Daily Review with Clay and Buck - May 11 2026

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People make these assumptions like, oh, you put your career, well, no. Some people just have a, have a problem. You know, there's a genetic issue and some kind of a challenge that they have to deal with. And I'm incredibly sympathetic to that. I have so many friends who have been through that. And, well, a lot of them also feel like they were lied to because they were told, don't worry, this is like a light switch that at age 40 as a woman or a guy, you can just hit the light switch and now the baby happens. It's not how it works. and you actually want to be having they should be honest with people about this you want to be having kids biologically speaking biologically speaking you want to be having kids in your 20s in your 20s yeah that's true for the men as well i might add your your uh let's just say your gear even if you can have kids, McJagger style when you're like, isn't he like 80 and he just had a kid or something? It's better, more efficient, less likely to have problems for the baby. If you do, if you make babies in your 20s, you know, early 30s or around there. But waiting into your 40s, you know, I just think that I can only speak from my perspective. I know so many women who were. pushed culturally away from having kids until they reach some imaginary milestone of professionalism and then it was supposed to happen and a lot of them have had trouble having kids. So there's a big conversation and there's a lot of pieces to it. I will just say, we've got to have more babies in America. And that is absolutely the case. And that's something that I've learned now that I'm older. And my favorite little person in the whole wide world is my little son. And I just want as many people as possible to experience that joy. And, you know, there's also the culture of, okay, well, not everyone can have kids, but, you know, everyone can be a really involved aunt or uncle. Everyone can be a godfather, a godparent, a grandparent who's, you know what I mean? The family can be a part of... that the child's life within the family beyond just the mom and the dad. And I think that's something that should also really be encouraged. I'm actually a fan of multi-generational households. I think that the grandparents being as close as possible, if not in the same house, as close as possible, when feasible is a good thing. You know, just like everything else, it's not about what's always true. It's about what is usually true. You know, when you're setting policy or when you're encouraging. 350 million people to act a certain way, there's always going to be exceptions. But as a friend of mine who is a fitness influencer says, when I tell people to take walks, I'm not trying to offend people with no legs. I'm just trying to encourage the 99% of people who can take walks to take walks. And that's the reality of having more children is we want to be a society that is fostering this, encouraging this as much as possible. By the way, even if someone doesn't like kids, they have to acknowledge, which I think is a bizarre, even more bizarre than not liking dogs. Even if someone says, well, I don't really like kids, our society will collapse. We cannot be America if we are not having American children. That's where we are. So I think Trump taking this on is very important. I like that he is making these initiatives front and center, and there's a lot to do there. Okay. The L.A. mayor's race is fascinating.

and we're going to have some people coming on to join. I'm just checking to see. Oh, today we have Senator Jim Banks in the second hour, and we've Alex Berenson in the third hour, talked us about some things. I told you guys not to worry about the hanta virus. Let me just add. The latest that I saw the reporting on this was that they think that the patient zero, I mean, the guy who might have been the first one to catch this strain of hantavirus. is an ornithologist who visited a dump in Argentina, a trash dump because there's so many birds that gather around it, but there's also a lot of mice. This is what I saw online. I don't know if this is the, you know, if this is where it's all going to end up. Remember, in the beginning of the COVID thing, they told us it was pangolin's, and we all had to look up what a pangolin was. And no, it was actually the Virus Institute down the street that was doing gain of function research, as we know, even though we were told we couldn't say that at the time. But the Hanta virus thing, I think we're going to be okay. We're very fortunate. Think about this, though. We are very fortunate that a disease that is as nasty as Hanta virus has low transmissibility. I mean, if you had Hanta virus with the transmissibility of something like measles, we would be in like a 28 days later, for those who've seen the movie, it would get really bad here. Okay, things would. We're fortunate in that sense. Don't have to spend too much time on that. I will spend some time, though, on the L.A. mayor's race. This is from... Okay, so Spencer Pratt, as we know. I never watched the show, so I feel like I missed out a little bit on some of the background here. Los Angeles and New York, we are getting simultaneously in America's two great coastal cities. And by great, I really mean like size and importance. I'm not passing a judgment on them. but the two main cities and the two biggest cities by population in the country, you are getting real-time experiments in mismanagement and how badly these places can be mismanaged and what the consequences of that may be at any given time. In New York, you have Zohran Mamdani chasing away by being a little class warfare idiot. chasing away people like Ken Griffin, the hedge fund billionaire, billionaire, and he's going to put more money into Florida now, as he should, by the way. I really appreciate that Ken Griffin isn't taking this line. I don't know the guy. It's clearly very, very smart, very successful, and rational, and I would say reasonable, and I appreciate that... He is taking action on this and not taking this lying down because he's somebody who can really teach a lesson to the communists in New York a little bit. I mean, they'll always want to steal more. They're never going to change their minds. But at least there's, we're having this conversation right now. We're having this discussion about the change in planned expenditure. from New York City because of what Zohran Mamdani did, calling out Ken Griffin, going out to where his home is and saying we're going have a special tax on this fat cat, moving is Monday, Miami. That's one version of the city mismanagement experiment.

