‘F*** off’: World hits back as Trump’s aggression shocks global leaders

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Good evening from New York. I'm Chris Hayes. It has been one year since Donald Trump took office, and it has been, I think you'd agree, brutal in almost all ways. Masked, armed federal immigration officers looking like they're in the middle of a war zone and camouflage and long guns are subjecting the residents of Minneapolis to a violent and lawless occupation. While the president muses about sending in American soldiers and has his Department of Justice almost by the day go after local elected leaders. The economy is deteriorating from unemployment to inflation to the tariffs Donald Trump has levied unilaterally, hundreds of billions, maybe trillions of dollars in taxes on the American people, also leaving America even more isolated. The Dow Jay Jones dropped almost 900 points today alone. Just in the past month, Donald Trump has seized and captured the president of Venezuela, brought him to the U.S. to stand trial, and announced, we are taking their oil and selling it and then putting the proceeds in a private offshore bank account in Qatar that Trump controls. He's also threatened to bomb Iran as well as numerous other countries. In fact, our closest allies in Europe are preparing for a possible war with us. because Trump wants somebody to give him Greenland and a Nobel Peace Prize. That obsession and its consequences were on full display today in Davos, Switzerland, as the annual meeting of world leaders became an emergency summit, I mean, frantic almost, to deal with an American president who is, not to put too fine a point on it, acting like an evil madman. And they've tried all sorts of strategies up until today, and they're still trying to coddle Trump, like a toddler, to flatter him. Now they're facing an ominous fact that has been staring us Americans in the face for a year. The United States is a nuclear-armed superpower run by a would-be tyrant. And they are now talking about him like an enemy. We need more stability in this world. But we do prefer respect to bullies. We do prefer science to plotism. And we do prefer rule of law to brutality. The fact is Trump only respects force and strength and unity. And that's exactly what Europe should. Demonstrate right now. I would like to confirm that they are an ally, but then they have to behave like an ally. You live in a time of monsters. And it's up to him to decide if he wants to be a monster, yes or no. Let me put this in words you might understand. Mr. President, fuck off. Things are so dire. The Prime Minister of Canada are steadfast ally to the North, our neighbor. gave one of the best, most clear-eyed, sober, urgent speeches that I've heard a politician deliver in a very, very long time. And certainly not the usual kind of speech that we hear at places like Dobblers. Great powers have begun using economic integration as weapons. Tariffs is leverage. Financial infrastructure is coercion. Supply chains as vulnerabilities to be exploited.

But when we only negotiate bilaterally with a hegemon, we negotiate from weakness. We accept what's offered. We compete with each other to be the most accommodating. This is not sovereignty. It's the performance of sovereignty while accepting subordination. The powerful have their power. But we have something too. The capacity to stop pretending. to name reality, to build our strength at home, and to act together. The thesis of Carney's speech is that the old order has been destroyed, that it lies in ruins, that this isn't just a transition, but a disruption. And it wasn't just world leaders. Visitors in Davos could see a glow in those snow-capped mountains after the sunset this evening, after a group of 10 local residents hiked up the mountain with 450 torches to spell out one message. that shone down across the valley, no kings. Donald Trump is set to speak at Davos tomorrow, but while the rest of the world is describing him as the biggest threat to peace and stability in the world, he was exactly where you would expect him to be at a White House podium for a very, very long hour and 44 minutes. And I've watched like, you know, six-year-olds play baseball. A very long hour and 44 minutes boasting about his year of accomplishments. Should have gotten the Nobel Prize for each war, but I don't say that. I saved millions and millions of people. And don't let anyone tell you that Norway doesn't control the shots, okay? It's in Norway. Norway controls the shots. And by the way, I did more for NATO than any other person alive or dead. Officially reinstated Columbus Day. I like the name Columbus Day. The Italian people are very happy about it. Remember, when you go to the voting booths, I reinstated Columbus. I said to my mother, Mom, she would be always there for me. She said, son, you could be a professional baseball player. I said, thanks, Mom. We have a perfect system right now. We're making a fortune. We've never been stronger. Do you feel like God is proud of the effort that you've played? I do. Actually, I think God is very proud of the job I've done. And that includes for religion. By the way, we saved you from some of those vile stuff he did. More racism heaped on Somali Americans and Somalians. But he did that for two hours, while the rest of the world described the United States as a rogue state bent on domination. In fact, the White House staff conveniently typed up and printed out for Trump on a big stack of paper sheets to read from that listed his supposed accomplishments with bullet points like number 243. Stripped notorious crackhead and grifter Hunter Biden of his taxpayer-funded Secret Service detail. 245. Signed an executive order to end the use of paper straws. How can people not be celebrating the streets? How can he not have a 65% approval rating? All this comes days after Trump announced he was forming a board of peace to basically supplant the United Nations, a board run by him where he plans on charging member states a billion dollars to have a permanent seat on the board. Trump has already invited heads of state like Vladimir Putin, Xi Jinping, and Benjamin Netanyahu to join, and strong-armed leaders from nations like Hungary and Belarus.

