Trump gets ‘highlight reel’ of strikes as war briefing: report

Instagram teen accounts default teens into automatic protections for who can contact them and the content they can see. Explore teen accounts and all of our ongoing work to protect teens online at Instagram.com slash teen accounts. Watch Disclosure Day at Home Now with exclusive bonus features. If you found out we weren't alone, if someone showed you proved it to you, would that frighten you? While now the truth belongs to 7 billion people in an original event film directed by Steven Spielberg from a screenplay by David Kep starring Emily Blunt, Josh O'Connor, Colin Firth, Eve Hewson, and Coleman Domingo. Find Disclosure Day on major digital platforms now with no subscription required, also in theaters. Tonight on All-in. We've won this war has been won. They gave us a present, and the president arrived today. Declaring victory against Iran, predicting karate with Elvis Presley. Could I have taken him in a fight? I don't know. You might. Tonight, war in the Middle East through the fog of Trump. President Trump, that is not bluff, and he is prepared to unleash hell. Then what historically low polling for Trump means for this week's No King's protest. Congressman Robert Garcia on Donald Trump and the Epstein files and a historic ruling for social media companies today in California. Mr. Mark Zuckerberg, did Meta purposely design the plan for to harm children? Today's landmark verdict against YouTube and Meta. I think it's not too much to say that this is, you know, not only the end of social media as we know it, this is the end of childhood as we have accepted it. All in starts right now. Good evening from New York. I'm Chris Hayes. There are real questions about the ability of the U.S. intelligence apparatus to provide the commander-in-chief with accurate information. not to mention the intelligence of the Commander-in-Chief and his ability to absorb the information provided. Today, NBC News reports that Donald Trump is getting his daily briefing on the war in the form of a highlight reel of, and I quote here, stuff blowing up. Quote, each day since the start of the war and around U.S. military officials compile a video update for Trump that shows video of the biggest, most successful strikes on Iranian targets over the previous 48 hours, three current U.S. officials and a former U.S. officials said. The daily montage typically runs for about two minutes, sometimes longer, the officials said, one described each daily video as a series of clips of stuff blowing up. National intelligence in the form of Instagram reels, basically, the kind of thing that could keep the attention of like a, you know, child, a phone-addicted teen. To be clear, the sources stress that Trump also receives more traditional briefings, but given what we know about how much reading this man does, it's fair to have questions about how much information he actually retains or understands. In fact, today, the Iranian foreign minister mock Trump on social media, calling him essentially a kind of patsy for his own intelligence agencies.

It is said that Edward Bernay is a pioneer of mass persuasion served on the Committee on Public Information and worked to help Woodrow Wilson rally Americans for war in Europe. When he and Walter Lipman met President in 1917, they reportedly said, we can sell the war to the public. More than a century later, little has changed, except now it seems the war is being sold not once but daily, even to the President himself, through carefully curated videos. To that point, it's completely unclear who's putting these little high-right reels together in the first place. Is it a best-of-reel from Pete Hegseth Department of Defense? Or from National Intelligence Director Tulsi Gabbard. She says Trump is getting the best information. Did you brief the president if he starts a war of choice, that the likely result would be that Iran would strike adjacent Gulf nations and... closed the straight of her moves. Did you brief him on those two facts that I think have been consistently the assumptions of the intelligence community? I have not and won't divulge internal conversations. I will say that those of us within the intelligence community continue to provide the president with all of the best objective intelligence available to inform his decisions. All the best intelligence and the most awesome explosion videos. Who knows? But it just does not seem like there is a functioning, truth-telling process right now in the intelligence apparatus. And there are profound implications there, as of course we all learned in 9-11 and as we learned again in the Iraq War. Do you trust an intelligence apparatus run by Tulsi Gabbard and Donald Trump and hand-picked MAGA loyalists to the top? Because that's what we have. In many accounts, it's been hollowed out. And loyalty has been elevated to the most important concern. And we are seeing day by day the consequences. Remember, on the very first day of this war, the U.S. struck a girls elementary school in Iran multiple times, apparently while meaning to target a nearby military installation. And nearly 200 people were killed, most of them children. And one mother whose child was killed told NBC News this week, quote, Trump should not think that killing our children has made us despair. He should cry for himself because he will end up in hell. This administration's total lack of competence has had effects like this all over the place. Here's one, and this is thanks to some great reporting to New York Times. Do you remember earlier this month, in fact, I remember getting the push notification while we were on set during the Texas primary, when the Pentagon announced, it had conducted, and this was kind of weird, a joint operation with the military of Ecuador. Okay. And they were apparently targeting narco-terrorists there, according to the Pentagon. In fact, as they always do with this sort of thing, they posted a video to social media, which showed a large explosion. And they told us the large explosion was a drug camp. Now, according to the government of Ecuador, the attack was based on intelligence and support from the United States. And at this point, you could probably guess where I'm going with this. As in New York Times reports, quote, the military strike appears to have destroyed...

