Hour 2 - Have You Followed This True Crime?

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that what Hamas did wasn't just a terrorist attack. It wasn't just a war crime. It was truly crimes against humanity and our most basic decency. And this should be a part of any discussion about Israel and its actions in Gaza. Well, we'll get into all this. And also Nicholas Christoph, the New York Times writer, who I've always thought is a smug, slimy, and vile propagandist. I do not respect him or his work. He does, he just carries the water for the left in every way that he can any time that he can. And he wraps himself and caring about women and the underprivilege and the dispossess. But really, he just is like a might as well just be a Soros operative. He, uh, He put something out there on the same day that this report came out that we should discuss, and it's preposterous. But it's really a blood libel, too. It's meant to be so incendiary as to distract us from what is true and what has really happened there. Clay, I did want to return us for a second because we had a call or a moment ago, and I thought people would want us to at least handle this assertion. First of all, he has great taste in radio. He was saying, fabulous job, the two most well-informed people that he listens to on the radio. This is a man of high IQ and exceptional taste. So I wanted to respect our caller's key point here beyond him saying very true and very, very wise things about this program. He said that it was an intentional release. I am not. I'm 100% that the virus came from the Wuhan Lab. And just to be clear, I was one of those people very early on. But I was also somebody who thought we should reopen and just go about our lives and try to just give as much care to the elderly as we could by Easter of 2020. That's who I was on all this. Easter of 2020, I was like, yeah. And I also thought masks were stupid the entire time, the entire time, because it made no sense. So I'm that guy. Just to give a little bit of my bonafides there, okay? I'm the, and you know, Clay, we still have, I know you had Barents and on Monday. We still respect. Some people seem to have forgotten about the role that Alex played and all that. Alex Berenson. I still, and we still have a tremendous amount of respect for what he did because he provided a lot of the necessary data analysis for us to fight back against the madness at a time when there were very few people willing to do that. Okay, that's all one way of saying. I don't understand why it would have been released intentionally by China or by, I don't, I don't, looking at it purely from motivation, why would they do that? Do you see, I think it was, by the way, a super contagious virus accidentally leaking from a lab in China. I mean, that's not even, that doesn't seem like a stretch at all, right? This stuff is they're made to be communicable. It's made to be something that goes quickly from person to person in the air. You can't see it, right? Do you think it was intentional? I'm open to being persuaded on this. I don't understand why they would have done that. It affected China just like it affected all the rest of us. Yeah. So I think of everything probabilistically like this. I think there is a world where some malactor could have intentionally decided, hey, I want this to go out there. I want there to be intentionally a negative outcome from this leaking.

So I wouldn't discount that. I don't see a direct benefit of why China would have intentionally leaked it unless, and again, I understand why so many people go down conspiracy rabbit holes, Buck, because when the conspiracy ends up being right as often as it was during COVID, then I understand why there's a deep suspicion and a susceptibility for conspiracies to spread. The only real argument I've seen that would make any sense is that China wanted to undercut Trump. The United States was roaring in February and January of 2020. Trump was coming into his full fruition economically. I think Trump, if COVID never happens, I think Trump wins reelection easily. And that somehow China decided we're going to disrupt the entire world and we're going to intentionally leak COVID into the global economy. I don't find that to be likely. But if it were going to be an argument of it being an intentional lab leak, that's the only real motivation that I could see made sense from a Chinese perspective. But I think the most likely outcome is it leaked and then they covered it up and Anthony Fauci completely panicked because he knew that American tax dollars had been used to help fund the gain of function research and that they immediately tried to put in the code red. This is to kill this story. This is where Anthony Fauci, to your point, Buck, not only do I think he was a malignant force inside of government. He was the highest paid and one of the longest tenured figures in all of our government. Which is highly suspicious. Just to tell you this right now. When you were the single most overpaid federal government employee. something's up like i don't i just don't trust you i don't care who you are okay when you're making more than double what the president makes and you're not he wasn't even that people always think he was the head clay of n i h the cdc he was the head of naiad which was like a sub unit of n i how does this guy the highest paid guy ever some people and you've got people who work at your uh at your place of employment who do this aren't really great at their jobs, but they're really good at manipulating the bureaucracy. Getting that next promotion, 100%. By the way, it's Clay. This is a plague within the federal bureaucracy. The worst people, look at James Comey, look at Brennan, look at these people, look at Anthony Fauci, look at these people that have made their way to the top of these bureaucracies. They're not smart. They're not good at their jobs. And yet they wield enormous power. The best people that I knew, with some exceptions, but the best people that I knew within the CIA, and they know this too. They all leave, and this is going to sound self-congratulatory or like, oh, I was one of them, but everyone leaves Clay five to seven years in.

