All In with Chris HayesMarch 18, 202642m

Top counterterrorism official resigns over Iran war

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Good evening from New York. I'm Chris Hayes. It is a Tuesday in this election year, which means polls have just closed in the state of Illinois tonight, the important primaries ahead of November's midterm elections. We're going to cover some really interesting races there, including an open Senate seat to replace the retiring Democrat Dick Durbin and a very competitive primary in the deep blue ninth congressional district to replace retiring. Congresswoman Jan Jukowski. We will have Ali Valshi at the big board to break down all the results as soon as we get them. We begin, however, tonight with Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu's war with Iran now entering its third week. According to officials, nearly 1,500 people have been killed in Iran, nearly 1,000 in Lebanon. As many as a million displaced, 15 have died in Israel, at least 78 in the surrounding Gulf states. And of course, 13 American service members have lost their lives, and 200 more have been injured. The family of one of those service members, Tyler Simmons of the Air Force, spoke out against this war of choice. This could have been prevented. We didn't need to be in this war. You know, this is uncalled for. And this is what we get. Families are suffering right now. Not only our family, but there are other families that lost loved ones just to create a war because you want to create a war. It's not right. It is not right. There is, of course, as you see there, a real, very real human cost to this war. And too often, I think it gets reduced to an abstraction. I mean, the White House is posting, like, video game memes, as if it's all just some, like, joke. And that's really been the kind of theme from the White House, the sort of utter indifference from the commander-in-chief to the seriousness of what he started, to the seriousness of the loss of life. I mean, last week, his PAC sent out a fundraising email. You see that? Look at that. Featuring a photo of Trump at the dignified transfer of U.S. service members killed in Kuwait. Fundraising off the service members who just died in the war he started, all while wearing that branded Trump USA baseball hat, which is available for purchase on his website. When confronted with that email, Trump seemed fine with it.

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I was at the dignified transfer, unlike other people, unlike who else? The other presidents of the United States, they should have been there too? Like, you want an award for showing up for the dignified transfer of the U.S. service members coming home in caskets from the war you started? That fundraising email, by the way, promises to give supporters access to presumably classified defense briefings, quote, listen, as a national security briefing member, you'll receive my private national security briefings unfiltered updates on the threats facing America. Okay? Also, it should not go without saying there is nothing for Trump to be fundraising for. What's he fundraising for? Can't run for president again. There's no campaign. Where's that money going to go, the money that you give him when you click the button underneath the photo of him saluting the soldiers who came home having lost their lives? Notably, apart from the photo in a passing reference to, quote, obliterating terrorists, the email also doesn't actually reference the war at all. And that makes sense, considering it is currently causing a pretty significant schism among his base and polling underwater. Today, we got the first senior member of the administration. quitting over the war, the director of the National Counterterrorism Center, a charitably, I'll call him a right-wing crank named Joe Kent, resigned from his position in protest of the war. In his letter, he wrote, I cannot in good conscience support the ongoing war in Iran. Iran posed no imminent threat to our nation, and it is clear that we started this war due to pressure from Israel and its powerful American lobby. Kent is a veteran who deployed to combat 11 times. He also lost his wife, a military cryptologist in a suicide attack in Syria. He is a twice-failed congressional candidate with ties to white nationalists and the proud boys. He's closely aligned with the Tucker Carlson, even the Nick Fuentes wing of the Republican Party, which, let's say, is vocally non-interventionist, among some other things. The White House is now bashing Kent as a leaker. Now, after the fact they clearly wanted us to believe that Trump wanted him gone the whole time, right? He can't quit. He was going to be fired. In fact, a senior administration official went to Fox News to say that Trump had already told Kent's boss, Tulsi Gabbard, to fire him. Something that, by the way, only Trump himself had the authority to do. And for what it's worth, an administration official told him as now, Tulsi Gabbard was never instructed to fire Kent. So now... Trump is attacking the guy. He personally chose to run the counter-terrorism operations in this country. Well, I read his statement. I always thought he was a nice guy, but I always thought he was weak on security, very weak on security. I didn't know him well, but I thought he seemed like a pretty nice guy. But when I read a statement, I realized that... it's a good thing that he's out because he said that Iran was not a threat. Iran was a threat. Every country realized what a threat Iran was. Point of fact, what Kent sent was that Iran was not an imminent threat. But, I mean, take a step back for a second. This is what the President of the United States says he thinks of the man who ran the National Counterterrorism Center until this morning, that he was a nice guy but bad on security.

