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So that was pretty surprising. I actually thought he was going to keep the coalition of this primary much, much close than he actually did. That was my biggest takeaway, but she was just the mere magnitude and size of how many people showed up. It was just massive to vote both for and against him. And then lastly, I guess how much courtesy was in the end couldn't keep even a fragment of what Republicans are in the city together. So how much concern should we have going forward based on these results? And let me give you my thesis and you tell me if I'm a moron in your mind or not. Looking at the rough margins here, and I know one is the general election, the presidency, which drives out higher turnout, but... 600,000 fewer Trump voters voted in New Jersey this year compared to last year, and about the same number fewer in Virginia, 600,000 less. In fact, Trump, 2024, got more votes than Abigail Spanberger did yesterday and more votes substantially than Cheryl did, both of which got them elected governors. Again, I know 25 versus 24. But when I look at this, Ryan, my concern is... Will Trump's base that elected him in 2024, will those people show up in 26 and then you can project it beyond when Trump's not on the ballot in 28? How durable is this coalition? Well, I mean, any coalition, it does matter a lot by who runs it, right? And you can look at the Obama coalition and see how long they last without Obama. I think the big thing is that if you look at the way that this turnout happened, right? Jack Ciattarelli was a good candidate run a solid campaign, and he built a model of how to win based upon a 2021-style election result. He got 122,000 more votes and he got four years prior. That would have won an election. He got more votes than than Murphy did. And he got more votes, I think, the most Republicans, I think, ever did. He won more votes than even Chris Christie did when he got 60%. He built a platform and a campaign that would win you a normal style, you know, off-off your election. The thing is we didn't have that normal style off-off your election. 400,000 more people showed up to say they're in both from Mikie Sherrill. Mikie Sherrill got close to 80% of the Kamala Harris Road in Jersey, or 81% of Kamala Harris in Jersey, and Jack Ciattarelli got 70% of the Trump coalition. That's just not enough. Part of that is to voter enthusiasm. Part of it is the fact that the economy, it's not a wonderful shape for young people, right? Young people, Hispanic people, people who wanted to elect Trump. having wave a magic wand, have prices go back to the way they were in 2019, have the economy back to weigh it in 2019, are deeply frustrated. Now, you know, are they, are they, should they be frustrated? Should they be surprised they can't go back in 10 months? No, they shouldn't, but that's not American. America wants me everything instantaneously. In Virginia, Winston Cesar ran a bad campaign. That's why she was down by 15 points and worse than every other Republican on the ballot. And that definitely dragged Republicans down furthermore.

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You also have the government shutdown, which deeply affects Virginia. And so you have all those things mixtureed. No one should lose their, light their hair on fire over this. You know, it's terrible, it's awful. But if you look at the overall election from Georgia to racism in Connecticut to races in Kansas. Republicans are being trounced up and down the ballot. Democrats are very enthusiastic. Democrats really want to show that Trump is that Trump needs to be stopped. And Republicans are complacent. This is what happens when you hold the White House, is that the immediate aftermath, the party in power gets complacent. It's how we got Glenn Youngkin in 2021. You can look at how we got Bob McDonald's in 2009. This is just a very frequent thing that happens. And no one should be like this shows. you know, the whole MAGA agenda is over. That does not show this whatsoever. Ryan Gurdowski with us. It's a numbers game. This is podcast on the Clay and Buck Network, which you should all check out on the Clay and Buck Podcast Network, which I just said. Ryan. If you're looking at this, and I agree with you, I don't think that there's a roadmap to all things political that you can draw from what just happened here. But putting that aside for a second, based on the data, the demographics and what we are seeing, not just in these races, but just more broadly, what does, for the midterm specifically, right, this is not about a Trump reelection campaign per se, what does a winning Republican strategy? look like going into this midterm next year so that they can like what are the issues what's the messaging what what do you take away from that well i mean prices are a big part of it and definitely the economy and i was on your show yesterday so the electric prices are a big deal um what i think that i think the missed opportunity for the trump white house what and the trump political shop was they really should have been working to have their own campaign to really see they could drive out low propensity voters in these off-off year cycles and claim those wins. They didn't even focus on New Jersey and Virginia. They could have done the races in Pennsylvania or races somewhere else in the country, but they chose not to. What I think that, I think going forward into this, into this next year is some kind of levity on youth unemployment, which is very high, especially among recent college graduates. It's very, very high. You know, a lot of colleges who cannot find jobs. That's a big deal. to work somewhere out on trying to reduce the ramifications of inflation that happened over the last five years. I know that's very hard to do. I know that food prices are remarkably high and are staying that way. I guess do whatever you can in that, in that, in that, in that, uh, in the 18 months or a year to figure out how you can reduce those prices so that working class people feel a little less of a pinch. And you have, Trump has to get it back on the road again. It has to sit there and start campaigning again to get his base to show up in big numbers because Democrats, as I said yesterday, are showing up like it's presidential elections. Ryan.

