Hour 3 - Bye, Bye Dept. of Ed?

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Well, again, I've got a great deal of sympathy for Casper Tell, Dan Bongino, Dan Pam Bondi, going to these agencies, trying to root out the deep state actors that many are still burrowed in, unable to really hire the kind of staff they need because of the lawfare against good people like Judge Troops in Wisconsin and others. They're kind of reluctant to join the Trump administration during their career will be destroyed. So I want to start there. I've got a great deal of sympathy. These guys come into office, they've got enormous messes they're trying to clean up, actually turn these agencies into what they're meant to be, crime fighting units for the standpoint of the FBI. But at the same time, I'll say, I've been frustrating. We. tried to undertake a bipartisan investigation. And then we did some work, but by and large, what we found out about, Butler was pretty well gleaned by my investigatory staff in the first week, primarily talking to local law officials. I issued what I consider a friendly subpoena to the FBI to help prompt more documents, more information coming forward. Our liaison of the FBI actually thanked us for the subpoena. But the fact of the matter is we really have not gotten much. So we've had to go out and contact phone carriers and social media companies. We're starting to get information. We're piecing things together. There are things that are interesting that we need to kind of complete the investigation before we start publishing. But no, there's an awful lot. unknown about Thomas Crooks that, you know, from my standpoint, we should have known quite some time ago. Just so I'm clear on this, Senator, there's an awful lot that the public should know about that you think the FBI has and has not made public, or there's more that the FBI maybe didn't find? It's probably both. Both, okay, yeah. Yeah, you know, again, we... Yeah, I mean, I'm frustrated. But there's no doubt about it. But, again, I don't want to be throwing fast-teller Dan Von Gilles under the bus. Yeah, we just see a note, Senator, we don't do that. You know, we know Cash and Dan here. They're friends of ours. I know from before they took these jobs. They took these jobs because they want to help and they want to reform and they, you know, and we get a lot of heat for standing up for them here because some people have been. Very frustrated with them. Even a lot of Trump voters have been frustrated with the transparency issue. But I try to remind everybody, these are enormous, unwieldy, bureaucratic institutions that were really left rot from the inside under previous administrations. There's a lot of work to be done. There really is. So. We're pursuing this. I'm pretty well undertaking the investigation now from the Senate standpoint just through my firm and subsequent investigation, I kind of walked away from the bipartisan because it just slowed us way down. But again, all I can say is there's more information that will eventually come out and some that we have not yet discovered. So we're still doing investigation.

Now, on the transparency issue, obviously you were a yes vote for releasing the Epstein files because the Senate was unanimous in this, right? One member of the House, everyone else voted for it. One member of the House is, look, his concern was that he thinks that there are people that will be tainted who didn't do anything wrong, but their name is just in some. Okay, so that was his, but everybody else voted to release this thing. Can you just tell us what your sense is of where the president has been on this one? I know you talk to President Trump. He is now in favor of it, but people keep asking, they say, well, why is he in favor of it now? Why has there been this delay? And how do you see the release of the Epstein files from the beginning of this administration to present in terms of what's going on here? Like, why has it been so stop-start? Speaker really did a pretty good job laying out his concerns about, you know, information getting out in the public domain that really would be harmful to victims and is that going to be adequately protected and whatever gets released this time. Similar concerns, I think President Trump, as I would have similar concerns going, is this evidence of these documents untainted? I mean, let's face it, they're in the Biden, the midst of the Biden administration. I mean, that administration is doing everything they couldn't destroy Donald Trump during their four years. If there was something damaging to Trump, you would think that would have already been released. So I also take the president's word. I mean, he just, he doesn't, we have serious problems facing this nation. There are a lot of things he's addressing. Do we really need this distraction? Having said all that, I'm as curious as every other American. about what happened, bringing people to justice who are pedophiles, you know, engage this kind of abuse. So again, I'm as curious as anybody. We didn't take a vote, by the way. We just passed this by unanimous consent. I think before the bill even got over here. So, yeah, the Senate didn't want to take much time on this. That was a fight in the House. uh people who fought for disclosure one and uh now we'll see what we'll get yeah it's a rare it's a rare moment where things just fly through in bipartisan fashion in in the congress so now we're is once the president signs this and everyone believes it's going to get signed imminently 30 days for the release is that how this goes that's right here but again they're they still probably need to do a review and there will be some material with help and they've in the while they've got I think four or five very specific reasons of things that can be withheld but you know really this reflects the public wanted to see this and so as elected officials when you when you for a year are that's the number one thing that people are calling to your office is you know vote to release the Epstein files you know in the end representative government actually works Yeah. What do you have on the agenda here? I know the Senate goes into recess, what, next week sometime for Thanksgiving? What are you hoping can get done before the end of this year? Is there anything? Are you going to try to get some judges through? How's that going? What are you looking to get the Senate to finally push over the finish line here before we all head out for the holidays?