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Like, you know, had some good qualities, a nice guy, but also some bad qualities wasn't good on security, which is why I named him the head of counterterrorism. A man that Trump himself appointed ushered through Senate confirmation. That's not the only about face we got from the president today. In fact, we tend to get like a dozen a day. Over the weekend, Trump mused about a kind of new coalition of the willing to join together with the United States in this war, specifically to help defend ships in the Strait of Hormuz. Quote, this should have always been a team effort. Now it will be. It will bring the world together towards harmony, security, and everlasting peace. But as it turns out, no one wanted to come to Trump's party. And now he says they were never invited anyway. Quote, because of the fact that we've had such military success, we no longer need or desire the NATO country's assistance. We never did. Of course, the decision was not his. Our allies want nothing to do with this war. Today's Britain's national security advisor who was in the room during nuclear negotiations between the U.S. and Iran, which continued right up until the war started, echoed what the government of Oman has said, that Iran made serious concessions and a deal was within reach before Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu blew it all up and went to war instead. The consequences for that decision are going to reverberate for a long time. Senator Chris Murphy, Democratic Connecticut, serves on the Foreign Relations Committee, and he joins me now. Let me just start on this. You know, the bar is high for me to be shocked these days. Obviously, I got to say, I was genuinely shocked by the fundraising email with the president saluting U.S. service members who had given their lives in Kuwait, and I wonder if you've felt the same. Yeah, I mean, I think you just have to understand that the White House is a 24-7 grift operation. Yeah, it's probably true. The president didn't know that email went out, but he has hired people to work for him that are just like him using their proximity to power to make money. Where does all of that money go that you're donating? He's not running for reelection. It goes into this vast Trump consultancy. that is run by people close to the president and relatives of the president. So when you are donating to get your national security briefing, you're just giving money to the griff. There is somebody becoming a millionaire based upon your donation. So you just have to remember that that's what most everybody around Trump works on every day is just personal enrichments. They spend a very small portion of their day, I imagine, working on things like... you know, security and lowering costs and protecting the nation. On the point of security and the recently resigned head of the National Counterterrorism Center who the president said today he never thought was great on security, again, I got to say I, you know, I think it's inarguable that the war has probably increased the threat of some sort of terrorist attacks or attacks against civilians in the U.S. We've got...

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dozens to be possibly hundreds of FBI agents with expertise in that who have been pulled off of that expertise and either been let go by the Bureau or transferred to other things. And now the head of the National Counterterrorism Center has quit. And I got to say, like, I do not feel confident at all in this government's ability to stop attacks like that. How do you feel? You don't? You don't feel confident that this group of fringy clowns and gadflies are going to properly protect the United States. And listen, Joe Kent was a weird guy, right? He was a fringy gadfly. But the problem is everybody else working at the high levels of American national security are fringy gadflies. Tulsi Gabbard, right, a conspiracy theorist who seems to spend most of her time. these days trying to get close to the president by conjuring up reasons why he actually won the 2020 election is actually in charge of tracking intelligence relative to individuals who want to do harm against the United States. You mentioned that Kash Patel, when he came into the FBI, cleared out everybody who had experience in tracking domestic threats. We have seen an uptick. over the last couple weeks in potential terrorists attacks, many of them targeting Jewish communities. Now, that may or may not be connected to the fact that we've stood down our ability to track these terrorists, but there are going to be consequences here domestically. because we are not watching the folks who may want to do harm to us. That's just a consequence of what they've done at the FBI and at the Department of Homeland Security. Today in the Senate, the number one priority for the president, he says it's only legislative priority, which is this sort of voter suppression bill that would create all sorts of insane logistical hurdles to vote, get rid of mail-in voting, possibly make tens of millions of married women have to bring their passport or get new papers to vote. Republicans are pushing it on the floor. It's going to die, right? They're not going to kill the filibuster over it. I guess it's the short version. Yeah, I don't think this is going to succeed. They would have to change the rules because there's not a single Democrat. that thinks the biggest problem facing this country is fake voter fraud. But, you know, there's two things happening here. One, the president is desperate to turn the story. This war is wildly unpopular. Gas prices are going up and food prices are soon to follow. But he also has kind of run out of traditional paths to win for his party to win this November. So the only thing he has left to do is to try to rig the electorate. And one of the things

