Veterans Protest Trump’s Iran War at Capitol

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Congressional staffers telling MS now that the cost of the war has now hit $50 billion. The Pentagon says that there have been 415 U.S. service members wounded. More than a dozen are dead. And from one moment to the next, the administration seesaws from talk of diplomacy to rapid escalation, with U.S. Marines seizing an Iranian cargo ship over the weekend and a fragile sea spire set to expire this week, all the while. Americans are paying the price of war at the pump, Trump's energy secretary offering a bleak message on when voters might see relief. When do you think it's realistic for Americans to expect the gas will go back to under $3 a gallon? I don't know. That could happen later this year. That might not happen until next year. Next year, so, you know, after the midterm elections, that could be a problem, especially since 65% of voters blame Trump for those higher gas prices. And Trump's overall approval rating is sinking fast. Just 37% of Americans now approve of the job he's doing as president. That is a new low for the second term. And it means that even many people who voted for Trump are now expressing some buyer's remorse. And while many are hurting here at home, The Trump administration is now reportedly considering some sort of bailout for the UAE, which has also seen its economy hit hard by this war. This story in the Wall Street Journal about the UAE contacting Scott Bessent, about potentially the United States providing some kind of currency swap or bailout if the straight remains closed and it continues to injure their economy. What do you make about it? What do you know about that? Right. Well, I haven't talked directly with Secretary Scott Bessent about this, but as you know, the UAE has been an incredibly valuable ally throughout this effort. And I'm sure the Treasury Secretary will make every effort to help them out, should that be necessary. Add to all of this that late today we got word of yet another shakeup in the Trump cabinet, the Secretary of Labor, Lori Chavez-DeRemer, is out, according to the White House. She is the third member of the cabinet to leave in recent weeks, along with, of course, Pam Bondi and Kristi Noem. We now go live to MS Now congressional correspondent Michael Schnell. She's there on Capitol Hill. Michael, it is good to see you. Walk me through what's behind this latest departure. Yeah, well, Antonio, this news, just a few minutes fresh, that former Labor Secretary Lori Chavez-DeRemer has resigned from her post. I will note the White House confirmed she's no longer serving. But notably, they did not say if she was...

fired or had resigned from her job. As I mentioned, a source familiar with the matter telling me that she had indeed resigned. The big question, what exactly led to this? Because Lori Chavez-DeRemer, her tenure at the labor department had been shrouded in controversy in a number of investigations. More on that in a moment. But first off, we're told that Lori Chavez-DeRemer was actually at the White House in the few minutes that led up to this news of her resignation. Now, we don't yet know who she met with, what they discussed, but she was at the White House. And another interesting. tidbit that we're just learning. Again, I'm just told from the source familiar with the matter, is that in the coming days, Lori Chavez-DeRemer-Dremmer was scheduled to sit down with the Office of Inspector General at the Labor Department as part of their investigation into allegations of a toxic workplace and sexual misconduct by both her and her husband, Dr. Sean DeRemmer. So this resignation comes as she was preparing to sit down for that interview for that investigation, which has been going on for weeks. And first. started with a formal complaint being filed about the secretary's conduct. Now, again, this comes after weeks of controversy and more shoes being dropped in terms of these misconduct allegations against the former secretary. There was most recently discrimination complaints filed by two young female staffers with the Equal Opportunity Commission when they had alleged that there was misconduct sexual touching by Lori Chavez-DeRemer's husband. They also a toxic workplace and threats of retaliation for reporting the husband to various authorities. Again, there had also been that Office of Inspector General investigation. There have been all these questions and whispers about if Lori Chavez-DeRemer would be on the chopping block next in terms of secretaries in the president's cabinet because of all these poor headlines and these misconduct allegations against her. But today we are learning that secretary jumped ahead and would resign on her own volition. Again, we're going to dig into more. details on what actually led to this. But notably, it comes just before she was scheduled to sit down for that high-stakes Office of Inspector General interview. Very interesting timing there. Michael Schnell, thank you, as always, for your incredible reporting. Now, we're going to bring in Michelle Goldberg, columnist for the New York Times and Mark Leibovic, staff writer for the Atlantic and MS Now political contributor. It's great to have all of you guys here. I guess I'll start with what you hopefully just heard me talking about with Michael Schnell there. Just another piece in this incredibly chaotic story around the president, around the war, around our domestic conditions, the basic functioning of our federal government right now. Mark, what do you make of this? Well, I mean, this is just sort of another, you know, another chapter in the chaotic narrative. I mean, I think to some degree, I mean, the cabinet chaos is something that probably, you know, was certainly foreshadowed in the first term. To some degree, this latest one is overshadowed a bit by the Pam Bondi and the gnome resignations firing, whatever you want to call them, just because they were in such. high-profile positions that the president seem to care deeply about much more than he probably does at Labor Department. I do think, though, that the larger issue here is not so much the larger chaos, but I think...