affiliated Republican groups, but for example, Wisconsin, 38 Wisconsinites. Just God-fearing, country-loving, law enforcement supporting people were on the enemy's list. They are literally trying to destroy a person of unbelievable integrity. Judge Troopers who just represented President Trump for two months after the election. There were serious problems in Wisconsin. They're criminalizing that behavior. They're attempting to. That's what all. Arctic Frost is all about criminalizing what basically JFK did in Hawaii, those alternate electors. It's just shameful. And I met with the Attorney General Pam Bondi and Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche. this week, and they are completely on board with exposure. And one of the things I point out is get us the communication records between Biden officials and Wisconsin officials on, for example, Judge Truppas. You know, let's see the coordination between the Biden administration, these outside groups, the Mary McCords, the Mark Elias, you know, all these legal groups that the left has that. are engaged in the lawfare across the board. Again, not just against President Trump, but ordinary Americans, people just have to support the Republican Party and President Trump. They're trying to destroy all these people. Senator Johnson, one more for you before we let you go. What is your favorite part of a traditional, and I don't know how you guys do it up in Wisconsin, but a traditional American Thanksgiving feast, your favorite dish? I mean, it's the turkey, it's the dressing, it's the gravy, it's the mashed potatoes, sweet potatoes and corn. That is my Thanksgiving dinner. I've got to have it all in the right portions. I start and portion it out, and I end with the exact portions for that final bite. We just literally had Thanksgiving lunch. John Bolton provided it, so I had a pre- Thanksgiving dinner. It was fabulous. Can't wait until Thursday, and I wish you and all your listeners are a very happy Thanksgiving. same to you senator thanks so much have a great holiday we'll talk to you soon take care The countdown of Christmas, we're just talking Thanksgiving, but the countdown of Christmas is on now, five weeks away. And I'm just trying to get you ahead of the craziness, my friends. How about an awesome gift that you, your family members are going to love? Rapid Radio's, okay? This is the modern day version of a walkie-talkie. And Rapid Radio's work on an LTE network, meaning they can connect to anyone anywhere in the U.S. who's holding the same device. And they'll tell you this can come in really handy. If you're far away from a family member and one of these experience a severe weather problem or service disruption, the first thing you want is to be able to stay in touch. And that...

