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Fox News Sunday 08-02-2026

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Hey, it's Ryan Reynolds here for Mint Mobile. Now, I was looking for fun ways to tell you that Mint's offer of unlimited premium wireless for $15 a month is back. So I thought it would be fun if we made $15 bills. But it turns out that's very illegal. So there goes my big idea for the commercial. Give it a try at mintmobile.com slash switch. Up from payment of $45 for three months, $90 for six months, or $180 for 12-1 plan required, $15 per month equivalent. Taxes and fees extra. Initial plan term only greater than 50 gigabytes may slow when network is busy. See terms. I'm Shannon Breen. The president says a massive strike on Iran is on hold amid hopes the deal to end the conflict may be coming together. While Democrats wrestle with far-left factions inside the party's tents with a major test in Michigan on Tuesday.

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Progressives are winning because we are rallying working people, young people, people who have given up on the political process. We have the energy. What democratic socialism is, is a form of government that puts working class people first, that puts work first. We're running against communists. That is great. What's going on? The Democrat Party at a crossroads as progressive and democratic socialist candidates win in primaries across the country. We'll ask Progressive California Democrat Congressman Rocana, who's backed many of these candidates who's calling the shots for his party. Shannon, it's not always the two parties and their messages that determine the outcome of an election. Sometimes it's the calendar. The ruthless podcast guys join us three months out from Midterm Election Day. Then. President Trump delays military action against Duran saying, quote, the perimeters of a deal have been agreed to. But warns the U.S. remains, quote, locked and loaded. Fox News chief foreign correspondent, Trey Yanks, joins us live on the ground in the Middle East. Plus. All you need is four. to tank the nomination. So you don't have to take your shoes off to count that high. President Trump's pick for Attorney General faces confirmation roadblocks in the Senate at the hands of Republicans and Senate GOP leadership at odds with the president over his list of priorities as they try to hold the Senate. We'll get reaction from Senate Republican Vice Chair James Langford. And. Can you explain to the committee why you chose to fund this dangerous research in China? On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer. Fallout after Anthony Fauci takes the fifth more than 100 times, with some of his fiercest COVID critics now pushing for possible criminal charges. All right now on Fox News Sunday.

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Hello from Fox News in Washington. We begin with a look at some of today's top stories. At least three people are dead and several others injured after a gunman opened fire at an in-and-out burger restaurant in Twin Falls, Idaho, Saturday afternoon. Witnesses say another man pulled out a gun and fired at the shooter who is among the dead. In Washington State, a state of emergency as wildfires force thousands of families to evacuate and the National Guard to be activated. Hundreds of buildings have been destroyed. There are several major wildfires burning across the states. And a severe heat wave is adding to the wildfire risk out west, with temperatures reaching 115 degrees in Las Vegas. The dangerous heat dome ranges from Arizona to Montana. President Trump says Iran and other Middle Eastern countries asked him to delay military action, which he says he will do as long as a deal can be worked out rapidly to open the Strait of Hormuz and end Iran's nuclear threat. We'll get reaction from James Langford, who is on the Senate Intelligence Committee. But first, Fox News chief foreign correspondent, Trey Yingsd, joins us from Tel Aviv. Trey? Shannon, good morning. President Trump says he has canceled a planned attack against Iran with a new deal in sight. Overnight, the president posted to true social in part saying, quote, we have just been asked by Iran and other Middle Eastern countries to hold off any attack in that the perimeters of a deal has been agreed to. This would include the immediate, complete, and total opening of the Hormuz Strait and an end to Iran's nuclear threat. The announcement came as the region braced for the possibility of a widespread U.S. air campaign. with U.S. embassies across the region warning citizens on Saturday to reconsider travel plans and be prepared for potential airspace closures. I don't think the Iranian regime has ever faced the president like President Trump, which is someone that actually takes action. You know, they got used to for 20 or 30 years, not just the U.S., but the broader world, allowing them to get away with things like lying, breaking deals, tricking people into agreements and so forth. Late last week, Iran continued attacks against tankers passing through the Strait of Hormuz. One of the vessels had damage caused to its engine room. At a cabinet meeting at Camp David on Friday, the president described his frustration with the way the Iranians have negotiated while continuing destabilizing activity. I'm losing faith in them because they do lie. And they do misrepresent. Well, the other day, the five missiles were shot. We knocked him down. But we were in the midst of a negotiation. I mean, I'm waiting for Steve to call me. How's the negotiation going? And instead, I got a call from Pete that they just shot five missiles at one of our bases in Jim Jordan. Tension remains high across the region. We've been here before with the possibility of an agreement only to have the talks fall apart. Shannon? All right, Trey Yings from Tel Aviv. We will check in with you a little bit later in the hour. Trey, thank you. Now, here at home, the Senate is just a few days away from its summer recess with major priorities for the president still unresolved. From confirming his attorney general pick to passing the Save America Act, Fox News correspondent Alex Hogan joins us from Bridgewater, New Jersey, near where the president is spending the weekend. Hello, Alex.

