Full Show 6-30-26

M-K-M-O-X. Happy Tuesday to everybody. Happy Tuesday. No meeting scheduled today, so we've got to do the whole thing. Dang it. Maybe I can schedule one. Dave's like... Do I have that kind of cloud to call a meeting? Like, oh, you mean start one? Yeah. Oh, yeah, good question. What would the meeting be about? Nothing. I just tell some jokes. Okay. Hey, I just wanted to workshop some stuff. Sounds good. I had this thought last night while I was high, and I just wanted to run it by all the bosses, so. Should we start with the controversy from lunch? Oh, you mean our controversy? Yes. I made everyone shut up. You could have kept talking once I left. No, no. Okay. But wheels, I'll let you set the stage. Well, I forget where it started it. Like, I remember where it became, because I think I brought up, do you remember the Daffy Duck or the, which I said, who was it? Was it Daffy or Bugs or somebody like that that found like a pile of gold? And he was like, he turned into like a psycho because of the gold. And then we have the generational divide show up. Yes. Because Andrew was pretty clearly like sold that it was Scrooge McDuck. And I'm like, no, no, no. Scrooge didn't exist when this happened. Scrooge McDuck wasn't even a character when this happened. I don't even know what it is you're accusing Daffy of having done. Daffy found a treasure in a cave. And he turned into a psychopath and he was trying to like push Bugs Bunny out and he was going, it's mine, mine, it's all mine. I'm rich, I'm a wealthy miser. I'm a happy miser. Yeah, yeah. I'm independently wealthy. You said he dove into the treasure. He does. He dives into the treasure like multiple times during the episode. Yeah. He just like does a big old swan dive boom and then he pops up and he's in there. He's like, it's mine. So you're accusing Disney of having stolen it. I think Disney stole everything. I think, yeah. Anything that followed Daffy and gold that looked like that was something. And Disney used a duck to do it. Like, come on. He didn't even choose a different animal. Although Scrooge, I don't think Scrooge had his own show or anything, but he may have existed when Daffy did. He did. He was created in 1947. There you go. Yeah, but he wasn't a TV show. He was on Duck Tales. Woo. Woo. I cannot forget that stupid jingle from my kid watching it. I never watched that. Yeah, my kid did. Scrooge McDuck created in 1947. The loony tune that Kevin is referring to is called Alibaba Bunny, which came out in 1957. Uh-oh. Yes. First of all, awesome. Second of all, that seems a little problematic. Yeah, I didn't really want to say it. What else happens in Alibaba Bunny? Everything was problematic in the old cartoons. Everything. Everything. Yeah. I mean, they were doing like... You have to understand. Like, being my age, at least...

In St. Louis, everyone, my age listening, we'll remember this. Morning television was, you know, like, Bud's Bunny was very racist and problematic, you know, by today's standard. Like, I mean, Pepe LePue is a stalker. But every now and then, they'd get worse. And they would throw like a 1930 black and white cartoon. They're like, deepest, darkest Africa. And you're like, I'm not comfortable with this. No, if you see them now, you're like, how did human beings make this? I've got it, by the way. I'm rich. I'm a happy riser. There you go. There you go. So you're both right. He sounds so cute. Yeah. He was very excited. And he was little. He was shrunk down for some reason. Yes, he got shrunked. Yes, because the genie shrunk him down, I think. Isn't that what happened to Dave? He rubbed the magic lamp and then something like that's what shrunk him down tiny. Sounds right. Sounds right. Yeah. Casey Lloyd brings up romper room. God, I was in love with Miss Lois. What's a romper room? What's a romper room? Oh, yeah. Is that what her name was? Miss Lois. Well, I think they had different ones around the country. Oh, okay. Because they definitely did the whole, like, so this lady would, would she do at the beginning or the end? End. At the end of the show would look through like a magnifying glass like she's looking through the camera and just list children's name. I see Rachel? I see Dave. I see Rachel. And then when you heard your name, you'd be like, ah! Magic mirror, please tell me today. Did all of my friends have fun at play? I see my buddies in Nova Scotia. There you are. Nova Scotia. Oh, that's the Canadian Rompereo. They didn't even name the kids' names. Just forget it. Calling out an entire country. Yeah. I only recognize one Miss Lois, and that is Peter's wife. Peter. Wheels doesn't watch Family Guy, which is the most important thing to me. Yeah, he is Family Guy. He is Family Guy coded. Without a doubt. I feel like my generation had a weirder childhood entertainment experience than you guys did just because they were just throwing crap on the wall for us. And none of it made sense and it was just crazy. And you guys had crazy cartoons like Nick's mom didn't let him watch Ed Ed Nettie and Angry Beavers and stuff like that, which I did. Sorry, Jen. I'd get my head and get the leg up somehow. Well, it's anything any of us watches nothing compared to the things kids are stumbling across online these days. Like what I don't know. I'll always see TikToks of like, I think I've sent them to you, Andrew, where it's like, my baby sister's been watching this channel and now she's grounded. And it'll just be like a song. And then the song gets like really profane, really fast. Yeah. Really? Yeah. It's all in like little kid colors and. They'll like reference drugs and reference alcohol. They like sneak it in there. It's very troubling. Don't let your little child use YouTube without supervision. Do you guys, have you heard of dopamine sites? No. So I had neither. And I saw a story on it today. And it is so the best I can explain it is by giving an example, there's one called Deliveroo.

And it allows you to have a DoorDash experience to shop through and choose all the food you want. And then you don't pay for it and it's never delivered. So there are like fake eBay's and fake Neiman Marcuses where you can have the dopamine hit supposedly if you love shopping or if you love gull for whatever it is. But you don't actually have any transactions. Does that work? I don't know. I mean, definitely they're huge. Like, does you get the same fix knowing it's fake and knowing it's not coming? Because usually the fix is like you get that rush when you're like, it's time. Here we go. I don't know. I mean, I'm a pretty good example of this with my eBay problem, which I've been very good about the last few months. But for me, when the package is delivered, I'm always a little bit disappointed. Really? Yeah. It was like more of the chase. Like, oh my gosh, look at this baseball glove from 1974. And I have to have it and, you know, bidding on it or buying it and then like, oh, it's going to come in. And then when it does, it's real cool for like five minutes. And I'm like, oh, what's next? So maybe I should get on Deliveroo. Well, I get the What's Next, but the What's Next doesn't happen until you get the thing. Yeah, getting the thing is fun. It just doesn't last very long. Yeah. which I think is what we've learned from 10,000 years of philosophy basically is like you just keep wanting more of it. But I thought that was kind of interesting. That's a thing for grown people. I mean, I guess if it works, but I don't know. It feels like with no payoff, like what point does it stop working? Yeah. If I did that, I'd be kind of upset that I wasted the time shopping and then I don't even get the stuff. Right. Although not to call you out, but you love to look at real estate. Yeah, but that's because I have, well, sure, but I mean, I have a real interest in real estate. I think it's a little different, like getting familiar with properties and comps in your area and then like, I'm going to add the whopper to my cart, but I'm never going to shit. I'm not going to eat it. Right, right. It's a little different to have like a big dream and have an idea and thing you want to work on versus a cheeseburger. And for me, it's also like. I'm not going into it like, I'm going to buy this home. I just, I'm nosy and I like to know what kind of properties are out there and what's available. It's just fun to familiarize myself. It seems harmless, though, if it gets you what you want. True. I mean, it's better than spending money you don't have. Good point. I learned about a new T-Rex last night. T-Rex? It's called Tylosaurus Rex. T-Y-L. It was bigger than the T-Rex, and it was in... ocean-going dinosaur. Yeah. And it's supposedly the most powerful meat eater of all time. Yeah, it's a big guy. Yeah. I think that's in the Jurassic world. Oh, yeah? I think. I think that's what it is. Maybe I'm wrong about which one they're depicting. But yeah. Never heard of it. It's a massive sea, like, almost like a crocodile. He looks cool. He's huge, though. Yeah. Crocow whale.

Crazy. Wouldn't it be crazy? Because we really don't know what the dinosaurs looked like on the outside for sure. What if he was like bright pink? Yeah. Could be. I mean, we don't know. No. We tend to go by what we know about. similar species. In other words, if you're bright pink predator, probably not great because you're going to stand out visually to the animals you want to eat. Yeah, but he's so big and bad. It doesn't even matter. Like me. I'm big and pink. I saw something last night. You guys may need to Google this to make sure I didn't dream it. Okay. But I swear... That's going to sound so stupid. By the way, that was the thing in the Jurassic Park I looked at. Oh, good. We are training Madagascar hissing cockroaches to scuba dive. We have made little tiny scuba suits for them for espionage purposes and rescue purposes that we can. They can breathe through this apparatus for like three hours. And then we can control their bodies by using electrical impulses. So basically a person's driving one or a thousand Madagascar hissing cockroaches through a cave trying to find a bunch of, you know, soccer kids or whatever it is. You're looking at this? It's on the New York Post. Okay. There you go. They could possibly be going to Mars. Yes. They talked about using them on Mars. Yeah. Interesting. Tiny scuba suits. What are the cockroaches going to do when they get to the soccer team in the cave? Yeah, well, they're going to do about it. Do they just leave them there? Plus, great. Now I'm stuck in the cave that's flooded and there's a bunch of cockroaches in my living space. Plus, I know they're cockroaches. This is just great. But it doesn't seem right. To just, like, mechanically control another being? It doesn't seem right, does it? It's terrible. I don't know. They don't really respect our rights. Bugs are always getting in things. Well, I guess we better shoot them into space. I think we're kind of living on their planet. Well, then they should do something about it. Oh, you're just, you're asking for it. I'm just kidding. You are asking for it. If they could do something about it, we'd be in trouble. You're gonna find a tiny scuba suit in your house. Damn it, they're here. Do you see the Mexican Batman? What? No. There's a vigilante in Mexico that is targeting bicycle thieves and he is duct taping them to light poles and then writing the Mexican word for a thief or robber on their faces and leaving them for the cops. That's funny. I mean, it's obviously risky, but it's funny.