Over the weekend, Trump also received a text from the Prime Minister of Norway. You saw him talking about the Norwegians before he's obsessed with them. He's convinced that the Norwegian president controls a Nobel Peace Prize. And he got a text that was honestly kind of flattering and supplicant, like all of these messages tend to be, desperately seeking to ease tensions with the U.S. over its positions on Greenland, Gaza, and Ukraine. Trump responded by tax saying, in part, quote, Dear Jonas, considering your country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped eight wars plus, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for United States of America. Going on to insist on taking Denmark, a taking Greenland. Now, this is an obvious point, and it's been made a ton. But it's worth reiterating today on this one-year anniversary. Us, Americans, electing Donald Trump is not just our problem for us. We have made it the world's problem because we have made ourselves the center of the global order. And the post-World War II global order has been predicated basically on U.S. hegemony. And to be real clear-eyed about this, and there's a lot of gauzy nostalgia here, That hegemony, that power that we have has been abused egregiously in many circumstances, in awful bloody and unforgivable ways from Vietnam to Iraq and beyond. But that hegemony was also the ordering principle, along with a set of international multilateral institutions that were constructed built on the big lesson of World War II, which is that autocratic regimes, expansionist empires, and fascists will create world war. And so we ended up in the system in which the world's oldest, most stable democracy, one of the victors of that war, was at the center to prevent that. And the best way to understand that structure, that post-war liberal order, is not as some liberal order, but really as a world war avoidance machine. The world war avoidance machine with the U.S. at the center has been running for 80 years now. And it's done a lot of bad things, but it has succeeded in that singular goal. And what we are dealing with today is what happens when the winners of World War II, one of them, realized the order they built is crumbling and that the global hegemon is sounding and maybe acting now like an access power. Maybe we're the bad guys. And these allies are getting a daunting awareness, and Americans in the anti-Trump camp have had from day one. Something that's been clear from the first day that he was sworn in when he unilaterally pardoned all the January 6th insurrectionist who had storned the Capitol on his behalf, including the ones that beat the cops on the head and the ones convicted of seditious conspiracy. These allies are becoming aware that the most powerful person in the world is a danger and threat to it and making the world order unstable. And that means we're all in a lot of trouble. Senator Chris Van Hollen is a Democrat of Maryland. He serves on the Foreign Relations Committee. He also attended a protest against ICE in his home state today. We're going to talk about that as well, and he joins me. Now, Senator, just your assessment of where we are on the crisis scale as the president heads towards Davos and world leaders are attempting to deal with what sounds like.