And I'm also going to tell you this. I told this in the beginning, every person you know in New York, we have a huge audience on WOR. Thank you for listening. And our fantastic lead in, Mr. Mark Simone, Mr. New York does a great, whenever I'm a little nostalgic, a little homesick for New York, I'll listen to Mark talking about what's going on in New York right before this show. But to anyone who voted for Zohran Mamdani. the thing that they overwhelmingly seem to want is lower housing prices, and I guarantee you that won't happen. In fact, the opposite will happen. Guarantee. So they will then have to console themselves with, well, we had nice ideas, nice intentions, and the path to hell, particularly the path the communist hell is paved with supposedly good intentions. L.A. mayor's race, you're seeing some similarities popping up here with... somebody who's coming forward and just saying when I say similarities there's Ken Griffin he's the guy speaking truth on this issue he's obviously not running for mayor but then you have in LA this former reality show star which it's kind of funny former reality show star I think that used to be an epithet that the media would use like former reality show star tough to use that one these days isn't it to say that somebody can't be politically successful Pretty sure The Apprentice was a reality show, wasn't it? So you have Spencer Pratt, and not only is he doing amazing ads, and my wife makes fun of me for this, but I actually have a hummingbird feeder here, and I'm so sad with my little hummingbird feeder in Miami because I can't. I don't know where to set it up, and apparently it's very tough to get hummingbirds where I am. I'm kind of deep in the city here, and there's not, anyway, a lot of parrots that escape from people and now just keep breeding in the wild. There are parrots everywhere, green parrots. But these hummingbirds that Spencer Pratt has, if not domesticated, he certainly tamed them a bit. These videos, I thought it was all AI. It's real. It took him years, and he hand-feeds nectar that he makes himself to these hummingbirds, and the hummingbird has become his brand. This guy is a branding genius. He's doing amazing stuff. And you can tell that the system wants to mock him and ridicule him and push him aside. The Democrat left, progressive, lunatic asylum. You know, there were three stabbings. in Venice Beach in the last three days, I think it was, three stabbings. One of them was in Whole Foods in Venice Beach. Now, if you don't know much about California, a lot of you who live there know this, obviously it's on the beach, Venice Beach. There's multi, multi-million dollar homes, not just on the beach, near the beach. This is a high rent, high-cost area. People getting stabbed in the Whole Foods? That's just one example, but numerous people stabbed in a small community that's incredibly expensive to live in. And what is the answer? What do you have from the authorities? What are they going to do? Can't do more police presence? Oh, that would be bad. I want you to listen to this. This is brilliant. By accident, it's brilliant. This is an attack ad that they are running against Spencer Pratt.

To tear him down, listen in to what the Democrat left in Los Angeles thinks is an attack. Play 9. Republican Spencer Pratt is the last thing Los Angeles needs for mayor. Pratt opposes using taxpayer money to build brand new houses for our unhoused neighbors, saying it's time for the homeless to get help or get out. Pratt thinks L.A. needs thousands more police officers rather than more social workers, and Republican Spencer Pratt thinks public employee unions should have less power, not more. L.A. is on the right track and needs to stay the course. Vote no on Republican Spencer Pratt. L.A. is on the right course? That is, I mean, that is delusional. That is worthy of a manufactured delusion, the title of my book, which if you haven't gotten yet, you should get a copy of available on Amazon, manufactured delusion. No, but that really is delusional. It's crazy. L.A. is, I don't think anyone, I don't even think the Democrats who keep voting for Democrats think L.A. is on the right track. They just think if you keep doing the same thing over and over, you'll get a different result. Or you keep supporting the same thing over and over, or this is actually more the Democrat mindset. They don't even stop to think about the result. It's about the feeling they get to take the position they do in front of other people. And when they look in the mirror, that's what matters to them. It's their own positioning as a virtuous person who cares about the less fortunate. That matters to them more than people getting stabbed in Whole Foods because they refuse to enforce the law. But in that attack ad, you heard Spencer Pratt thinks, thinks. Ha, ha, ha, so silly. that we should have more cops? Yeah, they absolutely should have more cops. Spencer Pratt thinks the public sector unions should have less power. Yeah, they can strangle any politician they want to, essentially, politically. They are way too powerful. Public sector unions. These are people paid by the state, and they get to determine who runs by state, I mean, you know, the government, local government in this case of Los Angeles, but it's true, the state level as well. They get to determine how you govern. Guess what? The teachers unions always want more money, always want less work, always want more benefits. What a shock. But if you don't promise to do that and burden the taxpayers of Los Angeles with even more of those demands, they're going to come out, they're going to pick at you, they're going to do everything they can. They can use all the money that they get from their members, all the dues they collect to just destroy you. Yeah, they should have, first of all, there should be no such thing. as a public sector union for people who don't risk their lives and their employment. How about that? I'm okay with it for cops and firefighters. I don't want it for public school teachers, all right? This is crazy stuff, crazy stuff. But Spencer Pratt's doing a great, great job. I'll come back and get into some more of that here in just a minute. It's remarkable, though, to show... this guy understands narrative he understands content he understands how to pull in an audience and make the issues feel real to people because they are

