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of course, is still trying to find ways around all of this. And that has included these ploys and tricks where they have acting prosecutors and tempts trying to do things that the permanent people, the non-partisan people won't do. And other times really playing fast and loose with whether they have to follow all of these rulings. They've also drafted a legal opinion internally, which says they think they have the power to take state voter rolls. Federal courts, though, have already ruled against that. And so the DOJ writing up its own internal memo about something that violates a court order is itself a problem. The memo claims that they are authorized to compel states to produce their voter lists. DOJ says they want this in order to combat non-citizens from being registered to voter, making it onto those roles. Now, if that is the reason, and that's a big if, They don't need to do this because we already have data and voluminous evidence from the state level that states already do that and you just don't have a lot of folks ever making it on the roles who are non-citizens. And so again, we want to show you the facts and the details, but it doesn't look like a good faith effort. to actually prevent, say, voter fraud or secure the election. It looks, just like the IRS case and some other things that they're trying, like an effort to abuse power. I want to bring in Melissa Murray, Law Professor with NYU, MS Now Analyst. Her new book, The U.S. Constitution, a comprehensive and annotated guide for the modern reader, is out now. You can get it wherever books are sold. The cover... Almost looks like it's going to be the Constitution, the U.S. Constitution, and then it's a little bit of you as well. Well, the Constitution is in there, too. Sure. But, I mean, someone might pick this up. It's like it's Melissa Murray times James Madison, the best collab you never knew you needed. James Madison featuring Rock. Yes. We love it. I love it. So, yeah, because you don't have to be a constitutional expert to know if it were the Constitution, it wouldn't be that dick. That's true. You didn't know the news was going to start with your book. We hope people like it. onto the news, what does it tell you that the DOJ is trying these games? So the whole idea of the DOJ writing a memo that it's now citing. I mean, this is sort of like, you remember that divinal song, I cite myself or I touch myself? This is like I cite myself. The DOJ is like writing memos to cite for the proposition of the president has this authority to compel the states to turn over this voter registration data and give it to DHS. And lower federal courts have said that they don't. The fact that the Sixth Circuit has fast-tracked this question for appeal suggests that this is a... really live issue. And it's one that can really upend the infrastructure of federal elections going forward if there is an opportunity for the executive and the DOJ to use this information and then turn it over and use it in Homeland Security for whatever reason. As you say, there is no evidence that elections are being overrun by fraud by people who are voting who are not supposed to be voting. So this all seems a little pretextual, but it's worse than a pretext because here you actually have the DOJ furnishing the evidence itself of the authority that it has to do this, which is just not something that you see. This would basically be like my students grading themselves and then putting it on their transcripts. The other news from the FBI director, very low bar, but unlike, say, the president he serves, who

admits to unconstitutional plots in public regularly. What does it tell you the director Kash Patel, who's been embattled for a number of reasons, really wanted to say, hey, no, even if it's popular on the right or from his boss to go after the free press in the First Amendment, he claims they're not. Well, I mean, again, you can go after the free press in a lot of different ways. So Kash Patel was at great pains to disclaim the prospect that they are targeting journalists. I'm not sure that they even need to. The president and this administration through a series of lawsuits has basically cowed media institutions into submission. As we know, there is an important precedent on the books, New York Times v. Dan Sullivan, that says that in order to establish defamation, you have to show that the person who allegedly defamed you acted with actual malice. It's a very high standard. It is the bedrock of a free press in the United States. It's what distinguishes the free press in the United States from press in the UK and whatnot. Donald Trump. this decision. And he has tried to sort of get cases to the Supreme Court to overrule it. It hasn't worked. He's managed to do it through these settlements, though, with these media institutions. Like, for example, that ABC News settlement around George Stepanopoulos allegedly defaming him by calling him, like instead of saying sexual abuse. By basically getting ABC to settle, and he confirms perhaps to the public that something wrong has happened and that he has been injured in the way that a defamation suit that had been successful might have confirmed his injury. So through these settlements, he's managed to backdoor his way into getting the kind of outcome he wants. He gets to cow these media institutions. He gets to... ensure their silence going forward and to limit their dissent to his policies. And he also gets to basically confirm that he has been the injured party. So they're already targeting the media. They're just not doing it directly. Yeah. And I think that's a good primer. And some are cowed and some are not. And even Disney ABC is less cowed lately. Maybe they're a little more, you know, caft. I don't know. But not every news organization is going to have the resources of. No, I agree. I agree with the problem set you're mentioning. Aver deterrence problem. But. Kash Patel doesn't want to say he's a part of this. Does that mean that there's some line there? I mean, we hear so much about how nothing matters. You've told us some of your law students say, well, ha ha, the rules. I mean, Kash Patel's kind of on the ropes right now. Yeah, yeah. So I'm asking, what do you think of that? Is that good? Maybe he's looking for, like, what comes next for him when he is no longer FBI director, if that is something that is in the offing for him. I think for the American public, the idea of a free press is bedrock. And the idea that you would target journalists for doing their job is a line in the sand that we ought not cross. This is not something that seems American. And I think the fact that he was at great pains to disclaim that today speaks to that. But again, I want to emphasize whatever he says, this administration is still trying to cow the press every single day. Right. And you're echoing something our colleague Rachel talks about. Watch what they do, not what they say. But. It is important as the Trump approval crashes and we're reminded and people say, wait.

