Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Jun 10 2026

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We've got a lot of news because Trump is, I just had to turn it off because I'm on air. He was doing a press conference until a couple of minutes ago. He covered everything. It was a Trumpathon. Everything. He's talking about Iran. He's talking about the border, about crime, about the DNI. Trump is saying the DNI needs to be chopped down a lot and maybe go away. Maybe someone's been listening to the Clay and Buck Show. Just saying, everybody, that just came out now. Guys, make sure you pull that clip, by the way, because the Bucster wants to take a little mini bow on that one. It was funny, actually, just a little, oh, a little inside baseball for you. We were all geared up to watch our man Clay testifying on Capitol Hill. We all were the whole team, right? New York. I'm here in Miami. We're all about to text. We see Clay sit down. By the way, he was wearing a jacket and tie. I barely even recognized the guy. I felt like he was going in for a job interview somewhere. Like, Clay's in a jacket and tie. I bet he's wearing flip-lops onto the desk. Nonetheless, he's about to start. And then they go, they make that, like we were watching the Fox feed. They make that breaking news sound at Fox. I go, wait, what's going on? Clay's about? And they jump to President Trump, who's doing the press. I'm like, oh, man. If you're going to get big-footed, as they say, by somebody when you're on TV. Best that it be Trump, because no shame in that game. He is the leader of the free world. But we'll bring some of the highlights from Clay's excellent testimony on the NFL, which is a subject. He is very deep on, and I have no idea what about that stuff. I don't even watch the NFL. We've got that to talk about. We got all the Trump stuff from the press conference. We are going to dive into. We have some important crime stories to discuss. I know a lot of you know this, but just to bring us all up to speed, Carmelo Anthony in Texas, convicted right after we got off air yesterday, convicted of murder. Now, I was a little bit honestly concerned that because they were able to get a manslaughter possibility for the jury that maybe they would, a lot of times juries, even if they know someone did the criminal act, they'll go, well, you know, we'll kind of go down the middle on this one. Jury returned exactly the right verdict and beyond that, which was murder, okay, so the more severe, the more severe count. And then beyond that, he got. 35 years. So they really made a statement here. They decided that the facts in this case, which we've discussed a bit on the show, the facts in this case were really not in dispute. It was just a question of if someone says something you don't like to you, can you just pull out a knife and stab them in the heart, basically. And fortunately for civilization, for rule of law, for people of all races, religions, colors, genders, you name it. This Texas jury and this court of law came back with, no, you're not allowed to just stab someone in the heart because you didn't like them asking you to go somewhere else when you're not supposed to be where you are. So that was, it's encouraging insofar as it's the right judicial work. It is also, though, still worth noting.

The Metcalf family has been shattered by this, by the murder of their wonderful young man for absolutely no reason, completely senseless. So it's a tragedy, but at least there's some justice. to put closure to the tragedy, although I know people who deal with violent crimes will often say that closure is not really possible, but you do the best you can. And as a society, at least, we have seen the right outcome here. I bring all that up because there were people outside that trial. We will get to some of this who are outraged at the verdict. I did not see anyone on video who was non-black. who was outraged at the verdict. I'm not saying that didn't exist. I'm just saying all the clips that I have seen and that we have pulled today for the show are black supporters of Carmelo Anthony who are not saying... Things like, I am sad for his family. This was a tragedy. He made a terrible mistake. And I think that maybe the punishment is more severe or something like that. I would disagree that the punishment is too severe. But at least there's some moral framework to that. They're just saying, I can't believe he was convicted. This is awful. They apparently think that a young black man should be able to stab a young white man in the heart for no reason and get away with it because the legacy of racism in this country. Something like that. It's really disturbing to see, and we will talk more about that later on to show because there's also in New York City a really upsetting, another really upsetting case where you had someone who just asked, and this one hits home for me because I am that guy. who will ask the person in, let's say, the quiet car on Amtrak to, like, please stop shouting into your phone. Like, we all agreed. By sitting here, you agree to the rules and there are rules. And I tend to be that person. I don't like this term that people used to use Karen because in my experience, a lot of quote-unquote Karen's are heroes, actually, and they are standing on the wall. They are saving us from the barbarism of people who just don't want to think about anyone else, who just don't want to pay attention to any rules, who have no consideration for their fellow human beings. But a man asks someone on the subway to lower the volume on his speakerphone conversation. And the person, the quote, teen, we can look at the statistics and have about a 95% probability of knowing who this teen is in terms of profile. He shot him to death. Shot him a death. We're asking, hey, can you lower the volume on that?

