Hour 3 - The Midterm Socialism Problem

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The Bronx, for example, which is Adriano Espaillat's area that he was very strong in, there rarely broke 100 votes for precinct, sometimes maybe at most 150. But the turnout numbers were very lopsided in favor of where a socialist was running in a DSA can it was running. Over in Brooklyn, over in the other district where Valdez was running, the only people to really mobilize and vote against the DSA. show up in big numbers with the Hasidic Jews. They did show up in big numbers against the DSA candidates, but there just weren't enough of them. Most of them actually live in Hakeem Jeffries district. And this also goes to show over in Grace Meng's Fisher. Grace Mang is an Asian-American congresswoman Democrat from Queens. She is very unnoticeable. No one knows any of her record whatsoever. She is a very small part of the comming corridor in her district. Nonetheless, in her Asian majority district, she only won by 15 points because in the Asian predominant precincts over in Chinatown and Flushing Queens. over in the ethnic white neighborhoods out in near Whitestone or Middle Village and parts of Glendale. The average turnout was 80 to 100 people per precinct. Over in the Commit de Corridor area, there were three to 400 persons per precinct. So the turnout intensity, Democrat turnout nationwide, has been high. But among those people who are mobilized by socialism, it is near presidential level turnout, even for these kinds of midterms. And the average blue-collar working-class Democrat, many of them who are either ethnically white or black and Hispanic, had nowhere near that intensity whatsoever. So I saw this. DSA co-chair, this was a quote circulating on X. We're using the Democratic Party as a ballot access vehicle, not because we share its goal. This is from the Democrat Socialists or the, yeah, Democrat Socialists of America. We build our own organization, get elected on the Democratic label, caucus with Democrats when it's useful, and push our own agenda from the inside. We see the Democratic establishment as an obstacle, not a home. The DSA. How powerful is it in New York, elsewhere? Is this part of the leftward lurch of the party? What do you see? Well, in New York, New York is the goal, is the crown jam of the DSA network, right? Nowhere is it more powerful than in New York City, especially in the quote-unquote commie corridor where almost every single district. Wait, what's the commie? I'm from New York. What's the commie court? You used to live in a story. Is that part of the commie corridor? What's the commie corridor? The commie corridor stretches. It's every part of Brooklyn and Manhattan that touches the water across from Manhattan.

So it stretches from Astoria Queen to Sunset Park, Brooklyn. That entire strip that goes by the war, every people, all the people who couldn't afford to live in Manhattan anymore back in the 90s that moved to Williamsburg, they have extended themselves throughout the entire, everything that touches the water that goes to Manhattan. And they are all very far left. So all the way up from the top of Mistoria, all the way down to Sunset Park and Bay Ridge, Brooklyn. It's really now to Bay Ridge. So an entire strip of land, those are a lot of seats. And what Democrats did, this is why Democrats are so stupid in New York sometimes, Democrats, to prevent Republicans from winning any local office seats in Queens and Brooklyn, they ran their districts east to west instead of north to south. Had they ran them north to south, they would have given Democrats, Socialists, fewer seats to win. But because they ran them a long ways east to west. they have more seats to campaign and to win because it's a little bit of the commie corridor and a lot of other areas that just don't have high intensity voter turnout. So you have ethnic white areas that voted for Trump that have a local representative who's a member of the DSA. because they refused to give Republicans any seats in the state of legislature in New York. And that's why the DSA is, in fact, more powerful in it even should be, is because they were trying to, you know, get as many Democrats in the state legislature as possible. So Harry Anton of CNN, the poor man's Ryan Gurdowski, he was looking at the data after this election, and there was a graphic he put up on the screen, I'm trying to find it, but it was basically the view among Democrats, not nationwide, but the view among Democrats of socialism, I think it was 10 years ago versus today, something like that. And it has gone up dramatically, and there are people. I saw Matt Walsh, Ben Shapiro, Jesse Kelly. I've seen a bunch of people on Acts who were saying, guys, the Bolsheviks were never popular either, but they started out as a committed minority and then shape things to their will over time. Is the Democrat Party lurching left toward a more open embrace of socialism? Or how does that look going into the midterms? Yeah, I mean, the thing is that, you know, everyone tries to paint this as a New York particular election and as a New York phenomenon or just an inner city phenomenon. Because remember, mayor of Washington, D.C. is now a DSA member. Mayor of Seattle is now a DSA member. Potentially the mayor of L.A will be a DSA member. However, DSA members... have won other primaries. They want a primary in rural Maine. They want a primary in Montana. They have elected office holders now in most states of the country, in democratic primaries. In deep red states, they will find that sole blue pocket and they will put their flag there and then win primaries everywhere else. So yes, that's a big part of it.

