Why Elon Musk Is Getting Back Into U.S. Politics
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34 segmentsThis podcast is brought to you by ReliaQuest. Cybercriminals are constantly attacking. They want your data. They want your identity. They want your innovation. RelyQuest fortifies your business with agentic defense, AI that detects, contains, and eliminates cyber threats in minutes. It helps your security team move faster at the work that matters most to protect the business now and delivers insights to help them predict what's next. RelyaQuest. Agentic Defense for the Enterprise. Learn more at ReliQuest.com. That's R-E-L-I-A-Q-U-E-S-T.com. Elon Musk is back in U.S. politics. Elon Musk is focused on converting Trump voters, some of whom only show up to vote for Trump in the presidential election, into voters for the midterms and down-ballot races. Plus, Intel stock sells off after the chipmaker posted a loss and predicted another one this quarter. And would you watch along as a world famous rock climber scales a skyscraper with no ropes? Netflix is betting on it. It's Friday, January 23rd. I'm Alex Oslov for the Wall Street Journal. This is the PM edition of What's News, the top headlines and business stories that move the world today.
Intel's shares slid after its fourth quarter report, which showed that the chipmaker's turnaround is still a work in progress. It projected a loss for the current quarter as it spends heavily to produce more of its latest chips. It's also contending with an inventory shortage that makes it challenging for Intel to capitalize on demand for the latest data center servers that use its chips. Intel stock has more than doubled in the last six months, with investors expecting higher sales of those chips. Today, the stock fell 17%. Elsewhere in markets, the major stock indexes went in different directions with the Dow dropping 0.6% while the S&P was nearly unchanged and the NASDAQ gained. Gold and silver futures hit their latest highs with gold closing in on $5,000 a Troy ounce and silver closing above $100 an ounce for the first time. And forecasts for cold, snowy winter weather continued sending natural gas prices higher. We're exclusively reporting that the Justice Department is investigating an alleged spy operation by Silicon Valley startup deal into a rival company, Rippling. That's according to documents viewed by the Wall Street Journal and people familiar with the matter. Rippling filed a complaint last year saying one of its employees stole trade secrets for deal, an HR company valued at around $17 billion. A Rippling employee in Ireland has said in an affidavit that deal recruited him to spy on Rippling. A deal spokeswoman said today the company isn't aware of a criminal investigation but is willing to cooperate with authorities. It's a midterm year and Elon Musk is signaling a return to U.S. politics. He's already donated $10 million toward a Republican Senate candidate in Kentucky this year. For more on What's Driving Elon Musk, I'm joined now by WSJ Enterprise reporter Emily Glazer. Emily Elon Musk spent nearly $300 million to help get Trump and Republicans elected in 2024. He was the biggest political donor that we know about in the country. Then he stepped back. There was a big backlash to the Doge government cost-cutting effort that he championed. He had that falling out with Trump in the summer. And then he told investors he was going to focus on Tesla. So what's brought him back into politics? What we've learned is that his political apparatus has been activated. There are some early meetings with different types of vendors. And as you mentioned, Elon Musk has given $10 million toward a Kentucky Senate candidate. Nate Morris has ties to Vice President JD Vance. We know that VP JD Vance has kept in touch with Elon Musk about supporting Republicans, especially in the hopes that they could keep that. majority in the House and the Senate, which is often really hard to maintain for a president's party. Our understanding from our sources is that Elon Musk is focused on converting Trump voters, some of whom only show up to vote for Trump in the presidential election, into voters for the midterms and down ballot races. And this is a mutually beneficial relationship. Elon Musk continues to have a way to influence the administration. So. It is back on, even though many really thought he was totally done. You mentioned that Elon Musk has kept in touch with JD Vance. Where does Elon Musk's relationship stand with Trump? So the two of them were really going at it quite publicly and called each other names frequently last year. But toward the end of last year, things began to thaw a little bit. There was a big turning point around September at the conservative activist Charlie Kirk's funeral.
Elon Musk and Trump sat in the same box. Our sources say that they spoke at length there. And from there, the two began to meet more, talk more, including as recently as a dinner this month that Elon Musk had with President Trump and First Lady Melania Trump, which he did post a photo about on X. You know, I'm glad you brought up X because we've seen a lot of the issues that Elon Musk cares about come through in his posts on X. He posts about culture war issues, including opposing medical treatment for transgender children. What kinds of issues can we see Elon Musk back possibly for the midterms? Elon Musk owns X now and he uses it. to amplify his points. He's posted a lot more recently about a vision for a leaner U.S. government. He is very big on cutting federal spending, deregulation, and proof of citizenship mandates at the polls. He recently backed that, and it's something that President Trump has been a backer of as well. What does his involvement mean for these races? What was his track record? Well, it doesn't always mean they win. Elon Musk made a huge investment in a Wisconsin Supreme Court race in 2025 that did not pay off. And instead, there was a victory by a liberal judge. That was WSJ Enterprise reporter, Emily Glazer. Thanks, Emily. Thank you. The White House didn't comment and Elon Musk didn't reply to requests for comment. Coming up, why the U.S. government wants you to drink less diet soda. Let's have to the break.
