Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Dec 5 2025

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stolen by criminal gangs and people getting checks when they're on death row and all this nonsense. Then you have $24 billion, the state auditor revealed, lost on homelessness spending that ended up in the pockets of crony non-profits and all this corruption there. And then you add to that, again, this is official money that shouldn't be being spent, $13 billion this year in the budget from Gavin Newsom. for free health care for illegal immigrants that shouldn't even be here in the country. That's just my basic math. You don't even need Tim Walz-level accounting skills. That's $57 billion that we know about. And that's before you get into the rest of the bloated Nanny State bureaucracy and welfare system here in California. So that's why this week I did two things. I set up a fraud hotline because a tip line because... You saw in Minnesota so many brave and honest state workers there trying to blow the whistle on all this for years, but being silenced and intimidated by Tim Walz and the Democrat machine. So I've set up a line callifraud.com for state workers in California to tell us what's going on. And secondly, I've been in touch with Kristi Noem, who made that a shocking revelation at the cabinet meeting this week, that half of the visas that they looked at. In Minnesota, we're fraudulent. I said, look, we need that kind of investigation here in California, too. I wrote her letter about that. I've been talking to senior leadership at DHS, who agree with me that an investigation is warranted, so hopefully we can make some progress on exposing this kind of nonsense right here in California. 24 billion dollars spent in California, as you call it, on the homeless industrial complex. I mean, one thing that I remember seeing is Gavin Newsom right when he became governor the first time talking about how, you know, I'm going to bring homelessness down to the lowest rates. And it's gone nothing but up. It's just the homelessness problem in California has only gotten worse since he has been in office. So what do they spend the $24 billion on? Well, actually, just to sort of underline the point, I think we're now in the, was it the 20, I lose track. I think it's the 22nd year of Gavin Newsom's plan to end homelessness in 10 years. I mean, it's just a joke. The money goes, as I said, into the pockets of there's the two big components of what we call the homeless industrial complex are crony non-profits who pretend to solve. the homelessness problem, but actually they're doing work that continues to let it continue without being addressed. So, for example, they're providing what they call permanent supportive housing. That is a euphemism for a home with no strings attached that costs a fortune. I've got friends who are, you know, supporters of mine in the house building industry, building apartments, free of all the government nonsense and all the corruption attached to this. Here in California, they can build an apartment for, I don't know, $250,000, $300,000 a door, as they call it. So that's the unit cost. The cost for these homeless, industrial complex apartments, permanent supportive housing, $800,000, $900,000, just now in San Francisco, in the Bay Area, a million dollars. So it's four times the cost.

For exactly the same kind of building. Why? Because it's being eaten up in payments to the other component of it, not just the crony non-profits, but the crony affordable housing developers, all of whom are massive donors to Gavin Newsom and the Democrat politicians, both at the state level and locally, and they get these massively inflated contracts to build this stuff, and they're running away with the taxpayer money. And meanwhile, the problem gets worse because none of these... units have any strings attached so people who we know that 80% plus of people who are homeless have drug addiction or alcohol addiction mental health problems they get given these homes with no strings attached so they end up back on the street dealing drugs using drugs it's just a total disaster all of it totally corrupt and we've got to bring it into it Speaking of building, I saw something where I think it was supposed to be a moment of congratulations in Los Angeles County. But Mayor Karen Bass, correct me if I'm wrong, they're applauding themselves because they just approved the first like four bedroom house since the Palisades fired, devastated whole neighborhoods, whole areas of Los Angeles. They've approved the four bedroom house to be rebuilt. Is that right? Oh, bug, I'm so glad you mentioned this. I literally was there yesterday afternoon. I walked right past. It made a little video. We'll be posting that, I think, over the weekend. So here's the deal. They trumpeted the first house, fully rebuilt after the fire. What's the truth about this house? First of all, it's not a real house. It's a show home built by a developer. No one's ever going to live in it. Secondly, it was all approved and permitted before. The fires. The fires, the one thing that they didn't get was a permit for bulldozing what was on the property beforehand, but that took care of itself with the fires. Then they didn't need the permit. So the whole thing is a farce, and this is what they're trumpeting as a success. Remind it, right, and just on the day when Gavin Newsom is in D.C. saying we need federal money, we need Trump's not giving us the support that we need. When it was Gavin Newsom. Nearly a year ago now, who stood there in the smoldering debris of the Palisades Fire and told NBC News, I put the video clip out again yesterday to remind people, I am developing a Marshall Plan. That's his quote, a Marshall Plan to rebuild L.A. And they can barely do one house. I mean, this guy's a complete joke. It's astonishing. We're speaking to Steve Hilton. He's running for governor in California. And I certainly hope you're able to. continue to make a lot of noise about what's going on in that state, Steve, because it needs help. But I also wanted you to tell us your take on this. You probably saw this. It got a little overshadowed by some other news stories this week, but I'll just tell you what happened. Governor Josh Shapiro of Pennsylvania was asked about his portrayal in Kamala Harris's awful book, 107 days, which I will tell you. Just because I got to take a bow for this one. I read. I read so that somebody on this show, because I told Clay, only one of us has to hop on this hand grenade. So I said, I will read it. I'll read it. So I read 107 days. It's terrible.

