Mike Elam on Iran & Trump- h2

GGS on KMOX. Rache is getting ready and she's going to head over and tape Donnybrook. That'll be on tonight, I believe it's seven. And then we'll live on YouTube. So if you're watching basketball, you can check it out later on. Speaking of basketball, Duke just beat Sienna, a 16th seed, 71 to 65 after losing the entire game. Oh, yeah. That was... Yeah, they took the lead maybe 10 minutes left, but it was close the whole way. Yeah. They were excited. They were kicked in the first half. Yeah, they sure did. They got it handed to them. Thank God for my bracket, though. They were down to what? 11? At halftime? Yeah. Yeah, that's Mike Elam. Hi. Um... I'm excited about Rachel being on Donnybrook. Yeah, it is. I record it. So I go back and watch it later. What a nerd. Well, no offense to Alvin and the folks on Donnybrook, but they're in that whole, they're pushing the, what's their... Donnie thing that the big festival that they had. Donny Bash. They're pushing that. And it's got like, so their show is now an hour instead of 30 minutes. And 30 minutes of it is pushing Donny Bash. Yeah. So I'm, you know, we get to that point and I'm like, well, fast forward through the Donny Bash stuff and get back to the conversation and kind of go from there. It's how I lived my life. So you were in D.C. recently lobbying, right? I was for broadband. So trying to get broadband expansion and try to get rid of some of the permitting and all that kind of stuff that holds up expansion of broadband. Yeah. I've only done one thing like that. I used to work for a mediation company, and I flew out to D.C. to meet with Senator Paul Simon. Okay. To see if he would be a mediator for our company and went to lunch with them and got to see the Senate building, and it was really super cool. It really is. It's just nice to go. By the way, the Senate building was a dump. Really? Yeah, it must be an old one or something. Maybe they've refurbished since then. This would have been like in 1993 or something. The U.S. Senate building? Yeah. Wow. Yeah, it was like, it was not nice. It's not as amazing as what you would think. And the thing that cracked me up, have you ever sat in the Senate chambers? No. Nope. So you can, if you go there, so if you go to D.C., you want to go to your Senate. Senator's office and ask your senator for a gallery pass, and they will give you a pass that allows you to go sit in the gallery and watch the Senate. It is the most boring thing you have ever done in your life. Because on TV, you see these guys come out and speak and you think, oh, there's all this debate going on. All the senators are in the chamber and they're all doing this. Nope. It's one guy standing there all alone. Put it on record. No one else is there. Just putting it on record. Sometimes they've got charts and everything. And Senator Robert F. Kennedy Jr. spoke the day I was there.

I love John Robert F. Kennedy Jr.. That guy is hilarious. He's got the best lines of any senator. If you haven't read his book, it's really funny. And the audio book is better because he reads it. His lips are too moist for me. Oh, man. He goes on everybody. I do. He talks about the fact of Lindsey Graham is a great guy because you never know if you're going to have an in-depth policy discussion with him or he's going to puke in your fish tank from drinking too much. See, I don't like him for the exact reason you like him. I can get my bad comedy somewhere else. Okay. I feel like that's his go-to. Like, it's entertainment Darwinism. Like, we tend to repeat the things that we are rewarded for, and at some point Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said something, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.-ish. And everybody liked it. They did. So now that's all the guy can do. And it's just because he's different. He's not like a lot of these other guys. What do you think of Markwayne Mullin? I don't know. I'm concerned about taking these guys who are brand new, basically, and elevating them to your team. And I'm like, hmm, okay. Like, I really like Eric Schmidt. And I was really happy when Eric Schmidt did not get picked to be the attorney general. I'd like you more if he do this show. Well, that's true. He should do this show. I don't know why he wouldn't do this show. He loves baseball. You love baseball. You should definitely. He and I've always gotten along. See? He knows I'm not a bomb throwing. So if you know Eric Schmidt, please tell him he needs to be on the DGS tomorrow. So we can make that thing work. But I was happy. that Schmidt didn't get on Trump's cabinet. Because I think Schmidt could have a long career in the Senate. And it's good for Missouri if you have that. So, for example, here's something I learned while I was in D.C. And Kevin, I know you're going to hate this because it leans on everything that you hate about politics. So the longer. This is pretty much true. I'm just glad you like me. I'm happy about that. I feel very honored, actually. So what I found out was the longer that you're there, the more power that you get, not just in your influence, but Dick Durbin has been a senator in Illinois so long that Dick Durbin has twice the amount of staff that Schmidt has. Just because he's been there so long and he's made it all the way up in leadership, these guys have like a wing of the Capitol that they are in. They have all these different people. And it's kind of amazing to watch how all that stuff works. It's so entrenched. And when you see the old joke of, you know, when you watch the sausage being made, it's pretty ugly. And it is. But it's also really interesting to watch and learn. And I like going just for that. Perthetically, I don't understand the hierarchy. It would seem to me that being a senator would be a bigger deal than being a temporary secretary. Am I wrong? No, you're 100% right, I think. Because to your point, if Schmidt would have got Attorney General, he's four years and then he's done.