then the person gets really angry, the quote unquote teen, probably 18 or 19. I really, the way they deploy this word teen is so, it's so interesting because when you're 19, are you technically a teen, yes, but you're also a fully legal adult in all matters, save drinking and rental cars, I think. I don't think there's anything else that you are barred from at 19. I also think it's worth noting that there are 17-year-olds who join the Marine Corps, and correct me any of any of you leathernecks out there, if I'm wrong, but I believe that you can get permission. I think people have joined the Marine Corps at 17. I think my friend DJ Shipley, former Navy SEAL, I think he joined the Navy at 17. So, you know, this notion of like, oh, it's a teen, there is a world of difference. In every respect, and especially those of you who are parents and have raised your children through to adulthood, know this. The difference between a 13-year-old and an 18-year-old and just understanding of the world and culpability and everything else is massive. So to call both a teen when you're talking about a violent murder, Okay, well, there's a whole lot more culpability, rather, and usually capability as well for somebody who's 18 or 19. Anyway, I'll talk more about that. We have some updates also on the California vote count election situation and Graham Platner. They're going with Graham Platner, everybody, up in Maine. They have not decided that this guy is. I don't know, dare I say, too toxic? Is that the preferred way to describe him? But a couple things. Let's get to the national policy level, and then I will want to drill down on the crime situation. And, of course, our lines are open. We'd love to chat with you. If you have any questions you want, or guys, is Clay testifying? Is he done or is there more coming up? Let me know, because I was going to say we can get, if you have any specific things that you want addressed about the NFL stuff, maybe he could answer in one of his breaks. Because, again, I don't know. It's something about antitrust and football games. That's not something I'm that into. So, President Trump, first of all, signed the Secure America Act this morning to fully fund. CBP and immigration and custom enforcement. Now, this is good for a variety of reasons. Good for a variety of reasons. One, it is the president following through on not only, of course, funding these agencies, but also pushing back the focus. to securing our border here this is cut to this is trump this morning just before we came on air about an hour before at the white house

Here he is. Play it. This morning, I'm thrilled to sign the Secure America Act to immediately and fully fund the Department of Homeland Security through the end of my term. So we won't have that to be talking about anymore. We'll give the heroes of ICE and Border Patrol, and that's what they are. They're heroes for what they have to go through to keep us safe. To support and resources they need to defend our borders, protect our homeland, and to keep America safe. So they're funded, which is good. Now we need to see a massive effort. I think this is very important for the midterm elections. It's also just important for the country to focus in on the agenda of rule of law when it comes to immigration. And that means a whole lot of deportations, of course, maintaining a secure border. This is one of the fundamental promises of Trump's second term. And I know they've been very active on it. I know the numbers reflect that this has been something that they are achieving, at least in part, or they are in progress on. They are making progress on it. But this stuff with Iran, I'm going to tell you right now, everybody who's, we've gone from, oh, wait, why are we, don't talk about the Iran thing, it's just helping the Democrats or whatever to, guys, you've got. people who are ringing the alarm bell inside the GOP who are saying that this price issue is going to be a real problem for us in the midterms. You can disagree with it, I can disagree with it, and I don't like it, meaning I don't want people to be making determinations about the future of this republic based upon short-term gas prices, but that is political reality. We live in reality here. We do not do the... dare I say, manufactured delusion stuff. And you've had food prices now a whole range of things going up. As of this morning, gasoline is up 40%. Fuel oil is up 59%. Inflation 4.2% today overall. But things like meat is up about 8%. A whole bunch of different food stuff, daily necessity items are more expensive. So prices, because of this Iran situation, have started a trend in the wrong direction. This is not politically fatal. I'm not saying it's not worth it necessarily to try to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. I'm just saying Trump now with his team looking at the issue of immigration as something to really focus in on alongside prices, but immigration between now and election day could make a huge difference because it's go time, right? This is it.

I mean, Trump really has one more year after the midterm to implement the agenda before we get into a presidential election year. There'll be things he can do. There'll be executive orders, et cetera. But if we lose control of the House... you're limited. If you lose control of the Senate, you're really limited in what Trump will be able to accomplish. So you have to think of it in those terms. You've basically got one more. If we hold the line in this midterm election, which is going to require the GOP to have a focus on domestic issues, specifically the economy and the border or the economy and immigration. If we hold the line, then you have another year where really important things can get done. If we lose, obviously we keep fighting. We never were happy warriors, but it's going to be a lot more challenging. So that's why Trump's executive order, I'm sorry, Trump rather, it's not an executive order. That's why Trump signing the Secure America Act, the law to fully fund CBP and ICE, is a strong move. We need more of that. We'll bring you some more of the highlights from Trump this morning. We'll also talk a bit about the aftermath of the... carmello anthony verdict verdict of guilty of murder and it was the right outcome but the conversation around this now tells us a lot about both criminal justice and racial dynamics in america that we need to examine as a country we need to examine them honestly Okay, now my cell phone company is something I'm going to talk to you about, Pure Talk. They have been my company for years. Pure Talk honors our veterans all year long in one way or another, and they are and have been an America first company long before Trump was even using that term. One of the ways that they accomplish this is taking a percentage of their revenue and donating it to nonprofit organizations that support veterans. Right now, Pure Talk and its customers like me. are raising two hundred and fifty thousand dollars for america's warrior partnership on the end of july This essential nonprofit foundation stands on the front lines of preventing veteran suicide. They do this by covering the basics. They help with housing, access to VA benefits, transportation, and counseling. And here's how you can play a part. When you switch your cell phone service to Peer Talk this month, you'll have an opportunity to round up to support America's Warrior Partnership. Pure Talk will match that donation until they reach $250,000. So enjoy unlimited talk text and high-speed data for just $34.99 a month.