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Is there a line that Democrats just won't cross? Because when I see Jay Jones win by six and a half points, widely covered, an amount of media that's covered the Jay Jones. Now, maybe he doesn't get criticized the same way that a Republican would. But for him to win by six and a half points was really the only result I saw last night where I thought to myself, My goodness, this is not a sign of sanity. Yeah, I mean, look, they voted, they, they, hating Trump means more to them than any level of decency. And that is a guiding light for them. I mean, you saw particularly women, college educated women, hating Trump is everything to them, right? And I know it's very uncomfortable for some people to realize how many Cynthia Nixon's of the world there are living in this country, but there are a lot. And they're, unlike, you know, a good political friend of mine told me this. Unlike conservatives who have church, QBC, and the Republican Party, Democrats only have, the liberals only have the Democratic Party to fuel all their frustrations and all their anger in. And I think that, and all their money in, too. And I think that that is where we're spending a lot of, oh, they're spending all the time and energy. I don't think that Jay Jones could, Jay Jones could have kicked the dog while saying some expletive about people saying that I hope, you know. All people do this or that. And he still would have won because, in part, because Winston's Sears and numbers were so highly negative. And I said this on the podcast on Numbers thing, if she wins by double digits, there's no way, which is loses by double digits. There's no way to carry, to stop Jay Jones from winning the election. Ryan, how big a deal is Proposition 50's passage out in California? We'd mention this. We hadn't really, because it's a proposition, right, and it's about redistricting, but it really does matter. How much does it matter for the midterms? Yeah, a lot. I mean, you're looking at probably four to five seat game for Democrats over there that really wipes out what Republicans are doing in Texas. And Democrats are going to step up in Virginia as well and probably draw out two or three Republicans out of Virginia. And in the end, from the redistricting thing, I mean, you may be in a position where even without New York or New Jersey changing the map, you may be in a position where Democrats and Republicans are basically running even as they were beforehand. Okay, so midterms are one year from today. Last year, one year anniversary of Trump's big win. We asked, you know, how much disposition should there be on expectations going forward? If you were asked right now, hey, President Trump, what, President Trump said, what should we focus on Ryan based on the numbers that you have seen to ensure that Republicans stay in control of the House and the Senate? That would be what?

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I would immediately, I mean, especially we're looking at the seventh seats right now and in critical spring seats, I would look at any district where Trump received under one by less than five points, right? Because even in Virginia, even in the state house, Republicans stopped the bleeding at about three points, right? That's all they got. The districts that voted for Trump by three points and less, or maybe four points and less, they flip Democrat. But all the rest of them stayed Republican, right? So it wasn't this. bleeding where like Trump plus 10 districts lost. So that's important thing to remember and a caveat to remember. One, I would sit there and start. really trying to mobilize your whole base again by trying to make sure that they're engaged and I know what the election is. And that takes a year of political work. And it takes, you know, hundreds of millions of not a billion dollars. Secondly, I would sit there and really start trying to focus on easy, deliverable, positive PR wins that are, you know, that are there that they could easily do. And what I would try, I mean, this is not anything that they can't do. Try to get ballot measurements on the ballot in these critical states ahead of the 2026 midterms, where you could do English as the official language ballot in term to drive up Republican conservative independent turnout. Because that was a big part of New Jersey. When I was looking at the results yesterday in Jersey, I was on the phone with you guys, was that the independent turnout was way down in place like Morris County. And I was like, these are conservatives that are not registered Republican. This is not a good sign. So give another initiative, another reason to show up, try to get ballot measurements on these critical swing states and all these states with that critical swing seats ahead of the 2026 midterms. Ryan Gerdowski, everybody. Appreciate you, my friend. And hopefully the next time we have you all to talk election results, there'll be a little more to celebrate. A little more for the GOP to get excited about. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Hate crimes are on the rise, particularly anti-Semitic ones. We see them here in the country around the world too. When Jewish communities are threatened, as they have been, we must take a stand. The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, that's the IFCJ, is on the front lines, providing real help where it's needed most. The coalition of Christian-minded individuals have come together to make a difference in the nation. They're giving food and shelter to Jewish families that feel under threat. They're helping survivors of hate rebuild their lives, and they don't just respond to crisis. They work every day to prevent it. Your gift of $45 will help support their lifesaving work by helping to provide food, shelter, and much more. Supporting the IFCJ is a spiritual stand, too. So please call 888-48-48-i-F-J. That's 888. 488-435. You can also go online to IFC.org. Every dollar helps. Don't wait, be the difference. Visit IFC.org or call 888-488-488-IFC now.

