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Good evening from New York. I'm Chris Hayes. You know, for the last few years, Donald Trump has been desperate to win the Nobel Peace Prize. You've probably noticed this. It's been odd, really, not just because he'd done nothing to deserve a Nobel Peace Prize. It just seems to be a thing he wants. It's like a bucket list sort of thing. Like being named Time Magazine's person a year or getting his name in the Guinness Book of World Records. And of course, because Obama got one. Well, they should give me the Nobel Prize for Rwanda and have you looked to Congo or you could say Serbia, Kosovo, you could say a lot of them. When Obama got it, here the headlines, President Obama gets the Nobel Prize. I think I'm going to get a Nobel Prize for a lot of things because they gave it unfairly, which they don't. And despite a really thirsty and cringe-worthy for-year consideration campaign this year, the president who was killing people in boats in the Caribbean and bombing Iran, unleashing troops and secret police in his own cities, did not win the no-lil peace fries for some reason. So all of this was the backdrop for... A truly sad and absurd spectacle today. As leaders of FIFA, the historically, almost comically corrupt organization that oversees the Soccer World Cup, traveled to Washington to announce the matchups for next year's competition here in North America. But they rolled out something new this time. The first ever inaugural FIFA Peace Prize. It's a major award. A massive gold trophy, similar to the ones they give out to actual World Cup champions, but this one is truly one of a kind. And FIFA turned today's event into a special red carpet ceremony to present that prize to its very first recipient. Can you guess who it was? Please welcome the very first winner of the FIFA Peace Prize, the 45th and 47 President of the United States of America, Mr. Donald J. Trump. Please.
Mr. President, this is your price. This is your peace prize. There is also a beautiful medal for you that you can wear everywhere you want to go. I'm going to wear it right now. Okay. Let me hold. Fantastic. Excellent. Excellent. I just want to thank everybody. The world is a safer place now. The United States one year ago was not doing too well. And now I have to say we're the hottest country anywhere in the world that we're going to keep it that way. Thank you all. Thank you. Have a great time. And Johnny, a tremendous honor. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, President. Thank you so much. Now, if you asked Donald Trump to describe his perfect day, it might have gone something like this. He got a consolation peace prize ceremony, complete with a trophy, and a medal, let's not forget, and a certificate, and even got to dance. And everyone said he deserved the hard-earned peace prize. Well, except for that one question from that one reporter. You're expected to get the FIFA Peace Prize, Mr. President. What would you say to people who say that prize might conflict with your pledge to strike Venezuela? Well, I think the Peace Prize, I mean, I settled eight wars. I don't know that I'm getting it. I haven't been officially noticed. I've been hearing about a Peace Prize, and I'm here to represent our country in a different sense. Oh, me? Little Peace Prize for me? I'm pretty sure he knew he was getting the prize. This comes after his State Department this week glued Donald J. Trump on the U.S. Institute of Peace Building, a building that Doge basically did a hostile takeover of back when the administration started and kicked everyone out of the building and then essentially tried to dismantle earlier this year. Secretary of State Marco Rubio made the announcement, quote, President Trump will be remembered by history as a president of peace. It's time our State Department display that. All this is one of the most bizarre, cringy spectacles of the entire Trump presidency, which is saying something. And as that reporter pointed out, it feels even more dystopian and even creepy because it is all happening as Donald Trump is conducting a sustained campaign of extrajudicial killings on the high seas threatening war in Venezuela. He is currently asserting the right to execute whomever he wants at any time, anywhere, by just labeling them a narco-terrorist. And as Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth is openly boasting on social media about waging new deadly attacks. Yesterday, a spokesman for the right-wing nonprofit Turning Point USA posted, quote, Every new attack aimed at Pete Hegseth makes me want another narco drug boat blown up and sent to the bottom of the ocean. Three hours later, Pete Hegseth replied, quote, Your Wishes Our Command, Andrew, just sunk another narco boat, as if killing strangers on a boat is just a solid social media troll. As we've seen before, the Trump administration loves posting videos of those boat strikes in social media like they are big wins, but they still have not released the full video of their first attack on the boat in question from back in September, the one that multiple viewers and reports say show the U.S. military committing an obvious war crime blowing up two survivors of the initial strike as they floated in the Caribbean.
