Hour 3 - Speak Up, Girl Dads!

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Welcome back in, Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show. I appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We roll into the third hour of the program. We're going to be joined by the lieutenant governor of Georgia, Burr Jay Jones, here in a sec. But let me set the table for several different things that have happened during the course of the program. Day four, search for Nancy Guthrie. Still no major news about where she might be. As that continues, that is the mom of Savannah Guthrie. She went missing in Arizona. 1-800 call FBI is the tip line there for any of you in Arizona or anywhere else that may be able to help with the mystery of what has transpired with her. Breaking news reports from various different sites. Friday's nuclear talks between the U.S. and Iran have been canceled. And so the odds of, I would imagine, strikes from the United States on Iran have as a result grown. The second would be Trump assassin. Ryan Ralph has been sentenced to life in prison. as that is going on. And the American Society of Plastic Surgeons and the American Medical Association, we'll talk with Carol Markowitz at the bottom of the hour about this, have both said that trans surgeries on young people should not be occurring. That comes in the wake of a $2 million verdict in New York. And Buck, big story out of Washington, D.C. in media. Jeff Bezos finally, you were at Blue Origin, which is the space company of Jeff Bezos on Monday. Jeff Bezos is finally fed up with the Washington Post, which he purchased for $250 million back in 2013. He now is saying, basically, I'm done with what the Post has become. They are firing one third of all of the employees at the Washington Post. They became a subscription newspaper. They were virulently anti-Trump in term one. The Post refused to endorse in the election of 2024. Subscribers revolted because there's a far left-wing news organization. And so everyone out there who was a subscriber, many of them cut. Jeff Bezos finally said, I'm tired of losing tens of millions of dollars. It's a big story there that I think maybe we could talk about a little bit Thursday, Friday, as the weekend rolls on. But we are joined now by the lieutenant governor of Georgia, Bert Jay Jones. And it is National Girls and Women's Sports Day. And in the state of Georgia, there is a big Senate race coming up. And I'll start with this question for you, Lieutenant Governor Bert Jay Jones. Jon Ossoff, who is running for Senate re-election in Georgia, be a big decision in 2026 for the people of Georgia. He actually thinks men should be able to compete in women's sports. I can't imagine that is something that the vast majority of Georgians agree with, particularly the dads out there.

Why do you think the state of Georgia has elected Republicans to statewide office by and large that are in state government, but has now three consecutive cycles elected senators who are Democrats and don't really represent the state of Georgia, particularly on this issue, which is just a cultural flashpoint, very well at all. And can that change in 26? Yeah, I think you could definitely change. Obviously, the last election cycle, you know, the president, President Trump, who's endorsing me for governor, won Georgia by a pretty good margin. And then if you look at some of the other races back in 22, where all statewide constitutional officers won, Republicans won statewide elections, with the exception. of Herschel Walker when he was running for U.S. Senate. So it definitely is still a red state, and I think it's gotten redder as the Democrats has gotten further and further away from just middle-the-road politics. It just seemingly just gone so far left that it's a very different-looking Democratic Party than it was just 10 years ago here in the state of Georgia. So I do think that we'll have an opportunity. Look, I think those elections were just all those, it was a perfect storm with a couple of those things, how you ended up with Raphael Warnock and Jon Ossoff, and we're going to try to prevent that from happening this cycle. We've worked a lot on election integrity. We've worked a lot on grassroots efforts, and our state Republican Party has gotten a lot stronger and more organized than probably what we were four or five years ago. I'm assuming Lieutenant Governor and Buck, thanks for being here, that it will come up quite a bit in this election that Jon Ossoff back in March of last year joined Senate Democrats in blocking the Protection of Women and Girls in Sports Act. And when I was looking this up, I was like, what is his rationale for this? Or how does he? And he has people out there. His spokespersons are saying it's extremely intrusive for the federal government to confirm, or sorry, American parents don't need federal government confirming children's genitalia, end quote. That was what he said. This is crazy. This is like this is not rational stuff from this senator. No, no, not at all. And, you know, especially with one of the people he's running against actually passed the Riley Gaines Act at the federal level. Congressman Mike Collins, who's running for U.S. Senate, he passed the bill that has gotten so much fanfare here locally, and he's potentially awesome opponent, you know, in the November election. So, look, I can't make sense. There's a lot of things that the senator says. I don't need to try to get in his head because obviously he's just to make a statement like that is just preposterous. And so anyways, I just, you know, that's all the more reasons why we've got to have a strong gubernatorial nominee like myself, a strong Senate candidate where we can have a big coalition to make sure that we flip that seat back into the red column.