felt like it was 107 days to read it. And she basically said Josh Shapiro was like arrogant and this is in the whole VP race component of her campaign. I bring it up because Josh Shapiro apparently just swatted this down with, she's just trying to cover her behind and she's an absolute train wreck, more or less. Is that a, I know that we, you and I feel that way because we can observe reality. Are Democrats pretty called on Kamala Harris in California? Yes, they don't want to see her back in any kind of race. There was no support for her floating the idea of running for governor. The donors weren't behind it. The activists weren't behind it. They said, please, that's the last thing we want. So even in her home state for running for governor, there was no support for that. And you've got to believe. Josh Shapiro on this because we see the pattern with people like Kamala Harris and with Gavin Newsom and with Biden. They're all the same. They're these machine politicians. They don't believe in anything. They'll say whatever is convenient to try and climb that political ladder and further their careers. They have no principles, no beliefs, no convictions, nothing. And that's why they end up saying. Totally different things, contradictory things all the time. They lie for a living. They are pathological liars. And so on this particular one, you've got to assume that Josh Shapiro's right. But there's no appetite for Kamala Harris here in California, just as there isn't across the country if she decides to run for president. Are you already seeing, though, the early efforts by the Gavin Newsom for President Kevin? Are you hearing the super fancy fundraisers in Malibu? Are they going to be getting the hors d'oe here in short order? What can you tell us about those machinations? Well, not so much in Malibu because they haven't been able to rebuild their homes in Malibu. Oh, whoops. Yeah, I forgot about that. Somewhere else were they're fancy, Beverly Hills. Exactly. You've got to build the luxury mansions back before you do that. Look, I don't know. You're definitely, certainly there's a, there's a, he's in a different category to Kamala Harris. They believe he's a winner. They really do. They think that he's the guy. They are lining up behind him, I'm hearing that definitely from the donor community. in California. They're going to be proud and excited to support him. So, you know, watch out America. The worst, as I call him, Mugger, the most useless governor in America. He's coming your way to try and replicate on the national stage what he's done here in California, which is the worst results in the country, the highest gas prices, highest electric bills, highest unemployment rate, highest poverty rate, highest cost for everything that matters. 50th out of 50 states on affordability. 50th out of 50 states on opportunity. And this guy thinks, can I just tell you one last story if we have time? Yeah, sure. He hasn't got much attention. This just came to light. It's such a Gavin Newsom classic. So just nearly seven years ago in his first budget as governor, he made a huge fuss about the fact that the state's emergency communication system was antiquated, analog, total disaster, not fit for purpose if there are fires or an earthquake. He was going to modernize the whole thing.

So here's what was announced this week. In the intervening nearly seven years, they have spent half a billion dollars on this new, essentially new phone line, and at the end of it all, it doesn't work at all, and they've just announced that they're scrapping the whole thing. This guy, for half a billion dollars, can't even produce a working phone line, and he wants to be president. I mean, it's just such a joke. I saw that your possible competition here, I don't think she's announced yet, but people on the Democrats side talk about the Katie Porter, but her numbers are looking a little shaky because the more people know about Katie Porter, it seems, the less they want to support Katie Porter for governor of California. Well, funny enough, I'm just in San Jose today. I was just literally on the debate. It's not really a debate. They call it a candidate's forum with Katie Porter and a couple of the others, including billionaire climate fanatic Tom Steyer, who I had great fun pointing out is one of the main architects of the fact that everything's so expensive in California. So she's still in the race. Her numbers are down a little bit, but not collapsed at all. But the new entrant that we're all... Very excited to see what happens with is our friend Eric Swalwell, who's now running. And so as I say often, I can't decide who I'd rather face in the general election, Katie Porter with the endless opportunity for mashed potato jokes, or Eric with the endless opportunity for Fangfang jokes. I don't know which to choose in terms of my preference. Amazing stuff. Thank you so much for being with us, Steve. What's your website for governor? Steve Hilton forgovernor.com, F-O-R. Steve Hilton for governor.com. We've got to beat this Democrat machine, so any help with that. Gratefully received. Thank you, Buck. Good to see you. Got to beat that machine. All right. If you've got sports smarts like our buddy Clay, you want to be putting that to good use on the prize picks app. On prize picks, you can pick from dozens of projections on player performance and choose two or more to test your knowledge. If your projections are correct, you're going to make a lot of money. Get started today on prize picks. Download the app. Get $50 instantly in lineups when you play your first $5. With millions of members and billions of dollars awarded in winnings, prize picks is the best place to put your player knowledge to the test. Prize picks is all about the players and their performance. The app is simple to use. Just pick two or more players across any sport. Pick more or less based on their projection. And if you're right, you could cash in. Prize picks available in 40 plus states, including California, Texas, Florida, and Georgia. When you download the prize picks app, use my name Buck as your code. Get $50 instantly in lineups when you play $5. That's code Buck. on prize picks to get $50 instantly in lineups when you play $5. Win or lose, you get $50 in lineups just for playing guaranteed. Prize picks. It's good to be right. Must be present in certain states. Visitpricepix.com for restrictions and details.