Some Republican Hawks who have seen the video try to downplay it. Like Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas yesterday called the killings of those two survivors, righteous strikes, suggested they were somehow trying to contact fellow narco terrorists and complete the narco mission, claims he was forced to kind of soften today. Did you see any evidence of them trying to use a radio in the video you saw? Well, I saw lots of evidence of them standing on the boat that had been capsized. That wasn't my question. Did you see any evidence? Trying to get it back up, trying to flip it over. Did you see any evidence of them trying to use a radio? No, I didn't, John, but they were clearly not incapacitated. They were not distressed. One guy took his t-shirt off like he was sunbathing. They were trying to get the boat back up and to continue their mission of spreading these drugs all across America. Yeah, it's probably, he was probably, what do you think? After his shift got blown up, you think he was probably sunbathing? Does that sound like what was probably happening? Contrary to Cotton's account, two sources tell CNN today that the boat in question was headed from Venezuela to meet with a larger vessel bound for the small South American country of Suriname. As you can see from this map, Suriname is in the opposite direction from the United States. Today, the New York Times reports, the video showed those survivors waving before they were killed. Quote, some of the people viewing the video thought the waving by the survivors could have been an attempt to surrender, which could raise questions about whether the military had violated the rules of armed conflict during the operation. Now, releasing the video sure could help clear things up. The MAGA account seems far-fetched, unlikely at best, and of course, it's coming from people who keep shifting their stories. Trump can get as many FIFA consolation trophies as he wants, but it won't stop the questions about his administration's possible crimes in the Caribbean. Thanks to the conservative Supreme Court, Donald Trump has legal immunity. Can't be prosecuted, I don't think, for what's happening there. But let's be very clear here. Others don't. And the pall of these unsanctioned, evidence-free military killings, outside any legal authorization or any actual declared war, continues to hang over every member of the armed services that was and is engaged in this chain of command. Congressman Mike Quigley, Democrat Illinois is a member of the House Intelligence Committee, Congressman Joaquin Castro, Democrat Texas, serves on the Intel Committee as well as the House Foreign Relations Committee, and they both join me now. Congressman, quickly, let me just start with you. I know neither, I believe neither of you gentlemen have seen this video, but do you believe it should be made public to everyone? Yeah, what's amazing here is that the committee of jurisdictions hasn't seen it. Some members of the House Armed Services have seen it in the Senate, and I don't know of anyone else. So the intelligence committees have not seen this. Not only should we see it, the full House should see it, and frankly, the American people have a right to see it. Congressman Castro, you have spent a lot of time thinking about...
counter-narcotics in the Western Hemisphere. And to the extent there's an argument here, it started out by saying fentanyl kills a lot of Americans, which is true. And therefore, there's this, you know, it's a war and these are narco-terrorists. But the closer you look at this, the more that's falling apart, it was, if there were drugs there, it was cocaine, it's not clear it was gone to the U.S. Like, is there any conceivable, genuine counter-narcotics rationale that you can see here? Well, let me put it this way. If there is, Chris, the president and the administration have not provided it. And this has been the most secretive administration in modern American history. They are refusing on some committees, even to send Republican chairs witnesses from the federal government. And I agree with Mike that we ought to all see that footage and the country should see that footage because it looks like war crimes have been committed. And, you know, especially when you have a vote that's going in the opposite direction, you refuse to name the people that you've killed, you refuse to name any evidence or cite any evidence or any charges against them. You're talking about very possibly war crimes. Congressman, quickly, I want to read you this part of the account and get your reaction to it. Military officers said the survivors could have been trying to beckon to other alleged drug traffickers in a plane or boat to come get them, communications that could have justified the fallout strike that killed them. Others have said they appeared to be looking up into the sky to look for the American plane that had maybe done this to them, possibly waving up to surrender. What would you like to learn about what happened here and what should be the sort of public reckoning with this? Look. The first thing that has to happen is we need the intelligence for why they're doing this. How do they get intelligence to make the decision they made? What do they know about this? When we were talking about counterterrorism, we were doing drone strikes. You know, Obama put in a level of near certainty that they were actually certain this was the person involved and they were a danger to the United States. We don't have a clue. as to what the intelligence was, how it was gathered, what was their level of certainty. So the fact that the intelligence committees haven't even been briefed on this tells us that this is a message of secrecy. You're not to know about this. This is our secret, dirty little war. And the problem was the film got out. Congressman Castro, you just talked about the word war crimes, and I don't think that word is at all hyperbolic here. In fact, many experts on the law of armed conflict have said that they think that's what we're talking about here, that that was even the case before this second strike, that these are fundamentally illegal and unauthorized killings. What do you think about legal liability here? I mean, again, it seems far-fetched. We've watched Hollywood movies where...
