Hour 3 - The Gov't is Stealing Your Money

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So I would expect there will be multiple lawsuits filed in Tennessee probably as soon as the governor signs this bill, which could happen before the end of the week. And all of this is currently playing itself out in a very significant fashion because it's really kind of hard to predict who's going to win control of the House if we don't even know fully what the House districts are going to look like and Dorbuck. Also, we're still waiting to see what the Virginia Supreme Court is going to say. about the gerrymandered districts that went from 6.5 in favor of Democrats in the relatively purple state of Virginia to 10-1 in favor of Democrats. So I would say this is the biggest story to follow right now in terms of who's going to be in control of our government in the House in particular, because Buck, we know that if Democrats take back control of the House, they're just going to block everything that President Trump tries to do. and they're going to impeach him. So we will get impeachment three. And to a large extent, in terms of being able to pass congressional acts, the Trump presidency will be over if the House flips back to control of Democrats and certainly if the Senate does as well. So how closely are you following this? I'm going to be honest with you. I'm kind of obsessively interested in what the courts are going to say. Unfortunately, it feels like everything that's going on in politics now, something happens, and then we just sit back and say, we'll just have to see what the courts say because it's hard to project exactly what's going to happen. Well, to me, Clay, it brings me back to my initial reaction to the Calais case, which was essentially the same as Clarence Thomas's view of this whole thing, which is this is an unworkable mess with a lot of arbitrariness and political nonsense going on because there was a decision made in the Voting Rights Act or various decisions made in the Voting Rights Act to start treating people differently based on skin color. And that's a problem. And you can say it was necessary because of the emergency of previous discrimination at the time. You can make that case. I still think we would have been better off if we had just made the law actually. treat everyone like equals, but we decided to go in the other direction. And now we're still dealing with the legacy of those decisions. And a Supreme Court that now has said affirmative action is not allowable for college admissions, for example. Same thing should be true and is true constitutionally about government set-asides for minority loans and hiring and all these things. I think UCLA actually right now is in trouble for discriminating against white applicants. I'm sure they're doing that. Yes. Because the people in these admissions committees are deeply ideologically committed to violating the Constitution or violating the Supreme Court's more recent decision as it pertains to Constitution about this stuff. Same thing with this notion of the Voting Rights Act in Section 2 and having to sort of protect people's voting power based upon race. No. No.

This is never going to be what, you know, this is never going to work out cleanly because you're discriminating. You're making discriminations about people based on skin color. So then that was Thomas's dissent, right? The others, the others in the majority, Clay, and the six three were much more, you know, well, you know, they put too much emphasis on it and the test and this thing. And they got very into the legalistic mechanisms. You know, Supreme Court nerd stuff gets you excited, keeps you up at night. But. But the basics of this from Thomas is just like, what do you mean we have to have a congressional district that protects black votes? We have people that are Americans who vote, who live in places, and the states are determining what the districts are. And the race or the gender or the gender identity of people in any district should not make any difference to what the state is doing. That's actually where, and by the way, we're not there yet because of voting VR Voting Rights Act Section 2, but we should be there. We are going to get a lot in the wake of this map being ratified by the House and the Senate in Tennessee, soon to be signed by the governor. We're going to get a lot of, oh, my goodness, this is racist. Why can't Memphis have its own district and have the ability to elect black representatives? A white guy represents Memphis right now and has for years and years, Steve Cohen. So you're going to hear, I do think it's kind of funny, oh, they're taking away black representation, oh, they're not going to allow black members of Congress. There's a white guy who represents Memphis right now, and he's 70-some-odd years old. He's a white Jewish guy, right? Yeah, white Jewish guy. He's been in office for a long time. So I do think just get ready for the histrionics because they're going to try to play the race card. But the response is, well, there's a white Jewish guy who's representing Memphis right now. You're not exactly taking away a black representative to the extent that you want to play race-based dynamics. There's also another big part of this. And I'm surprised it hasn't gotten more attention, Buck. It seems like the Democrats held this case as long as they possibly could to try to keep redistricting from occurring before the 2026 midterms. And I don't know how many of you have seen this story because I don't think it got anywhere near the amount of attention it should have. In the, so first of all, there was a request that the actual impact of the judgment be held for 32 days. And Samuel Alito effectively said no, we're not going to hold this case. And he also said in the writing that this case was argued seven months ago, I believe. Democrats have been trying to run out the clock. And we kind of hinted at this. They didn't want this Calais, Louisiana decision to come out. And then they were trying to add another 32 days to make it impossible for any of the southern states to actually adjust their overall.