No one likes Iran, right? I mean, I especially don't like them because I've told this, I'll tell it quickly. In 1979, when Rocky Sickman was taken captive, I was in high school. Okay. Two of my best friends were Iranian exchange students. They got abused horribly at high school, as did I, because I was loyal to them as friends. So I don't like Iran. I don't trust Trump. So, and I'm just being very honest. I get it. It wouldn't matter whether he invaded Canada or put his face on the $2 bill. I don't trust him. Okay. So he has a big wall to get past with me. So far, it seems like Iran is sort of rope-a-doping him. They're just letting him pummel them, which is not great, but they kind of also don't care. They know that they own the Strait of Hormuz. There's very little that anyone can do about that. They know that the rest of the world is pissed at us because of all the stuff and the shenanigans and terrifying and we're going to take over Greenland. So I don't feel like it's going well. I want it to. Yeah. I certainly don't want to see any of our people hurt. Right. I don't want to spend a trillion dollars on this. But I guess the fight had to happen at some point. I'm just not sure about the timing. Yeah. It's one of those kind of things where... Marco Rubio, I thought, had the best explanation when he said, they said, why now? Why all of a sudden are you doing this? And he talked about the fact of not that Iran had a nuclear weapon that they were getting ready to shoot at us, but what Iran was doing was building up all this arsenal of drones and missiles and everything and the infrastructure that they were building. And I can't remember the number they were talking about. How many drones and missiles a day? Iran was building. And the whole idea of their program supposedly was they were going to build all this infrastructure up to the point where you couldn't do what we're doing right now. And once they had that built in where they were fortified, then they could build whatever the hell they want. And there's nothing we could do about it. So this was an opportunity to be able to get it. And when you had all of the leaders together at one time, They had to take it. I could be convinced of that. Yeah. That, you know, I said it was probative to me that the six presidents before Trump didn't attack. Right. I don't think it's just because they're all wussies. Some of them, I think, were. But at some point, sure, timing is different. And were it a commander-in-chief who I liked and trusted, I would feel very differently. Maga thinks he can do no wrong. I will admit, I don't think he's very smart. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. He's probably not as dumb as I think he is. He's certainly not as smart as MAGA thinks he is. It's interesting to me that the positions that some people have taken, especially on the Democrat side of this, that it made me wonder, you know, if it wasn't Trump, let's say it was Bush who did it. Another Republican. Oh, we don't have to let's say because he did do it and it was a massive failure. Well, not the same, though. I mean, if Bush was doing what Trump is doing right now, well, what? Well, all they did, the only difference is they cooked up a bunch of evidence that turned out to be bull crap. And then they made a big presentation at the United Nations, which turned out to be bull crap. At least they went through the dog and pony show of trying to show us what the evidence was. And it was all bogus anyway. And they didn't end up finding any of the things they thought they were going to find. And we wound up being there for 20 plus years and how many countless people dead and how much money spent.