Well, thank you for the time. Lieutenant Governor, for anybody out there that wants to help in the campaign, what would you tell them to do? I would tell them to go to burtjones for ga.com, birdjones for ga.com. And, of course, you go to all our different platforms on social media, but you go to our website, and we'd love to have volunteers. I'd love to have any kind of engagement that you'd like to participate in. We'd love to have you. It's a very important race. Georgia is a very important state, and that was the reason why President Trump endorsed me for this governor's race very early on because he knows how important Georgia is, not just... Not just for our politics here locally, but on the national stage as well. No doubt. That's Bert Jay Jones running for governor in the state of Georgia. Going to be one of the top battlegrounds in 2026. Lieutenant Governor now, thank you, sir. Look, online identity theft crime, you have few defenses against. And if you're an unc like me, you've got a target on your back. Your best defense, online identity theft protection from life lock. They monitor hundreds of millions of data points every second for identity threats. And when they see evidence that your name and identity is being used without your permission. As a member, they'll notify you immediately. If you do become a victim of identity theft, you get your own restoration specialist at LifeLock who will fix identity theft guaranteed or your money back. Not only that, your protection backed by LifeLock's million dollar protection package. Join now, say 40% off your first year with my name Clay when you sign up online or over the phone, whichever is easiest. Call 1-800 LifeLock. You can also go online to Lifelock.com. Use promo code Clay for 40% off. That's Lifelock.com promo code C-L-A-Y for 40% off. You know them as conservative radio hosts. Now just get to know them as guys. On the Sunday Hang podcast with Clay and Buck. Find it in their podcast feed on the I-HartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. We insist on accountability on this program, accountability in government and accountability for ourselves as hosts and what we say. I bring this up because scurrilous accusation now being leveled about my changing opinion on Taylor Swift. Podcast listener Justin. wants to weigh in on he says he used to listen to me solo and i was singing a different tune so to speak this is this is talkback h hit it does everyone remember when buck had his own show and he had quite a bit of praise for taylor swift going so far as to call her t swift wow whoa wow whoa wow wow

Hold on a second. Hold on a second. What is the app? Do you go to the tape? I mean, we could probably find this stuff. You have to remember, solo show buck was a single man. And my... So you were willing to lie about your opinions of Taylor Swift to curry favor with single women? No, I was impressed with her talent, and I thought she was... somewhat good looking at the time now of course i'm a happily married man i don't even consider such things but at the time i was willing to say perhaps that she was hot and and that you know is as a single guy that's uh you know that's just the way things are at the time and and you know there and that i was impressed with also her many fans some of whom were women in my, you know, general age category. Who I did not wish to upset as a single man out on the scene at the time by trashing. So I didn't want the T-Swifters to left swipe on me just because I had said mean things about her music. So am I playing a little bit of both sides on this one? Yeah, but we're talking about single man versus married man. It's very, very different, very different. Maybe we need to get Tommy Laron on the show because she hopped in the mentions on Instagram, signed off on my Taylor Swift take, and said she's going to be bigger than the Beatles. Ali, let's get Tommy booked because she has great taste when it comes to arguments. And let's see, Elaine in Bell Air, Florida. Elaine, what you got for us? Hi. Hey, I am embarrassed to say I'm not real great up to speed on my social media. Clay, did you shave your beard? Beards off. Thank you. You know, yesterday, Buck, this is talking about unfortunate occurrences. So oftentimes I don't get a haircut as often as I should. As many people out there probably noticed. I'm not the best at making myself look the best. So I had time at the hotel to get a haircut. They have a hair salon in the hotel. So I stopped, got the haircut. And as I was getting the haircut, the woman giving me the haircut. said, what's the deal with your mustache? And I said, well, I lost a bet. I've got the mustache. And she just kind of nodded. She was cutting my hair. And she said, you know, I'm Russian. And I said, yeah, you can tell by the accent. She said, if you want that mustache gone. I can take it off for you right now, and you can just claim that your Russian hairdresser misunderstood when you asked me to trim it, and you thought that I was going to take it off. But I'll have you no, Buck, because I'm honest, because I'm forthright, because I don't tiptoe up and try to dodge bets. I told her, no, you can just trim it up, make it look better, and she said, okay, but again, I'm Russian, and I can just claim that I didn't understand you well, and you can use that as an excuse.