um their overall lineup and some of the language i'm trying to find it in my uh in my feed this is this is where katangy Ketanji Brown Jackson is just like hey come on man like why don't we just let it go for another 35 days what's the big deal let's let a little delay happen let's let this election happen with an unconstitutional map because you know reasons It was not good. Samuel Alito was very, very forceful in his slapdown of this clearly partisan logic. Yes, and I do think it's significant that you are seeing what is usually pretty... collegial opinions in many ways. There are disagreements, but these guys have to work together for decades at a time. There are lots of people out there, I think, on the Supreme Court, both justices and people who work at the court that are just fed up with Ketanji Brown Jackson. And you can see it in the way that they are responding now. Even Amy Coney Barrett, we talked about it when it came out, took a two by four to... to Ketanji Brown Jackson. And Amy Coney Barrett is, it seems to me, just a super nice PTA mom in terms of what her interpersonal relationships are like on a day-to-day basis. And so the way that they have teed off here, I think is representative of everybody just kind of being fed up with her overall. So again, this is a big story. We don't know what the courts are going to say. Here I finally found that I was trying to scroll through and find it. The dissent, this is from Samuel Alito, goes on to claim our decision represents an unprincipled use of power. That is groundless and utterly irresponsible charge. What principle has the court violated? The principle that rule 453s, 32-day default period should never be shortened even when there's a good reason to do so. The principle that we should never take any action that might unjustifiably be criticized as partisan. The dissent accuses the court of, quote, unshackling itself from constraints. It is the dissents rhetoric that lacks restraint. And again, I understand, you know, some of you are like, man, that sounds super nerdy. This is one lawyer basically walking up to another lawyer and slapping him in the face and saying, you're insane. That's about as aggressive of a language as you're going to get. And again, there seems to have been a concerted effort on behalf of the Democrat representatives appointees to have held this case as long as possible to try to avoid impacting the 2026 midterms. We told you that that was likely going to be the case, but... the way that this is written kind of lets you know that that was, in fact, likely to be the case. Yeah. That's the situation right now. It's going to continue to be litigated out on the courts, and we'll see where people end up with this one. But ultimately, Clay, it's a fight over power. Because if you aptly noted, Democrats turn the House of Representatives into nothing but an opposition machine to Trumpism.

the second that they can, and they will be entirely unhinged. I have seen, think about it this way. The only moderating force you've seen on the Democrats. really since 2024 has been John Fetterman. Yeah, you're right. And John Fetterman is about to become either an independent or caucus with Republicans or he's really not welcome in the Democrat Party anymore. That's correct. So what does that tell you? I was having a conversation about this going forward. He basically can't run as a Democrat in the 2028 cycle. Because he's not acting like a lunatic. Yes. Right. You have to be down with the lunatic stuff to be a Democrat in good standing. And so that means that you're going to continue to have people pushing for these policies and these decisions that I think are manifestly wrong. And on top of that, this is a reminder to everybody. You know, you're seeing a lot of... infighting on the right these days and all this other stuff i'm telling you clay once once people realize what the commies have in store for us the good the bad news is that they'll be trying to destroy the country the good news it will be very unifying on the right Well, there'll be less squabbling among your favorite podcast hosts, I can assure you. One more sentence here that I wanted to hit. The dissent, this is Samuel Alito's opinion. The dissent would require the 26 congressional elections in Louisiana be held under a map that has been held to be unconstitutional. That really kind of gets to the essence of it, but they held it so long that they hoped to the politics would be such that they would not be able to take action. And I do think that is very, very significant. I agree with that. So we shall see. Oh, yeah, running out the clock, by the way, something the Lib's doing in the Supreme Court now all the time, even when there are other justices whose lives are in jeopardy because of the delay. As we know, we talked to Molly Hemingway about that with her great new book. So, yeah, they are ruthless. Don't ever forget it. Okay, if you receive unexpected communications about unemployment benefits from the government, don't fall for it. It's the latest scam attempt by cyber criminals working to get your information and steal your identity. Online hackers often buy email addresses and cell phone numbers from data brokers. That's what they use to contact you with some made-up scheme. These schemes are very sophisticated. Honestly, the bad guys are getting better and better at what they do. You need someone to have your back. It's why it's important to know what LifeLock does. This is a company that provides the best... Online identity theft protection there is. LifeLock monitors millions of data points a second for risks to your identity. Their 24-7 system looks for a pattern of irregular activity, random account openings, all kinds of stuff that you won't be able to catch on your own and notifies you so you can take immediate action. And if you do become a victim of identity theft, a dedicated U.S.-based restoration specialist at LifeLock will fix it, guaranteed, or your money back.