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It's a very good question. There were multiple, and I went through the transcript of the testimony here, there were multiple eyewitnesses. Remember, this was done in full view of lots of people. This wasn't like behind the bleachers with no one watching. There were multiple eyewitnesses who all basically said that Metcalf put a hand on Anthony's shoulder to start to move him out of the tent. uh anthony was asked 15 times by individuals in the tent to leave he was not he was not welcome there he was not supposed to be there based on these high school uh event rules you know it would be like if somebody from the opposing team came and sat on your bench like you know you're not supposed to be there rules that everybody else was fine obeying and and respecting And there is dispute among the witnesses, some, I should say discrepancy, not really dispute, discrepancy among the witnesses as to whether it was more of a hand on the shoulder to guide him out or something of a shove, right? Like shoved his shoulder. He did not strike him. He was not beating him. He did not have his hands around his throat or anything like that. A shove on the shoulder. Another important part of this is Anthony kept saying, touch me and see what happens, touch me and see what happens, knowing that he had a knife ready to go at this high school event. Now, some people do not understand how self-defense law works. As somebody who does conceal carry here, both sometimes a knife and or a pistol in Florida, I have to be very well acquainted with this. And I know it's different state to state, to be clear, but there's some basic principles that are pretty, pretty common across all states on this one. And one of them is just it has to be proportionate. You know, you have to be incredible fear. And this is what I meant by, if somebody is walking past me on the street and I'm looking at my phone and we bump shoulders and I say, oh, I'm sorry, if they pull out a gun and shoot me at point blank range, because they said that they were scared and they felt like they were under assault, they're going to go to prison, okay? You have to have more than just like somebody came into physical touch with me. You know, if somebody tapped me on the shoulder. and it's an old friend, I could theoretically turn around and stab them because I say, oh my God, I was assaulted on the street. They made physical contact with me. A jury is going to say, no, you killed someone that's murder. You had no justification to do it. It has to be a reasonable level of force for a reasonable perception of threat. Okay? So that, because everyone's going to say, oh, but he made physical contact. These are high school kids. Think about what that rule would then mean. I mean, I, you know, people, I got into a couple of scraps when I was in high school with people. They were nothing serious. I wasn't some tough guy or anything, but, you know, grabbing and shoving and stuff. You know, this kind of stuff happened. Imagine if you could just carry a knife around that if anyone touch you, you just stab them in the face. Touch me first.

stab him in the face. You're high school students. Go to the dean, right? I mean, go to a teacher and be like, you know, expel this kid. You're going to stab him? So all these people that are trying to now say, oh, but he made physical contacts of that, no, they're wrong. They don't understand the law and they don't understand ethics and what they're saying is. Um, uh, stupid. So here we go. We have Unidentified listener from San Antonio listens on W-O-A-I. This is D. Let's hear what this gentleman has to say. Mayor, what you expect? Got an old white judge and black boy talking to a white woman. Probably didn't get a death penalty because he's a black boy talking to a white woman. I mean, that's just unfortunately ignorant and wrong on every level. Wrong as a matter of law, wrong on the facts. But just to give you a sense, I mean, we have people even who are listening to the show who are going to disagree with me on this. And they're free to disagree. They're free to be wrong. This was the right outcome in this case. And the whole thing is very sad. And it's just all lost. It's all bad. uh this whole situation um but i want to also just move to because i mentioned this thing of uh carmelo anthony what really instigated the whole thing is he didn't think the rules applied to him too he didn't want to and you can say oh it's not a law yeah but it's an understood civilized way to interact with your high school peers that you have your tent they have their 10 it's a competitive event you know you're not supposed to be everybody else was fine with the rules. He thought the rules didn't apply to him. And then he, instead of saying, oh my gosh, you guys are right, I'm sorry, I'll head over to, you know, the other tent or something. He wanted to, he knew he had a knife, and he wanted to throw down. And now he's going to spend at least 15 years in prison for it, maybe longer. There was an incident in New York City that just happened. And this is something that I think really does hit home for a lot of us. This is, um, It was on Monday a bus passenger named Jonathan Pettigrew, 41 years old, asked a, quote, teen, to lower his phone volume on a public bus. And this is the WABC report from New York on this. Play 11. It started with an argument about someone yelling too loudly on his phone, and it ended in gunfire and a 41-year-old man dead, and it happened on an MTA bus. Surveillance video shows passengers running off that bus moments after gunshots rang out, including at least one rider with a baby stroller. According to police, the victim told the suspect to keep it down. An argument ensued, and then the gunman shot the victim in his abdomen on a BX-36 bus. It happened yesterday around 2.30 in the afternoon at White Place. Road and East Tremont Avenue, the suspect then fled on foot southbound on White Plains Road. He's described as a young man, possibly a teenager, wearing a white shirt at the time. The victim, identified by police as Jonathan Pedigrew was rushed at Jacoby Hospital, where he later died. I think they're missing a data point there from the description of the suspect. A teenager wearing a white t-shirt.

