Elon Musk emailed Epstein about 'wildest party' on private island: new docs

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Good evening from New York. I'm Chris Hayes. Tens of thousands of people marched across the country today in Minneapolis, Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, Cleveland, many of them braving sub-zero temperatures to protest the police state that Donald Trump is attempting to build before our eyes. A police state uses its power to crush dissent, to terrorize the populace, to force them to submit to its political will. It is a perversion of the policing power. And for the past year, we have watched the federal government, particularly the law enforcement aspects of it, transform under Trump. As armed federal agents push into communities into accepting his wins or suffering the consequences. We have now masked secret police who have shot two nonviolent protesters dead in the streets while people recorded on their camera phones. Renee Good and Alex Pretty. We still don't even know the identities of some of those agents who work for the government who shot and killed them. Instead, today, we got the President of the United States calling the man who was shot and killed on the street, a, quote, agitator and perhaps insurrectionist. MS Now is now reporting that ICE is planning to move into Ohio next week to target thousands of Haitian migrants, thousands of whom received explicit permission for the government to stay and to work. So this is not stopping. Those masked agents are still grabbing citizens, taking their pictures and entering them into a database, then confronting them on the streets and calling them by their name. Today, multiple current and former officials revealed to New York Times that ICE is using two facial recognition programs in Minnesota and using cell phone and social media tools to monitor people's online activity and potentially hack into phones. And, agents are tapping into a database built by the data analytics company Palantir that combines government commercial data to identify real-time locations for individuals they are pursuing. Today, they topped it all off by coming for the journalists. Fed's arrested four people, including former CNN anchor Don Lemon, and an award-winning independent journalist, Georgia Fort, in connection with an anti-ice protest earlier this month that interrupted a service at a church where one of the pastors is also an ice field director. In fact, reporter Georgia Ford was awoken in the dead of night by a knock on her door. From masked DEA agents, the Drug Enforcement Agency, why are they there? As they waited at her doorstop and looked in her windows, she posted this message to social media. I wanted to alert the public that agents are at my door right now. This is all stemming from the fact that I... filmed a protest as a member of the media. It's hard to understand how we have a constant, a constitution, constitutional rights when you can just be arrested for being a member of the press. You, and we've seen all these violations. All right, you guys, I got to go. They're knocking. Yep, she's coming right now.

A little context here. Last year, the former Speaker of the State House of Minnesota was shot and killed, assassinated by a man who showed up at her door pretending to be law enforcement. So just put that in your head. So then for it, the vice president of the National Association of Black Journalists in Minnesota, who was one of two reporters in the courtroom when George Floyd's killer was sentenced, was taken away in the cold by those same masked, kidded out DEA agents. The feds are claiming that Don Lemon and Ford were agitators of the church protest who conspired to, quote, injure, oppress, threaten, and intimidate multiple persons, including the clergy, staff, and congregants depriving them of their constitutional right to free religion. I'm not making that up. That is the claim here. But as you can see for yourself, and we've been doing a lot of see for yourself recently because of the lies that emanate from this administration, here's footage of Don Lenneman in that church during that protest. We're not part of the activist, but we're here just reporting on them. So I'm just going to be as respectful as possible. I'm not here to intimidate anybody. I'm just here to chronicle and to get some answers. Since that protest nearly two weeks ago, Donald Trump's Department of Justice has been trying to charge them. And in fact, last week, a federal magistrate judge and an appeals court rejected the charges as baseless. I mean, again, we said this a lot on this show. This basically never happens, right? Federal magistrate judges never knocked the feds back on this sort of thing. And then they're never, ever appealed. And then it's certainly not the case of the appellate court projects it. But Lemon predicted back then that they weren't finished with them. I know the Trump administration doesn't have a healthy respect for journalism or journalists because they attack journalists at every measure. And they do that because they know the truth is not on their side. The Constitution is not on their side. Donald Trump lies more than he breathes. This is not a victory lap for me because it's not over. They're going to try again and they're going to try again. And guess what? Here I am. Keep trying. That's not going to stop me from being a journalist. You're not going to diminish my voice. This morning, they arrested Lemon in Los Angeles as he prepared to cover the Grammy Awards. All the defendants were arraigned in court today. Afterwards, Georgia Fort emerged from the courthouse and was thronged by supporters, and Lemon struck a defiant tone. I have spent my entire career covering the news. I will not stop now. In fact... There is no more important time than right now, this very moment for a free and independent media that shines a light on the truth and holds those in power accountable. Donald Trump's sending government forces after critics, opponents, even those who are completely nonpartisan, but he views as insufficiently obedient. Across a whole array of institutions. Today, Trump announced a politically connected replacement for the Fed chair, Jerome Powell, even though Jerome Powell's term runs for another five months. And also, he is, remember, still being criminally investigated by Trump's DOJ.