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So this won't affect the money that Congress gives state schools and colleges. But why do we need a huge bureaucratic department as a pass-through for money that goes to state education programs? You start to think about this. You go, hold on a second. We have a whole agency in the Department of Education, whole department, that seems to exist to be the pass-through. The middleman for federal funds that go into, why don't we just, if we're going to get federal money to education, give money to states that are actually educating kids and running colleges and universities? So I think I'm all in favor of this. Education Secretary Linda McMahon has started a public campaign for the end of her department. Yes. Yes, that's what you like to see. The person running it saying this should not even be a job. This should go away. But there's been, you know, the Department of Education has really just been a progressive policy arm under the guise of education. But it's part of a... uh part of a really a lib deep state operation for a long time because department of ed is so left wing it doesn't really matter what administration is in charge republican or democrat the department of ed uh just pushes for policies that are left wing because that's who works there it's a bit like the department of uh or the environmental protection agency EPA is full of left-wing climate change loons. And so it doesn't matter if you have a Republican administration. You have ideologues in an agency who are pushing an agenda and doing so against the wishes of the Republican in the White House. So you got to clean things up. You got to deal with the mess. Yeah, I think this is great. You ask people, what is the, it's always so fun too. I go, okay, I go into GROC, as you know, I like GROC a lot. What does the Department of Education do? And let's just see what it says. And I'll read this to you. A cabinet-level federal agency created in 1980. Its main job is to oversee and support education, but it does not run public schools. It distributes federal funding. enforces federal education laws and collects research and administer student financial aid. So it's a pass-through for a lot of federal dollars, and it also, in terms of the civil rights of education, that's just pure, you know, DEI-obsessed, left-wing policy stuff. There's no actual need for any, no actual need for any of this. And think about this. How serious could the Department of Education be about civil rights when they have been unwilling to stop the madness of the gender identity disorder stuff going on in all these schools, where they have men pretend to be women? How can you say you're enforcing Title IX?

when a guy can say he's a girl and play on women's sports. So the Department of Education, got to go, hope it goes. They're moving in that direction. Democrats are going to fight because Democrats, they get to have policy through agencies and departments, even when they lose elections. And that's one of the incredibly important revelations of the Trump era. is that if you don't actually deal with this, even when we win elections as Republicans, you end up still with a lot of Democrat administration or Democrat policy pushed from these places. Now, she also spoke, Karoline Leavitt, also spoke about Zohran Mamdani meeting with Trump tomorrow. This is cut 28. Let's hear it. It speaks volumes that tomorrow we have a communist coming to the White House because that's who the Democrat Party elected as the mayor of the largest city in the country. I think it's very telling, but I also think it speaks to the fact that President Trump is willing to meet with anyone and talk to anyone and to try to do what's right on behalf of the American people, whether they live in blue states or red states or blue cities in a city that's becoming much more left than I think this president ever anticipated in his. many years of living in New York himself. You know why they are so touchy about the whole communist thing? Because we all know that there's some truth to it. If it were absurd, if it weren't really something that bothered them, then they wouldn't always say, no, it's a democratic socialist. He's a democratic socialist. You know, there was the American, I guess it still exists, but it's kind of a joke now, but the American Communist Party grew, and in the 1940s, I think it was basically about 100,000 people. You know what happened to them? They all became Democrats. You know what happened to the communist movement in America? It got folded into the Democrat Party. That's a whole other thing. That's a whole other thing. And there are some great books on this stuff. You can read, why do they hate Nixon so much? They really hate Nixon so much because he was a staunch anti-communist, and he worked to expose that there were a lot of Democrats who were willing to play footsie with communists back in the day. But I digress on that one. I digress. Look, I think Trump will be, as I said before, he'll be himself. He'll be charming and funny to Zohran Mamdani. He'll probably be some great lines. And what was the thing? What did Trump say to the... I didn't even know who he said it to, so I, but he was on Air Force One and some reporter interrupted him and he said, quiet, piggy. And the thing about this is, it's just the Democrats, they get so upset about it. They're going to get so angry about it. And it just encourages them to do more stuff like that. Like they're not going to make Trump stop being Trump. They can try, they can try to shame his supporters. It's not going to work. Yeah, I'd never see that. Can you guys pull that? I don't know if everyone's heard it. Do we have it? Trump's saying, quiet, piggy. I hope it's not AI. I don't think it was AI. Now I have to worry about any clip that I see. This is the world we're in, my friends. There's stuff that it can look very real. They have programs now that can make.