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Good morning, Shannon. President Trump calling off those strikes on Iran while here in New Jersey this weekend and taking aim at new domestic challenges. A new ultimatum this weekend, President Trump telling Republicans stalling the Attorney General nomination of Todd Blanche that if he isn't approved, Trump would keep Todd as acting AG and push hard to get the anti-weaponization bill. When just the day before, President Trump told reporters, it is dead, but, you know, I wish it weren't, to be honest with that. Republican senators, John Cornyn of Texas and Thom Tillis of North Carolina want that in writing before voting for Todd Blanche. This week, they delayed the nominations over concerns about the Justice Department's settlement of President Trump's lawsuit against the IRS. The deal included a proposed anti-weaponization fund for people claiming they were politically targeted by the government like January 6th rioters. The deal also included provisions limited. fitting future IRS audits of Trump and family. Thom Tillis this weekend posting, quote, President Trump clearly intends to resurrect the payout pot for punks either by inappropriately establishing another bogus fund or pushing Congress to vote for a bill that the majority of Republicans in the Senate would be against. Another big ticket item on Trump's agenda, the Safe America Act, a group of Republican senators now demanding Senate majority leager, John Thune, cancel recess until the act passes. If we can't get rid of the filibuster, if we can't. require people to do filibuster, then we've got to get it done through reconciliation, which only takes Republican votes. And that's what we're going to work on this week. The SAVE Act would require proof of citizenship when registering to vote. Senator Cory Booker argues that wouldn't have prevented the New Jersey case where 6,600 non-citizens were registered to vote. The state, as the Constitution says, should handle their voting and when there's problems or violations of law, people should be prosecuted. So we're going to handle the problems in New Jersey, but I hate how it's being weaponized by some people to advance. schemes that actually would hurt Americans. This week, the Senate is expected to vote on the government's spending bill, which the House has already passed. This funding bill would fund the government through early December. Shannon. Okay. Alex Hogan in New Jersey, traveling with the president. Alex, thank you. Joining us now, Senator James Langford, part of the Senate Republican leadership team and a member of the Intel Committee. Great to have you with us again, Senator. Good to see again, Chan. Okay, so let's start with Iran. I want to go back to the domestic. Here is what Mark Tyson wrote about the last time we were talking about this last weekend. He says last weekend, as Trump was on the verge of ordering a resumption of major combat, he was told that the Iranians were desperate for a deal. So he paused to give peace a chance. Results, Iran fired five ballistic missiles at a U.S. military base in Jim Jordan. This cycle has repeated for months, like Lucy in the football, Trump keeps getting told that this time the... Iranians are finally ready to make a deal only to be set up for failure yet again. So with that in mind, what do you make of this weekend's pause? Yeah, the president's still focused on trying to be able to get a deal. We're dealing with a terrible regime that every president for the past five decades has tried to be able to resolve. Trump is the only one that's been willing to be able to put this level of pressure on them. to be able to try to get things resolved with Iran. It's a lying deceptive dictatorship in Iran that oppresses its own people and has oppressed the entire region and has attacked Americans at every chance they possibly get. So the president's made it very clear. They can't have a nuclear weapon. They've got to stop their acts of terrorism in the region. They've got to reopen the strait of our moves. Those should not be unrealistic expectations for any civilized nations. Will you refer to them as a lying repressive regime? The president's used that same language. So why trust the...

