Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Apr 29 2026

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Game respects game. You know what I mean? Thank you. Appreciate that one. You know what it's really from, though? I'm going to tell you, you know how I learned to do the Charles III impersonation, Clay? watching The Crown, because they really, the guy who, he's a great actor. I'm actually forgetting his name because I don't, but he was in. Way better looking than Charles. I hope if I ever have anybody playing me in any sort of, you know, movie that the person is way better looking to because the guy who plays Prince Charles actually really, really good looking, but also a great actor. Dominic something or other is his name. Great actor. He was McNulty in the Wire, for those of you who are Wire fans, and he's amazing. He's a British actor. Little side note here, guys. Because, you know, we do pop culture here, too. In The Wire, really, I think the two standouts, there's a lot of great performance. You've, okay, yeah, it's like your favorite show, right? I mean, you've seen all five seasons. I've seen all five seasons. My older brother's favorite show of all time. It's a top five show for me. And if you've ever spent any real time in some of the rougher parts of Baltimore, which is unfortunately most of Baltimore. very accurate, it feels very realistic. It was shot there. But the two best actors in the series, in my opinion, are Dominic West, that's his name, who plays Charles III in the Crown as well, in one season of the Crown when he's kind of like in his 40s, 50s, because they change with the ages. And actually, who is the guy who is going to be? uh... he's in luther he was people talking to him as a possible james bond he's a black british actor and leud edreselva The two best guys in the wire, which is a cops and, you know, cops and drug dealer show in Baltimore are British, which is pretty mind-blowing. When you actually think about it, Edress Elba's, like, you know, sort of street-slinging drugs guy is incredible in the, a stringer bell is his name. Capital Capital seems to produce far more incredible actors and actresses than you would anticipate. By the way, same thing is true on Broadway. The amount of... way outperforms with actors and with rock bands. When you start to think back, so there are a lot of Americans who don't eat, I know people who are like, I love Eric Clapton. You're like, you know, he's British, right? Like he's got an English accent. And they're like, no. Yeah. You know, like a lot of these people that we just think of as great rock, obviously there's the Beatles and there's the Rolling Stones. And, and there's, I mean, I said Eric Clapton. I think The Clash. I mean, you go to a lot of the punk rock bands. Punk rock really, I think, kind of started in the UK or certainly was very early. You two. Look at you, 90s guy. Oasis at U. Oasis was great. Maybe. Yeah, yeah. Champ Rock was Supernova. That was a great album. That was everywhere when I was going to parties and stuff in the 90s was that Oasis album. That was really huge. Okay. So, you know, we got to keep you guys up to date with all the cool.

Pop culture. Aaron in Salt Lake City, though. Aaron wants to take issue. Aaron, are you unhappy with all the talk of the king's visit to America? Played D. Are you kidding me? The top story of the day is the freaking king of England. Who cares? The top story of the day is absolutely the SCOTUS ruling today and how that might affect the midterms. The king of England. Come on, guys. Well, I'm sorry, sir. I shall blame my footman for the misapprehensions. Clay, would you please tell everybody about this Supreme Court case of Louisiana v. Calais? I'm going to dive into this at the top of next hour. So for everybody out there that is super fired up, Supreme Court 100-page decision, 6-3. Basically, racial gerrymandering is unconstitutional. And I already have talked, Buck, with some of the members of the Tennessee state legislature that are in the process right now of determining whether they can redraw the districts before we get to the primary in August in my home state of Tennessee because they believe there is a racially gerrymandered district in Memphis that, may be able to be redrawn. Now here, and again, I'm going to dive into the weeds on this because I still do want to play the Trump because I thought Trump was actually very eloquent in what he said as well. We were playing some of the Prince Charles. I was actually killing, killing time with our Oasis talk so that our team can upload those clips for us. So there we go. Yes. So we're going to play those in a moment. But I do think, for instance, the math that's going to become challenging is. In my home state of Tennessee, we have eight Republican red districts and one blue district in Memphis. Is it possible to do 9-0 or not from a pure mathematical, geographical perspective? I think they're going to try to figure out whether that is doable or not. Okay, let me play because I think Trump deserves credit. He was particularly good talking about this. And I believe we have two different parts. Trump talking about the legacy of England and how it led to the country here and how we leaned on and learned from the legal history and the governmental background of England. Cut 31. Here in the shadows of monuments to George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, honoring the British king might seem. an ironic beginning to our celebration of 250 years of American independence. But in fact, no tribute could be more appropriate. Long before Americans had a nation or a constitution, we first had a culture, a character. and decreed, before we ever proclaimed our independence, Americans carried within us the rarest of gifts, moral courage, and it came from a small but mighty kingdom from across the sea. For nearly two centuries before the revolution, this land was settled and forged by men, women, who bore in their souls the blood and noble spirit of the British here on a wild and untamed continent.