Michelle Goldberg is an opinion columnist from New York Times. Adam Serber is a staff writer for The Atlantic. His latest piece is titled Minnesota Proved MAGA Wrong, and they joined me now. Michelle, let me just start with you, your reaction to something that I think everyone in our industry has anticipated or expected, even planned for, which was federal agents arresting journalists that happened today. Right. And let's remember, we've already seen federal agents raid the home of a Washington Post reporter. So this has been happening, although obviously arresting them, holding them is an escalation. And I think, you know, one of the most surprising things about this administration is maybe not the authoritarianism, but the speed of it. You know, I don't know that kind of in other countries that have undergone authoritarian consolidations, they get to the arresting journalist stage. this quickly. And, you know, I don't want to be too solipsistic about this, because, you know, journalists are, there's a, there are many, many, many people who are suffering under this, under this regime who have been threatened by this regime. I do feel like personally, you know, I have, you have kids, I have kids. When my kids ask, you know, what do we have to fear from this administration, I often tell them, you know, don't worry, they're not arresting journalists yet. We still have a way to go. And so for me personally, it feels like a step towards the abyss. Adam, the image at Georgia Fort, that Ms. Fort, posted of the DEA agents outside, you know, obviously, let's just make a bunch of obvious points. They don't have to come in the night. They don't have to show up with a bunch of DEA agents at her door. They could call her and have her turn herself in. Like, this is done as a kind of show of force to scare people and to intimidate. Yeah, that's right. And, Chris, there should be no masks on cops. Police are endowed with a tremendous amount of authority on behalf of the public, and they need to be held accountable when they abuse that authority. And the only way to do that is if we know who they are. You know, criminals wear masks because they want to be able to get away with doing things that are unspeakable. And that tells you a great deal about, you know, this administration in the way that they're using police now. Yeah, there's a reason the term secret police has this resonance. And one of the stories that was in the New York Times reporting today was about a woman who had been sort of observing ice people folks and then in Minnesota. And then they sort of let her down a bunch of streets, one-way streets, and they get out of the car and they come to her car and they start calling her by her name. because they have a facial recognition database. And to Adam's point, Michelle, it strikes me as such a perverse inversion of the privacy interests here, that the officers wielding guns, and in some cases shooting people at point-blank range in the head and killing them, have a privacy interest so strong that they can't be seen, but that citizens going about legal and constitutionally protected activity are getting captured and entered into a database.