What has really been surprising more than anything, and there's been no backlash, nothing from the Democratic Party, is really how there's been a displacement, which for my life, you know, they've always had black. Black candidates run for office as Democrats, being that blacks are the most loyal Democrats are. And now it's a lot of Arab candidates who are running as the DSA candidates, and they're winning, oftentimes beating the black candidates. It's kind of, it's just the observation of how quickly those demographics and that changes happen. But, yeah, so the party is changing very quickly. And what we're seeing is both it's college educated whites, but it's not just. college educated whites. And it's not unemployed college educated whites. Parts of these areas the DSA members winning are very wealthy. These are people who live in three, four million dollar townhouses in Brooklyn. It's also assimilated second generation immigrants. Those Asian, Middle Easterers, sometimes African immigrants, their kids did assimilate. They didn't assimilate to Archie Bunker in John Wayne's America. They assimilated to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's version of America. They have assimilated, and that's why sometimes this woman, the DAC up in Harlem, who's radical, who doesn't believe in biracial, oh, sorry, multiracial coupling, because you shouldn't, you shouldn't not have a relationship with a colonizer is what she said. Well, actually, I had not heard, I'd heard crazy stuff. I had not heard her say that. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. She said, she said, she said black men who fetishized colonizers are disgusting. Yes. Oh, yeah. She's nuts. She's completely insane. But she's, she converted to Islam, not because she believed in the Quran, but because she sympathized with the people of Gaza. She is nuts. Oh, my God. She's perfect. That's a perfect assimilation to, you know, lived hard, left-wing ideology. And that is where they assimilated into mass media and the university system. And so it's perfect. So they have this huge population of younger people, I say younger, 40 and under, because they're not all like 18. Some of them are well into the middle age, but 40 and younger. Wealthy, wealthy college-educated whites mixed with first and mostly second generation though immigrants who absolutely believes the lock, lock and barrel, all this stuff. Our next election that we're going to see is in Wisconsin, where this woman, Fong is for last name. She's running for governor. She is, like she makes this woman look sane. She's running and she's leading in the polls right now. And she's running against the lieutenant governor who is a Marxist.

