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She has 104-1 FM KMOX. Happy Tuesday. It's quite an opening song. Thanks. What brought you there? I don't know. I've just been listening to like the four tops lately. Nice. I've been listening to a lot of Motown. I enjoy it quite a bit. Love Motown. Underrated. phase in music. Isn't it enough credit? I mean, it gets credit, but it was... I mean, it's definitely faded out from when I was a kid. I remember when I was a kid, KLOU was like all the amount. I think we could argue that almost everything pop music now comes from that. The groups, the groups of people, you know, I mean, like... derivations of what boy bands are. Those guys weren't boy bands. They were men, you know, singing in groups. You know, it wasn't like teenage boys that were thrown together. These guys actually had talent, the Motown guys. I'm teasing. But yeah, I think maybe that idea started there where it's like groups of people singing and a lot of movement on stage and a lot of, but what preceding that? What was the way that it worked is basically just bands and people standing on stage playing instruments. It wasn't really. a big show and a lot of movement and a lot of you know i don't know i mean before that it was all big band era big band and like the lennon sisters and things like that and then into like bill haley in the comments and interesting yeah That's a big piece of the evolution of modern music right there. And I really am curious about because like when I listen to Phoebe's music like on a road trip with her or something, I've said this before. As a musician, I get it. Like I could play it. I see what you're doing. But it doesn't appeal to me. And you just wonder what is next. I always pictured, like when I was a kid, I pictured music today to be like, beep bo, beep, bo, you know. What's all of it is? The music of the future. Yeah. Everyone just is covered in foil. Yeah. Eating little gloves of... Wheels brought something up right before the show that really brought back memories. He said, remember in school when the teacher would say, it's time to put your head down on the desk? Yeah. And Ray had something to say about it. And wheels had something to say. And all I'm thinking was, I wish I could do that right now. Yeah. I wish as an adult we had. Can you imagine? We just have a break. Someone comes through and they're like, okay, I want all of you to put your heads on your desk for half an hour. You're like, woo. I'm going to start doing that when you guys get out of hand. We're like, guys, it's time to put our heads on our desks. It's quiet time. That's pretty nice. Yeah. I like that. Movie day. Movie day was great. Oh, man. When they would wheel that thing in. Yeah. And they're never good movies. They're always hemo magnificent or something like that. I was trying to teach you something. In freshman year, you had to take one semester of gym and then one semester of, like, health class. And our health teacher was the wrestling coach. And I don't know, every couple weeks, he would just put on a movie. Like one week, we watched the Road Warrior. Huh.

And he goes, personal safety, don't do anything you see in this movie. And then plays the movie. Did you guys have any sort of sex ed in Catholic school? Yeah. Yeah. I think started in fifth grade. Well, like, sort of. Yeah. You know what they say? We sort of did. Yeah. What do you mean, sort of? It wasn't comprehensive. Not what you're looking for? Yeah. It was like, I think they're leaving some stuff out. Yeah, like, it was clear that there was like, you know. It was a missing piece. Yeah, it was like big jumps, you know what I mean? Like, we didn't make any stops along the way. Gotcha. It was more of a science angle. And you could have used it because you thought sex was throwing up on people. Let's just... Fifth grade Catholic school sex ed did not disabuse me of that notion. That's how non-comprehensive it was, is I walked away going, yeah, I guess I can still make sense of it. Very funny. I just saw, I've lost track. I haven't been to Alaska in 30 years more. But I think today was the day that the sun went down for the last time. And so it's like the 30 days of night. You have 30 days of light. And I remember so well there's a place in Anchorage called Chill Coot Charlie's. There's a big like a Dave and Busters, but for Alaskans. And I remember coming home from that like three in the morning and it looked like what it looks like here at about 6 p.m. And they had, I want to say they had lead in their drapes. just to block it out, to block out the sun. Man. Interesting. And, you know, then it was normal. And then the 30 days of dark, I don't remember getting like that bad in Anchorage. I'm sure farther north it does. What about the vampires? The vampires were bad. I know. What was that movie? 30 days a night. Oh, is that what it was called? I was going to say Twilight. I didn't know that was called. Twilight.