Trump looked like he said things close to what he said, but changed the words a little bit. This is the world that we are in right now. So that's why I'm always like, oh, gosh, I hope that's not AI, but I'm pretty sure he said, I'm pretty sure he said this one, just like I was sure that he was meeting Zohran Mamdani tomorrow. And he is. The Zohran Mamdani disaster in New York, I think, is inevitable. I hope it's not for New York's sake and for my family that are there. But I think the Zohran Mamdani situation is likely to get really, Get really bad. Really bad. We'll see. Oh, and Karoline Leavitt also got into an exchange with a reporter about that military PSA. Is it really even a PSA? It's just kind of an underhanded attack. But here she's just cut 29. Listen to it. The president and the vice president, for that matter, have accused the other side of encouraging political violence. Isn't that exactly what the president is doing when he says that members of Congress should be killed? Why aren't you talking about what these members of Congress are doing to encourage it incite violence? They are literally saying to 1.3 million active duty service members not to defy the chain of command, not to follow lawful orders. Every single... But they're suggesting, they're suggesting Nancy that the president has given illegal orders, which he has not. Every single order that is given to this United States military by this commander in chief and through this chain of command, through the Secretary of War, is lawful. And the courts have proven that. This administration has an unparalleled record at the Supreme Court because we are following the laws. We don't defy court orders. We do things by the books. And to suggest and encourage that active duty. duty service members defy the chain of command is a very dangerous thing for sitting members of congress to do and they should be held accountable and that's what the president wants to see he's not messing around and i think it just based on the number of you who are veterans yourselves or even active duty but veterans who have written in very unhappy with this this psa uh it's it's meant to be It's meant to undermine the commander-in-chief. Let's just be honest. It's meant to undermine the commander-in-chief. That is what they are doing. And it just goes with everything else. They have to tell stories, fables to themselves, to justify their trump derangement. And that's yet another example of it. All right, Christmas is five weeks. Is that right, five weeks from today? My gosh. So for any last-minute holiday shoppers in this audience, let me tell you, You don't want to grab a gift card. That's the easy way out. All right. I've got the suggestion your one-stop shop for all Christmas shopping needs. Cozy Earth. This is what I got for all my family members in New York. I got my mom a bubble, a pink bubble cuddle blanket. I got my dad a gray bubble cuddle blanket. Sounds slightly more masculine when it's gray. It's amazing blankets, though. I mean, I have one downstairs here that's white. Karen, I snuggle up with it with ginger and speed all the time. Cozy Earth products are just fantastic. I've got a sweatshirt from them. I've got sheets on my bed or from Cozy Earth. So I recommend you start with the sheets. Just get yourself some new sheets.

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The doctor secures AI. I should take my own advice and always bet on Buck because I was correct. There was, in fact, an exchange on Air Force One last week where Trump said, I mean, he's so Trump. Honestly, like, oh man, this guy, this guy. You know what, let's just, he's played for everybody. If you get heard that well, he said quiet piggy. Why is he calling her piggy? Oh, man, Trump. You're a funny guy. By the way, if you're curious, she's not, the reporter is a Bloomberg reporter. She's not overweight. So I just, he just. He just went with quiet piggy. I don't know. That's what he said. Oh, the president of the United States, telling a journalist, quiet piggy. This is the world as it is, my friends, as it is. Now, let's get into some of your talk back, some of your calls. I think we have Earl and Raleigh, North Carolina. Let's talk about that PSA. What's going on, Earl? Earl. Earl. Going once. Yeah, we got you, buddy. Go for it. Yeah, when these senators get up there and they say this kind of stuff, it's like a dog whistle, and they know that there's just enough disgruntled military members out there who are going to hear this message, and they're going to go out and they're going to do something crazy, some bizarre out, maybe illegal or whatever, and the senators