Hmm. Did anyone notice if the teenager had hair? Did anyone notice if the teenager was of a certain skin color? This is, remember, this is somebody who has fled at large, just murdered somebody. And this is a news report. This is about public safety now, right? Got to get the word out. Okay, I'm glad that they got the word out about a teenager wearing a t-shirt. That's going to help. That's really narrowing it down, isn't it? But you see, we all see, there are these invisible but omnipresent rules about criminal justice and about these issues that were, about racial issues. We're all supposed to, what? How about just fairness, sanity, and equality? How about the truth? We just always say the truth. That would be a good place to start, wouldn't it, on all of this? But I would just note that I see this, it's very common down here in Miami, and it is not members of the black community that I generally have had interactions with on this. It is a different community who like to play incredibly loud music in public places that are enclosed. For example, they will just play their music on their phone when they're sitting in like a restaurant. Or they will get on, this is true, I was in a restaurant, a, you know, a, like a sit down, nice restaurant last night. And someone at the table next to us was just having a full-blown FaceTime conversation that the whole restaurant could hear. FaceTime on speaker, shouting to the person, you know, holding up their thing, you know, I'm talking to my buddy at FaceTime. It's not a loud restaurant, by the way. So we all get to hear this guy's conversation. It's incredibly rude. It's incredibly rude. and manners, by the way, are actually an important ingredient in civilization, in our ability to socially interact with each other and with other people. And this, I know it happens on the subway all the time. Producer Alley's telling you. It happens to the subway all the time. Well, in this case, it happened on a bus, and so is it, hey, can you keep it down? The guy clearly got super aggressive and murdered. He murdered somebody because he didn't want to hear the guy's speakerphone conversation. Now, There are different ways to analyze why people do this. Rafael Menguil, who is a friend of mine at the Manhattan Institute, is one of the, I think, top criminal justice analysts and commentators on the scene today. We've had him on the show before. And I want you to hear what he says specifically about this incident. Obviously, Raphael is he's of Latin American background himself. And here's what he is saying about this. Quote, I've lost count of how many times I've made this point, but please take this as a warning and not merely an observation. Anti-social behavior. Think about the guy blasting music from a speaker, talking loudly on speakerphone, smoking inside the subway car in a public space, is often doing so because they are engaged in it as a dare. The whole point is to provoke anger and annoyance in those around him, which serves two purposes depending on the response he's hoping for. Number one, if everyone bites their tongues, the antisocial jerk gets to tell himself that he's such a badass no one would ever dare speak up. Or two, if someone confronts him, he finds his excuse to scratch a violent itch.