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Thad, the Silverback Gene. Silverback Nation makes some noise. Versus Camille Musayev. Oh, it's over! For the PFL well-to-weight world title. On Real! Saturday, July 25th and 10 p.m. Eastern on ESPN. Got plans this summer? A brewery crawl? Another lake trip? The same festival you've been to three times already? Do something different. This August, Virginia International Raceway becomes the ultimate summer destination. Watch Inns' Michelin GT Challenge at VIR. August 21 through 23rd brings some of the fastest sports cars to battle through VIR's legendary corners. Camp with friends. Enjoy live music and experience a weekend you'll actually be talking about afterward. Start planning now at govir.net. Clay Travis with the Clay and Buck Show, wishing you and your family a very merry Christmas and a happy new year. Thanks for being here with us. We will get updates for you. I know you're on the edge of your seats. You're like, Buck, forget about the fate of the Republic. Who cares about the economy, war and peace in the Caribbean with Venezuela? None of those things matter until we know. the U.S. men's national soccer team draw. So we'll get you that information as good as we can. They're playing, you know, Spain, Argentina, and Bolivia? Who are they playing? We'll get you that when we can. I promise I will not leave that off of our list of things to inform you of today. Yeah, Clay is at the FIFA event. Trump just got the FIFA piece. award. I think years ago, FIFA was super corrupt. Sounds about right. Wasn't there some big problem with FIFA? There's maybe even a documentary about it. I can't remember now. The only FIFA that I know of is the, I'm not going to lie, the PlayStation 5 video game, which I am really good at. Like, very good. I probably play it too much. I find it very relaxing for the mind. It's a very, I really don't watch TV. very much. I'll watch shows here and there. Carrie and I, I think we're about to start watching Task, which has got the annoying actor who has the really left-wing politics, Mark Ruffalo, but I've heard it's good on HBO. I just, I like to watch on the weekends, you know, a little wifie time. We put speed to sleep. I had speed myself last night. Carrie went out for a girl's night. Went out, you know, when I went out to, not dancing, but, you know, went out to dinner, had fun with the ladies and everything else. She says, do you want to come? I said, you know what? I'm just going to rock out with speed. You know, we watched a samurai show? That's what did two guys do? When Wi-Fi is out on the town with the ladies, it's Art Basil here this week in Miami, which is very fancy. So I, everyone, this is always the funny thing that happens. Everyone always asks me who comes down to Miami around this time of year, oh, what are you doing for Basil?