They set loose the ancient English love of liberty and the great Britain's distinctive sense of glory, destiny, and pride. And that's what it is. Glory, destiny, and pride. That was one good take. Very well said. I mean, beautiful even. And here was one more part of Trump yesterday talking about England and a long-term binding relationship between the two. The American patriots who pledged their lives to independence in 1776 were the heirs to this majestic inheritance. Their veins ran with Anglo-Saxon courage, their hearts beat with an English faith in standing firm for what is right, good, and true. In recent years, we've often heard and said that America is merely an idea. But the cause of freedom did not simply appear as an intellectual invention of 1776. The American founding was the culmination of hundreds of years of thought, struggle, sweat, blood, and sacrifice on both sides of the Atlantic. Fate drew a long arc from the meadow at Runnymede to the streets of Philadelphia that ran through the lives of people born and bred. on the British code that no man should be denied either justice or right. American patriots today can sing, my country, tis of the sweet land of liberty, only because our colonial ancestors first saying, God save the king. I mean, it's really good. And again, some of you are going to say, okay, why does this matter? I really see this buck as a direct refutation of what we have been told for much of the past 50, 60 years, which is that everyone involved in Western civilization was a rapist and they pillaged the world and they brought forth only pestilence. And actually colonialism made everybody better by and large in the grand scheme of things in that. To your point, I think it's such a good one. When we arrived in Australia, meaning Western civilization arrived in Australia, they hadn't even discovered the wheel yet. I mean, we're talking about people living in North America, too. True in North America. Yeah, people are like, oh, but the Plains Indians on their horseback so majestic. They got the horses from us, guys. They didn't have animals that were raised, you know, husbandry or whatever you call it. They didn't have domesticated animals. That's why, honestly, that's why the viruses spread so quickly here in the new world in North America because most viruses started because of cohabitation with animals. It's crowd diseases. It's close proximity is the thing that is. This is something else that you learn when you really study military history. The great weapon of all ages throughout all conflict has been when a disease breaks out in the enemy camp or in your camp. Yes. Going all the way back to ancient Greece, ancient Rome, you name it. And that was actually really on a percentage basis, Clay, most people, remember we talked to the Civil War. Oh, yeah. Two out of three casualties were people dying not in combat, dying mostly from disease.

Yeah, if you guys remember, I think in terms of pop culture, gone with the wind, the very first time that Scarlett gets married, she marries a guy she's in love with Rhett Butler, and she marries another guy, and he goes off the war and dies in camp before the war even starts. He gets virus, right? And the reason Southerners in particular in the Civil War had such an issue was it was more of a rural community. as opposed to New York, where people tended, for instance, to have been in close proximity and had gotten viruses. But they hadn't really done it. Just think about that, though. You're signing up. You're like, you know, I'm going to go fight, you know, for my state or my country or whatever it is. And if you're going to die, there's a two out of three chance. It's not going to be a musket ball, a cannonball, or a saber that does you win. It's going to be dysentery. It's going to be typhus. That's been true for as long as there have been massed armies in the field. Now, in the ancient context, because it was seasonal warfare, it was much more of an issue during siege, during siege warfare. That's because people would have to camp, right? And you're inside the siege wall. They're outside. But disease was always the great enemy of these things. It's killed far more people. You know, it's like the most dangerous animal in all human history is actually the mosquito. Yes. I mean, that's a great. There you go. You've got your bar trivia win. What animal, I guess, insect if you're defining broadly. Were we talking about the Supreme Court before what happened? We're weaving today on the Clay and Buck Show. We've got a lot of depth of knowledge. I'm going to run you through in detail, the Supreme Court ruling top of the next hour, why I think it's significant. Also, we're going to talk about a little bit more the James Comey indictment because everybody, it is kind of amazing how fast news moves in Trump era. Because there were days where nothing happened with Biden, right? I mean, legitimately days where you could look around and we could have taped to the show two days before and there wouldn't have been much change in news. We got Pete Hegseth testifying live right now about the war in Iran. We've got the Supreme Court decision coming down. The state visit from England. Somebody tried to kill Trump on Saturday. I mean, just think about how crazy that is. Somebody tried to kill Trump on Saturday. It's Wednesday. And almost nobody is even discussing the fact that we had an assassination attempt, guns fired. And there is an assassin right now, third assassin in custody. That's wild. That's Trump's speed. And let's take some calls. 800, 282-282. You can even ask Charles III a question if you like. I can't wait for that. Did you know you can buy trees for your yard online? Healthy trees, fresh from the nursery, purchased online, delivered to your home. I'm sitting in my property here in the Nashville area, and I am looking out at a bunch of brand new trees that we have put in along our property. If you don't have land, let's say you live in a condo or you live in a apartment or you live in a townhome and you don't have physical property that you are sitting in right now, they still got tons of plants and that can make a huge difference. Lots of roses, great gift for mom as we come up on Mother's Day. Every plant is backed by an alive and thrive guarantee. That's how well they've nurtured your new trees and plants.