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That's going to get messy. What do you even do? It's not dissimilar in my mind, Buck, to how you end birthright citizenship. Sometimes the law has just been applied for so long and so significantly. You would have to give refunds. It would turn into a real mess. So a part of me wonders if they could say, hey, we don't think this is constitutional, but it's also... also incredibly difficult for the court to order a remediation in some way in this perspective. So they could try to instruct Congress to see if Congress would vote to give the president the authority, right? Because this is really a separation of powers argument. It's does the president have the power under emergency declarations to put in place tariffs? This is a big picture analysis. Or should, with the power of the purse, Congress have to make a decision of this magnitude? And so you have all three powers of separation of power elements here. The court trying to tell Congress what they should have done and what the president can't do and delineate those differences. It is somewhat complicated to go back. We were talking about this off air and say, oh, by the way, that $400 billion. that the president has already collected in tariffs, roughly, maybe it's $300 billion now, certainly projected towards $400. It has to somehow be refunded. That's, first of all, going to increase the deficit, obviously, but also complicated to figure out how to reassess and reallocate those dollars. So this is actually an incredibly significant, but also incredibly complicated Supreme Court case that was taking place this morning. How do you think it shakes out, Mr. Lawyer Hat Clay? A part of me thinks that they will say that the president doesn't have the authority to do it and try to put a end of year timeline. This is just totally making it up, right? Because I think going back and taking away the dollars. that have already come into the government and making the government give refunds is complicated. The easy out, I would think, would be trying to figure out if there's a congressional bill that could be passed to rubber stamp what Trump's already done. One of the smarter investment moves I've made over the years is the purchase of gold, not just because I saw it as a way of balancing the value of a declining dollar, but because I thought it would increase in value. And this year alone, the price of gold. is up by more than 50%. With lagging inflation, still an issue, government debt insurmountable. It's been owning gold just makes sense. The long-term thesis is strong. Central banks the world over have been buying gold all year long. That's one of the reasons gold's value has gone up. Experts following the price of gold tea continue to appreciate well into the future for all these reasons and more. It's not too late for you to enjoy a great return yourself. I recently bought more gold from Birch Gold Group. Birch Gold Group can also help you convert in existing IRA or 401k into a tax-sheltered IRA in gold. You don't pay a dime out of pocket. Just text my name, Buck, to 98-98-98-98-9-8 and claim your free info kit from Birch Gold. No obligation. Text my name Buck to 98-98-98 for Birch Gold Group today.

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Welcome back into Clay Ann Buck. Oh, my, so much coming in here on the stockbacks and on the, well, just everything from the results from this election last 24 hours. And we have, this is going to be very interesting. Randy, do we still have Randy in Jupiter, Florida? He wants to wait on the constitutionality of the tariffs, actually, which I find interesting. Randy in the lovely Jupiter, Florida, which, by the way, I hear Great Homes for Sale. New Yorkers? Yes, I'm sure that's true. What's up, Randy? I live on the intercoastal, so please go inland in Jupiter. But yes, it's paradise every day. What you got for us? Wanted to get some help here on the tariff thing. The other night, Club 47 USA hosted Eric Trump speaking, and we were trying to figure this out. I thought that the Constitution... gave the, well, I don't know, in the Constitution, wasn't terrorists part of our original revenue source for the federal government. Long before the income tax amendment ever came about, I thought tariffs was a legitimate revenue source. And we're needing some help to understand. Okay, so that's a great question. And I'm sure that tariffs were incredibly, um, impactful. I mean, look, the Boston Tea Party, in many ways, was funded by tariffs, right? If I'm remembering correctly, the cost that they were demanding that the colonies pay in order to import tea and other substances. Well, the stamp, the stamp act. We all remember this from AP American history. The intolerable acts. My understanding and. I will be 100% transparent. I do not do tariff law and have never done tariff law as a part of my legal practice. I do know a little bit about maritime law, by the way, which is maybe somewhat closely interlocked at times. My understanding is that Trump has cited specifically a 1970s era law. which was passed, that gives the president the authority to mandate tariffs in times of emergency. My understanding of this dispute is Trump has cited, among other things, I think two primary things. And guys... I don't have the Wall Street Journal with me this morning, but I was reading in their editorial breaking this down, if I remember correctly. One of them is the drug crisis, fentanyl, and the fact that it's been allowed to be brought into this country, and he is saying that is a crisis based on the number of people that are being killed. And then I think there is an illegal immigration aspect associated with this as well, that he has used as the, and by the way, Congress gave the authority. to the president to enact that those actions. The question so far as I understand it to be, and if there is a constitutional scholar out there, 800282-282 who can pronounce and discuss this to a better degree, the question that is at stake that the Constitution that they debated this morning was, has Trump exceeded the authority of that 1970s era statute in taking the power to mandate?