And I have to tell them, well, the people who know me already know this, but the people who don't know me that well, I have to tell them, whatever does not require me to leave my home, see people or be in any traffic. The traffic here is total madness. It's like the UN General Assembly, but with fancy artwork, like UN General Assembly in New York, where it's just gridlock everywhere. There's a lot of, it's a great event for Miami, and I'm glad everyone has fun, and there's parties and everything else. But, you know, I'm... I was having a great time. Speed and I were watching the samurai stuff. It's great. You know, it was really fun. So why was it telling you about? Oh, yeah, the show, task. I'll probably check that out. It's tough to find a good show. But I do enjoy, I got started playing the occasional video game during COVID because I was locked at home just. you know, eating gluten-free mac and cheese. We have Clay right now. See, look at the amazing tap dancing that I do here while we're waiting for Mr. Clay Travis to call us from the FIFA event. Hey, buddy, everyone's waiting for you. How you doing? It's pretty spectacular, Buck. I'm not going to lie. I'm just stepped out here in the grand foyer outside of the theater where hopefully soon, you know, they just had. the prime minister of Canada and the president of Mexico and Trump on. I don't know if people are watching. They're about to start the draw sooner or later. But this thing is really well done, very well put on. Roma Der Ravi, you know, who has been on the show before, is one of the board members here. But they put on an absolute spectacular show so far. They took over the Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Center. FIFA did. And look, a lot of people are having this conversation. I do think it's cool. People say, okay, well, why is the president involved? What's going on here? I think Trump 100% sees this as a huge part of America's 250th anniversary celebration. He's going to have the UFC fight. He's going to put on a show the likes of which we haven't seen in a very long time. And I think he wants the whole world to recognize what pretty much everybody out there listening to us would agree with. which is this is the absolute best country that's ever existed in the history of the world, and we should put our best face forward for the 250th anniversary of the country. And so the birthday celebration is going to include this incredible sporting festival that hasn't been here in 30 years. So I think it's going to be awesome. And I've got my fingers crossed. I was out with our friend Alexi Wallace last night for dinner who... You know, we've had on the show quite a bit, the lead soccer analyst for Fox Sports. And, you know, he's already run through the best possible draw. For people who don't know, the draw can dictate to a large extent whether you advance to the knockout stage. And, you know, hopefully we'll get a good draw here in the next 20, 30 minutes. I don't know that it's out there very publicly, but two of the games are going to be played in Los Angeles for the U.S. men. and one of them is going to be played in Seattle. So they already know where the location for the games are going to be for the U.S. team, but they don't know who's going to actually be playing. So that's what we're waiting on right now for this event to determine.

Clay, we are the best country, but unfortunately we're not the best soccer team. That's for sure. How is the U.S. men's team? I'm sure you know Lexi talked about this. Are they actually going to maybe get out of the first knockout stage? Yeah, so he felt good about them. So they now have expanded the knockout stage to 32 teams from 16. And he felt good about them getting to the round of 32. Again, we have to wait and see exactly what the group play is going to be. But he felt good about that. And look, we're around the 12th to the 13th best team, the United States men are. And so, yeah, I think that's about the FIFA rankings. Somebody in the studio can pull them up exactly. But, you know, the problem is there's sometimes a big drop off. The talk is it's. Spain, it is France, Spain, France, and England, in addition, obviously, to Brazil and Argentina and that caliber of team. So what we have is not anywhere near the talent that the elite programs have, the elite countries, so we have to rely on some good fortune, good luck, the ball bouncing, our proverbial way, in order to make some noise, I think. And I will say, There was hope. You know this. This was going to be kind of the golden generation that we were going to have a lot of good young players that all came together, as sometimes occurs in countries. And I just think the Christian Pulistics of the world that were supposed to be the stars of this team have not necessarily advanced like we would have hoped four years ago in terms of becoming the best at what they do. Now, how was it in there when Trump got his Peace Award, the FIFA Peace Award? Is there grumbling about this from the Jernos? I mean, it's a high five for Trump. Oh, yeah, the Jernos are furious in the sports media. And you know this. It's kind of very interesting. When you think about it, in America, soccer is kind of a sport for... the left wing, I would say, sort of elite people. Whereas in most of the rest of the world, soccer is the game that all the poor kids play, right? In America, it's kind of flipped. Soccer tends to have a higher socioeconomic status. And so soccer fans overwhelmingly skew Democrat, right? You know, not necessarily the yay America fans, but just the hard-for soccer fans. They're furious about it. But, you know, I kind of love it. But yes, that element of the American sports media is just throwing up their arms. And it's, I think, kind of smart with Trump to lean in on this because, you know, we were last night out with some of the international soccer players at a FIFA event. And several of them were kind of rolling their eyes at the idea, the European guys, that Trump was going to get this Peace Prize today.