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this bill does is for states to hand over their voter files to the federal government, which will allow the federal government, which will allow Stephen Miller and others to create some pretext to try to throw out some portion of the results. So, you know, this is where we've gotten to that the president is forced to try to meddle in the elections because he can't win any other way. I want to ask you finally a question about prediction markets, Kalshi, Polly Market. You've been talking a lot about them. I think a lot of people have a basic intuition that like betting on. The deaths of other people or wars is weird and unseemly and will possibly lead to some terrible outcomes. We've seen in sports, athletic figures, including college athletes, being berated by people who lost bets because they didn't get a rebound. Well, we have our first example of a war reporter getting this. The Washington Post reporting on a Times of Israel reporter who's been getting death threats because of something he reported about an Iranian strike. that lost someone money because they bet about the strike on polymarket. And this, I think this is the first example I've seen of this, but I just was curious to get your reaction to it because you've been ringing the alarm bells about how insidious this entire thing. I introduced legislation with Representative Greg Kassar today to ban the ability for these prediction markets to offer bets on government action. And it's just insidious because we know that there have been people inside the Trump White House that have been making bets. on war with Iran. Now, nobody should be making money off of life and death. These are essentially bets on when dozens of people are going to die in Israel or in Iran. But it's worse than that because it allows people close to the president who have made a bet on, let's say, a strike happening on a particular day to give advice to the president based on what makes them money rather than what's best for national security. So there should be a complete prohibition on anybody being able to wager on life, death, famine, or frankly, any other national security decision that's being made at the White House. And hopefully people will see some merit in our legislation. That seems evidently sensible to me. Senator Chris Murphy. Thanks for your time tonight. Thank you. Still ahead. Pete Buttigieg, David Miliband, and the first results from tonight's primary in Illinois. Look at that. We're getting some numbers, some real numbers. Get back in. Ali Velshi, join me at the big board to break it all down next.

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It is election night again, this time in Illinois, where polls closed just minutes ago in heated primaries should replace some high-profile Democrats retiring from Congress. In the Senate, for example, Dick Durbin, the chamber's second highest ranking Democrat is not seeking re-election. Primary voters across the state weighed in on who should take his spot in November's midterm. Also, some big House races, in particular the ninth congressional district, where longtime Democratic Congresswoman Janjikowski, progressive stalwart, is also retiring. Today, voters chose from a dozen candidates to advance the general. Join me now from the big board. MS Now's chief data reporter, Ali Valshi. Ali, how you doing? Good. And you're right. It's an exciting night in Illinois. We do not have any... numbers in from the house races. But if you look around Chicago and Chicago is one interesting shaped place when you look at all these districts, there are five open house seats around Chicago. One is uncontested. So there are four that we're watching very closely. You and I were talking a little bit about the 7th District 7 in Illinois. District 9 is the other one you were just talking about. There are a lot of candidates in here. We're very interested to see a lot of parties involved in financing what's going on here. The person to watch, as you've been talking about for the last couple of nights, is Kat Abu Ghazale, who would. if elected, be the youngest woman ever elected to Congress. He's 26 years old right now. So we're going to watch that very closely. As you mentioned, the Senate race is very interesting. We do have some numbers coming in. Most of these are just early numbers, so it's just 2% of the race right now. You can see there's no day of there. But take a look at how this is looking. Let's get to the other side of the page. Roger Christianemorthy in the lead, 49% right now. Julianna Stratton, who is the deputy, the lieutenant governor of... Illinois is coming in second with 33%. Robin Kelly, a member of Congress, coming in with 9%. This is about where we thought things would be. The polling is a little sketchy. It's hard to get a read on it, but Roger Krishna-Morthy is outspent everybody, and he's a five-term congressman. It looks like we thought he would be in the lead. The question here is, and there's a lot of politics around these two women. Juliana Stratton, $12 million was raised for her by the governor, J.B. Pritzker. Five million of that wasn't. money. The Congressional Black Caucus is supporting Robin Kelly, and they felt that the involvement of J.B. Pritzker and Julianna Stratton's campaign is going to dilute the black vote between these two women. But as you can see, they're not even adding up at the moment to what Krishna-Morti has got, but it's very early. This is 2% in weather's been tough. So that's a bit of a problem because turnout has been a little bit depressed. But as you can see, we'll wait to see some real numbers before. deciding on this race. All right, All right, Allie. Thanks for that. We'll be checking back in throughout the night. Michelle Goldberg is an opinion columnist in your Times, Fasat Shakir, senior advisor for Senator Bernie Sanders, and they join me now. Michelle, what's interesting about tonight's races is, you know, in other places, like in Texas, for instance, We were covering that a week or two ago, or in Maine, you're making this calculation of like, who do I like and also who do I think can win in a difficult contested race? In these races, in a state like Illinois senator or these congressional races, you're not, these are pretty safe Democratic seats. And so in some senses, you can sort of take a little temperature of where the kind of, you know, primary voting base electorate of the Democratic Party's at.