Just the war, the tariffs, the economy, there's a sense that the administration is really spinning in a direction that is just out of control, and it's obviously not popular. So this is probably of a piece to that, but I think it's probably derivative at some point. And I think the main thing is obviously the ongoing war. Michelle, how do you read the extent to which the war is responsible for the polling numbers, the poor feedback this president is receiving right now? Because while his numbers are historically weak, it seems that his grip on the party is still incredibly firm. You see some signs at times of pushback, but at the end of the day, they are still incredibly loyal to this president, even though he is technically a lame duck president and technically not even on the ballot right now in the midterms. Right. Well, so his numbers were already pretty low before the war. The war has sent them even lower. And I think really created a situation that highlights to people the limits of his ability to create his own reality and also highlights just the... kind of blatant contradiction between his campaign rhetoric and the way he's governing. It's, you know, I don't think it's much of a surprise if he followed Trump that he often has very hawkish instincts, but he certainly told people very specifically that he did not plan to start new wars in the Middle East and, in fact, said that if Kamala Harris was elected, that's what she would do. And so you're right that the voters are loyal to him, but... There are some cracks, you know, when he's losing the kind of influencer class that... Again, there's not that many of them, but they were very important, I think, in creating the sense of momentum and inevitability around this campaign. There was a sense at the beginning of Donald Trump's presidency that he had captured, you know, not just the White House, but like the cultural zeitgeist. And that is absolutely gone, right? He's kind of flailing with nothing but the hardcore deadender still behind it. Well, to your point, figures like Alex Jay Jones even. You know, he's an interesting figure because on the one hand, when you look at someone like Alex Jay Jones, you kind of don't even want to listen to anything. They have to say any of their cultural analysis because he's a huckster who kind of will go where the wind blows. But that's sort of the point of what makes him interesting because then that tells you, well, maybe that is where the wind is in fact blowing. I want you to take a listen, Mark, to some of his recent comments about the president. And we're supposed to just sit here and love this crap. It's just poll numbers go straight down to all the polls show the Republicans are going to lose the midterms of seven months by a landslide, a disaster. A total and complete disaster. So is Alex Jay Jones, in your view, someone we should just write off, or do you think he tells us something about where culture is heading?