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I actually think the one that is going to be the most consequential that has happened today is the Supreme Court decision that came down earlier this morning. We've been talking about this one for a while. Six to three decision. Effectively, the Supreme Court has stricken down racially gerrymandered districts, which are primarily in the South. In a Samuel Alito opinion, As we predicted, I believe it was last week with Molly Hemingway, writing for the majority. He essentially says what is indisputably true that... Putting a congressional district together because of race is an unconstitutional gerrymander. Now, this is primarily but going to impact the South because there is a large black population in many southern states and as a legacy of the civil rights era. that Voting Rights Act had been previously considered to be constitutional to take race into account. Sixty years later, now they are saying that it is manifestly not the case that you can draw a racially gerrymandered district. Of course, Buck, this relies upon the fact that black voters overwhelmingly vote Democrat. So race is, in this case, a proxy for Democrat political support that is changing somewhat, but not super rapidly. And so the results based on the maps that I have all seen show that if... Republican red states take this Supreme Court decision and run with it. It originated in Louisiana. Louisiana versus Calais was the lawsuit when they tried to draw a second racially gerrymandered district in Louisiana. The plaintiff sued and said this is not permitted. And so, Buck, the numbers that I have seen suggest that Republicans could add 12 seats simply by removing racially gerrymandered districts, including potentially, as we just read in my home state of Tennessee, where the woman that I believe is going to be the next governor, current senator, Marsha Blackburn, has already spoken out and said, do away with the Memphis district. Let's make Tennessee 100% red. It also comes on the heels of Florida planning a redistricting. I believe, am I correct, that Ron DeSantis, governor of Florida, scheduled to join us tomorrow on the program to talk about his proposed map, which would go to, I believe I'm correct on this, 24 Republican districts, four Democrat districts, and add four Republican districts to largely cancel out what Virginia did. But this buck is a...

a tidal wave of potential impact when you consider that effectively we live in a 50-50 house world 12 districts that could become reliably Republican would be transformative potentially in the overall House races not just in 26 but in 28 and then we get the census and 30 and it becomes even more of a red world that we are living in. Your thoughts when you saw this come down, that's the big background, and I can dive into the legal intricacies if we want to, but that's, I'd say, big picture idea of what happened. I thought that was jolly good. No, I'm just kidding. Sorry, I'll stop. No, I think that you laid it out very, very well. I think that a couple of things. I have a... 30,000 foot view of this and a 100,000, well, would that be like, probably the outer space, right? How, when does it turn in? When does the atmosphere? I don't know. We've got to look that up. But 30,000 feet, definitely you're in a plane. Planes go up to, I think, 50,000 feet sometimes, right? And then beyond that, the air is too thin for normal flight. Here's my thing. First level of this is, uh, I think red states and blue state, the consolidation by political affiliation in this country is going to become even more extreme. Because you're going to have people now who feel like if they, like maybe some people don't care about political representation and so they'll just sort of stick it out. But if you're living in, I mean, if you're living in Virginia. and you are going to have not only a, you're going to have a effectively entirely blue state, you know, or rather a congressional map, that's something that people might find very frustrating. You're going to be represented by a blue member of Congress and you have really no choice in that matter. So that's one part of this is that I think this is just ideologically you're going to see more sorting by. by party color. And as you know, I still am very annoyed. They should be the reds and we should be the blue, but because of TV, this is the way it goes for now. And then the other thing I think of, Clay, is we just, the people need to start thinking more of things like the Voting Rights Act as an emergency and temporary measure. that is unworkable over the long time, over the long term, rather, because it inherently violates the most fundamental principles of the Constitution, of the founding, of our republic. And that is that there can be any distinctions made in law by race, by skin color, whatsoever. That is always a problem. It is always going to lead to discrimination, to legalized racism. And you note this even in a place like South Africa. People have seen this now. Yes, there was an insidious regime of anti-black discrimination under apartheid that existed. Now you have anti-white apartheid, essentially. You have anti-white discrimination going on in that country. That's also bad.