a cattle and dairy farm, not a drug trafficking compound, according to interviews with the farm's owner, four of its workers, human rights lawyers, and residents and leaders in Sam Martine, where the strike took place. Workers on the farm told the times that Ecuadorian soldiers arrived by helicopter on March 3rd, dows several shelters and sheds with gasoline, and ignited them after interrogating workers and beating four of them with the butts of their guns. Three of the workers said the soldiers later choked and subjected them to electrical shocks before letting them go. Three days later, on March 6th, the Ecuadorian military reappeared in helicopters, residents said. They dropped at least two explosives on the farm's smoldering remains. You have to wonder if that explosion of the dairy farm that got bombed made it into Trump's daily highlight video. That's the apparent product of U.S. intelligence right now. Garbage in, terrible garbage decisions out. Just today, the country of Iraq says the U.S. struck a medical clinic on a military base there, killing seven members of the Iraqi military and wounding more than a dozen more. The U.S. denies targeting a clinic. Did they know what they were targeting? Again, who do you believe here? And right now, is this war just continues to threaten to spiral throughout the region? It's not even clear if Trump knows whether or not our country is actually negotiating to end it. This seems like a crucial thing, but it's really not clear. He keeps saying we are in negotiations, active negotiations. Are we? I don't know. Iran insists negotiations aren't happening and in fact are a non-starter. And in fact, they say, straight up, they will not negotiate with Steve Witkoff and the president's son-in-law, who, by the why, why is he the U.S. negotiator begin with? And that makes a lot of sense when you consider we have attacked them in the middle of negotiations twice, twice, even as the negotiators in the latest round say that a nuclear deal was within reach. So here we are with Iran using its leverage, running essentially a toll operation or a blockade in the Strait of Hormuz, making their own deals for safe passage with China, Russia, Indian, Iraq, Pakistan. And maybe they'll decide to negotiate with the U.S. and maybe they won't. Who knows? Here's the former head of Britain's Foreign Intelligence Service. Who has the upper hand right now? Who is in a stronger position as that process unfolds? Iran. The reality is that the US underestimated the task and I think as of about two weeks ago lost the initiative to Iran. In practice, the Iranian regime has been more resilient than I think anyone would have expected. Donald Trump clearly thought this was going to be a cakewalk, that this would be easy. He thought it would be a quick process to depose a regime like what they did in Venezuela. Now the war is dragging into his fourth week. The human toll grows with each passing day. Thousands of people dead in Iran alone, 13 U.S. service members, hundreds throughout the Gulf. I don't know if the commander-in-chief is even aware of the costs of the mess he has created.

Senator Chris Van Hollen, a Democrat of Maryland. He serves in the Foreign Relations Committee, and he joins me now. Do you know who's running the war, Senator? Chris, the short answer is no. I have no idea what information is going into Donald Trump's head. What we do know from what's coming out of his mouth. is that he's completely delusional. He's detached from reality. He says we're winning. When, as was just reported, it's pretty clear, Iran at least feels it has the upper hand. Donald Trump says, they're negotiating with us and they're going to give me everything I want. They say they're not negotiating with it. Certainly not directly. And by the way, not only are they rejecting the proposals that have come to them indirectly, but they put forward their own... demands. So Donald Trump is now, as you say, weeks into this war, 13 American service members dead, hundreds wounded, thousands of civilians in the region killed, and Americans are paying over $2 billion every day, and oil and gas prices are going up. And we have a president who says we're winning. He's delusional. There were multiple Republicans today expressing their concern over the briefings they've been getting the Hill, including Mike Rogers, high-ranking on the Armed Services Committee. Nancy Mace said she walked out of a briefing today. And what I'm getting is there is a growing expectation on Capitol Hill that they are going to deploy. U.S. forces in an invasion of some part of Iran, whether that's the 82nd airborne that's being mobilized, we know that, the marine expeditionary units, which should be arriving, I think, in the region at the end of the week. Is that a fair? I don't know what you've been told and what you can disclose because of classification, but is it fair to say there's an expectation on Capitol Hill that that's the way this is going? Chris, there is a broad view that we're not getting the information we need from the administration. We never have, and we still aren't. As to exactly what we expect next, I really don't know because you have administration witnesses who are refusing to disclose, and maybe it's because they have no clue, ultimately what Donald Trump will do. It depends on the last person he talked to. We know that... Pete Hegseth has been a warmonger. We know that Donald Trump has been very influenced by Israeli Prime Minister B.Benjamin Netanyahu. There was a Reuters article the other day that said that, you know, on the decision to go into war, he helped tilt the balance, tip the balance in the president's mind. So look, we don't know, but what we do know from what he's saying is that he appears to be clueless about the real world situation on the ground. The footage we're just showing you is, but the president is talking to a House Republican campaign committee retreat tonight. Mike Johnson just gave him an award. They said they made up this award, an inaugural award called the America First Award, which they, surprisingly, they didn't give the vote tally, but Donald Trump won it, and they gave it to him, so he seems very excited with that.

