicans are going to lose. But if they don't lose, it's because they cheated. The woman's a fraud.

An absolute fraud. And there's more here. But you remember when Donald Trump in 24 said, listen, the Democrats, they've set this thing up here in their states where if it's close, we saw this in 2020. If the election's closed, they're going to find the ballots. They're going to do recounts. It's got to be too big to rig. Remember that too big to rig. It became a chant at the rallies. Too big to rig. Too big to rig. Well, here's Kamala Harris, clip six. Just take a listen. I might find that that polling place is closed. Registering folks to vote and having an agenda that is about turning out the vote in the greatest numbers we have ever seen so that in light of and in this environment where they are cheating, we will be too big to rig. Then she got applause for it. It wasn't enough that she stole no tax on tips. It wasn't enough that she stole no tax on overtime. It wasn't enough that she's done. Of course, they're all lies. She stole, you know, oh, yeah, we have to protect the borders. All of a sudden she wants to protect the borders when she was running for election. And of course, she never intended to anyway. So she just, there's nothing original about this fraud. Oh, and she's even stolen this one from the Socialists. Take a listen to Clip 7. Allow for a real conversation about revisiting certain things. For example, and I know this is going to be controversial coming from me in particular, we need to revisit the electoral college. We need to. Hold on, hold on. This is going to be controversial, especially coming from me, suggesting that revisiting the electoral college would have helped her win the president. Does she know she lost the popular vote too? Is that controversial? It's moronic. And it's derivative. And did I mention she's a fraud? I think I did. Please nominate her, Democrats. Please. It's a very good morning here. On O'Connor and Company, of course, we're always originating from our flagship station, WMAL, in your nation's capital. But today we're in, well, the happiest place on Earth. Is that technically Anaheim? I think Disneyland is happiest place on Earth. We're in the Magic Kingdom. It's Orlando, Florida. It's a long story how I got here. But let's just say, if your flight gets canceled, you make due. I was in another part of Florida. I was supposed to return last night. Didn't happen. I'm not going to complain about it. We just found a beautiful studio, our AM 950 The Answer affiliate, where I'm on every morning from 6 to 9 here in Orlando, Florida, and now I'm here. So for all the Orlando listeners, I'll see you at the Waffle House in about an hour and a half. here as we finish up our final hour of O'Connor and Company. Good morning, and thanks for joining us here from the Relief Factor Studios. We talked about this story earlier in the program, this kind of harrowing story coming out of the Midwest, started in Minnesota, but other states have suggested that they were also victims of a cyber attack that affected some municipal systems, including the water system in much of Minnesota. Morgan Wright is the CEO and founder of the National Center for Open and Unresolved Cases. He's a former senior advisor to the State Department.

on Anti-Terrorism Assistance Program. He's consulted with Homeland Security Justice Pentagon. Morgan, always good to talk to you about stuff like this. Good morning. Thanks for being here. Yeah, unfortunately, every time you bring me on, it's never about happy stuff, and we're in the happiest place on Earth, so maybe we can make something happy out of this. Exactly. Please don't hack Epcot, okay? We can't handle that. Please, no. Yeah. So, first, this story, is it normal to target municipal water systems and things like this, as we've seen, by our cyber enemies? And is this? Well, answer that first, and then I'll follow up, because I've got like 10 questions about it, as usual, Morgan. Sure. Well, Larry, look, there's five domains of war, generally speaking, sea, air, land, space, cyberspace. With Iran, we own the first four. There's no contest. However, where they're able to effectively work and target us is in cyberspace. And so why would you go after not just municipal? Most municipalities own the water supply. But you go after it because in this pattern of activity that we've seen, the one thing that ties all of these together is they're attacking the same thing. And this is open source information. It's a Rockwell called a programmable logic controller. But think of it as the small computer that sits between the software on one side that the engineers run and then the hardware on the other side that turns on the valves and the chemicals. So there's also a theory of war, too, that says if you want to bring a nation to its knees, you go after two things, power and water. If you remember back during COVID, the colonial pipeline. was hacked by dark side ransomware group shut down just distribution we didn't lose a single drop of oil but did you see how people responded just to the perception that we were going to lose energy so it's it's an effective tactic so but that's why you target these things because these things generally are not well protected these PLCs and they're facing the internet and they make them easy targets Yeah, you mentioned Rockwell, I think it's the division, Alan Bradley, that does controls on things like this, that ended up being the vulnerability. But you did, so you're agreeing, based on your sources and your knowledge that this probably was Iran, because the president showed some skepticism that Iran is focusing on Minnesota's water supply when they've got many problems of their own over there. You know, I think what the president was doing, you know, and Larry, you know, too, I stay out of politics. One thing, because I'm a nonprofit, but the other thing is I just look at it from an analytical standpoint. I think he was making a political point about Tim Walz and the state of Minnesota. But when you've got that also seven other states and you've got a common actor, you've got a common what they call the TTP tactics, tools, procedures. And look. The other thing you have to do is you just have to say, look, what's going on right now? Does Iran have an incentive to target us? And look, there's already been reporting out there in the intelligence community and other stuff. There's at least moderate confidence, if not what they call high confidence, that Iran is behind us. Now, the interesting part is Iran getting help. We know that China and Russia may have been giving them some reporting coming out that they're giving them intelligence assistance.