Which, again, I just think is absolutely spectacular. I just throw them crazy. Yeah, I was going to say, for nothing else, the trolling value of Trump getting the award is fantastic. Something, Clay, that I'm just curious about the atmospherics here. The streets of D.C. You're obviously with a lot of D.C. residents there. A lot of people live there, the Gernos and others. White House staff, you know, give Stephen Miller a high-five from the Clay and Buck Show. Is there talk about the streets really feeling? I know we just had the horrible incident with the National Guard, but that was really a terrorist attack. Is there a sense that things are safer from a crime perspective? Yeah, I do think that's the case. I mean, I was talking to some people last night, and they said they just don't feel like they have to look over their shoulder as much when they're going around in D.C. Now, like many cities, parts of D.C. are comparatively safe. You know, the Northwest D.C., which is where the White House is tends to be safer than Southeast, for instance, for people who know the area. So the driving down of violent crime, though, has been pretty spectacular across the board. You know, we're talking about 60% declines to, you know, frankly, lows of crime that we have not seen almost in the history of the city of Washington. And you know it's going well because you don't hear anything hardly at all about the protests going on anymore. And I will say, I didn't see them. But there were evidently going to be protesters outside of the Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Center, go figure, protesting Trump getting the Peace Award. And so when I was walking in, I walked through a group of D.C. cops, and they were all talking about the fact I heard them getting a briefing. They were saying, hey, guys, just be aware. We're expecting some protesters to show up. You know, they've got the area fenced, so you have to go through security because the presidents are here. But I was kind of hoping that I would see these bedraggled, you know, old people protesting the World Cup and Trump getting the Peace Prize, not dissimilar to what we saw when we were up here a little bit less than a year ago for the inauguration. So there definitely is the sense that the city is safer, but there's still that, you know, tiny baseline of absolute morons. that will even show up to protest a FIFA event because they think that the president is being honored too much at the FIFA event. I also, you've got to get some reaction from the journos that are several there, Clay, for me about how this is a big week for Trump and peace, because not only did he get the FIFA Peace Prize, which we played that live on air as he was talking, you know, saying thank you and all that. He's renamed the Institute of Peace for himself. Yeah. Yeah, no, look, I mean, I actually thought Trump's acceptance speech was relatively humble as Trump accepted speeches go, but he immediately put his gold medal of peace on, which has got everybody losing their minds. And let's be honest, I mean, he should have gotten the Nobel Peace Prize.

So the fact that FIFA has created their own Peace Prize and that he is the inaugural recipient is somewhat funny. But again, I think speaks to the good relationship that he has with the President of FIFA. And I give President of FIFA credit because, again, there are lots of European countries that are soccer watching this right now live. You know, they say up to a billion people may be watching this World Cup draw, which is... crazy, right, to think about around the world because it's such a big deal to see who you're going to play and where you're going to play. And so the president understands certainly speaking to big audiences, but there are a lot of diehard soccer fans that are furious that Trump got the Peace Prize, which frankly I love. Oh, me too. Well, Clay, thank you for doing some on-the-scene sports correspondence for us here. Very good stuff. No doubt. I'll send you a memo if we get a voice memo. You guys can play. If we get a good draw and I'll break it down the likely success here. I might even pass the phone to Alexie Lawless and let him be the official expert analyst of the draw. That's fantastic. We're here. We're live. Let us know. And we will certainly also talk to you. On Monday, so if I don't talk to you before, then have a great weekend, man. All right, everybody else out there, too, and fingers crossed, we get a good draw here very shortly. Oh, everyone's baited breath from all the SEC football fans about the U.S. soccer bracket. We'll see how this goes. Thank you, Clay. All right. This holiday season, this holiday season, think big, think fun. Think of surprising a friend or a family member where they give from Good Ranchers, the company sending delicious mouth-watering steaks and burgers to your home. Look, full disclosure. Carrie and I subscribe to Good Ranchers and get a fresh package of their meats, chicken, pork every month. It's like Christmas morning every month, no matter what time of year. Good ranchers sources 100% of their proteins from American ranchers. Every one of them makes a commitment to no growth hormones, no antibiotics in the animals they raise. The result is pure, delicious meat, chicken, pork, even salmon. Good Ranchers makes gifting easy. Just choose any gift box, add a note, and schedule delivery. And whether it's for family, friends, employees, or clients, Good Ranchers makes the most memorable gift. Visit good ranchers.com to start gifting. Subscribe. Use my name Buck as your promo code for $40 off your first order and free meat for life. Good Ranchers.com, $40 off plus free meat for life with code Buck. Stories of freedom, stories of America, inspirational stories that unite us all. Each day, spend time with Clay and Buck. Find them on the free I-Hard Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. We are joined now by Senator Markwayne Mullin of Oklahoma. Senator, always good to talk to you. Thanks for making the time for us. Oh, absolutely. Glad to be on your show again.