The other aspect of this that I find so unnerving, aside from a quagmire and the possible involvement of U.S. troops, is more regional destabilization. And I thought the Iraq angle today seems particularly important. The Iraq government summoned the U.S. diplomat after this attack on that military base, you know, one of the weird kind of... quiet victories geopolitically in the region is after the U.S. got out of there that the Iraqi government has stabilized to a certain extent. They had a horrible and bloody civil war. That is not. It is still, there's all sorts of fraught politics between Sunni and Shia there. There are still like pretty armed militias. And it seems to me that if you're not careful, you end up creating real chaos in Iraq. Is that a concern of yours? Yes, it is. And I'm glad you zeroed in on that because we are seeing the reports that the Iraqi officials are saying the United States targeted a medical facility, an army medical facility in Iraq. And as you say, it's a very delicate situation there with the mix of Shia and Sunni and, of course, the Kurds. And Iran is working very hard to exploit those fissures. within Iraq. And what Donald Trump has done is given Iran another tool in its toolbox to try to divide that country and destabilize that country. And of course, Chris, in Lebanon, we're seeing the same thing. I mean, we're seeing now a million people displaced, thousands of people dead. You've got the Benjamin Netanyahu government openly saying that they're going to occupy. Lebanon up to the Latani River. And again, this is not, this is not going to end Hezbollah's strength. In fact, it leads more people in Lebanon to be a little more sympathetic sometimes to Hezbollah. So this is backfiring across the region and making Americans less safe. You know, I remember in the run of the Iraq War and even in Afghanistan, there were... Congressional hearings. There were members of the administration, Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense, who came before Congress and asked questions, answer questions. There's been no hearings. There have been every time that Democrats have tried to force a war powers resolution vote, it's been knocked down by Republicans. They can't even get a witness to come and explain what's going on with the war. And now they're talking about a $200 billion supplemental. I assume I know where you are on that vote, but are you in favor of voting to fund the war? Oh, not one more penny for this lawless, illegal.

War of Choice, Chris, that's making us less safe. And you're absolutely right. The Republicans on Capitol Hill refuse to demand that the Trump administration witnesses come up and testify in public. They're clearly worried about what will happen if they're actually cross-examined. The American public will see that there's no there there. They'll see the constantly shifting rationales. They'll see that there's absolutely no endgame. And they'll see that it's costing our country in both lives and treasure and making us actually worse off and less safe. That's why they won't call those witnesses because Donald Trump and this administration don't want to send those witnesses up. And we have a Republican Congress that's afraid to challenge them in any way. It's very striking. Pete Hegseth obviously spent years publicly communicating as a broadcaster as a weekend cable news host and clearly likes relishes, you know, talking into cameras and microphones. It is striking to me that he has not come before the U.S. Congress to talk about how the war is going. Maybe that will happen at some point. Senator Chris Van Hollen, thank you very much. I would like to cross-examine him and Marco Rubio and the whole crew. Yeah, we'll see if you get that chance. Thank you very much, sir. Thank you. Coming up, what will record low polling for Donald Trump mean for the no kings protest plan for this weekend? Azure 11 on that. And more ahead.