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Right. I mean, and that's why the 9th District in particular is so interesting. Because on the one hand, you have, I think, you know, although the Polesman Close, you have in the lead, Daniel Biss, who is kind of a standard progressive, I think was endorsed by Elizabeth Warren. And then, as you said, you have Kat Abugzala, who I hope I didn't mispronounce her name, but who is. you know, kind of much more of an up-and-coming squad-style progressive, you know, a Palestinian woman, a person who has made both Palestinian rights and migrant rights central to her campaign, somebody who was arrested in the protests outside one of these detention centers. And so, yeah, I think the question is, you know, how left... does the Democratic electorate, or at least this Democratic electorate, kind of want to go? Like, how much do they want to break with the Democratic status quo? The other big sort of theme here, FAS, is super PAC money, outside money by, in the Citizens United era. And we're seeing it coming very heavily in the primaries. Of course, this is all just going to be a run up to what it's going to be like in these midterms. Here are some of the biggest, the sort of biggest interest so far. A PAC and Align groups, this is just in Illinois, have spent about $20 million on these races. Crypto has spent 14. AI, two and a half million. All of there's 20 million. There's also about two and a half million from sports betting. I just don't think it's the greatest thing in the world to have this situation when I look at those numbers. I imagine you agree. But I think it's also like there's something really perverse here, which is that they tend not to actually run ads about the thing they care about. So you're not even actually getting like public debate on AI crypto or U.S. policy towards Israel. You're just getting them slagging whoever they think is going to be. most antagonistic to their interest. Right, to flesh that out, and you said APAC and aligned groups. Who are these aligned groups? Well, they're called elect Chicago women or Chicago progressive group or the affordability now group. These are the front names of APAC. And as you're stating, if APAC has a position in the view on the Iran War or the relationship with Israel, come right out and state it and tell us about which candidate that you believe is best representing. Israel's interests and which one is not. Instead, they're running from their damaged brand. They're not having the discourse that we actually need. We should debate the Iran war. It is actually stifling a lot of the conversation, quite frankly, because you see a lot of the leading candidates who are receiving money from APEG generally being silent about the Iran war. So it is actually prohibiting the kind of public discourse and debate that we need. And I hope the Democratic Party gets control over its own primaries and learns, because this has been a poster child of the most dysfunctional, broken and ugly campaign finance election.

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we've had yet. Yeah, it's really crazy, too. Like, we've also seen Michelle, like, in this district, you know, there's a district, Daniel Biss, who's, you know, who's a sort of, I would say, like, liberal Zionists, you know, critical of the Israeli government, Jewish American, who, you know, I think is a supporter of Israel's a Jewish state. You know, he has gotten a ton of anti. APEC money against him. We saw this with Tom Nelanowski. That may end up pushing voters towards the person that sort of do his left on this issue, which we also saw in New Jersey. So it seems like there's a very even strange set of tactical decisions being made here. Well, I think that, I mean, there's a lot of reasons that people are mad at APEC, but one reason is one reason that people, I think, who maybe are more sympathetic to the liberal Zionist position are angry at APEC is because they take this. maximalist and in some cases even counterproductive position. So yes, you would think that in a race like Illinois 9, they would be most threatened by Kat Abu Ghazala and would want to elevate Daniel Bis, who, you know, yeah, a liberal Zionist who grew up in Israel, whose mother is Israeli. But what really threatens APEC we see in race after race are candidates who they know can't be dismissed as just sort of anti-Israel fanatics, but who are very, very critical of the current Israeli government and of Israeli policy. And so, you know, yes, we saw them do this with Tom Malinowski. We saw them take out Andy Levin, you know, a Jewish Democrat. in Michigan because of his advocacy for a two-state solution. I mean, so what APEC wants is not just to keep Democrats and kind of lockstep, well, I think they've lost that battle of keeping Congress and lockstep behind their vision of pro-Israel policy. But they also seem to want to make it impossible for anybody to present a kind of moderate, a decent Zionist alternative. And needless to say, it's also, you know, Chris real quickly, is that for those of us who are trying to fight anti-Semitism, it is not doing a service to that. It is inflaming, sadly, the anger and hatred towards pro-Israel groups engaging in elections. It doesn't do service when you hide your message, when you have front groups, when you engage on the issues of Iran in a deceptive way, it is only going to create more animosity out there. And I hope that those of us who are trying to fight anti-Semitism understand and know that this isn't the way you do it. I just also want to note that we've got that there's AI spending also happening in this race, Jesse Jackson Jr., who has benefited from like $1.4 million by AI groups. He wrote an op-ed sort of talking about AI and care in the future. I mean, this also, this is a bell that hasn't quite rung FAS quickly here in the primaries, but like there's going to be hundreds of millions or not billions of dollars of AI money in this midterm. The AA, AA PACs, as we refer to them, right? American Israel PAC and then artificial intelligence packs, both of them being the major impact influencers in this election cycle. And I think, as you know, on the other issue of data centers in America, there is a community revolt all across this country. When NBC did a poll recently found the Democratic Party brand was flagging, but even less popular than that was AI. There's so much anger, and right now that debate also is being throttled and not being fully aired because of the amount of money being spent in these elections.