David Scruggs. I haven't seen David before. LaDave says, not trying to start an argument, Kevin, but are you saying that boy bands like InSink and Backstreet Boys are not talented? Well, congratulations. He's started an argument. That's what I'm saying. How many of those folks had staying power? Justin Timberlake. Yeah. He's definitely got talent. Not trying to start an argument here, but I am going to confront the most argumentative person on the planet. Oh, he's playing around. David's playing around. I think they're all talented. I have trouble thinking of a musician who has, quote, made it, who... I wouldn't think it's talented. Well, they're talented in, like, different ways, right? Like, I think you could argue maybe NSYNC aren't, like, super talented songwriters because they likely didn't write those songs. Wasn't the assignment, though. No, that's true. You could say they're talented singers and dancers and choreographers. A lot of them have a hand. They don't, they might not be the lead choreographers, but they have a hand and, you know, coming up with their own dances and stuff. So it's a different type of talent. Well, the position isn't that they don't have talent. The position is... they're not near the level of the Motown people. That's a different level to me. Different things. Yeah. But like talent stays. I mean, people still play the four tops literally 60 years later, 70 years later. And I don't know that if we're another 30 years down the road, we're still going back to the back street boys. Yeah, I've always found that interesting the way that my... Kevin's ready to say bye, bye, bye, bye, the way that my generation still sees our bands, because they're old as hell, but they're still out there. And my example is always Fall Out Boy, for some reason. Like, will you guys go see Fall Out Boy in 20 years? Kind of thing. Probably not me, because... I don't really want to go to that show. I don't know. I like that band, but I don't know if I want to go to their show. I don't know if you guys have any bands like that. Here's the problem. I have tons of them like that. Most of them are like that. But that's just because I don't really like going to concerts. Pre, like, 2008. that's like my favorite band. I like every single song that they made and I still listen to them all the time. Post 2008, they've been like absolute dog poop band. So I wouldn't go see them. I wouldn't go see them just because I haven't liked anything new that they've made in 20 years. And, you know. But like if the strokes are touring in 30 years, I'll go see the strokes. I'm trying to think of, and we've done this before, I'm trying to think of a band that has been really consistent over 20 years minimum. Oh, it's almost impossible. It really is. I mean, Sue Fighters were. They've been around for such a long time now that I just don't even listen to the new albums as they come out. I'm just going to die. I'm with them, I'm the same as Andrew is on Fallout Boy. Like, their first two albums are great. Since then, I couldn't care less about any of it.

Not to say it's bad. I'm not saying it's bad. I'm saying it's not what it was. Yeah, it just feels like you just run out of it. Of your stuff. Seems like the normal pattern, right? The ones that last are the rare ones. 95% seem like they've got a few albums in them where they're at their highest level. And then after that, it's just trying to hold on. Well, look at someone like Johnny Cash, who had so much early success. And then later in his career was working with, I think it was T-Bone. Maybe it was Rick Rubin he was working with. I can't remember. But, like, put out, like, that great cover of the Soundgarden song. And, I mean, he... He kind of had a second phase. I don't even know if it's like, you have a certain amount of magic and it runs out as much as it's you have your time in the sun and then people are going to move on to the new thing. It's also hard to like what drives most people when they first get there is the drive to get there, right? Yeah. And your creativity is at its peak because it hasn't gotten out there yet. You know, but once you've put out 50, 60 songs or more. You're starting to be, you're a special person if you're still putting out greatness after that. Like, I think that's what separates a lot of the greats. Born to Run is like one of the greatest albums, hands down, flat out ever written, whether you're a Springsteen fan or not. it's flawless and the reason for that is because it was his absolute last chance to make something good he was like if this does not work no one's going to people had told him you're not we're not going to give you another chance we're not going to give you you know more shots you got this one last chance to do something big or that's it meanwhile down the road he's one of the most famous people in the world he's got more money than jesus and You know, it's hard to, it's hard to, when you're not hungry like that, it's hard to, I think, really produce something that can rise to the level of greatness. You know what I mean? I think that it's, there's a... A lot of people have said similar things, basically. It's just, it's hard to write when you're perfectly happy. It's hard to come up with, like, you know, really emotionally resonant music when you're, like, sitting in your mansion or out by your pool or out on your boat or whatever. You know what I mean? Like, it's, it's... So, think about Paul McCartney, who is clearly, clearly an all-time grade. Right? Like, if there's a Hall of Fame of Hall of Famers, he's in that second Hall of Fame, right? Mm-hmm. What's he made in the last 40 years that's any good? Yikes. Temporary secretary. Yeah, there's one. Greatest song of all time. See if you can find that. I'll come in with him. I'm not even pick it on it. To me, he's one of the all-time great songwriters. And on the run came out in like 2002, didn't it? That's pretty reason. Yeah, that was when I was like four. I mean, live and let die might be the last thing that I would listen to him from him and go like, that's awesome.