Is Russia has collaborated with Iran in the past? We know that. Is China helping them? Because China is a near peer in cyberspace with us. So if they're helping them, that's a game changer. So it's interesting because, you know, the president has a lot of options in front of him right now with regard to this kinetic warfare that he's considering escalating once again with Iran. Part of that is going after some of their domestic water systems, their power grid, some of their bridges. And for humanitarian purposes, he's sort of suggested, yeah, maybe we're not going to do that. Is there a difference? between us bombing a water treatment plant in Iran and them attacking us via cyber attack and going after the systems that control our domestic water system. It seems to me it's the same thing. It's just one involves an explosion, but they both result in people not being able to get water. Well, now, you bring up the right thing, right? It's targeting and outcomes, right? I can target something kinetically. The outcome is when it's blown up, you've got to rebuild it. I think targeting water is not something I think we do. We're the good guys. We fight with one hand behind our back. I think if you were to take out like the terminals or some of the other stuff, that attacks energy. So that's one of the things you used to bring a nation to its knees. Yeah, you're right. But here's, Larry, this has always been one of the questions I've had for a long time. When does a one and zero get a bomb in a bullet? When does cyber activity result in kinetic activity? And I don't think we're there yet with this, but I think there's no difference in terms of targeting, but there's a difference in terms of outcome. Right. With this, we've been able to recover. Even though they've been locked out, we've been able to recover. All systems are back online. As far as we know, and I say that as far as we know, nothing bad has happened. In other words, no chemicals released, nobody heard. So we can actually get back online quicker. Our ability to recover is quicker. When you bomb something, you know, that is out of action. And I don't think, personally, I don't think we're going to do that to a civilian population. Our guest is Morgan Wright. He is a cybersecurity expert, among other things. And I know that we have cyber warriors. Each of our branches have a division. My kid majored in cyber warfare from the Naval Academy. So I know this is a thing. Are we striking back? Can we strike back cyberwise? We work offense and defense. Is it worth going after them with a cyber attack? I can't tell you that I have inside knowledge because I don't. I don't have clearances anymore, but I wouldn't be surprised if we're targeting them. But Larry, though, the difference is in cyber. Normally, we don't know about our successes, but we know about our failures. Right. If something happens here in the U.S., something happens, we know about that. Right. So, but I will bet my paycheck on this that.