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these emergency tariffs by basically taking away the power that otherwise would have resided with Congress. So the argument against the tariffs is that Congress has the power to levy the tariffs now. Now, maybe you're talking about back in the day in the Articles of Confederation Day, in the colony days, and maybe even in the early days of the country, but the authority to enact tariffs, I believe is with Congress. And one reason they wanted that was obviously separation of powers in general, but I think rooted historically. in the fact that tariffs had been such a significant issue for the colonies back in the day. They didn't want one unitary executive necessarily with the ability. And all of you who took government back in the day, remember the power of the purse historically and constitutionally has resided with the Congress. I think Professor Clay's history class would be a well-attended seminar. I really do. I don't want to swear that every single element of that is 100% correct, but I think I got most of it correct. It's a smart question, but Randy is asking a deep historical question. Again, this is rooted in the authority of a 1970 statute that the Trump administration has cited as the authority for the president to unilaterally impose tariffs across. a broad swath of the global trade and commerce. Indeed. We have more coming in here on this one. A lot of folks with a lot of thoughts. Where were we here a second ago? VIP email. From Lewis, election summary in one word, hate, a powerful emotion, and it has been manipulated against core Americans. This just goes to show the Democrat Party has become the party of hate. That was the platform in each race, and unfortunately the Democrat Party is taught to hate from an early age or socially indoctored and embrace hate. Not one Democrat candidate had any solution for the people, just a platform to tear down and stop Trump. We need to take note and fully understand what is coming. History is repeating itself. Lewis, I think that there are, there's certainly a lot of anger and rage and hate on the left. I think that envy is one of the most, unfortunately, one of the most powerful political mobilization tools that exist, especially for people who are of the leftist, redistributive, collectivist, Marxist mindset. that you can always find people, because the truth is that the material conditions of the New Yorkers even, who are all pro-Zohran Mamdani, first of all, what Clay Red was so hilarious, so true, there are a lot of heiresses in Chappaqua who are like, I love Zohran Mamdani. Yes. Zohran Mamdani is the best. You know, they're all all about it. And they love pretending to be these radicals that care so much about the poor. I mean, they're going to live in the highest income most,