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Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. All right. We appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Buck a little bit under the weather. Although we had an awesome time hanging out Saturday down in Miami with Howard Mackler of Super Shore. And I am up in D.C. today. You just heard me talking with Senator Jim Banks, the Indiana football team being honored at the White House. I will be over there. Should be quite the scene. But I wanted to give you a little bit more details about this situation in Virginia because I think it's so illustrative of what's really going to happen as soon as Democrats get back in power. And I think this is flying a little bit under the radar because it's so crazy. Even legacy media is trying to bury this. So I always like to see where stories are placed inside of the newspaper. And this morning I was flying up to... Washington, D.C., a bunch of kids, every time I take a flight from Nashville, by the way, a bunch of kids making their class trip. I believe these kids were from St. Michael. So the fifth grade from St. Michael was basically filling up my flight this morning. And good luck to all those chaperones, all those custodians, custodians chaperones, all those chaperones that are going to be getting no sleep. If any of you have kids, they go on any of these trips. In fact, my wife is with our... fifth grader they are going to tour nassah down in huntsville alabama uh today that's their trip but as we're flying in you come in land in virginia for dc and all the kids are super excited to uh to be here and you get off you get in your car and you head to dc come over the potomac so northern virginia has taken over the whole state of virginia It really, Northern Virginia is basically D.C. extended. In fact, there is an argument that historically Alexandria of Virginia should be included in the initial footprint of Washington, D.C. And if they took Northern Virginia out of Virginia... Virginia would be not dissimilar very much to a Tennessee, a West Virginia, a North Carolina. It would be very much more like most of the southern states. And that's why it's six to five. That's why there are six Democrat districts and five Republican districts in Virginia, a state that Kamala Harris only won by five points. And if you talk to the Trump political team, they will tell you if they had had Kamala Harris level money, they would have won Virginia and they would have won New Jersey.

Because they lost both by about five points. If they had had an extra billion dollars like Kamala Harris did, they could have poured that money into even more states. They feel like they could have made a play in Virginia, New Jersey, and New Mexico, which I believe were the next three closest states in terms of Democrat wins. Why do I bring all that up? They see it. They feel the pressure. That's a purple state, but they tried to turn it into a 10 to 1 state. And when they tried to turn it into a 10 to 1 state to their credit, the Virginia Supreme Court said, no, no, no, no, that violates the Virginia Constitution. You can't do this. Over the weekend, so we're going to stick with the 6-5 map. Over the weekend, Virginia... is now talking about firing all seven of the Virginia Supreme Court justices. How are they going to do that? They are saying that they are going to implement new age requirements for the justices and force them all. and to retirement. And you're like, okay, well, how old are the justices? What would the new age requirements be? They were going to lower the age requirement for retirement from 75 to 54. 20 plus years so they could wipe out all seven of the Supreme Court justices in Virginia. This is radical. This is crazy stuff. And again, they buried it in the back of the New York Times because I think even the New York Times saw this story and heard about it and wrote about it and they thought, man, this is pretty nasty politics stuff. You're going to fire every one of the existing Supreme Court justices. By the way, 55 is a pretty young retirement age. I don't know. I know I'm getting older. But when I, I'm 47, when I hear people are retiring at 55, good for you if that's what you want to do. But mandatory 55 year old retirement age? But don't mistake what's also going on. They are sending the message if you cross us, we're coming after you with a 2 by 4. We are not letting you cross us and get away with it. We are going to mandatory retire you. Now, look, you might say 75 feels a little bit too old to me, Clay, to be a Supreme Court justice in Virginia. And I might or might not agree. There's a wide variety of 75-year-old intellectual capabilities in the legal profession. I don't really like mandatory retirement ages because everybody ages at different times. And by the way, people should be able to make their own choices. Not everybody is Joe Biden when they're 80. There's a lot of 80-year-olds. My father-in-law, 80 years old still doing downhill ski racing. Just had his 80th birthday recently.