can stand back. Well, you know, we never told them to do this. All we said was, hey, you know, don't follow illegal orders. And this, all it is, it's a way for them to incite. bad behavior, and then think that they can walk away without any dirt on their own hands. Remember that Air Force airmen a couple of years ago who burned themselves alive over Palestine? It's the same thing. It's getting people to do stuff and then saying, well, you know, we didn't tell them to do that specific thing. I agree with your assessment on the PSA. I didn't remember about that Air Force guy, but if you, that's, I don't remember that story, but. Thank you for bringing up something that I need to check up on. But thank you for calling in. Let's get to some of these talkbacks here. Podcast listener Marco Rubio.A. in North Carolina. Play it. Hey, Clay and Buck. This is Mark in Charlotte, North Carolina, listening to the podcast. It must be pretty nice being a bleeding heart liberal. There's no accountability. There's no precedent. There's no slippery slope. And you get to vert your signal in any way you wish. You get to enforce any laws that you want. And people will love you for it. All righty. Thank you very much. And have a great day. Hey, man. Thank you so much for listening to the podcast and getting on the talkback. For all the podcast listeners, talkbacks, the way to go. Because if you can't call in live, you can send us a talk back and get on air just like that. And yeah, I agree. One of the great appeals, unfortunately, of being a Democrat, being a liberal, is never having to face reality. You just want the good things for the good people. CC, Woody from Arizona. We'll get to this one.

Hey Buck afternoon, it's Woody in Arizona. This meeting between Trump and Zohran Mamdani needs to be televised because if it's not, you know Zohran Mamdani will come out of that meeting and he'll twist the truth of what was said and outright lie. So much like the showdown between Volodymyr Zelensky and Trump in the Oval Office that time was televised, this needs to be televised. The Trump Zohran Mamdani Revolution will be televised, perhaps. We will see. We will see. Thank you so much for being here with me, team. I'll be back with you tomorrow. Maybe, it depends on the, I don't know, air traffic control or whatever, but maybe Clay will join. Maybe not. We're not sure yet. But I'll definitely be here tomorrow. We'll have a great show. Talk to you then. Life moves fast. At American Military University, they're ready to help you keep up. AMU's flexible, affordable online programs in cybersecurity, IT, space studies, and more are designed for service members, veterans, and their families. AMU provides the support you need to take the next step, wherever life takes you. American Military University, made for what's next. Learn more at amu.apus.edu.edu. Entertain clients, reward employees, or enjoy a first-class race weekend with VIR's premium MSA hospitality experiences. August 21st through 23rd, enjoy exclusive viewing areas, premium amenities, food and beverage options, and access that puts you close to the action. Whether for business or pleasure, elevate your weekend at Virginia International Raceway. Explore and upgrade your tickets at VIRVIP.net. Vital doesn't always mean visible. Across America, advanced technology is working behind the scenes, strengthening our nation. It protects our war fighters, delivers mission-ready intelligence, advances life-saving healthcare, and defends the critical infrastructure that keeps our country moving. At GDIT, we power the systems that help America operate, connect, and stay secure. Every hour, every mission, every day. GDIT, behind America's invisible advantage. The first ever X-Games League Championship is going down live, and New Orleans has the call. Three days of elite action sports, a season's worth of competition, coming down to one final weekend. Watch July 24th through 26th on ABC, ESPN, and ESPN 2. Or stream on the ESPN app, X Games YouTube, Kik, Roku Sports Channel, and Amazon. The championship starts July 24th. Don't miss the moment it becomes history. These days, it seems like AI agents are just about everywhere you turn, every field and every function. But without identity, you can't trust they'll serve your business instead of jeopardizing it. Fortunately, ACTA helps you get identity right by securing your AI agent's identities, giving you a single layer of control, a single standard of trust. So whether an AI agent supports a single user or your entire enterprise, with ACTA, you'll turn risk into opportunity. Secure every agent. Secure any agent. Octa Secures AI.