Well, I guarantee you the White House is not writing this off. And look, I mean, whether we like Alex Jay Jones or not, I mean, this is a big, this is a big center of influence within the... the world that voted for Donald Trump. And I think it's worth pointing out a couple things. I mean, Donald Trump's popularity or lack of popularity, the loyalty of his base and so forth. I mean, what does it even mean these days? I mean, it's not like he's going to be on the ballot again. And I mean, he's already had trouble in the past, you know, getting people to vote for Republicans when he's not on the ballot. I think enthusiasm writ large for Republicans, which is, you know, what's going to be influential in the midterms is really, really low. I do think that the way the president has led and the way the Republican Party has continued to follow pretty blindly is going to be a real, real damper on the party in the midterms. But yeah, I mean, but Alex Jay Jones and Tucker Carlson and Megyn Kelly and the whole group, I mean, they're not going anywhere. I mean, Donald Trump is term limited. So I do think maybe they're looking at, maybe taking a longer view and maybe feel a little bit freer to tell a truth that they might have hesitated to do before. Michelle, you know, Trump has beaten the odds coming back from the dead before. Is there a risk here of us underestimating the president's ability to snap back? Especially if with these peace talks that are supposed to continue, you know, things shift in the war soon. Could he make a comeback? Depends what you mean by a comeback, right? Because he's not up for election again. I don't think anybody is expecting him to be removed from office. I think that there was maybe a fantasy some of us had in the first term that some of his, you know, kind of corruption and misbehavior and mismanagement was so egregious that at some point there would be political consequences for him. or legal consequences. I don't think anybody thinks that that is true anymore, but I don't see a possibility for him to kind of regain the American people because he's not going to change. I suppose there could be a miraculous outcome where the Iranians decide to basically drop all of their demands and Donald Trump can declare victory in this war. I mean, obviously. Anything in this universe is possible. Right now, we're not even sure if the Iranians are going to agree to talk to the administration, although it looks like they're open to some sort of negotiations. But, you know, right now I think it's pretty clear that the United States or Donald Trump at least is desperate to. wrap this up and has no idea how to do that. And so it's veering wildly between threatening widespread war crimes and declaring that the war is already actually over. You know, whether, again, I think we've seen again and again that he has been able to.

solve crises that he himself creates, right? So he declares these tariffs, everybody freaks out, the market tanks, then he backs off and kind of people say that, oh, how silly you were to take him seriously. This is not a crisis that he can unilaterally extricate himself from. And even if it somehow resolves itself, I don't think that the... Whatever momentum, he's always been unpopular. And I think that I don't see even the kind of bare majority support that he had at the beginning of this administration coming back. Mark, so given the fact that the president doesn't have a whole lot of cards, as Michelle just spelled out there to play right now, and this has got to be the best possible midterms environment that Democratic strategists could have possibly dreamed up hope for. You had a piece, though, just a couple months back saying that Democrats aren't built for this. And it was a really interesting one. And it's something that I've... heard from Democratic strategists, worried that they'll miss a really easy layup here. Do you still feel that way now? Yeah, I mean, that was a few months ago. Things have changed a little bit. I mean, I would say that piece was predicated on basically are they built to take on the fascists? Were they built to take on what this administration, the second administration has shown itself to be capable of? And this was written largely, but mostly the end of the last year when the Democrats seemed to be really factless, really disorganized, really not to have a voice. And I think what often happens is the other side overreached and messed up so badly and became. so unpopular. Both parties have done it over the years. That sort of gave a lifeline to the Democratic Party. But I do think that there is some real optimism, bullishness, you know, enthusiasm among Democrats. I would put a little bit of a break on that just because I don't know. It feels almost giddy, and I don't think Democrats are in any position to be giddy given the degree to which, one, they're in such a hole to begin with that they dug in 2024. And two, I mean, the Democratic Party has not fixed their problems at all. I mean, the only way that they have the opening they have now is because Trump has become so unpopular. He's overreached. He's, you know, he's done his whatever he's done. So anyway, we'll see. But certainly there's optimism in the Democratic side, and this wasn't true six months ago. Mark Leibovich, Michelle Goldberg, great to see both of you, and thank you. Coming up, why the Trump DOJ has tapped a notorious lawyer from his big lie push to spearhead his retribution campaign. Also, Bill Nye on the fight to protect NASA's future. And what happens when a president and a mayor go back to school? I know your name. You know my name? Yeah, I know your name.