I guess bike thieves are probably not the most dangerous criminals to target. He's not going after the cartel. Yeah, it looks like young teenage boys taped up to these light poles here. Even weirder. Yeah, I mean, like, okay, I guess if you're going to pick a type of thief to vigilante against, it would probably be safest to pick bike thieves over a lot of the others. Yeah, there you go. Batman of Lagos de Moreno. And my bike stolen once by a neighbor. We knew exactly who it was. A neighbor seems like the worst person to steal your bike. Dude, every neighbor I had in South Rocksana was some kind of thief. I mean, it's just like, it's all about what kind of criminal you were. Did they ride the bike in front of you? No, they left it behind the shed all stripped off. And that's when I got my Pee-Wee-Herman bike. Yeah. Yeah. That's when my dad took me out to Sears and I picked the very first bike I saw, which was like the kind of bike you would ride in the 1930s. The banana seat? No. Dude, it was Peeby Herman's bike because it was green. It had fenders. It had big fat white wall tires. It was a dork bike. It didn't have the banana seat? Or did it happen as a regular seat? No. It's the dorkiest bike you can imagine. It was an old man bike in 1974, but I had no patience. And even my dad was like, you want this bike? I'm like, I want that bike. And I got home, I'm like, what have I done? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I'll never move back in Anger. We'll back to you, G.S. No, I'll never find me. bit about this representative keen who had been completely gone from congress for four months not a sign not a word Couldn't get a hold of his staff, didn't do anything, didn't vote, nothing, absolutely nothing, became this big mystery. And he came back and he spoke and he said that basically he had depression and he had to be hospitalized for like three months. And it rubbed me the wrong way. And so I want to be very clear. This is like not everyone can talk about every topic. This is one I feel like I have earned over 61 years. I've never been diagnosed with clinical depression. But I have been diagnosed with general anxiety disorder and C PTSD and ADHD. So I think I feel like I can talk about this. And I'm sorry, sir, that you had this problem. And I'm happy that you got help. A lot of people don't get help and they spiral or they end up taking their own lives like my brother did. So I'm glad. I'm glad. However, you have a job. And to me, it's no different than if you work at Taco Bell. And I doubt you could miss four months of work.

being a normal person and not tell your employer, who in this case is us, what's going on. what the deal is. And I didn't like his attitude. I just thought it was very entitled and like he had a get out of jail free card. And I don't see it that way. Like, okay, you had depression, have depression. A lot of people do. And it sounds like you had it pretty bad and it kind of snuck up on you and you got treatment and that's wonderful. But don't expect us to be like, oh, that's great. I see now why you didn't communicate with anyone for four months. I see now why you totally ignored your job, your constituents, your fellow congresspeople. Two in two doesn't have to four for me on this one. And so I think you can say both things. Good for you. You got help. I wish you well in the future. But that wasn't okay. And it's not okay to do that. And just because you're in Congress doesn't give you special golden rules that you get to basically ignore and not do your job for a fourth of a year, third of a year, and then just act like it's fine. Thoughts? Pretty much the same as yours. You know, I mean, sympathy for the human being because, look, depression, all of these things, depression, anxiety, they're real and they suck. They're terrible. They do damage. But the way that you phrase this is dead on. This is what privilege looks like. You're supposed to just be an elected official working for your constituents, but you have the privilege. And, oh, by the way, the health care coverage. that affords you the ability to take four months and just disappear. But I also want to know why was he trading stocks while he was gone during all that time? Yeah. Because he had to affix his own digital signature to a lot of the stock trades that he made. So you can make stock trades, unless someone's doing that for you, which... signing your name for you seems like a pretty bad deal when it comes to financial things um again unless there's something we don't know about like he gave power of attorney to a family member or whatever an attorney or whatever but like that's a bad look too your personal signature going on stock trades while you've taken four months off your job and not and not explained it that's the part like i don't mind the four months if you're going to explain it if you're going to tell everybody hey listen i'm dealing with this It's real. It's awful. I'm going through it. That's why I'm out. But four months of deflection and hiding and not telling people. And again, I get it. I understand. If you want your privacy, get out of the private sector or the public sector. You want privacy. Go into the private world. Go into private business. If you're going to be a member of Congress, your problems are not private. Agreed.

Brian says, are you all doing a special show for the fourth? I don't think we have anything like special programming for the DGS. Friday, we're only on for an hour. The fourth is, of course, Saturday. But Hancock and Kelly have a great series right now, celebrating the 250th, doing all sorts of... Great guests, great topics. Yes, yes. So definitely check that out. And I want... Are we running that on the 4th? We are. It looks... I'm looking at the weekly schedule here. 9 a.m. here on KMOX, you can hear Hancock and Kelly. Yeah, I've heard a couple and they're really good. They're so good. And obviously, if they're not already, they will be podcasted at some point. For sure. Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. That was Sunday. The fourth. Oh, I was wrong. Well, we probably have a baseball game. We have a baseball game at 615. Yeah. But it looks like kind of regular KMOX programming on the 4th of July, other than that. Robert Walsh, who's been with us for a long time on the stream, who's talked about his depression, says, I've alluded to it before this show and you awesome people have been a huge help getting out of that deep dark hole. Thank you. Honestly, thank you. You're very welcome. Yeah. By the way, glad you're out of the hole. Yeah. It's our privilege to be able to, I mean, like that nothing feels better than that, just knowing that we can be a friendly program to people and help people feel better. 100%. Pretty amazing. Do, do. All right. Let's talk about the transgender thing. Supreme Court today. Now, look, I'm no Brad Young. Okay. I've not read the opinion. I'm not going to give you a breakdown of what the, you know, majority in the dissent said. But my understanding is that the Supreme Court sided with the Trump administration and said that states can ban... transgender athletes from competing in women's sports. Is that about the long and short of it? Basically, it's given the rights to the states to make those rules for their own athletic, what do you call it, associations. So, Wheels, is that, I mean, I know that would include, like, public schools, but when they say women, what kind of state associate, would that be college sports then? So I think this is all related to high school sports. Okay. So every state has its own high school athletic association. I think that's what they're talking about because the college sports, those are run by the NCAA. And mostly it's about the conferences agreeing to be a part of the NCAA and the conferences have their own rules too. So as you go up, the rules are not as broadly defined because in college, you're always competing against people from other states. So those rules have to be above the state level. And I don't mean above in terms of priority, just to mean above that to cover. an entire conference and entire division. And what are the NCAA rules about that? I don't think they have very clear guidelines on it, but at the moment, I think, I think it's biological birth for the NCAA. It's looking like that. Yeah. Although, actually, that's not entirely true because, I mean, we know the case of Leah Thomas, who was swimming, you know, as it was a male swimmer and then transitioned and then swam with women at the division one level. Yeah. So I think.

It might be... Okay, so that was between 2017 to 2019. I think it's changed since then. Yeah, it looks like it was 2021 that they put these new restrictions on trans athletes. But those are also, again, they're not... This ruling, my understanding, was about the high school sports. And high school athletic associations having the ability to make their rules. This is... So you guys listen to the show. You have a pretty good beat on me. I'm pretty socially liberal. I have lots of gay, trans friends. We had Alex on yesterday, the artist who is trans, who I didn't know is trans. And I'm one million percent supportive in every way, except this one. Maybe because I was an athlete, maybe just, I don't know what it is, but I'm okay with this. You know, I'm okay with biologic. born males not competing with girls in high school. Yeah. Where are you guys? Yeah, I think, so at the moment, I want to go by what is provable by science, okay? And we have to put the onus for evidence on people making a claim, okay? We have separate men's and women's sports for a reason. It's because when you look at world records, when you look at state records, when you look at all of these things, they're not the same. Women can't run as fast as men. That's not science. That's science. Like, look at the Olympics. All you have to do is look at that. There are high school boys that run the Olympic times of women, of the women racers. That's not a knock. It's just different. And I think the onus of the burden of proof, I should say, is on the people that are saying. that there's no unfair advantage for a person who transitioned from male to female to compete against female sport. And not for that purpose, but if they want to compete in sports. I think the burden of proof is on them to show that it isn't an unfair advantage. Because the thing about sports that we have these rules for, these rules are all about competitive fairness. That's what they're for. It's why we have separate men's and women's leagues and sports. So if you can show scientifically that there's no advantage, I'm open to listening to that. Same. That's the burden of proof. But we also shouldn't be making this unfair for people who don't have a choice in the matter, which is all the young women that are athletes. They're women. They are biologically who they are and what they are, and they can train to the peak of that. But if someone who is trans has denser muscle structure, wider shoulders, longer legs and arms, more height as an example, because men are typically taller. And men have higher muscle density. It's why they're stronger. You have to be able to prove that there's no advantage. And if you do, again, let's have that conversation. Let's talk about that. But that's not what we have at the moment. Yeah. Andrew, I think you disagree. Am I right? Mostly, I think, how I feel about it is that this is a hysterical non-issue. This is something that affects, what, like eight sports teams in eight high schools across the country? That's the truth, yeah. We have spent so many, I mean, we've spent so much time just on this show speaking about this issue, and we don't even really talk about it.