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that this time around this contours of a peace deal coming together is going to be any different than the previous multiple times, which would have ended again with shots fired in the Strait of Hormuz, that being in some way impeded and no end in sight. Well, we have the capability to be able to bomb them back to the Stone Age, but there's no desire to be able to do that. We use military force, and the president's been very careful in using military force, only to be able to get them to the table to actually negotiate. No one wants to see a war, no one wants to see a conflict. There's a lot of things that go sideways during any kind of conflict like this. So using diplomacy is the best way to be able to resolve it long term, but when you have to use force to get people to do diplomacy, you have to use force. Okay, let's turn to the domestic. Punchbow outlines the situation with Senate GOP leadership and the president this way on Friday. Trump's clashes with Senate Majority Leader John Thune, the president's badgering over the Save America Act and the filibuster, plus a diverging messaging strategy, are supercharging Senate Republicans fears that steep midterm losses could deliver the unthinkable in 2027, a Democratic... Majority. It sounds like you guys are trying to balance with the president would like to see get done. You agree with him on most of those things, but also trying to shield your senators, especially the vulnerable ones in re-election bids against having to take really difficult votes. How do you make everyone happy, can you? Yeah, it's not just difficult votes, is also to get time to be back home with our constituents and get a chance to be able to see people. That's also important as well. We're getting so close to the election. I'm not up for election this time, but it's incredibly important that we get a chance to be able to see those folks and get a chance to be able to talk to them. So things we're trying to get done just this week. We've got a continuing resolution. Make sure we don't have a government shutdown. That'd be terrible to be able to have that. Don't want to have that. We've got 70 plus of... President Trump's nominees that we're working our way through this week as well to get those done. And also the reconciliation bill to set up the first step to be able to deal with not only military funding, funding for agriculture, and what's happening all across the country and farm country, but then also to start that first step through reconciliation to work on the Save America Act. That's very important to us as well. It's a lot this week. If we don't get it done this week, we'll keep going until we do get it done. Well, that's my question. How do you answer critics who say you guys should not be leaving town with so many things unfriended? finished, why not stay here? Yeah. Yeah, there's not a plan to leave when it's unfinished. All those three things, they'll happen this week or we'll keep going to be able to get them done. So the focus is to be able to get them done. Now, the first step on the reconciliation process that the House sent us, that takes weeks to actually process through. You've got to get the first step done once the first step is done. then it takes several weeks to write it, and then to be able to actually take the second step. As odd as it sounds, the first step is broad, and the second step is specific, and we're still working on the language with the house on the specific parts on that. So it'll take some time to be able to get it done. But that first step, we've got to get done before we leave out. Do you foresee the Senate be gone for most of August?

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We'll see. If we can get all of our work done at this point, then yes. Again, we want to be able to see our folks that are up for election back home with people so they can get a chance to be able to campaign. We've got to be able to do two things at once as we are so close to the election now. The worst case scenario is for us to be able to stay all the way through and then we lose the Senate in the days ahead. And then President Trump is dealing with all the impeachment crazy all over again. Okay, so let's talk about Todd Blanche because the president says that's one of his top priorities. He wants the acting AG to become the AG, but he says if not, he's just going to leave him in the acting position. Now, he said when he was asked about this deal that is at the center of the concerns of Senators Thom Tillis and John Cornyn, the weaponization fund, the IRS, you know, some of the... tamping down on what the IRS would do potentially with future audits with the president, his sons, and the Trump administration or Trump organization. He said that that deal was dead on Friday. And then we saw that there was a notice of appeal of a decision by a federal judge to actually block that settlement, seeming like the administration does in some way want to keep that settlement viable or alive. Where does that leave you with these concerns in the Senate about where that fund stands? Yeah, it's been interesting just to be able to walk through this. President Trump by far has been the most attacked former president when he was. Not president a couple of years ago now. He was attacked over and over and over again. He's wanting that to stop, to have just useless attacks on him and on his family. He knows this will continue forever unless he has some way to be able to get some resolution on this. And so it's not wrong to try to say we want to try to get resolution and stop the weaponization and all the lawfare that's happening. The challenge is how to be able to get that done. When the settlement came out, there was initial pushback on it from all sides to say. hey, give us some additional information on this. How does this work? What does this look like? Obviously, the court challenged it as well. And so Todd Blanche came out and said, hey, it's dead. The president came out last week and said, hey, it's dead. But it doesn't sound like it is now. The president does want to get resolution on this. I mean, it sounds like it's going to keep. I think what I'm what. Right, right. What I'm here in the president say is you want some way to be able to resolve this. There's already something called the judgment fund that is already out there sitting there that is used by the treasury all the time. That judgment fund, for instance, during the Biden administration, when the FBI went after folks and went into their savings deposit boxes and were illegally searching through those, they were able to go get justice. For the folks that are Navy seals that were kicked out of the Navy because they had religious reasons and not. take the vaccine. They were kicked out of the Navy. They were able to go to the judgment fund and were able to get justice out of that. So there is a process already in place for weaponization. And so there's just some confusion why that is not the normal process people are going through it. Okay. So just quickly before we go, the president said yesterday on social media, I will keep Todd as acting AG and push hard to get the anti-weaponization and bill passed. It will immediately be back on the table and I will get it done to which Dan Pfeiffer, who was a senior advisor for Obama, says this. I hope Trump makes