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Yes. None of it, none of, no one's actually articulating their views, which is what makes us also perverse. Michelle Goldberg, Fashekeir. Thank you both. Still ahead. Donald Trump's top economy guy says they don't care about American consumers. Pete Buttigieg tells me why that's bad. Next. Watch Disclosure Day at home now with exclusive bonus features. If you found out we weren't alone, if someone showed you, proved it to you. Would that frighten you? While now the truth belongs to 7 billion people in an original event film directed by Steven Spielberg from a screenplay by David Kep starring Emily Blunt, Josh O'Connor, Colin Firth, Eve Hewson, and Coleman Domingo. Find Disclosure Day on major digital platforms now with no subscription required, also in theaters. You know that thing where you get an amazing pair of shoes at a really great price and want to tell everyone about it? Yeah, so do we. Here at Designer Shoe Warehouse, we'll give you something to brag about. Like the latest styles from brands you love, or the trends everyone's obsessing over. Or shoes that make you feel like, well, you. So go ahead, show off a little. Buying shoes that get you have prices that get your budget. Head to your DSW store or DSW.com today. DSW. Let us surprise you. This is a Monday.com ad. The same Monday.com designed for every team. The same Monday.com with built-in AI, scaling your work from day one. The same Monday.com with an easy and intuitive setup. Go to Monday.com and try it for free. If you could say something to President Trump and he was going to hear you right now, what would it be? You are a worthless pile of shit. And you voted for him how many times? Three times. That was my bad. Apparently, I'm an idiot. Well, that's just one voter's view on things. We're now in the third week of the U.S. Israel War on Iran. Oil prices are still high, as you can see there, for that woman. People are not happy about it, like the Trump supporter you just heard. The price of diesel, which is the fuel, of course, used in trucks, trains, barges to transport goods, has now topped $5 a gallon, and it's the first time it's hit that price since the Russian invasion of Ukraine in 2022. There are all kinds of reasons for Americans to be worried a... about the economic fallout from this war. But don't worry, Donald Trump's top economic advisor says consumers are literally the last of their concerns right now. The fact is that the US economy is fundamentally sound and that if it were to be extended, it wouldn't really disrupt the US economy very much at all. It would hurt consumers and we'd have to think about if that continued what we would have to do about that. But that's like really the last of our concerns right now because we're very confident that this thing is going ahead of schedule.

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People would have registered as Secretary of Transportation in the Biden administration, and he joins me now. Mr. Secretary, I was thinking about the fact that you were in the administration when this enormous supply shock happened back when Russia invaded Ukraine. And one of the things that we saw was it all sort of cascading effects of that. Now this time, a supply shock initiated basically by actions the administration took, not some sort of exogenous event. What do you learn in that position about... those effects the first time around. Yeah, usually you're trying to fight those kinds of price effects that consumers are facing, not doing what the Trump administration is doing, which is actively causing them. Vladimir Putin launched a war. The result was that there were supply shocks and oil went up. And then we all did everything that we could in the administration and all of us as Americans did what we could to deal with that. Here you have a very different situation. The president launched a war of choice, and now we're all dealing with the consequences. And the people who are paying the heaviest price, of course, are the service members, many of whom have given their lives and over 200 have reportedly been injured. But also, every American is paying the price. Mortgage rates are going up because of this war. Grocery prices are going to go up because of this war. And of course, the price of gas is already way up because of Donald Trump's war. How worried are you about the timing here and what that means? I mean, there's all this kind of talk about, well, you know, if the president declares victory after a few weeks, then it's all manageable. But again, to go back to your experience watching how this sort of ricocheted throughout the entire economy, and particularly the American transportation infrastructure from trucking to planes, what's your sort of guideline for how you think about the duration and its effects? I mean, having worked the issue of supply chains, both during the shock created by the Russia War and the shock created by COVID, I can tell you that they are often a very delicate balance, and there are ripple effects through the American economy that nobody can fully predict. But, you know, I'm not just thinking about this in terms of the experience that I had working on issues like supply chains. I'm also thinking about this from the experience that I had being sent to war on the orders of a president more than a decade after. that war had begun and years before that war would finish. When you have this kind of open-ended war, remember, there's no clear definition of what victory even consists of. The president has variously said that we've already won and that we could be doing it for much, much longer. You know, that is something that is a huge pressure on our troops, on their families, but also a huge pressure on the country because the truth is there is no way to know. when this conflict will end, in particular, because there's no way to know when the Straits of Hormuz will be reopened. We're the Secretary of Defense, or Secretary of War, if he prefers, say that the Strait of Hormuz is open other than the fact that there are Iranians shooting at ships that try to go through it. As long as that remains true, there's going to be enormous uncertainty and pain at the pump for every American. There's also been a lot of pain in airports around the country, I think for a bunch of complicated reasons, but partly having to do with this lapse in funding for DHS. Democrats have tried to propose some just like standalone TSA funding bills.