We have been targeting them from a cyber standpoint, U.S. Cyber Command. You've got the intelligence agencies. You've got NSA. We've got all of these folks. There is no doubt we've been targeting them because that's one of the things you do, one of the things you do to shape the battlefield before we launched the first bombs. You would have shaped things from a cyber standpoint, taken out their ability to communicate, interfere with command and control. That's one of things you'll do there. So there's no doubt we continue to target them. But Larry, after a while, when you've taken out so many targets, there's really, there's not a whole lot left to target. In other words, it's a point of diminishing return. I think we've reached that maybe in cyber targets, kinetic targets, you know, we still got a lot of things to bomb, but from a cyber standpoint, it's like North Korea. When, if we want to take them out, you just got to cut one line to North Korea basically and you can shut off internet access to the whole country. So with regard to our cyber defenses, who's responsible for safeguarding our municipal systems like that? It seems like a pretty soft target when you're talking about seven different states and their sort of municipal. I mean, a lot of this stuff is controlled at the county or even city level in some of these states. Is it our military that is responsible for sort of doing safeguarding and putting a barrier up? theoretically cyberwise. I know it's hard to tangibly understand and visualize what we're doing here. Or are we relying on, you know, some county security IT guy in Des Moines that is to protect, you know, the water supply in Iowa? Well, yes, but with a nuance, right? So usually 80 to 85% of all critical infrastructure is owned by the private sector. So, and the things that are owned by state and local government, it's their responsibility to be the first line of defense. Now, do we have kind of a cyber shield that we try to protect and defend against things coming into the U.S.? Of course there is. Now, one of the underutilized resources, a lot of people don't know it, is the National Guard Bureau. And I've actually been training the National Guard. I've got some training coming up in South and North Carolina combined this month in a couple weeks. The National Guard Bureau has a lot of capability as well because the National Guard sits under the governor until they're activated, Title 10, I think, versus Title 34 until they're activated. So they have got a lot of capacity. But a lot of these folks, they will use commercially available cybersecurity. You've got companies out there like CrowdStrikes Set in a 1, Microsoft, Cisco. A lot of these folks, their software is being used. But I will tell you, this whole thing about industrial control systems and these things like these PLCs, this is a much harder thing to defend because we don't have a really good, well-defined, robust capability. Look, if you gave me your phone or a laptop and a network, I could show you, hey, here's all the ways we could do that. But when you start getting into these industrial control things, these actual physical machines, that's an area we're still not. well mature enough and to do a good solid weight defense that we do with networks. They're not attacking the network, Larry. They're attacking that PLC. And that's kind of where our gap is. So if there are parents listening right now when they're, you know, a 14-year-old kid is spending a bunch of time on Minecraft or playing video games and, you know, hack it into the back end. Would you suggest that they look into this as a career? Because it sure sounds like this is a growth part of our defense and our military complex here with regard to cyber warfare.

Larry, here's the advice I would give them. You know, it's learning cybersecurity, but I would learn how to use AI. I would learn how to use Claude, you know, GROC, things like that. That is where I see the next thing is not being able to code as much as think critically about how to defend and protect, yeah. Morgan Wright, founder of the National Center for Open and Unresolved Cases. Always great talking with you. We're smarter at the end of the segment always, and we appreciate that. Thanks, Morgan. Thanks, Larry. I told everyone here in Orlando, listening here on AM 950, the answer of Orlando playing host to us in the program this morning. And thank you for that. Really grateful that I'll see you at Waffle House. That was actually a... It was a faint. It was a dodge. It was meant to distract. I'm actually going to Cracker Barrel. I love me a good Cracker Barrel. We had a Cracker Barrel just opened near my house. I'm very excited. I have not checked it out yet in Annapolis. There's a new Cracker Barrel Annapolis. But we'll be going to the Cracker Barrel, Orlando. Can't wait. Not a good weekend for women's sports. If you're a big fan of women's sports, it was not a banner weekend. It should have been great. But something really, really bad happened in two very high-profile sporting events. One was Sophie Cunningham and Caitlin Clark and the Indiana Lady Pacers. I can never remember the names of the women's teams. Why didn't they just do that? You know, it would have been so good. It would have been so easy for us to cover the WMBA, right? The Los Angeles Lady Lakers, the Lady Pacers, the Lady Nicks, no, but now we've got to remember a whole new set in there. What's the Indiana team? Is it the fever? I think it's the fever. Yeah. Anyway, they were in Minnesota playing the Lady Timberwolves. I don't know what they call themselves. And... And we'll tell you about the protest there against Sophie Cunningham, because Sophie Cunningham, a women's sports star wants only women to play women's sports. And apparently that's a problem. Do they know what the W and WBA stands for? Apparently not. But then there was this. This was even worse. They're now trying to create a women's baseball league. I saw this movie. It was great. Is Madonna going to play for them? Or Rosie O'Donnell, or even better, Gina Davis. Hello, Gina Davis. Oh, gosh, wasn't she amazing in her prime? Anyway, they're starting a women's pro baseball league. And here it was in Springfield, Illinois, the first regular season game, the Los Angeles Queens, there you go, not the Lady Dodgers, apparently, against the New York Heights. And singing the national anthem was the lead singer of Martha and the Vendellas. Remember dancing in the streets back in the 60s? Motown star. She sang the national anthem. And, well, she hasn't practiced in a while since her top 10 Billboard days. Here's what it sounded like. Oh, my goodness. Oh, say, can you see? By the time.

