Weekly Review With Clay and Buck H3 - Border Czar, Tom Homan

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Appreciate it very much. Let's start with where you are on the DHS funding situation here. I mean, I'm sure you want TSA funded, but I haven't checked in on New Orleans Airport, whether it's been affected at all. That would obviously be a big deal in your home state that you represent. But it looks like there might be a turning of the tide here. You now have ICE helping out, possibly even National Guard helping out. Do you think this changes the calculation for Democrats, or is this just going to continue on this brinksmanship where the American people who are trying to travel end up suffering? I think Chuck Schumer thinks he's got a winning issue, and he's going to ride that horse. And I am, you know, I'm a doctor, excuse the term, but I am urinated off. I mean, we got people waiting five hours to get through a line. We got TSA agents trying to pay their bills and have them been paid for six weeks. And most, I mean, I think all the demands that the Democrats had have been met, okay, then they pull back and say, we want more. It's like the Iranians with the straight of our moves. They think they've got a winning issue. They're going to continue to hold it hostage until they extract as much as they can. And they don't care the cost to the American traveler. And they don't care the cost to the person who works for TSA or FEMA or Coast Guard. It is just, man, you just deserve to be angry, brother. In your state, New Orleans, it has been among the worst of all airports that we've seen. Not far from you, Houston has also been bad. What are you hearing at the New Orleans airport for people out there that are maybe traveling to or from? It's a big tourist destination at spring break. What are you hearing from people at New Orleans about what they're able to do? What would you say to people that are going to be or thinking about traveling through New Orleans in the near future? So first, the woman I spoke to who was going to come meet me, after three hours standing in line, which stretched out into the parking garage, she missed her flight and said, I'm sorry, I can't come see you. I talked to the airport administrator. Sunday and Monday are the busiest travel days. Usually by mid-morning, things are kind of clearing up. And so if you're traveling out of Louis Armstrong Airport. Now, try and get a later flight in the afternoon. If you're in the morning, go very early, particularly if you're on Sunday and Monday. But, you know, the very fact that we're having this conversation, and Democrats agreed to a deal months ago, and then they then pulled back, and then they agreed again, and then they pulled back. They don't want a deal. They want an issue. and the issue that they want continues to evolve, which makes me think what they really want is a political selling point, that somehow that they're the savior, even though they're the ones screwing it up. Hey, guys, just really frustrating. When do you think this gets resolved? I mean, there seem to be a little bit of optimism. But again, as we've mentioned, this has happening all over the country. We're hearing about it a lot. If you had to guess, I mean, it is a political issue now. Democrats have decided to make it one. You may have heard we had the ICE suggestion help to emerge from this program from one of our callers. Where is this going and how do we fix it?

Well, the president's going to try and, you know, for those positions that an ICE or a National Guard could help with, the fellow that stands at the, or sits at the exit so they make sure you don't double back in, clearly, you know, one of the three of us could do that, right? I mean, that's just like, sorry, you can't do that. And so that won't require training. There's some other things that, you know, the person sitting at the... at the x-ray machine, that person, she requires a lot of training. And so some things they can do and some things they can't. I think I was told at one point New Orleans airport had an 83% sick-in rate. And then somebody else told me 43%. Either way, that's a lot of people to replace. And a lot of those are going to require at least some training. So I like the president trying to get out there, get ahead of it. I think we should. We're still going to have some problems. Can you just remind everybody, Senator, that what it is that the Democrats actually want? Like, what are the concessions that they are demanding? It seems to me like they essentially want to be able to call the shots with an executive law enforcement branch or the law enforcement function of an executive branch agency. And they're just using this issue. It's like they're taking travelers hostage. or at least their time hostage, until they can get what they want. Yeah, it really is remarkable. They don't want funding for ICE, and they don't want any money to, like, transport somebody here illegally back to their home country. Now, in the Working Families Tax Cuds Bill, we actually Republicans anticipated they might do this in the future. And so we increased the funding back then for ICE to an amount sufficient to pay for ICE operations, even if Democrats pull this trick. So we can actually, you know, navigate that. That's, you know, that we thought ahead, so we can navigate that. But they also want the, they also want the ICE agents not to have wear a mask. Now, the problem with that is if you get a facial image, you can dox the person. And then, as somebody points out, they've got their street brigades who will then go out and terrorize the person, his family, her children, they will follow them to their home. We know that because in Portland, that's what the kind of radical left street brigade did to federal agents in Portland and harassed the heck out of the family. So the mask are protecting the families of the agents. Tom Homan said, listen, we can put numbers on their outfits. If you want to know who's responsible for an action, you'll put a number up there, 1, 2, 3, 4, and it'll be number 1, 2, 3, 4, and we can trace that number back if someone behaves inappropriately. So I think what they really want in that case is to intimidate the officer in their family. They also want body cams. The administration, the White House has said, we'll give you body cams. We'll increase the money going for body cams. We want to be able to keep the film. We'll keep the film. So the demands are being met, except for the demands which would put the safety of the families at risk.