a threat of using military force to forcibly steal a piece of land from an ostensible ally and destroy 80 years of what had been constructed after World War II. Yeah, Chris, this is a five-alarm fire. This lawless president has sowed conflict and division here at home. We're seeing that across our country. But he's also doing that everywhere around the world. And European leaders should take seriously this threat, this threat to our democracies, to the rule of law. After all, the president came out with their new national security strategy. And if you boil it down, what it says is might makes right. And what Donald Trump says is the only limit to his exercise of power is his own mind or his own morality. That should scare the hell out of everybody, not just the United States, but around the world. Do you have advice for European leaders? I mean, you know, One of the things I've heard, you know, how do you deal with him? I think one of the things we've observed in everything from interacting at law firms and universities to what's happening politically is that he'll only kind of back down when forced to. He only responds to strength. He doesn't really respond very well to weakness or supplication or flattery, maybe temporarily he does. Do you have a message for the folks in Europe and at Davos right now and World Capitals trying to head off what could be a... cataclysmic development. Absolutely. Trying to appease a bully like Donald Trump, and that's what he is. only feeds the appetite of the bully. This is a person who wants to intimidate all of us, wants us to shut up and go away. We all need to not just speak up, but we need to stand up and act. And I would say to the European leaders who were coming to the president kind of had on hand as supplicants, that that was the wrong way to go. All it did was feed his ego and his appetite for power. Only if they stand up. And I mean not just in words, Chris, but I mean they need to take actions that impose punishment and penalties on Trump and the cronies in his administration. There are many options that they have, but I will tell you, appeasement does not work. One model for standing up to Trump we've seen from citizens of this country and residents of this country who've stood up to ICE in cities around the country, and particularly right now in Minneapolis and St. Paul in the state of Minnesota. I know you're on an ICE protest today. You're about to have a vote come before you on what's called a minibus, a spending bill for the Department of Homeland Security, among other things. It would be...

1.2 trillion is a total top line funding number. Some of that would be for DHS, Pentagon, domestic agencies. Some Democrats have said they've negotiated some good things in there, a limit to how much of the budget of DHS can go to detention, which would hopefully limit the amount of people they can detain. Others like Senator Chris Murphy, Connecticut, say it doesn't go far enough. Are you planning on voting for this piece of legislation? Chris, I'm planning on voting no. I will not vote for this legislation. And I will say one of the things that gives me great hope, even amidst all of this division and chaos sewn by Donald Trump, are the patriots in places like Minneapolis who are standing up, blowing whistles to protect their neighbors, blowing whistles. on the illegal tactics of ICE. And I was just at a rally in Hagerstown, Maryland today. Hundreds of people coming out because ICE is signaled that they might use a facility in Hagerstown for their purposes. And people were coming out to say no. So I looked at the proposal that's been put before us. It does not begin to rain in ice sufficiently. It does not adequately protect our constitutional rights. I will be voting no. You know, sometimes there's, I think the Boston Globe ran the kind of satirical front page when Trump was elected, sort of projecting what things would look like in a year, and it was like trade wars and mass deportation, all this stuff. It's back in 2016. Sometimes people will invoke that, and they'll invoke the kind of genre of like stories that feel like they're from a dystopian future, but are actual newspaper stories. And in that category, I have to read you this today from Canada's Globe and Mail, because between the Mark Carney speech and this, it really brought me up short. The Canadian Armed Forces have modeled a hypothetical U.S. military invasion of Canada and the country's potential response. The military envisions unconventional warfare in which small groups of irregular military or armed civilians would resort to ambushes, tactics used by the Afghan Mujahideen and their hit-and-run attacks on Russian soldiers during the 1979-1979 Soviet-Afghan War. This is not make-up. This is not satirical. This is real wargaming that our neighbors in North are doing. Did you ever in your life think you would read that in the newspaper? Never, never. And this is what Trump has sowed. So he says, you know, he wants to go to Greenland to protect it from Russia and China. The reality is that we don't need permission from Greenland and others just to go for NATO purposes. They've already given us. They're okay. Denmark has said, do what you need to do to protect NATO. This is a land grab. pure and simple, just like the efforts in Venezuela were about land and minerals and oil, not trying to stop drugs from coming into the country, Chris. And look, we remember when Donald Trump was talking about Canada is the 51st state. We may get back to that. I mean, this is what this man believes, and it is a threat to the world. And I never imagined that we would be seen our neighbor, Canada, actually having to begin to prepare military actions because of an action by the United States of America. Senator Chris Van Hollen in Maryland. Thank you so much for time tonight. Good to be with you. Coming up, the latest outrages from Trump's occupation in Minnesota, the state's attorney general Keith Ellison served with a subpoena today. Joins me next.