So there's no end in sight. By the way, also, DAC, you know who one of the people she said was a horrible, a horrible politician for being too supportive of Israel, this candidate who just won in Harlem. Two people, she said, are on her enemies list. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Bernie Sanders. They're too friendly to Israel. There is no bottom. There is no bottom. There's no floor. We're not going to come to a conclusion of this story. You either have to beat them and ridicule them. or and while you have the power, make sure the institutions don't produce more of them or they will take over. So, Ryan, we're just one more for you before we go. That was exactly what I was curious about after this. And so I'm glad we got your take on this. It's a numbers game. Everybody is Ryan's podcast. Great work, great research that he does. Tomorrow is all about this, too, the Friday episode. Oh, great. So, guys, you have a deep dive on this stuff tomorrow, especially for a WOR listeners or people that really want to know what's going on in their backyard. Go listen to Ryan's podcast on this. But just one thing, we had Uncle Bill. We had Bill O'Reilly on yesterday, and he just threw in the mix. that he's just like, look, the Democrats have no leader. And that was interesting because they clearly have some leaders, but I understand what he's saying. I get his point. And I want to ask you, who's the most powerful Democrat? You know, as we're seeing this stuff play out in New York and people talking about Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who is the most politically powerful Democrat in America today? Well, right now it's probably Zohran Mamdani. I mean, probably Zohran Mamdani and Bernie. Bernie has a fundraising list that's bigger than everybody. But Zohran Mamdani, as far as who energizes and motivates people, yeah, it's the shiny guy from the, who's a smiley guy from the Knicks game, that failed rapper, because people have this vision for what he stands for. Even though he's gotten close to nothing of his agenda done in New York, I mean, it's virtually close to nothing. And he's capitulated on crime by bringing on Letitia James, who's pretty hard-lined on crime. And he's completely not who he pretends to do. He's not done nearly what he's pretended done and do. He's probably the most popular Democrat right now in the country overall, I would say. And besides that, Bernie. I mean, it's either Bernie or Zohran Mamdani. I mean, you know, you can't find. Kamala Harris, everyone just laughs every time she shows up in the media somewhere. And Gavin Newsom is just not getting any of the headlines these days. Yeah, he's a podcast host. But that's why right now the Democrats are deciding where to hold their first primary in 2028. They're going to decide on the deep south. It is still old and it is still black. They are going to reject a DSA candidate in the South. Does that mean Kamala Harris becomes the nominee? If Clay was here, this is what he would ask you.

Probably. I mean, I would say. Oh, boy. Right now, yeah. I mean, I mean, right now, yes. That doesn't mean she will. But as of right now, probably, yes. But they will, they will push for the deep south to avoid because they are less scared of Kamala Harris than they are of a Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Bernie Sanders back Canada. Because Kamala Harris is absolutely no, is absolutely. All right, Ryan Grodeski, everybody. Check out his podcast tomorrow on the Clay and Buck Network. It's a numbers game. Ryan, great stuff. Thank you. Thank you so much. On Saturday, July 4th, we turned 250 years old. Our nation's history is something to celebrate, but the real history in our own lives is also something to celebrate and preserve. This is where Legacy Box comes in. Remember all those birthdays, reunions, weddings, funerals, and moments captured on film or video, Legacy Box will digitize your old film tapes, film reels, photos, and audio recordings. Then you'll get them back as brand new files on the cloud, ready to watch and share from anywhere. More than 2 million families have trusted Legacy Box, and they were even recently trusted by the U.S.O. to digitize fragile handwritten letters from World War II. That all happens at their Tennessee facilities, a large campus full of dedicated people and the best technology. to make digitizing your family history possible. Remember, your family story is part of the American story. Don't let those memories fade away. Shop Legacy Box's America's Sale Today at Legacybox.com slash buck. That's Legacybox.com slash B-U-C-K.

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Our guest now is Dan Mason, former president and CEO of CBS Radio. He's got a new book out, Fearless, The Life and Times of a Media Maverick. Dan, great to finally get a chance to talk to you. Your reputation precedes you, sir. Thank you so much for being here with us on Clay. Sorry, Clay is gone. He was going to call in from the beach in Hawaii just to hang out with you too. But I said, Clay, the reception. We're going to hear the waves. The reception is not that good. So you just got me today. But you are a legend in the radio industry, sir. Why are you writing this book? Let's start with that. Well, first of all, thank you for having me. And I've never been, I've never talked to nine million people at once. So that's what Julie Talbot says your audience is. So glad to be here. A lot of people. Yeah, thank you. Why did I want to write the book? I wanted to write a written account of my own life. And I think back to my mom and dad or maybe even my grandparents, how cool it would be if I had that. It's like a roadmap of who they were or where I came from. But that's primarily why I did it. And the more I got into it, I realized in my life and I practiced this all through my CBS days, the things I've learned along the way, I didn't dream that up. It was taught to me by other people. And I also realize that it's kind of incumbent upon me to give that back. It's not mine to keep. So there's a lot of, I guess, Danosom, as you could say. That's, for lack of a better term, that's what I named it in the book. Short things that I've learned will help anybody, no matter what industry they're in. And, of course, Buck, there has to be, oh, probably about 30 to 40 percent of funny radio stories, and that would be bosses, jocks. recording artist i think i've got them all in there so you describe radio in the book as the media backbone of america and chapter seven is titled radio is dead with all the ways people consume content now has that changed or just evolved well i wrote that chapter i thought about walking by a appliance store in about 1960 62 i saw my first color tv And I don't know if you remember it. You probably don't remember this. You're too young. But the whole slug line for advertising was, wow, I saw color TV. So the TV people were out in force talking about radio being dead. And of course, cassettes came along, CDs came along. You name it. It all came along. But here we are, because radio is about companionship and more specifically about making friends. And I was told this once by a very well-known person in the industry. that if you do this right then it should be a one-to-one conversation but perhaps in this case heard millions of times over or millions of one-to-one conversations happening what what is the advice that you would give to people who are in this medium about how to establish that very special that very powerful connection that radio is able to do that things like tv really just it's just not the same i think radio is a much different medium