And it's not his fault. I think that happens to everybody for the most part. Yeah. Yeah, I feel lucky to be in this creative job, pardon me, because for the past, so people say like, oh, man, DGS was so much funnier when it first started. When it first started, I was insane. I was. Like, I was 36 going on 18. I was like a kid in a candy store. I had access to all this stuff. I had producers and Jim Modulin and we'd do all these voices and characters and all that kind of stuff. And I had a lot more jet fuel. But I'm lucky in that, unlike most creative jobs, the table set for me every day when I come in. Right. New stuff happens. Right. Is that what we do? We talk about stuff that happens in the world. stuff we think about and you guys hopefully like it and there you go. Yeah. So. Possibly the worst song ever written. I thought this is what you said the future music was going to sound like. I was right. And this was, I guess, over 40 years ago. Paul McCartney. Oh, my God. This came out in 1980, temporary secretary. Oh, that's what this is. What was? How did he make this? Yeah, what was he thinking? Look, Paul McCartney is an enormous talent, but he has written some crap songs. Oh, my God. That song Freedom that he wrote? I mean, just. They played this. I was unaware of it. It's like a miniature horse was playing the keyboard. And I took. Yeah, that's what the horses play. Because the cue the way he just bangs his snout. He's so fast. He's playing McCartney. Yeah, they played that at the Paul McCartney concert at Bush. Everyone went to about 10 years ago. Like, what? Was that a request? Happiness? Were people enjoying it? It was a lot of confusion. People are like, what's happening? Okay, so speaking of 1980. Last night, I just was letting the YouTube algorithm do its thing, and I watch a lot of tennis highlights. It was showing me highlights from the 1980 U.S. Open men's singles semifinal between John McImore and Jimmy Conner. Oh, man. It was really fun to watch. Yeah. With their tiny rackets? Yeah, right. But I looked down, and it took place on September 6th, 1980. And I was like, that was Dave's 16th birthday. 16th birthday. And then I was. I was thinking, like, I wonder what Dave was doing, like, as they were. I think I do. I think I know. Driving around South or Oxiana. Oh, God. My 16th birthday. Were you a driver's license right away kind of dude? Oh, everyone was. Yeah. Everyone was. I didn't know a single person that didn't get it on their 16th birthday. Why did that change in the last 20 years? Yeah. Yeah. I waited a couple months after my birthday, but that was only because I had to take driver's ed. My school didn't offer driver's ed. So I took it during the summer and you had to wait like six months after getting your permit. So I was a few months after turning 16. Did they offer how to drive a wagon? Like because it's Jerseyville? No, just because the way you describe it. Like very.

Very old school. I mean, my school wasn't even big enough to offer driver's ed. They had to outsource it to the public schools. Speaking of 16-year-olds, I had a sweet moment last night. I was getting gas and not a QT, like it up. I don't even know what the hell it was, Philip 66 or something. And it was just me and this young girl, I'm guessing she was 16, pulled up. And she says, excuse me, sir. And I said, yeah. And she goes, I have no idea how to make this work. And it was just, you know, the classic pump. And she's like, which one of these, you know, like unleaded, mid, whatever do I want? And so I got to walk her through it. And it was sweet. That's nice. It's nice that she was comfortable enough to ask. Yeah. Instead of just doing it wrong. It made me feel good. Then she was like, I'm not asking that guy. Have you ever seen the videos of the pranks that teenage girls play on their dads with that? I was just about to bring that rules. Yeah, they put the, they say that they put the diesel gas into the regular car, which will ruin your engine. Yeah, they'll be like, dad went to the green pump. Yeah, she's like, isn't that the better one? Yeah, it was more money, so I thought that was the best way. And the dad's like, what's you do? That's pretty funny. Yeah. Yeah, it made me judge, though, like, oh, I shouldn't even say this. Like, why didn't your dad teach you to do that, you know? Oh, by the way, for years before the kids turned 16, oh, my God. When we would visit grandma. in South Arkansas without Maureen, which we, you know, just wait, shook out sometimes, or just me and Phoebe or just me and Nick. And I would let them drive on the old country roads, and that came up during our KU visit. Yeah. So, Marine was like, ah, yeah, I kind of always, I thought you took to it pretty quick. Yeah. That's the greatest way, man. Out there on the country roads, run off the road, no big do the job I need a temporary secretary. God, this almost cancels out the Beatles. He's almost just even. He started up at zero after this song. You would need, like, here there and everywhere and yesterday just to make a dent in this one. Like, if he brought in those three songs, you'd be like, we're going to pass. We're going to pass. Thank you, Paul, is it? Yeah. Good thing those weren't the ones in the 60s. Yeah. Good. I thought this was kind of interesting. We've talked about how... What's that? We have Jeff... Oh, my gosh. How did I forget that? I thought that was at 2 o'clock. Colonel Jeff McCausland has been a friend of the show for years now. And we've met him several times. He is as cool of a guy as he seems on the air. And he is moving on from this position. And today, as I understand it, Colonel, is your final day doing these hits with CBS. Is that correct?