Are you alone? Are you crazy? Actually, no. The country is against particularly the idea that the government, the big government's going to pick our comedians and control what's on our airwaves. It seems anathema. It seems un-American. It is exactly the kind of thing the First Amendment was intended to prevent. Because I'm jumping around with you, and we love starting the show with you because you got expertise, I want to show a little bit of the president talking about this strange thing where the judge really was saying on the IRS front. Wait, is this even a case like who's suing who and who are you? Yeah. Which in the case of a president is one of these interesting legal questions of are you a person? You're a taxpayer. You're also overseeing the tax function. So here was this moment. Okay. A little bit about what is linked to be on both sides. It's very interesting. I have another one where I, you know, I virtually won the Mar-a-Lago break-insent. And, you know, I have to work out some kind of a settlement. I'm supposed to work out a settlement with myself. I'm supposed to work out a settlement. With myself, your thoughts? Said nobody ever. So to get into federal court and to stay in federal court, you have to have what's known as standing. Standing requires a lot of things and injury, but it also requires adversity among the parties. When you are the president of the United States, even if you file this lawsuit in your personal capacity, the fact that you oversee the IRS and now may be negotiating a settlement with this department that you oversee means that there's no real adversity here. You're not at odds with each other. You're... contiguous with each other, in fact. The president controls the IRS. It is part of the executive branch. Therefore, a lawsuit pitting the president, even in his personal capacity, against an agency that he oversees would confound, I think, traditional practices of standing for Article III federal courts. I think this one is going to be really hard for the president to sustain. So translation, because you can't necessarily sue and settle yourself, he would be, well, let me, let me. He would be dismissed and thus lose the case. You would have lackstanding and the case would go away. The case might, well, the case might go away for want of standing just because the president in its personal capacity is overseeing the IRS, although there could be other ways to reframe this, maybe a trust that the president is not involved with, then that could still raise the problems with self-dealing and corruption because he still oversees the administrative agency. Again, this is an ongoing issue with a president who has really become the plaintiff in chief in a lot of ways. And South Park makes fun of him as like this whiner. we have this headline banner on the screen. It's a little meta to talk about it while we're here, but here we go. Judge asked Trump if he's suing himself. I mean, it's because it's bananas. And then this is amidst, and this is you get the final word, amidst the climate where people are struggling and they're paying high prices and they've got gas concerns. They got all these other things. And he's over here trying to use what looks like a trick. I mean, we'll cover the case where it goes. So it currently hasn't been completely detonated yet. But what looks like a trick.