understand that saying something to these people will also come, often come with a risk of violent confrontation, end quote. It's absolutely true. People do things like this. It reminds me also of the dirt bike takeovers on the streets of New York City. They're daring anyone to say anything. They're daring the cops to even try to stop them. It's meant to show a power dynamic at play. We, the people doing the antisocial thing, do what we want. And if you try to enforce social norms, if you try to enforce respect for fellow human beings, we'll punch you, we'll stab you, maybe we'll shoot you, that is a common enough thing now that people need to be warned about it. And I think about this sometimes too. You know, I will have, you know, everyone has these kinds of incidents. You know, I'm amazed at. Also, unfortunately, it seems like the bad guys, the people that like to do this stuff, the more they get away with it, the more that happens. It's a bit like graffiti in a city. The more you see graffiti, the more graffiti happens. And the more people think, you know, but just to be clear, there are rules in the subway. This isn't like some, oh, but I'm getting the manager. You're not allowed to have like a boom box blasting me. You're not allowed to do these things. You're not allowed to, you're not supposed. I'm on an airplane these days because I fly commercial like everybody else. I'm on an airplane. And there's about a 70% chance that some jerk, by the way, could be, could be, you know, anybody actually. This is one where you get everybody's kind of an equal, meaning different profiles. male, female, you know, white, black. I've actually never seen an Asian do it, to be fair. But white, black, Hispanic, you know, I see a lot of people do it. They do the, I'm going to have like my iPad with no headphones. And they're told at the beginning of the flight, please, you must use headphones. Use headphones. It's very annoying and distracting to everyone else who's probably trying to read or watch their own thing or maybe sleep, that you're just blasting this. People just don't care. and they get indignant about it. Now, a lot of this, I think, also comes from just the lack of, like, male role models and also father figures in society these days. There's a deeper conversation here, but we... I know it sounds grandiose, but for the purposes of maintaining civilization, we actually need to be able to socially enforce norms, and we need to call out this kind of antisocial behavior, and anybody who gets violent in response to it needs to be severely punished, because that's the way that you can actually stop it. That's the message that needs to be sent. 40 years past his presidency, Ronald Reagan is still referenced and referred to as a great president and for good reason. He strengthened our resolve and made us proud Americans. He was also a president who looked after our allies, including Israel. Freedoms have endured in Israel as they have here. Reagan said in our tasks, in our talks, we paid special attention to two issues, our commitment to Israel's security and well-being and our shared desire to move forward together for a just and lasting peace between Israel and its Arab neighbors. A strong, secure, Israel is a shared interest.

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Yeah, that one, I think it's a little different when someone's knocked you down and is bashing your head into the concrete to claim self-defense than when someone pushes you, pushes you. I went to a pretty upscale Catholic school in, and there was a lot of shoving and no plunging of knives into the center of people's chests, and that's a darn good thing. But can you explain? Because I've cited this on the show before. Your, I forget which book you did this in, but I remember it. I remember like, yep, that's true. The OJ verdict and the white guilt bank being closed. Yes. Yes, that's sort of the, it's my book Mugged. racial demagoguery from the 70s to Obama, and it goes through a lot of the wild cases from Manhattan. When we were kids, you especially, I mean, it was like it is today, but I thought it went away after the OJ verdict. Every case would be a mini George Floyd case, and then the facts would turn out to be the opposite of what the New York Times had been slapping on its front page for six weeks or months, and the correction would run on page A18, like they were just going whisper to you. Oh, yeah, everything we're telling you about that wasn't true. And then the OJ verdict came, and people who weren't alive for that don't realize what a shock to the system this was. I mean, throughout America in Burger Kings at the prestigious Howard University Law School on the Oprah show, on college campuses, on high schools that were being filmed. Almost in unison, black people erupted in cheers. In my school, I remember it very, very pointedly in my school, some of the black students and started running around the entire school, just yelling at everybody in your face and like laughing all over the school. And by the way, no one did anything about it. The deans, no one did anything. Yes, yes. Well, I mean, as a general matter, the liberal approach to making up for slavery and Jim Crow, which I agree with the concept, of treating black people like children, I think is not working out that well. They are responsible adults with agency. ought to be responsible for their own reaction, but there is just so much of an impulse in academia among democratic politicians and certainly overwhelmingly in the media to treat black people like children. And, you know, think about raising a child. You spoil a child. You're not going to get a well-adjusted, you know, responsible adult. But that is the overwhelming approach liberals have had. Well, that ended with the OJ verdict. At least it ended for about a decade, maybe 15 years. Then we get Giuliani. One of the great thing, I mean, it was the great, it was the best thing, you know, since the end of Jim Crow, I think, to happen to black people in America because they suddenly started being treated like adults. And the pompous liberals going on about, oh, the legacy of racism. People, white people were just done. It was, like I say in the book, like a subway card that doesn't work anymore when you start crying about slavery and racism because people were so shocked. I mean, you talked to someone alive at that time.