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non-diverse neighborhood they possibly can personally, but they want everybody else to, you know, have like community housing and no laws and no cops. Let me step back in, Professor Clay here a minute, Buck. Trade deficits was what one of, and fentanyl were the two emergencies that Trump cited 1979 law that was passed. Amy Coney Barrett talked about the challenges of returning these tariffs. She said, how would the government refund billions of dollars in tariffs? And the lawyer who is suing, said representing small businesses, said the court could make its ruling perspective only, meaning no refunds would be necessary. It would only start. That's kind of what I said. It would start at a certain date. And I do think that that is a huge part of this as well. But again, the question is what is an emergency, right? There are many different levels here. And this is kind of a fun legal question. But what is an emergency and how long would an emergency last within the context of this law that the Trump administration has cited as the legal authority? John in San Diego, this seems like it could be a super nerd call, but I'm kind of impressed by it. John, you say you remember, well, tell us your take here. Okay, it's real simple. The original Constitution only provides for impost and ex post for taxes. And an impost is a tax on imports, which is a tariff. An expost is an excise tax on domestic goods. So thank you for the call. Sorry to continue. Initially, the government was designed to be small, and we did not get the authority for the income tax. It started, if I'm remembering correct, because I bet, John, you're going to be a nerd here and know this. If I remember correctly, during the Civil War for Abraham Lincoln to pay for the Civil War, am I correct in that? And then it was canceled. Yes. Permanent one started in 1913 with the 16th Amendment. Yes. Okay. Thank you for the call. A lot of people don't know that buck. There was no income tax in the United States until the Civil War. Abraham Lincoln has to pay for the Civil War. Once the war's over, they do away with it. And then in the early 1900s, they said, hey, we're going to go back to this and all of you are going to pay us 30 plus percent of everything you make. This reminds me very much of the discussion here in Florida about eliminating property tax for homesteaded properties. And I keep seeing these people say, but where will the money come from? There's plenty of money. And the property taxes that would, you're talking about something like 6% of the, of the actual budget of the state of Florida. But everyone gets used to a tax and then thinks that that tax is always going to be there. It's just a question what the number is. But this country operator just fine without an income tax for a long time. And you start to look at what's going on and where the expenditures are going. And increasingly, my friends, we are paying for a massive welfare state.

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massive welfare state in this country. We don't necessarily call off that, but that is what is going on. Well, not only that, the challenge is whenever you try to restrain the welfare state, they're immediately, the talking point is you're trying to cut, trying to cut benefits. You can never, and this is the truth, psychologically, you can never give somebody something and then try to take it back without them willing to basically be going, go to war on you. I mean, this is, look, this is the story of Social Security. The reality is Social Security relies on there always being way more young people than there are old people because it's basically one big pyramid scheme. And guess what's going to happen? We're soon going to start having a lot more old people than we are young people. So where does the money for Social Security come from? And when you tell people that, they say, well, no, no, no, no. This is my money. I've been giving you Social Security money for everyone. Okay. But at some point in time, if the demographics reverse, then you can't take 70%, at least in theory, you can't take 70% of what somebody earns to pay it back out later. And by the way, the fact that the government just takes huge amounts of money from us, Buck, if I die tomorrow and God forbid my wife dies tomorrow, and once my kids are 18, I get no Social Security benefits. They cease to exist. So really, you're just rolling the dice on how long are you going to live as to whether you ever get any of the money that the government takes from you on Social Security. And at least you have a possibility of getting that money back. All the other money they take and you're never getting it back. It's an awful. Again, to your point, we just get used to the idea of getting screwed by the government to such an extent that nobody ever really takes a step back and says, do we have to screw everybody like this by the government? To your point, property taxes is ridiculous. You buy a home, you work your whole life, and you have to give the government a huge payment to be able to stay in the home that you owe, that you own. I mean, it really is unbelievable. You're renting your home from the government, and the government can take, the government is your landlord? If you don't pay your home from you, they will take your home. You can never actually just own a home that you can live in. You have to always do this thing of continuing to be extracted from. You cannot just exist. And older people who retire, it becomes brutal on them. Because it's one thing to pay property taxes when you and I are working age. I mean, I don't like it. But at least I'm working. But if I'm 70 and I've lived in the same house for 30 years, those numbers, guess what? They ain't going down. They're going to keep going up. And it becomes more and more for many of you out there listening to us right now that are fortunate to own homes. You're nodding along. You're saying, this is crazy. But yes, we've just accepted that this should happen. And again, the fact that we didn't even have an income tax.