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them vote on his taxpayer funded slush fund for political cronies and those who assault police every day from now until the election never stop. What kind of position would that put you in to have to vote on that package? Yeah, we don't know what that would actually be. There is no weaponization bill that's out there. This was a settlement agreement the president made with the Department of Justice. So we don't know what that is. I would tell you, I do hope the folks that were oppressed by the Biden administration do get justice. And there is a way to do that through the judgment fund. We want them to continue to be able to pursue it and to be able to get justice. If there's any tweaks that we need to be able to make to that, let's make it. Let's do it. But we need to actually make sure those folks do get justice. But let's do it the way that is the most transparent way possible. All right, Senator Langford, always appreciate your time. You bet. Good to see again. You too. Okay, later on, we're going to hear across the aisle from California Democrat Congressman Ro Khanna about his party's debate about how to handle a far-left faction now under its banner. But first, a preview of the pivotal Michigan primary and a look at some brand new Fox News polls and critical battleground states with the guys of the ruthless podcast. In our polling, we asked in Texas what's the biggest issue for you. And like most voters right now, it's inflation and prices. Inflation is front and center.

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I don't like Syed's chances in a general election in Michigan. I don't think a suburban mom in Oakland County looks at him as the future of their party. Well, it's an open primary there, as we have talked about. So regardless of party registration, you can vote in this Democrat primary on Tuesday. And I've talked to folks in Michigan who are Republican voters who are considering voting for Abdul El-Sayed in the effort that they think he's going to be a better matchup for them against Mike Rogers. But can he win in the general? Would you completely rule that out? Or should Republicans be worried about that, too? Shannon, it's not always the two parties and their messages that determine the outcome of an election. Sometimes it's the calendar. And in the case of Michigan, you have a primary that is very, very late in the cycle now in August, and it's very competitive. These two Democrats have spent millions just crushing each other for months. And El-Sayed is probably going to win that primary. And he comes away with 80% plus name ID in the state. And his unfavorables are... way outstripping his favorable simply because Chuck Schumer and Democrats have run negative advertising against him. It's very, very difficult to flip that sort of image with the amount of clock he has remaining Republicans still have not spent groups like SLF. They're going to come in like a trip hammer. The second that this guy has declared the nominee and they're going to start running their advertising to make sure that the 20%, 15% of Michigan voters who aren't already familiar with him are. familiar with him on their terms. Yeah, and as we've talked about, the Supreme Court's recent decision on parties coordinating spending with candidates is going to make a big difference with the DNC so far on the whole and the RNC, you know, flush essentially with cash. Now, I want to make sure I get around the horn with you guys on Texas as well, because we've got pulling out this week that has James Talarico, the Democrat, up by three points. And then when you look to those who are extremely motivated, John, he goes to a plus six. And we know that Democrats are way more motivated in this election cycle. They are motivated. but it's Texas, and this guy has big, big problems. We talked about, like, candidate definition. The Republican groups who are going in to define this guy on television over the next 100 days, less than 100 days now, will do so in a way that this guy is not going to be able to get out of. And I think that Ken Paxton walks away as a winner because this is a Republican state where people turn out to vote for Republicans. Okay, some reaction from the camps. Ken Paxton's camp says, Poll that matters November 3rd, a line that we hear when you're pulling does not look good. He says his actual record is going to sink him in Texas. The James Talarico Camp says this. Texas will choose the preacher over the pedophile protector, Duncan. I think this is another situation similar to Michigan or to Maine, where the greatest silver lining for Republicans right now is the recruitment efforts of Chuck Schumer. I mean, if they picked a candidate like a Colin Allred, former football player from the Dallas suburbs where there has been a switch in the Trump era for former Republicans pulling the lever for Democrats.