Members of the chain of command had thought about this and there's been entire dramas about whether they would be liable. But given the fact that we've now this strange constitutional structure invented by John Roberts and the majority in the court that the president isn't legally liable, how do you think about the very real criminal and legal exposure here for those members of the chain of command? I think everybody from Pete Hegseth to Admiral Bradley to anybody who executed these strikes needs to be concerned about legal liability. And as you know, Chris, throughout the history of American conflicts and wars, there have been service members and soldiers and others who have gone overboard, who have committed war crimes and who have been held responsible by Americans, by the legal system, for those actions. And I think that we're at the point where quite possibly there is legal liability in the future for folks. And to your question about the drugs, I don't know how the president would say that this is about combating narco-terrorism or drugs when he pardoned Juan Orlando Hernandez who trafficked or helped traffic 400 tons of cocaine in the United States of America. It's complete hypocrisy, its recklessness, and its lawlessness. Congressman Castro, to follow up, did that shock you? I mean, did you see that coming? And did anyone in Congress see that coming when you saw that social media post? No, I didn't. But there's a lot of things about Donald Trump at this point that just don't make sense, right? A lot of hypocrisies. But I didn't. know why he would do that. I do think that part of it was that he has become very aggressive with Latin America, interfering in elections in Argentina and now Honduras, and also threatening Mexico, Panama, and of course on the verge of taking us into war with Venezuela. That's why Jim McGovern and I have a war powers resolution to withdraw from any war with Venezuela if that in fact happens. And so he's destroying our relationship and our place. in the Western Hemisphere with Latin America. Yeah, Congressman, quickly on that, I mean, there does seem to be, there's obviously a huge buildup. We've got carrier groups down there. We've got an enormous amount of naval assets there. We have now killed 80 individuals on these boat strikes. The president has sort of all but, I think, explicitly threatened war, a regime change war against Maduro. You're on a committee that... usually has a kind of pipeline to the administration that's different than others in terms of Intel. And you've got some experience there. And it sounds to me like you guys are also kind of floating in the dark here. Is that a fair characterization? What's the old line? I only know what I read in the newspapers. That's particularly true with being on the Intel Committee. This is my ninth year. It is becoming more and more, quite honestly, useless. I don't know that we're getting the information that we used to get, and I know that I don't necessarily trust it. So to expect that we would be getting any information that's necessary, quite honestly, I tell the American people,
Members of the Intel Committee, members of Congress, know just about as much as you do about these critical affairs. And it's high time that my Republican friends stand up and say that has to change, and we have to recapture our constitutional powers of appropriations, of oversight, and clearly of war powers. Congressman Mike Quigley and Congressman Joaquin Castro, gentlemen, thank you both. Thank you. Coming up, is a January 6th pipe bomb suspect going to get a pardon from Donald Trump? You got to ask the question. That's next. Watch Disclosure Day at home now with exclusive bonus features. If you found out we weren't alone, if someone showed you, proved it to you? Would that frighten you? Well, now the truth belongs to 7 billion people in an original event film directed by Steven Spielberg from a screenplay by David Kep starring Emily Blunt, Josh O'Connor, Colin Firth, Eve Hewson, and Coleman Domingo. Find Disclosure Day on major digital platforms now with no subscription required, also in theaters. Here's what happened when one journalist reported on DEI programs. I decided to just focus on the University of Michigan. I obtained internal documents that showed that the school had spent about a quarter of a billion dollars on DEI programs. I spent two weeks in Ann Arbor talking to everybody I could find. The unintended consequences of these programs, they had sort of left everybody dissatisfied. And this expensive machinery the school had built just imploded. If you're a journalist, you are not on anyone's team. All you're trying to do is figure out as many of the facts as you can gather. The facts are going to guide you to where the story lands. You're not taking sides. I'm Nick Confessori. I'm an investigations reporter for the New York Times. Journalists like Nick follow the facts wherever they lead. They go where news breaks, get answers firsthand, and publish what they find. That's fact-based reporting. Seek it out if you don't already. This is a Monday.com ad. The same Monday.com designed for every team. The same Monday.com with built-in AI, scaling your work from day one. The same Monday.com with an easy and intuitive setup. Go to Monday.com and try it for free. This afternoon, the man arrested yesterday for planting pipe bombs outside Republican and Democratic Party headquarters before the January 6th insurrection made his first court appearance. Where we learned, he was interviewed by the FBI for four hours after his arrest yesterday. MS now reporting that the subject, suspect, quote, told the FBI he supported Donald Trump and he believed Trump won the 2020 election. That's according to two people familiar with his interview. You'll recall that on day one of his presidency this year, Donald Trump granted, quote, a full and complete unconditional pardon to all individuals convicted of offenses related to events that occurred at or near the United States Capitol on January 6, 2021. Those pardons remain one of the least popular things he's done as president so far.