to get himself a tax benefit while people are suffering. So I've spoken about the jurisdictional questions here about the president suing in his personal capacity, but ultimately having it being resolved in the context where he has real, you know, an actual official capacity. There's also enormous ethical questions here about the president reaching a settlement with an agency that he controls that gives him enormous benefits. Like this is a stunning opportunity for unprecedented self-dealing and corruption. And I think that is also what the judge is like. Just. the question of jurisdiction and the president suing himself in an agency he controls, but also what it means to allow the president to go forward and do that. I'm going to close with some true compliments. Which are the best kind? You're a legal expert. You're very smart. You're an author. Arthur, Arthur. Author. Thank you. I appreciate that. That's the whole thing. That was it. Did you want more than that? I mean. with you. You never know what you're going to get. All right. I get it. Well, we love to see our guests win and congratulations on the vote. Thank you. Thanks for having me on. Thank you, Professor. We're going to fit in a quick break and we're back in 90 seconds.

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It was immediately appealed by the makers of Mipapristone, Danko, and Jen Biopro, to the Supreme Court. Samuel Alito, who is the circuit justice for the Fifth Circuit, issued a stay. That stay expired on Monday. It has been extended to Thursday. So on Thursday, we will get more clarity on what the court is likely to do. One of the things that Joyce noted is that the court could allow the Fifth Circuit's decision to continue while this litigation plays out, which would mean there would be a nationwide ban. on Miphyprostone being distributed through telehealth or in the males in the United States until this litigation percolates its way back up to the Supreme Court. Or it could issue a stay that would be lifting the ban that the Fifth Circuit is imposed and let the status quo, which has allowed this medication to be distributed by a telehealth and through the mails while the litigation is pending. That's up to the court. All of that could happen on the shadow docket with very little explanation. Another alternative that Joyce raises, I think, is also one that we haven't talked about in a long time, is that we have the Comstock Act, which is still on the books, and it prevents the distribution of articles meant for, quote, unquote, immoral purposes to be distributed through. through the mails. And all you need is a Department of Justice that's willing to do this. And I think post midterms, we might get that kind of Department of Justice that would be willing to enforce the Comstock Act, which has been lying dormant for years as a kind of zombie law. Yeah, it's really sobering. And it speaks to how, you know, you have to really look at what the agenda is. And what you said, yeah, six justices willing to not only go this far, but do it. outside of any regular order or real substantive process, which to me, I mean, we're running out of time, suggests that they don't even care about looking legitimate. Well, I mean, the Chief Justice the other day was at the Third Circuit Judicial Conference, and he was bemoaning this idea that the public thinks the court is just doing politics, not doing law, but... I think when you have decisions like this, I don't know that you have any other conclusion as a member of the public that you could draw. The fact that they overruled Roe versus Wade the minute they had a six to three conservative super majority, the fact that they overruled affirmative action, Chevron deference while doing it. I mean, these are all pet projects of the right and they all happened as soon as the court had the votes to do it. Yeah. As mentioned, we learn a lot from you, Professor Murray. Thank you. Thanks for having on several topics. Let me tell folks what's coming up because we have. Video of Donald Trump fallen asleep. It's gone viral. People were in the room. A secret United States intelligence assessment that suggests they are not being straight with you about this now costly war. And Republicans on defense while Trump commits another gaffe about finances. I don't think about American's financial situation. I don't think about anybody. Al Sharpton's here next.