Everyone was just shocked at the core at how black people were thrilled. And as I think you know, I mean, just a few years ago, which I always said at the time, black people knew he was guilty. They're not idiots. And a jurors come forward and said, oh, yeah, no, we knew he was guilty. This was just a retaliation to let off. Right. Well, that was what we, I actually assumed at the time that the, like, the black students running around my school, they didn't think that O.J. was innocent. They were happy that they knew he was guilty and he got away with it. And, you know, at least Scott was not guilty in that trial. And now I think to this situation with Carmelo Anthony. Now, I think you're right. I think that this one, there's some very, very stupid people who are getting media attention because they're outside of this quarter. I mean, this one is not a close call. We have gotten some people calling in today or emailing in who sort of take a little bit of issue with that. But anyway. I think that that one, you know, this case is over and we can move on, but it is an interesting. Well, if I could say, in their defense, maybe semi in their defense, there's been a lot of false reporting about this case. I mean, apparently this. It is not true that the fund, I mean, I think it's kind of embarrassing that he, that Carmelo Anthony for stabbing the white kid in the heart instantly, you know, raises $600,000 yet and still, it was not spent on cognac and new houses, as I understand it. And also, I mean, I think it came out pretty clearly at trial that Carmelo Anthony was being asked politely to leave. The tense that he was not supposed to be under. He wasn't a bully white guy. It's a white guy is always portrayed as, you know, some snobbish preppy jerk out of a Hollywood movie. It's all the Duke lacrosse case. It's always the Duke lacrosse case. You know, they're just, they've got their lacrosse stick in one hand, and they've got a, you know, they've got a bottle of a Chardonnay and the other, and they're just yelling at Consuela to go faster as she's cleaning. Like, this is the lie the media always creates. But you mentioned, I think you mentioned pompous liberals a second ago. This is a... I just, can we just talk about Scott Pelly for a minute here? Because this guy, I mean, he actually is tweeting out from his yacht about how he appreciates like all the, all the respect and the love from everybody. He went in and basically told his boss, stuff that you're a loser. I won't listen to you. This will get you fired. But is this the end of the pompous overpaid TV news anchor that we both grew up with that we both had to listen to for decades? I really want to encourage Scott Pelley to keep doing as many interviews as possible. Oh, my gosh, he is a pompous ass, which I've always known. I've written about him in one of my columns. It doesn't really matter for what, but for being a pompous ass and being, oh, so praised throughout the media. He was bravely called Donald Trump a felon because nobody's done that before.

And whatever you think of Barry White's taking over CBS. I never watched CBS anyway or 60 minutes. But wow, boy, do I say go girl now. What a relief that she's taken over. And I wonder watching like long dot. They're acting like Bill O'Reilly took over. It's Bari Weiss. She was an editorial columnist at the New York Times. I mean, she's kind of a centrist Democrat, if you will. And they are apoplectic over there. This dude, Pelly is crying when he talks about. He said it was like, what? Did you hear this? By the way, this was the best. He said that what she is doing to 60 minutes is like watching a spouse be murdered. No, I missed that. Yes, that's a real thing. I hope they all interview him. I think this is very important. And yeah, as where, you know, Bari Weiss, this is like the left hysteria over, we've got to get rid of Susan Collins in Maine. Okay, okay, maybe Graham Platner is a racist and beat his girlfriends and makes fun of dying soldiers, some of which I think is silly, as you know, yet and still. We have to vote for him to get rid of that fascist Susan Collins. She's like the most liberal Republican there is. She voted for Brett Kavanaugh. That's the only reason I support her. But to act like Bari Weiss and Susan Collins are these fire-breathing right-wingers. They've lost their minds. I think at some level two, Ann, Barry almost has an impossible task here because just from like a media and the future of media perspective. I think CNN, there is no regaining what it was and particularly regaining trust and credibility. I think that ship has sailed. Or do you think that there is some 2.0 version if it really gets, because, you know, she's in charge of that now, too, which is hilarious. I know, that'll be great. No, I mean, I kind of wonder about both. CBS News and CNN since I don't think I know anyone under the age of 50 who owns a television set. So I'm not sure what this, I mean, having lived through as you did, the end of magazines, which were huge business in New York, and pretty much the end of newspapers, I mean, these star reporters out at various other than the New York Times. And The Washington Post, with its sugar daddy, Jeff Bezos, newspapers are done over magazines, all the glossies that are Rolling Stone and GEQ. And they're done, done, done. And having lived through the end of one industry, I don't know. I kind of see the writing on the wall with CBS, ABC, and NBC. To say nothing of CNN, Fox News, and MSNBC. But I guess we'll find out. We will. What's the podcast on for this weekend? Your column is on partially Carmelo Anthony. Tell everybody where they can go find it. Yes, that'll be on my substack, ancultor.com, by tonight or tomorrow, runs in various newspapers and it'll be on ancultor.com. But if you sign up for my substack, it'll go right into your email box. And that'll go up in a couple of hours. It's, you know, this week in hate crimes.