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And joining me now is Barbara McQuaid, former federal prosecutor. Barbara, it's always good to see you. What is your response to Trump's DOJ now escalating their probes into past elections? And I particularly want your thoughts on the figure that is Joe D. Genova, what that signals to you, a person who's been so deeply invested in the big lie, leading an investigation where he has already publicly concluded that there was a conspiracy. Yeah, I mean, right out of the gate, he's got a conflict of interest. He represented President Trump in his personal capacity when he was challenging the results of the 2020 election. And now here he is, after having made some really outrageous statements at that time, leading the charge into this investigation. There's not even a pretense of credibility here. I mean, we know that there have been a number of investigations into Russia's connections with the election in 2016 that began. the Russia investigation. There was Robert Mueller's report. There was a Senate Intelligence Committee report. There was one by our own Intelligence Committee. There was an Inspector General report. And finally, there was John Durham, who was the special counsel appointed by William Barr. None of them found that there was any conspiracy, that there was anything wrong with looking into this. In fact, having read and studied the Mueller report, I assign it to my students in my national security class, it would have been a dereliction of duty for the FBI. not to have investigated Russia's ties with the election in 2016. So, Barbara, when you look at all of the chaos that is coming out of this DOJ and the FBI right now, do you read the moves that these different people are making as being sort of desperate attempts to stay in the president's circle at a time when he is starting to release people from his cabinet? We hear the reporting that he's interested in firing more people. Kash Patel is one of the people who's come up at times in that reporting, for example. And so are they just kind of trying to make Trump happy because they know this is sort of part of his list of greatest hits? Or do you think there's a real project building here from the retribution campaign to what we're seeing on the election front? Well, it's always dangerous, I think, to try to speculate in what's in the minds of either Donald Trump or any of the people that he has appointed to office because I don't know that they think like the rest of us. But it is certainly a pattern that we saw the firing of Pam Bondi. Some of the reports indicated that President Trump was frustrated with her inability to charge his political enemies criminally. And so as soon as she leaves and now there's this vacuum and a need to find a replacement, suddenly we see Todd Blanche issue. issuing a weaponization report that to me seems baseless about prosecutions under the FACE Act involving abortion clinics. we see Harmeet Dillon launching an inquiry into Michigan about fraudulent ballots when there are none. It's been dispositively considered by courts here in Michigan. And so this, too, seems like an effort to sort of curry favor. And then, of course, the so-called grand conspiracy in Florida, where there's an effort to subpoena people and perhaps charge people and installing Joe de Genova after we see the departure from this case of a career process.

amid reports that she didn't see that the case was strong enough to bring. So I don't know the motivations, but we do seem, I think, to see an intensification of these efforts to file criminal charges or make some hay. And even if these cases don't see the light of day, if there are no criminal prosecutions, people are talking about it. It's in the news. And so it just... advances that false narrative that our elections are rife with fraud and cannot be trusted. And I worry about what that means for the 2026 and then maybe even the 28 elections. Yeah, absolutely. I hear from voters all the time that they are interpreting it that same way. They're concerned about the upcoming midterm elections being undermined. I have to ask you very quickly about this bombshell reporting from the Atlantic about Kash Patel. And just to get your assessment of what the FBI has. essentially become. Of course, he has denied this. The most striking section of this reporting, I know our viewers have heard so much about it today, but it is the section where they describe essentially officers needing to use sort of SWAT-style efforts to bust through to try to get to Kash Patel. They described someone who has been drinking incredibly heavily, something that we know the president who does not drink, does not like in the people around him. But when you just see the details, the depth of the details in this report, what do you think the FBI has become? Well, obviously, I don't know whether these reports are accurate, but I will note that the sources, quote, dozens of people across all parts of interactions with the FBI. And the reporting seems sound. Of course, Kash Patel has challenged it and claims it is defamatory. So I don't know if it's true. But if it is true, this is such a far fall from what the FBI was when I worked with agents. And you think about the epitome of the FBI director was Robert Mueller, someone who was Ramrod Strait, who was a person who worked hard, rolled up his sleeves, and served with honor. And, you know, one of the goals I've always heard at every level of the FBI is don't ever do anything in your personal or professional life that could bring shame to the FBI. That is the FBI way, that you do things, not only the right thing, but you do it the right way and for the right reason. And so if these reports are true that we've got a director who is not just drinking on duty, but drinking to the point where he's unable to do the job, not only is that bringing shame to the FBI, but it is making our entire country unsafe. I spoke to Michael Feinberg the other day, and he worried that repair to that institution will take decades. Barbara McQuaid, thank you so much. Always good to see you. Thank you, Antonio. And still ahead, growing outrage over Trump's ICE detention policies and its effect on the youngest children, a special guest by the end of the hour. But first, stunning new views of the earth setting behind the moon as confusion swirls around Trump's plans for NASA. Bill Nye is here after the break.