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refuses to do that. Hey, my heck, it's Buck, and thank you for joining us here. You're talking about the scale of what seems to be a very broad, apparent fraud going on, a systematic fraud, systemic and systematic, enforcement against this. JD Vance has been tasked to do this, but that's going to take some time. Financial crimes, in particular on the federal side, can be somewhat long in terms of the start of the investigation to the actual bringing of charges. Why haven't we seen more deterrence prosecution of this in Ohio? It would feel like this is pretty easy. This would be low-hanging fruit for some AUSA to say you're completely ripping off the tax payer, you're defrauding the American government, and this has got to stop. Why aren't they doing that? Buck, it's such an easy question, but this is a loaded question. It's because a U.S. Attorney's Office or any prosecutor actually needs the evidence. I've spoken to the U.S. Attorney's Office. I used to work down the street, and they're looking for evidence of fraud. So that lands squarely with the Governor's Office and the Attorney General. The same place is that whistleblowers have gone and said there is fraud happening. The Governor's Office, since January 15th, his agency has refused to give us the amount of dollars that we're even giving. to these home health care systems. So when you knock on doors, most of these people are in the Somalian community. They don't speak English. So I'm wondering how they're even providing services. But the governor's office is not giving information. The only state official in Ohio that's actually looking into this. is our auditor Keith Faber. Let me tell you something. He has also asked for information and the governor's office and his agency is slowly trickling that information. So audits take a lot of time. It's hard to understand what type of fraud is actually happening and how much. But all you need is to knock on a door to realize they're not providing home health care services. They don't even speak English. People are complacent in the state of Ohio and so many other agencies because... This isn't their tax dollars. I mean, it's ours. They're just rubber stamping it. They don't care about Ohioans. They don't care about Americans. They want to just continue to funnel money out the door as long as they're paid. That's the problem in America today. Primary in Ohio just happened on Tuesday, open governor's race and a Senate seat that is up for grabs as well, featuring a 30-year Democrat trying to come back into power, Sherrod Brown, going up against Houston, who is someone that a lot of people don't know that well. Ohio has been moved very much in the direction of the Republican Party over the last generation.

How nervous? You're in Ohio. How nervous should people be who are looking at Ohio as sort of a canary in a coal mine, so to speak, for what might happen in the midterms? And how competitive do you think those governor and Senate races will be in the end? I'm glad you asked. I am terrified in Ohio. Yes, we're a red state, but we could easily shift back to purple. Vivek Ramaswamy won every single corner in our state. But guess who got the most votes? It was Sherrod Brown. The Democrats are amped up this cycle. They want to make sure that they take the Senate back, that they take the House back, and they eviscerate President Trump's policies. So when I was voting in Franklin County, every single individual around me, Democrat ballots. And this is a problem. Again, we have a complacency problem in America. Republicans think Ohio is just a red state and we're going to win. Sherrod Brown brought over $100 million the last time against... our state Senator Bernie Moreno, this time it's going to be much worse against John Houston. And I think Ohioans really need to understand that this is an election of a lifetime for us. And Democrats are going to be pushing strong. And then we have many Dr. Anthony Fauci running. You guys saw Amy acted and what she did. She locked on our state. Yeah, she was like a little Anthony Fauci disciple, which is very disappointing. Hopefully she's not going to lock it down in the future for some kind of a hanta virus outbreak. So talk to us about national security, if you would for a minute. I know you have a national security background. As of today, the Iranian regime has not accepted the Trump administration's... offer for a full reopening of the Strait of Hormuz. There's reporting from Axios that we may have some kind of an outline of a deal to be figured out in specifics later. What do you think about where we stand right now with bringing Iran to heal and getting this situation solved so the gas prices can start to come back down? I think we're going to need a maximum pressure campaign. Look, I think Iran should understand the scoreboard that President Trump holds all the cards. We have control of the Strait of Hermuz, which is 90% of the oil supply. But Iran really doesn't have their act together. There are so many different factions that are trying to negotiate. And when you have death to America as your bottom line, they're going to continue to stall. But the problem today is for Americans to realize is we have to start pushing for all of our Gulf states. Saudi Arabia and Kuwait that's actually opened up the air base, all of the other Gulf states need to get on board. And then China, Japan, India, the fact that India is sitting on the fence when they need oil just as much as some of these other countries. But I think President Trump has put a lot of pressure, and this is not going to end well for Iran. I don't think that they're going to negotiate in good faith. I don't see this MOU really happening. I think they're stalling and they're hoping that at some point when Trump is gone, a new president comes in. And they can continue to build nukes and continue to work on their death to America's strategy. So I'm hoping that President Trump just uses the nuclear option because that's what's needed today. Take out their electric grid. Let's look at the straight of Hermuth in terms of putting a plan in place where other countries start to shepherd and to own that area. And then we also need to look at Carg Island.