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We're going to look it over and we'll respond according to law. I can tell you, though, they're announcing investigations from all of us, and you mentioned three of us here in Minnesota. Actually, they're actually messing with the brand new mayor of St. Paul and the Kenopin County attorney. But they're not investigating the person who ended the life of Renee Good. There's no investigation on that at all. And so it's a little bit ironic as we're doing the work that we're elected to do by our constituents, standing up for our states, insisting upon the dignity and the rights of the members of Minnesota. They have not done anything close to what they should do when it comes to investigating a homicide. And again, I make no conclusion as to how the case should end up. But they have overtly and very deliberately stated we're not investigating anything. No one in the federal side is investigating the death of Renee Good. Now, explain that. In fact, we should say there's reporting that indicates that the FBI, at least an FBI agent or two, had looked into it, concluded there should be investigation opened. Typically, there would be one, particularly in the Civil Rights Division or other parts of the federal government. Some of the Civil Rights Division lawyers, the DOJ, have resigned in protest to the fact that that was shut down. Todd Blanche has said definitively there will be no investigation. So it seems pretty clear that they have actively shut down an investigation while actively attempted to create one. possibly against Renee Goods' widow and against you, yourself, and several other Minnesota elected leaders. And are still denying state investigators access to the file. So if you're not going to do an investigation and you won't allow other authorities to do an investigation, sounds like you're trying to do a cover-up. The case of Mr. Dow, I think, is illustrative because it is weak. caught on camera. He's a U.S. citizen. His ethnicity is he's Hmong from Vietnam. Of course, notoriously, that's a group that had fought on the U.S. side in Vietnam and had been granted refugee status. The vast and overwhelming majority among folks who live in Minnesota are legal. They were brought here as a kind of recompense for their stalwart allyship in that war. His son said that... ICE agents stopped him while he was driving to work before they went to detain his father. He was driving a car he borrowed from his cousin's boyfriend. Court record showed the boyfriend shares the first name, the first name, of another Asian man who has been convicted of a sex offense. Chris Tau said the two people are not the same. And regardless of whether it was a case of mistaken identity, is it your understanding that it's constitutionally permissible to knock down someone's door and grab them with zero probable cause or judicial warrant? It looks like an outrage and an offense not only against that Minnesota resident and citizen, but against our Constitution. And the sad thing is that it is a particularly heinous and ugly example of what's going on, but Chris is happening all over our city and our state all the time. I could pull out numerous other examples that are as ugly as that.