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Turning now to the next phase of NASA's mission to return to the moon. Today, NASA unveiled the massive SLS rocket for the Artemis 3 mission, which will test lunar landers in preparation for a future moon landing. But NASA now faces an uncertain future because the Trump administration wants to gut the agency by 23 percent and reduce its science funding by half, which advocates say would be the largest single year cut to science funding in the agency's history. Those science programs are responsible for developing spacecraft, sending them into outer space to observe and analyzing the data they send back. Data like this, a stunning Earth set. This was captured by Artemis II mission commander Reed Wiseman, a truly remarkable view of the Earth, retreating behind the moon as their capsule orbits the lunar surface. Joining me now is a guest who doesn't really need an introduction. It's Bill Nye, the science guy, who also serves as chief ambassador at the Planetary Society. Nye was on Capitol Hill earlier today defending NASA's budget and the value of space exploration. Bill, it is so great to see you. Tell me, who do you meet with and do you think your message was received? Well, so everybody in Congress is on board with supporting NASA. NASA has... funding streams in virtually, oh, in every congressional district in the United States, certainly every state of the United States. And so NASA is very popular, both sides of the aisle. The thing that's happening again is something like the Office of Management and Budget is trying to. cut NASA funding by 20% cut science by 46%. And this is very much not in the national interest. Everyone in the U.S., everyone around the world was inspired by the Artemis II mission where four extraordinary people went beyond the moon and came back. But that's just the beginning. There's so many more things that NASA does. And you had video of the Artemis 3 rocket being rolled out. None of this will be possible if the United States stops or cuts NASA funding severely. And so why this happens is not especially clear, but what happened last time in October, November, the U.S. Congress, Senate pushed back and rejected the so-called president's budget request, the PBR. So tell me, if the U.S. does end up pulling back on all of this investment in science, who or what fills the vacuum you think? Is it, you know, the private companies like Blue Origin and SpaceX? Is it one of the countries that we compete with like China? Where does this go? Well, everybody, two things. First of all, it is not SpaceX or Blue Origin. Those are commercial companies that make rockets. What NASA science does is build instruments, one-of-a-kind, very specific instruments, gizmos, and the support people on the ground and support equipment to operate the spacecraft much farther out generally.