The Maga Party is the last breath of the Confederacy, and I'll be happy to see millennials and Gen C. Barrio. There will be no more in your party. The midterms don't come. Y'all are going to get wiped out. Trump going to get dragged out of the White House, and I'm going to love every second. Because y'all loved every second of the suffering that he caused everybody in this country. Starting on day one, we will end inflation and make America affordable again. Mr. President, to what extent are American financial statements motivating you to make a deal? Not even a little bit. The only thing that matters when I'm talking about Iran, they can't have a nuclear weapon. I don't think about American financial situation. I don't think about anybody. He doesn't think about Americans' financial situations. In the pantheon of presidential gaffs, this is a big one, and there's a narrative I've told you where people say, oh, Trump gets away with everything, nobody cares. And then there's the reality that his polls are crashing, Republicans retiring, Megyn Kelly and Tucker Carlson saying he's, quote, evil, and they're done with him. And we're still in the beginning of this. Donald Trump's already crashed to the worst second term approval of any president since we've been measuring. And comments like this obviously doesn't don't help. Democrats hitting him for it. It's good to see Donald Trump telling him truth about him. Donald Trump has made clear that he and the Republican Party don't give a damn. about the personal finances of the American people. I don't see how he has time to think about the financial prospects of the American working class when he's spending all this time thinking about how to enrich himself. He's not even trying. He's listening. It doesn't matter to me. He's certainly not focused on the everyday costs of struggling working families. Costs have gone up, and it's a direct result of Republican policies. Here are the numbers. Groceries, gas, energy prices, regular consumer goods are all up. 59% of Americans view the economy as getting worse. And a whopping three-quarters of the country blames Trump. 77%. I mean, that is just an overwhelming show of unity in our divided times that this is Trump's fault, as inflation ticks up near 4%, a three-year high. Here's how it's playing on Fox. Food prices, grocery prices, core inflation, those numbers are up. We are now deeper in the red. Markets do not like what they're saying. This is pretty devastating, actually. You might expect... any politician, in any party, in any decade to say, I hear you, we're working on it, I'm thinking about it, I feel your pain, yada, yada, yada. The phrases sort of right themselves, right? But Donald Trump has this problem where he often does blurt things that are true. Washington Post said he's been caught in more lies than any other public official ever. So he does lie a lot, but then he blurts things that are true. You heard the Democrats there saying this is true. He doesn't think about it. He doesn't care.

And Republicans have a problem at a time where they don't want to be tied to that. And they've been asked about this gap. The president thinks about American's financial situation. Every time I talk to him, he's focused on affordability. I didn't. He's got a lot on his plate, including the war. When we get the straight of Hormuz reopen, that will alleviate a lot of pressure with gas prices and other things in the economy. That's the speaker's view. Here's some reporting. Iran has restored the operational access to the vast majority of its missile sites. That's 30 out of 33 if you're counting in the New York Times did. That's a long ways from what Trump and his Pentagon were pushing, the idea that even though people are paying a lot and there's no end in sight and we got a bad situation because the straight is closed when it used to be open. At least, at least they've obliterated a lot of Iran's. weapons potential. It's not even true. I'm joined now by Reverend Al Sharpton, the host of Politics Nation and president of the National Action Network. I went through all that. It makes him look bad, but it's all true. I mean, I just went through the numbers and what he's saying and why Republicans are running from what Trump is saying. Your view tonight. When you look at the president saying out of his own mouth that he's not thinking about, caring about the financial status of Americans, while he was headed to China with his billionaire buddies as his friends going with him to cut whatever deal that is there, the purpose of them going. I mean, you have to stop and ask yourself now, I don't care. I'm not concerned with America's finances, but I am concerned about Elon Musk and the two or three other billionaires that I'm going to bring with me that need to get their deal straight with China. So how contemptible is that to the American people? He didn't just say this now at some backward rally somewhere. He said this on his way to hook up with his billionaire boys and board Air Force One that we're paying for to go over to China to... try and work out some energy deals, some technology deals, and all. Otherwise, there's no reason for them to be there. If any other president had done this, he would be the first one calling for their impeachment. This is like spitting in the face of Americans. It's bad enough. You're rolling up the gas stations and the prices $450 up. It's bad enough. Groceries are up. But now you have the guy you voted for if you're in a red state or if you're a member of Maga saying, I'm not thinking about you. Come on, Elon Musk. Come on. I'm going to get these. Let's talk to Chi about getting some of this business straight. And he's saying it out. You know, we've talked and you've lived a career that looks at the slow march of public opinion on civil rights, marriage equality. It can take decades. What does it tell you when we look at $29 billion for this war and the gas reaction that in a matter of weeks, people went from skeptical concern? I mean, nobody was welcoming it, to now just a country, including Tucker Carlson and the folks I mentioned, just wholly against this war. I think that what it shows is that