not quite as ugly, some perhaps more ugly, but this is what our federal government in these United States is putting our state under for no discernible reason. And that's why we're suing them. And that's why we're going to be in court with them in only a few days to be able to bring this to the attention of a court to hopefully bring Operation Metro Surge to a stop or at least put guardrails around it so that it's not as abusive as it has been over the last several weeks. Is that, do you know when that court case will be heard by a judge? Yes, it'll be January 23rd, January 23rd. So, you know, that is the date that we're looking forward to. The court has already issued a ruling that is in favor of the rights of protesters and the press. And I just want to say to the free independent media of America, they are attacking you to. But this one is more focused on a broader, just blanket violation of the rights of Minnesotans and the irrational arbitrary behavior of the Department of Homeland Security. One of the most striking things I've noticed in this story is obviously it was, you know, five and a half years ago that George Floyd was murdered in the 20 cities in Minneapolis specifically. And there's been a lot of work done to repair the aftermath of that, particularly with the community, particularly with the police department. I know I've talked to people about this. I know that you have been part of that work. Sure. And it's been interesting to listen to local law enforcement about how they're dealing with this federal surge. And today, the chief of police of Brooklyn Park, which is a municipality right in that area, came forward to talk about his own officers facing this kind of abuse. Take a listen to what he had to say. Sure. What we're hearing is they're being stopped in traffic stops or on the street with no cause and being forced to demand paperwork to determine if they are here legally. As this went on over the past two weeks, we started hearing from our police officers, the same complaints as they fell victim to this while off duty. Every one of these individuals is a person of color who has had this happen to them. If it is happening to our officers, it pains me to think of how many of our community members are falling victim to this every day. It has to stop. How important do you think it is for an officer like that to speak out the way that he did today? Well, you know, we're so proud of so many members of law enforcement who you're absolutely right, Chris. You know, since George Floyd, we've done a lot of work.

And I'm not here to declare that everything's perfect. But there's a lot of officers and a lot of citizens who have worked really hard to build a workable, trust-based relationship. And, you know, many of these are, you know, the chief is, I know him, he's a friend of mine. And he, I was always proud of him, but I am even more so because he's speaking up with truth and dignity. But he's not the only one. Chief Brian O'Hara is doing the same thing in Minneapolis. other police leaders are speaking up and saying, don't treat our people this way. We've worked hard to build relationships. And so, again, it's one thing Trump has done is he's brought us together and made us all appreciate each other a little bit more. This particular chief knows that we have officers who are, some are Somali, some are white, some are black. They're all kinds. But they all are united in trying to protect the rights of Minnesotans. And to see Trump ordering this surge, this dramatic escalation of more than 3,000 ICE and Border Patrol agents all on a fairly, all on our state. When we're not even one of the highest immigration states in the country, just is appalls everyone, police chief, ordinary citizen, everybody. Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison, thank you for your time tonight. You bet. Thank you. Still ahead as Donald Trump prepares to address the world in Switzerland, the American public, has turned pretty decisively against his economic policies. That's next. For more? Claude, you can talk? I've always had the gift of gab, Nancy. But now you can understand. With pretty litter, the odor neutralizing, long-lasting health indicating kitty litter, that's simply the most luxurious way to bury my poopies and my peepees. Pretty litter was developed with veterinarians. It helps me monitor potential health problems just by changing color. Go to prettylitter.com today. Pretty litter. Not just a pretty litter. Ever since I was young, I've watched people working hard, chasing opportunity, making sacrifices, doing everything they can to build a better life. And now, we're shining a light on what matters most. Our economy, our national identity, our democracy, our future. The stakes have never been higher. It's all on the line. On the line with Alicia Menendez. Weekdays at 12 p.m. Eastern on MS Now.