I feel like your Russian hairdresser could also get you a stinger missile if you needed it. You know what I mean? Sounds like she's old school. She was definitely, I wondered, I was like, is this a KGB after me? But she gave me a great haircut. So I think I'm in good shape. I like, by the way, you know, there's a certain boldness that Clay exhibits on this front where he will just walk around and he'll get his haircut anywhere. I mean, Clay, he'll go anywhere. Like, you know, he's in South Florida, where everyone here has, like, the fade and it's shaved along the sides, and then they did it to me once. Look, not good. Clay will go in anywhere. You know, he could be walking around Fairbanks, Alaska, and he's like, oh, look at that. Moose cuts. Let's go into Moose cuts. And it's true. I go in and they say, like, what do you want? And inevitably, I say, well, I just want, you know, a decent haircut. I trust you to make me look, you know, decent, whether it's super cuts, whether it's the hotel, whether it's Miami, like random barbershop as I'm walking along the street. And I think the end result here was positive. But did you try to cut your own hair during COVID? Did you ever try to cut your own hair? I lived in Tennessee. Nothing shut down. Oh, that's right. Damn it. In New York. We had. I cut my own hair. I live in Franklin, Tennessee. My gym was open by May of 2020. Like, they never, though, we basically didn't do COVID. He's just rubbing it in now. He's just, he's just rubbing it. We just didn't do it. My hair, I started to look like Tom Hanks and Castaway with the hair, but then the rest of me was just getting really fat instead of getting really skinny. So if you imagine Tom Hanks castaway, but if he was just eating delivery pad tie and like lots and lots of Reese's pieces, that was kind of my vibe during COVID. And doing TikTok dances by yourself in your apartment while claiming that you like Taylor Swift? It's all the single girls you were DM. Oh, I'm a big T. Swift man. I love this new album. It's very powerful. She did it. Look, I mean, she's got some. She speaks so well for our generation. This is like, this is a little bit like my Natalie Portman, which by the way, most people agree with me on. It's not that she's, I'm not saying she's ugly. I'm not a lunatic. I'm not blind, but she's just not that pretty. She's just not that pretty. Natalie, I mean, sorry, Taylor Swift. Yes, she has captured a generation, but I do not think she will be a multi-generational phenomenon the way that certain other musical acts, like, for example, the Beatles have been. That's just my take. And also her, you know, and now I'm married and she's married and she's married. No, she's not married it. She's about to get married, right? She'd get married to Travis Kelsey at the Super Bowl, which is where, not at the Super Bowl, but he's been in a Super Bowl a lot. I am leaving right now to go to San Francisco. You're going to close up shop. I've got to get to LAX and somehow fly on my Southwest flight up to San Francisco. Don't let anyone take that mustache away, right? I hope you just let me through security.