One, Americans are a lot wiser and a lot more informed. Second, they were overpromised by Trump in the first place. So if you're looking for, if you're a child and daddy promised you a pony and he shows up with a squirrel, you're disappointed because it's not what you were looking for. And third is because he is so blatant and open with it. We've never had a president that would openly show. how he does not care about the average American, doesn't understand what they're going through, and really has no compassion for them. I think that combination cut the calendar because you don't have someone trying to act compassionate or act like I'm getting it or act like I feel your pain. You have somebody that's saying, oh, you're hurting, oh, well, that's too bad. I've got this deal to cut. I'm doing this. I'm doing that. And I think that even the most... Avid fan of Donald Trump has to question themselves, and the rest of them have to say, this is not what we bargained for. Yeah, and it's such a fast seismic shift. I'm going to ask you a question and get your answer on the other side, as they say. The question is, with all of this crashing, if we had a parliamentary system, if we were like England, and they held a snap vote today, would Donald Trump survive it? Because that's just the rules. Lawyers always say, you know, show me the rules, I'll show you the winner. Would he even survive a confidence vote today? We're going to get more rev on the other side. Hi, I'm Angie Hicks, co-founder of Angie. One thing I've learned is that you buy a house, but you make it a home. For decades, Angie's helped millions of homeowners hire skilled pros for the projects that matter. Angie, the one you trust to find the ones you trust. Find a pro for your project at Angie.com. At DSW, we asked the important questions. Like, what shoes are you going to wear? Whether you're prepping for wedding season. festival season, or just planning the ultimate vacay. The right shoes can make or break an RSVP. So own the moment. You've got big plans and we've got just the shoes at the perfect price, of course. Get ready to get ready with designer shoe warehouse. Head to your DSW store or DSW.com today. And let us surprise you. In the U.S., there's a break in every 26 seconds, but when intruders step near, simply safe home security steps up. Stop. This is SimplySafe. Police are on the way. Using AI alerts, U.S.-based live agents help deter break-ins. SimplySafe, no long-term contracts. Save 50% on your new system with professional monitoring at simplysafe.com slash XXM or with promo code SXM. Outdoor deterrence requires a Simplysafe Active Guard outdoor protection plan starting at $49.99 a month. Visit Simplysafe.com slash licenses for alarm licensed information, Tennessee 2012. That's bull crap. He doesn't care about our situation. He doesn't. He's just here for pride and ego. He's not lying. And he proves it. Not only that, but also like food stamps and other stuff, he does not care about our financial situation. The fact that he said that he doesn't care about American's financial situation. That's ridiculous. He's, you know, he's opposite it. You were born with a silver spoon in your mouth. Of course, the American pockets don't mean anything to you.

Americans react to Donald Trump's economy and his comments. We're back with Rev Sharp, and the question was if we were just a different system like England, if there was a vote, would Trump even survive a no-confidence vote today? My guess would be he wouldn't because you have some of his major cheerleaders that would have been screaming in the House of Commons if we're using that as example on his behalf that are now screaming on the other side, like Marjorie Taylor Greene, like Tucker Carlson. But when you start seeing people in South Carolina legislators saying, well, I don't know if we can do what the president wants us to do to cut up Jim Clyburn's district. Now, we don't know where they're going to finally land. But even the fact there's a pause tells me in that kind of situation, if we had the House of Commons, he wouldn't have enough people yelling on the other side. Because he has not only... hurt the American public and said, I don't care. He has put a knife in the back of his own Republican fellow office holders. And he says, I don't care about y'all. I don't care how your districts end up. I don't care what you've got to try to sell in November during the midterms. I'm going to do me. And if you don't like it, I'll get up at, well, he maybe hadn't gone to bed at one in the morning. And I'll write about you on social media. And then I'll take a nap in the next day in the middle of our meetings. Now, Rev, they say it was an alleged nap. Well, if it looks like a nap, it appears like a nap, and you're not like a nap, it's a nap. Respect. And in my day, people who are telling you, I didn't snore, I wasn't asleep. I have a family member. I'm not going to say who. We used to say, well, I was just resting my eyes. Yeah, I've had you. Yeah, here it is. I was just resting my eyes. And it's like, okay, come on now. Right. You're just resting his eyes in the middle of everything going on. And then a little nod. So, I mean, this is a president that stays up all night on social media and nods off every time during the day. It's fair, right? You know, it's funny because you just said something very precise. We'll put it back up. We'll, you know. We'll do it live as your friend Bill used to say. We're actually going to run the video again. Unlike other presidents, he posts 30, 40 times in the evening. Right. And we see it. And he says it's him. He doesn't deny it. So we actually know why he might be tired. To your point, he's allegedly sleeping on the job. literally, because we know that all night he was posting hate and lies. That's what kept him up instead of doing the people's business. I mean, it's quite that literal, isn't it? That is literally what happens. You see the time of his truth social media postings. There's no staff there. There's no one to say, Mr. President, be careful. So he enjoys doing that. It's the real Trump. This is who he really is in the middle of the night. with no kind of boundaries, no body around them, and he gives all of the venom he can all night to where he's exhausted the next day when he's taking care of things like dealing with the war and the straits of Hamos and all that. I'm tired. Yeah. I've been up all night calling people names that are my political enemies. That's my proud. And we know why. And look, you run it back. You know everybody. I always tell folks in New York, Rev knows everybody. You remember Nas.