Because you just get burned out over the bureaucracy and the half of it and how hard it is to do anything. Yeah. After five of you're like, I've done some cool stuff, but I've been ground down by the stupid bureaucracy and the idiots who run the security office here, who all they do is harass people and they never catch the actual spies. And I'm just done with it. five to seven years. I can still go to grad school. I could still start a new job. I could, you know, that's the, that's the, and I don't know, some people will tell me that they've seen that in their own bureaucracies within the government, but I can tell you in the intelligence community, 100% the case. What I will say, I appreciate our caller on this front. So I don't think, so I think Anthony Fauci immediately knew how to manipulate the levers of government. I knew how he knew how to grease bureaucracy. Remember, he had a great deal of power over federal funds, the distribution of them to so many different organizations. And so he had manipulated all that. He had a crew that he could help cover it up. Let me just say this, though. I simultaneously do not. judge anyone who believes that it was an intentional leak and I understand skepticism over it because there is so much that we were told about COVID we can run through 20 things probably Buck where you and I were out there saying I don't know You know, like remember we played the clip when suddenly even on the left, it was John Stewart who went on with Stephen Colbert and he ridiculed the idea that this was anything other than a lab leak. And suddenly everyone in that Stephen Colbert audience who had been hectoring and lecturing all of us for saying, hey, I'm not sure the official narrative lines up. They were laughing along with John Stewart as he punctured the absurdity of the series of stories that they had bought, which were all untrue. And so I think that whole era, there were so many lies told that I understand why anyone would think there are additional lies being told and why there are additional story angles. that we haven't gotten to the bottom of. I just want to note, you know, if someone calls in, even if they're an esteemed and appreciated listener, which all of you are, and they say something that I truly think is just wrong or incorrect, we'll say so. We're not always right. I mean, we're pretty much always right, but we're not always right. But we would say, or I would say, and you would say, respectively, no, I'm sorry, I think that that's wrong or that's incorrect. I'm not saying the gentleman who called in is wrong. I'm just saying I'm not there on the analysis. I'm open to the possibility.

You know, I am absolutely there, as I think everybody is, that it came from that lab, obviously. I still think it's more likely than not that it was an accidental release than it was an intentional release because the motivations to me still go for door number one and not door number two. But, you know, I'm open to being persuaded otherwise. That's where I would put that. And as for Anthony Fauci, It's just amazing when you go back and read all the propaganda about this guy early on because I think people forget Trump had to look to this guy and look to the health bureaucracies early on with the idea that, come on, we're all on the same team here. Like we just don't want people getting sick. We don't want things to happen that are terrible in society. This isn't a partisan moment, right? Wrong. That was, I think, one of the big. misapprehensions early on and I think that Trump which is I don't blame him for this and that's why I hate this thing they do by the way Clay they'll say Well, Trump shut down school. The Trump did this. It's like, what you did in April or May of 2020 versus what was done a year later by Biden are night and day in terms of the data, what we had seen, what we had been through, what we had learned, all this other stuff. And they always intentionally conflate this. Trump looked to the health bureaucracies early on when we were told that in Italy people were all on ventilators and everyone's dying and this is so terrible and what are we going to do? And Anthony Fauci was clearly a partisan actor who at the first opportunity started to undermine and eventually betray Donald Trump. Now people said he should have fired Anthony Fauci. Well, that would have just created the, that would have been the James Comey Martyr Complex on steroids. It would have been, he got rid of the top health guy during a pandemic. So Trump was in an impossible position with that early on. I think that's a fair way to grade what was happening there. And I spoke to Trump in the Oval Office in May of 2020 about COVID mostly, also about CIA stuff, but mostly about COVID. And he said, look, we're going to let states. He wanted to let the federal system play, a federalist system play out where states could do things and then we could compare the data. And I think that that was a very sound approach to it early on. And yet, the health bureaucrats effectively seize the narrative and sees control. And I think they helped deliver the election to Biden. Two things. One, your point on deferring to federalism. There's never a time when someone could have taken over. Look at what Biden did a year later. More dictatorial powers than Trump had the opportunity to take on in the spring of 2020 and the summer of 2020. And he mostly deferred to individual states and mayors.