early light was so proudly we hail at the twilight's lastly we need we love this song stop this is why would they do that? Should we keep it? Does it get worse? It does, doesn't it? Yeah, okay. All right, a little bit. Because we love this song. We revere our nation. We love our star-spangled banner. But come on. Did they not clear this? All right, a little bit more. Oh, Lord. Bursting in air gave proof through the night that I fly I was still there. Still there. Okay, all right. Even the players, you've got to check the video out because they'd like close up on the players and they can't even keep a straight face during this. This is their big moment. It's the premier game of the new women's baseball league and they should have had a man sing it, I guess. Couldn't get Whitney Houston certainly. That would have been a miracle. somewhere Roseanne Barr and Carl Lewis are like high-fiving each other now and saying, well, all right, that's it. We're officially not the worst anymore. Remember Carl Lewis's? That was, oh, they really shouldn't do that. Anyway, we move from Martha Reeves. Oh, for those of you who are wondering who won the game, I don't know. No one cares. Okay, let's move on to Cheryl Reeves. Now, she is the head coach of the Minnesota Lady Timberwolves. Lynxes. It's called the Lynx's. And as Sophie Cunningham was coming to play, her team, she decided to wear a trans kids belong t-shirt. So here's Sophie Cunningham. She merely says that men don't belong in women's sports because, you know, the W and WNBA stands for women's NBA. If they had men playing in the WMBA, it wouldn't be the WNBA anymore, would it? Thank you. And she decides to wear this shirt, the head coach from Minnesota, that says trans kids belong. Why go after the kids? Why is it always the kids? So here's the WNBA, finally getting a lot of publicity. They seem to be filling the stands because of Sophie and Caitlin Clark. And now you've got a coach for one team who's endorsing genital mutilation for children. What a business model they've got going there.

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You want people to get the MMR vaccine? Yeah, I said that already. Okay. So. I know you're flustered now and it is. I don't, I'm not frustrated at all. I am frustrated. The reason I'm frustrated is because I, you are the HHS, you are the HHS secretary and you are talking about things that, that, that lead to vaccine hesitancy in this country. And it is something that causes problems for people. Let me ask you. Let me ask you something. Do you see your job as ending vaccine hesitancy or do you see your job as telling the truth to the American people? I see my job as telling the truth. And the truth is that there is is study after study after study. It's one of the most studied things out there in science. You're repeating it like a parrot. You're repeating it like a parrot. I've actually read the science. Let's you and I come back here and debate the science. I'm not debating this. Of course you won't. No, because I'm not debating. All you know how to do is repeat things that people told you and say trust the experts. That's what you during COVID. Now we know that Anthony Fauci, who was the expert, was lying about everything, about mass, about the social distancing, about it. natural immunity about the transmission from the vaccine, about the source of COVID. He was lying and you were punishing people for not trusting the experts. And now you're rolling out the experts again to talk about something that you have no personal knowledge of. Okay. Well, guess what? That is my job to talk to people. Your job is to talk. Am I want to talk? Yes. Yes. And my job is to get as much information as I can. And what we were doing in COVID and still. with regard to these vaccines is getting the best information, the best science that we can, and putting it out there. And, sir, what you are doing is causing information to be out there that is not accurate. Then they cut to commercial and it was brought to you by Pfizer and Moderna and Johnson and Johnson and anything else. The people who wrote the script for Dan Abash. It is a remarkable moment there. And she was flustered. She was stammering. She was incapable of actually debating not the points about the vaccines. And this, frankly, is not even about vaccines. It's not about the MMR. It's not about a measles outbreak. We'll get to that part in a moment. This is about the job of the media and the job of a reporter. And Robert F. Kennedy Jr. had her dead to rights. You're not here to try to get the best information and related to the American people. And you certainly didn't challenge any of the government authorities. Forget about experts. These are government employees, government employees who are mandating and forcing elected officials to ruin people's lives.