Well, I'll be around for a couple more days, but today I'm actually in the broadcast center in New York and decide I'd come up here and contact all the affiliates I work with like KMOX. for one last roundup. So, I mean, I will be available tomorrow and Thursday, but that's going to be it. As CBS Radio, as you probably will know, is being a disbanded and going away. Yeah. Well, Colonel, it has been a distinct honor and pleasure to have you on the show. I'm sure we'll talk in the future, but just before we start talking about anything real, like thank you so much for your contribution to the DGS and GameWX. Well, it's been, again, a great pleasure working with all these feelings. Game OX is kind of my home station. I don't know if you realize that. But I was born and raised just north of St. Louis in Illinois. I still have family living in the St. Louis area. I hope they're listening after all those nice things you said about me a minute ago. They're like, oh, this guy. He doesn't know Jeff. He doesn't know Jeff. That's great. So let's jump into, and, Colonel, what I'm going to do here is I'm going to give you my opinion and see how close I come. I'm pretty on the record that I'm not a fan of Donald Trump. I really, really try to be as objective as I can, to be as fair as I can. And even if this were my favorite president of all time, I feel like the president is kind of being played by Iran. I feel like they're playing two different games. The president seems to think it's blow up a bunch of stuff and they'll capitulate. And to me, Iran is playing a 47-year long game of, well, you know, we're not going to beat me one in a conventional war, so we just have to survive. And now, from the first time, they've locked up the straight. And I just don't see this ending well for the president. I hope I'm wrong. Well, I fear you might well be right. I mean, begin with, let's pick your conflict, I think, started because the president made some assumptions, frankly, I think urged on by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel. that a strike on Iran would quickly cause the government to collapse. and that therefore we would solve this problem, nuclear weapons once and for all, bring on a new government, much more amenable to the United States. Well, obviously, that hasn't worked. And though the administration has said, well, we have a new regime, I would say we haven't got a new regime. There's still the Islamic Revolution. We've got a new leadership, and the new leadership is perhaps more conservative and more hardcore than the Grand Diatollah was who was killed to begin with. I think you're also right in terms of where we're at now. I think then... Vice President JD Vance and others went to Pakistan to negotiate with the Iranians a few weeks ago. I think they expected the Iranians to surrender. This was going to be capitulation. The Iranians showed up to negotiate, and they brought a team about 70, including experts.

So where we are right now is, I think the Trump administration thinks, well, we're looking for the battleship Missouri. We're looking for the Missouri where the Japanese are going to come on board and they're going to surrender in this particular conflict. But they're not going to surrender, I think, wholesale. This is a leadership that obviously went through the Iran-Walk War, hundreds of thousands of people get killed in that process. Back in January before this war began, they killed 7 to 42,000 of their own people putting down social unrest. I guarantee you one thing. The current leadership in Iran is not worried about midterm elections. And as a consequence, they think their willpower to hold out is longer than Mr. Trump's. And that is the question that's we're asking at this particular moment. Do you want to negotiate with them and get them to comply with an agreement? Or if you don't, then you're going to try to take them down. If you're going to take them down, that's going to be a tall order, a land invasion. And if you like the war in Iraq, you're going to really like a land war in Iran. Yeah, my guess, Colonel, is that in the next two to four weeks, the president just goes, it's over, we're leaving. Europe can worry about the strait, and we have eyes on the enriched uranium. No one's going to go near that. Everything's cool. We sunk their Navy. I think that's what, I feel like that's what's going to happen. Could be. He has only got really three options. Option number, in no particular order, option number one, would be to intensify the blockade, try to put on more additional economic pressure, feeling that over time the Iranians will cave. I think that they've got at least a couple of months that they can hold out in terms of being able to store oil without shooting down their fields, which could do them serious damage. Number two option would be to intensify the military option, going for larger-scale bombing campaigns. perhaps some kind of a land force to go in either and take down the leadership in total or occupy key pieces of terrain like the Straits of Hormuz or Karg Island, thinking that might provide leverage. And then option number three is exactly what she just said, declare victory. And he's declared victory at least three or four times. And the Secretary of Defense has said, well, we've accomplished all our military objectives, really? And declare victory and go home. saying that, again, we only get a small portion of our oil out of that region and leaving it up not only to the Europeans, but the Asians. to take care of what's left in the mess. Right now, of course, he's on his way to China as we speak for very important meetings with Xi Jinping, and the Chinese get an enormous amount of their oil and natural gas from the Straits of Hormuz, not only from Iran, but also from the other Gulf states. They have also got very close economic ties with a number of the countries in that region, so this could definitely potentially hurt the Chinese.