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on a bipartisan basis. Those have been blocked by Republicans. Republicans want to fund all of DHS. There's increasing negotiations. Today, an offer from the administration where they ignored a bunch of Democrats' top priorities, including blocking immigration officers from wearing masks, requiring them to obtain warrants from judges to enter private homes or businesses, though they did agree to not, and I'm quoting here, deport U.S. citizens. Do you think Democrats should hold the line here based on what you've seen of the offer from the administration about funding DHS? Yeah, I mean, it is, of course, insane that it takes Democrats pushing the administration for them to say that they're not going to deport U.S. citizens. But the broader point here is it doesn't have to be this way. We are seeing longer and longer lines at the airports because Republicans refuse Democratic proposals to fund TSA. Remember, Democrats in Congress are ready to fund everything in the Department of Homeland Security, except for the parts where there are the big problems to be negotiated over, ICE and... and Border Patrol for very good reasons. ICE has been given a bigger budget than the FBI itself already and clearly not using those in a way that's making Americans safer. Border Patrol has yet to be held accountable for killing an American citizen in Minneapolis, which is of course nowhere near the American border. So until those issues are resolved, I think you're going to continue to see Americans expecting our leaders to stand up and deal with it. But in the meantime, as far as these TSA officers who deserve to be paid, who are showing up to work every day, and everybody else fulfilling an important mission at the Department of Homeland Security while those ICE and Border Patrol issues get negotiated. Everything else, that could end tomorrow. Republicans could end it. But, you know, I just heard John Cornyn saying that it was, quote, not acceptable to just go ahead and fund TSA. So let's be very clear who's standing in the way of resolving those issues. All right, former Secretary of Transportation. We paid Judge. Thanks so much for your time tonight. Thank you. Could be with you. I want to go back to Ali Valshi at the big board because we've got more results coming in from Illinois. Yeah. First of all, the Senate race, we've got a third to vote in. However, it's still not day of votes. I just want to point that out. This is still a lot of early vote. But look at these numbers with 32% in. Juliana Stratton is at 39%. Roger Krishna-Morthy is at 33%. Robin Kelly's at 20%. So this is going to be an interesting race to watch for the rest of the night. It's interesting to see these numbers coming in. I want to take you to the Democratic primaries. You and I were talking a little bit about the ninth in Illinois. This is just north of Chicago. 74% of the vote is already in here. This is interesting. Daniel Bliss, who is the mayor of Evanston, Illinois, probably got the most name recognition in the race, is running at 30%, 30%, almost 31%. Kat Abugazala has now moved up. She was in third or fourth place. She's moved into second place with 23%. Laura Fine, who was a leading candidate and benefited from a lot of outside funding that you were talking about, is at 21%. So this is essentially. a three-person race in Illinois nine right now. Again, 74%. It's a lot, but there's enough vote to come in to sort of figure out where the differences are going to be. So again, we're watching all of these races. The five open seats in Illinois, they're all in the Chicago area, open seats. So whoever wins that.