Two, this, I'm going to go back to the caller, this is the other part of the timing that I think is suspect. And this is why I said, one, if China had done it intentionally, it would be designed for Trump. The fact that it, to harm him in a political election year, the fact that COVID hit in the spring of a presidential election year was also the worst possible time for COVID to hit. By which I mean, if COVID hits in 21, after Trump has won re-election, I think there is far less insanity. If COVID hits in 22, even though it's a midterm election, far less insanity. If COVID hits in 23, far less insanity. The fact that it hit in the spring of an election year when Trump was cruising to re-election, and it led to, and I always feel like I need to put it in quotation marks, 81 million votes for Joe Biden. And even Democrats are starting to look around. Even the most strident, oh, anti-Trump Democrats, Buck, they're starting to look at that 81 million in the wake of this past election compared to Obama in 12, compared to how people voted in 16. There's no one, I think, with a functional brain that believes that Joe Biden got 81 million legal votes at this point. The math, it's like steroids in baseball when you had guys who used to hit 20 home runs and then one year they hit 50 and you looked at a picture of them and you said, boy, they put a lot of muscle on in the off season. Biden 2020 was for elections what steroids was to baseball. He cheated. uh there's not 81 million real votes out there now what exactly is that number i think even democrats are starting to look around i don't think they'll get to 81 million votes in 2028 let's remind everyone that what you just said now clay i don't think it will now but a couple of years ago that would have gotten this this bounced off of uh youtube Yeah. Our clip would be removed from YouTube. They removed an interview we did with the former president from YouTube over election stuff. Remember that? Oh, yeah. They took Rand Paul interview. YouTube took a Rand Paul interview about COVID off with us. And they took the former president of the United States. They would not allow us to post our president Trump interview. This show was censored to the point where we had a sitting senator and a former and future president not allowed to say what they wanted to say. And we were pulled off the biggest platform, video platform online. It tells you a lot. Look, Patton will forever be remembered for leading from the front. I'm reading all about World War II right now. Soldier's idea of a general, men fought hard for him because he fought hard himself. That's a pretty good quotes out there, too. Colorful language. It's foolish and wrong. As we come up on Memorial Day weekend, it's foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died, he said. Rather, we should thank God that such men lived. This Memorial Day honored the legacy of our men and women left behind, remember their courage, reflect on their sacrifice, and recognize the responsibility that comes with the freedom they secured for all of us. Citizenship in this country shouldn't be passive. It certainly wasn't in Patton's time. It's not just about the rights we enjoy. It's about the duty we care to enjoy them, a duty to our country, to our communities, and to each other.