Yes, and I mean, and we've also in, I believe it was in that same article. They talked about them having technology that can get into cell phones, that can sort of do the sort of surveillance that I think most of us grew up in a world imagining you needed a warrant to do. And I think it goes to not just the lawlessness of this administration, but to the incredibly sinister and instructive role that these tech companies that have fetid Trump that have, you know, kind of entered into these mutually financially beneficial relationships with Trump. are playing in kind of creating this dystopian surveillance state with remarkably little political debate or pushback, including by the erstwhile libertarians who, you know, who in the past have acted as if, you know, has acted as if the idea of having to carry like a national ID was some sort of. you know, kind of unimaginable futuristic nightmare in the United States. Yeah, they had a huge rebellion against TSA. And Adam, your piece from, you were just in Minnesota and wrote a phenomenal piece. I think it's you and Carrie Howley pieces are the two best pieces of reporting. I read on it. Everyone should read it. I had people actually in Minnesota tell me that the piece was so good that it put into words, things that they couldn't quite put into words. And one of the things that I encountered in Minnesota, which has really chilled me, is that, A, what's inspiring is that people are not cowed, and they are going to resist this. But it has had an effect. Like, people are scared, sometimes even a little paranoid. People are acting in ways that are the ways that you would expect people to act in an unfree society. They are, there is a kind of pervasive sense of fear of their own government that I had never quite encountered before in the same way. What was your experience? Yeah, first, I just want to say that the people who are doing this are doing it a great personal risk. I mean, they understand now that the government can kill you and then, you know, smear you as a terrorist and refuse to investigate your death if it feels like it. So every single one of these people understand that they might end up, you know, being the next Renee Good or Alex Preddy. And they're out there anyway because they want to protect their neighbors. And I thought that was an extraordinary thing to witness the level of commitment that these people have had to protecting their neighbors, to making sure they're fed, to delivering them food at home, to helping them with rent. You know, I think in some ways the horror of what the Trump administration is doing has almost obscured this incredible response.

Yes. That I think deserves to be paid attention to because I think it's the it's a kind of civic resistance that only occurs under an oppressive government. And I think it tells us a great deal about where we are as a country at this moment. You know, there's this cliche that's, you know, actually, I think pretty instructive. What if you saw in another country, right? And we've all kind of gone through this thought experiment. But, you know, from people hiding people in the back seats of cars so they could drive them around and make sure that the mass secret agents don't get them to masked secret police shooting and killing people in the middle of the street to Michelle, the director of national intelligence. running an operation that's seizing ballots from like an opposition stronghold right that's what's happening the head the spy master of the country just went to seize a bunch of ballots from the opposition stronghold in fulton county that's you know i mean it doesn't get plainer than that Right. And to bring it back to where we started, you know, journalists being arrested and the administration then, you know, kind of putting Don Lemon's face out there with a handcuff or with a chain emoji, you know, so both sort of, you know, arresting journalists and boasting about it in an attempt to intimidate other journalists. I think it's very clear, and it's hard, I think, when you're in the country to internalize it the way that it would be very obvious to you if you're watching this play out somewhere else. My hope is that people in other countries respond to this the way that they would respond to any country that they saw going down an authoritarian pathway with, you know, kind of with boycotts, with... with exerting some sort of pressure, whatever pressure they can, on behalf of, you know, kind of the people in this country that still want to be free. Yeah, I mean, is everyone just send their World Cup teams here? to like be in hotels that get raided by ice and like, and Adam, to your point, this is really important, I think. The point you made about resilience, like the one, the thing that gives me hope is that they're so obsessed with optics and they're so sort of playing things minute by minute. They don't, I think, truly appreciate how repulsed people are by all this and how organic and steely their resolve is, particularly Minnesota in the face of this. I think the issue for them is that their commitment to universalism was always superficial. It was always fake. And so they assume that their political opponents feel the same way that the left's universalism is not sincere.