Now, that doesn't mean that we're going to commit troops to the country. That's not what we're, that's not what we've committed to do. What we will do, though, is if we have labs that are making the narcotics, that are killing our friends and family and loved ones on our, on our streets, in our towns, and our states, that we will strike those inside Venezuela if we have to. We're able to do that because we've done this with terrorist organizations. all over the world. I mean, you think about, you know, for these Democrats are throwing a fit about the president using this kinetic force. They never said a word when Obama, when he killed his thousands with drone strikes and air strikes, two same terrorist organizations that the United States deemed as a terrorist organization. I have zero issue with what's happening, and I think the president's approach to Venezuela is spot on. Senator Markwayne Mullin with us now of Oklahoma. Something I wanted you to weigh in on, and I know that this is something you have a personal understanding of, which is the position of American ranchers and the beef industry. You know, this has come up a bunch with Trump and the tariff talks. Just can you tell us, how is it going for American ranchers right now? And is there any policy fix change or addition that should be made? Because having a robust beef industry, not just because I love a good steak. It's my favorite actual food. But how is that part of our economy doing? And how is the Trump administration working to bolster it? Well, it's tough. You know, we're a cow-cab operation. We have a lot of cattle, and we've seen the prices drop sharply. There's been a lot of dispute from those of us that sell on the hoof. That means the cow or the steer itself that we're selling. We call that on the hoof. There's a big difference between what we get market price and what is selling out of the meatpackers by the box, beef by the box. Huge difference in pricing. What we don't understand is why the pricing has continued to drop. The president had put out a couple of statements, and the market, in my opinion, overreacted on it. And then the president said he was going to start investigating the big four meatpackers for price fixing, which we feel like they are. And then immediately you saw Tyson come out and said they're closing their doors, which they did. And so you've got three major meatpackers left, and the interesting thing is all three of those are foreign-owned. And they're controlling the market. It's not a free market where you consolidate that much. And it's very tough to be a rancher today. There is any startup ranches today. You can't do that. You either own your land and you're running cattle on it, so your landowner that has cattle on it, or, you know, you're going broke because you can't have both.

When I first started, you could run cattle and purchase land based on the land and how many heads you thought you could run on it. That would make sense. Today, land prices are so high. Tractor prices are so high. Your input costs from your fertilizer to your seed to grain and to labor costs, it doesn't make any sense if you're trying to make a land payment on top of that with cattle alone. So it's a very, very tough industry. industry and it's the one of the few, it's the only, it's the only protein industry that has it consolidated into corporate farms. You see it, you know, chicken as, chicken and pork obviously consolidated into, into corporate farms. Beef is, we have been able to prevent that from happening. But if we don't take a hard, complete look at this, you could see where that might turn into it because it's, it's very difficult. Hoof prices right now are not hook prices, but our herd is down to the level of, of 1953 and only getting worse because right now people are going to are having to sell off they were trying to sell off because of prices but they got some loans on some of this stuff they've got to sell at low prices so they're trying to have to sell more head than what they'd even anticipated to do Senator can I ask you just in the realm of what might be helpful or I want you you know way more about this industry than I do I'm totally a student here I have no expertise at all other than as I said I want a robust uh robust meat industry domestic meat industry here in america for a whole bunch of reasons to that end is is there an adjustment that should be made to country of origin labeling so that people know you know my beef or my chicken whatever is from here in in in america in the heartland You could do that. Studies that show that it probably wouldn't make that big of a difference for those that need, because they're still going to buy by the price. They're going to purchase things that they can afford. What we really probably need to start looking at is there's crop prices. So there's always a backstop for the farmers. we might have to be looking at some point that there's a backstop for ranchers too. Kind of like there's crop insurance. We maybe have to look at some type of beef insurance. There used to be that out there, but it's just not affordable today. And so we've had a lot of conversations with the farmers and our ranchers combined, but beef is just so, so, so unique. And so we've, Congress is really good at working off emergencies and waiting until the last minute and sometimes it's too late. I think these conversations that we're having is helpful, but we're nowhere near trying to figure out how to happen and how to make it work, because at the same time, there's a lot of ranchers out there and say, hey, just the best thing government can do is just get out of our way. Just let the market work. Just don't touch us. And there's a lot to be said about that. But then there's the other ones that saying we can't afford to go unless there's somebody backing us. And banks are not backing. And I think just think for a senator, for people like me that don't know much, I mean, the American beef industry, just a quick search on it, it's a hundred billion dollar industry for everybody. It's a big deal, right? It matters, a big industry, matters to our economy, matters the country. So we'll continue to look at that. And obviously, if at any point there's something you want to bring to our attention on that one.