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You know, I just had a conversation yesterday, actually, with a Floridian who I was talking to him, and he does some house flipping and remodeling and stuff like that. And I said, why did you move down here? And he said, honestly, the breaking point was at my school, you know, my kid's school, rather. They started pushing the trans stuff. And he was in, I think, fifth or sixth grade or something. And he's like, I just had to, I had to just say enough is enough. And I moved down here to Florida where, of course, they don't do that stuff in the schools. Thank you, Ron DeSantis. But even like Megyn Kelly, Megyn Kelly pulled, and she's been very open about this, she's talked about it on her show, she pulled her son from a school that was like the rival school to the one I went to in New York. So kind of hit, get close to home because they were doing like the trans, you know, coming out day stuff for kids in primary school. Yeah. What's really crazy is how prevalent it became in places like New York City. And it was very much a geographical question. Like depending on where you were mattered for whether this kind of thing was going to hit your kids or not. My daughter, we moved when she was in the middle of sixth grade. We moved from New York to Florida. And she would have in New York, she had, I would say, close to a dozen friends who in some way. called themselves trans. Maybe they said they were non-binary, which was kind of the easier way out. Or they declared themselves the opposite gender from what they were. When she got to Florida, there were none, zero. She has not encountered this at all. And that really goes to show something. It was a nationwide social contagion, but it really only caught on in certain areas. You know, there was this. kind of jockey line about it at the time in like 2020, but it was like there's no trans kids in the hood. And that was the thing. It wasn't happening everywhere. It was happening in these far left enclaves that allowed this to happen. And then it was seeping into red areas also. But a lot of times parents in those areas were putting a stop to it. Carol, one thing that you also detail in your New York Post piece, and I think it's just so important that people know about this, and it goes to how disgraceful all this stuff was, and it is these procedures that they put sometimes kids through. And I actually think this stuff should be illegal for adults as well, because I think it's... These are not medical procedures. That's a whole other conversation. We're talking now about non-adults. We're talking about minors. And some of these procedures, even things like chest binding, which you get into here, can deform these young girls and give them a lifelong pain. Yeah. Yeah. And what was so crazy about, again, that era where we were all made to say that we would support this kind of insanity was that it really did grip so many different kinds of people. You know, when Bethany Mendel and I wrote our book, Stolen News, it was published in 2023, so we were writing it in like 21, 22.

When we were talking to conservative publishers, they were saying to us, we love the book, conservative publishers book, we love the book, but we need you to cut the trans chapter. And that was even in the conservative world, you weren't allowed to say that this was having serious, serious damage on these kids, that it wasn't a joke, that it was a real thing that was happening. that kids were having body parts cut off. And of course, the left goes through that thing that they do where it's not happening, but also if it is happening, it's a good thing. And that's where they are right now. They're in a situation where they've... pushed for this. They allowed this to go on. And now they have to say that it's a good thing that they've cut off the breasts of healthy teenage girls to help them pretend that they're boys. But we all know that it's not. And I think that this kind of court case, winning this kind of court case really goes a long way to showing who's on the right side. You know, I have in my forthcoming book, Carol, which I will say Carol has been a very important source of encouragement in my bookwriting process, manufacturing delusion. And there's a whole chapter on menticide, which is what a psychiatrist and an army psychiatrist in the Second World War, who actually dealt with a lot of SS Nazi prisoners. He was Dutch. He came up with his term of menticide, Mirlu, and it's the destruction of the brain. And one of the key things is to get people to affirm really obvious and grotesque lies. Like that's a central part of this. And this was obviously true in the Soviet Union as well. To me, there has been, and this is why I talk about the trans stuff in the chapter on menticide in the book, There has been a transgender agenda that is menticidal with respect to how they insist that people say the most insane things, or they will go crazy and sometimes even become very violent, as we know. Right. You have to say it, the words, and you have to say them in the right way, and you need to parrot the line that the left is feeding you, where you also have this in our book, because it's a sign of totalitarianism. It's what totalitarian societies do. They push one note, one voice that you must speak with. And when somebody doesn't, when the JK Rowlings of the world step out of line, they're shunned in such a really... nasty, horrible way that they're really taken out of their own society. It's a really terrible situation. And the fact is that we're getting to the point where we could see who was right and who was wrong. And that's really what we want to be hoping for here, that this kind of thing comes to an end, that children aren't mutilated anymore, that this kind of thing isn't pushed in our schools, that we come to believe that you cannot change your birth sex, that you can dress up as however you want, you can call yourself whatever you want.