And now, I'm not saying we're in a South Africa situation, but I am saying that whether it's affirmative action in college admissions, whether it's congressional districts by race, everything by race must go. We must have the application of the Equal Protection Clause, the Constitution, and I understand that some of these are amendments to the Constitution. They need to go to. this stuff needs to be, you know, the ones that classify people by race. Because it's inherently unworkable, too. You start to think about this. Okay, so what qualifies and what does it and who self-identifies and what is the government figure on this and everything? It's a mess. The whole thing's a mess. So that's my, in the sort of higher atmosphere view of it. But in the meantime, yeah, this is about power. This is all this really because this is about power. Democrats are using the history of racial discrimination to try to advantage them so that they can tell you what you can do today in this country with Democrat control in the House. That's what this is. Florida's House just passed 83 to 28 overwhelmingly the new map that Ron DeSantis has put forward that would add for Republican seats. And also it is now headed to the Senate. So this thing is moving in an expeditious fashion in Florida. Tennessee, I think, is going to have a special election season to redraw maps. Some states, to be fair buck, it's going to be very challenging because of when their primary is to be able to redraw the districts before we get to the 2026 elections. So I'll give you an example. Alabama, for instance, I think in mid-May. If I'm not mistaken, has its primary. And so that would be really difficult at this point to do. A state like mine, which has primaries in August, I think could very easily redraw. Now, to be fair as well, the redrawn district in Virginia is currently in front of the Virginia Supreme Court to see whether or not it's legal. Expect that there would be legal challenges to all new districting maps. that are put in place all over the country. And we all know when court cases are arising, that can create complications. Buck, let me hit you with this question. I tweeted this provocatively, provocatively, I say. Provocative clay. Uh-oh. Showing a little leg here. What's going on? Yes. Ketanji Brown Jackson is not eligible to have been put on the Supreme Court based on the decision that you could read the line through in the Voting Rights Act. Let me just kind of give you this argument. If it is unconstitutional to racially gerrymander congressional districts, that is you cannot draw a congressional district to put a black person in office and comply with the Constitution, that is what the Supreme Court said today. How is Joe Biden intentionally saying I'm going to put a black woman on the Supreme Court constitutional?

Think about it. If you can't racially gerrymander congressional districts in the United States, why can you racially gerrymander the Supreme Court? I don't know how many other people are going to start to ask this question. All Biden could have done, if he had just not said, I'm going to put a black woman on the Supreme Court and he had done it. He could argue she was the best. She was the most qualified. He looked at all the candidates and he made that choice as a result. And you wouldn't be able to prove necessarily that her race or her gender. But in this case, her race had something to do with it. But that wasn't enough for Democrats because they play the racial spoil system to such a degree because identity politics is so real buck. Biden specifically and explicitly said, I'm putting a black woman on the Supreme Court. If you said that in a congressional redistricting on its face, it would be unconstitutional. So I don't, I legitimately mean this. I think it's provocative because a lot of people won't address it and they'll be afraid of, oh, well, I'm going to get called racist if I point this out. I don't think it's illegal. Under our Constitution for Joe Biden to have said, I'm putting a black woman, black emphasize here, right, because he did, under the precedence that the Supreme Court now has, not only for redistricting, but also for Supreme Court precedent on for colleges and universities. Now, that gets complicated. We could get a legal nerd on here. I don't know how you challenge her appointment and argue that it invalidates the law. And it would actually turn into an interesting question, which would be, can the president violate federal law in this way? Does he have the province to be able to do it? It turns into an expansive presidential powers argument. And you would have to have someone who has standing and all these things. But a bunch of you are lawyers out there. Am I crazy on this or is the natural reading of this opinion today not a direct indictment of the legality of Ketanji Brown Jackson's appointment to the Supreme Court? I think it is. Well, in principle, but there's no mechanism for they're not going to undo a Supreme Court appointment over there. You don't actually think this is going anywhere. Well, I mean, you're being Clay the law professor, not Clay, the political prognosticator. Yeah, yeah. This is, again, I think the challenge would be standing on how to do it, but. If we're redrawing all these congressional districts because of racial gerrymandering, the Supreme Court was racially gerrymandered too. So anyway, I just think it's, you know, impeachment is the process by which you remove a justice. And that requires a tremendous amount of.