And now Trump's own Justice Department has just held this press conference yesterday with a bunch of pomp and circumstances and pats on the back, declaring the American people are safer. Now they found an arrest of this pipe bomb suspect, which I have to say, seems plausible. Who doesn't, it turns out, seem much different from the folks that Trump pardoned back in January? Kendallanian is the justice and intelligence correspondent for him is now. He reported on the pipe bomb suspect's FBI interview, and he joins me now. Ken, let me just start with what we do know, what picture has emerged so far. And again, I don't want to get out ahead of any of the facts. Sometimes these things go in crazy directions. We think we know someone's motivation and it's something different. So with all that said, what do we think we've learned so far? Well, Chris, you cited what we reported earlier today. Since we reported that, the U.S. Attorney D.C., Janine Piro, has given an interview where she has said that this suspect, Brian Cole Jr. had a problem with the 2020 election, as she put it. She wouldn't call him a Trump supporter. She said his politics were complicated, and she noted that he allegedly placed bombs in front of the RNC and the DNC headquarters in downtown Washington, D.C. But the picture we're hearing from our sources is... of somebody with sympathies to Donald Trump, a Trump supporter, although they also found social media posts associated with anarchist writings. And so it's complicated. And also there's an issue with this suspect's mental health. One of his relatives described him as a 30-year-old with the mind of a 16-year-old. So a complicated picture. And again, it's not clear that his motive had anything to do with the January 6 attacks, for example, but it does seem that he was caught up in the general... concern and tumult of that time of a group of people who thought that the election had been stolen from Donald Trump and were told to come to Washington, D.C. to try to do something about it, Chris. Yeah, I mean, when I saw that today, our great colleague Ryan Riley had noted yesterday, one of the people that was pardoned by Donald Trump had set off an explosive in the Capitol during the day. He was, that that was one of the sort of crimes that Donald Trump pardoned. If it is the case that this individual did this on behalf of Donald Trump or because he thought the election was stolen in, you know, subscribe to the big lie. I got to imagine line agents of the FBI are wondering, like, is this in the same category as the pardon? Is this, is he going to get a pardon too if Donald Trump reads about this? I've certainly heard people raise that concern, and it seems likely that his lawyers will try to make that argument. He's got private lawyers, his family has hired lawyers on his behalf we learned today. But, I mean, it's hard to imagine that that would fly. given that the pardon sort of is worded in a way that covers activity in and around the Capitol. But, you know, these headquarters are not that far from the Capitol. So it's an interesting point. It just underscores how horrifically problematic those pardons were in the eyes of almost everyone I've ever talked to who's been in and around law enforcement, Chris. Last thing on the suspect, then I want to ask about another great scoop you had.