Oh, wow. Well, just real quick before we let you go ahead. Do you feel, I feel like the thing that the administration is not, Trump mentioned it today in the press conference, not talking about enough. They've brought down, I was just in D.C. The murder rate in D.C. is down like 60%. The murder rate in Memphis is down 70%. What is the liberal argument for Chicago to not work with federal law enforcement to deal with their murder rate at this point? Like, what is it? It is a very strange obsession that I talk about in the book you just mentioned. Mugs, I mean, liberals, they want to release criminals. They are just desperate to release criminals. And we saw it when, after O.J., Mayor Rudy Giuliani came in and instantly dropped the murder rate to such an extent that when he ran for re-election, the New York Times itself... endorsed him and made fun of ruth messenger who was running against him for claiming that crime wasn't better and the new york times officially editorially had to say are you out of your mind um other cities imitated Rudy Giuliani's policies. And in those cities, the crime came down. And other cities just crossed their arms and listened to the liberal progressives, like the ones who are probably going to be the next mayor of Los Angeles, that, no, we need more community outreach and activists. And the DA of New York, oh my gosh. No, liberals just want to release criminals. It's a psychological. Clay and I have to do like, we got to do like a long form sit down with you because I always have board. Can you give me just a quick fire in this one? In L.A. Are they cheating or are they just that many crazy people in LA? Oh, I'm so glad you asked. That was the other thing I was thinking of writing about this week. I may do it next week. No, it is massive statewide cheating. I am so rooting for Steve Hilton. He does have Sergei Brin behind him because Sergei Bryn is dating a MAGA influencer, something I talked about on my Rumble video this week. She's the woman who may save California because Sergei's given Hilton enough money to try to reduce the cheating. But because... California is a one-party state, Republicans don't bother catching the cheating or changing the cheating. The main thing is, as I think people are familiar with from 2020, is having these mail-in ballots. They are sent to every, quote, registered voters, including registered voters. at one time from a decade ago, who have moved, who have died. These ballots are just floating all over the state. And they have illegals being paid and to pick them up. We found that out from Steve Hilton himself. So, I mean, that's just crazy. They're able to just go get them. And you can put. I was just going to say it's baked into the system before you even get to counting the votes.

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You know, I think this is going to be President Trump's largest achievement and the Republican Congress's largest achievement, and that is controlling the border. I think the people spoke in the election, but also just the evidence of perhaps as many as 8 million people coming in during the Biden administration and going to zero. So I think that is a big deal. This is the first time we've done funding of Border Patrol and border security. Though, through a partisan means, reconciliation is a simple majority way of getting around the filibus rules. We did that, but it was with only Republican votes. So this is a first, but I think it's also something that President Trump will be remembered for. And it's also a large reason why I think people aren't trusting the Democrats. Now, I think there's something that we can push on top of this. What I've been saying is not only do we need a wall to keep people from coming into the country. We need a wall around our welfare system. So we passed years ago and said, oh, if you come into the countries in England, you're ineligible for welfare for five years. But then they made all these exceptions. They said, oh, if you have a special visa. So if you came from Afghanistan, Iraq, because of the wars, you can get welfare. If you came in as a refugee from Somalia, you can get welfare. But then when we measure this, like the Somalis, it's like 85 to 90 percent on welfare for over 10 years. So I think we need now to move on to saying, yes, we're controlling the border, but we need to control the, you know, put a wall around the welfare state so these people aren't able to come in. You know, the American dream should be about jobs, not coming here to get welfare. It's astonishing, Senator Paul, when we start to look into just how much, or rather how large the fraud is and how many dollars are going into this, it feels like it's just endless. It's a black hole. We're never going to find every dollar, but it feels like we're just scratching the surface as well. Do you feel like JD Vance, as the vice president, and I guess... He probably wouldn't want to be called the fraud czar, but you know what I mean? This is his mandate is to find this stuff. Are you hopeful that there will be reform and change, not just on the executive side in terms of prosecution, but is there a role here for Congress, for the Senate to act? Well, yeah, I'm excited that the administration is looking at this and trying to call back and arrest and put these people in jail. But the other side is the funding source. So if someone's ripping off 20% of the product, you need to cut the spending by 20% or more. So I've introduced a couple of amendments to say that refugees should be ineligible for welfare. And I force these to a vote. It's not easy because the powers that be don't want to vote on these things. But the two times that I've forced this vote, I've got about 20 to 24 Republicans supporting ending welfare for refugees, but I get about 30 of the establishment voting for it. Now, all the Democrats are for it. Every Democrat is unified in being for welfare for refugees. But even the Republicans, you know, I'm having trouble. So if you really want to root out fraud, you've got to defund it.