Last night, we brought you the moment that Mara Lago officially went blue. Yes, the home district of the Florida Golf House of Donald Trump, site of so many historic and memorable events like the launch of the war on Iran, the weddings of Tiffany Trump and Dan Skavino, not to each other. Who could forget the bathrooms clogged up with boxes of stolen classified documents and all those skeevy parties with Jeffrey Epstein that we happen to have some B-roll of. Trump's home is now represented by Democratic State Representative. But that was not the only seat the Democrats flipped last night. There was also a state Senate special election near Tampa in an area that elected its outgoing Republican state senator by almost 10 points in 2022, and where Republicans hold an advantage of about 22,000 voters. But when all precincts reported, the Democratic candidate led his Republican opponent by half a percentage point today, the Republican candidate conceded. Now, the Tampa Bay Times points out this isn't a result of Republicans staying home, something we've seen in previous special elections. In fact, more Republicans turned out the Democrats of the polls. The difference likely came down to third party voters. More than 13,000 had cast their ballots out of 6 p.m. Tuesday. And again, in a district where registered Republican voters outnumbered Democrats by 22,000. This was a Republican electorate where Democrats gained independent voters and disaffected Republicans and didn't just fire up liberals who would climb over broken glass to vote in a special election, something we've seen time and time again. And I think a lot of this has to do with this, the obvious sort of central factor in our political solar system. Donald Trump's approval rating sits at just 36% in the latest Reuters poll. It's the lowest point of his second term. And as his war with Iran drags on, his approval continues to sink, people are getting ready to take to the streets for the third No Kings rally this Saturday, March 28th. Ezra Levine is the co-founder and co-executive director of Indivisal, one of the key organizers of the No Kings rallies, which expects millions across the country this Saturday, March 8th, and he joins me. Now, Ezra, we're looking back at the statistics for this. So it was last summer, June 14th was the first No King's protest. Estimates of about 5 million people, 2,100 planned events. October 18th in the fall, up to 7 million people, over 3,000 events. How are things looking for Saturday? Chris, things are looking really good. I got to tell you, as of right now, we have more than 3,100 protests planned in the United States and, in fact, all over the world, which is to say, yes, indeed, we are talking to the Guinness Book of World Records. I believe this will be the largest protests in American history for now the third time in the row, starting with No Kings 1, then No Kings 2, No Kings 3 is only getting bigger.

I'm curious how you think this the sort of context of public opinion manifests itself, because I think there was some part of me, a lot of people I talked to in the early part of the first year of Trump 2.0. 25, checked out of the news, sort of self-care, couldn't think about it. Then as they started to check back in, this sort of feeling of frustration and anger that no one was doing anything and that all these institutions and elites and politicians seem to be rolling over and that fired people up. Now you've got this weird situation where... It's not like, you know, there's only some small group of people whaling in the wilderness about Donald Trump or the fact this war is a bad idea. He seems, this seems to be the broadly shared majority view across the country on almost every issue. Look, Chris, I got to be honest, immediately after Donald Trump won election again in 2024, we saw a surge of people, normal everyday people, not professional politicos, not media executives, not law firm presidents, not university presidents, normal everyday people, nurses and IT technicians and teachers starting. to do things on the ground, trying to pull their community in. And I know that many in the elite sectors of society didn't do that. But that's not what we as organizers were seeing on the ground. Instead of what we've been seeing is a steady and then increasing drumbeat from folks organizing. Indivisible has seen triple the number of new indivisible groups form in the last 50 months, quadruple the number of members. And then that's evidenced on the ground by exactly what you were just. listing the statistics of historic levels of protest. I would say we're not big enough yet. What the political scientists tell us, what folks like Erica Jennerwith or Maria Stephan, these experts in authoritarianism tell us, is that you need about three and a half percent of the population, not just showing up on a single day, but actively engaged in opposition to the regime to prevent an authoritarian from taking over. In the U.S. context, that's 11 to 12 million people. We're getting there. We're not there yet, which is why it's so important that we not wrestle on our laurels, that we not just believe that the majority of the public is with us, but that we actively recruit our friends and family and colleagues. Text 59798, no kings to find your nearest protests and then pull your people in because that's how we build towards a movement that is unstoppable. We'll crush this regime in the midterms and will protect the results when they try to sabotage them. How do you think the war changes things now? This is the first time that we're going to be, you know, in an active war that Donald Trump started with these protests taking place. And there haven't really been the kinds of anti-war protests you saw, say, in the run-up even to Iraq in 2003.