This podcast is brought to you by ReliQuest. Cybercriminals are constantly attacking. They want your data. They want your identity. They want your innovation. RelyQuest fortifies your business with agentic defense, AI that detects, contains, and eliminate cyber threats in minutes. It helps your security team move faster at the work that matters most to protect the business now and delivers insights to help them predict what's next. RelyaQuest. Agentic Defense for the Enterprise. Learn more at ReliQuest.com. That's R-E-L-I-A-Q-U-E-S-T.com. We've been talking on the show in recent weeks about the government's new dietary guidelines. One longstanding recommendation is for Americans to limit their intake of sugary drinks. Now the guidelines say consumers should ditch artificial sweeteners, too. Think aspartame and sucralose. That's a blow to U.S. food and beverage makers, which for decades have used artificial sweeteners to cut down on sugar. Laura Cooper, who covers beverage companies for the journal, is here to discuss. Laura, where might have listeners encountered these artificial sweeteners before? I mean, like when I hear Aspartame, the first thing that comes to mind for me is Diet Coke, but I'm sure that's not the only place. Definitely not the only place. It's in a lot of beverages. It's in energy drinks. It's in soda. It's in low or zero sugar iced teas. It's also in food. It's also in gum, for instance. So it's widely used and you could encounter it, especially if you see a diet or a zero sugar. branding, then there's likely to be one of these sweeteners, though not 100%. Food and beverage companies have been using these artificial sweeteners for years. But some of these beverage companies are already struggling now as consumer habits are changing, like they're shifting away from traditional soda. So what does this aspect of the new dietary guidelines mean for these companies? I mean, will the food company shift to more natural sweeteners now? It's hard to say. I don't know. Coca-Cola PepsiCo and Kurek, Dr. Pepper, declined to speak to me for this story. What I will say is that... The soda companies have worked for a very long time to move away from sugar, and this was what they were using to do that. I don't anticipate that diet or zero sugar offerings will go away. They're very much a big part of business, and people really love them. That was WSJ reporter, Laura Cooper. Thanks, Laura. Thanks, Alex. Researchers are trying to get a better handle on the health effects of artificial sweeteners. Some large studies show a connection between them and certain health problems, while other studies don't find any links to health problems. The beverage industry says the alternative sweeteners are safe.
South Korea has put into place strict laws around artificial intelligence, saying it's the first government in the world to do so. The rules require disclosures for when companies use AI for a range of activities, from screening loan applicants to managing nuclear facilities. They also require labels for AI-generated content. Violations can result in fines of up to $30 million or more than $20,000. And the French Navy has seized a ship carrying Russian oil in the Mediterranean. French President Emmanuel Macron posted on X after the operation that the tanker was coming from Russia, was, quote, subject to international sanctions and suspected of flying a false flag. It's a signal of Western country's more aggressive approach to the smuggling network of more than 1,000 ships that move sanctioned oil around the world. And finally, you may have heard of world-renowned climber Alex Honnold. He starred in the 2018 documentary Free Solo, where he scaled Yosemite's El Capitan without ropes. Now, he's ascending the more than 1,600 foot tall Taipei 101 Tower in Taiwan, again, with no safety gear. And he's doing it live on Netflix. As you can hear in this clip from a trailer, he's playing it cool about the dangers involved. No matter how much you prepare, occasionally things just happen, if you fall.
You're going to die. WSJ reporter Ellen Gamerman covers arts and culture for the journal and says Honnold is known for daredevil pursuits. He's built differently than most of us. Like literally, they've looked at MRIs of his brain and he is very slow to have a fear response. He's done trial runs with ropes on the actual building. He's known for his meticulous preparation. And he's also got fierce powers of concentration. Netflix is streaming the climb during primetime TV hours in the U.S. Netflix is going for these kind of prestige reality live stream moments. They've had a couple of Jake Paul boxing matches. They had the live roast of Tom Brady, which of course really took off culturally and got a big audience. And so I think they're trying to do more of this. They really went for the morbid curiosity. this can't look away kind of instinct, and they're hoping that that pays off for them with the climb. Personally, I don't think I have the stomach to watch, but what do you think of Netflix live streaming his climb? Let us know in the Spotify comments. And that's What's News for this week. Tomorrow, you can look out for our weekly markets wrap-up, What's News and Markets. Then on Sunday, we'll be discussing how immigration officer's authority has changed under President Trump. That's in What's News Sunday. And we'll be back with our regular show on Monday morning. Today's show is produced by Pierre Bienname, with supervising producer Tali Arbell. Michael LaValle wrote our theme music. Jessica Fenton is our technical manager. Aisha al-Muslim is our development producer. Chris Zinsley is our deputy editor, and Falana Patterson is the Wall Street Journal's head of news audio. I'm Alex Osala. Thanks for listening.
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