Donald Trump is headed to the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, where he's scheduled to speak tomorrow after essentially declaring economic war on the entire world. And as he prepares to face the European allies, he consistently disparages and insults. An overwhelming majority of Americans say they do not trust his economic policies. A recent EPO found that just 37% of Americans approve of how he's handling the economy while 62% disapprove. Steve Leastman's CNBC Senior Economics Reporter, my favorite person to talk about with us at the table, joins me now. Good to have you here. Yeah, our data is very similar at CNBC. We do not. We show a lot of disapproval on the overall. What's really interesting about the second term with the president is his economic approval is running below his overall approval. That was the opposite in the first term. Big crazy day today, geopolitically, and then in the markets, which I think are related, Dow dropped, you know, a ton, bond markets went crazy, yields went up. What happened today? Well, you know, this was the sell America trade that we had another time in April, Liberation Day, when those tariffs came on. So bond yields fell, which means people sold bonds, U.S. bonds. Stocks fell, which means they sold U.S. stocks. the dollar also fell. So all three key components, what rose, what gold went up? And I think there were two components of that, Chris. I think the first component is that immediately the market is factoring in the economic effects of tariffs, and they tend not to be good. Pardon me. The other thing is, I think, a longer-term idea, which is we thought tariffs were a 2025 story. Well, we woke up in January to find out we're still going to be living with new and uncertain tariffs as to, and they can come and they can go as quickly as the president can write a tweet. Unless the Supreme Court steps in, which is a possibility. No, no, no, it doesn't even matter because he's telling us, it doesn't matter. I'm going to find another way to do it. So it's a good point. It's not like they're going away. Now, they may go into a space. where Congress may have to choose to continue them. I think he gets 150 days under one of the different proposals. But what we learned today is they're not going away. And of course, there is a dramatic potential impact here of the severance of the massive U.S.-European trade relationship, which, by the way, there was an agreement there, which was not... Great. It was worse than the old agreement. But they struck an actual agreement. They had a deal. And now the deal. And now the deal looks like it's up in the air. So stepping back for a second. You know, the, the markets reacted in a pretty panicked fashion to Liberation Day. And then what happened was a bunch of things happened. One is that I do think one of the few things that can exercise restraint on him is our markets, particularly stock markets, because he looks at them. So when they sell off, it does do something to him. And he did step back from the maximalist position. We still have a very tight tariff rate. It still has real economic consequences. Scott Bessent's message today to people was kind of like, don't worry, the Greenland thing is just like that.

And my big thing is like, I just feel like the markets aren't pricing the tail risk enough. I think they're altogether too sanguine about all this. I mean, I wake up in the morning and I look at the market and. There's something that's been going on, Chris, that maybe explains the top of the segment, which was the polling numbers and the dissonance we get with the high GDP numbers. There's this massive boom going on in AI. And I think if you remove that from what's happening in the economy, the economy looks a lot shakier in that regard. And I think that people aren't feeling that increase in AI in that boom because that's a... Wealthy people are benefiting from that, and average people are not. And we're not seeing, I think one of the things we're not able to see in the data, but I'm hearing anecdotally, is this very hurtful impact of tariffs when it comes to small businesses. And that is something that if you look at the data from ADP, small businesses since Liberation Day have shed... a quarter of a million jobs. Wow. In the seven months before that, they gained a quarter million jobs. So that might be telling us what's going on. Well, and that story of two economies, I think... The K-shaped economy. The K-shaped economy, right? Like the sort of top 10, top 20% most affluent consumers. Now, top 10 make up 50% of consumer spending, right? The stock market, 17% S&P growth the last year. But people don't feel it. I mean, to me, the crazy thing here is... That's kind of the point of AI. Like as he goes to Davos, right, and he's like looking at these polling numbers and they're talking about a GDP now estimate of maybe 5% in the first quarter, which would be like blow the doors off numbers, right? It's like if the ADI bet works for the investors in it, it's going to be bad for the labor market because that's the whole source of the value. And if it doesn't work, then everything's going to crumble. But either way. And the little guy will take it on the shit also. Exactly. So it's like either way, it's hard to see the like working man coming out ahead. I think that's right. I'm a little bit more upbeat about the possibilities of technology over the longer term. I think that happens. And I think we shouldn't necessarily be afraid of it. But I would think that the government. should be spending a lot more time thinking about the potential fallout of AI on the labor force than maybe taking over Greenland. In terms of things that are immediately threats in front of us, I think AI, I think you raise a lot of interesting questions. I think there are ways in which other people get retrained, go back to work, find other jobs that don't exist. We've always been a little bit. We've seen that with stuff, sure. Thinking about the apocalypse from new technology, it often doesn't happen, but there is displacement. Right. People will be displaced and will be hurt, and it's something we need to be thinking hard about. I just think you can see in his head right now a genuine of like, why doesn't everyone love this? And partly that's his narcissism, I think. But part of it, I think is...