That would be aggressive. That would be stepping things up in a significant way. How concerned are you about the impact in the midterms of high gas prices? And are you concerned that if you step it up, as you suggested we need to do, that that could lead to more significant consequences economically, since a lot of people do judge the state of the economy based on what it costs them to fill up their car? Well, Clay, you posted yesterday on acts that gas prices are lower today than there were a year ago. And if you look at the Obama administration, I mean, we are on par if not doing better. President Trump was able to turn around a 40-year inflation within months after Joe Biden got the heck out of office. So I know that we have. and American energy independence here. And we need to start getting creative about gas prices because you're right. Most Americans don't think about what was happening under Biden or even Obama, but those are the facts. So I think where we need to be is not only accelerating what we're doing in Iran instead of continuing to give them a grace period, but also figure out what else we can do in terms of energy independence drilling right here in America. Okay, two-partner here. I don't know if you watched any of the California-L.A. mayor debate featuring the candidates that are kind of really kind of going at it with Spencer being the sane one out there. And then also we had the California governor's race going on. So first part, did you ever watch the hills? Did you see Spencer Pratt back in the day? This is a question. You're in that ballpark age where I think you may have watched the hills. Did you know Spencer Pratt before this? What did you think of the LA debate? What did you think of the California debate? Is sanity possible in terms of voting results in that state? So I did watch The Hills. I watched his wife, Heidi, very closely. And to see Spencer Pratt run from where he was on the Hills to where he is today just tells you that the younger generation can be saved, especially when we're fighting against Democrats. I mean, he came out with an epic ad. It's what everybody wants. What Republicans talk about today is somebody who'll come in with options. That superhero mentality. And what Democrats want to do is just burn everything down and assassinate us. But you see that. bifurcation. So I think where Spencer Pratt is going is genius. And the fact that Democrats today continue to act like they're not in control for the last 16 years as they're burning down California just made me laugh. But my favorite moment, I got to talk about the gubernatorial, was Katie Porter. Everybody's saying she said the quiet part out loud, and we know that. But I think what Democrats continue to do is redefine English, like boys or girls. Now it's... Everybody's a Californian, even if you're an illegal alien, which is technically legally the right word for these people that are here. But they're doing this replacement theory where they're trying to get rid of Americans. And you both know this. So many people in California have laughed between, I've looked at stats between the last couple years, over 400,000 individuals. But they're just replacing them with illegals. So the real question you have to ask is, what are they doing with those voter rolls? Because there is a replacement strategy where they...