of, you know, 67% or whatever the heck it is of the Senate in order to do. We can't get 67 senators to agree to anything, which is why the whole Trump impeachment is a joke on its face too. But I do think that it directly goes to her appointment, and I don't think it was legal under federal law as applied to the Constitution. Oh, I'd agree. Well, I also think a lot of things have been done that are unconstitutional and illegal under the regime of affirmative action. It's kind of interesting. How do you retroactively think about these things? But the entire elite university industrial complex of our lifetime, really, was engaged in systematic discrimination based upon the understanding we have now of the Constitution of the Supreme Court. And what we basically decided was we used to be racist, so we have to fix the racism with more racism. I mean, that's the simple way, I think, to distill what happened. Yes, racism was bad, and it existed in this country for a long time. How do we fix it? Well, we'll be racist in the other direction to try to balance out the long-term inequities. That's basically the entire concept of affirmative action, which infected and impacted all aspects of American life. And now all we're doing, I would argue, is saying, Well, we were racist. We swung too far in the racist direction, in the other direction, and now we need to come back to a race-neutral concept of the Supreme Court, which, interestingly, overwhelming majorities of voters, white, black, Asian, Hispanic actually are in favor of. Because remember, even in California, affirmative action has gotten trounced when they actually put it on the ballot. Now, partly that's because... The most discriminated against group from affirmative action, arguably, Asian people, when you look at some of the data on college. It was so offensive, too. The way that Harvard tried to cover up what they were doing was to say that Asian, this is from Harvard, to be very clear, extremely academically elite Asian students. lacked leadership capabilities and didn't have good personalities it's like they were saying they were boring yeah they were boring yeah that's what harvard was saying internally yeah That's a tough one. We love Asian people. Own a business, you must carry business insurance. But that doesn't mean you have to have six different brokers for the half dozen kinds of business insurance you need. Super Sure can change all of that. One broker for all your business insurance backed by a team that works with you year round, not just at renewal. And if you've ever stared at a policy wondering what it covers, Super Sure has a fine print fax tool. That translates the legal jargon into plain English so you know what's covered and what's not. Go online to super sure.com slash clay. Get a full report on your current policies with no obligations. Find out if you're overinsured, underinsured, or somewhere in between. Go to super sure.com slash clay. One powerful platform. All your policies in one place. Supershore.com slash clay.

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Anthony Fauci has been the central lynchpin of much of what you are talking about for some time. This is a top aide to Anthony Fauci that has now been charged. We should, by the way, producer Alley, we should get Rand Paul on to talk about this as well. You should. Because he has been very deeply involved on this. But Anthony Fauci got a pardon from President Trump. Now, we had an auto-pin call earlier. The question is, to what extent, President Trump, I said, I meant Biden. The question is to what extent is the auto-pin pardon potentially valid? Do you think that Anthony Fauci will face any charges? Because this is getting very close to him. My argument would be that I would like to see charges brought against him, even if we later... find out that the pardon protects him from those charges because I care about the historical record here. And I know a lot of people, and I'm sure you feel this too, Alex, just want to pretend the whole COVID era didn't happen. There have largely been very few consequences associated with anything that happened during COVID. And I would like to see the historical record reflect that Anthony Fauci did lie in front of Congress, to your point that we helped fund some of the research that led to the COVID virus and that it did in fact likely originate from a Chinese lab. And many people in positions of power in America worked very hard to try to keep that discussion from even taking place because I do think that's significant. Are you with me on that? You can unpack a lot of what I said as well. I'm with you. I would like to see it happen. I don't think it's going to happen. And there's a couple reasons for that. First of all, if you actually read the indictment, it's written. So it refers to co-conspirators or two co-conspirators mentioned. Dasik is one and another scientist who people don't know as well as the other. Anthony Fauci is repeatedly mentioned as I think a senior director of the National Institutes of Health. He's not mentioned as a co-conspirator. And in fact, one of the documents that was released in 2024 is pretty striking. And Warren said to some people, give me stuff, and I will hand it to Tony because he doesn't want to, you know, run a foul of these laws. Morin says that, not Anthony Fauci directly, but he says that. you know, Anthony Fauci was going out of his way to avoid these laws. That email is not referenced in the complaint. And that's clearly, that's a deliberate choice. I think, I think there are two reasons why they don't want to go to Anthony Fauci. First of all, you know, President Trump has used the pardon power, let's say, aggressively. And I think, I think he probably does not want people questioning the president's unquestioned ability to pardon. And the other is that, is that Anthony Fauci, you know, he's just, he remains sort of a venerated figure by a lot of people, and it's just easier to keep him out of this.