And those are the ones they're dug in on, which kind of like you really want the families at risk, but that's what they want. We're talking to Senator Bill Cassidy of... Louisiana, you are working on a bill that is trying to get overall the insider trading shutdown. This is something that is overwhelmingly popular with our audience. We hear about it all the time. Certainly Nancy Pelosi has had the greatest success of anybody this side of Warren Buffett. What is the likelihood of a bill getting passed? What are you trying to do? Yeah, we're trying to restore faith in Congress. Full disclosure, I'm running for re-election. One of my opponents, Congresswoman Letlow, has done extremely well in the stock market, including trading on stocks in which the companies have appeared before a subcommittee upon which she serves. But this should be about restoring the faith in the American people that Congress is not a place you come to do well financially. It's a place you come to do good. for the nation and for your state and for your constituents. And it should be a place you come to do good. So the fact that Nancy Pelosi and her stock trading has become a punchline tells you the problem. That should not be a punchline that people in Congress are using inside information or their families are. Someone said, well, it's her husband. Okay, right. They never talk. They never have pillow dog. So I think this is just about making, helping the American people, if you will, restore the faith that you come here to do good for the American people and not to do well for yourself. Senator, what are your thoughts on where the war with Iran stands right now? I know there's ongoing negotiation. The president is saying militarily this has been an incredible display of our capabilities and has been very effective at degrading Iranian capabilities. Strait of Hormuz is it open? Is it going to open soon? That's a big question people have. Gas prices, obviously some concern there. Where do you come down on all of this? Clearly, the Iranians sending a ballistic missile 2,500 miles towards our naval base, Diego Garcia, shows us that they were developing ballistic missiles. They just declared it. They said they weren't, and they obviously were. Next, they obviously were trying to get enriched uranium, and despite their denials, everyone knows they were doing it for a nuclear weapon. So you put the two together. They were trying to develop a nuclear weapon, and they now have ballistic missiles that could go all throughout Europe and all throughout where many of our bases are. So the president's decision to go after them...

will be judged on a success. But the motivation behind it, to keep them from developing nuclear weaponries and to keep them from being able to deliver it, that seems to have been, hmm, I see their point. It seems like that's the case after all. In terms of the Strait of Hormuz, our allies like the Europeans and the Saudi Arabians, it's going to be tough on them if Iran ends up controlling the Strait of Hormuz. And I have to think that the president, his administration, are going to make sure that that doesn't happen. We're talking to Senator Bill Cassidy. Okay, chaos when it comes to college athletics. I know that you have a bill that you are working on there. A lot of people all over the country, particularly in your state of Louisiana, where Lane Kiffin is now the LSU football coach are very focused on NIL, maybe. Might be a new basketball coach headed that way, too. What say you? What's the goal? First, I know that Clay loves Lane Kiffin. I'm sure Clay just like has a poster of Lane in his bedroom. I don't know that far.

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In America, as an on U.S. soil, I think the court's going to come down in 6.3 and say, no. Actually, in America means in America. And we have now from DHS, Tom Homan, with us. Tom, thanks for making the time. I don't know if you heard my preamble there for a second. But can you just explain to people real quick, this physically present in the United States for asylum seekers? What is this metering policy? How'd this get going? I'm sorry. I just got on. My flight was late. I just got into a room here. I didn't hear that, Clay. I'm sorry. Oh, no, that's Buck. It's okay. So there's a, there's a under the immigrate anyway. You know what? Just tell me this. Let's actually jump into the airport thing because that's what everybody cares about. I was trying to do an elegant radio turn there. But instead, let's just get to what everyone cares about, which is ice in the airports. How's this going? What are the next steps? What are you seeing? Bruce, it's Buck's, I'm glad I'm talking. I didn't know what now and talk to. I got, I got more jobs at Marco Rubio. Hey, look, bottom line is, what's happening in the airports is, was Trump's, President Trump's ID who called me up in less than 24 hours. But the Flanagan, I think is a brilliant idea. But look, you know, that ICE is being paid. President Trump asks us to get to the airport to help. Because a lot of TSA workers are calling in or they're just playing quitting. So we're going to do two things. Number one, we're going to show up the security of that airport and keep the airway safe. And we're going to support TSA. So jobs that don't require like the X-ray training, other security jobs, whether there's check and identification, whether it's no luggage, whether it's, you know, providing security around the checkpoints, whether it's, you know, whatever TSA needs us to do to move those lines quicker and to keep security at the highest level. That's what we're doing. But I want to add more thing and see a lot of stories about ICE immigration enforcement airports. No, you're damn right. Our purpose does help TSA provide security and get people to the checkpoints. However, these HSI officers and the arrow officers, they see illegal activity. They're going to absolutely take action. So yeah, we're doing a little bit of everything right now. Do you expect that this is Clay, thanks for coming on. You were just talking with Buck. I know how busy you are. Do you expect you just said you're damn right? Yeah, you just said you're damn right. Do you expect that TSA will be able to help you with ICE arrest people? And you tell me if I'm wrong here, but what I think about is people are showing up with IDs. We know exactly who they are. It seems like it could potentially be a very easy place to figure out if you're arresting the right guys or gals. Oh, you want to talk about target enforcement officers? Absolutely. Because everybody's got a show 90 came through. And we can, you know, every special agent year officer has a cell phone with the capability of access on our databases. So yeah, you know, this work, we're going to force immigration. When we see it look like you take, but we get a lead or target lead, you know, from TSA saying we've got information on this one or that one. Yeah, we're going to do, we're going to do our job. We're going to do, you know, open a criminal investigation.