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I would believe a poll like this, that this would be a competitive race. But I think at the end of the day, when the voters of Texas know the record of James Talarico, it's not going to be. Well, another interesting thing in our polling, we asked in Texas, what's the biggest issue for you? And like most voters right now, it's inflation and prices. And that's now double when it comes to how much you care about the border in Texas, which now that the president has sort of taken his steps to make a change there. Texas does not, the border is not their number one issue. It's not immigration. It's these pricing issues that Republicans seem to be struggling with some messaging on that. Yeah. I mean, it's tough being the victim of success in that. And President Trump came in. He closed the border. The border crisis is over. But it's difficult to connect with voters being like, look, your problem is solved. I need your vote again. They're like, okay, well, that's already taken care of. That's in the rearview mirror. Inflation is front and center, and I think the Iran situation needs to get fixed as soon as possible. I would hate for it to be September and gas prices be high at the pump. The situation in the Strait of Hormuz needs to be figured out. We have American energy dominance. We need to do as much as possible to tell that story, but it starts with making sure that prices are down at the pump. Yeah, and people start paying attention again when kids are back into school after Labor Day. But it doesn't leave you a lot of time because there are some places that vote in September. No, very true. But I think this whole thing, when you look at all of these states, we talk a little bit about Maine, Michigan, Texas is another one, and there are others out there. The over... saturation of Democratic candidates this cycle that just flat don't identify with an electorate at all is a real problem. Republicans went through this 10, 15 years ago where you had a ton of enthusiasm and midterms where all the political environmental factors went your way. But if you don't have a candidate that can connect to an electorate, you're going to come up short. Do I think that they have a good midterm? angle at this. Yes. Do I think Democrats are going to have a good day? Yeah, but I think they're going to leave an awful lot on the field because of the Tala Ricos, the El-Sayeds, and what, Troy Jackson, they got now in Maine. I mean, this has been a real reoccurring problem for them and one that you can't fix this late in the game. Well, we will reconvene soon to see how all of these primaries have gone and how you're feeling about the fall as we inch, just, you know, 90-plus days to the midterms. Guys, thank you always for your time. Thank you. Thank you so much. All right, thanks to the guys over there at Ruthless, Ruthless podcast. We're going to get reaction from Democratic Congressman Rocana. He's backing some of the most progressive candidates in these midterms, and he's live with us next. Hey, it's Ryan Reynolds here for Mint Mobile. Now, I was looking for fun ways to tell you that Mint's offer of unlimited premium wireless for $15 a month is back. So I thought it would be fun if we made $15 bills. But it turns out, That's very illegal. So there goes my big idea for the commercial. Give it a try at mintmobile.com slash switch. Up from payment of $45 for three months, $90 for six months or $180 for $12.1 plan required $15 per month equivalent. Taxes and fees extra. Initial term only greater than 50 gigabytes may slow when network is busy. See terms. So should Van Jay Jones and Rahm Emanuel and James Carvel and all of the establishment Democrats be worried about DSA plans from within their tent? The...

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Establishment Democrats should be worried about the voters and about what the voters think and about what the constituency thinks. And right now, right now they have not been delivering and our candidates are and have been. And it's resonating with voters. That was DSA National Co-chair, Megan Romer, with us last week on Fox News Sunday. So as Democratic Socialists continue to score wins within the Democrat Party, they're growing questions about whether their radical ideas have a place inside the bigger party tent. Congressman Rocana has endorsed some of his party's most progressive candidates, not all DSA, but he joins us now to talk about the party's internal debate. Congressman, welcome back. Thank you. Okay, so you're out there on the trail with some of the more progressive folks. You describe yourself as very progressive, not DSA, but there are people winning your party primaries with that platform. Where is that inconsistent with the Democrat Party? Can they fit within your tent? I'll tell you why they're winning. People are upset at an unfair political and economic system. They can't afford gas. They can't afford food. Young people can't afford to buy a home or get a job. But what I've said, I've called it economic patriotism, that we need a future economy delivering prosperity for every American and every community, not just enriching billionaires in a few places. And America's next new deal. And that's I call myself an FDR Democrat. And I think that's a big tent that can actually bring change in this country. So when you have people who are for abolishing the Senate, the Supreme Court, our borders, ICE, enforcement of immigration laws, that's something you're comfortable with as a Democrat, them running under. your banner? Well, I point out that I am for secure borders. Obviously, I believe in the Supreme Court. Now, I'm for term limits on Supreme Court justices 18 years. I am for the Senate, but I don't think we should have the filibuster. Frankly, that's a position that some Republicans are for. I'm for term limits on members of Congress and senators. I'm for getting rid of... PAC money, super PAC money for a constitutional amendment to ban big money in politics. So we need reform, but I love the Constitution. I mean, I was born in Philadelphia in 1976, and I revere our Declaration of Independence and our Constitution. So when they talk about no borders and no jails, that's not something that aligns with where you're at or the party more broadly. Absolutely not. Of course we need borders. A nation needs borders. A nation needs secure borders. As a son of immigrants, I say that my father came. He came on a student visa to the University of Michigan. They got a green card. I was born in Philadelphia in 1976. We have a process in this country. And of course, we need...