But 10,000 years from now, when somebody digs up your bones, they're going to know what the DNA said. And that's going to be that you were either a boy or you were a girl, and that is the end of the story. And there's no compassion in lying to children that they could change that in any way. And having them try to change that has been a grotesque experiment, and I hope it ends. Well, I think that that's such a critical point. They have used. the idea of kindness. They have used the ideas of kindness and courtesy as a weapon against those of us who wanted to protect children. It's just use, just be nice. Use the pronouns they want. Just be nice. Encourage them in this belief. Just be nice. Give them the hormones. And now this is for the parents particularly, you know, take them to the doctor that'll give them the hormones that'll bind their chest and do these things. It's actual cruelty. They offer cruelty and call it kindness. And I think that is central to the whole trans experiment. Absolutely. And they tell the parents, if you don't do this, your kid will kill themselves. And that's really just one of the things that parents, you know, they'll do anything for their kids, right? And if they're told, like, would you rather have a live girl or a live daughter or a dead son, obviously every parent would want their child alive. But it's, it's, they kind of cornered parents into this where they had to accept a ridiculous reality that was never going to be. in order to say, oh, this is how your child survives. And they really put parents through the wringer. I'm glad that there's this lawsuit that happened, though, because I have been concerned all along, Carol, and this is going to speak right to you on this issue, that it would be a little bit like the aftermath of COVID when somehow no doctors, no hospitals, no health policy people, no one in the government. No one just lied. No one abused us for power. Nobody was responsible, even though we know. That's all a lie itself. In this case, because of the legal system we have and tort law, I do think people, individuals can be held responsible. I don't think they're just going to be able to do the, yeah, so what if we told you you needed a vaccine passport and that was insane and totally useless? Right. You're right. Usually people are not held accountable for terrible things that they do to society, but this is hopefully going to be the change in that. And again, this is so far beyond the pale, not that I didn't think that the COVID regulations and things that they did to us were also horrible. I did. But, you know, the cutting off of healthy body parts, I think is just something that we need to.

Again, the line in the sand that we have to say that this is just something that we cannot societally accept. And the fact that this is the very first win of a court case like this that went to trial, I hope the floodgates open after this, and I hope there are many, many more. Do you think that, have you ever talked to a parent that seemed otherwise? to be relatively like normal and with it who was a big believer in this trans ideology stuff in school? No, but what I was going to say is a lot of people think that parents who have kids who declare themselves trans are uniformly, you know, uniformly leftist, uniformly crazy. I knew a family in New York who had a child who said that they were the opposite gender and they had, I mean, they were this very normal family who you would never, they definitely weren't encouraging their kids to do anything crazy. They definitely weren't on board with any of this. But they literally had to move. They had to leave the state because their child's school was saying you have to affirm this for your child. This is elementary school. This is while my kids were in elementary school. And the fact that the school was pressuring them to affirm their child, there's so many normal families that get caught up in this. I think a lot of conservatives just think it's like blue-haired, nose ring families that this happens to. This happens in a lot of places and a lot of people are susceptible to it. You have to protect your kids. Who wants this stuff? Right. I know that we could throw out some things. We see these crazy activists, but it's fascinating to me that whenever you push on any individual politician on this, they start speaking around. They pull a Gavin Newsom. They start speaking around the issue. They speak in platitudes. Yeah. It's amazing. They've used so much power to force this on us. And yet no person who can be held accountable will actually stand forth and subject themselves to debate an argument on this subject. Yeah, I really do think it's a leftist destruction of the family. When you have your kids be broken down in this manner where they don't know what gender is anymore and they can't be sure that such a thing exists where there's only a boy and a girl and that's it, I think that it really does target the traditional family. And it's a larger picture, it targets. the country. It's an anti-American measure. It makes everybody a little crazy. And I know it sounds like, why would they do this or who would do this? But look at the activists on the streets right now. Their cause of the day doesn't matter. Every cause is basically the same people out in the streets. And the point is to bring down the country. And I know that that sounds lofty and like why, you know, that that can't be what they're really thinking. But all of these steps, all of these breakdown of institutions of familial. binds, all of this is the same thing. It takes its roots in places like communist Russia where, you know, I'm from, where they did the exact same thing, where your family is not your family. You're not supposed to matter to you more than the random person on the street and the country comes above all and you're not allowed to have religion and all of this. It's all one leftist push to change the way our country is and we can't let them have it.