Well, there was no run-up to this work, Chris. There was hardly any run-up. It suddenly happened, despite the fact that three-quarters Americans didn't want to strike Iran, despite the fact that Trump promised he specifically would not start a war with Iran. I believe this is going to be the largest anti-war protest in history as well. What we see on the ground, what's driving recruitment right now are two things. One, Trump's secret police goon squad that is... terrorizing communities, in some cases, murdering Americans like Renee Good and Alex Freddie. And two, it's this war. And this war is not just pulling Kamala Harris voters into activism. It's not just unifying the Democrats against the regime. There are Trump voters who believed in him, who thought he was the peace candidate, who now are feeling dissolution and feeling betrayed. And I will say, it is our responsibility to welcome them with open... arms we are not saying well where were you why did you vote that way no this is a movement that needs people who are unified not about everything that could come in the future but about what's happening right now that we have a would-be monarch in this country a country that was founding on rejecting kings and if you agree with us on that you should come to the rally and pull in some of your friends Ezra Levin, who is one of the organizers at Indivisible, that march and protests and demonstrations will be taking place all across the country. MS now will actually have full coverage of those protests all day long here on Saturday. Be sure to tune in. Still ahead. The latest from the Epstein investigation. Just what did Epstein's lawyer and accountant tell Congress under sworn depositions? Next.

Watch Disclosure Day at Home Now with exclusive bonus features. If you found out we weren't alone, if someone showed you, proved it to you? Would that frighten you? Well, now the truth belongs to 7 billion people in an original event film directed by Steven Spielberg from a screenplay by David Kep starring Emily Blunt, Josh O'Connor, Colin Firth, Eve Hewson, and Coleman Domingo. Find Disclosure Day on major digital platforms now with no subscription required, also in theaters. With the Vivgard-Hitrullo, F-Gar-Tygamod Alpha, and Hyalaranidase QVC, pre-filled syringe, self-injection is in your hands. It's your treatment routine. Use at the time and same day each week. Take the pre-filled syringe with you on vacation. Or have it handy for cozy staycations. For more information, visit live vividly.com. That's L-I-V-E-V-Y-V-Y-V-I-D-L-Y dot com. Brought to you by Argenics. Waking up exhausted, foggy, and running on empty? For me, one of the missing pieces was magnesium support. That's why I added magnesium breakthrough by-bye optimizers to my nightly routine. It's a powerful all-in-one magnesium complex with seven forms of magnesium, designed to support relaxation, sleep, stress response, and recovery. If you're ready to feel more rested and have a great summer, go to bioptimizers.com slash hags and use code H-AGS for 15% off any order. Remember back in July of last year before it was forced by Congress to release the Epstein files. The Department of Justice under Donald Trump issued that memo. claiming it had, quote, conducted an exhaustive review investigative holdings related to child sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein, and they basically concluded, nothing to see here, just move on. Well, now, months later, we find out that the so-called exhaustive review apparently did not include talking to two men who were members of Epstein's inner circle for years. Because earlier this month, the House Oversight Committee deposed those two men, Epstein's longtime lawyer, Darren Indyke, and his accountant Richard Kahn. They just released the tapes of those depositions. Have you ever been contacted by any law enforcement agency concerning Jeffrey Epstein or Ghislaine Maxwell?

I'm happy to make sure when I tell you the answer is no, I don't think I want. Have you ever been formally questioned by any government authority in connection with Mr. Epstein? I've never been questioned by any government authority. Both of those men claim they knew nothing about Epstein's crimes. Neither of them have been accused of wrongdoing. Join you now as the ranking member of that committee, Congressman Robert Garcia, Democrat of California. Congressman, these depositions have just been made public. Was there anything crucial that you feel like you learned or avenues that were opened up in those conversations? There were, I think, first, I mean, the first point that was just made, I think is so important. You had here Jeffrey Absin's personal lawyer, personal accountant, and they were never... interviewed by the FBI or the DOJ throughout this entire period of time. We actually heard the exact same from Les Wexner, who of course is one of the billionaire benefactors of Jeffrey Epstein, was never interviewed by the DOJ or the FBI at any time relating to Jeffrey Epstein's crimes. What was the government actually doing here? And I think what's been interesting about the deposition with these two men is it is clear that they continue to, we believe, divert They try to put up smoke screens. They are not telling the full truth. And that's been clear by their continued arguments around not knowing anything about Jeffrey Epstein's crimes. We know for a fact that they were involved in getting women immigration papers. We know for a fact that they were involved in providing tuition and financial documents and getting women into programs that Jeffrey Epstein wanted them to be a part of or into schools or into other countries. Yet they continue to. lie and evade and not tell the truth. What also was really interesting is early on in these depositions. They told us three to four different stories around this accuser Jane Doffor of Donald Trump's. Now, this is all alleged, of course, but there was an alleged abuse moment that may have happened in the past. We know that there was an accuser that accused Donald Trump of sexual abuse. That accuser was interviewed by the FBI multiple times. And the estate... will not confirm or deny if they actually had a settlement in place with this accuser. They first told us there wasn't a settlement, then they told us they had no idea if there was one, and then they for a third time change her story and said they actually can't confirm or deny if there was ever actually a settlement. So it's... issues and really stories around that case and others that just give us a lot of doubt about their testimony. I want to just make sure I'm tracking this because that Jane Doer, of course, is the woman who accused Jeffrey Epstein of sexually abusing her, particularly in South Carolina when she was 13 or 14 years old. She also accuses Donald Trump of the same. Donald Trump says he has committed no wrongdoing. He says he's been exonerated by the investigation. And there's a question about whether