But it's so it just keeps coming up because it keeps being forced back upon us. And now the Supreme Court's involved. And I know of some other, you know, more conservative-leaning shows that talk about this literally like half their show every single day. And it's just such like an incredible like. It is a it is a ludicrously outsized issue. Don't disagree. For what it actually is. And that's where I think the actual transphobia gets involved. Yes. It's the fact that we have to talk about this every single day, 365 days a year, when it is something that really doesn't actually affect anyone. No, two things are true here. It's used as a political weapon. to signal that I'm like you, right? I see the world the way that you do. And it's nowhere near as big a problem as the amount of attention it receives. Andrew's 100% right. That said, I do think that the high school state organizations do have to have rules about this because their job is to make sure that fairness is enforced. That it's a level playing field. Because that's what sports are. It's about a level playing field. And even if it's a small number of cases, you still have to have protections in place so that young women don't get pushed out of competition or don't end up not getting a scholarship or don't end up being on a team, whatever, even if it's at that level, because someone else has an advantage based on how they were born. So it's, it's, I completely agree with Andrew. This is way overblown. It is way used as a tool to bludgeon people for political purposes. Because as he points out, there aren't that many cases of it. Yeah. That said, I do think it's, it's okay for these organizations to be able to make their own rules based on what they think is the prevalence of the issue in the, in the state that they govern. The state that they, I shouldn't say govern, but, you know, the state that they're, that they're the athletic. Power. Yeah. I agree. I agree. And I wish the conversation was like this instead of going crazy. I don't think that a biologically born male who transitions to being female should compete on the girls volleyball team at Roxana High. But I agree with Andrew that 99% of it has been used to just beat down trans people. If you look at the names we put on it, it's like keeping men out of women's sports. Well, that's not even what... is going on like that's about the harshest cruelest way you could phrase that and yet that's the the terms we use and like introducing these bills like we got to keep men out of women's sports well no what you're trying to do is you're trying to say hey in this case trans women cannot compete in girls sports and and states have the ability to make that decision for themselves right that's the kind way of saying it

But that's not what people say. Right. Yeah, we don't need the flame throwers on this. We don't need the blow torches. We don't need the bomb throwing. We can have a rational conversation about this and be respectful to people. Yeah. Yeah, and that's largely why I say if you don't think that this is a transphobia issue, you're silly. It's used that way. Yeah. Yeah. But if it's done properly, it shouldn't be. Yeah, right, right, right. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't disagree that they're, that they're, they're, these states and these high school organizations and these school boards are welcome to, uh, come up with these rules on their own. But that's not how it's being done. Right. And that's what the Supreme Court ruled, is that the states can make their own rules in this case. Yeah. As opposed to there being a federal ban on, or some kind of ban on, you know, limiting the state's ability or state association's ability to govern this type of thing. So it was a close win on birthright citizenship. 5'4. What's unclear about the Constitution? I mean. And, and, and, Rachel. I wouldn't give credit where credit is due. Raid said this this morning in the office, and it just, you know, really resounded with me because now, you know, Mike Johnson is so sad because this happened. And Eric Schmidt's like, this shall not stand and he's introducing legislation that will get rid of birthright citizenship. And, I mean, I was on 97-1 for 20 years. I don't remember anyone bringing that up. I don't remember it being a big Republican talking point. I remember the, I hate saying this phrase, but I remember the phrase anchor babies being a thing. Yep. That has, I guess, morphed into the birth. Like. the difference between like, we don't want people just crossing the border and having a baby and anchoring themselves to this country. And I seem to remember the discourse being about like, oh, because then they have a right to stay because their child is a citizen type of thing. Now we're just completely trying to prevent those innocent children from being a citizen of the place they were born in. That feels wild. It's the 14th Amendment. I mean, this was ratified, what, 150 years ago? Something like that. There is a path to change this if you don't like it. And that is another constitutional amendment. If you don't like that the 14th amendment says all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States and the state wherein they reside. If you don't like that, there is a mechanism to change it, which is another amendment to the Constitution. So if you can't get that done. then shut up because that language is very clear. It's not ambiguous. And it's not conditional. It's very clear what it says. Yeah. Welcome back, DGS. I really wish I had Andrew here for this one because it's a food-related thing. Last night I had a hankering for bowl cereal. I'm a cereal guy.

And I got myself some honey bunches of oats. And I went to open it. Now, let me ask, how do you guys open the inside of the cereal box? Not the cardboard part. Right, the plastic bag. The bag. You just pull it to separate it. You pulled apart. So you grab the two sides and you pull it apart. Yeah. I actually, I try to open like one side of the bag. Okay. Like just the left side or just the right side. So then it pours out like that. Okay. I try not to open it in the center. So I do it like Wheeler. Like. A caveman. And last night, this thing wasn't budging. And I'm pulling on it for a while. This is down to bed. And it's going to sound worse. And I knew at any point it was going to explode. I apologize for this. And I didn't complain it like to be dirty. And then it did and was all over the kitchen. And that made me, as I was cleaning it up, I had time to think, am I doing this wrong? Have I done this wrong for 61 years? But at least you do it the same way. Yeah. But I don't, do you do it in the middle? Yes. I do it on an end. Yeah, that's what I was trying to say. Yeah. Instead of doing it right in the center, I pick one end of it. How have I never figured that out? I don't know. You get more of a controlled pour when you open on the end. That's correct. And then you pour it like a milk carton? Right. So the other half stays closed. 61 years. I've been opening my cereal the wrong way. Pulling on the middle. It's a filthy segment. It was for you. Dave, you're like the before in an infomercial. Are you struggling to open your bags of cereal? Dave just like rips the cereal box in half and cereal goes flying everywhere. Do you do it their way? There has to be a better way. Well, you just open the corner of the bag? Yeah. Does anyone out there do it from the middle? I don't think so. I mean, I'm sure I'm sure maybe the majority do that. Well, you know what, though? Sometimes I will open. Sometimes I'll open just the middle, but sometimes I will open the entire bag. Sometimes you have to do that because the side didn't work out, right? Yeah, and then you just shake it from the side, though, because you don't want to. I love it. Dave says, my wife is super neat and tidy with everything, except food packaging. Everything she opens looks like a wild animal tore into it. My kind of girl, Dave. My kind of girl. Believe it or not, when Maria and I first got together, oh, this is embarrassing. Oh, God, this is terrible. I would just rip the bread in the middle of it. Yes. Like the bag of bread? Yes. Why would you do that? It's already open. You don't even have to open it. Because it was so easy and I didn't care. I mean, you don't even use the twist tie. You just turn it and roll it underneath. What? The bag, into the bag, right? Oh, the twist tie. Don't get me starting twist ties. But you don't even do that, right? You're just like me. You twist it and then you put it underneath when you set it down and it holds it closed. Yeah, now I do. Yeah. You ripped it open from the center and then you just left it sitting out to get stale? Yes, ma'am. David.

You know, it's one of those single-use breadloaves. Use them or lose them. I'm rich. I'm a happy miser. I'm independently wealthy. I'm going to get four maybe five slices out of this bag. Bring me another. I don't like the bread bag fasteners. I like the twist ties, but the ones that are hard plastic with like the slit and then you like slide the bag into that. You don't like those? Those are easier. True story. Those used to stress me as a kid. I have never in my life. up to today, resealed the bread the way you're supposed to. I only fold it under now. I've never done it. I've never done it the right way. I don't see any reason with that. Folding it under is not fine. Why? You're not getting, first of all, you're not getting a proper seal. You're letting moisture get in there. If you twist it like you would before putting on the ties and then you fold it under, it's the exact same thing. And what if, you know, what if, what if like some ants make their way into the cabinet or whatever? They can still get in. I say if they can get in that way, they'll get in with the twist tie or the little clip. I don't know. I'll show you. I know how it works. I understand the mechanics. We have a loaf of bread around here anywhere. One loaf of bread open from the middle sitting in the office. We should bring one in tomorrow and I'll do it for you on the camera. It's really satisfying. Is it? Oh, my God, yeah.