because it is a call to action medium. You know, you could get on the air, a morning show could get on afternoon, it doesn't matter, and raise money. for a family who had been burned out of their home. You might raise money for the dog shelter to get all the dogs adopted for that day. And it can happen. Little, not so much in TV, but radio is at one-to-one communication. And like I said before, it's a sense of belonging. People want to belong to something bigger, part of a family. And it's about, it's simple. It's just about making friends. You have a chapter about NPR and the whole public funding back and forth over that. Where do you come down on that issue? You're a guy who knows plenty about NPR and what it does and does not do. I've listened to NPR for about 50 years off and on. So I think I'm as good as anyone else in this country to make a comment on NPR. First of all, 1934. the Communications Act established that there would be non-commercial radio stations. And they would get on there and do something a little different that maybe a crazy top 40 station wouldn't do. And that, they always had this snooty attitude, always. And they were very, no matter what, they were partisan. It didn't reflect so much until... President Obama was elected. Now, this is my two cents, so other people may have a different opinion. In about 1967, the government came along and said, you know what, these guys are not making much money, and they need to be on the air still. So let's fund them. And that went on from 67 to recently, 2000, just last year, which was about July. It was challenged in March of this year by a federal judge, but it's still going to be a tough putt to bring that back. It was about $1.1 billion. So I wrote Commissioner Carr, who I gave a tour at 1010 wins, and I told him, I have a solution. I have the total solution for all of this, and nobody's going to sue anybody. And here's the solution, Buck. drop entirely the non-commercial status of those radio stations. I mean, you hear on there, this is brought to you by a fund from blank. This is provided to you by blank. They're taking money, and that's okay. But let them sell, like every other radio station. There should not be non-commercial stations anymore. And you look at Premier Network. If they want to have a network, there is 4,000 non-commercial stations right now in this country. You telling me they couldn't cobble together 400 of those to go out and begin to sell a network ad? I think they could. And I think that as far as ratings go, they sure have those. Where I'm from in Washington, D.C., they're number one in the market. And I know in Washington, D.C., if they put salespeople in the street, they would be the darling of the market, I'm sure. So they can raise money. But if they don't drop that noncommercial status, it's going to be tough.