Is there any picture here that we got of this individual's actions after he placed the bombs, right? Which is to say, you know, how he made them and then how he got away. And then what he was doing on January 6 itself and how he escaped, you know, how he managed to pull off this thing and almost get away with it or at least get away with it for five years. You know, not that I know of, and that's a really interesting question. We have not heard much about his movements after the fact. You know, our colleagues have interviewed neighbors, and you get the usual. He was a quiet and unassuming guy who lived with his parents. It's not clear what kind of life he was leading. But one of the reasons they didn't catch him, Chris, it's becoming clear, is the FBI had a lot of data, 3 million pieces of data, cell phone records, purchase records from Home Depot and Lowe's and other places, license plate readers. And they had all this data connecting this guy to the scene in their repository, and they didn't connect the dots until recently. And of course, Kash Patel is going out and blaming the Biden administration for that. It has nothing to do with politics. These were career FBI agents who were running that investigation. But for whatever reason, they didn't connect the dots that they had in their possession until this FBI brought in a new team and potentially... from what I understand, some new software, potentially some artificial intelligence tools, put to use against this data, and they realized, oh, we have connections here. This guy with the cell phone paying near the scene also purchased these bomb parts at Home Depot, and then they subpoenaed his credit card records, and then they saw everything. Chris. Ah, that actually, that does really shed some light on how they, how they cracked it. I want to read the headline of the other latest reporting from you and Caroleneg, and I'm just going to have the headline, and then you can explain it. Kash Patel ordered FBI detail to give girlfriend's pal a lift home, colon sources. What happened there? So what we're told by three sources familiar with this is on more than one occasion, Kash Patel's girlfriend, the country singer Alexis Wilkins, who lives in Nashville and has a taxpayer-funded FBI security detail, has asked those FBI agents to drive home a friend of hers who was inebriated after a night of partying. And the agents pushed back on that and said, look, that's not our job. And we're told that she called Kash Patel, the FBI director, complained about that, and then he made some calls. and made it happen. Now, Kash Patel's spokesman denies this story adamantly. He says it never happened, but our sources are adamant that it, in fact, did happen on more than one occasion, and we hope to learn more details. I'm making an open appeal to anyone who has information about this. Please contact me on Signal, Chris. Now, correct me, I'm wrong. They do have Uber in Nashville, right? I think they do. And generally, FBI agents on duty don't double as Uber drivers. All right, Kendallanian. Incredible reporting. Thank you very much for that. I appreciate it. Thanks, Chris. Still ahead, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s plan to undermine childhood vaccinations is put into motion. Next. You might not think about oil and natural gas, but it's a big part of your daily routine. From the soap you used, your toothpaste, even your bed sheets.
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Dark day today, the vaccine advisory committee, handpicked by R.Robert F. Kennedy Jr.., did exactly what everyone worried about when the anti-vaxxer was first-name health secretary. The panel voted to end the CDC's decade-long recommendation of the vaccine, one that has been safely administered for more than 30 years and has caused, listen to this number, a 99% drop in cases of kids and teens catching a potentially fatal disease. It's the hepatitis B vaccine for newborns. It's something that's so successful, so uncontroversial, so obviously good, that even in, say, deep red Louisiana, it was a hit. In fact, in January, a former Louisiana liver doctor named Bill Cassidy bragged to Robert F. Kennedy Jr. about his own success administering the shot to his community after treating a teenage Hep B patient who needed a liver transplant to survive. It was the worst day in my medical career because I thought $50 of vaccines could have prevented this all. Since then, I've tried to do everything I can to make sure I never have to speak to another parent about their child dying due to a vaccine preventable disease. So I worked with community and business leaders. We vaccinated 36,000 children for hepatitis B. Today, under the guy that Bill Cassidy voted for as health secretary, this panel of anti-vaxxers blew it all up. And so that horrible moment that Senator Bill Cassidy had, we're going to see a lot more. We are likely to see a lot more kids and teens infected with hepatitis B now because of it. Brandy Zedrosny is an MS now senior reporter who's been covering Robert F. Kennedy Jr.. and the anti-vax movement for years, and she joins me now. So first, just to sort of set where we are, what is this panel that met today? This panel is called ASIP. It has been around for decades, and it advises the CDC on what vaccines we should recommend for children. It's usually made up of experts. It has been forever, but over the summer... Robert F. Kennedy Jr. fired all of those experts and put on his group of anti-vaxxers with a couple of experts who are actual experts sprinkled in because they had been sort of COVID skeptics. So they were allowed on the panel. Thank God they are because they were the lone voices of dissent on this vote. Yeah. So like one of them, just to give an example, a guy in him Kirk Milhoun, I want to just play for him talking about coronavirus to get a little flavor of the guys thinking this is Kirk Millhole. Coronavirus is a, is a bioterror weapon that was created really by the U.S. in North Carolina. And then it was shipped over to Wuhan for further gain of function research. So just a little sort of window into the worldview, like these are by and large kind of anti-vax folks. What do you think? Yeah, some of them are hardcore anti-vaxers, like Vicki Peps. I'm blanking on her name. Vicki. She is a nurse and has been working with an anti-vaccine organization, including Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s longtime group for decades. And then there are some sort of who got in via COVID, this guy that you just played Kirk Milhom. He was a pastor. He was a pediatric cardiologist. And he was among the handful of doctors, the sort of merchants of doubt that came up around the COVID time that wore white coats and sold you stuff like ivermectin and hydrochloroquine. He was one of those guys.