I can't come down the hill fast. The guy's flying left and right. He's in an incredible shape. So everything is different. Everybody age is different. Everybody's mind gets bigger, better, worse ages. Everything, right, can go on. But to knock it back by 20 years? It's crazy talk. And you might say, well, why do I care that much, Clay, about Virginia? And I would say, well, you should care. because a four-seat swing there might be the difference about who's in control of the House. And if you care about who's in control of the House of Representatives for the final two years of Trump, which I think most of you do, that's pretty significant. But I think the even more significant, as you heard me talk about with Senator Jim Banks here in the studio just a little bit ago, the even more significant part of this is the precedent that it sets going forward. If they are willing to fire seven Supreme Court justices, over a map that only cost them four congressional seats what are they going to do if they ever take back control of the house in the senate and the white house altogether which they will and this is why i say republicans are being played for fools here because republicans are sitting around saying well we're not going to change the rules And President Trump is 100% right about this. As soon as Democrats have the potential ability to have power, that filibuster is gone. They're going to expand the Supreme Court. They're going to try to add Washington, D.C., potentially as a state. They're going to do, they might try and add any number of additional other states that they feel like could benefit them. They're going to change the census rules. I'm telling you, I don't really understand what the Republican move is here. Power is rare. It can be fleeting in America. To me, we should be doing everything we can to try to ensure free and fair elections while we can. And there is a slow rolling panic that is setting in in the Democrat Party. You say, okay, what's their motivation? Why would they be so desperate to go ahead and wipe out seven Supreme Court justices and start that pathway in the pursuit of power? Guys, people are moving out of blue states in unbelievable numbers. And they are looking at a freight train when it comes to the 2030 census. I live in Tennessee. Buck lives in Florida. Our biggest state by listeners right now, Texas. Red states are thriving. The population is surging. Supreme Court just said we can't have racial gerrymandering. In the future, I think we're moving towards an era where a lot of reasonable Americans are going to say, why are we counting illegal immigrants for purposes of congressional apportionment? Everybody should be a citizen in the United States to be counted.

And Democrats are looking at what they used to think was a blue wall in Pennsylvania, in Michigan, and in Wisconsin. They lost all three of those in 16. They lost all three of those in 24. And the scary thing is, in 32... Even if Democrats win all three of those states, they still won't have enough electoral college support to be able to elect the president. Remember, Kamala Harris only lost by about 230,000 votes. That's about how many votes would have needed to flip and change in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. So yes, Trump won the popular vote. Yes, he won all seven swing states. But if Kamala Harris had won Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin, she would have gotten to 270. They're looking several years ahead and they're thinking to themselves, wait a minute, if we don't win Congress in 26 or 28, we have no hope once it gets to 2030, we're potentially going to be staring down the barrel of perpetual minority status in terms of power in... the House and the Senate because of the redesigned and redrawn overall maps. That's scary. And so they are behaving in a radical fashion while they can. They desperately have to win in 28 because if they want to put any laws in place to try to protect themselves, once we get to 2030, I think the math, at least as the Democrat Party is currently existing, which is we got out in California a dude pretending to be a chick winning all these championships. As long as the Democrat Party is saying, hey, we believe men who pretend to be women are just as much of women as actual women. And as long as they have the radical policies, I just think that's representative of a crazy radical policy that dudes, white, black, Asian, Hispanic just say, I'm not, we can't have this. I'm not going to stand for it. Understand where they are looking and what their goal is. It's a desperation. They are backed into a corner. Firing seven justices in order to get your way is a crazy perspective to adopt, but that is where they are. And you need to understand anybody who's ever tried to chase down any kind of cornered animal, that's when it gets dangerous. That's the desperate dire straits that Democrats find themselves in right now. We'll take some of your calls, 800, 282-282. We'll get some of your talkbacks as well. Our friend, Alex Berenson, going to join us at the next hour. This is a scary study out of the Washington Post. I say scary study. A lot of you are going to say, yeah, I totally buy that that's how crazy they've gotten. You know, 42% of all Democrat voters, nearly half, they believe that the Butler, Pennsylvania assassination attempt was staged. They also believe the White House Correspondents dinner, last time I was in D.C., that shooting was staged, and that the would-be assassin in West Palm Beach, that that shooting was also staged.

They don't believe that anybody's actually trying to kill President Trump. That's scary. We'll talk about it with Alex Berenson when at the top of the next hour, but I'll take some of your calls and some of your talkbacks bottom of this hour, but I want to tell you. Right now, 25th anniversary of 9-11 moving closer and closer. 2001, I was living in Washington, D.C. I was about to start law school, and I had just gotten into law school when one of those planes flew into the Pentagon here in D.C. And I remember coming back to visit Friends in September, and you could stand on the roof of some of the dormitories here at George Washington University in D.C. And you could see all that smoke coming from the Pentagon for weeks. That's how long it took to get all the fires stopped inside of the Pentagon. It's now been 25 years nearly. 9-11 will be the 25th anniversary since that happened. Many of you listening right now, W-O-R area. Still sends chills down your spine to think about 9-11 in the experience that you guys had with the Twin Towers. Some of you listening in Pennsylvania, Shanksville, PA, you've been to that memorial. You listen to us talk just recently with Frank Siller, who's doing incredible work. They've continued to support everybody. law enforcement, first responders, everybody out there who is putting their lives on the line for us. And among those individuals, Anthony Vargas. Anthony enlisted in the Army after 9-11, he served honorably dreamed of one day serving in the NYPD 2. But while on deployment, Anthony was killed instantly when an LED detonated near his unit. He left behind his wife Louisa, their children, and his siblings. And this 25th anniversary, year we remember anthony's service sacrifice and the lasting impact of america's darkest day tunnel the towers honored his memory by paying off the vargas family's mortgage giving his family a stable forever home help more families like the vargas is your donation today can make a world of difference bringing hope and security to those who gave everything Donate $11 a month and amplify your impact with a car or land donation. Go to t2t.org. That's t, the number two t.org. Miss the show while you're on the go. Wind down your day with the daily review podcast. Find it on the IHard Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back in. Hour number three, Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show. We hope all of you had fantastic weekends. And I don't think I said it yet today's show. I know we said it going into the weekend. Happy belated Mother's Day to all of the awesome moms out there.