We might have a first quarter again where like the headline numbers look great and people hate as much as they ever had. And that's kind of the full story of the economy and the politics of the economy at this moment. Yeah, it is a dissonance that we pick up every poll we do. Which is we, and by the way, it was also true in the Biden administration, but I think for different reasons. Different reasons. That was a lot more inflation. Going the right way. Yes. When you look at, and the president keeps saying there's no inflation, well, there's exactly as much inflation as there was in the last year of the Biden administration as there was. It's down a little bit under the president. But part of that, the big chunk of that increase is actually tariffs. Employment is way down. And that's a big part. And one of the most important things I think we ought to think about is. manufacturing employment is way down. And I think, I hate to come back to this tariff thing again and again. We've tariffed and taxed the inputs. And that has made it really hard for small manufacturers. Hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs. Steve Leesman, always great to have you here. Thank you. Still to come as Donald Trump take a sledgehammer to the rule of law. The really remarkable widespread and very meaningful pushback that we've seen both from people, from lawyers, and from courts and judges across the country. That's next.

Earlier today, as world leaders were gathered in Davos and Donald Trump continued to threaten our allies, local Switzerland residents hiked up a mountain with 450 torches to spell out this message, no kings. And that's because Donald Trump has spent the past year attempting to become a king to destroy the constitutional order and is not stopping. He sent thousands of federal agents to essentially occupy Minnesota's Twin Cities. He's attacking Americans' fundamental right to protest. He's prosecuting his political opponents. But even as the president actively tries to tear down the rule of law and the entire edifice of American constitutionalism, Americans are doing everything they can, every day, out on the streets, everywhere they are, to preserve it. Norm Eisen is on the front lines of this fight in the courts. He's co-founder and executive chair of the Democracy Defenders Fund, which just published Autocracy v. Democracy in America, a first year report, and he joins me now. Norm, I said to my wife, Kate, who you worked with and are friends with this morning, that your indefatigable optimism, even in the face of a tough environment, tends to cheer me. So I think I know the answer to this question, but how do you think we're doing a year in? Well, Chris, the death and devastation of Donald Trump's entirely predictable authoritarian surge has been vast. But we have met. His flood the zone autocracy with rule of law, shock and awe. That's been in the courts where the Democracy Defenders Fund and Action, which I co-founded, have 249 legal cases and matters, including many of the landmark guardrails against Donald Trump's wrongdoing. But it's also been in the streets with massive... lawful, peaceful mobilization, including the No King's Movement. And frankly, it's happening in and at the polls, Chris. Donald Trump and his policies are historically unpopular. And the pro-democracy coalition, one, or outperformed by double digits in 222 out of 229 races in Donald Trump's first year. So what he's done is very bad, but the pushback has been very, very substantial. And that gives me hope that our country is up for this challenge. You know, one of the places that's actually been surprising to me, because I think I tend to be a realist, even cynical about the courts and judges in particular as kind of political actors have been the lower courts, not the Supreme Court, which I think has been exactly what I anticipated, unfortunately. But today we got just another example of this. I mean, district judges across the ideological spectrum appointed by Republicans and Democrats, some even appointed by Trump, speaking with sort of uncommon clarity.