see from that tape just how extreme has gotten. There was, there was some pushback of this decision, which again, we should just say is like completely opposed by every mainstream medical body. Is that fair to say? Yes, every single one. I mean, the American Academy of Pediatrics won't even come to the meetings anymore. It's been, it's been. It's been quite something to see. Again, I've watched these things, these meetings for so long, for decades. I've seen these, like, meetings happen, and they're so boring. And to see the nature of how they've devolved now into really what is a circus sort of led and by Robert F. Kennedy Jr.. It's just, it's really, it's just such a strange thing to think about. Yeah, here's just one, Dr. Meisner, giving his response to one of the presentations that was, you know, casting doubt on the safety or efficacy of the vaccine. Here's what you had to say. I don't know quite how to For you to come here and make these absolutely outrageous statements about safety, I think it's a big disappointment to me, and I don't think you should have been invited. I will be completely honest. So you can hear the sorrow and rage in his voice. Yeah, I mean, and let's just talk about why he was saying that, because the person who had just spoken for nearly two hours of time, which is a lifetime, to put it in perspective, there were doctors there and CDC scientists that when they tried to speak, they were cut off after two minutes. And the head of this panel today, Dr. Malone, who's a... Again, he thinks the CIA made COVID and all of that. He yelled at them and told them to basically shut up. But this guy that was just talking, Aaron Siri, he was commenting on Aaron Siri, being able to talk for some two hours. Aaron Siri is an anti-vaccine lawyer. He's a longtime friend of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.. He is the reason that... West Virginia and Mississippi have weakened mandate laws there for childhood vaccines. I can, we could, we can have, these are such a cast of characters. And the fact that they all were congregating today at this meeting. This is the culmination. It's, it's such a failure of public health. And it really, really shows the depth and the breadth of what Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has done to this, to public health. So they voted to rescind this recommendation. Yes. Now, that doesn't mean that no one will get the hepatitis B shot, right? What does it mean? functionally? Well, it's, we can't know for sure. Here's what we know for sure. We know that insurance companies have said, this is a crank panel and we're not listening to anything they say. Right. They've already written the ball. Yeah, because they don't want everybody to panic. We're going to, we're going to adopt the rules that were before this crazy clown panel came up. So that's fine. One of the problems is, is that around 50% of the children in this country are eligible for something called the Vaccines for Children Program. It is a brilliant federal program that we
started in the 80s that really helped us bridge those gaps between access. Because a lot of the times the holes in people in coverage for vaccines, there's people who couldn't get them, who wanted vaccines. And so this closed that gap. The problem with this and the group voted on it today is that the vaccine for children's program, what Congress allocates for us to buy, the federal government to buy and to put in those arms, those have to adhere to this. these recommendations. So what that's going to look like, we don't know yet. Wait, so that can mean that the 50% of Americans who are some of the poorest and most marginalized are outside of, you know, the health system, those could maybe start not getting the hepatitis Bia. Absolutely. Absolutely. That is an option. I mean, there's going to be many children who will die, right? Is that, that's not a, I don't think that's a. I mean, we're seeing it right now with measles spreading. We're seeing outbreaks of measles. We've seen children die. For no reason. No reason. But when that happens, you have what happened when those kids died of measles? Robert F. Kennedy Jr.. flew down on a plane, comforted those parents and internally said those kids didn't die from measles and had his nonprofit go there and deny it too. I don't, it's going to be really bad. It's going to be actually really bad. And like you said, who it's going to be bad for is children. I just, I find it. almost unspeakably upsetting, I have to say. Me too. I just don't know what to say. I will just read what Bill Cassidy said, who should lie awake at every night just completely eaten alive by his conscience if he has one. He says, as a liver doctor has treated patients with hepatitis B for decades, this changed the vaccine schedules a mistake. The hepatitis B vaccine is safe and effective. The birth dose is a recommendation, not a mandate. Before the birth dose was recommended, 20,000 newborns a year were infected with hepatitis B. Now it's fewer than 20. Ending the recommendation for New Dorans will make it more likely. The number of cases will begin to increase again. It makes America sicker. And, of course, it will be mostly the poorest children in America who will suffer from the effects of this. Really, really dark day. All right. Brandyisidrodney, thank you for being here for that. Brutely enraging report. Still will come. What to make of Donald Trump's brand new soccer trophy peace prize. Next.