and therefore they may have an interest in trying to apply pressure to bring it to a close. Colonel, it may just be brilliant Chinese hype and propaganda, but it just feels like China is occupying a higher seat at the table than anything I've seen in my lifetime. They're more accepted globally. They're really working it. They're really trying to be there when the United States falls in its face. Do you agree with that? I think to some degree that's true, and I've seen polls that suggest people around the world seem more willing now to accept China as a world leader than the United States. This is based on Mr. Trump's actions against a lot of our allies. Don't forget the threat to actually attack and seize Greenland. This comes from the efforts in Venezuela. This comes from the war in Iran. This comes from the tariffs. And so many of our allies, not only in Europe, but in Asia, are certainly looking at that particular way. And if we are going to move away from our support of our allies, that creates a vacuum for the Chinese to move in on. For example, consider a worry right now that Mr. Trump might say something about we're no longer going to insist on Taiwanese independence. Well, if he was to do that, that would royal across Asia. If you're Korean, Japanese, or otherwise, you would say we have to accommodate the Chinese because he no longer can depend on the Americans. Man, Colonel, a question for you broader, because what you mentioned about Iran being more difficult than Iraq is certainly driving home a question to me anyway about the balance between the military expertise and the political expertise on the civilian side. Can you talk a bit about that push and pull? Because we hear from the political side and the civilian side. We don't often get to hear unless it's, you know, by permission. the military side of planning out these types of things. And I'm sure that intelligence knows these difficulties more than the politics side. How does that push and pull work? The politics versus the practical. Well, certainly the president, I think, was listening to Mr. Benjamin Netanyahu. I think one of the cheerleaders also for this conflict was the Secretary of Defense, Mr. Pete Hegseth, who I would dare say is, without a doubt, the most unqualified person ever to occupy the chair of Secretary of Defense in the history of this nation. But besides that, currently the chairman of joint chief staff, General Kane, I think, is a very experienced military leader. But I've been told that Kane interprets his role differently, perhaps, than others that have been the chairman. He sees his role as laying out options to the president, explaining what the pluses and minuses and risks of each, but trying very hard to not show he actually is promoting one over the other and leaving those decisions to the political leadership, unlike other chairman I've known of, who are much more willing to try to say, this is the best option, sir, for trying to make sure that they didn't allow the president to make a choice that they thought was inappropriate. He seems to want to be an honest broker, and I've heard that...

In some meetings, he's been criticized for being on both sides of an issue because he tries to honestly lay those particular issues out. I think that may lead us to where we are right now. But the problem we've got is, of course, that, you know, while the Pentagon, Mr. Pete Hegseth wants to talk about the number of targets we've struck, a number of Navy ships we have sunk. Who cares about the Iranian Navy, really? A target list is not a strategy. And unfortunately, I think we went in this conflict with a strategy that it was going to be short, be over quickly, and now we're at the point of trying to answer the question that's too infrequently asked in Washington, which is, and then what? Colonel, I'm sure you knew some of these men and women, but I never, like when the president took over in his second term, I didn't begrudge him putting his own people in. It's like when a new program director comes in, sometimes they fire the morning show and they bring in their own person. But I know we had to have lost a great deal of military talent as they went through and purged the ranks. Can you just address that? Yeah, I mean, Mr. Pete Hegseth has fired dozens and dozens of senior military officers, and I think that has a chastening effect on other senior officers and providing advice. This is an administration, at least from the Pete Hegseth's perspective, that's not interested in input. He's just interested in execution. Unfortunately, as well, I think a number of the officers that were forced into retirement seem to be coincidentally either minorities, African American, and or women. And that sends a chilling effect as well to the force. And I think right now if you're a young woman or a minority, you might say to yourself, you know, the chances for me being promoted to this organization are pretty limited. And so you have the unintended effect of a lot of people then retiring before they absolutely have to because they're getting a message from above that their service is not considered to be valuable. Colonel, thank you again for all the years you've been on the show. And when you come back to St. Louis, I hope you'll reach out because we'd love to take you into a ballgame. Promise. We'll go see the Cubs play the Cardinals. Awesome. Thank you, Colonel. Take care. Be a belly dancer. I don't need a true romancer.