So I'm with you. I would like to see it happen. And I think a judge considering that Anthony Fauci's been pardoned would just toss any charges as soon as they came in front of him on the basis that the pardon is sort of, you know, has no restrictions and is designed to prevent you from even having to face a trial or any cost of your own defense or anything like that. And so I think it gets tossed. There is a guy, there's one other person who, you know, is central to all of this. And he's somebody who even people who, you know, maybe pretty knowledgeable about this stuff, don't always know. His name is Ralph Barrack. He is a scientist in North Carolina. His name, he is mentioned, although not by name, once in the complaint. And Barrack is the leading coronavirus researcher in the United States, probably the world. And his research. really form the backbone of what the Chinese were doing that probably caused COVID to leak. And he has managed to stay quiet and out of this the whole, you know, for five years now. It's really amazing. And if this indictment is a, you know, it sort of gets them on the path to forcing Ralph Amy Coney Barrett to disclose publicly what he knew and who he might have been working with. And frankly, you know, whether there was intelligence agency involvement who he was talking to, that would be. A huge win for history. Speaking to Alex Barrensen, his substack is unreported truths, which I'm a subscriber to and does great research and work on that. Do you think this guy's in real trouble, Morins? Do you think that this could be a real problem for him? Oh, yeah. He's going to go to jail. I mean, I shouldn't, you know, let's let me defend myself a little legally here and say, assuming the complaints are true, he's in serious legal jeopardy. Yes, it's a strong complaint. And these are pretty, like, these laws are pretty straightforward. You know, you're supposed to do public business on, you know, on email accounts and other places where the federal government can save them. Those accounts are really all the property of the federal government. Fair employees know this, they're trained in this, and he displays repeated knowledge of this and an effort to avoid it. I mean, as criminal cases go, it's pretty, it's pretty open and shot. How much do you feel like, looking at this now, Alex, in the totality, I know you wrote a book about it too, how much of the Pope Anthony Fauci maximum measures? kind of health totalitarianism that COVID turned into very rapidly the COVID era turned into was an effort in your mind to make sure that nobody would be able to dig up this stuff and see that the virus that we were all supposed to change all of our lives and do all this stuff and the trillions of dollars and that that whole global era was actually the result of a bunch of idiotic government-funded scientists doing something that never should have been in the first place do you tie those two things together I think it's a fantastic question. And I do tie them together. I would phrase it a little differently. I would say Anthony Fauci, they were very nervous about this, particularly early on. And, you know, because, you know, they knew that these chimeric viruses that Barrack had been working on for a decade could be quite dangerous. They didn't really know how good the Chinese data was. And so they decided they had to lock down really early, really fast. And that set in motion.

a whole bunch of decisions that, you know, that took years to undo. And then they lied, right? And then they tried to discourage anybody from looking at this. And, you know, and look, our politics have taken a bad conspiratorial turn in the last five years. And I've now heard a couple people say in the last few days, I think it's true. Our unwillingness to reckon with COVID at the government level, at the media level, sort of at the institutional level, is subconsciously... driving a lot of this i think that's a hundred i think that's so true about anything yes i've already cut you off there but i think that's really well said because So many people recognize in this audience that we were lied to so deeply about COVID-related stories that any story that the government's trying to tell us, there's just a great deal of skepticism, including some people in this audience don't even believe that there was an assassin who tried to kill Trump on Saturday. They just think that that whole thing is made up, right? I mean, that was very immediate. Let me ask you this, Alex, two-parter here, kind of to put a bow on this. Is there any way that this case could implicate Anthony Fauci, meaning is there any way, I know you say he's not indicted as a co-conspirator, any way that any of these guys start singing to save themselves and try to give up? This happens very often in criminal cases, try to give up a bigger fish. So I'm curious, you've read the indictment and dove into it more than I have. And then secondly, you've covered this for six years now. What is the legacy of COVID going to look like from a historical perspective now that we're six years away? 50 years from now, they'll write what on COVID? Those are a little bit disconnected, but I'm curious your thoughts on both. So I think Morin's shows every sign of being a true believer. He's 78 years old. I don't think he's going to flip. To the extent he even has something flippable because of these issues about Anthony Fauci's pardon. I think he'll go to jail and think he's a hero. Um, he'll think that what he did was right that the, and he'll, and he'll go to his grave, uh, insisting that there's no proof that this came out of a lab, that this is just a right wing conspiracy theory. Um, and that, you know, we need to research these viruses and that eco health alliance was doing God's work. He, I do not, I do not think he's going to flip. Um, uh, you know. Life in jail is not that long for him, and he's not just in life in jail anyway. But no, I don't think that's going to happen. 50 years from now, I think it's an open question. I think if we don't... do what the three of us seem to think we need to do and face COVID and face the lives and face the potential problems that the vaccines created head on and face the U.S. government's involvement in this research. You know, this could be the time, you know, in 50 years, they could be like, this is when, you know, U.S. politics really entered, you know, a dark conspiratorial era for a long time. I hope that doesn't happen. But.