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probably likely to win the election in November. No flips there. And then this particular race and the Senate race. It's closer than we expected. Yeah. And we should note, unlike Texas, you don't have to get 50%. Correct. Just first pass the post and they get the nomination. Thank you, Allie. We'll be right back. At DSW, we ask the important questions. Like, what shoes are you going to wear? Whether you're prepping for wedding season, festival season, or just planning the ultimate vacay, the right shoes can make or break an RSVP. So own the moment. You've got big plans and we've got just the shoes at the perfect price, of course. Get ready to get ready with designer shoe warehouse. Head to your DSW store or DSW.com today. And let us surprise you. In the U.S., there's a break-in every 26 seconds. But when intruders step near, Simply Safe home security steps up. Stop. This is SimplySafe. Police are on the way. Using AI alerts, U.S.-based live agents help deter break-ins. Simply safe, no long-term contracts. Save 50% on your new system with professional monitoring at Simplysafe.com slash SXM or with promo code SXM. Outdoor deterrence requires a Simplysafe Active Guard outdoor protection plan starting at $49.99 a month. Visit Simplysafe.com slash licenses for alarm licensed information, Tennessee 2012. Some say Odu business management software is like fertilizer because of the way it promotes growth. Some say Odu is like a magic beanstalk, scaling with you while being magically affordable. And some say Odu's programs for manufacturing, accounting, and more are like building blocks for creating a custom software suite. But I say Odo is all of it. Fertilizer magic beanstock building blocks for business. Yeah. Odu. exactly what every business needs. Sign up at odoo.com. That's odio.com. Donald Trump hosted the Irish Prime Minister in the Oval Office on this St. Patrick's Day. And of course, the event turned into another confusing session of Trump ranting against our own allies. Came after this kind of bizarre, humiliating few days for Trump because over the weekend, remember he posted on social media, quote, many countries will be sending warships in conjunction with the U.S. to keep the strait of hormones open and safe, basically begging China, France, Japan, South Korea, the UK, and others to bail him out with their ships. Yesterday, the Wall Street Journal reported his efforts had been in vain, the German defense minister asking rhetorically what Trump expects, quote, a handful or two handfuls of European frigates to accomplish in the Strait of Hormuz that the powerful U.S. Navy that cannot achieve on its own. He added, this is not our war. We did not start it. This morning, Trump again went on social media to insist, quote, we no longer need or desire the NATO country's assistance. We never did. Repeating in all caps, we do not need the help of anyone.

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Thank you for your attention to this matter. David Miliband served as Foreign Secretary of the United Kingdom, is now the president's CEO of the International Rescue Committee, and he joins me now. It's good to have you here. Thanks, Chris. What did you make of this episode of the president sort of trying to Jedi mind trick the UK and Germany into escorting trips? Of course, Ireland is a neutral nation, not a NATO member. For Europeans, NATO is a defensive alliance. An attack on one is an attack on all. That's why they rallied after 9-11. committed troops to Afghanistan. I think for the moment, what Europeans see is what we've described at the International Rescue Committee, we're a humanitarian organization, not a political one, as a triple emergency that's brewing up. There's the emergency on the ground. We don't have people in Iran. We do have a lot of people in Lebanon working there. A million people displaced, one in every six of the population, displaced by the conflict. Second part of the emergency. That chokehold on the Straits of Hormuz isn't just pushing up gas prices in America. It's... putting up food prices around the world, 30% of the world's fertilizer goes through the Straits of Hormuz. So it's as well as 20% of all the world's oil and gas. So it's a direct hit on the food prices of the most vulnerable. And then thirdly, of course, there's the danger of wider collapse, the bigger geopolitics, whether this is a gift that's going to boost President Vladimir Putin and its impact on Ukraine. So for Europeans, they're thinking, yes, we need a solution on the Straits of Hormuz. issue, but there's a wider set of emergencies that are emerging. The second point you just raised there, I had, I guess, thought of, but not enough, because we've framed all this understandably, I think, through the American political context, particularly about gas prices and prices here. Generally, people are, you know, it's the number one thing they tell pollsters. No one wants to pay more. They already feel like you're paying too much. But in parts of the world, this is, you know, we're talking about the folks who are living on $5 a day. Two dollars. I mean, less. 300 million people in the world at an acute crisis level of what they call food insecurity. That means hunger. 340 million of them, 60 million in the Middle East. Flower prices have gone up 270% in Gaza since the war. began, that's in the region. Obviously, the great fear is that in Sudan, the world's biggest humanitarian crisis, in Somalia, the knock-on effects of us are really dire. There's also the migration issue. One of the things that's sort of crazy about this, I mean, we all went through this where you have the rise of this sort of anti-immigrant populist right here in the U.S., in the UK, your home country, in continental Europe, particularly. A lot of that happened around refugee crises that happened in the Middle East, particularly in the Syrian Civil War and controversies over accepting refugees and asylum seekers from that war, particularly in Germany. Here we are again. It feels like sort of doing the same thing we do. It was like creating refugees and then...