that they'll abandon it under any kind of serious pressure. I think what's happened is they are surprised by the strength and resilience of people in Minnesota that they are not jettisoning their values, that they are defending their neighbors regardless of where they came from. I think they did not expect that. I think they expected to be able to go in, steamroll everybody because they believe their own hype about their own political opponents. Michelle Goldberg and Adams Hurwere. Thank you both. Appreciate it. Thank you. Coming up, another huge dump of Epstein files and some real interesting stuff in there, raising a lot more questions than answers. That's next. Watch Disclosure Day at Home Now with exclusive bonus features. If you found out we weren't alone, if someone showed you, proved it to you? Would that frighten you? While now the truth belongs to 7 billion people in an original event film directed by Steven Spielberg from a screenplay by David Kep starring Emily Blunt, Josh O'Connor, Colin Firth, Eve Hewson, and Coleman Domingo. Find Disclosure Day on major digital platforms now with no subscription required, also in theaters. Normally in these ads, you'd expect someone like me to ask you to buy something, but I want to ask you to do something different. I'm Dave Ferenthalden, and I'm a reporter for the New York Times. I'm an investigative reporter, which means that I follow the money, inside of government and outside of government. The point of my job is to find things people are trying to hide. It involves talking to lots of people. It involves looking through lots and lots of documents. And if there weren't folks like me to go beyond the surface, to understand who is really shaping what the government does, the public will be left in the dark about what the government's doing with your tax money, what the government's doing to you through regulations and spending. If you're like me and you think this kind of journalism is important, seek out a news source that does firsthand fact-based reporting. If that's the New York Times, thank you. If that's your local paper, that's great too, because where you get your information matters.

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The big, found let me start on this, right? So the big thing that was sort of pinged around social media, and I want to sort of start with that because people might have seen it, right, is there are a few incredibly upsetting, detailed allegations of really awful sexual assault engaged in by Donald Trump. I want to be very clear about the context of that information for people watching, particularly people that today saw that cross their feeds. And what that was is there was a spreadsheet that was compiled by DOJ in August of 2025. So when they were getting all these materials together because they knew presumably they would have to release them. There are a number of complaints that apparently came to the FBI from victims alleging various things. And I want to be abundantly clear that these complaints... were not necessarily substantiated, and they were not necessarily investigated by authorities. We do not know for sure that they happened, but they are compiled in this spreadsheet, and they are there. But what's really notable about that is that at one point, earlier this morning, when everything was released, is that this document was on the DOJ's website, and then it was removed. And then it was put back there with no explanation. And what's really stunning about that is that this is not the first time that happened. We remember when we had the initial drop of these documents in December, there was a photo with Donald Trump that was removed that was removed that was removed. That was removed. And so then they went in and redacted those photos of women. But again, this is now a pattern. Can I, I want to just stay on this because I think probably our viewers encounter this online today, right? Because it's like incredibly lurid and despicable and awful, right? And again, just in terms of like what, how should I think about this, the epistemic status of this thing? You're talking about the Trump allegation? Yeah. And any of those, like, I'll give a comparison. I remember when Brett Kavanaugh was facing his hearings. And at a certain point, there was like, They began to publicize every, like, tip that came into congressional offices, and it clearly included people who were very obviously mentally unwell and delusional and in creating all sorts of... And this was actually used by Republicans to kind of discredit the very real allegation that Brett Kavanaugh was facing. It was just a barrage of stuff. I was on a boat with... How do we think about the status of this stuff? I'm so glad you said that because a lot of the tips that Fallon is talking about on this spreadsheet came into the FBI through something called the National Threat Operations Center. And the last production that we saw, we saw these tips verbatim as they were called in. And as you said, many of these tips came from people who were obviously unwell. On the face of them, they contained a lot of allegations that couldn't possibly be true. things about people being in places at times that just didn't exist in real life. And I believe I could be wrong, but I think one of these included an allegation about a celebrity who's now dead. Right. So obviously, that celebrity was not bringing forward this type of an allegation. So can I, can I say something? I would compare it to the difference between some of these tips, for example, and something like the birthday book, about which I think there are legitimate questions. There was clearly a relationship between Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein that has not been thoroughly fleshed out.