The Epstein estate settled with this woman who accused Jeffrey Epstein in her FBI interviews and Donald Trump for her accusations against Jeffrey Epstein. Is that that the outstanding question they won't confirm? That's right. And what's important about this is when we went to see the documents, I myself looked at documents. We actually saw that the documents around Jane Doffour and President Trump, including the interviews, were missing. They were in a manifest of documents that should have been in the Epstein files. they were not there. So when we called that out, we called out the DOJ, we called out Pam Bondi, the documents sent reappear in the Epsine files, but not all of them. And still to this day, all the documents around those interviews with Jane Doffour, who by the way was interviewed four times by the FBI, not once, not twice, but four different times. The possible settlement that may have happened with this accuser, We have no, right now we have no truth here. We don't know if there was actual settlement that was put in place by the Epstein State. But what's important is that they told us multiple different stories about this settlement. And it was three different outcomes they actually let us on. And so finally at now, they will not admit to us whether there was a settlement or not. That's where the case is currently, but we continue to investigate it. I want to ask you about another area of oversight you've been conducting. We had Senator Richard Blumenthal on last night. The two of you together had a hearing and oversight into the treatment of children by DHS, particularly immigration custom enforcement, particularly what has happened to the children of people. Often American citizens who have been taken by ICE. This is a really powerful bit of testimony from a man named Arnaldo Bazan, who's an American. His father's car was rammed into repeatedly by ICE, who then lied about it, and they say, and he says, beat Arnoldo. I want you to take a listen to us so our viewers can see it and get your reaction to it. Now, your dad is arrested, he's beaten, and you actually try to help him. And after the agents tackled you, one agent pressed his knee onto your back, while another put you in a chokehold. Is that correct? Yes, sir. They were so brutal that you needed medical attention, as you can see here. A nurse at the hospital where you were taken, actually called 911 to report to the police that you had been choked and beaten. That is one of many stories of this kind of abuse. You just mentioned Alex Preddy and Renee Good. As this fight continues over funding ICE, Democrats saying they cannot continue to fund this abuse. My question is, is there any movement towards any accountability by the individuals that have done these things beaten people, lied about beating them, shooting people, lying about shooting them? Do we have anything happening inside the federal government at all to, at the very least, investigate or bring these people to account?

Absolutely not. And look, in this one case, I just also want to add that these agents go on to call him horrific names. They go on to take his cell phone, which had the evidence, of course, that his father had actually not done anything, and they pawn and sell his cell phone for $250. Yet there has been no accountability for these agents. And in fact, there have been other cases documented against U.S. citizens and others where the agents have gotten actual... promotions where Gregory Bovino has been caught emailing these agents saying, oh, continue doing this great job. You're actually getting a promotion. There has been zero accountability. We don't have any evidence that these agents have been either removed from their position or under investigation or having any sort of justice. Yeah. They are murdering and hurting U.S. citizens, including children and minors with no accountability. You can learn more about Hernando Bazan's case at MS. Now where Antonio Hilton, our own, Antonio Hilton did some great reporting, got that video that was later taken. Congressman Robert Garcia, thank you very much. Appreciate it. Still to come, today's landmark verdict that social media companies knew their products were bad for kids. This is a really big moment. That's next.