Come back, DGS and CamoX. Happy Tuesday. Thanks to Andrew, we had some delicious Casey's pizza today. Oh, it's so good. Casey's the most underrated gas station food of all time. Mm-hmm. Right? Mm-hmm. Delicious. And you didn't hear it from me. I believe they're running a bit of a sale right now. They are. Consider, consider asking around. What type of sale they're running? Well, this is not an advertisement, so, you know, I'm not trying to, you know, feel like everybody go. But it's like 40% off all pizzas right now. Really? Yeah. Which is what led me down this path this morning. Did you have a piece? I did. What you think? It's not bad. Yeah, it's not bad. Definitely edible. Like, you know, some place you get pizza. Wow. No, no. I knew he was going to upset me because I gave him a piece and the eye. He was like, I might take a piece. I was like, yeah, part of why I brought it because he said he never had it before. This is the problem is what I said he had no follow up after he ate it. And I was like, what am I supposed to do? Dance on my chair? It would be nice if you shake my ass. It would be nice if you shook your ass a little. I don't think that's so much to ask for. I'll bring in pizza every day for shake his ass. If you want to throw a little ass around, I wouldn't mind a bit. Actually. This ginger never pay for another lunch in life. Free food for me. That was good. What I was going to say was most gas station pizza is not edible. Casey's is good. Well, we can do a little better than edible, don't you think? I just said it was good. It's no Mexican chili, but... Just said it was good.

What do you think there, Rach? Was that a Wheeler thing? Like, did he under-compliment? No, no, no, no. I think Andrew was just thinking maybe he didn't like it. No, that's good. You know. You guys, just grading pizza pizza, not just gas station pizza, what would you give it? Thousand. Yeah, I really like it. It's fine. We're from the east side. Yeah. I would give it like a seven. Yeah. Yeah, I give it like a seven and a half, like a B or a B plus. Casey is where you go after proms, right? Okay. Okay. Right. It's where you stop every morning and he eat it in the parking lot and then he hide it so that no one could see that she did it. No, I don't think wheels did anything wrong. I think. it's a special pizza to Andrew so he was hoping that wheels would be like oh my goodness I loved that but he didn't do anything wrong by not saying that no and also if you don't like it there's also nothing wrong with that it was good this is an interesting concept because Wheeler just came off as sort of a D by mildly complimenting by strictly no by strictly being accurate he accurately reported his opinion yeah But we're such people players who are like, say more, say more. Next time I'll dance on the chair. And Kevin will twerk. I don't think I can do that. You wouldn't be unwelcome. By the way, who could and couldn't skip? I was out there. Oh, I can skip. We could all skip when we tried to skip, yes. I tried it, too. Did you skip? Yeah, it came right back. Yeah. Yeah. So. I, uh, I was talking to big game and once I started rearing up, I did okay, but I was like, fine. I was like, ooh. When I'm really on the spot here, I'm not sure. Maybe I don't have it anymore. I wanted to make a video like, who can and can't skip? And then we were all perfectly. I didn't even post it. I was like, there's nothing funny about this. It's just three adults skipping. It's like we're all back in sixth grade. This is easy. Yeah. You know, it was kind of on my nerves. late night guys. Oh, I'm so glad you said this. Like, did you see them all get together on Stephen Colbert? Yes. And it's like, look, I grew up on late night. I graduated from Carson to Letterman and it was a huge thing for me. But it's no longer a big thing. It's no longer a huge thing. Well, there's also like nine of them now. Yeah. It used to be two. That too. I think you're being persecuted. I don't think what the president is doing is right. I don't think what the FCC is doing is right. You have my support. I will give you my protection, but you're really annoying me with this holier than now. I think if Stephen Colbert's ratings were better, this wouldn't be happening. Because, I mean, Jimmy Kimmel is way in way worse favor with the president.