Credit to my wife, Laura, who had her mom and my mom over to the Travis Residence, and we had an awesome time. I know there are tons of great moms out there listening, tons of great grandmas out there listening, so thanks for all that you guys do to help make this country, this spectacular place that it is. We bring in now, hopefully a man, because I know he has young kids. Alex, were you on top of Mother's Day? Because I told Buck this, and I'm sure you had to learn it too. I had no idea what I was signing up for. I knew I was responsible for my own mom, Mother's Day. Make sure that I say thank you to her for being such a great mom. But when you start having kids... It turns out that the young kids aren't able to thank mom. And so you, even though she is not your mom, you are suddenly doing double duty where you got to thank your own wife for being a great mom on behalf of kids that can't do it yet, especially young kids when it's the most challenging of all times to be mom. And you still got your own mom. Were you aware for what you were signing up for? Because you got a bunch of young kids too. No, I did learn that a few years ago, the hard way. But now my oldest is 13, and so, you know, and, you know, she's very on top of things. And so, no, we got it done. It was a successful Mother's Day. All right, successful Mother's Day, successful Monday. I am reading from your substack right now, urgent, a huge win in Barensen v. Biden. And I'm reading from what you just posted. Today, the Trump administration, and I settled the federal government's role in Berenson versus Biden, your lawsuit. After three hard-fought years, statement includes a six-figure payment, and the government said, that the government did in fact violate the First Amendment by exerting substantial coercive pressure on social media companies such as Twitter to suppress disfavored speech like plaintiffs. Okay, this is something we've been talking about with you for three plus years. You were one of the first guests we ever had in studio on this program five some odd years ago when Buck and I started. fill in people who may have forgotten or may not have been aware about this lawsuit and what the result that you just announced means. Sure. So, you know, I don't want to, and stop me if I get too deep into the weeds here because I tend to do that with this because so much to happen. But, you know, 2020, 2021, I'm a pretty loud voice. on what was then Twitter about, you know, being anti-lockdown, being anti-pro reopening schools, anti-masking kids, all that stuff in 20th. All of the things, by the way, that we were saying, Buck and I were saying that.

Almost, you were saying, we had very little support back in the day compared to today when everybody's like, oh, yeah, I always knew shutting down schools was dumb and that mask made no sense. Sorry to cut you off. But we were in the wilderness a bit five, six years ago with these arguments. It was a sharply dislike position. And in 2021, you know, I started raising questions about the MRI and COVID vaccines. And Twitter, by the way, had said to me in 2020, was there the last gasp of free speech Twitter with Jack Dorsey had said, hey, you know, we usually like it that you're raising these issues. And so then in 2021, it got really hot because I was talking about the MRNAs. And I think even people on the right at first were a little, you know, they were a little taken in by the, you know, this is going to end COVID. And these are the greatest, you know, this is like the greatest medical advance of all time. And we're all going to live forever if we just take MRI. I mean, I'm only exaggerating slightly. That was pretty much the tone. Even people who had some questions about the MRAs were kind of like, let's do this and we'll satisfy the, you know, the people on the left who were screaming about it. Meanwhile, Pfizer was making like $100 billion, no exaggeration. selling these. That's what they made in 2021, 2022. And so there's a lot of, you know, a lot of business pressure, a lot of even more societal pressure, media pressure, political pressure. And, and, and in the summer of 2021, Twitter started to crack down on me, even though I wasn't saying anything, you know, that was not true, anything I didn't have science to back. And in August of 2021, and my audience is only getting bigger, by the way, by. I, in 2021, had two billion impressions from my tweets in the first few months that I was on. And then abruptly in August 2021, they banned me. Okay. And I was like, this is wrong. Like, oh, and the other thing you've got to remember, and maybe people do, maybe people don't, was August and September, even though the vaccines had come out earlier, were really the peak months. The fall of 2021 was the peak of societal pressure. Why? Because the vaccines had already started to stop working by then. And so the Biden administration did two things in response to that. It said, hey, we want to mandate these through employers for healthy adults. And they were very aggressive about that. And the other thing is they said to everybody, we want you to get boosters. We know we told you, you know, two shots is going to work and it's going to last the lifetime or, you know, it's going to last a long time because that's what vaccines do. We were wrong. We want you to get boosters. And I was like, I mean, I don't think I'm exaggerating. I was maybe R of K too, but like I was one of the top couple of voices saying what is going on here. This is this is not what we're promised and there's this myocarditis issue. And we really need to think about this. And I got banned.