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on January 6th, would Donald Trump have pardoned him? No, because individuals who walked into the Capitol building on January 6th were not planting pipe bombs. What about the ones? But what about the ones that used the American flag to beat police officers? But again, it's rich to me that now the media is saying we have no idea what the motive is for this person. Hold on. What about the people? What about the people? 48 hours of January 6th, did everything they could to say this was intended to foment additional chaos? What? To detract the law enforcement. Is that the media as if you're not at this table. I get that you don't want to grapple with the fact of what happened. No, let me ask you, let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. What about the people who assaulted and beat police officers on January 6th? I have regularly said anyone who commits a violent crime. Do you think that they are just trespassing, that they were wrongfully prosecuted? Well, 1,000 people didn't beat police officers. on January 6th. Okay. Sorry. Everyone's like, whoa, what's going on? It's like they're in the middle of the scrum, the melee that's going on there. Can I give it to you to just make your initial point? Because it seems like the host there slash whoever else is kind of, you know, chiming in. Doesn't understand that walking into the Capitol and taking a selfie and planning a pipe bomb? are different things help work work through that for us well you know it's obvious that everything is violence except actual violence to the left right words are violence ideas are violence the american flag is violence but planting pipe bombs actually isn't violent, I guess, according to CNN. That was just one of many different topics we covered on this very fiery panel last night. I, of course, being the metaphorical punching bag where every question I was asked, two words in, the host just immediately spoke over me and completely ignored everything that I was saying. For example, I answered that question. I think there was one snippet there about if violent protesters deserve to be pardoned or not. I said, of course not. If anyone is beating a police officer, of course they need to be in prison for such behavior. And then she just completely ignored that six or six. seven times. But what was really interesting to me is this panel was so obsessed with running interference for anyone that they remotely associated with being on the left. And when it came to this particular conversation about the arrest that was made against Brian Cole Jr., the alleged pipe bomber from January 5th is when he planted those bombs, 2021, but they were discovered on January 6th in the midst of all the chaos. They literally had the audacity to say, well, let's just state the obvious. This guy's black, so he'll never get a presidential pardon for planting. pipe bombs. The obsession that these people have, particularly the left-wing establishment media, with excusing any sort of political violence as long as it fits their agenda, if that's something as ridiculous as planting a pipe bomb or a school shooting against Catholic schoolchildren because they're Catholic and therefore are somehow extremists for our country, or even all-out assassinations of people like our friend Charlie Kirk. It's becoming so obvious to me in the last three months, more than ever before in my career.

that the demons are getting louder and evil is being exposed with every passing day. The literal darkness I felt in the CNN studio yesterday was very palpable. I said that to my team as I walked out. And I'm realizing after these last few months, I don't know that I'll ever be the same again, realizing how strong that evil has taken hold in our country. So we just went into kind of an intense and serious direction there, but it is a Friday. And I'm actually now, Isabel, you can't, I don't think you can see this, but I am now holding. The famous fellow known as Baby Speed. Oh, I can't see. I wish I could. He's, anyone who's watching on the YouTube can see it. And he's now speaking up a little bit. Oh, there he is. Oh, he's grabbing the microphone. He's a lot of fun. This is what happens during live radio. You and I have a child about the same age. Whoa. Okay. He loves the mic. I'm going to give him back now. We have a child about the same age. That was just for all the video watchers. What's it like? What's the whole parent thing been like for you? And whoa, there he is. Sorry. I love that Baby Speed wants to have his own podcast because my daughter, Ila, constantly is talking all the time. I keep saying there's a lot of money to be had in a baby podcast somewhere. So maybe we should start one. I love it. I had my daughter at the end of April, her birthday was April 30th. And truly, as I'm sure you know, as a new parent, my whole life has changed in all of the best ways since then. I am a completely different person. I view the world completely differently. But in the most beautiful, holistic way, I think there's such a greater purpose to... what I do every day. It gives me a reason to jump out of bed in the morning to know exactly what I'm fighting for. And I've never experienced this depth of love ever before in my life. It is truly magical. It is incredible. I honestly, I love being a parent every single day and even the days when the sleep is not great and maybe. Speed is a pretty amazing baby, but he can be, you know, he's a baby. He can get a little fussy sometimes at night. I will say my wife is incredible and she handles like 90% of the really challenging stuff. But I pitch in sometimes. I try to be a very involved dad. But I do think, and I want to, are you Gen Z or are you like, you know, you're Gen Z. I'm very, very proudly the first year of Gen Z. I will wear that as a badge of honor until the day I die. You are Gen Z. I think. that there is, just for my observation, that people are now in the culture here in America thinking about family and building families in a more, just generally in a very positive way, but also, I'm talking about the youth, you know, the young people now. And at a younger age, like I feel like there has been a shift toward family, toward thinking at least about family. The numbers I know don't bear this out, the numbers are that we're going down, but I feel like the conversation has changed. Is that wishful thinking on my part? How do you see it? No, I think that's a very beautiful and accurate diagnosis of where young people's culture is at in this country. You're right. The numbers are very, very sad when it comes to the state of America's fertility rate. That includes just the choice to have children. We are at a 100-year low fertility rate in our country, which is coupled with one of the lowest marriage rates we've ever had in our country's history. That is the legacy and story, sadly, of the millennial generation.