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Now, we should have a debate about mass incarceration. I don't think we should just be putting people with marijuana convictions into jail for mandatory minimums. But of course, if someone commits murder, if someone commits armed robbery, they belong in jail. Okay, let's turn to Michigan. That's the big Democratic primary there this week. You have been backing and endorsing supporting Abdul El-Sayed there. He says he's not DSA. He has been involved with some of their events in the past, but he does describe himself as progressive. But he struggled with the question of whether Israel has a right to exist. The Atlantic writing this about him, his combination of populism and anti-Zionism has introduced a strain of political rhetoric that here to four has had little place within the Democratic Party. informing your supporters that their problems are the result of a shadowy cabal of billionaire billionaire conspirators tends to unleash passions that can be difficult to control. Your party is grappling with accusations of anti-Semitism from statements, from candidates. What is your message to American Jewish voters about what they can expect from your party? First, I'll tell you while Abdul is winning. He's winning because he's for... free health care for Americans and Medicare for all. He's winning because he doesn't believe in money in politics and these super PACs that are spending millions of dollars. And he's winning because he thinks that billionaires in places like my district should be paying fair tax, just like teachers and nurses pay. But I've always said that I believe in the right of Israel to exist as a Jewish democratic state. I have been unequivocal in condemning anti-Semitism. People disagree with me because I've also said I believe in a Palestinian... state, and I believe that there's occupation in the West Bank in Gaza, and they disagree with that. But I believe there should be a Palestinian state with a secure Israel state and no place for any anti-Semitism. So the Atlantic is also referred to him as under this headline, the anti-democrat. They say you won't find a much harsher critic of the Democratic Party than the progressive trying to secure its nomination for Senate in Michigan. Abdul El-Sayed. There are a lot of people running within the framework of the Democratic Party, but some of them seem like they want to take down the party from inside. How does that work with your role as a voice within the Democrat Party? And these people who say essentially they want to use the framework, the resources, the voter polls, or whatever else that the Democrat Party can offer them, but they don't actually want the party to continue as it now exists. The Democratic Party needs reform. Look, this is a party that hasn't delivered enough for working class Americans. We shouldn't have supported NAFTA. We shouldn't have supported China into the World Trade Organization. We shouldn't have watched wealth pile up and... Wall Street and Silicon Valley while unions were decimated. And what people are saying is we've got to get back toward FDR roots. We need to be a party that is for the working class. We need to be a party that has economic prosperity across this country for every American. And we need a new bold economic vision.

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I think the reform is good as long as it is for ordinary Americans who have been shafted in the current economy. So let's talk about some of those ordinary Americans in the context of New York City, where you've supported the Zohran Mamdani, and he is unabashedly DSA. But he's got these new grocery stores that are going to roll out with all kinds of taxpayer funding and government guarantees. The National Review says this. Far from a public service, the city-owned grocery stores are perfectly designed to transfer wealth from public into private pockets. specifically into those of resellers because people can show up at a discount, no ban on them reselling that stuff, shoplifters and opportunistic operators. And of course, the bureaucrats paid to supervise this project. And they note as many people do that the pride of New York City, these bodegas, these mom-and-pop restaurants and little stores and places that are often started by immigrants to this country, they may be absolutely destroyed by this grocery idea. Shannon, these grocery stores are often in food deserts where people don't have access to groceries and where they're paying too much. Let me tell you what's actually hurting and shafting and stealing from ordinary Americans. There's war in Iran that has led to huge increases in grocery prices because farmers can't get the fertilizer and that has really like to huge increase in gas prices. And what's stealing from working class Americans is these tax breaks to billionaires. They don't need the tax breaks. Why aren't we focused on? on increasing the living wage and focusing on the working class. So regardless of where you stand for grocery stores and food deserts, that's not why people are hurting in this country. Well, we're hearing from a lot of those folks who are worried about their survival in places like New York City. We'll track it. It will take time to roll those things out. In the meantime, we'll catch up with you on the campaign trail again. Congressman, thanks for your time. Shannon, thank you. So a heated hearing on Capitol Hill, Dr. Anthony Fauci in the hot seat, taking the fifth more than a hundred times. As Senator Rand Paul now is vowing contempt of Congress charges, he says they're coming. But what options do Republicans really have? Will they follow through? We'll outline that with our Sunday panel. They're next. Dr. Anthony Fauci, do you regret the way you handled the hearing pleading the fifth so much?