about what they are seeing. Today, it's Judge David Novak, who's the chief judge of the Eastern District of Virginia, where Lindsey Halligan has been essentially illegally posing as the U.S. attorney there. She does not comply with the law. The local district has found that she doesn't. And in talking about a response she filed saying why she should still be in the job, he writes, Ms. Lindsey Halligan's response in which she... joined by both Attorney General and Deputy Attorney General, contains a level of vitriol, more appropriate for a cable news talk show, and falls far beneath the level of advocacy expected from litigants in this court, particularly Department of Justice. Again, this is a Trump appointee. Ms. Lindsey Halligan elected to simply ignore valid court orders. The court cannot tolerate such obstin's because doing so would undermine the very essence of the rule law, in short, the charade of Ms. Lindsey Halligan masquerading as a U.S. attorney of this district in direct to finds of binding court orders must come to an end. The AP reporting, she is out of the job after that. What do you make of that? Well, Chris, as you know, the Democracy Defenders Fund, we launched this campaign against the phony Trump U.S. attorneys, securing the first precedence with our wonderful litigating partners, knocking Alina Habba out of the job, and then confirming that in the Third Circuit. We filed briefs here and an ethics complaint against Ms. Lindsey Halligan kicking off. The effort, of course, in the Letitia James and James Comey case, where their lawyers, supported by DDF briefs, their lawyers got the cases thrown out because she's a phony, crony appointee, and now Judge Novak pouring on the rule of law. It's a good example. And there are so many hundreds of others. of the way the rule of law together with popular protests and the polling results have been a pushback on authoritarianism. Final question for you, maybe on a slightly more sour note, is the Supreme Court. I mean, that is the place where they have acted, it seems. As supplicants is compliant, we still don't have the tariff decision. What do you think, what are you thinking about the approach to that court this year in what will be a real fulcrum year for the future of this democracy? Well, the shadow docket, of course, has been abused. That's wrong. But even at the Supreme Court, and I really can't emphasize enough, my exception to the use of the shadow docket, even there, we saw a strong decision.

on the use of the National Guard at our organization. We represent cities, including Los Angeles. Chris, one of the highlights of my entire year was when my wonderful client, the city attorney of Los Angeles sent me the video footage. of the National Guard leaving Los Angeles in the dead of night in connection with that decision. We're also litigating important ICE precedents there where we have at times enjoying some of the worst misbehavior. Let's see what the Supreme Court does this year. TBD, but that was a right spot. Fingers crossed, Norm, thank you so much. Norm, good to see you. Thanks, Chris. One more thing before we go. Last year, I published my latest book, The Sirens Call. In just a few weeks, the book will be out in paperback. I'm doing a few public events around it, including one at the Great Hall in Cooper Union right here in New York City on Thursday, February 5th at 7 p.m. It's presented by The Strand, and it will be moderated by the renowned social psychologist and best-selling author Jonathan Haidt, who wrote that fantastic book, The Anxious Generation, where both can be talking about attention and its extraction. Please come. It's going to be a great event. I hope to see you all there. That does it for All In. You can catch us every weeknight at 8 o'clock on MS now. Don't forget to like us on Facebook. That's Facebook.com slash all on with Chris. Snoring, gasping for air during sleep, daytime sleepiness. I'm Shaquille O'Neill, and this shouldn't be anybody's experience. Ask your doctor about Zepound to her Zepatine. The first and only FDA approved prescription medicine for moderate to severe obstructive sleep apnea in adults with obesity. Zepbound is a prescription medicine used with a reduced calorie diet and increased physical activity to help adults with moderate to severe obstructive sleep apnea, OSA, and obesity to improve their OSA. Zepbound is approved as a 2.5, 5, 7.5, 10, 12.5, or 15 milligram injection. Zepound contains chrezepotide and should not be used with other trezepotide containing products or any GLP1 receptor agonist medicines. It is not known if Zepound is safe and effective for use in children. Don't share needles or pens or reuse needles. Don't take up allergic to it, or if you or someone in your family had medullary thyroid cancer, or if you've had multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2. Tell your doctor if you get a lump or swelling in your neck. Stop stepbound and call your doctor if you have severe stomach pain or a serious allergic reaction. Severe side effects may include inflamed pancreas or gallbladder problems. Tell your doctor if you experience vision changes before scheduled procedures with anesthesia. If you're nursing, pregnant, plan-to-be, or taking birth control pills, taking Zepbound with a sulfonal urea or insulin may cause low blood sugar. Side effects include nausea, diarrhea, and vomiting, which can cause dehydration and worsen kidney problems. Talk to your doctor. Call 1-800-545-9 or visit zepbound.lily.com.