than the moon, respectfully. And then the other thing is, yes, the United States is going to be outcompeted by the China National Space Administration. It's what's happening right now. China, national space is going to put tycho knots on the moon in 2030. barely four years from now, and they're going to bring back samples from Mars, they say, in 233. So there are rock sample tubes similar to this, in size and shape, but not made of plastic, made of extraordinary alloys, that are on the surface of Mars with rocks inside that may suggest strongly that there were once living things on Mars. There is a plan to bring these back, but there is no funding for it. This has been cut. And so China national space isn't messing around. They're going. And I just remind everybody, if you grew up in the United States, 30, 40, 50 years ago, something made in China was considered lower quality and so on. But look around your world now. The things that are very highest quality are made now overseas by very smart people, motivated by the same thing that motivates you and your co-workers, is doing the best job they can to study outer space, to learn more about the cosmos and our place within it. So this is where the planetary society, today we had 130 people on Capitol Hill mobilized, got here on their own dimes. and went to their congressional offices to remind members of Congress in the Senate, this is what the American people want. Investment in NASA. Bill Nye, thank you. I hope the people who need to hear this message, hear it. I'm so grateful that you have spent your career making young people, everyone, not just young people, so excited about science. And I hope that we continue to be a country that is excited about and invested in science. Thank you. Thank you. Up next, outrage as Trump's immigration agenda sees children in ICE detention facilities. I'm going to be joined by a very special guest after this. We're back with new protests against the detention centers that have formed the cornerstone of Trump's mass deportation agenda. Critics making allegations of mistreatment, rotten food and freezing temperatures affecting even the littlest children. One of the enduring symbols of this era is that of five-year-old Liam Conejo-Ramos, who was sent to the Dilley Detention Center in Texas, a privately run for-profit facility where conditions have been described as dire. Over 6,000 children have been detained by ICE in Trump's second term alone. This weekend, outside Dilley, dozens of people gathered in protest. We are giving a whole generation of kids mental illness by putting them through this. I'm very ashamed of my state. And I want to stand up and let them know that this isn't the way to treat human beings. I did not serve my country to have children in detention camps. As a mental health professional, I know that these kids are suffering with trauma. Trauma that cannot be erased from their brains.

And joining me now is Rachel Griffin, Accursa, who you know as Miss Rachel, a children's educational expert and entertainer who has nearly 20 million subscribers on YouTube and who has been using her platform to advocate for children's welfare all across the world. Her petition to shut down the Dilley Detention Center has already gathered over a quarter million signatures. It includes voices like Pedro Pascal and Madonna. It is so good to have you on the show, Rachel. It's so good to be here. Thank you for having me. Of course. You have spent so, so much time dedicated to speaking to seven different families inside of Dilley and trying to just understand the conditions that they've been subjected to there. I want to know what you've learned from them, what you've learned from all of these kids. It's heartbreaking talking to the kids and their families. They're talking about water that they can't even drink that makes them sick. There's been worms and the food. The food's rotten sometimes. And what really frightens me is the dangerously inadequate medical care and medical emergencies. These are basic human rights for children. And we can all agree not to harm and abuse children. It's not who we want to be. And I'm kind of in shock about what I'm hearing. And I don't think people really know what's going on inside of Dilley. And I think... If we all know, I really think we can unite over not wanting to harm children. Absolutely. I mean, it is not only do our tax dollars go to this, but this is a for-profit corporation that runs this site, which I think about all the time. You've been advocating for one teenager in particular who is in Dilley right now. I think she has been there for more than five months her attorney told me. Her name is Olivia. What can you tell me about her? Olivia is incredible. I spoke with her and she's from Maine close to where I grew up. And right when I got on, she said, oh, I didn't know I was going to be talking to a neighbor. And we just, we connected right away. She's a nursing student. She's so kind and caring. She finished high school early. She worked throughout high school serving. food at a cafeteria at a hospital. She became a CNA. She's who we want in Maine. And she's just a wonderful person. She came from the Democratic Republic of the Congo fleeing extreme violence. Her eight-year-old brother drowned on the way. She has post-traumatic stress disorder from that. They were... They could not stay there. And she is just such a wonderful person. And I'm so worried about her. She's lost 20 pounds at Dilley. She is deteriorating mentally and physically. And so are so many children there. And we want to be people who help children develop well. We don't want to be people who harm children. And we don't want children to regress under conditions that we're helping make. We don't want to be part of that. So.