And so in 2022, I sued Twitter. And everyone said, all these people on the left said, oh, you don't have a chance. You're wasting, you know, money for people who donated to you for this. You're just being a jerk. There's something called Section 230. And that says that Twitter can do whatever it wants on this platform. Forget it. Well, guess what? Even though I had to sue in San Francisco, federal judge, who was appointed by Clinton, really good guy, said, hey, this guy actually got promises from Twitter in 2020 that he could talk. And all he was doing was talking. And I think the Twitter broke its contract with him. And that was a huge win. It's the first time ever that anybody was able to sue for being thrown off a platform and even have a prayer of getting back on. Twitter then settles with me. And in their settlement in 2022, they hand over. They handed the document to me. Sorry. No, I thought we lost you there for a sec. So Alex Barrensen on with us. Okay, let me just kind of cut into. Cut to the chase here. Yeah, cut to the chase. So they have settled. They have given you a six-figure payment. They have admitted that the Biden administration behaved inappropriately when it came to this. Here's my question for you. Do you think that what has happened to you? Because you and I and Buck were all very big in the opinion that the government should not be serving opinions out there, particularly private actor opinions like yours on private platforms, right? Is that have lasting precedent or would the Biden administration just do all over again what it did to you if in the future, maybe it's going to be this hanta virus, we end up in a situation with another pandemic like situation going forward. Do you think there's a precedent that stands out here that is going to be protective in any way of you? Or do you think people who know better will run and hide when it comes to actually standing up for free? speech in a time, I would argue it matters more than any other, which is a time of crisis. So that's a great question. And I would say that you're kind of asking two questions and one there. Question one, is there a legal precedent here? And the answer, unfortunately, is no, not, there's not, okay? What I may be able to get to, and again, I don't want to delve too deep in the case. My lawsuit, I'm still going forward. I'm still doing Pfizer because what I learned when I settled with Twitter and what the Twitter files showed and then what more documents that Elon Musk provided, and I'm very thankful to Elon Musk.

His lawyers provided in 2024 showed clearly that Pfizer, which is a private company, obviously, was working with the government to get me kicked off. And to me, that's a huge scandal. Okay. Okay. So let me follow up on that. Are you going to be continuing your lawsuit? I think I know the answer based on reading your substack. You are going to be continuing your lawsuit against Pfizer, correct? Correct. Correct. And so maybe I'll get more documents that will show just how much collusion there was. That said, If we want to change this in the future, there really has to be some laws passed that will more clearly state what the government can and can't do in its interactions with these social media companies. And ideally, there'll be something passed that will make it possible when your rights are violated this way. And this is something that I would hope the left would agree, too. If your First Amendment rights or your bill of rights, constitutional rights are violated by the federal government, you should be able to sue them and get money damages. And right now you really can't do that. It's very, very, very hard to do that, which is one reason that my lawsuit didn't go forward the way I hoped it would against the federal government, and we settled it. So the settlement kind of protects the federal government in this way. So that is like, so that's the question about the law. Okay, the question about whether or not people will stand up, that's, I hope people will stand up. And I hope the fact that Elon Musk now owns X. And it's pretty clear he's not going to buckle to pressure to suppress people talking about vaccines or whatever. Alex, can you get a really good thing? Can you stick with us? Come back because there's a couple other questions I want to hit you with. All right. We're going to ask Alex about the crazy number of conspiracy theories that have now emerged on the left. I also want to get a quick answer from him on the backside here. How dangerous are the COVID shots looking now that we're having a longer runway for those? and more. We will get to that maybe about the new Haanta virus, too. I don't know if he's dove into that one yet, as there's some nervousness emanating associated with that. But I want to tell you all out there, if you are nervous about your kids, maybe being out and about, maybe they're finishing off high school, maybe they're going off to college, maybe they are just working late nights in restaurants or shopping districts, or maybe they just drive through regularly areas of that have you a little bit nervous. This is a great product. And I think it is super cool. And I would encourage all of you to look this up and go get it yourself like I have. There is a Sabre Smart Pepper Spray. It's available on Amazon so you can use your usual Amazon accounts. This is a small handheld device. You can keep it in a purse, a backpack, even your pocket. Cool thing about it. If it is used, it immediately notifies up to five different people and shares your location. In other words, if your loved one is in danger such that they feel neat, that they need to use this pepper spray, you get an alert. It lets you know exactly where they are. How spectacular is that for those of us out there who may be worried about family members? Maybe it's your elderly parents. Maybe it's your young kids. Heck, maybe it's your wife, your girlfriend.