And I think what you saw with Bush, though, compared to what you're seeing with Trump, is the Democrats got on board with Bush. Not all of them, but enough of them. Enough of them. Did Hillary? Yeah, Hillary did. Yeah. They got on board enough to where they went, okay, this looks believable, right? And we're on board with you. We're not thrilled about it, but we're going to go with you on this. I think. There is a large contention of this country that Trump could come up with a way to cure cancer and they would fight for the fact that they want the right to still have cancer and you can't go cure it. I really believe that. That's ridiculous. There are people who hate him that much, Kevin. No, no. There is not a person on earth that would say don't cure cancer because it's Trump idea. Not one person. If you want to give a real normal example, they're out there. That's ridiculous. Okay. Fair enough. I'm trying to make the point. So perhaps I went too far on making the point. But the point that I have still stands. There are these things where... They just hate him so much. They can't get beyond anything that he would do. And it doesn't really matter. I hope this Iran thing turns out well. I'm on board with what he's done so far. To Kevin's point, I don't want a 20-year war and I don't want boots on the ground. How is how of any of our actions in the Middle East ever not taken that long? In fact, all of our problems in the Middle East started with our meddling in Iran in the 1950s. So where's the good logical sound evidence saying that anything like this at any point is a good idea? Afghanistan basically brought down the Russian, the Soviet Union. So where are we going to find success and how are we going to define it? And that's the problem, right? Yeah. Is how do we say, here's the goal, here's how we achieve it, and here's how long it's going to take and here's the cost. It's always open. And this is not him, like just him. This is all actions like this. It's Vietnam. It's Iraq. It's Afghanistan. It's everything we've done like this. And the only thing we know for sure is it's going to do is it's going to cost a lot of money and Americans are going to die. You know, it's kind of crazy. What's that? You guys will totally get this being in the media. Is when is the last time you heard a real conversation on television about Ukraine? When is the last time you heard anything about gossip? Completely off the radar. Completely off the radar. Yeah. And it was just everything. We are just, we are so shiny object media that, hey, don't worry about this. If you, if you want that to go away, then let's go do this. And some people think that that's one of the reasons why Trump bombed Iran because he needed a different story. I mean, and I think part of the, like, I think there's, you're correct in the basic premise that we were, you were talking about earlier, that the opposition is going to be almost immediate in part from, you know, especially from Democrats, because.

They need to show their voters that they're going to fight back against it. Especially in the election year. But there's also the other side of that, which is they won't talk to Democrats. They won't ask them for input. They won't take their input. And they won't show anybody the evidence that they purport to have. So there's a lack of trust, but it's not a one way street. This isn't just one side doesn't trust the other side. It's the side in power not wanting to share any power, not wanting to share information, just like the complete ignoring of a law that says all Epstein files need to be put out without being redacted. That's a law. One person voted against it in Congress. One person, and they still won't do it. So why would I trust you with anything if you won't follow a law that was very specifically written on this? You won't follow the law. You won't talk to people. And again, not in any way taking away the criticism from Democrats. They deserve it to because they're weak. They don't take the right tax. And I think they play politics more than policy. And I hate that because it's the whole point. You're supposed to be there to do things, not to just win elections. But there has to be the consideration of the other side of that argument. The side in power does not want input from the other side and won't take it and won't listen to it and sees listening to that as weakness. You know, you can have a lot of fun tomorrow night at Trump Lincoln Days in St. Charles. Just stop by Old Hickory. It'll be a great time. We're going to have a lot of folks who are going to feel exactly like you. Can you imagine if you said any questions and you see a red arm going on? Oh, my gosh. And this is what happens when you don't wear green on St. Patrick's Day. That's right.