You know, like you said, it's been five years and we're no closer to getting to the truth. Alex Barence and everybody, man knows what's up. Alex, thanks so much. Go check out his substack on reported truths. And we'll talk to you again soon. Thanks for having me, guys. Look, severe weather's been slamming all different parts of the country of late. Huge tornado threats all over many different parts of the country. It won't be very long until we're back into hurricane season. So many different things can go wrong. Do you have rapid radios to stay in touch with your family in the event of a weather emergency? You should 500,000 people have signed up nationwide one push to talk button. I also have mentioned this. We have an 11-year-old. He doesn't have a phone yet, but if we want him out running around, we can give him a rapid radio. We stay in touch with him, keeps him off the internet, but lets us be able to make sure where he is. Right now, when you get rapid radios, you also get $300 in free gear with your order, including a tactical radio bag, USB charger, and... an EMP Faraday bag, plus every order includes a 30-day money-back guarantee. Go to rapid radios.com, use code radio for 5% off and free shipping when you need to be heard, rapid radios.com code radio. Free sector pals, playing book on the eye hard ass. Life moves fast. At American Military University, they're ready to help you keep up. AMU's flexible, affordable online programs in cybersecurity, IT, space studies, and more are designed for service members, veterans, and their families. AMU provides the support you need to take the next step, wherever life takes you. American Military University, made for what's next. Learn more at amu.apus.edu.edu. Entertain clients, reward employees, or enjoy a first-class race weekend with VIR's premium MSA hospitality experiences. August 21st through 23rd, enjoy exclusive viewing areas, premium amenities, food and beverage options, and access that puts you close to the action. Whether for business or pleasure, elevate your weekend at Virginia International Raceway. Explore and upgrade your tickets at VIRVIP.net. Vital doesn't always mean visible. Across America, advanced technology is working behind the scenes, strengthening our nation. It protects our warfighters, advances life-saving healthcare, combat cyber threats, and defends the critical infrastructure that keeps our country moving. At GDIT, we power the systems that help America operate, connect, and stay secure. Every hour, every mission, every day. GDIT, behind America's invisible advantage. You want your master's degree. You know you can earn it, but life gets busy. The pack schedule, the late nights, and then there's the unexpected. American Public University was built for all of it. With monthly starts and no set login times, APU's 40 plus flexible online master's programs are designed to move at the speed of life. Start your master's journey today at APU.APUS.edu. You want it?

And he is using that to cover paychecks, but we have got to get DHS funded. So we're going to do this the way we did the big, beautiful bill back last year. We're going to do it on reconciliation. We are working right now on a public safety reconciliation bill. We can pass that with 51 votes. We are going to pass it. We're going to fund. DHS for the rest of President Trump's administration and make certain that individuals like the Coast Garden, TSA, and the Secret Service and the Homeland Security investigators and ICE and CBP, and all the individuals that work in these agencies are going to get their paycheck and not have to worry about it because the Democrats are just hell-bent. on shutting down our law enforcement, defunding the police. They continue to say it, abolishing ICE, they continue to rant and rave about doing it. We're talking to Senator Marsha Blackburn, soon to be the next governor of Tennessee. You will have a lot more control as the governor over state decisions, but many state decisions we have seen out there, particularly Minnesota, where it got a ton of attention, have been designed in many ways to keep ICE from doing their job. You want to put in place an opportunity for state and federal governments to work even more on the ice front. What would that look like in Tennessee if you were governor and what would it give the opportunity for many out there across the nation to do? Yes, and my 287G Enhancement Act is where we see this. Of course, in Tennessee, we have just seen us move forward with legislation or the General Assembly moved forward with the legislation that requires the sheriffs to work with federal law enforcement when it comes to deporting illegal aliens, and that is where the 287G program comes in place. And my legislation would incentivize your sheriffs and local law enforcement, state law enforcement, to develop programs and work with... ICE, work with the Department of Justice. And if they do, and they have these 287 agreements, then they can get a 10% bonus on their payments and their grants that they are given. Because the Department of Justice reimburses local governments on these expenses. So being able to incentivize them.