Speaking of Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky, Senator, I know you're a proponent of the Save America Act. So Secure America was this morning with the border and funding for that. You said through reconciliation. Save America has to do with election, integrity, voting procedures, and Democrats oppose this. There's also this situation in California, and I know these are separate but related issues, right, of people showing up. And you're allowed to show like a gym membership as your registration or you can show, you know, like basically anything, any piece of paper that says your name and you live in California is a lawful way to vote in the state of California. At this point, is it, do Democrats just not want there to be any safeguards in elections? Really? It feels like every time there's something that looks common sense. They don't want the common sense. Yeah, it doesn't appear so, but I also think that ultimately it's going to be a losing issue for them. I think most people are proud of their citizenship, proud of their country, and don't want their vote to be diluted by people who are not here legally. But it's more than just citizenship. It is also the mail-in balloting. And there's more than one way to go about this. We should keep fighting it as a federal issue. We should keep fighting it as a party issue that our party is for lawful citizens to vote, and that's it. But we should also fight it state by state. And this is something that nobody else seems to be talking about. For example, Arizona, you have to approve the citizenship. So we check, we've got that for Arizona. It's a battleground state. We still lose it every year. I think the main reason we lose it is they allow people to get 10 ballots in the mail. You don't have to ask for the ballots. And then eventually somebody shows up at your door and says, oh, I've got one already filled out. Will you sign it? And then that person takes and turns in your vote for you. You've got to get rid of that. And the National Party, we raise hundreds of millions of dollars, even billions of dollars. We should go in and fight referendum in states that have referendum, and we should get rid of the mail-in balloting because inherently... It's harder to verify you are who you say you are when you get something mailed in. And this whole idea of harvesting them and people collecting them and going door to door I think is repugnant to the idea of the way elections should be run. So, yeah, we should fight it nationally, fight it as an issue, try to win elections. But we should also go in state by state. I mean, there's a half a dozen Republican states that are doing mail-in balloting, and eventually they're going to become Democrat states if they continue to allow this. Senator Paul, what's your sense of how close the administration is? I know you're not personally involved in the negotiations with Iranians and intermediaries to bring this thing to a conclusion. But what's your sense of how close it is to that, given the President Trump said today, I think we're going to hit him again. And are you... optimistic that this can be settled in time to let gas prices normalize to where they were before this conflict so that that's not a big drag on the GOP and the midterms? The president said today, you know, I was at the White House at the press conferences. He says the deal's done. It just needs to be signed. So I don't know. That begs the question. Are the Iranians going to sign it or not? What I would say is this.

It's going, we have obliterated them. We have entirely, our military completely obliterated them. We won the war. But you still have to negotiate with them because unless you're willing to occupy the country and forcibly dig the uranium back out of the ground, the enriched uranium is going to require a diplomatic deal. And I think it's something you don't have, people say, oh, you can't trust them. Well, this would be verified by them actually handing it over. But what I would offer to them, and you're going to have to offer something, is I would offer restoration of trade, which means we get rid of sanctions against trade. We bring them back into the world's economy. If they give up to 440 kilograms of enriched uranium, it all leaves the country, and then they sign a statement that they won't continue to pursue a nuclear weapon. Now, people say, you can't trust them. They're terrible people, this and that. All probably true, but you don't trust them on getting rid of the enriched uranium. That we will verify. And as far as whether they start up again, if they start up again, we re-institute the sanctions and get started. You know, we go back to an stage of belligerency with them. But I think we shouldn't just offer a little. We should offer release of all the trade and restoration of trade if they will relinquish the enriched uranium and, you know, no longer pursue a nuclear weapon. Some in our party don't want that deal. Some in our party say, oh, we don't want negotiations. The president's wrong. You're going to sign a terrible deal because they think that the regime is inherently not trustworthy and they're bad people. All of that's true, but you don't make deals with good people. You don't make trills. We're not having to do a treaty with Great Britain or with Germany or other allies. It's within adversary. And we can prove they do what they say they will. if we receive the enriched uranium. So that's the deal I would offer. They give up all of the enriched uranium for release of all of the trade sanctions, and then a promise not to move forward. And the promises have to be policed basically with verification in time. Senator Paul, always appreciate you making the time, sir. Thank you so much. Thank you. Born on America's darkest day of 9-11, the Tunnel to Towers Foundation has been helping America's heroes ever since. In this 25th anniversary year of 9-11, we honor heroes like New York City Police Department Detective Eric Kaleha. Eric was a Bensonhurst, Brooklyn native. He dreamed of being a police officer and fulfilled that dream by joining the NYPD in 1994. He worked his way up to the rank of detective and answered the call after September 11th, serving at Ground Zero in the months that followed. In 2022, he was diagnosed with multiple cancers tied to his heroic service. Just five months later, he passed away from a 9-11-related illness. Eric is survived by his wife, Marilyn, and his two children. To honor his life and service, tunnel to Towers, paid off the mortgage on the family home through its fallen first responder home program. Donate $11 a month or amplifier impact with a car or land donation. Go to t2.org. That's T the number two, t.org.

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