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I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution. I absolutely think we can hold them in contempt. I believe we will. I look forward to casting that vote. I will be ashamed if a committee of the United States Senate approves any kind of contempt citation. From revealing diary entries to an email trail, tracing what Dr. Anthony Fauci knew and when. An effort to get answers from the man himself was unsuccessful in this week's Senate Homeland Security Committee hearing. So is at the end of the story or just the beginning? Let's talk about it with our Sunday group. Wall Street Journal White House reporter Annie Lindski. Former State Department spokesperson Marie Harf. Resident Fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, Mark Dyson, and former Bush National Security Official, Michael Allen. Welcome to all of you. Okay, so Mike Davis, conservative guy, founder of the Article III project, he writes this. His invocation of the fifth, despite a federal pardon itself. He says that's grounds for contempt citation. Congress should cite him for contempt. The Trump Justice Department should seek an indictment and add an obstruction of Congress charge, forcing Anthony Fauci to justify his invocation in light of his pardon. Mark. I agree with all that. I don't know how you can justify invoking the Fifth when you've been immunized by a pardon. I don't think there are votes in Congress to have contempt. Maybe the Justice Department will indict him. But I'll tell you, Brigham made a great point, which is that this is a man who relishes his reputation. He relishes being a hero in the public spotlight. If you just look at his diaries, it's all about how, look, how famous I am, as opposed to the lives he destroyed through his policies. And that hearing... must have been excruciating for him. He looked absolutely miserable because his reputation, his crimes against this country were being exposed for the American people and he couldn't answer or chose not to answer. I think that hearing in and of itself was great punishment for him. Well, Marie, given how much power he had to effectuate the things that happened during COVID, does he owe the American people more of an answer about these emails that seemed to suggest he knew it wasn't the market that was actually the source of, you know, the generation of the virus, all of these different kinds of things. Does he owe that to all of us, regardless of party? Well, look, I think Dr. Anthony Fauci is far from perfect, certainly. And we do have questions about where this pandemic started in large part to prevent the next one from happening. I do also think that this right-wing obsession with him is bordering on unhinged. He is a lifelong public servant who was trying to protect the American people with a new virus we didn't know much about, and he was doing that with incomplete information every day. And I will say, you know, we now have data that in the parts of the country that were the reddest, the most pro-Trump, they had 70,000 more COVID deaths than the most pro-Biden parts because the Republican establishment was saying, don't mask, don't vaccinate, they were undercutting.