And famously said, I never sleep because sleep is the cousin of death. You know, you want to stay up. Right. Especially if you're dealing with real stuff. And apparently he didn't get the memo. He didn't get the memo, but I will send him some gnaws. Oh, no, I don't want him to write against gnauz. Let's leave it there. Yeah, we don't need a, we don't need to revive Trump ether battle. I mean, look, Trump might have been better served to just be a battle rapper. and just insult other people, and just save the whole government thing, you know? That could have been a fruitful time for him. Well, I don't know if it would have been better for him, but it certainly would have been better for us. We love seeing you, Rev. Al Sharpton here on many topics, appreciated. When we come back, we're going to show you even more, yes, because everybody's been talking about it, late night reaction to Napgate, and by the end of the hour, we take an eye on these primaries heading into the midterms. I don't know how anyone can see what he posts or watch him in any meeting and think that he's fit for office. I'm absolutely concerned about it. And I know my Republican colleagues are too. They just won't say it out loud. Some won't say it, but we're hearing it more and more. The public is concerned. And Donald Trump is not responding the way you'd want. If you were concerned about someone's mental acuity and they said, I hear you, let me tighten up at work. or on their personal time, that's not what we're getting. Remember, too many things become normalized. I've told you that. It is strange and concerning, but also ridiculous and the kind of baroque symbol of the Trump era we're in, and he stays up all night posting all this stuff. The Wall Street Journal reporting that the recurring online rants are a window into Trump's mind, and serious outlets are documenting it. They note that the current... latest spree was 55 messages sent between 10, 14 p.m. and 1.12 a.m. Monday night into Tuesday. Imagine if you're a parent and you had a teenager posting 55 times in public. That's before you even get into the content. Journal also notes on December 1st from 8.17 until midnight, the president's account, posted 160 times. Some question whether this is manic unhinged behavior. In the news spree, he said things that are, if attempted, Watergate-level scandals. He said that President Obama should be indicted. He posted misleading propaganda going after Democrats. He had these AI images. that again have gotten him into trouble before. We've stamped the AI generated. He didn't. It's, for example, a type of violation to post any sort of misleading legal tender, let alone the president. That's him imagining himself on a bill, and of course you see over there being added to Rushmore. The comics are having a field day. It's nicely nice when Trump's in China because with the time change, his 2 a.m. Truth Social Rants are at a normal time. Trump prepped for his enormously consequential state visit by staying up late on social media, gunking up the internet tubes with a waterfall of paranoid madness. My God, when does this man sleep? Oh, right, right. I forgot. Cole, they're joking about that. Al Sharpton says if it looks like an app and seems like an app. On the news, the way we put it is he appeared to doze off. You can see...