Rachel, you've also been helping another nine-year-old child. His name is Daver, and I want people to see some of the local coverage of his release from Dilley. ICE released Deaver and his parents on humanitarian parole after their attorney petitioned for their release. And after a viral video interview, where Daver asked the popular YouTuber Miss Rachel to help free him. Do you really miss your school and your friends? He wanted to return to school so he could compete in the New Mexico State Spelling Bee. And Daver is back in school, and he actually joins us now, Daver. It is so nice to see you. Hi, David. How are you doing? How is school going? Hi, I'm so happy to see you. I'm good. I too. Devor, what is it like for you now that you're back at school, you get to be with your friends? I know you're preparing for a spelling bee. How are things going? Things are going good when I'm practicing with my mom after school. Yeah. So tell me a little bit about what it was like for you, getting to talk to Miss Rachel, and getting to share your story of what it was like when you were at Dilley. I was anxious, like talking to a YouTuber that I know that I was famous. But you were so brave. You did an incredible job. Yeah. So tell me, what has it been like for you to adjust to being back home? Has it been hard to go back to school? Has it been fun for you? Gone. Happy.

So Rachel, tell me a bit about what you learned from Deaver in your conversations with him, what that was like and how it changed your perception of what was happening at Dilly. Deaver is the reason why I'm here tonight. He inspired me and connecting with him. changed everything. And he's so brave. And thank you for sharing your story, Dever. That's so brave. And we talked about how sharing his story is helping other kids and helping the world. And I'm so proud of him. When I connected with Dever, it was we started just by talking about one of our favorite foods is pizza. And we talked about how we both like soccer. And then Dever was asking, can you please help me get out of what essentially is a prison and hearing Dever talk about how much he wanted to go to the spelling bee and he had won two spelling bees and he showed me all these awards and when he got home but hearing him just want to go back to school and just want to go home and it was just very surreal one minute we were talking about soccer and then the next minute he's asking, please, can you help me get out of here? And he looked traumatized. And he's thriving now. And there's a joy and a lightness and a happiness that he didn't have it, Dilley. And I'm so relieved that he's home where he belongs. And I'm so glad he's back in school, Dever, we connected. when he got home and he showed me all these awards on his wall he he loves history he loves learning and he loves spelling and i'm just so glad you're back home daver i got to see his dog who's super cute and um I connected with his mom, and I'm so happy to be connected to his family because they inspire me. They have such beautiful faith, and they're so strong, and they're helping people now, and they're joining to try and help every kid get home. Dever, it's so nice to see a smile on your face. Can you tell me what you missed the most when you were at Dilly? Oh, miss my dog? You missed your dog? Yeah, very much. I miss my best friend. I miss my whole family. I'm so sorry that you went through that, Daver. Tell me, I know that you have the spelling bee coming up very soon. Do you feel ready? Yeah. I feel very ready. You feel ready? Right now. I have a feeling you are going to be a big success. What's that? Before the counting, that's the pages for I could like spell the spelling bee. The practice words.

Oh my gosh. Ah, that's awesome. That is incredible, Devor. Well, we're going to have to check back in with you when that spelling bee happens very soon. We are so, so proud of you. So happy to see a smile on your face now that you are back with your friends, your dog, and your family, as it should have been. Devor Jimenez, Rachel Griffin, of course. So it is so good to see you both. And thank you. Thank you so much. And a quick programming note for you at home. In the latest installment of my series, Cities Under Siege, we're taking a look at a town deep in Trump country, rejecting a federal immigration center. It debuts online tonight at 8 p.m. Eastern with a special preview on the Rachel Maddow show at 9 p.m. Eastern. We're going to be right back. Before we go, a moment that brought some much-needed joy this weekend. Two of the biggest players in the Democratic Party, newcomer and New York City mayor, Zohran Mamdani, and former President Barack Obama teaming up for the first time to promote universal child care. The pair got a very warm welcome from a group of very cute preschoolers in the Bronx. Is it going good? What? My name's Barack. How you doing? Then what's your names, guys? What name is Sasha? I know you are. I know your name. What's his first name? What's his first name? His first name is. His first name is. You know, you are never too young to be civically engaged, but no visit would be complete without a good book and some good music. The wheels on the bus go round and round, rock and round.

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