want illegals to vote. I don't think Hermit Dillon has been able to get those voter rolls out of California. I'll have to check that. But I think that's where Democrats are trying to win every single election by replacing us. And I think Californians have a clear choice. Steve Hilton knows what it means to work hard. He knows what it means to deliver change. I really hope that sanity comes back to California. I'm praying, but I also worry about illegal voters. Amen. Mehek, Cook. We appreciate the time. First time on the show. Keep up the good work. Thank you so much. Look, we had Frank Siller on the show yesterday talking about the fact that the 25th anniversary of 9-11 is rapidly approaching. And we also posted that segment up at the YouTube page, for those of you who want to take a look and hear the story of how Frank came to found Tunnel the Towers after losing his brother, firefighter, Stephen Siller. But that's not the end of all the people that have made great sacrifices for sure. And Tunnel the Towers continues to find and honor people. heroes like United States Navy chief technician Shannon Kent. Her service was inspired by the 9-11 attacks, a decorated warrior and a mom. Shannon served multiple tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. She lost her life in a suicide bomb attack in Syria. In this 25th year of 9-11, her sacrifice reminds us of the cost and lasting impact of that day. Shannon left behind her husband Joseph. and two young boys. Tunnel the Towers paid off the Kent family's mortgage, giving the family the security of knowing their home is theirs forever. Help even more families like the Kent's. We owe a debt of gratitude to brave first responders and those defending our freedoms. Your donation to Tunnel the Towers can make a world of difference. Donate $11 a month or amplify your impact with a car or land donation. Go to T2.org. That's T2.T. dot org miss the show while you're on the go wind down your day with the daily review podcast find it on the iheart radio app or wherever you get your podcast welcome back into clay and buck we are closing up shop here for the day a great time to remind you all to please check out the clay and buck podcast network which uh hour by hour the show goes up on also we've got so many other great shows dave rutherford carroll markowitz Tudor Dixon I can't, there's Ryan Gurdowski. We got so many people on there. Go check them out. They're doing great work. We've got a lot of talkbacks, Mr. Clay. And if you have any live, you have the live screen right in front of you. If you have any of those, by all means, I'll throw one talkback. Let's start rolling through some of these talkbacks, because we got so many of them that have stacked up. And you guys can always come and join us and get your talkbacks into the program as well. Let's do a Scott from West Valley City, Utah. This is B on the talkbacks. Hey, Clay and Buck. I heard you talk on the other day about how many pull-ups a middle-aged man could do, a typical middle-aged man. I'm pleased to report. Last week, I did 18, almost 19, solid dead hangs in a row. I'm 48 years old. Okay, that's a lot, Scott.

Save some ladies for the rest of us, buddy. Yeah, no kidding. That's good. This is funny, Buck. Spencer Pratt, how many people know him from the Hills? Catherine Birmingham says she's 68 years old. Listen. 68-year-old woman here. I watched the Hills and know who Spencer Pratt is. Now, if she was 68 and from Laguna Beach, I'd be like, yeah, of course. But 68 from Alabama watching the Hills. threw me for a Louvre. I thought of Mahek, who we just heard from, I would bet, I'm guessing on people's age, but I would, my heck is in that window of women that I said I would have expected to know. But one of our listeners, so you just heard from Birmingham, of course I watched the Hills. Here is Baton Rouge, Louisiana, saying 36-year-old, listen. Hey, Clay and Buck. I listen every day, huge fan. I just wanted to say, Clay, we're going to have to change that 100% of all women between the ages of 35 and 36 have seen the hills because, nope, wrong, 36-year-old here, never seen it, never had any desire to see it, not my cup of tea. But, I mean, I know you probably think it's just fabulous, but don't be lumping all of us girls together. Wow. Wow. There was a last minute roundhouse kick there. I did not see that coming. She took me out. Catherine and Birmingham 68 watched it. The other one did not. Let's see. Let's have some fun with this as we go to break for the, by break. For the show. Yes. It's breaking for a 24 hours, yes. Yeah, 24 hour break. 22 hour break, I guess, 21 hour. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says you can't earn a billion dollars, buck, 34. There's a certain level of wealth and accumulation that is unearned, right? You can't earn a billion dollars. That's right. You just can't earn that. That's exactly correct. You can get market power. You can... break rules. You can do all sorts of things. You can abuse labor laws. You can pay people less than what they're worth. But you can't earn that, right? And so you have to create a myth that since you didn't earn that, you have to create a myth of earning it. There's a Kamala Harris's future vice president there, by the way. I mean, we can all roll our eyes at this, but this is Democrat Party orthodoxy. She's not standing outside the bounds of what they consider to be. Look, I mean, I think the best way to put it on, there is a war on the meritocracy, there's a war on success in the Democrat Party, and that's unhealthy and has to be utterly defeated. She's a Marxist general in the war on successful people. There you go.