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Oh, yeah. Did you know, they came out with a, I guess it's a biopic, right? It would be the way that it's described. And it's the number one movie in America. It's everywhere. So I don't think, now, R. Kelly, I don't think we should do trapped in a closet coming back out of, remember when he did like 40 versions of trapped in a closet or whatever it was back in the day? Or Kelly, I think he's still in prison, maybe for the rest of his life. But Michael Jackson, the music is just too good. And so, no, I think we got to keep playing it. My 15-year-old asked this week. He said, hey, Dad, I want to go see the new Michael Jackson movie. So I think it's the number one movie in America right now. I guess maybe that's also coinciding with why there's the interest in these most recent allegations, too, because it's the number one movie. Oh, it has circulated back as a story, certainly, because of that. I'll also, as mentioned to you off air, I'm going to go see Nate Bargatsy's new movie. It's got its premiere tonight in Nashville. probably the most famous comedian out there, and we'll see. Thank you for taking us into, like, wholesome and God-loving, wonderful direction of Nate Bargatsy. On the flip side, really good dad, really good guy, family comedy. I'm going to go see that tonight. That'll be great, honestly. I think Nate's show, which I saw here in Florida, there's the most fun comedy show I've ever been to, and it's just so nice. I can't tell you how many times to play, especially with my parents back in the day when I would see them in New York, or we'd say, you know, let's throw on something, and you put on something on Netflix, and so much comedy is so, like, gross and debauched, and you can't watch it with, you know, my parents are not drinking violence, but, you know, yeah, well, definitely not your kids, but, you know. Uh, you know, my mom and dad, even, I was embarrassed for some of this stuff. I tried to watch an Amy Chuck Schumer movie with my parents, and you can't turn it off. Turn it off. Crazy. Nate Bargatsy's the opposite of that. He's the best. So any time to watch him. Really good. I'll give you a review tomorrow, but I'm headed out there later tonight with my wife. So I think it'll be good. Speaking truth and having fun. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show. We are expecting to be joined by the leading candidate to become the next governor of Florida, Byron Donalds. He is... Making contact with the team coming up here in a bit, we can mention that so far, Buck, in terms of the redistricting story, which is a big part of what is going on with Florida, where they've redistricted, and now they think they're going to have 24 Republican seats compared to 20 before. So they've added four Republican seats. That the state of Florida, as Ron DeSantis' eight-year tenure is coming up on its close.

got redistricting done. Tennessee has redistricted. It appears that South Carolina is not going to redistrict and Mississippi is not going to redistrict either. For those of you out there saying, okay, why those states in particular? Because they had and still do evidently racially gerrymandered districts that could be open to being redrawn. But Byron Donalds's is with us now. And we'll start there. The redistricting battle is underway, Congressman. You are, I think, going to be the next governor of the state of Florida. What do you think about the new map that Florida has put in place? The governor, Ron DeSantis did the absolute right thing. If you look at what's happened in Florida, a couple things. One, Everybody already knows our state has increased in size since the 2020 census, no doubt about that. Second thing is we still believe that the Biden administration actually was playing games with the census and playing games with apportionment. We think Florida should have got an additional seat that did not occur. I think what we did was right in the state of Florida. Also look at the decision in the Louisiana case from the Supreme Court ending racial gerrymandering in the United States of America because, yes, racial racial discrimination to no matter what reason is unconstitutional and should be illegal and not allowed. That's a fact. And so we're very happy with what the governor and the legislature were able to get done. I think to broader. redistricting. I think you see Hakeem Jeffries is now out saying that they're now going to go to blue states and they want the blue states to gerrymander even further. And by the way, let's be clear. Blue states have been gerrymandering for politics way longer than red states have way longer. New York's maps. The state of Massachusetts does not have any Republicans in it whatsoever. You can go to Illinois where they basically strip mine Chicago. to make the suburbs blue districts because they use Chicago's Democrat base to make a bunch of other seats go away. California's been doing this for a long time. So only when Republicans say, okay, enough's enough, we're going to start doing what you do. Now they're upset and now they're going to go further. But we're going to win anyway, and that's just the way it's going to be. Joy Reed called you a house pet of the Republican Party. I'm reading directly from her quote. I want to let you respond to it. She said he lets white men pat him on the head in the United States of Representatives. You represent, by the way, I think a majority white district in South Florida. You, I believe, are going to be the next governor of the state of Florida. people of all different races are going to vote for you as part of that. What was your reaction when you saw what she said about you? And I'm sure she's not the only one saying things like that about you as this campaign rolls on.