And all Danabash would do would say, well, I have a good feeling about this government employee who is in front of me, giving me this expertise, even though we know now when you would think she'd be a little humiliated or maybe at the very least humble. about the fact that she helped promote and relay misinformation at the hands of a government official named Anthony Fauci. But instead, she's right back where she was. But this time, because it's a government official that she disagrees with, or because she's got data in front of her handed to her by God knows who. that says, oh, no, no, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s wrong. Well, where were the people who were saying, no, no, no, Anthony Fauci's wrong? Well, they were disregarded. They were dismissed. They weren't even allowed on the air at CNN, or if they were on the air, Dana Bash would shout them down. And it reached a point where most of us didn't even, we weren't even able to tweet about it or put it on our Facebook page lest we get censored and fired. So then they moved on. You know, Adanabash tried to say, well, because you have sown doubt in people's minds about the MMR vaccine. And by the way, all Senator Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has said is that we need to schedule these things out in a more appropriate way. And every single doctor that I ask about that, and I have personal experience with this, with my children. I've told this story before, but real fast, my oldest child is on the autism spectrum. My oldest child suffered a stroke, multiple strokes during childbirth. Eventually, she has cerebral palsy. We knew that. We knew that she was going to have delays. We knew that she was going to have, we assumed she would have cerebral palsy, but you'd never know until they start getting old enough to walk, et cetera. And her pediatrician specifically said, well, we're going to space out all of her vaccines. And we're going to schedule them out and separate them out. And I said, well, why? And she's, well, the pediatrician said, because it might have an effect of her. We want to be able to monitor. We want to be able to see. We don't want her system to have to take it. And I said, well, why don't we do that with all the parents? And the pediatrician said, and every single doctor who I have talked to and asked about the schedule of vaccines for our children. And there's a ton of them. They all say the same thing to me. I say, why do we not have a better schedule? Why don't we space them out? The answer is because we can't rely on parents being responsible enough to bring their kids in for the shots. So they load them all up. It's not the safest thing to do, but they load them all up on your kids because they think you're a lousy parent. That's it. So all Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. wants to do is rethink the schedule for all of these vaccines and maybe reevaluate whether we need to have like four times more vaccines than Europe does or something like that. It's close to that. So here's Danabash saying, well, you're responsible for a measle outbreak. Again, did not go well for Ms. CNN, Danabash. Clip 13, please.