With the Vivgard-Hitrullo, F-Gar-Tygamod Alpha, and hyaluronidase QVC, pre-filled syringe, self-injection is in your hands. It's your treatment routine. Use at the time and same day each week. Take the pre-filled syringe with you on vacation. Or have it handy for cozy staycations. For more information, visit live vividly.com. That's L-I-V-E-V-Y-V-Y-V-I-D-L-Y dot com. Brought to you by Argenics. Waking up exhausted, foggy, and running on empty? For me, one of the missing pieces was magnesium support. That's why I added magnesium breakthrough by-bye optimizers to my nightly routine. It's a powerful all-in-one magnesium complex with seven forms of magnesium, designed to support relaxation, sleep, stress response, and recovery. If you're ready to feel more rested and have a great summer, go to bioptimizers.com slash hags and use code HHGS for 15% off any order. Shipping, billing, admin, payroll, marketing. You're managing all the things. So why waste time sending important documents the old-fashioned way? Mail and ship when you want, how you want, with Stamps.com. Print postage on-demand 24-7 and schedule pickups from your office or home. Save up to 90% with automated rate shopping. That's why over 1 million small businesses trust Stamps.com. Go to Stamps.com and use code podcast to try Stamps.com risk-free for 60 days.

We live in an age where we can all feel our attention being extracted and destroyed by social media. It's so central to how we experience the world, our politics, our society. I wrote a book about it called The Sirens Call about how attention became the most endangered resource of our times. It's also an age in which the constantly distracted president himself can't sit still long enough to read a briefing on the war he declared in Iran. So his advisors feed him a diet of like curated two minute long highlight reels of the day's events. Content one military official described as clips of stuff blowing up. So we learned today from NBC News reporting. And that reporting came on the same day that a jury handed down a landmark ruling. finding big social media networks responsible for knowingly getting children addicted to their products. That jury in California today concluded that YouTube and Meta, the company that owns Facebook and Instagram, deliberately and negligently designed their products to get young users hooked on the apps and shatter her mental health. A lawyer for that social media user, the plaintiff, presented the jury with internal company documents from meta and YouTube that showed that tech executives knew of and discussed the negative effects of their products on children. The jury awarded that victim $3 million for pain and suffering and another $3 million impunity damages. And that's not counting the undisclosed terms of the plaintiff's pretrial settlement with TikTok and snap. Keep in mind, this is all just for one victim in one case. And it comes after Meadow was ordered on Tuesday to pay $375 million in a separate New Mexico case. The company was found in violation of state law because, again, it failed to protect kids this time from child predators on their apps. Experts say today's jury verdict could be a bellwether predicting the outcome of thousands of similar cases in multiple states. The courts could start to clamp down on Big Tech and its addictive products the same way they did a few decades ago with Big Tobacco. Jacob Ward's a veteran technology journalist and hosts the Rip Current podcast. Juliana Arnold is a founding member of the group Parents Rise. Her 17-year-old daughter Coco died in 2022 after meeting a man on Instagram who gave her fentanyl. They both joined me now. Jacob, I want to just start with you because you've been an observer of this industry, a reporter on it for decades. There is obviously this kind of growing backlash. I think you feel it socially, right? In the peer discussions, people's experience, how significant is what happened today inside that jury room for these companies at the legal and financial level? I mean, it just couldn't be larger here, Chris, and I really appreciate you having me, and Julianna, it's a real pleasure to be with you, an honor to be with you. So, you know, we have in our world, I think, as parents stood around at soccer games, right, stood around at birthday parties and said, geez, what are we going to do about our kids on these phones and sort of shrugged our shoulders? Everybody can...