Well, I think that's one of the reasons she doesn't even have her show anymore because one, she's never really been that entertaining. Two, she's not really that good at her job. And so she has to resort to these type of tropes in order to get attention. I find it to really be disgusting. And, you know, it is what it is. As far as I'm concerned, I'm going to keep doing my job. And what I stand for are free markets, free enterprise, secure borders, common sense, you know, protecting girls. in their sports, making sure that we protect the puberty of young kids and in having a sensible economic system where whether you're black or you're white or you're Hispanic, you have an opportunity to build the American dream for yourself. That's what I support and that's what the people who have voted for me in the past support. And let's be very clear, that's what the vast majority of American support, whether they're a Republican or a Democrat. What Joy Reid does is what too many Democrats have been doing for far too long. They play these racial games, these racial politics to use the paths of America to try to keep political power. And I think it's disgusting. I think people are over it. They just want common sense solutions for the issues facing America. And, you know, the way doesn't come with any solutions. So she has to do this kind of craziness. So I don't really care about her. It is what it is. You know, look, I'm sitting here in my office. One thing I know is that if you're doing something right, people take shot at you. That's just the way it is. Appreciate you being with us, Byron. It's Buck, Florida residents. One of the migration that has helped turn your state. I know you're a Florida guy through and through, but we have now taken it to a 1.4, 1.5 million Republican registration advantage. So the American migrants from elsewhere to Florida have helped make this place nice and bright red. You are the likeliest, based on all the polls, to take over as governor for Ron DeSantis. To borrow from Clay's World a little bit, this would be like being the coach who takes over after Bear Bryant retires or something, right? Clay, Bear Bryant was very good. Very good back in the day, yes. Yes, one of the best coaches. That's the only SEC football coach I could think of. You're going to be taking over for this coach and you're going to have a state that the rest of Red America, whether than a blue state or Red State. is looking to for a lot of leadership. Now, I'm not trying to, you know, say you got a lot of pressure here, big shoes and all that. I think you know that, Byron. But what is top of the agenda? I mean, there's the continuation of what's happening now in Florida, which it sounds like you and currently Ron DeSantis are aligned on the big issues. But what is top of your agenda to keep Florida in this position where it's just leading the way on... fiscal governance on bringing people here who want business to thrive, all these things. Like, what's the top of the list for you? Well, first, you know, Ron DeSantis has done a great job leading our state. He's to be commended for all his work the last seven and a half years. But I think what's top of mind for me is efficiency. We, you know, everybody saw the mess in Minnesota. We're starting to hear more and more reports about the different places where federal money and state money is being misspent, misallocated, or there's outright fraud. I think the future of not just Florida governance, but really in the entire country, is using every tool possible to weed out a fraud, to weed out wasted money. Like, we have to make sure that services are being provided.

but we just can't waste taxpayer money. The other thing is modernizing a lot of our internal operations. Like government, though today and moving forward has to move at the speed of business, not at the speed of government. Because time's money. Time is money and money is expensive. And so we want to be a very efficient government, make sure that we're doing the necessary checks that we have to do. But we're going to be efficient with people's time, with people's resources. And I believe that's going to continue to have Florida be the best state in the country. built on the foundation being left to us by Ron DeSantis of, you know, law and order, common sense, conservative policies that allow a society to thrive. We're going to just build on that and make sure our state is even more efficient than it has been in the past. There's a huge Cuban population, as you well know, in South Florida, but really all over the state. We've got to figure out what to do with Cuba now that Venezuela has largely been liberated from the Majuro regime. What do you think should happen with Cuba? I think we need a free Cuba. I want to see the regime go away. I want to see it fall. I think it's time for Diaz Canal to go. We want to see a Cuba that respects property rights, respects religious liberty, economic liberty, personal liberties, free speech. We want to see the political prisoners that they still have released. And we think these things are possible, especially with the work that President Trump and Marco Rubio are doing. We think these are possible, and the free Cuba will have a friend in Florida. But it's got to be free. It's got to respect individual liberty, and there will be a friend for them in Florida. Let me ask you this. If the president... of the United States, the commander-in-chief, Byron, who I know you know and has endorsed you. And so this isn't really a far cry from what may happen or what might have happened. If you're with him at Marlago or the White House, or I guess these days it would be Bedminster. He said, you know, Byron, we have a plan. Very similar with Maduro where we could send in a tier one unit, whether it's Delta or the Seals, and we could take into custody. a few of the top leaders of the Cuba communist regime and make them face justice for a whole range of things here in the U.S. Would you tell them to give the go order? Yes, I would. Look, look, let's be very clear about what's happening 90 miles off the coast of Florida. You have a communist dictatorship that's been in place since the 60s, which has been an ally to our enemies on the world stage, and that is a fact. And so I think it's time for the regime to fall. I do. What would you tell President Trump, and you may have already talked with him about it? He is, what is, 1.45, I think, in the morning right now in Beijing. He's landed in China for the state visit. What do you expect to come out of that state visit? What do you hope we get out of it? Well, I mean, look, a couple things. One, obviously the president is working through to finalize whatever deals we need to get done with the Chinese. Two, what's kind of looming in the background is this conflict with Iran. And I think that obviously because of the tradeholder moves being in a position that it's in, which is raising global oil prices.