Well, this is a tiny little segment. Do a couple fun facts. In medieval England, if an accused person did not have 12 people to vouch for his innocence, he was presumed guilty. Jeez. They did some things back asser, didn't they? Right? Everyone just died and killed each other back then. It's just crazy to think. I think about that all the time. It's just the constant like death and killing. What do you guys think the percentage was of like people wrongfully put to death? And the person who did is just getting away Scott for you. Yeah. You gotta think it's a lot higher when you hear that step. Yeah. Even like in the 1950s in America, if you were tired of your wife, you could just kill her and put her in a suitcase. Everyone's like, well, there's no fine in her. Yeah. If someone didn't see you do it. Right. Then it's like, well, if a cop didn't see you do it. Right. But even then, though, if it was, like, let's say, quote, credible person, if they made something up, people would believe them. Yeah. Because that's all it was. There was no DNA. There weren't any videos. There's nothing. Yeah.

I didn't know it started like that. I forgot that I was like, there's a jaunty little number. And then it opened with the hell mouth. And I was like, ah, man. That is such a killer. And, like, this happens to us all the time where it's like, ah, it's a great song. Let's run it. Let's run it on that one. And then you forget that it has the, you know, it's not the radio at it. So it starts with the seven minutes of backwards talking and, you know, wind chimes or whatever. And you go, oh, it's just death. I'm flop sweating sitting here listening to that. It can be a pretty consistent theme in the heavy music I listen to as they kind of start off slow for about 20 seconds and then punch you in the face. I just want to get right to the punch you in the face part. Sitting behind the board, you know you've got about five seconds before Dave kind of ticks his eyes up. What hell is this? And you go, I don't know, it's Rio by Duran Duran. I didn't know it would start with summoning a demon. Waltz, yeah. You guys want to hear a sad story that ends up well? Sure. Yeah. A dog was abandoned in Georgia with a note around its neck saying, this dog is stupid. He climbs fences, digs, runs from everyone, peas and poops in the house, and was just left. Like tied to a telephone pole or something. My wife did this to me once. And so someone adopted the dog and said the dog is actually very sweet. Yeah, because the person who own them is the stupid one. Yeah. If you don't train and monitor your dog, then you're the stupid one. The dog's not stupid. It will. I've never met a dog that can't be trained. To be housebroken. There are like aggression problems with dogs that I do think that's a different thing. Can get to the point where they're borderline impossible to fix. But when you are. Correct. But that's not the same as what that's talking about. When you are talking about dog things that dogs do when they're dogs because they're dogs. And you can't. There's a couple of people in my life that are dealing with something like this right now where it's like. They're like, we just don't know what to do. And they're like, there's nothing to do. He's a dog. He's doing dog things. Like, take him to a trainer, try and get him trained up or whatever. But you're probably never going to break him of the barking or whatever it is entirely because he's a dog. It's what dogs do. A lot of the issues that were just described in that note are about the dog being ignored. If you exercise your dog, if you train with your dog, if you play with your dog, if you build a relationship with your dog, none of those things exist. Now, they'll have, you'll always have accidents at times. You'll have, you know, if dogs are jumpers, they're very excitable. Well, then you just need to make sure that you're accounting for that. That's not the dog being stupid. That's you not knowing what you're doing. A couple more fun facts for you. One out of every 14 Americans under 70 owns a copy of Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon.