Welcome back, guys, DGS on KMOX. We have a guest in studio, my new best friend in the world, Lindsay neighbor. She's the senior director of marketing partnerships at Rawlings. And I went out to the Rawlings experience, told you guys about this 10 days ago or so. And Lindsay and her team gave me a private tour, which was way cooler than I even thought it would be. And I was expecting a lot because I'm a baseball glove nerd. I'm a Rawlings nerd especially. So is Kevin. me to create my own custom glove, which I told her I was fantasizing she would bring me today. But I understand it takes a few weeks to do, right? So welcome to the show. Yeah, thank you for having me. This is great. And thank you. When I texted you, I meant it with all my heart. No one appreciates this more than me. Like, it's just so cool. Yeah. You know, like, of all the cool things I've been able to do, this is right up there. Like, it was fun. We loved hosting you as such a baseball fan fanatic that you are, especially with gloves. People really. geek out over that category. So we're always happy to show it off. Yeah, it's funny because, you know, you guys do bats as well. I like bats, but I'm not on eBay looking at bats. Yeah. You know what I mean? There's no emotional connection so much to a piece of wood or aluminum composite material, but that glove has a special connection with its owner. And that's my favorite part of my job, just seeing people come alive when they start talking about their very first glove and their love continues. Your gloves can last. Mm-hmm. Like, you've had yours since high school. My fielding. glove I've had since I was 13 or 14. Catchers gloves have worn out and changed, but every catcher's glove I've ever had was more than two or three years. Even at Max Use in college, bats are one a year. Right. You don't have that same, like it's not, it doesn't, you get the same feel on your hand every single day for all that time. Yeah. Yeah. And I thought I liked floppy gloves. But then I realized that I just grew up playing with really cheap gloves. And I got my first Heart of the Hide last year and broke it in myself, which I loved that process. And it's not floppy, but it's broken in. And Kev, you had told me about that. Like, no, you want it kind of in between and here's why. I do. Yeah. I mean, everybody gets it their own way. Yeah. I like the back. to be basically unbroken in. I kind of want it to be, because it holds the shape that way. Yeah. Because I want to build the right shape for my glove. Because my glove is a catcher's glove. I like it to look like a frog mouth. That's just kind of the shape that I want it to be. So the back needs to hold. And then the middle, the pocket, I try to break it in so it's softer. So you can kind of manipulate the ball, hold it, you know, make sure it's not popping out. Yeah. So my thoughts on the Rawlings experience, it was bigger than I thought it would be, like more expansive. And, uh, I knew you'd have cool stuff, but it was cooler than I thought it would be. Yeah. Like the first gloves and the one that you'll know, the Cardinal who designed kind of the first. Yeah.

That was really cool. Yeah. About maxed out my corporate card buying some of the things we didn't have on different archive sites and a little bit of eBay. But, yeah, have so many artifacts that were just sitting in boxes in the office. So that was a fun process going through and having a little bit of an internal debate over what makes the timeline. And the good thing is we have so many items to choose from that we can constantly switch things in and out to keep it fresh and keep people coming back. You know what's cool and magical about Glove? and anyone out there who played will get this. An eight-year-old feels essentially the same way about their glove as Ozzy Smith at Ozzie's age now. Yeah. Right? It never goes away. It's always special. It's always personal. And I think it's because of what Kevin was saying, there's so many different choices to make it your own. Whether you like it broken in, whether you want it more firm, you know, the colors now. I think the options on our custom glove builder depict just that, just how many steps you have to walk through. But it's all fun because it's truly a reflection of your style and a connection to your hand. So I think that's why we could pay our endorsers all the money in the world. But if that product doesn't hold up, the glove most specifically is hard to get them to switch because they become reliant on it. And it's such a tool for their performance. Yeah. I've come around on the crazy gloves. Like I think it's only a couple years ago, Cab, I was talking to you. I was like, what the hell's going on are these kids? And this is stupid. A glove should look like a glove. And then the more like I watch the kids play with them and see how much joy it brings them, who cares? Right. Like, who cares? That's right. It's funny. I hope my dad's listening and won't be mad. But I used to say if my dad would hate this glove, I know it's going to be popular with younger kids. That's awesome. They want what their parents don't like. That's right. And he's such a traditionalist. And that's what's funny with Mason Wynn. He actually, you know, has a lot of flash to his style and game, but he has a somewhat traditional looking gloves. So, you know, you get the ones, the Rev.1, X, that Francisco Lindor designed. It's a different material. on the back and it has the leather palm, but so many crazy supplemented designs that we're able to do with that. But we put, instead of the embroidered patch that goes on all of our gloves, we just did the silhouette of the patch because we almost wanted people to detach the tradition that they associate with our brand into this one series. We wanted them to suspend everything they knew about Rawlings being, you know, old school or traditional and allow for this new scientific glove design to come out. had a little bit of an internal argument over that, what logo we were going to go with, but I liked coming out a new demographic with something different that would change people's minds a little bit. So who works with the pros? Do you get to do that? Sometimes, yeah, and I always have to pinch myself because as a baseball fan, and I try not to show any preference to the Cardinals players, but inevitably I'm sure I do. But my boss, Mike Thompson, he's an industry vet, been with Rawlings 40 years, and he leads our pro department. And honestly, I think, you know, our pros keep coming back because of the quality, but it's also we're not a big...

you know, crazy large company. We, we have the same people that have been there a while and they can talk to someone. And our pro rep, Stevie Cohen, he just has such a rapport with the players. And again, they've been doing it for years. So these people are their friends. And, you know, we have that hopefully friendly Midwestern vibe about us and just treat everyone like people. But it's hard not to pinch yourself when you're surrounded by like a Brooks Robinson or, you know, a Derek Jeter. It's just. It's pretty cool. Yeah. I didn't know. Well, first of all, I learned in the last segment that... Most people don't open their cereal bags in the middle like I did last night and it exploded. 61 years, I didn't know that. Like, you could do it on the corner. I also didn't realize being such a baseball fanatic as I am and a St. Louis kid that Rawlings as a St. Louis always has been. I know. And since 1887, we were downtown boarding goods store. I like to joke when I give tours that we sold wagon covers, parlor games, ice skates, even brass knuckles. Kids didn't know what that was. I was like, good. keep it that way. But yeah, we've been here our entire existence. And I think that's really what we were trying to do with the Rawlings experience is, you know, stake our claim on the ground. And we did that with a 30-foot gold glove on our rooftop. Yeah. Tell me about that. How were you in on the... I was. Yeah, there's a small group of us. And... Probably, I joke, it took a collective few years off our lives, but it's a feat of modern engineering, I swear. When they're looking that thing up there, you're like, please God. Well, it's a funny story because... We had a truck come in. They had to build a truck large enough to haul it to the front. And it was supposed to be done in the morning. And I'm an adjunct at a local university. So I was like, I hope it gets done. I have to go to class. So that day in class, hopefully my students are listening, we did a live stream where we were watching it. And I was like, I can't teach today. We have to watch this. And it was swinging. And I'm like, please, please go okay. And according to plan. And thankfully it did. What do you teach? I teach sports marketing. Oh, that makes sense. Yeah, and the Raleigh Sport Business Management Program at Maryville. And, you know, those programs didn't exist when I was back in school. And I joke, I went the journalism route at Mizzou, and I loved it. But now I write slang copy for like 12-year-olds. So not using it as much. That's crap. Yeah. Exactly. How was J-School at Mizzou? Hard. But, you know. The only thing I didn't love about it is our classes were rather large because so many people go to that program because it's so renowned. But I, you know...

one of the first of my family to go to college. So I felt the pressure to do well. And so I loved it. And I'm very proud of that degree and whether or not I use it as much as I need to. I did take a lot of business classes. And I went the advertising route. So I could say I'm using that and what I do in marketing. Yeah. I was one of the first of my family go to college. I did not feel pressure to do well. Mine said they want to help out with tuition, so that's a different kind of pressure. Yeah. My tuition, this old punctuate how old I am, was $500 a semester in undergrad at SIU. And I was on scholarship for sports, which was basically like, you know, I have that much in my pocket right now. It's like, okay, well, thanks. Times have changed. Times have changed. So let's walk through the, first let me do like a little ad for you. The custom glove thing. Get it for a kid if you want. Do you want to spend the money? Absolutely. Get it for the kid. Get it for your dad. Even if your dad doesn't play baseball anymore, right? Because like your dad, it'll mean something. You can put their name, their number, their favorite college, a flag of a country. What a great gift. Yeah. Just make sure you know what style he wants. Right. Don't get it wrong. If you're 14, don't get him a 14 year old globe. Take him. Take him with you. That's what I'm saying. Right, right. Gift card to design it. But yeah, there's there's something for everyone. And truly that process of going through the options is so fun. And, you know, my dad sits and watches games. with a different glove every night. You know, he's a mask quite the collection. But, you know, he still goes back to the classic Heart of the Hides. I can't see him in a crazy looking Rev.1X. But, yeah, it never gets old. And it's, you know, the quality and authenticity that's associated with our brand that makes it extra special. Yeah. Yeah. Do you have the bulk of the MLB, right? Yeah, well over 50%. I can promise you it's not because we're giving them the biggest paycheck. Some guys, we just give gloves to as part of their deal. And we're able to, what's a really cool fact, a lot of people don't know. The Gold Glove Award awarded to the best defensive athletes that we do not choose the winner, no matter how many complaints that come our way. The coaches and managers of each league, with the exception, they can't vote for anyone on their own team. If they're a Rawlings endorser and they win a gold glove, they get the gold patch, which is the biggest flex that you can make as a defender in Major League Baseball. So we've been out... able to get athletes that aren't signed to Rawlings that want that gold patch to come over to our brand. And that's really special because they really want to wear that. And even better is the Platinum Award, which is fan voted. So, yeah, those are great things when that means something to them. And they wear it as a literal...