I think that definitely is in the interest of the Chinese to be able to get resolved as quickly as we can. And we need to make sure that they don't have a nuclear weapon. I think the one thing that's been so misleading from the press, you know, they keep saying, oh, the president doesn't have a goal in what's happening with Iran. And that's not true. He's been clear from the beginning. They cannot have nuclear weapons, period. End of story, full stop. And so I think that potentially with what happens... in Beijing over the next couple days, we might be able to get a solution on that front as well. And I think that'll be good when it comes to not just global security, but obviously global oil markets. Byron Donalds, running for governor, Congressman Byron Donalds, appreciate you being with us here, sir. Best of luck to you. We'll talk to you again soon. Listen, thanks, guys. Appreciate you. Take it easy. I think he's going to win, and I think he's going to do a good job. But we're going to, because we, unlike the view, allow people to make the case of why you should vote for them. We're making it as clear and transparent as we can be. We're going to let everybody talk to you who's running for office when we have one candidate on, unlike the view. So you pay attention to that going forward. Fast-growing trees. I'm looking out right now at many different, awesome. Some would say spectacular trees that are growing in my yard. And that's partly due to fastgrowing trees.com. These guys are blown away by how much you love trees, plants, shrubs. So many of you out there are signing up that every time we share what producer Ali is bought, they sell out. So I'm not going to name any particular plant, tree, or shrub. in this particular ad because I don't want you guys to flood and go by exactly what I just told you. But Ali just got her mother-in-law something called, well, I'm going to say it now, perfecto mundo. That was close to something else. The perfecto mundo. I don't even know what that is, but I bet it is going to sell out now on fast-growing trees. Ali says it's awesome. Her mother-in-law, I loved it. Make sure that you spell it correctly. It starts perfect. Perfecto Mundo on fastgrowing trees.com. Look, they have the alive and thrive guarantee. It is awesome. Right now, any tree, plant, or shrub you want, you get for 20% off when you use my name Clay. So go to fastgrowing trees.com, check it out. Put in your zip code, and they will tell you whether you live in South Florida like Buck does, whether you live in Nashville like I do, whether you're in the New York City area, whether you're in L.A., San Francisco, Seattle, heck, anywhere, all over Texas down on the border. Wherever you may be, they will tell you, Arizona, very different plants, what works perfectly in your particular zip code. Get hooked up today at fastgrowingtrees.com. My name's CLAY for 20% off. That's fastgrowingtrees.com. Code Clay.