The story about Donald Trump's consolation peace prize participation trophy that we brought you at the top of the show, really, you had to see it to believe it. You can go look up the whole thing. It was one of the most surreal spectacles in the second Trump term. I felt like I was hallucinating. I mean, you've got the President of the United States, he's walking the red carpet and pretending like he doesn't know he's going to get this fake prize that was specially made for him. One that the soccer conglomerate FIFA made up specifically for him as a way of ingratiing themselves because everyone understands like you got to give the guy prizes and gifts and gold. And then shuffling across a lengthy stage to meet FIFA's president with sort of grave solemnity and accept his important peace prize. The most indelible image is arguably this one, or the president theatrically pulling his metal out of its case before immediately putting it on, surprising the head of FIFA. Like, look how proud, he can't wait. Look how proud he is. Look how he is of his little gold medal. Today's proceedings came as new reporting indicated the president is privately raging at news coverage of his aging and apparent mental decline and certainly any comparisons being made of him to Sleepy Joe, although I have to say, to his credit today, it seems, he did manage to stay awake for the ceremony. Aswin Subs sang is a senior political correspondent for Zateo, who was reported on Trump's fury at the coverage of his decline, Don Edwards, a former Democratic Congresswoman of Maryland, and they join me now. So now I want you to talk a little bit about your reporting that you had about the fact that the coverage of Trump's, whatever you want to call it, age, mental state. propensity to doze off while someone is speaking about and to him merely seven or eight inches away, that he doesn't like the coverage of that that's getting under his skin. What did you learn? Well, I think on the public level, never mind the behind the scenes elements of that, which I'll get to in just a moment, but publicly, you can tell how incensed this president and this White House are when the media even gently points out on occasion that... Why is this guy falling asleep so routinely during public meetings? Why is this stamina not what it once was? Why is there evidence of what some people may even call cognitive or health decline? And if you talk to people who are... very close to this president, whether they work in the administration or close to it, they will tell you, besides the Jeffrey Epstein scandal, there are fewer things that enrage him more on a visceral level than if you bring up to him or if he sees media coverage of his, shall we say, declining state. This has gotten to a point where senior officials in the administration have instructed underlings, fellow officials.
media surrogates to keep reminding the public about his alleged rigor and energy and stamina. They have used the word stamina, stamina, stamina over and over again when they're encouraging their allies in the media and elsewhere to stick up for him. So this is something that has clearly gotten under his skin, largely because we have reached a breaking point when it comes to the national mainstream and legacy media, where it seems that there's a deluge of coverage of this. It's the New York Times. It's the Washington Post. It's CNN. It's all these different outlets that he really cares about and detests that cannot get around the fact that sleepy Joe Biden has been replaced by sleepy Donald Trump. And they are giving it the amount of coverage that it deserves, which, unfortunately, is a large amount. Yeah, I mean, it's, look, it is hard to ignore when someone's falling asleep in the middle of a live televised event. You don't, you really don't see that a lot. It's really hard to ignore it. It's a president. And Donna, of course, the thing that is, I think. haunts this entire discourse, particularly for Democrats, right? Is that this was the central issue of the 2024 campaign before Joe Biden dropped out. It was the reason that Joe Biden dropped out after the debate performance. There's a range of opinions people have about how justified that was or not. But what was certainly the case was Joe Biden was advanced in age. He was the oldest man to hold the presidency. And it was also evident to everyone back in 2024 that if elected... he would be supplanted in that role by Donald Trump. And yet somehow that reality was not allowed to penetrate in the campaign in the same way that Joe Biden's age was. Well, I mean, I think part of this is because sometimes, especially in public events, the way the president presents himself at rallies on stage, when the, you know, cameras on, he's standing up and he's, you know, boxing and, you know, dancing weirdly on stage. And it looks like he presents himself as vigorous. But the photographs and the videos speak for themselves. It doesn't matter how many times. his spokespeople say the word stamina, if you've got video evidence that this guy is falling asleep, he's falling asleep. And so I think it's tough to refute that. And it does kind of get into the cry, I think, of Democrats, given that I can't remember times that Joe Biden was routinely caught sleeping when heads of state are around in cabinet meetings. And this president routinely does that. And, you know, and I think it does stick with people that.