and figurative badge of honor. Who's in the laboratory as we speak coming up with the next generation of gloves? Yeah, we have a really small but mighty team of glove engineers. And it's funny, one of them. Newman. We call him Newman, just like Seinfeld, but, um, and Josh, they are just super creative and they're always coming up with, uh, crazy designs. Some sticks, some don't. Um, but I, I will say we do so much research with players throughout the year, all ages, all, um, you know, abilities. And I think that harkens back to working with Bill Doak. That was really the first example of us. It was like 1919, 2019. And, um, you know. giving us feedback and us going to make it. So we haven't really changed from that model. We get a lot of our trends from Major League Baseball at spring training, what colors are hot, what materials they're looking at. And then we also borrow from the footwear and apparel industry as well. What trends are coming up there? Gloves right now. They were having a moment where all of them were neon colored and almost the uglier, the better in terms of all the designs. But now we're seeing it go back to some of the more traditional tans, camels. blacks with a pop of color with hot pink laces or a neon green web so it's just interesting to see what what works with certain audiences and what doesn't but we have something for everyone yeah rich any questions i just wanted to ask lindsay like it you know not everyone who pops in is going to walk out with a glove like dave like what is there for people who are maybe they're just down at west port they see rawlings and they're like all right i'll go in and check it out Yeah, and that's what, it's so funny when people ask me, like, what's the demographic for the experience? And I'm like, everyone, you don't even have to like baseball, I think, and there's some, a history buff would love it there. Yeah, I think there's, hey, if you want to get exercise, go in our batting cages and, you know, try out some of our bats. We have the gold glove vault, which is dedicated to those that have won 10 or more gold gloves. So that's more of the museum type experience there. We have apparel, headwear, everything. you know, that a baseball or fast-pitch athlete could possibly want, and also the fans, you know, just wearing a cool t-shirt to a Cardinals game. And the great thing is we're always adding to it because we're not necessarily retailers by trade. So still figuring things out, you know, on my to-do list is how do we make this field trip friendly or... have corporate events. So that's something we're working on now. But the sky's the limit with it. And we want people to keep coming back. And I think the best part, in line with a lot of the St. Louis attractions, it's free. You know, we... We don't charge for a tour. We don't charge for admission or to use our batting cages. We want to make that accessible for all the people that come through St. Louis and the folks that live in St. Louis as well. So you guys have hundreds of gloves in the wall that you can interact with, put them on your hand, see what they feel like. Can you buy those? Yeah. So it's funny. We, I know we were having some internal discussions when we were setting it up, but we went with like a minimal wall. We didn't put a lot of ad copy because that is the goal to get people.

people to try it on and go play catch um you know try it out um you know pound it a few times in your hand um because as as kevin stated it's all about feel we can't articulate necessarily uh the the greatest features and benefits to it but you have to try it out and just see what that feels like and that's like that intangible piece yeah i've tried on several really expensive gloves and you're like not for me no same for me right uh thank you for coming in thank you for having me thanks for the gloves thanks for the visit yeah So the next time you are in need of something cool to do or you find yourself at Westport, which is lovely just by itself. Stop by the Rawlings Experience. Say hi to Lindsay. And, yeah, really, really cool stuff. Thanks. Thank you. Welcome back, DGS 225. I love doing segments like that. It was interesting. Yeah, just a little something you don't know about, you know, very cool. And she's a great ambassador, too. She's great, didn't she? Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I thought of something last night. I hadn't thought of in a really long time, but it's a really sweet story, apropos of nothing. But when we first got Augie, we sent him to a trainer who was doing lives with me, like every day, like Monday through Friday. And he went for like six months. And the guy that drove the van listened to the DGS. And in the evening, when he would be driving Augie home, Augie would recognize my voice and, like, cry and whimper. Like, that's dad. Yep. Isn't that cool? I know that guy. That's what he was saying. He's like, I know him. Yeah. Dogs are so awesome. Dude, it's crazy the things that they can figure out. Yeah. Some of them don't figure out anything, right? Like, no, I'm serious. Like, some of them, they, like, audio and video things, they just, doesn't register to them. Others, they see and hear everything, and they can pick up the details. I'm thankful to have them for 12 or 15 years, but can you imagine if we had them, like, 30 or 40? Oh, my God. You know? I mean, it would be great. Just, it would be great. Unfortunately, it's not that way. Although losing them would be that much harder. Well, it would be, but I mean, it's bad now, as it is. And look, I've said many times, like, no one loves dogs more than me. But the reason we love them so much is because they can't speak. I wish they could, dude. It would be great. Right, Andrew? If they were talking to, he'd be like, oh, you're kind of annoying. I don't wish my cat can talk. Oh, I do. I wish all animals could talk. They'd be the best. I mean, she does talk. She meh-ha-ha-ha. Rachel, do you do a reels today? Yeah, we did a little clip of Andrew drinking his green juice yesterday. All of our reels are just all of us jumping on another person for doing something slightly. Yeah, Rach, pointed out, most of the show is just us busting on one another. That's what friends are for. We all get our turn. Andrew gets extra turns. They made a song about that back in the day. That's what friends are for.

That was pretty funny, though. It was. It was so funny that we noticed it, like, at the same time. He was taking the world's, like, slow. It was just like... Yeah, it was bizarre. It was just out of the use. But it's also right in our face on the stream, too. Like, you're looking at the camera and you see it, like, right there. I knew exactly what you meant when you said it, too. I was like, oh, yeah, I remember that. He's like, it's a good vintage. It was me trying to figure out, like, should I still drink? Yeah, I'm gonna drink. That's funny. You know, I'm down. That guy's DGS and KMWX. Time to talk to our pal Ricky Horton. Hey, Rick. Hey, Dave. How are you? What's going on? Great, buddy. So I'm going to start the segment today with a couple of Dave questions, but they're about the Cardinals broadcast. So when I listen to you guys and John will say, Ricky has the seventh when we come back, like, what does that mean? Like, do you really kind of go like, okay, I'm going to take the third and do the play by play. I'm going to take the seventh, do the play by play, and kind of switch off? Yes, that we do. And we've been doing that. That's kind of the way it's always been, I think. I'm sure that that's the way it was with Mike Shannon and John also. And even back to Jack and Mike and really anybody that's done it, there's a prescribed innings that you do. So my innings for play-by-player, the third and the fourth and the seventh, and John has the rest. And then once we get the extra innings, we alternate. And, you know, alternating in extra innings used to be a big deal because sometimes it'd be 13, 14, 15 inning games. But typically they get decided in an inning or two. But yes, that is prescribed. And people would be shocked listening to the show to know how much work goes into this silliness. And I'm curious, like, what is your prep like? to do a broadcast. Yeah, so it's probably, I'm actually sitting here doing it right now, so it's a very appropriate pertinent question you're asking. So I just have their media guide, our media guide, and it's, what is it, it's 3.30 Eastern time right now, so the game's not, not for another three and a half hours, but I've already met with Ollie and. I will be going through a couple of hours worth of getting my lineup card ready. John does the same thing. We'll talk to the other team's broadcaster. So there's two or three hours worth of really kind of diving into it. But it's not just that. We've got scorebooks and information in front of us that can take us back to other series and other games and what happened. And there's some review of that as well. We'll get stat packs. We'll get lineups. We'll get notes. We get all kinds of info. And you just try to cull it down the best you can and get ready for a broadcast. You know you're my boy. I love you like a brother. And you guys are a great team. I just want to say something about Rooney. He has to be low-key, one of the best who's ever done it. Oh, there's no doubt about it. And you're not saying it because I'm sitting right next to him right now. And so I'm going to have to say it so he can hear it. But here's what John does. And here's what John's just awesome at doing. And known John a long time. And we talk about that all the time. He paints the picture. So people say this to me all the time. They'll say, you know, when I'm listening to the radio broadcast, and they're talking about John, they're not saying that about me. But when I'm listening to the radio broadcast, I feel like I see things.

Because of the words that are being used, I understand kind of where you are in space and time and all that. And so they love the way he paints the picture. And it is pretty spectacular. There's a lot of adjectives in that. There's a lot of kind of thought to describing what you see. And, you know, I think some people would think that that would be easy, but it's not. I mean, you see it, so you assume everybody else sees it. But, you know, that doesn't work on radio, obviously. So John's just an expert at that. Well, tell him I said that because I'm desperately needy for people to like me. I will. I'll pass it along, and I'm sure John will give the thumbs up to liking you back, Dave. So one of you two, maybe both of you, but I feel like one of you two, you and wheels, are not fans of the All-Star game. Am I right? I'm not. I'm not either. Oh, well, that's good. We're in the same club. I used to be, but obviously, you know, that was a different time when you didn't see everybody all year long like you do now. You know, I do like the home run derby, but I can only take so much of it because it goes too long. Yeah. My objection to, and I'm not a big home run. I did get a chance to work with John, the home run derby that was in St. Louis when St. Louis had the All-Star game. And I was interested in that. That was kind of cool to be there. But in terms of celebrating that one particular part of baseball, a home run derby, it's just, I feel like that's almost been kind of a direction, a bad direction for the game in my mind to just to kind of make it so power hungry. So that's why I don't like the home run derby part. And, you know, like I don't like slam dunk in basketball for the same reason. I mean, I love basketball. I love baseball, but I don't like the kind of the extraneous kind of contests around it. But the reason the All-Star game has lost its luster for me is, you know, American League and National League has lost its luster for me. There is no American and National. There are. There are just people in different divisions. But it's not the way it used to be. It used to be, man, I'm going to watch Willie Mays up against, you know, the Yankee stars. I mean, it was a big deal to see your National League's best up against the American League's best. Right now, you know, it's Steve Boris's best up against this other agency's best and whatever team you happen to be on at the moment. I mean, it just doesn't have that same kind of appeal to me. I would love to see it. And look, I understand baseball is very traditional and I don't think this is going to happen. But think about the excitement level if we treated the All-Star game maybe every four years. like you do the World Baseball Classic, where it's, you know, you split them up by countries or regions of the world or whatever. Yeah. Because, and I'm not saying, look, I get it. Tradition is big thing for baseball, but. that would bring some of that element that you're talking about, Ricky, which would be special for the players to compete. But I know how you do that on like one day. That's a lot. Yeah, practically stuff. There's a lot of practicalities to that in the midst of a season to figure out. And yeah, I don't think that's a bad concept if you can ever figure out how to work it out. But I'm still, you know, I'm not, again, you don't always have to go backwards. But I think in the sense of where the game is right now, I wouldn't mind if we went backwards to just playing a division a year in the American league and I think maybe you can get back the rivalry of the Dodgers and the Giants and the Red Sox and the Yankees and the Cardinals and the Cubs and whoever else because you're playing them more which I think would be good you can get familiarity which often breeds tensions and all that stuff which would also be good I think for people who follow baseball but it's just too