We are speaking to Dan Mason, former president of CEO of CBS Radio. He's got a book out Fearless, The Life and Times of a Media Maverick. Why was Rush Limbaugh so special? He made a lot of friends. Yeah, he had some enemies too, but he stood for something. And, you know, he was not afraid to. take a position, say who he was, or not afraid to congratulate someone, not afraid to offend someone. I mean, it's interesting with him. He started like in Sacramento as a DJ. And you talk about vision, you talk about passion and desire. Look throughout his career. I mean, he's just, he's a, that should be the mavering, not me. Now, there are, as I understand it, some juicy stories in the book. Can you give us one or two? Can you give us so people can go pick up a copy of Fearless? Like what are some things that they'll find? You have people listening right now, by the way, who are 30-40-year radio devotees. I mean, people generally listen to Rush for 30 years. But you've got people that have been all about this medium, a lot of them. We've also got digital streaming and other things too because we're in the year of Our Lord 2026. A lot of things going on. But give us some stories for the radio folks out there. Well, there's a lot of funny stories. A couple of them I can't tell you because they're too R-rated, even though your audience is probably, I don't know, PG to R-rated, I'm not sure. But the story that comes to mind that is a funny one that I can tell, I don't know how old you are, but Doddy West was a huge country music singer in the early 80s. She had that song, What Are We Doing in Love with Kenny Rogers, which was the number one record. But I was at KTSA in San Antonio as general manager. I was only 27 years old. And my friend worked at United Artists in Nashville, and she was Doddy's promoter. So she calls me and says, listen, we're coming through San Antonio and let's have lunch. I want you to meet Dottie and just talk. I said, sure, I love to meet Dottie. So we go to a steak and ale. And remember steak and ale? We go there and we have lunch. And lunch is, and she was absolutely the most beautiful woman that I'd ever seen in my life at that time. But just. Beautiful. And I would think about all those commercials she do, like I was raised on Country Sunshine, which was a big Coke commercial back in the day. But we're winding down lunch, and she looks at me. And she goes, Dan, I've got a great idea. And I say, oh, what's that? She says, why don't you come with me? And I said, where? And she goes. Dallas. We're on the way to Dallas. And I think you should come with me so we can get to know each other a little bit better. And I say, oh, I don't think I can. And she goes, well, why not? I said, well, I've got a wife and a young son. And I've got a radio station to run. And she looks at me and winks and says, I don't see the issue. What's the point? That was hilarious, at least at the place and time. It was really, really funny.

So I also hear from the team that you got 50, I'm a huge dog person, you got 50 dogs adopted all at once. What was that? Yeah, that was back in Atlanta, probably in late 70s, and we teamed up with a steakhouse. This is a famous one, but. The name escapes me, but they were giving away bags of like bones, like steak bones. But you couldn't do that these days. And that's another thing, Buck. Some of these promotions that are in that book, you couldn't do them in a million years now. But we did a big dogathon and over the air. And sure enough, every one of those dogs found a home. Wow. Amazing. Well, that's great. I'm so happy to hear that all worked out. What are you doing with the profits from your book, Fearless? Profits go to the Broadcasters Foundation of America, and I'm the chairman emeritus of that group. As a matter of fact, we're doing a mixer here in this building tonight at 530 to introduce more people to the Broadcasters Foundation. It's an organization found 75 years ago, probably, and it's there to take care of... people in radio and television with acute needs, like sickness or whatever. And it's really, it's a great organization. So it's a lot of people, older people now, have outlived their kids. And they have nothing, absolutely nothing. Then you've got another segment of people who have been hit by cancer and they can't feed their family. Can't pay the rent. So the money that the broadcaster's foundation takes in goes in direct to those folks on a monthly, monthly check basis. Dan Mason, the book is Fearless, the Life in Times of a Media Maverick. Dan, great, sir, an honor to have you here with us on Clay and Buck and have fun of the party tonight. And best of luck with the book. Thank you so much. Thank you, Buck. All right, team. Well. Switching gears here a bit, I want you to be safe at home and wherever you go. And Sabre simply makes the best non-lethal self-protection tools, and their Saber Smart Pepper Spray is now available on Amazon. The great thing about it is the Bluetooth activation. Alerts up to five contacts the moment it's used and shares your location until you're marked safe. Saber Smart Pepper Spray is easy to carry and can be stored in a purse, backpack, or even your coat pocket. If you've got kids going off to college, the Sabresmart Pepper Spray is peace of mind you can't put a price on. Or maybe you've got an elderly parent living alone. Give your family protection that stays connected. It's so easy to get. Just search Sabres Smart Pepper Spray on Amazon. That's S-A-B-R-E-Sabr-Smart Pepper Spray on Amazon.

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