was constantly bombarded with anti-marriage and anti-family messaging. That messaging has gotten so overtly loud and honestly crazy. Like people are actually running headlines like the Los Angeles Times last year just before the election. It is almost shameful to want to have children. real headline that I think people are starting to see between the lines and read between all of this craziness to realize there is a very clear agenda to make you lonely, depressed, and miserable. I mean, for God's sakes, the last surgeon general of the United States, our top-ranking doctor under the Biden admin, actually issued a public health warning that parenting is dangerous to your health. This was real on the record from the federal government because it seems making more people somehow makes you more. lonely, which makes no sense, right? But young people are also having this massive revival of faith. And I think so much of that has to do with voices like Charlie Kirk, like the Clay and Buck Show here and so many other people that are tapping into this spiritual crisis young people have had for several generations now, realizing we have to fight for what is good and true and beautiful in culture, way more than we ever fight for politics. And at the cornerstone of that is reviving the American family. All of my friends are engaged. married or having babies my best friend shout out to Savannah had her baby last night first baby it's just so exciting to see that revival of family all across our country led by Genzi I also think this is maybe a little bit of an aside but it's it's related you know they've walked back and Bill Gates and others have walked back some of the climate change, dumerism, stuff that's out there. And I feel like they owe an apology to people. They managed to convince some people. This was a real thing. It's hard to think that it could be, but it was real, that climate extinction. or climate change extinction was so severe, meaning that if people didn't stop having kids, we would go extinct because we would overstress the resources of the planet. It's a crazy idea, but they... convince people of that, Isabel. And now they're like, yeah, maybe we missed the mark on that a little bit. Yeah, in case you didn't hear this, because Lord knows the media didn't cover it just a few days ago, Bill Gates came forward and said, yeah, oops, actually there is no climate crisis anymore. We fixed it. Sorry to have alarmed you that we're all going to die in literally 12 years. I mean, the propaganda is just insanity. But I have to say, I'm just so encouraged to see ordinary people, regardless of where you fall in the political spectrum or what your personal deepest held down. are realizing that life is meant to be shared with the people that we love. Just a few days ago, the Wall Street Journal came to our house and covered my family on the cover of the Wall Street Journal about the revival of the American family and young women really tapping into this idea that we can have thriving careers and entrepreneurship and some of the girl boss culture without the toxic corporate element to that. But more importantly, that means nothing if we don't have our children to share it with and a legacy to build upon, which had resounding

positive effects and lots of great response from people. So I'm incredibly excited about this family revival. My daughter means so much more to me than any paycheck ever will. And the response I'm getting, even from young women on the very radical left about this, that they're quitting their birth control, they're deleting their dating apps, they are desperate to find a God-fearing husband and wanting to build a family out of the big city and restoring American roots of what the American dream has always looked like. I love to see it. Can you just have a little conversation, though, with some of your female millennial peers? These oversized... Like dad, they're not even dad jeans. They're, they're, I don't know what they are. These giant jeans that these women are walking around. Am I wearing baggy jeans from the 90s right now? Yes, yes I am. You know what? I'm all about it. The mom gene has made a return and my postpart of mom body is grateful for it. Allie, is she wearing mom? Am I telling her to shut down the mom jeans and she's wearing them right now in the studio? Oh. They're not like horribly baggy, but they are pretty baggy. Some of these jeans that I see these young women wearing, I'm like, you might as well be wearing a burqa. I'm just saying this is crazy talk, but. Apparently some of you think they're comfortable. I'm not a fashion guys. I sit here in a t-shirt. You know, it's funny you say burqa. I actually saw several burqas in the wild in Washington, D.C. a few days ago. So sadly, here in New York, where I am, too, I think that will probably be one of the next fashion statements if we don't bring back a classic cut, boot cut gene. I'm all about the classic American gene. All right, Isabel Brown. Isabel Brown Show, go check it out, everybody. And Isabel, thank you for being here with us. Great to talk to you. Thanks for coming to hang with the team in New York. Thanks for having me back. Merry Christmas, everybody. Merry Christmas. There's not another not profit out there that does what Preborn does, and I'm so glad that they're doing what they do because Preborn is saving the lives of tiny babies day in and day out. Consider how they welcome Victoria at one of their clinics. Before she visited one of the preborn clinics, Victoria found herself at a Planned Parenthood facility. She was scared, confused, and desperate. She was handed the abortion pill, but almost immediately she thought that would be a tragic mistake. The weight of regret was so crushing. She even thought about ending her own life. But her continuing search led her to a pre-born network clinic where truth and clarity broke through. Their loving staff members gave her immediate care and helped her save not just her baby's life, but her own. Victoria got truthful answers about matters related to her unborn child at that pre-born clinic because when a mother hears it, lives are saved. Just $28 provides a free ultrasound to women like Victoria. That single gift, that experience of meeting her unborn child makes all the difference.

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