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Anthony Fauci and his medical guidance. And for me, Shannon, I don't know why Congress isn't focusing on the fact that when public health issues come up today, it's because we have more measles cases than any time in the last 35 years. We have this outbreak of lettuce-borne virus that's making people incredibly sick. Why are they not focused on that and focused on this political campaign against Anthony Fauci, who Donald Trump gave a presidential commendation to because he thought he did such a good job. office. So why now? Well, I will say that the president was one of the first people to get vaccinated, was telling everybody out there to get vaccinated. So, I mean, at the moment, I mean, he was certainly backing the science. But a lot of Republican leaders changed their tune. Ron DeSantis, others now, if you ask Republican leaders about vaccinations, they are undercutting the science on this every single day. The most by Anthony Fauci's policies were blue state. black and Latino kids who are kept out of school disproportionately by Anthony Fauci's policies who now have learning losses that will carry, they will carry with them for the rest of their lives, who lost their lives because Republicans refused to accept the science. The science, what science? The science that we had to keep, six feet distancing, which was a lie, the science that we had to keep kids out of school when they were not. But again, let's bring some others into this. There are things that we have since learned. We're not. recommendations that were not based on science. Because as you said, at the time, there was a lot we didn't know. But there are questions now about what we did know and did not. Well, you asked, do the American people deserve explanations? And the answer is absolutely. I mean, pledging the fifth looked terrible. But set that aside for a moment. One of the reasons the American people don't trust experts and have great distrust for institutions is because leaders don't seem willing to make mistakes. By the way, I think the American people accept it when someone says, you know what? That's what I thought then. Here's what it was based on. My views have evolved. That's the real tragedy of him not testifying the other day, is that we need to hear, have your answers evolved about whether China might have accidentally had a lab leak. Were you too aggressive on shutting down schools? And did you accidentally? I don't think you meant to fund... coronavirus research, gain of function that eventually evolved into what the problem was. But somebody's got to explain this to the American people. We need to try and depoliticize this issue going forward and stonewalling and not... being realistic about it is unhelpful. Well, and now they move forward potentially in the committee next week, Homeland Security Committee, in the Senate with the contempt citation. And there's a big debate about where it goes from there and whether the full Senate would ever get behind this. Yeah. I mean, the other aspect here, too, is that state's attorneys general are beginning to open their own investigation. And of course, the federal pardon that Biden granted is not going to be helpful in a state. with state law. But I do think it's an important point that this, look, there's going to be another pandemic. Like, this is not the last time this is going to happen. And it is really important, I think, to take the temperature down on this. And we do need to learn best practices. We do need to learn and know, you know, the cause. We need to know what went right and what went wrong because...

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You know, we live in a world where this could very well happen again, and it best be prepared for that. Yeah, too soon. None of us have, or we're having flashbacks this week with the fountain hearings. You do not want to go back there. Something else that got a lot of eyeballs in interest this week were these images out of Spain where there was a massive overrun of tens of thousands of people showing up at the border there. We've all seen this this week. Here's what the president had to say about that potentially playing out here. It looks like an invasion of a country by hundreds of thousands of people. And that same thing is going to happen to us if the Republicans don't get elected, except worse. If we're not in office, our country will be invaded at levels that made Spain look small time. And I just want to remind you a little bit of my interview with DSA co-chair Megan Romer last week, not speaking for Democrats, but for people who are now within the Democrat Party. Here's what she said. abolish borders and give amnesty to anyone currently in the U.S. illegally? As a long-term plan, yep. So abolish ICE. Would there be any enforcement of immigration laws or with abolishing the border, there's, we're not enforcing immigration laws. They go away. Yeah, so again, this is part of this longer-term plan. And part of it includes, think, yeah. So, Annie, this conversation's not going away. And the president enjoys making this point. Yes. Yes. Yes, he does. I mean, look, if you take a step back, the president has been underwater on immigration. And there has been a backlash to his policies on ice. And I think that this is a moment where Democrats can look at, you know, you can go a little too far with this backlash. President Trump is in office. partially because of his immigration policies and his rhetoric on immigration. And this is a moment for Democrats in particular to see how you have a socialist government in Spain that is cracking down on this kind of migration. And when Democrats are... criticizing ICE, talking about defunding ICE again, that can become problematic. Yeah, quickly, Michael, to finish this out, we don't have those images now at the U.S. border. Yeah, and I think that explains why maybe Trump's numbers are a little bit down on immigration because they're not tens of thousands of people coming across the border. It was something, as you noted, that people wanted him in office to handle. And for the most part, it's been handled. All right, panel. Thank you. We'll see you next Sunday. President Trump says the U.S. is locked and loaded when it comes to the potential for a massive attack on Iran. But it's on pause for now. We'll talk to Trey Yanks about that live. Coming up next.

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The way God wired us is to call our attention to things that need to change because of the way God made me. I'm afraid to cross a highway or play with a rattlesnake. That's just the way God made me. And so fear is that alarm system that alerts us to potential trouble. Now, the problem is sometimes that alarm system doesn't go off. And it just keeps ringing. It just keeps ringing. It keeps ringing. And that's when we really, really face a challenge. And that's when we really need this unbreakable courage, learning to, you know, dig deeper in finding faith. Here's what I like to tell folks. Courage is not the absence of fear. Courage is learning to face your fears with faith. You can watch my entire conversation with Max Lucado, a call to Unbreakable Courage. He is the most encouraging person, I know, anytime you want on the Fox Nation streaming service. That is it for us today. Thank you for joining us. I'm Shannon Bream. Have a safe week. We'll see you next. Fox News Sunday. Listen to Fox News Sunday, ad-free on Amazon Music with your prime membership or subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.