How many? One out of every 14. Oh. I'm one of the 13. Yeah, I'm one of the 13 as well. The person who is credited with introducing macaroni and cheese to the United States was, any guesses? Johnny macaroni. I'm going to go with George Erstwell, Washington. Columbus. You're very close. Thomas Jefferson. What? He brought the recipe back to the U.S. after a trip to Europe, but the real credit should go to Jefferson's enslaved chef James Hemings, who is the real mastermind behind the American version of mac and cheese we all eat today. He Jefferson did that? Yeah. Hemings, huh? What the world? There's a last name. I would have never guessed that. I was Jefferson's life. Yeah, I know. I mentioned yesterday that Punch the monkey now has a girlfriend. He was spotted kissing her yesterday. Her name is Momo Chan. You know, I actually kind of find that inappropriate. He's so young. He's a baby. Yeah. How old is Momo Chan? Do we know? They're similar to age. They look the same in the picture. Like, they're almost the same size. Yeah, so does Bill Belichick and Jim Jordan Hudson. No, they look quite different. They look quite different. He's a 76-year-old monkey. Is he really? Something like that, yeah. Yeah, he's pretty old. Literally, I mean, he's that old. Like, he is almost old enough to be her great grandfather. Damn. Born in 1952, he's 73. Yeah. Andrew, what's the burger place you can't go to any longer? I can't go to nasty-ass burgers anymore. I don't know of this. What's this? So this is a place. It was a homeless man in Atlanta. Okay. And he opened a quote-unquote restaurant. Tough for a homeless person. Tough for a homeless person who has no way to cook things. And he called it nasty-ass burgers. A-Z-Z-Z. A-Z. All right. And he would sell burgers, and he would sell it with his secret sauce. Oh, boy. He wouldn't tell anybody what was in the secret sauce. Yeah, look out. And what's really interesting about it is he managed to get accepted onto the delivery apps. So you could DoorDash Nasty As Burgers. Right to your house. And he's, he's unfortunately been shut down because too many people complained to, I think they actually complained to like DoorDash. About sauce. Like, hey, I got, yeah, basically, like, hey, I got nasty as burgers with the, with the secret sauce. What do you expect? I got food poisoning from there. They're literally called nasty as burgers. It's called nasty. From a homeless guy. Now, you're looking for something to eat, right? You're looking for something to eat tonight. Maybe you're in the zone. You're having a good time. You're watching TV. You're in a good mood. You're like, let me go on that. If you can dash, nasty as burgers. What if they got? And you see a place called nasty as burgers. And you think.

Yeah. That's pretty good. Let's be honest. If that was kind of like a nice little interesting downtown setup with a cool bar attached to it, it's great. Yeah. But it's from a homeless guy. But it's a sight unseen also. You don't know that it's a cool. It's a cool spot with a nice bar attached. I feel like I was a bit of a Karen last night with my DoorDash. Oh? I didn't eat anything all day yesterday. And so I was going to reward myself. So I got Burger King, which by the way. I got the new whopper. Mm-hmm. I don't like it. There's a new whopper? Yeah, they came out of the new, like, when they came out of the big arch, they changed the whopper a little bit. Or did they, is it, is the old whopper still there? Oh, is this the like, you made it whopper or whatever they call it, where it's like. I don't know. I could be wrong. I just know my whopper last night was different. No, you know what I see here. The quote-unquote new wopper. It doesn't, it doesn't look great. Yeah. It was, I like a whopper because it's wet. Yeah. I like a nasty burger. Yep. And this was just like a dry ass burger. Like nasty ass burger. It looks. Nasty ass. The picture looks pretty dry. I love a whopper. I think a whopper is the finest fast food burger there is. But this photo of the new whopper that somebody posted does look very dry. So I also ordered two chocolate chip cookies. And guess what? From B.K. Burger King? And they didn't come in my bag. Oh. So I alerted DoorDash. Do they sell cookies there? They do. They're pretty good. They got pies and stuff. I alerted DoorDash. And they offered me immediate credit of $3.21. And I said yes. Yes. But then I felt bad about myself. No. Why? Because you got money back for something you didn't receive. That's how I am. I know what you might be thinking. Nobody gets punished for that. There's no like. Hey, driver, we're taking $3 away from you and give it to this guy because he didn't get his cookies. Because it's not up to the driver whether you get your cookies. Driver's just picking up the bag. Right. Burger King will never hear about that happening. Right. It's literally just them going, please use us again. Yeah, cost you doing business. Yeah. There is literally no downside to you doing that and you should not feel bad about it. Again, I will not. That is like saying, oh, I think I upset Microsoft. Like, no, don't be upset that you asked for a refund from the multi-billion dollar conglomerate.