will help us in ending some of these sanctuary cities. You know, we've got 39 states that you've got at least one local law enforcement entity that partners with ICE and with the federal government. And in Tennessee, we've got 49 counties that have at least one law enforcement agency that has a 287G agreement. We want to expand this. Marsha Blackburn, we just got word that President Trump has weighed in moments ago. So this is breaking moments ago on the Iran situation. We wanted to play this and have you react to what the president just said about Iran. Play cut 35. Politically, they're defeated, okay. You wouldn't know that by reading the fake news, but militarily, look, they're Navy. So they had 159 ships. Every ship is right now underwater. Typically, that's pretty good. What do you think, Jared? I mean, it's going to be hard for them to make a naval comeback. Okay, now they have an Air Force. Every one of their planes has been shut down or has been decimated. They have missiles, about 82% are gone, and they have drones. And most of them are gone. Most of the factories are mostly gone. And we have tremendous anti-dron equipment now between lasers and that new very special machine gun that knocks them out of the air like flies. And we use bullets instead of million-dollar missiles to knock out a $30,000 drone. So I would say Jared would tell me that with everything he just heard, typically we're in pretty good shape. And in addition, their economy is crashing. What do you make of it, Marsha Blackburn? What I make of it is Epic Fury and Economic Fury are both working. We hear that their economy is getting close to collapse their monetary system. The devaluation there is about 90%. We also know that we've been successful, as the President said, with diminishing and basically doing away with their Navy, their Air Force, their missile capacity. On the drones, he talked about our ability to take their drones out. And in the supplemental that the Department of War sent to us last week, they asked for a $56 billion. increase, which is an investment in drone capacity and the technology that we can use to diminish these drones before they get to their target. All of this is a positive. Here's the thing. Donald Trump is determined that we are going to remove the ability of Iran to have a nuclear weapon. And the Iranians need to realize and the IRGC needs to realize they have to come to the table and negotiate with us and end this enriching of uranium and that we will not allow them to have a nuclear weapon. It is an imperative for the health, safety, well-being of all Americans for our kids and our grandkids.

Last question for you, I want to come back to where we started. You said you want the state legislature in Tennessee to come in and in the Memphis district. I know you talk to a lot of state legislature members and you'll be the governor sooner rather than later, but do you think they will do it? How would you set the odds on the likelihood of Tennessee having a 100% red congressional districts? Yeah. As I said, we've got time to do this. Our elections are not until August. So we have plenty of time. And what we see is this turns the VRA back to its original intent. And it says you cannot exercise racial discrimination. Indeed, I do think that you are going to see this as a revisit. What this did is to really rewrite that test on how Section 2 is applied. And because of that, I do think the Tennessee legislature and probably some others will come in and they will look at those maps and make certain that they are not a gerrymandered map. Good stuff, Senator. Appreciate you. Keep the fight up. You got it. Take care. Bye now. Yeah, I was just going to say she's fabulous. Yes. Fabulous, Senator. So thank you. Thank you. We're big fans of Cozy Earth here. The true story, I've got like a section in my closet now. That's just all the cozy earth pants. I love their pants so much that I have just different colors of them now. You'll notice I kind of wear the same t-shirt, but different colors of the same t-shirt every day. Once I find something I love, oh, Cozy Earth makes amazing t-shirts, by the way. Once I find something I love, I stay with it. And Cozy Earth, I was snuggled up last night. with cozy earth pants, a cozy earth t-shirt, cozy earth bubble blanket, and cozy earth socks on on my couch. I mean, I was pretty much decked out in this head to toe. So it's just amazing. They've got so many great products. Mother's Day is coming up. What are you going to do? You're like, Buck, I don't know what you do. We'll get yourself some cozy earth. It's fit for a king. The royals themselves would sleep on cozy earth blankets, pillows, sheets. It's fantastic quality. Everything you need, cozyearth.com. The King of England would love this stuff. Mother's Day sale coming up. Go to cozyearth.com. Go to cozyearth.com for 20% off. That's cozyEarth.com promo code buck. You'll get 20% off. And if you see the post-purch survey, please mention you heard about them on this show. CozyEarth.com, promo code buck. Get your Mother's Day shopping done now. It's like having your house at the perfect temperature all the time. Preset Clay and Buck on the iHeart app.

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