My bigger concern about Donald Trump is not about the behavior that he engaged in himself, but the behavior that he witnessed and did not call to anybody's attention. He has said repeatedly that he kicked Jeffrey Epstein out of Marlago because the guy was a creep. And yet, that wasn't any information that he shared with us, the American public, much less. authorities. That, to me, is much more troubling than some of these allegations about what Donald Trump may or may not have done in the 1980s with, you know, underage girls. Okay. So then we have, we do have some documents that seem to be compiled by the Department of Justice about his inner circle, about people that he's connected to. Yeah, of course. So we learned some new names, I would say, this time. We see those emails with Elon Musk. There were some back and forth in 2012 to 2014, which is after he was a known convicted sex offender. And Elon Musk explicitly asking him, When will be the most wild day night for me to come to your island? Right. And wanting to go there with his then girlfriend for that wild party. And so there are a number of emails back and forth. We saw some other notable names. There's some email traffic with Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick. Again, I want to be really clear, though, that there is no evidence of wrongdoing from any of these people in these documents at this point, which is something that Todd Blanche had said earlier. He said, you know, all these things have been investigated and there's no need for prosecution towards anyone. But definitely. some new names today. Including the owner of the Giants, Stephen Jessica Tisch, who was actually going back and forth about essentially procuring women and dates. Yes, and asking Jeffrey Epstein if certain of the women were civilians or pros. And that, I thought, was particularly disturbing. Okay, so I want to just, the last part here, though, because it does seem like as we chip away, there is some progress here a little bit. Yes. In these documents, the Epstein case, two instrumental recruiters of children for Epstein. That's one document, and it has colon redacted names. Right. And then we also have the Jeffrey Epstein sort of map here that we just put up there, which is like the different people around him. These two feel closer to what people have been talking about vis-a-vis the Epstein files than almost anything else we've gotten. I would say, first of all, I think that the one you're talking about that sort of draws the constellation of people around Jeffrey Epstein seems to be sort of a early stage document made by people, perhaps the FBI, as they're trying to understand the Epstein orbit and universe. With respect to the document that has two redacted names with respect to recruiters, all I would say about that, Chris, is I would urge some caution about that. Because there was a period of time where the Department of Justice...

thought about certain people as criminals that we have later thought about as survivors. Correct. And people who stand in both positions. So that is just a note of caution about that. Okay. And final thing here. One of the few documents explicitly named in the law that was signed in the law is the original charging documents for the case that was worked up to charge Jeffrey Epstein in Florida that was never brought. Do we have that yet? I haven't seen that. That's the one that they wrote into the law. Ro Khanna is very focused on it, and that is one we don't appear to have yet. But that said, there are three million documents that came out today. It might be in there. Lisa Rubin, Fallon Gallagher, we're going to keep going through these. Thank you. I appreciate it. Still ahead, as Trump's DOJ still leaves many open questions with their latest document dump. Congresswoman Summer Lee on the push for full disclosure. Next. Since last year, Democrats, along with a few select Republicans, have been pressing Donald Trump's Department of Justice to release its files, all of them, related to child sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein. Among the Democrats pushing the DOJ hardest is Pennsylvania Congresswoman Summer Lee. She initiated the bipartisan effort to subpoena DOJ for release of the full unredactic files, and she joins me now. Congresswoman, you had pointed out before on this show that the law itself that was passed almost unanimously and signed into law by Donald Trump wasn't actually necessary because the DOJ could have just responded to the subpoena comprehensively. They're now 45 days late on their document production, but they have put a lot online. What's your reaction to what we're seeing today? Certainly. You know, I maintain that. At the end of the day, you know, right now they just released this pretty big tranche, you know, three million documents. You know, I think it's about half of what we expect that they have. And but they're saying right now is that this is going to be the last tranche because. Everything else is basically they're able to kind of keep away from folks because of a loophole that allows for them to conceal or to keep back any documents that are in an act of investigation. We keep referencing the subpoena from back in August because that loophole doesn't exist. There's nothing that should keep them from releasing all of the unredacted fouls. say for, of course, the identities of survivors to the committee itself. The committee is equipped to receive, you know, sensitive data, sensitive materials. That's why it's still important to note that they are still not in compliance because we also have a subpoena on top of the Epstein Transparency Act. So that's, okay, so that's interesting. I hadn't thought of that because I was a little confused by Todd Blanche saying, like, you know, there's $6 million total, there was $500,000 before, here's another three, and we're done. I was like, well, but wait, my math says that there's a lot more. And that they're saying that those are all not, those don't have to be released under the law. Your point is that there's a subpoena under which they have to be released to your committee. Yeah.