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I don't think so. I don't think he's going to be charged. You know, we talked about this a little bit two weeks ago. And I don't think he's going to be charged. And I think I've come around to the idea he probably shouldn't be charged because it might make some people who really hate him happy, but he will just add to this perception that, you know, he's 84, 85 years old, and he's being pursued and it's not fair. And, you know, and a lot of people really like him. So, you know, honestly, like... If you're interested in getting some justice here, you should hope my lawsuit goes forward. Okay, you should hope that I get some information from Pfizer because that would be helpful. Okay, I'm going to ask a combo question here for you. 42% of Democrats believe that the shooting at Butler, Pennsylvania was staged, also high percentages on the White House correspondence dinner shooting, and also the West Palm Beach attempted assassination. Now there is a new hauntavirus outbreak on a cruise ship. I'm going to let you just kind of dive into the conspiracy era that now exists out there, and how much do you believe it is directly connected to so many of the conspiracies? in quotation marks about COVID having been proven true. Yeah, I mean, I think we talked about this two weeks ago, too. You're absolutely right. Because, you know, we relied to that this couldn't possibly be a lab leak. We relied to that masks would, you know, help. And we had to close schools. And we relied to that, you know, two shots of this MRNA and you'll never, you know, you'll never get COVID in the rest of your life. All is the proves not to be true. And it was a real, you know, mistake by the scientific establishment, and they've not dealt with it. They've, you know, a little bit around the edges. And so I think it's created this space that, you know, the people on the left and, you know, some on the right are filling with, with nonsense that gets them followers and is very profitable for them. And it's a problem. You know, I noticed in your promo, you had something saying, you know, like, listen to us. Don't, you know, if you want something real, and I think hopefully your voice and voices like yours win. I like to think that's true. Our audience has skyrocketed. I mean, we got 600 AMFM affiliates. We keep setting records. We've got satellite radio now. I think it's because sanity is so rare that there are a lot of people out there that just want to have measured reasonable common sense. And I'll mention this to you, Alex. When we had you on back in July of 2021, there were so many people angry that we had you on to talk. You remember this. We had you in studio in New York. to talk about the fact that the COVID shot was not working like they said it, and people were so angry about it. Now, five years later, a lot of people just want to pretend this never happened. Yeah, you're right. I mean, and I do think people like you, people like me, I mean, my audience is a fraction of yours and unreported truth, but it's a strong audience. And those.

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Survell, and I may or may not be pronouncing that name correctly, has ruled out forced retirement of Virginia Supreme Court justices saying that it would be too extreme. Now, that is Virginia State Democrats. So they are saying, Hakeem Jeffries, your plan to fire all seven Supreme Court justices in Virginia in order to get redistricting through, according to this report, the head of the state Senate. is saying no, he's drawing the line on firing all seven of those individuals. Another storyline that I think ties in here. We've been talking there's very positive news, very positive news that almost no one is covering that I wanted to hit with you. And I flagged this and I shared it on social media. Homicide rates. Quarter one of 2026 is now complete. I talked about this the last time I was in Washington, D.C. Washington, D.C. way safer, not just Washington. So in 2025, I saw that FBI director Kash Patel shared my tweet on this. This is from Axios. Murder rate declines compared to last year. Remember, 2025 lowest murder rate nationwide. in the history of any of our lives, going all the way back to 1900, never has the United States had a lower murder rate. We're into 2026. Listen to this. Baltimore. Murders are down in Baltimore, 83% over last year. This is a record scratch numbers. I want you to listen to these. Suffolk County, New York, that is Long Island, I believe the team can correct me if I'm wrong, just outside of New York City murders down 73% there. Omaha, Nebraska, KFAB listeners, murders down 71% in Omaha, Nebraska. Buffalo, New York, murders down 70%. This is compared to last year when we set record lows, guys. Aurora, Colorado, suburb outside of Denver, down 66.7%. That was an area, remember, with a high rate of illegal immigration. If you remember, Aurora was one of those places that had illegal immigrant gangs taking over. Newark, New Jersey, a lot of you listening, W-O-R, down 66.7%. Washington, D.C., where I am sitting talking to all of you right now, down 64.7% compared to last year. Again, these are numbers compared to last year. Raleigh, North Carolina, down 63.6%.

Portland down 63.6%, Portland, Oregon, and Philadelphia down 54%. My goodness, that's extraordinary. Now, everything is not perfect. We can still do better. This happened over the weekend. I bet the New York City crew saw this. Buck and I, we should talk about it tomorrow when he's back in studio with me. This is a daily mail headline. New York City woman declined to press charges against a subway shover, quote, because she didn't want to put another black man in jail. Weeks later, her subway shover shoved another person, and that man, 76 years old, a retired teacher, has now died. I think this is an awful story, but it's also an important one. It is not kind to your fellow citizens to refuse to prosecute people for violence because you're concerned about the race of the person that has done a violent act to you. In fact, data reflects that almost all the time a person who engages in an act of violence will engage in an act of violence against someone else. And if you are concerned about the racial impact of your testimony or your prosecution as a witness of an individual, understand this. overwhelmingly people commit crimes against people of their own race. This is just true statistically. So if you are worried, hey, if I speak out up against this Hispanic guy, His victims are likely to be Hispanic. If you're worried about speaking out against an Asian person or a white person or a black person, the victim, the next victim of that individual is likely to be the same race as them. Look, black, white, Asian, Hispanic. It is not kind. to refuse to prosecute someone because you're concerned about how long someone might be behind bars. In fact, if you want to be empathetic, you should be empathetic forward-linking, forward thinking because the individuals will be victimized in the future because you have failed to act. So this is an example of toxic left-wing empathy. Democrats in particular and leftists have convinced people, oh, it's unkind to be angry or to seek some sort of penalty against someone for committing a crime.