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That was in existence until the early 1900s. It stuns a lot of people because they just presume that we've always been doing this. Indeed. Indeed, Professor Clay. Yes. Anyway, I can nerd out on this stuff. And I just like asking, why are we doing this? Maybe I'm a little bit weird. Sometimes I take a step back and I'm like, yes, this exists, but why? And kids are really great at this. Any of you out there, Buck, you're going to get into this soon. Your six-month-old is just going to ask. The amount of questions that kids can ask, they are just question factories because they're experiencing everything anew and they actually see the world through fresh eyes and they ask lots of questions. And a lot of times you'll sit back and you'll say, you know what? That's a really good question. I never thought about it because you're old and you got used to it. It's been Go, Go, Go in New York. I've been nonstop running everywhere. And if you're running nonstop everywhere, you might. be in favor of some chalk it's a texas-based family business natural ingredients that helps you put more energy in your life c h oq is the website chalk dot com male vitality stacks the most popular product they have what is that you might be asking Well, it's a way to increase the unfortunately horribly diminished levels of testosterone in many different men. It's your body's natural source of energy. That is testosterone. When your levels are low, every guy experiences this as you age. Your testosterone levels decline. You can get just a 20% increase, a significant 20% increase just by having this all natural treatment. 20% in three months time. My name Clay is the promo code. Go online to chalk.com. com. That's C-H-O-Q.com. My name Clay, massive discount on any subscription for life. You can cancel at any time with no penalties, no worries. That's chalk.com. My name, C-L-A-Y. Keep up with the biggest political comeback in world history on the Team 47 podcast. Clay and Buck highlight Trump replays from the week. Sundays at noon Eastern. Find it on the I-Heart Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts. If you're trying to grow spiritually while juggling a busy life, Intouch.org, is a really helpful place to pause and catch your breath. Sometimes you just need a moment to refocus, and that's exactly what you'll find there. You can dive into practical, down-to-earth teaching from Dr. Charles Stanley. Read a short devotional that fits into your day or explore free study guides that speak to real-life situations you might be dealing with. Whether you're looking for direction, comfort, or simply a little encouragement to keep going, there's always something meaningful waiting for you. It's easy to use. It's available anytime, and it meets you right where you are in your walk with God. When you're ready for a bit of clarity or a spiritual reset, take a moment to see how InTouch.org can support your day. It might be exactly what you need. Our podcast version of the Clay Travis N. Buck Sexton Show is proud to be supported by Grand Canyon University, an affordable, private, non-profit Christian university based in beautiful Phoenix, Arizona. At GCU, programs are built to move at the speed of relevance with practical skills, career readiness, and opportunity for every learner. Grounded in Christian truth, GCU works to empower the next generation to lead with integrity, serve with purpose, and help transform their communities, building a future that matters. Find your purpose at GCU, private, Christian, affordable, nonprofit, visit gCU.edu to learn more.

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You don't want to hear about New Yorkers leaving. Why not? Oh, they're a joke. If a pandemic didn't get these guys to leave, they'll never leave. They'll never leave. They're going to stay there. They're going to root for the Jets, be miserable for the rest of their lives. I bet you a dozen wings. They never leave. Can I just say, I love the Buffalo guy, not just throwing New York City, but Jets fans under the bus all at once, Clay. It's a nice move for a Bill's fan, I've got to say. Oh, man, you want to get people fighting. That is a very good line from the bills. By the way, Josh Allen, big win over the Kansas City Chiefs over the weekend. 30 million people watched it. 51 million Major League Baseball just said, Buck. Most watch Major League Baseball game in Game 7 in U.S., Canada, and Japan in over 30 years. This is going to get people fired up. Allison in L.A., K-E-I-B-D, Allison had this to say. Hey, this is Allison from L.A. I'm going to second that lady's notion about apologizing for women. I'm conservative, always voted Republican 24-7 rush listener. But I have to say, they never should have given women the right to vote. It's just, most of them are just too emotional. Oh, Buck, I figured we could end the show with everybody losing their minds. That was, what was their name in L.A.? Imagine what percentage of L.A. residents agree with Allison. I like Allison showing up for the end of the show and just throwing a Molotov cocktail right in the middle of things just to see what happens. If you think you live behind enemy lines, Allison lives in L.A. and she just sent us a message saying women shouldn't have the right to vote. By the way, she was reacting to Bonnie. I bet a grandma from Charleston, South Carolina, who called in an hour one and wanted to apologize to the nation for women. leading us all astray. Let me hit you with this buck as I flagged this. 10 seconds. Born in New York City, 50% Andrew Cuomo, 38% Zohran Mamdani. Less than five years here. 85% Zohran Mamdani. That's your election buck. The Clay Travis and Bucks Exiton Show podcast is proud to be supported by Grand Canyon University, an affordable, private, nonprofit Christian university based in beautiful Phoenix, Arizona. They say higher education is outdated, irrelevant. GCU doesn't settle for the status quo. They shatter it. At GCU, academically rigorous, industry-driven programs are built to move at the speed of relevance. With practical skills, career readiness, and opportunity for every learner, GCU believes education shouldn't be a privilege, but an affordable path forward for all. Grounded in Christian truth, GCU works to empower the next generation to lead with integrity, serve with purpose, and help transform their communities, building a future that matters. GCU is purpose-driven education. Take action. Find your purpose at GCU. Private.

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