Totally agree with you. Great piece of the New York Post. Guys, go check out Carol's show. Thank you. She does a great job. Carol Markowitz show and also normally, which she does with Mary Catherine Hand. Carol, my friend, talk to you soon. Talk to you soon. Energy is critical. Energy is essential. And you need to have the right underlying chemistry in your body. If you're going to get the most out of your day, you're going to stay focused. You're going to have drive. Gentlemen, I've been on a health journey, and I started to get really run down, got too chubby, got too slow. I've turned things around. I'm still working. Don't think that I feel like I've accomplished the mission. I'm like halfway through. But proper supplementation has been critical, and I get my supplements from chalk. C-H-O-Q. In fact, the chalk male vitality stack, which I take is a multi-supplement bundle designed to support men's vitality, energy, and healthy testosterone levels. The CEO of Chalk's a personal friend of mine and Clay's based in Texas, all-American guy. He cares so much about what goes into these products because he is truly passionate about this. He wants to help all of you guys and gals out there. They have a female stack too, but I can tell you, he takes all the stuff himself. He is a true believer in these products from chalk, and so am I. Go check them out. Go to chalk.com, C-H-O-Q-com. Subscribe with my name, Buck, as your promo code, and chalk will pack a free $99 bag of chalk lit powder with your first delivery. That's chalk, C-H-O-Q.com, and use my name Buck as your promo code. Keep up with the biggest political comeback in world history on the Team 47 podcast. Clay and Buck highlight Trump replays from the week. Sundays at noon Eastern. Find it on the IHeart Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts. We are closing up shop today on Clay and Buck. Great time to remind you all. Please subscribe to Clay and Buck Podcast Network. You're like, Buck, how do I do it? The iHeart app. All of you should have the iHeart app on your smartphone. It's a great app, truly. I use it every day, and it makes it so easy to listen to your favorite stations anywhere in the country just digitally. And it's great stuff. You can also subscribe to Klanbuck Podcast Network there, which I recommend you do. And then you can listen to all of our shows, including Carol Markowitz, for example. But let's get to... This is Talkback. I, Pam, from Anchorage, Alaska. Let's hear it. Clay, I want this on the record. Officially, I called this out months ago. Buck's shape-shifting opinion about Taylor Swift, don't ever doubt. Us OG listeners to Buck Sexton, the Shields High crowd, we will give you the scoop. And if you go into Moose Cuts, Tom, Pam, Sensha, since seemingly I am the only listener in Alaska. Yeah, I know. We got a lot of Alaska listeners, actually. But I'm getting called out by OG Original Saturday Squad here. Go back way with... Guys, I told you, single Buck, a little more open to Taylor Swift than married Buck. And, you know, I think we can all understand. All right, it's a different world I'm living in now. That's all I can say. That's the only defense I can offer up here. But a lot of you calling in to say that I used to be a big T. Swift fan. I was a medium T. I was a medium T.

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