It's too kind of spread out right now. When Jim Jordan Walker has 45 big league home runs against 45 different pitchers, that's a problem. I mean, there's nobody that you say, well, he really owns that guy or that guy owns him. You know, he's one for three against people. I mean, that doesn't, there's no kind of storyline to go with that I think, you know, Kyle Hendricks pitching all those games against the Cardinals and beating time after time. Well, you don't really get a chance to do that anymore because you don't play each other often enough. You're so right. a kid and I got to see Rod Carew. You know, you're like, holy hell. Yeah, that's right. And I think the reason they started it is they wanted people to see Ichero and they wanted people to see Griffey, you know, National League fans. Well, you know, the way the way baseball spread out now and continuing to. evolve, you're going to have more expansion teams at some point, and you're not going to be that far away from being able to watch whatever player you want to watch. And, you know, if you're in St. Louis, you can go to Kansas City and watch any American League game you want. Chicago, you can watch them both New York, West Coast. I mean, I just think it's a little easier to do that now. Yeah, I think that's a big part, Ricky, too, of why offense is what it is. I mean, I think Ted Williams used to go through a whole season and face like 80 pictures, and now it's like 280 different pictures that these guys are facing. Yeah, and I've advocated that too, Kevin. I've said if you want pitchers to start making a comeback and hitters to kind of have to figure out a different way than... You want pitchers and hitters to be on equal footing. Let's put it that way. Then you're going to have to have them face each other more often. And the only way to do that is to get rid of the interleague play part. I think it's just too hard to hit right now. And that's why there's so many strikeouts. So you want to cut down on strikeouts. Get rid of interleague play. And I don't think they're going to do that. But that's I would consider it. It's that and the way bullpins are used too. Yeah, right. I mean, you're not seeing a starter for seven or eight innings. You're seeing them for four or five in a lot of cases. And like Ted Williams, 19. The last time a guy hit 400, he faced 74 pitchers. Yeah. And now you're more likely to face something close to 250 or 300. Yeah, exactly. I mean, you're facing guys now where you wonder why, you watch when you're at the ballpark where you watch Brant Brown stand in front of the dugout when a new pitcher comes into the game. And you have five people standing around him and they're going through stats about the guy. And you think, well, why does he have to do that? Well, he has to do that because they haven't seen that guy very often. I mean, it's just, you know, again, if it's a, the Cardinals would never have that meeting in front of the dugout for how to hit Lee Smith because we would have seen him enough with the Cubs that you don't need a meeting. You just know the dude throws hard and you better get lucky. I mean, that's just kind of how it is. But now there really is a lot of teaching that has to go on. Guys, how important is it for the club to be at the record they are now or better after the All-Star game? You know, by the time the All-Star game comes around.

Well, I mean, it is the halfway point. We were actually in the second half of the season starting today, which is interesting. So, you know, the All-Star game always ends up being that delineation because we say, you know, there's pre-all-Star break and post-all-star break. Well, in my mind, you've competed the first half of the season. And as of... game number 81, the Cardinals were the third wild card, a playoff team. Now, I understand that doesn't amount to anything, doesn't give you anything, but it shows you that you've made progress beyond what you thought you would do. So if you could kind of tread water that way and just keep doing that, you know, some teams are going to get hotter, and you realize that some team's going to run off a whole bunch of wins and be tough to chase. And I think the Cardinals are going to be true to form in terms of their development. That's what they promised they would do. But, you know, just I. think it'd be wonderful for Cardinal baseball if they could have the same second half they had in the first half. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not. as focused about what it'll look like after the coming out of the break as much as I am, you know, like about four weeks after that. Yeah, that's right. When we get up to the trade deadline, because that's what you've got to choose a path, and you've got three choices. You can stay the course, you can add or you can subtract. And that's going to be determined by the next five weeks. So you're talking about late July. And when we get to late July, the haves are going to have more halves and the knots are going to have more knots. So you're going to have to figure out. kind of which one you are. And now there's always a case where you try to do the standstill model or maybe just try to do a little bit of adding and subtracting. And I think the Cardinals might do that. But regardless of which way you go, there's definitely, it's definitely crossroad moment there in late July. You know, it's a great problem to have because I hear people calling into you, Kev, like on Rush Hour, like, where's Rodriguez and where's Baez and where's this? What a great problem to have that we haven't had for a while. Well, that can play into what you just said, Ricky. I mean, like, as an example, if you're a month down the road and you've got a quality offer for someone like Lars Neutbar, and Baez is Baez, well, you've got a ready replacement, so you might be taking a player off, but you have an obvious answer for it, and you might get something else that you're a little shorter on. Yeah, I don't think there's an answer. Maybe I'm wrong about it. I don't think there's an answer right now in AAA where you go, well, you know, if you just have a chance, he'll come up and hit 50 home runs or he'll come up and win 10 games in the second. I don't think there's that guy yet at this moment. But there are guys that certainly could get experience at the big league level. And so if you're saying, boy, we're going to be demonstratively better if we get Bayez here. I don't know if Baez will be much different than Lars Nupar would be. I don't know. Maybe he would. a good bad or indifferent, whatever you think about that. But, I mean, the point is it's unproven. And when you bring up a guy that's hitting 270 and AAA, what does 270 and AAA mean in the big leagues? I mean, we know that it's a very different league in the big leagues. And you're not going to get those same. You can't just transpose those numbers into the big leagues. You just can't do it. Rick, for once, you have to be kind of happy not to be playing in St. Louis this week.

Oh, my, well, you know what it is here? It's 107. Oh, crap. You know, they call this hotlanta, you know, Dave. So, yeah, no, I actually played golf yesterday, and I'm, well, I'm still alive, so I'm happy. Nice. All right, don't tell Rooney, I said that stupid thing. I already told him, sorry. Too late. How can you laugh when you know I'm dumb? How can you laugh? We should play this in the band. Do you think enough people know it? I don't know this song, but I'm enjoying it. You don't know Big Country? No. By Big Country? I guess not. About the Big Country? Jam it for a second. Turn it up. Which country? Better be the United States. July 4th is coming up. I believe they're Scottish. I know that's right. Ew. Get out of you. Do you know this one, Kev? I know it. And you hate it? Yeah. You don't know this song. It was a huge song in the 80s. Was it? Yes. It was a huge cool song for cool people. Yeah. It was huge in the woods. Was it around the same time as like the band Asia was really big? Because they have a similar band. Another great band? They have a little similar sound. Oh, they sound nothing like Asia. There's a similarity. My God. They all sound like... This is like me talking baseball. They all sound like the 80s. You sound like the 80s. Thank you. Your butt sounds like the 80s. What's the oldest big hit? So is Asia, heat of the moment? That's right. So is Asia not cool? I think they're real cool. Well, when he compared big country to Asia, it seemed like he got a little offended. No, because they're very different. Okay. Yeah. I didn't. They're both pop rock bands from the 80s, but. Yeah. I thought they were kind of, I thought they sounded kind of simple. You're trying to cause trouble, aren't you? I thought they sounded kind of similar. I thought they sounded kind of similar. He's trying to start crap. You're trying to play the Dave part. This part's taken. Provocator is taken. A judge in Alaska ruled that a rando named Dan Sullivan can run against sitting Senator Dan Sullivan in the Republican primary. Why not? Why not? There's no rule that says you can't have the same name? Eddie Murphy made a movie called Distinguished Gentleman. How great was that? About that. It's International Asteroid Day and Meteor Day. Or it's a coincidence. Yeah. How did they get both on the same day? I don't know. Let's know somebody. Man, that kind of seems like whenever your birthday is on Christmas, it's like, dude, asteroids and we got to share. This is so stupid. Which one do you think is mad about it? The asteroids are the meteorites? Probably the asteroids. If I crash landed on Earth and then I was like, so when's my day? And they were like, oh, you got to share it with a meteor. You got to share it with that clown. And be like, what the heck? We need to Google this one. My show prep says, Have you ever ordered a fish fillet Norwegian style? And then it didn't tell me what it was. What? What's Norwegian style? Wait, it just stopped there? Yes. Mish. It's just prinking you. It said nothing else after that. Sounds like schizophrenia, too. Let's see. I don't see anything. Okay, here it is. So it's pan fried with butter and a crispy skin.