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The numbers on this thing were through the roof. Again, he was convicted of double murder, killing his wife and one of his kids, right? If I remember correctly, the team in New York can correct me if I'm wrong on that. I believe that was, and there was a whole sordid family history of the Murdoch family in South Carolina, potentially getting away with a variety of different alleged crimes. The evidence that was allowed to be introduced at his trial should not have been some of the evidence, some of the individuals. I haven't done a big read on this. This is me just reading the headline. Some of you are going to be. insanely well versed in this because you have followed this case very much. I do know, Buck, was it Netflix that had the crazy popular Murdoch family documentary that was one of the top most watched shows that they've had out? I think it was Netflix. Did you see the documentary? I think I did. I think Laura and I watched it. I remember they were sorry. It's very, very dark, very macabre, very, very, you know, demonic of a documentary. But I just say there's one scene where, like, the son who is obviously a brat, like shoves aside his girlfriend and is like, your dad's not even man enough to make enough money so your mom could stay home. And then he proceeded to, like, hit the boat full throttle and ram them into a bridge. Do you remember this? I mean, I totally. I mean, that story was the whole family and all of the sorted shenanigans that they were allegedly involved in, another trial. So this is, remember the Epstein, not the Epstein case in New York, all of that got tossed, right? All of the convictions because they put improper testimony into the record. Why do I bring this up? These are big screw-ups for high-profile cases to get the entire thing tossed the South Carolina Supreme Court again has ruled that he has to get a new double murder trial. Same thing happened with Harvey Weinstein. I believe it was in New York, right, where they tossed all the convictions that he got in New York. I'm going to say it did play. Yeah, they tossed some of the Harvey Weinstein, New York convictions. But Clay, they, uh, They did play into, I think, a bit of the, like, you know, here, if you know, the sheriff in South Carolina, you can just get away. You know, they, also a lot of the coastal people really enjoyed the Murdoch story because it was playing to a stereotype of, like, in the deep south, you can get away with anything if your family is connected. And, you know, so that was part of, I think, why it was such a frenzy. It was a little bit of the Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil where you have a unique location that also ties in with the murder mystery. I was out to dinner last night. We were having a conversation. The true crime podcast audience is truly overwhelming. And they now do all these crime con events.

I think the true crime world is even more popular than it ever has been in the past. And so that case, again, the South Carolina Supreme Court, tying it in politically. If they are willing in New York to overturn the conviction of Harvey Weinstein, if they are willing in South Carolina to overturn the conviction of Murdoch, I think those are two guys that did commit crimes. I still believe Buck that eventually in New York, we're going to get an overturning of all of the convictions that happened to President Trump. related to bookkeeping shenanigans that was prosecuted by Alvin Bragg, and I do think that's going to happen at some point in the years ahead. When we come back, awful story in the New York Times about Israel, we'll discuss. Life moves fast. At American Military University, they're ready to help you keep up. AMU's flexible, affordable online programs in cybersecurity, IT, space studies, and more are designed for service members, veterans, and their families. AMU provides the support you need to take the next step, wherever life takes you. American Military University, made for what's next. Learn more at amu.apus.edu.edu. If you're someone who's tracking your sleep, your steps, and your macros, then you already know that what you eat is kind of everything. You should also know that Sprouts Farmer's Market can help make eating for longevity easier. Sprouts has all the high-quality, nutrient-dense, organic foods and cutting-edge supplements you need. So whether you're focused on protein, gut health, or optimizing how you feel day-to-day, it's all there. And here's what no other grocery store can offer. An in-store wellness expert to help you find exactly what you need. So whether you're after longevity or on any other health journey, it's easier at Sprout's Farmer's Market. Got plans this summer? A brewery crawl? Another lake trip? The same festival you've been to three times already? Do something different. This August, Virginia International Raceway becomes the ultimate summer destination. Watch Inns' Michelin GT Challenge at VIR. August 21 through 23rd brings some of the fastest sports cars to battle through VIR's legendary corners. Camp with friends. Enjoy live music and experience a weekend you'll actually be talking about afterward. Start planning now at govir.net. You want your master's degree. You know you can earn it, but life gets busy. The pack schedule, the late nights, and then there's the unexpected. American Public University was built for all of it. With monthly starts and no set login times, APU's 40 plus flexible online master's programs are designed to move at the speed of life.

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