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You know, getting mad at people that try to flee. Well, it's a good point, except Iran is four times the size of Syria. Syria was just 25 million people. This is 90 million people. Right. If you had some sort of like state collapse there, you're talking about something that's... would dwarf the seismic effects of that happening in Syria. Exactly. And that's not happening at the moment. People are fleeing from Tehran. 100,000 people have left Tehran, we believe. There's actually people going back to Syria, which is interesting, from Lebanon, because they're fleeing the fighting there. We think probably even 100,000 have gone back since the war began over the last two weeks. So you're right to see the people movements. This is a hyper-connected world. And the ricochet effects happen very, very quickly. Unfortunately, if the war stops today, then that doesn't mean things get better tomorrow because the knock-on effects are very significant. We look, just my own organization, we've got $160,000 worth of medical supplies stuck in the Straits of Hormuz because there's a humanitarian, a global humanitarian hub in Dubai. Right. Our materials are stuck there too. That's a direct hit on the people who are trying to serve in Lebanon and elsewhere. There was reporting today in the British press I want to ask you about, where a UK security advisor who was part of those U.S. Iran talks basically said a deal was within reach, and that's something that certainly sounds plausible because it's precisely what the Omani is who were sort of, you know. running shuttle diplomacy there. Does this look avoidable to you? Well, look, our negotiations with the Iranians go back a very long way. In my three years, as Foreign Secretary, we had extensive negotiations with the Iranians. Jonathan Jerome Powell, it's the National Security Advisor, so Marco Rubio's opposite number in the UK system. He's a very, very experienced diplomat. I don't think he's made a public comment yet, so we don't know. This is anonymous sources around it. It's reported. But certainly, what... Insiders are saying is that this was a further move beyond what the Iranians offered in 2015, 16 under the agreement that was then signed. I mean, anytime I talk to you, there's always a million hotspots in the world and there's 60 wars in the world at the moment. Right, well, right. And your and your job is to sort of, you know, stay on top of them. How, um... How destabilizing does this moment feel to you? Very significant because Iran has such explosive potential. Secondly, the knock-on effects are so clear because the choke point of the Straits of Hormuz is so significant. But then thirdly and critically, where's the bandwidth for the mushrooming crises around the world? The Sudan's of this world, 30 million people in humanitarian need, the Ukraine crisis. All those are being pushed. The resolution is being pushed further away. And that's a grave danger that we see at the moment. We call it the New World Disorder. Yes, that point about focus, which is necessarily focus requires a choosing of this or that, a prioritization, that if America or the world or humanitarian groups are focused on one thing, it draws from other places. And that's another consequence. Well, we can't just follow the headlines. We've got to follow the needs. All right, David Milvan. Thank you very much. Pleasure to have you. Thank you. Thanks, Chris.

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Stay tuned because in just a few minutes, Jen Saki, we'll be speaking with Congressman Jim Himes, who's the ranking member on the House Intelligence Committee. We'll be right back. Before you go on this St. Paddy's Day as a proud descendant of Irish immigrants, I want to share this amazing moment today with Ireland's Prime Minister made the case for immigration directly to Donald Trump. In our view is you have to have robust and fair rules around migration, but on the other hand, a lot of people, you know, within the European Union, we free mobility of people. And in Ireland, our population is growing, but in a very positive way. Our economy is going well because we're attracting a lot of people from Europe and beyond into work legally and validly in our countries. I think sometimes Europe gets characterized wrongly in terms of it being overrun or whatever like that. It's much more robust now. stronger mechanism in place to facilitate legal migration. And I think it's important that I have understanding. We need more economic growth in Europe. Immigration's good, actually. That Oval Office moment is in line with my podcast this week. I spoke to David Beer. He's the director of Immigration Studies at the Cato Institute. And we talked about how Trump has transformed immigration politics inside the Republican Party and why immigration is actually good for the country, something a lot of Republicans actually used to recognize. Check it out wherever you get your podcasts. That does it for All In. You can catch us every weeknight at 8 o'clock on MS Now. Don't forget to like us on Facebook. That's facebook.com slash on with Chris. Running a business is hard enough. So why make it harder with a dozen different apps that don't talk to each other? Introducing Odu, the only business software you'll ever need. It's an all-in-one fully integrated platform that makes your work easier from CRM, accounting, inventory, e-commerce, and more. And the best part, Odu replaces multiple expensive platforms per a fraction of the cost. That's why over thousands of businesses have made the switch. So why not you? Try Odoo for free at odoo.com. That's O-D-O-O-O-O-com.