And that's a peanut is as legally binding as the law has been, right? So when we think about the fact that, you know, you said they've been 45 days late, the reality is that this has been months and months and months. The slow drip has been intentional. Of course, we just heard that they've not done any sort of expert job and redacting in the first place. So. It's very clear that they're not trying to be as transparent as they should be, that this is still obstruction and that Trump's DOJ is still unwilling to cooperate and to help it anyway to ensure that there is true accountability for the survivors, to accountability for any of the people who are being protected right now in these vows. Yeah, it does. It also seems like just at the most basic level to... An amazing way to keep the story alive is to hold back three million documents that you've told everyone that are there but they can't see. I want to do want to ask you about one individual who did show up in these documents. You might know him. His name is Elon Musk. Just reading a few Elon Musk emails to one Jeffrey Epstein in 2013, by the way. So this is not, this is after he was a convicted sex offender. And after much have been made of the kind of individual this was and the sorts of things he'd done. He's saying that it's going to be him and Chulula, his then girlfriend. What day night will be the wildest party on your island? Asking Jeffrey Epstein, like, when is the wildest party on Epstein Island going to be? He also said we'll be in BVI St. Bart's area over the holidays. Is there a good time to visit? Jeffrey Epstein says any day first through eighth, play it by year if you want. Always space for you. And also, Elon Musk gave him a tour apparently at Space X. When can Elon Musk meet Je at Space X? So it does seem like the two men had perhaps more contact than previously was realized. Listen. This is what I will say. We have, and I will say that oversight dems, we've maintained from the very beginning that no matter who it is, we want to ensure that there is accountability, whether that person is a Democrat. or a Republican or a prince or a president, right? My issue is, is that when, you know, Elon Musk or President Trump shows up in these fouls, you know, there's a deafening silence. But when it's, you know, other folks, you know, there is this rush to say, listen, we're telling you it's a Democratic thing. This is what makes me think that they are not being honest, that they're not being, that they're not just being serious about real accountability and about true transparency. There should be more of a push to make sure that we're bringing them in. The Republicans, when we got that subpoena back in July, they were intent on making sure that we also subpoenaed other people. They did not subpoena. They have not yet subpoenaed Elon Musk. They have not subpoenaed the president himself. And these are all people who we now know are in the fouls. I would like them to keep that same energy so that we can actually get to the bottom of this.