First of all, this is an international outbreak. So, and we're doing better at handling it than any country in the world. Mexico has 15 times the amount of measles per capita that we have. Canada has four times the amount of measles. England has two times the amount of measles. I cause those measles outbreaks. You're the most famous. And I cause 137,000 cases. You're the most famous vaccine skeptic on the planet. Let me tell you, because actually Anthony Fauci and his diaries answers the question about why we're having a measles outbreak right now. The reason we're having a measles outbreak because the COVID lockdowns, because people didn't like children. During that period, did not get vaccinated. And in his diaries, he says this is going to cause massive outbreaks in measles and more children. He says this are going to die. Let me finish. You could accuse me of something. No, I didn't. I asked you a question. Yeah. Let me give you the answer. He says in his diaries, more children are going to die from measles because of these lockdowns than COVID. So if you want to know, and that age group that should have got the MMR when they're 18 months and didn't get it, they're the ones being infected. The people in this country, and we have stopped the outbreaks at record speed in South Carolina, in Texas, in Utah, and Virginia. We've done better than any country in the world. I dispatch immediately the epidemic intelligence services to those days. I get on the phone with the governor and we stop them in their tracks. Nobody else has been able to do that. You have a bully. Let me tell you just one last thing. Go ahead. The communities that are suffering. from measles are almost all religious communities that just don't vaccinate. The men and I have not vaccinated since 1796 since Edward Jenner invented the smallpox vaccine. It's hard to blame that. I mean, as much as you want to blame. No, I don't want to blame you. I'm asking you because you have a very powerful voice on these issues for people who are skeptical. In fact, let me finish. Let me finish. And I've never questioned the efficacy of the MMR vaccine. So, and again, we can see right through her and what she's down. Oh, I'm not blaming you. And then she goes back to saying, but you're the most leading vaccine skeptic. You have a bully pulpit. You speak on behalf of the skeptics. Okay, well, if you're saying that he's such a powerful skeptical voice about vaccines and at the same time saying we've got a measles outbreak. You seem to be connecting the dots there, ma'am. So then don't play, oh, I'm not saying, I'm not accusing you. I'm not to, of course you are. And by the way, did you catch the very beginning of that clip? Could we go just, just real fast, the very beginning of that clip, because the measles outbreak that everybody wants to talk about is happening in a certain part of East Texas. So what's the very beginning of that clip of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. talking about measles around the world? Go ahead.

First of all, this is an international outbreak. So, and we're doing better at handling it than any country in the world. Mexico has 15 times the amount of measles per capita that we have. There you go, right there. Mexico has 15 times the amount of measles per capita than we have in the United States. The measles outbreak that everyone's got their hair gone on fire about is in Texas. Connect the dots. I'm pretty sure you can connect those dots. All right, a little bit more about autism and vaccines. Again, I just want to make a point. I'm not saying one way or the other anything about vaccines and measles or excuse me, vaccines and autism. What I'm saying is this is what is wrong with journalism today in this country. Clip 14. Did you say probing the link? I'm just quoting the Wall Street Journal, that the president wants you to go further to probe the link between autism and vaccines. He certainly does. Okay. Now. Have you talked to him about medical research that have studied this for 25 years and found no link between autism and vaccines? And just this is my question here, because I don't want to litigate that. My question is, why not? Because you are HHS secretary now. Why not study what could cause autism, which scientists do believe starts with fetal brain development? All right. Pause that. You're going to see more of this. It's critically important. You're going to love it. And you're going to love Marco Rubio with Lara Trump. That's coming up to keep it here. A little bit more here with Robert F. Kennedy Jr.. Again, this is not journalism. This is Dana Bash, who is an affluent white suburban mom. She lives in Montgomery County, Maryland. We talked about Montgomery County earlier in the show. She's trying to speak on behalf of all the moms who are angry at Robert F. Kennedy Jr.. for making people scared of vaccines because now their precious little kid who's all vaccinated up is going to get the measles. They already talked about the... measles issue here with regard to how actually we're better off than most of the world. And Anthony Fauci himself in his diary said that we're going to have a measles outbreak because of COVID because people didn't take their kids in. get them vaccinated, et cetera. You want to blame somebody for not getting vaccines. Blame Anthony Fauci, not only because kids were locked down and didn't get their regular schedule, but also because of his heavy-handed use of the COVID-quote vaccine and forcing people to get it without it being tested and you potentially losing your job because of it.