This really kind of took off as a worldview in 2020 where suddenly, hey, just let them steal. That's why there's insurance. Just let them burn things down. That's why there's insurance. If somebody comes into your house, remember that article in San Francisco and steals something? You should just let them have it. You shouldn't call police because police are then going to have to incarcerate someone and they might be a minority and that is unfortunate and you would then be the reason that someone was put into prison or put into jail. Here's the reality. The toxic empathy, if you want to use it, use your empathy to think about future criminal victims. That one, I mean, this is a crazy story. You got shoved on a subway platform. You, by the grace of God, were not injured. That woman decided, I don't want to do this because the guy who shoved me was black. I'm afraid about, oh, what's the toxic impact of mass incarceration? So she doesn't prosecute to the full extent of the law. She doesn't want to be a witness. She doesn't want to cooperate with authorities. And now a 76-year-old retired teacher is dead. There is a direct relationship between failure to put bad guys in prison and future rates of violent crime. You asked me, I just gave you all those good news in cities. Why is that happening? I think it's two reasons. One is, I think, under Trump, we are letting cops do their job and prosecutors and judges. and district attorneys, they are all working together more so than in the past to put violent people in prison and keep them there. I think that is happening more often, not as much as it should, but more often than it was. That's point one. Point two, we've got way less illegal immigrants. We just do. And when you have less illegal immigrants, it allows police, not every illegal immigrant as a criminal, but a lot of them are per capita because they tend to be young men. And if you ask me right now, as the data would reflect, who is the most likely to engage in violent acts? It is young men. Young men, you go 15 to 45, basically, 15 to 45 year old young men are the people who commit the vast majority of crimes in this country. Doesn't mean there's not some women out there. Engaging in violent acts just means the likelihood. is young men. Most of our illegal immigrants as a group are young men. And so when you have a lot of young men who are violent being taken out of your country, fleeing the country because they know they're going to be caught and prosecuted, I think it's not a coincidence that both of those things suddenly you're seeing crime collapse. And I would add a third factor. Being willing to accept crime is unkind and many of us are just fed up. This is the entire basis largely of Spencer Pratt's campaign as mayor in Los Angeles. And I'm going to talk about that a bit when we come back, but let me play this audio for all of you out in L.A.

Magic Johnson, great, great basketball player. One of the greatest basketball players of all time. Not a great judge of political performance. He says Karen Bass is doing a tremendous job and he just endorsed her. Listen. He's on supporting Karen Bass. First of all, I go back with her probably 30 years. She sustained the first ever, the second of decrease in homelessness. Homicide rate is down. New housing units, 40,000. I mean, she's doing a tremendous job. Karen Bass has to have a second term, and I'm excited to say that. Yeah. Appreciate you magic. Great basketball player. Karen Bass, not a good mayor. I think she has a 25% approval rating in L.A. right now. So I want to make sure I included that. This is Spencer Pratt's entire campaign. There's too much filth. There's too much violence. There's too much inefficiency in government. I'm going to clean it up. That's his entire campaign. And he's getting a lot of support across the political spectrum because people are tired of taking their kids to different playgrounds and seeing filth, seeing drug use, seeing all sorts of violence on the streets. The quality of life in L.A. has declined precipitously. There's way too many homeless people. There's way too many drugs. I don't even see that as particularly partisan at all. We should have less of it in every city in America. President Trump has focused on it here in D.C. D.C. is safer. more beautiful than it has been maybe ever in the history of 250 years of this country existing. I'm not sure that D.C. has ever been safer than it is right now. All right. We come back. We'll take some more of your talkbacks. Finish up the show. Then I'll head over to the White House. You should have some good reports from there tomorrow. This is the Clay and Buck Show. And I want to tell all of you out there, make sure. If you're out there and you're looking around and you're thinking, hey, what's a reliable place to have money? How can I protect myself against the government printing so much money against the overall rates of inflation? It's gold. Gold has been growing in value for thousands and thousands of years. Two years ago grew by 27% in value. Last year, gold went up 65%. Over the past two decades, it's up 700%. If you have an IRA or a 401k, gold should be included in it. Not only going to grow higher in value in the face of continued inflation, a federal budget deficit and central banks worldwide have created... all sorts of dynamics to increase the value of gold. Again, gold is a limited commodity. It's had value all the way back to all of human history, and it continues to have a great deal of value. Right now, Birch Gold is giving a first-time gold buyer a rebate of up to $10,000 on qualifying purchases for details. And a free information kit, just text my name, Clay, to 9-8-9-98. That's 9-9-8-8.

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