And I want to be very clear here, there is no accusation of wrongdoing against Elon Musk. Appearing in the files does not imply wrongdoing, particularly certainly not at a criminal level. But it is also the case that... people are allowed to form their reputational conclusions about public figures in the world who are, for instance, in one case, Larry Summers, seeking dating advice about how to date a student from Elon Musk, from Jeffrey Epstein, or procuring dates with women, or asking which will be the wildest part of your island. Everyone's allowed to have reputational conclusions around that. And do in any, in every instance, right, we call it guilt by association. Now, I'm not somebody who is actually proposing guilt by association. Right. No, there's right. That we release. every single document that exists with the DOJ right now that we carry on with our investigation through the Oversight Committee. We have work to do still, right? We have subpoenas that are still out for Deutsche Bank, for JP Morgan, right? We have a subpoena for Ghislaine Maxwell because we actually are trying to do an honest fact-finding mission. And, you know, the survivors, they've told us to follow the money. Many names will pop up. I'll tell you what, though, when we have seen everything that there is to see, when we can assure that there are no more secrets, will be able to draw better conclusions. So until those files are release, until they stop this drip, yeah, many people are going to be guilty or at least they're going to suffer through the insinuation and through guilt by association. This is now, you know, they're doing this to themselves at this point. All right, Congresswoman Summerlee, thank you so much your time. Thank you. Still to come as thousands of Minnesotans march today in protest of Trump's oppression, the surge of people standing up for America. That's next. Hey, everybody, it's Rob Lowe here. If you haven't heard, I have a podcast. That's called Literally with Roblo. And basically, it's conversations I've had that really make you feel like you're pulling up a chair at an intimate dinner between myself and people that I admire, like Aaron Sorkin or Tiffany Haddish, Demi Moore, Chris Pratt, Michael J. Fox. There are new episodes out every Thursday. So subscribe, please, and listen, wherever you get your podcasts. I like things my way, my coffee, my schedule, and my treatment. So I talked to my doctor about self-injecting with the Vivgard-Hitrilo-pre-filled syringe, which contains F-Gar-Tigamodalpha and highlaronidase QVC. It's injected under your skin subcutaneously. It means I can inject in my space on my time.

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That point you made about Ice Watch trainings, I want to say this because I've struggled with how to say this since getting back from Minnesota, but we use the term protest a lot, and obviously like the big marches are protests. But 99% of what's happening in the Twin Cities right now, and this has also been true in places like Chicago and Los Angeles, it's been true in the last week in Maine, where they've had a sort of smaller version of this. 99% of it, I wouldn't even describe as protest. I mean, it's... It's very concerted sort of tactical efforts to nonviolently jam a crowbar in the wheels of the mass deportation machine. To basically stand up for people however you can in this very tangible way. And in a way that, again, comes with genuine physical risk as we have seen. Yeah. I think you're pointing to something very real here, which is that a protest, even a historic protest, like a no king's protest, is a tactic. And a tactic should fit into a strategy, and a strategy should help you achieve your goal. Our goal is simple. We want to safeguard American democracy and prevent the authoritarian from cementing control over all the levers of power. Our strategy to get there is also simple. Organized, nonviolent. overwhelming people power. And one of the tactics is a massive national protest that welcomes in new people that pops the bubble of inevitability and invincibility from this regime. But it can only be one of the tactics because what we're seeing in the Twin Cities is exactly what you said. It's not just protests. It's people putting their shoulders against the regime and stopping the attack on their neighbors using their constitutional rights. exercising their constitutional rights to protect them. And if we are going to get through this year, Chris, it's going to take more than just protest. It's going to take more than just training. It's going to take more than just the historic level of showing up that we've seen. We're going to have to learn from the Twin Cities and replicate what they've been doing on the ground there in communities across the country. That's where we're headed. No Kings is a way for us to take steps in that direction. But that is the end point, is ultimately, winning and safeguarding elections with mass public involvement at the local level. Yeah, this point, this post you guys had, the date for the next no Kings Day is set, but this is a save the date, not a sit back and wait, which I think is an important point. I want to just play about, you know, we all talk about like it's very cold Minnesota and it becomes this kind of background, almost, you know, cliche. Truly, it is incredibly cold. And truly, there is a difference between people coming out in that weather and coming out in the middle of May or June. I want to just show this little clip. If we have it from Chicago, as the march there with, I think, a ton of people was ending and they were just like absolutely outside in the snow. And they are cheering, I believe, I believe that we will win as they are in the... loop in whiteout conditions. Ezra Levin. Thank you so much. Really appreciate it. Thank you, Chris. We'll be right back. That does it for All In. You can catch us every weeknight at 8 o'clock on MS now. Don't forget to like us on Facebook. That's Facebook.com slash all on with Chris. Hey, everybody. It's Roblo here. If you haven't heard.

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