feel what you were describing, this feeling that our attention is slipping away from our kids and that something is being reprogrammed here, but we couldn't really put a name on it. Now, a jury of 12 people, and, you know, I'm saying this as someone who also wrote a book on attention and, you know, psychology. I know you think about this very deeply as well, Chris. Like, it turns out there is a name for this stuff. There is science behind it. A lot of those scientists, it turns out, worked inside these companies. And now... We have not just a name, we have a liability built around it, a legal theory, a cost. of actually treating kids' attention as the product. And the fact that we've transitioned now from a country that very often blames the victim, blames the addict, blames someone who is obese for their problems, now is looking at the design circumstances, right? The design of the product that mind behavior and says no more. That is the end of a social media era. And I would argue the end of an era of childhood as we've come to accept it, Chris. Bobby Allen, has a great NPR tech correspondent, interviewed one of the jurors, gave her name as Victoria, said, we wanted them to feel it. We wanted them to know this was unacceptable. And Juliana is someone who suffered this just incomprehensible loss, but has devoted yourself to accountability for understanding what happened into accountability. And who was at the trial, what did it feel like to get this news today? Well, you know, we've been on this journey and we didn't know what to expect with this trial. They told us we could never get to court in the first place and here we are. And it was a mix. It was very bittersweet because we're there because the worst thing that ever happened to us was losing our child and we're there for that reason. And then to hear the testimonies and see the evidence that shows that they knowingly designed these products and their platforms to actually addict our kids, get them hooked, also amplify their pain and what they're going through as teenagers, and, you know, put profit over their protections. And it was just really hard to hear. So it was a mix of like... just anger and pain and then juxtapose with, you know, a real hope. There was overwhelming hope that there is a path forward that we can help save our next generation of kids. And at least we know now and parents can make decisions and now we have to go to go to. the hill and fight for legislation to protect our children, which we have been doing for the past three years. But I feel like now we are armed with the information, the evidence that we didn't have before. Our stories were not enough, obviously. So we're going to make sure that with this evidence, we get some legislation passed.

Juliana just referenced this, Jacob, just that one of the sort of theories here and some of the evidence presented is that part of the means by which you produce this kind of compulsive usage, right, is to promote negative feelings about yourself, that those aren't incidental and in fact are. engineered into the platform. I mean, the plaintiff who lives in Chico, California, said she'd begun using social media at age six. She said the sites caused personal injury, including body dysmorphia, thoughts of self-harm. But my understanding is some of the testimony I've seen and some of the evidence introduced, Jacob, is that, again, they understood this. They were clear-eyed about it, and they sort of understood that this kind of provoking negative feelings was part of the kind of ensnarement and trap of maximizing user minutes. I mean, this is absolutely right. What we saw in this trial and why it's such a revelation is that you get discovery. You get the kinds of documentation from inside this company that a reporter only dreams of receiving. And so the jury got to see... how this company does the research internally that points out big dangers, right? How it talks about kids when it thinks no one is listening. And that's why you get to this place of understanding just how much of a commodity these children are for this company and how the balance between the money you can make and the danger you might be posing to them is one that is actively discussed inside the company. The other thing I'll point out here, Chris, is, you know, this is not a textbook sort of perfect plaintiff, right? This kid, you know, described having some very serious challenges at home, once described her mother as abusive. You know, this is a kid that you would imagine, and Meadow went to great lengths as did YouTube to point out, you know, this is, you know, this is in our fault that she's this way. But what the jury seems to have done here is flipped that on its head and said, well, her mental health problems were exacerbated by this. And so that suddenly introduces a kind of liability across these many cases that we've never really seen before. Julianna, do you feel as someone who has had to spend a lot of time thinking about this and been following this case and organizing that there is something changing? in just sort of social awareness, in the culture, in the kind of way people are viewing their relationship to the platforms, the power the platforms have, that feels like it's building. Does it feel that way to you? Oh, very much so. I mean, when we started this out, no one was really like talking about this issue. We were not aware when these platforms were, you know, out there and made available to our children. We didn't know. We didn't know how dangerous they were. No one warned us. There was no warning. And it was impossible to know that who would have thought that that's what was behind all of this, that they were trying to get these kids on their platform, keep in there for long, so they could get more advertisers and make more money. I mean, it's absurd. And so very much so.

have been working out here, getting, that's what our organization does, parents rise, is to speak to parents, speak to survivor parents, inform them on the business model, and then get them involved. So that's exactly why we're here, and it has definitely been changing. Yeah, it's been remarkable to watch how quickly are things changing. Today, a landmark day, I think, in that trajectory, Jacob Ward, Juliana Arnold. Thank you both. Really appreciate it. Thank you. Congressman Jamie Raskin is going to be speaking with Jen Saki in just a few minutes, so stay tuned for that. That does it for All In. You can catch us every weeknight at 8 o'clock on MS now. Don't forget to like us on Facebook. That's Facebook.com slash all on with Chris. Still waiting in line? Again? That's time you'll never get back. Save time and money with Stamps.com. Over four million businesses have skipped the line with Stamps.com. Join them to save up to 90% off carrier rates from your computer or phone right now. Print postage for certified mail, registered mail, and packages in seconds. Then schedule a pickup right from your home or office. For a limited time, go to Stamps.com and use code podcast for a free welcome gift. Taxes and fees apply.