What? In Norway and Sweden, you can order a fish Mcfeast, which is a filial fish patty on a sesame bun with tomatoes, lettuce, onions, and then the story cuts off because I have to click on the link. We're really having trouble there. I haven't been to Norway, so no, I have not ordered it Norwegian stuff. If you go to the McDonald's on Tucker Carlson Boulevard in St. Louis and you say give me the Norwegian filet of fish, I don't think it's going on. You're getting a baseball bat to the shins. I mean, you ask for that there. I don't know why it's got a fancy name. It's just panseared fish with the skin still on it and then butter and lemon. Like, okay, that's fish. Can I have it Norwegian style? I bet if you asked that at a restaurant, they'd be like, what are you talking about? The Fish McFeast also, so it has tomato, iceberg, lettuce, pickled cucumber, and onions. And then instead of tartar sauce, it has ketchup, mustard, and something called Fish McFeast sauce. No. Man, that's awful. We don't have the stuff. I don't like ketchup and mustard on it. That sounds bad. Jacob says, if Kevin goes after Phil Susan Collins or Genesis, I'm driving down there. Good luck, buddy. Bring some friends. Oh! Now we're just openly threatening listeners. He's threatening me over my opinions on music. If any chatter dares to step to Kevin, I'm backing up, Kevin. I got us back. Depending on how big Jacob is, I may join him. If he's small, I'm on your side. Yeah, I didn't say I'd stay behind Kevin. I just mean, yeah, I'll start there. Hold on, now. I was here both sides. I'll look around and go, guys! You guys? You guys fan of the Jason Segal movie for Getting Sarah Marshall? Yeah. I like it too. And I love his Dracula play. Yeah. I think it's very, very funny. Very silly. He's making that into a movie. He's making that Dracula play into a live action movie. With puppets? I'm guessing. It's a great question, though. Sure. I would hope it's with the puppets. That sounds fun. I like the music that he wrote for it. I'm losing my whimsy. It sounded stupid to me. You think it sounds stupid? I mean, yeah. I mean, there's no reason it wouldn't be funny. I mean, it'd be like any other, you know what I mean? I think the reason that you don't like it is because it's from the other movie. I think if he just said, hey, I'm going to make this funny Dracula musical or whatever. Yeah, probably. Maybe then you'd be more. That's true. I'm a big fan of just leave it alone. Yeah. Yeah, big fan of leave it alone. I never meant to be so bad to you. One thing I said that I would never do. Welcome back DGS on KMOX. You got to get on the stream. It's a whole show happening over on the stream. People are marshalling forces against Kevin Wheeler because he's bad talking Phil Susan Collins and Genesis. Jacob says I'm big enough. I like that. All right. I'm going to steal that. All right. Your music's not.

Speaking of haters. He just likes conflict. Speaking of haters. He likes upsetting people. He's so tiny. Why does that make me mad? How am I so easily triggerable at 61? I'm not supposed to care about anything. I cared deeply. When it was a joke. I haven't thought of Asia in 10 years and now I'm ready to fight Wheeler over Asia. As I always tell you guys, if you have charity stuff coming up, especially anything for veterans or kids, reach out to Andrew. We'll at minimum give you a shout out or have you do a little hit on the show, as we're going to do right now with Chris Freeman, who's been on the show a couple of times, jeepin for vets, which is July 18th. Chris, welcome back to the show. Hey, Dave. Thanks for having me again, man. We really appreciate it. Anytime, brother. So I can figure out what it is, but tell us what is happening on July 18th. Yep, absolutely. So Jeep and Vervettes, this will be our fourth year having it at the Highland, Illinois, VFW. And when I say Jeep, we all know that this is 100% anything that wants to come ride. We actually put a challenge out of somebody shows up with a party bus. And rides the entire right route. I'll buy them up here. Nice. So we encourage just anybody to come out because this event is the primary fundraiser for our veteran aid fund. So if a veteran here in the local area, mostly Highland, mostly Madison County, if they need a ramp installed, if they need help paying bills. Just if they need anything, we have the ability to provide that to them. They can do it just off to the side, very quiet with our folks. Nobody has to know what's going on and just get them hooked up. You know what? That is so great. I've never heard someone say it that way. I've never really had that thought in my head. But, you know, we all have our pride. Veterans have great pride. My dad would have never asked for help, even if he needed it. And I think that's wonderful that you don't make a spectacle of it. Yeah, I think it's absolutely awesome, buddy. Like military folks in general will always say, oh, I'm not going to the doctor because I don't need to know what's wrong with me. And so, yeah, talking to that pride thing exactly. If it's a financial thing, everybody, even if you're not military, financial things impact people in different ways, then we can all imagine. And we don't want to talk about it. Nobody does. So that's why we want to make it just confidential. We want to do what we can on the side, never ask for anything in return, never ask for any praise or promoting. So do you get a lot of super cool jeeps and trucks and motorcycles and stuff?

We do get some super cool jeeps and motorcycles. I actually had last year we had a Humvee show up. So the dude had actually fully decked this Humvee out. He had a fake-caliber gun on top of it. So it looked like he was going to war for us. In Highland, Illinois, you never know if that's fake or not. Well, that's valid. And, you know, it was closer to the cornfields. So it could have actually been something real, but the guy seemed super nice. He shook my hand. So, yeah. That's very cool. So whole family, free to get in, tickets. How do you do it? Yep, so obviously anything that the VFW does is going to be for the entire family. It's not going to be, there will be obviously beer involved at some of the stops, but it's not going to be anything that's not extremely kid friendly. And then the fee to get in, yep, we do charge $20 per person. That's how we raise the funds for this. A portion of that goes into the, actually the largest portion goes into the Veterans Aid Fund. Some of it will help. in the event that we have to make up some fees, like something big that I want to announce before we close out here, something we're paying for this year. So $20 a person, if you show up with five people in your vehicle, we'll just charge you to the standard rate of four people. So the more people you fit in your vehicle, the better. And then we go out to these different stops. We're going to hit Staunton-Litchfield, a very small town called Panama. And then Pocahontas, Illinois. And so we're supporting those small VFWs and businesses as well. So they'll get something out of it. So it's just good time all around, man. I don't know Panama. And I grew up over there. So Panama, I didn't know about until we actually did this route. I had a friend to tell me that the Panama VFW is the one that is most in need in our area because it's a very small town. It used to be a coal mining town. Coal mine got shut down. I want to say it was like 115 people was on the sign, like the population sign. So it's out there. It's in the middle of nowhere, but it is such an awesome hall. It's just as big as the one in Highland, and it's a beautiful drive to get there. It's just, man, people should take that cruise just to go see what it's like because it's open to the public. That's cool. So what's your big thing you want to talk about, Chris? Yeah, so this is the first time ever that we are going to have a live band outside. It's going to be completely open to the public. So if you are not participating in the ride and you still want to come out for some food, some music, some beer, just good times. Come on out to the Highland VFW. Band's going to start about 7 o'clock at night. This is going to be their first time playing for us ever. Just a small bar hopping band called Midwest Avenue Band here out of Illinois. I'm super excited to have them come and just...

Just continue to make the day go on even better. Chris, is there a website or anything for people to go to? Yep, absolutely. They can go to Facebook.com forward slash jeepin, J-E-E-P-I-N, the number four, VETS, and that's got everything that we need to know about it on there. Also, I did want to say we are providing barbecue food. We're not providing. There will be food. available and then extra stuff will be available for purchase. Barbecue food prepared on site by one of the veterans, there will be no Norwegian fish, though. Nice. Sorry. Nice. I am spoken for this year. I promise I'll come out next year. Maybe I'll bring my band. Yeah, I actually wrote that down when I was writing down some notes about the band and stuff. I was like, you know what? Maybe we should ask Dave about his band. So yeah, we should definitely chat about that, see if we can get you out here. Cool, brother. Good luck, man. All right, man. Thanks so much. You're welcome. Uh, Rach, you're just talking about this. Uh, Robert on the stream says this want to punch her in the face nonsense brought up by Sam Page is embarrassing. How juvenile. I don't know anything about this. Yeah, I guess there was, they were having some sort of meeting and I literally, Dave, I told you on the break. I'm like, I don't really have much to say other than. St. Louis County politics are so mired in this petty nonsense all of the time. They've lost the thread, haven't they? Well, I get that people hate Sam Page. I get the people have reasons for hating Sam Page. But I feel like it has gotten to a point where it's like... You say Snide comments like, I'm going to punch you in the face. And then the Sam Page administration is like, you're threatening physical violence on me. And then everyone's focusing on this absolute distraction instead of what's actually going on in the government. I don't follow St. Louis County politics very closely at all. The things I hear are petty fights like this, playing out all of the time. I would find this humiliating if I were involved with this in any way. I think these people, everyone who is constantly mixed up in that type of drama when you are supposed to be serving the people of St. Louis County, I think you should be ashamed of yourself. And it just needs to stop. It's ridiculous. And I'm not over here saying like this person was right, this person was wrong. I hear the story that Michael just did on the air and I go, oh my gosh, everybody, chill out, calm down and focus on doing your job. Yeah, maybe grow up. Yes.