The eyes closed, the head nod. This is as there is volume and people behind him. And it's not like he's out of control of his schedule. If he was really tired and knew it, he could manage that. This is one of his few public appearances. And that made for more material. Trump is falling asleep in the middle of meetings, but he's not as bad as Joe Biden, okay? Remember Sleepy Joe? He was snoozing while inflation just skyrocketed. This is completely different. Today, new inflation numbers at the highest level in nearly three years. Well, well, well. Looks like the Sleepy Joe Er has become the Sleepy Joe E. I guess all of the criticisms and insult he level, they just sort of come back on himself, right? Sleepy Dawn. We're going to fit in a break. Democrats, though, are bullish about these upcoming elections, and I've got a Democratic candidate. Next. Democrats are eyeing the midterms and other local races, and the primaries lead into that. When you think about one of the Democrats who's emerged is kind of the... big counterweight to Trump, no matter who runs the president next time, it might be California Gavin Newsom. And that, of course, comes out of one of the top positions in all of local and state politics because California governor runs, of course, America's most populous state. It's also counted on its own, the fourth largest economy in the world. That's part of why Gavin Newsom, of course, has taken center stage. Now, to replace him, we have Democrats like a Biden vet, Sarah, Congresswoman Katie Porter. A billionaire who ran for president, you might remember, Sire. Former Mayor Antonio Villarogosa, he's been on this program. Another mayor, Matt Mahan. Former Congressman Eric Swalwell, of course, recently dropped out amid scandal. Republican candidates include a Fox News veteran, Steve Hilton. Now, this primary is coming up in a couple weeks, June 2nd. And as we turn to what's going on out there, we are joined by San Jose Mayor Matt Mahan. He's the Democrat running for California governor. Welcome. Thanks, Ari. Great to be here with you. What would you do as governor and would it be different than the current governor I mentioned? Well, all right, thanks for having me. Look, we're going to build on what Gavin Newsom's done, and we're going to fight back against an authoritarian administration that's harming Californians and working people across this country to feed his ego and score cheap political points, whether it's as tariffs who are punishing our farmers, a war in Iran that still can't understand what we're doing there, and we're paying for it at the pump. Gavin Newsom has led the resistance, and in addition to using the courts and the bully. pulpit and all of the tools at our disposal, I also have tried to make the case in this race that the best resistance to Donald Trump is delivering results. California needs to lead the way by building more housing, upgrading our energy grid, improving our public schools, and showing that our values of inclusivity actually work in practice, that we actually can create a better quality of life, more affordable life for people. It's all about opportunity.

A lot of people around the country know about Gavin Newsom from going after Trump. You sort of criticized him as being a little too much, too much of a Trump echo, ditch the internet memes. Why was that important for you to say? You're not running directly against him, of course. And what does that say about the type of leadership you want Democrats to pursue looking towards the next election? Well, I want us to use all of the tools in the toolkit to make life better for people. And as the mayor of the third largest city in California, I simply wanted to deliver the message that in addition to holding a mirror up to Trump, and look, I think what Gavin Newsom's been doing is very important. And we're using the courts as well. I've sued the Trump administration. I appreciate the governor and our AG's efforts to fight back through the courts. But let's be honest. Donald Trump thrives and his movement, this MAGA movement thrives when Democrats fail to deliver results in people's lives. And I have been laser focused as mayor of San Jose and you've seen some other emerging mayors like Mayor Lurie and San Francisco who also get, and we need our next governor in Sacramento to be in lockstep with us. Do we have to end the era of encampments and get everybody indoors into shelter and treatment? We have to remove barriers to building housing so that middle class and working families can thrive in California again. We have to be accountable ourselves for delivering that higher quality of life and upward mobility that has drawn people to the golden state. And now I got 40 seconds, kind of tough, but how do you lower prices and create jobs in California? Well, in California today, we've ironically got a regulatory environment that is sometimes backfired, sometimes to achieve our climate goals. We've got long-time regulations that prevent us from even upgrading our energy grid. If we're going to deliver high-speed rail, clean energy, the housing we need, we've got to make it easier to build and invest in the things that we so desperately need in our state. And that's what I'll do because I've done it as mayor of San Jose. We're building thousands of homes and creating more space and opportunity. for working people. That's what California's got to deliver in the years ahead. Yeah, really interesting. We talk, of course, a lot of the news about these upcoming races. The primaries, of course, got a lot of candidates. So hearing directly from one is appreciated. Matt Mahan, thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. Absolutely. Hi, I'm Angie Hicks, co-founder of Angie. From roof repair to emergency plumbing and more. When you use Angie for your home projects, you know all your jobs will be done well. Angie, the one you trust to find the ones you trust. Find a pro for your project at Angie.com.