Whether, you know, we've got reasonable suspicion to question someday or probable calls to ransom, but that's exactly what we're going to do. We're going to work with our brothers and sisters and TSA to keep the airport safe. And, you know, and if someone's transversion to the airport, they're not in the country where we can we find out about it, and we have reasonable suspicion. You know, we're going to take an enforcement action. We're absolutely going to do that. We're talking to Tom Homan. I don't know if you saw, but Philadelphia's district attorney, I believe his last name is Krasner. said threatened to arrest ICE agents at the airport. What's your reaction when you hear Soros-funded DAs making comments like that? That's ridiculous. And, you know, bottom of mind is federal law is Trump's local state law. So, you know, we're reforming our duties as enacted by Congress. We're not making this up. We are enforcing immigrants. Well, we're going to do it all the policy. I've been up on the hill negotiating, trying to get this government back open. And they basically, they said they don't really want to abolish ICE. They want to just reform. I know, they just want to shut it down. They want to take tools away from ICE. I'm not going to do that. They've been hamstrung for four years under Joe Biden. Now they're finally doing their duty. They're upholding the oath they took. They're enforcing laws that Congress wrote and was signed by president. And that's exactly what we're going to do. So, you know, I'm frustrated. They obviously see some sort of benefit on not funding the Department of Homeland Security, right? We're in an elevated threat posture right now. And we got people from, you know, cybersecurity that aren't working. We got people, you know, the Coast Guard ain't being paid. We got people with. No, TSA not being paid. FEMA not being paid. These people are putting this country at great risk during an elevated threat policy. It's just unbelievable that they're not willing to come to the table and meet with us. I've met with them. They talk about reform and immigration, but I've been explaining to them the policies of enforcement has not changed in 30 years. We had the same policies under Obama, under Clinton, under Bush 1 and Bush 2. So it's not a policy issue. It's an execution issue. And we fix that. You know, there was some problems in Minneapolis. And I went up there and President Trump asked me go up there and address it. We addressed a few issues, but most of men and women, 99% are doing the right thing and we're on the right mission. But I'm not going to sit there and negotiate, taking authorities or away from ICE to enforce the law. It's just, it's ridiculous. I'm tired of it. We're speaking to Tom Homan, borders are for this Trump White House. And Tom, can you speak to where are we in terms of illegal removals, deportations, one year and change into this administration? And what are expectations? What is on the horizon for deportations going forward? Is there a plan? to ramp up. So basically, how far have we come to this point and where are we going over the next year? Well, you know, last year we got about, you know, over 700,000 removals between the patrol and us.