It was a thing that was attached to Joe Biden, maybe probably because of the nickname, but clearly we've got a sleepy Donald Trump. Yeah, and there's also, I mean, it also does seem like there are genuine health questions. I think there would be with, again, anyone of this age, Swin, and I know that they're like, they're so clearly defensive about that. But again, as with so many things, Swin, nothing they do. None of the statements are, can be found to be reassuring in any way because it's all this like, you know, North Korean style propaganda about how he can play 36 rounds of golf and has like the greatest human heart that anyone's ever seen. There are roughly a billion dollars plus. I'm not exaggerating why I say that. I think at this point it's gotten significantly more. If you tabulate it up, dedicated since January 2025, shuffled in by the federal government in public taxpayer dollars to try to make Donald Trump feel good about himself. There is a sprawling network of programs that you and I are paying for right now with our tax dollars that the federal government is using to make the so-called Emperor Trump make feel very good about himself, make him feel like he is the coolest, greatest, most, strongest president and leader of the free world there has ever been. And that has not stopped at all when it comes to him essentially instructing his White House. and chief lieutenants throughout his administration and political party that they need to constantly tell the American people over and over and over and again that this guy is not declining in any way. And if you think so, you're fake news. Now, the problem is most observers and most voters have eyes and ears. Are able to see them. Yes. ...to their brain. Donna, that spectacle today... I have to say, I almost, it was, I couldn't stop watching, but my level of secondhand embarrassment surpassed anything I think I've ever seen with something involving Donald Trump. It was, it was really a sight to behold. Well, this was a SNL skit that just wrote itself from the very beginning. And the fact that he couldn't wait for, you know, the Infantino to place the medal around him and he took it out of the box and put it on himself. I mean, first of all, it was like very undignified. But it's a made-up trophy. It is the T-ball. Everybody gets a peace trophy. And so, you know, and I think. So many people, and Infantino joins the line of people over and over again who think that they can butter up this president in these kind of ways in order to, you know, gain his attention, his satisfaction, to feed his ego. And this award today was no different from that. And it was, I was so embarrassed. I mean, I really had to.
grab myself because I was embarrassed for him. Yes. I was too. Aswan Soup sang. Donna Edwards. Thank you both. We'll be right back. President has been at a pardoning spree this week, freeing both the former Honduran president who brought more than 500 tons of cocaine into the U.S. and a real estate developer indicted by his own DOJ for bid rigging. Now another Trump pardonee is in the news. Political reports a man pardoned by Donald Trump for his role in the January 6 attack on the Capitol, returned to Washington in recent days and has been wandering the neighborhood of Democratic Representative Jamie Raskin, alarming police and prosecutors who urged a judge to immediately jail him. Congressman Jamie Raskin, who served as one of Trump's impeachment managers, has had to take increased security measures as a result. Yet another Trump pardon clearly for the benefit of the country. That does it for All In. You can catch us every weeknight at 8 o'clock on MS Now. Don't forget to like us on Facebook. That's Facebook.com slash on with Chris. Listen to your favorite MS Now shows anytime as a podcast. Enjoying new episodes of Morning Joe, Deadline White House, and the Rachel Maddo Show. Every small D democratic muscle that we have is flexing. Plus the last word with Lawrence O'Donnell, the beat with Ari Melburgh, the weeknight, and more. On the go, wherever you get your podcasts. For ad-free listening to all of your favorite shows, subscribe to MS Now Premium on Apple Podcasts.