makes people reluctant to get vaccines because they don't trust anything the public health officials are telling them. So you want to blame somebody. I have problems you. Here's the big data bat saying, oh, you've got a bully pulpit and you're making people worried about vaccines. Saying that to Robert F. Kennedy Jr.? Anthony Fauci had the biggest bully pulpit on the planet and did more to undermine public trust in vaccines than Robert F. Kennedy Jr. would ever dream of doing. But let's pick it up where we left off, where the discussion was a link between autism and vaccines or whatever else people might think might be causing autism. Go ahead. Studies on that, whether there's an environmental lawyer, whether there are environmental factors that go into contributing to a predisposed genetic situation. Let me say this first. We're doing all those things. And that's one of the ways that we found Tylenol. There's 73 studies out there and linked Tylenol exposure during later pregnancy and during the perinatal period to autism mindset. But... You are wrong when you say that this issue has been studied. It has been studied, and you're rolling your eyes. I am because I don't want to have you use our error to say this. There have been more than 40 studies involving 5.6 million people to conclude there is no link between vaccines and autism. This is the head of the Committee of Infectious Diseases for the American Academy of Pediatics. Let me tell you what the Institute of Medicine says, which is the National Academy of Sciences. which is the ultimate arbiter on vaccine safety in which it does not have an interest in this debate. It says that none of the eight vaccines that are administered during the first six months of life have ever been studied for a relationship to autism. It found two studies, one on the DDP vaccine, and showed that it does cause autism and one on the hepatitis B vaccine. And again, suggests that it does cause autism. The Institute of Medicine dismissed those two studies because they were based on CDC's database. The studies that you're referring to are all from one vaccine, the MMR vaccine, or one ingredient in myrissol. So you are using, you are actually looking at your starting new studies to try to link autism, but you're also telling me. I'm not trying to link autism to anything. I'm trying to find out. Why has autism gone from less than what? Are you also trying to find out how it interacts with people's DNA, what's predisposed, to have an autistic child? Are you doing both? Yeah, but Dana, you probably don't understand this because you're not a scientist, but genes don't cause. Gene's don't cause. I understand.

Epidavit. A gene provides environmental. That's what I'm asking. Are you studying the environmental exposure? We're looking at all the different environmental exposures. But yours absolutely revealed herself, especially that part where she said, I'm not going to let you use this show to say the things that that's not her job. It's not her job. And it revealed exactly who they are and who CNN is. And good for Robert F. Kennedy Jr.. Again, I'm not even taking a side on this. I have a vested interest. I have a child who's on the spectrum. But that's not the point. The point is how you conduct yourself in an interview. You know what? Let's end things on this program today from Orlando on an up note because Marco Rubio gave a great sit down with Laura Trump on Fox. Our colleague here on Salem, by the way, Laura Trump. Here's cut 16. Let's start with this talking about Cuba. Go ahead. To the average American, you know, you see Cuba, small country, 90 miles off our shores, you know, 9.5 million people population. What people forget that when it comes to things like espionage and influence operations, they actually are an influence and espionage superpower. If you look at the history of espionage in the United States, Cuba is the only country that consistently has implanted and embedded spies in our system without even paying them. We had an ambassador, a U.S. ambassador. who ended up being a Cuban spy and was recently convicted. We've had them penetrate the highest levels of Defense Intelligence Agency. Anna Belen-Montes was one of the single biggest intelligence failures on the part of the United States, and one of the biggest penetrations we've ever had in our system. And then on the influence front, if you look all throughout Latin America, every communist left-wing insurgency. He's actually masterful on the Cuba issue. And folks, can you help me? How much time do we have until we're up? Great. Thank you. I appreciate that. Video clip 18 here, honestly, if you think Marco Rubio might be running for office, I don't know. I assume he will at some point. This may be the greatest answer by any elected official of all time. Clip 18. Nothing more relatable than this. Go ahead. Full week off. Without having anyone access you, what would you do? If I had a full week off, I'd be wondering what was going on. I'm being honest. And maybe that'll change when I'm out of this job. But if I could make the world stop for a minute and have nothing going on, I'd love to like, well, my wife's going to hate this answer. But I'd love to sit down and like watch like every college football game starting at noon Eastern until when the West Coast games end at 2 a.m. our time Eastern. I'd love to be able to do that at least one weekend. I doubt I'll be able to do that anytime soon. There is nothing more relatable I've ever heard from any elected official in my entire lifetime at that moment right there. That is the vast majority of every man's dream in this country to do that. Good for you, Marco Rubio. That's my secretary of state. Life moves fast and staying sharp, focused, and clear-headed isn't always easy. That's why the same company that brings a relief factor has developed something new. It's called Think Factor. It's not new to me. I've been taking it for months now. Think Factor is made to help you think clearer, perform better daily. It's a powerful blend of nutrients that unlock mental clarity and precision. They nurture your memory, boost your attention with Think Factor. Brain Power and Performance finally meet for lasting daily results. Supercharge your memory and mental sharpness.

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