The closest year to that was under Obama administration in 2012. When I was in ERO, we were removed $409,000. So we blew that out of water. And, you know, I actually got a presidential rank award for that. You know, how did Democrats have changed? I got an award in 2012 for $409,000 removals and, you know, highest reward available. Now all of a sudden, I can't, I'm not allowed to deport anybody. But, you know, if we have the 700,000, we're already making records, but we just brought 10,000 more. Well, not quite, we got, you know, almost that 10,000. But we're hiring 10,000 more enforcement officers, which is going to just increase those men and women on street. The sanctuary cities and all this, all this crap going on, yes, it's less efficient. We have to work harder. We have to work smarter because they won't give us access to the jails. But, you know, like with Minnesota, you know. It was terrible up there, but, you know, I went up there and I sat down to the governor, sat down to the A.G. I sat down to the mayor. And I explained to him. You don't want, you don't want all 3,000 people in your street? Then let me in the damn jail. Because one agent can arrest one bad guy in jail, but when you release them, I got to send a whole few jobs team to find him. And because of all the hate and, and, and, and, uh, the threats up there. Then we got to send a security team to back up the arrest team. So you got a dozen guys out there that could have done the job with one person in the jail. And we got. unprecedented cooperation in the county jails throughout the state. We, you know, we got state prison system working with us. It made sense. It made sense because less people are needed to do the job. But, you know, in these sanctuary cities, that's what it is. Back in a day when I was an agent, we had access to all the jails. One agent can arrest one bad guy, but they released them. Now we got to send six or seven people for all the state to reason to find them. Find someone doesn't want to be arrested, which is, of course, much dangerous for the community, danger for the area. More dangers for the alien, could anything happen in the street. The rest of the much dangers for the agents. But with 10,000 more agents, we'll beat last year's number. But, you know, things like, now we've got agents at the airport now. And rather than on the street, you know, the priority right now is get the airport secure, move those lines through and help our brothers and sisters in TSA. But as soon as this shutdown ends, and I think it's going to come out to reconciliation because this negotiation is going nowhere. I mean, we give a little bit. They take away a bunch. It's just ridiculous. So when we get the government back open, then I can get out there and get back to the main mission. But I want to be clear, we're going to leave a contingent at the airport because we got human trafficking in through the airport. We got currency smuggling through the airport. We've always had a small footprint there. But what we're seeing now, we may have a bigger contingent there to enforce immigration law there to them. We're talking to Borders Art Tom Homan. You told us before that you thought there were 20 million illegals in the country after Biden opened the border and let everybody in. You just talked about, I think the number was 700,000. How many people do you think are voluntarily leaving? You know, people out there who see what's going on and just say, hey, maybe this is not the place for me. I know there's been numbers out there, but what kind of sense do you have about voluntary departures? Well, according to DHS data, it's over $2 million at first year under Trump, over $2,000, either through the Home App, CPP Home App, or just leaving. CBP tracks a lot of people when they, you know, they land in foreign airports. But we don't really know who goes south to the border travel south. But DHS and through some independent studies said about $2 million.

I think the more and more, and let me tell you something about ICE operation, about the secure border, right? We have the most secure border ever. We got to give a lot of credit to what's happening, what ICE is doing in the streets right now, because we send a clear message. There's no longer a free ride. If you're in this country legally, we're looking for you. When the whole world sees ICE out there doing massive operations, that sends a strong message. Don't give you life savings to the cartel. Because you're not going to be released from the border like the Biden administration did. If you happen to get by the border patrol, we're looking for it. No more free ride. So I think because what ICE is doing nationwide is a big factor in why we had the most secured border in the history of this nation. Tom Homan, borders are. We know how busy you are. We appreciate you. Anything else you would put out there? Yeah. Just want to say something real quick. Tom, thank you for what you're doing, you know, and thank you for representing the men and women of ICE and DHS so well. With all the nonsense the Democrats have been trying, I just was watching some TV show last night, totally maligning ICE. You're a true professional. You're serving your country. And, you know, thanks from me, from Clay and from the whole audience. We really appreciate you and all the men and women of ICE who are doing their job under the Constitution of this country. And let me add one thing that I appreciate those words. Thank you. But you know what, God bless the men, women of ice and boards. I was a board of slates. I know what they're dealing with. I was an ice agent for a long time. I know what they're dealing with. I wish these members of Congress rather than vilifying the men and win of ice and calling them, no Nazis and the secret police, which just increases the threats against them, increases the violence against them. You know what? Grow a set. Put a badge on your chest. Put a gun on your hip and come out with us. See what they're dealing with and see what you have caused from the constant negative rhetoric and comparing them to the Nazis, which increases a threat against them, which increases the doxing against them, which has increased assaults over 1,400%. So rather than sitting there call us names, strap a gun to your hip, put a Kevlar vest on, and come do what we do and see if you can stand on the line. I guarantee you none of them can. absolutely god bless tom to you and all those that you're uh you're representing out there thank you so much clyte Yeah, thank you to Borders R. Tom Homan. Look, homeowners, certain parts of your house don't do well with delayed maintenance. One of those, the roof. When your roof needs repair, you're on a time clock. Get ahead of it with a free roof inspection. Use this time of year to have an expert inspect your roof, especially if you've never had it done before. Start with Erie Home, a well-established 50-year-old company specializing and making sure your roof is in excellent shape. Take advantage of their offer.

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