It looks like someone is gifting the president or the country with a giant golden eagle that would go on the balcony where he was saluting when he had COVID. So we got that going for us. Also, I think it's a New York Times just broke a story that the administration secretly signed, already months ago, signed a $500 million no-bid contract. to build the East Wing Ballroom. I hate these no bid things. You know, there's a reason to have bids. Yes. You want to get the most competitive bid. You want it to be transparent. Anytime you tell me it's no bid, I'm going to kind of assume there's shenanigans going on. But a half a billion dollars. Can I ask a question? And if I just sound like a complete communist, you just let me know. Sure. Why doesn't the government just... have their own companies that do these type of jobs wholesale. Not a stupid question. Why do we have to hire a company that's profiting to do something that's for the American people paid for by American tax dollars? Like as an example, you go back in the day in the military, a lot of the things that were done were done by the military and now they're contracted. Yeah, like why do we do that? I'm sure it's not to save money. I think it's so we can give political favors. Well, I mean, I mean, if you can show me that it's cost effective, wonderful. I mean, if it's cheaper to do it that way, that would be wonderful. But why do I not believe that? Yeah. Because you're not stupid. Except about music. I guess it could be in part because, I mean, I'm not being a smartest here because the makeup of the military has changed so much over time. Because there hasn't been a draft since Vietnam. Yeah. And you don't have to have the numbers. Like what you have now are just the people that choose to go in and serve and fight and, you know, take on the various technical roles or whatever. Yeah. Maybe you just don't have the numbers you would need to maintain food and logistics and things like that? Maybe. Yeah, but don't you think more people would want to join if it was like, yeah, and you could go into a career and you're a military contractor and this is what you do. And you can spend 30 years of your life doing that. Yeah, I get it. Want me tell you how stupid I am? Or should I wait until after the break? I'll tell you now. Okay. I've already said that until Marine made me stop, I opened every loaf of bread from the middle. But here's one. Unsolved Mysteries has been on since like the 80s, 90s. I've seen 100 episodes. I was kind of passively watching one last night and I got to the end and I thought to myself, boy, they don't wrap these up very well. They really kind of leave you hanging. It's almost like they told you in the name. Yes. Yes. I am so sick of this show. That is so great. It's absolutely true. And I was like, oh, unsolved mystery. How about we have a show called Solved Mysteries? Right. That's what we want. I always thought like, man, they didn't solve this one again. I always just like to be real. That's funny. Welcome back DGS 322. Happy Tuesday.

This next thought's going to go nowhere, but I have to get it out of my face. Kev, last night I was thinking about the new CBA with the MLB, and the owners have already kind of said, oh, here's what we won. Here's the ceiling, and here's the this and here's the that. And, of course, it's ridiculous. And knowing that we're going to negotiate it down. But does it... Sort of like strike anyone is weird that after probably 10,000 years of actual negotiating, we're still kind of doing it the same way. It's the dumbest. It's the dumbest thing. And I hear it all the time. And I know it's real. It's just dumb. Well, nothing happens until there's a deadline. What are we? Five? Yeah. Like, oh, you better get that done before school tomorrow. Congress is like that. Why in the world? Can't you just do it now? And the problem is nobody can accept anything but victory. A fair compromise that benefits both sides in the negotiation is never okay. You got to win. Or at least try, right? And push it to the left. Like with baseball. Pro sports is my world. That's what I've lived in for 30 years. Every person that owns a sports franchise is already incredibly wealthy. You're already billionaires. And you're really going to cause all of this negativity and do damage to your product so you can get a little more. Are you serious? You know, and you could make the same argument in the reverse, right? Players are making a lot. But most players don't make that kind of money. Like the average is higher than the mean, right? Most players are under a million dollars a year, which is a lot of money. Let's not be clear. I want to say, there's a lot of, the minimums 800,000 are close to it. That's a lot of money. But like when you already are worth billions and you own multiple businesses and you've got franchises, you own communications businesses and shipping companies, why do you need to squeeze every other dollar out of this? Yeah. Wheels, when you say the minimum's $800,000, so if they get traded and have to move, will the teams pay or the league pays for that? Oh, no. They have to cover it themselves. No, you're on your own. See, and that's when it's like, I mean, $800,000 still is a ton of money, but if you're uprooting your family. And, like, changing your kid's schools and your wife is leaving, whatever she has going on. Like, that, I mean, that kind of gets whittled away at maybe quicker than it would seem. Yeah, if you're making 800, that doesn't mean you're making 800. Right. Right. There's a percentage of that that's going to your agent. And then you're taking taxes out of all of that, you know, union dues, things like that. So, yeah, I mean, it's still, again, it's still a lot of money. Right. Yeah. But the point is like money is no object at that point. It's not like you're the, it's not like you're at the level of people who own sports franchises. And that's the thing where it gets to be that this is their competitive sport. Those owners, what they care about. That's how they win. They win by getting more and more and more. And I would love to see it just in one area in sports or entertainment where it's like, okay, we're making money on this and the revenues going up. We're all independently wealthy anyway. You don't have very many just like mom and pop teams in the world of sports. That doesn't really exist. Maybe a few, the Green Bay Packers.

You know, the bears are owned by the Hallis family. The McCaskies is the name of the family now. So, but mostly, and even the do-its, right, it's a family business, but they have many interests. They have other businesses, too. And I really wish that ownership in sports would be a little bit more like, okay, we got to be better caretakers for the sport. as opposed to we just got to find a way to get more. Can I completely kind of change the subject while staying on subject? You just said something really interesting in that like this is how they win. Yeah. I'm sure it's always been like that, but it seems like they hit it from us, like these big corporations, they would be like, oh yeah, we're all in this together. And there was a certain like nobility to like. making your way in this world in the United States. However, it seems like the culture has shifted to now we celebrate the people who just squeeze and squeeze and get every single drop. And I'm wondering why does the average person celebrate that so much when typically it ends up keeping the rest of us down? No idea. I don't know. I mean, when you see a lot of these labor disputes, just going back to the example, you get a large percentage of fans that root against the players. And I don't understand that at all. Like, those are the guys that entertain you. They're the ones out there on television or on the field when you're at the ballpark that are doing the work that are entertaining you. And nobody's arguing that they should get all of the money or most of the money. We're just talking about like, all right, let's just kind of split it down the middle. Give them what they're worth. Let's all be reasonable. Not just the owners, players too. Let's all just be reasonable and understand that this is best when everybody's a little bit unhappy. If everybody's a little bit unhappy, that's probably best for the customer, which is best for your business for the long term. I'm more than a little bit unhappy. Yeah. Because we get tired of hearing the nonsense. I get tired of the Commissioner of Major League Baseball six months ago bragging about playoff ratings and how many more young fans are into this and how the game is great. And as soon as it's time to talk labor, six months later, it's like, we are in a dire position. And it's never been worse. Well, which is it, dude? You're saying two opposite things within six months of each other. Yeah. It's almost like you're not being honest. Yeah.

Welcome back, guys. DG.S. 334. Dave, Mary joins us courtesy of the Saliga Heating and Cooling Weather Center. Hello, Dave. Hello there. I have a good story for you. Okay. So, last night, Dave texted me at 11.01 p.m., which means I'd been in bed for like three hours. And I didn't see it until 3 a.m. And anytime you get a text in the middle of the night, it kind of freaks out. And so I get up to go to the bathroom at 3 a.m. and, you know, hit my phone, see what time it is, see if anyone is trying to get a hold of me. And I just see Dave Murray. And I'm like, crap. Dave's still mad about me saying he underplayed the forecast for a day. Oh, yeah. Sure, I'm going to text you about that. I know, I know. But it's three in the morning. I've been asleep. And so I go downstairs wearing nothing but my Birkenstocks because I don't have my reading glasses. I go downstairs at the living room. I'm dreading it the whole way like, oh, I hope he's not really mad. And I put my reading glasses on. And my good friend Dave is just texting me to see how Phoebe Summer's going. And I was so relieved. I was so relieved. Because had he been mad at me, I'm not going to text him. It would have been like, you know. One in the morning for him. What were you anticipating the confrontational text to have said? Well, in the light of day, I would be really surprised if Dave sent me a mean email. That's right. But at three in the morning, I'm like, anything's possible. Better not come to work tomorrow, pal. I heard you were talking trash. But that was very kind of you to ask about Feeb. So thank you very much. That's good. That's all good news. I don't want to be in the category of, like, Marjorie Taylor Greene and Jewish space lasers and hurricanes. But Dave, I read an article that was on Drudge, whatever that's worth, saying that Japan and China think they're really close to being able to steer a hurricane through some sort of cloud seeding. We've heard that before, haven't we? We have. We have. Is that something that you could see in the future, or is it so... enormously huge to stir a hurricane. It's kind of like making rain when an area needs it because of severe drought. There are tremendous legal questions still. I mean, and this goes way back in time. And the legal questions have always been there. Okay, let's say they develop a way to stir a hurricane somehow. Hurricane's headed, I'm just going to use this as an example. Hurricane is headed for Miami, Florida, South Florida. And they say, you know what? We're going to make it veer away. And it slams into North Carolina. Who's responsible for that? It's a great question. Yeah. I don't know. And I think that's the danger of what we're doing. Same thing with even on a small scale. If you want to make it rain over a ranch in western Kansas.

And you don't make it rain there, but you make it rain in a ranch in Nebraska that doesn't need the rain. And you cause flash flooding and people die. I don't have answers to that. Yeah. Are you a fan of just let Mother Nature do what it's going to do? Yes. Yeah. Because you think of the power of a hurricane. You know, the power of a hurricane makes the atom bomb that was dropped on Japan looked like a fly. You know, it's just incredible energy, incredible power. And so, yeah, I get concerned about messing around with anything. Yeah. That, you know, with Mother Nature in particular. Yeah. Yeah. I have to agree. So. A couple more days of this and then a few more days of not great. Yeah, just the, you know, keep it right through the holiday weekend. There's no reason to change it. The only thing that we mentioned it yesterday is there might be a couple of pop or isolated afternoon evening thunderstorms, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Very isolated, but they could produce heavy downpours of rain, a little thunder and lightning. So if you got caught by one, I don't want to hear, oh, nobody told me this was going to happen. Well, we're telling you it could happen. Most will not see that. The other thing that's happening is it's starting to get a little hazy, and that's typical under a dome of high pressure, but a little added thing is we're seeing some dust come off Africa, and it's traveled basically along the equator, and it's now coming in, came across Florida, it came across the island, still there, and then it's starting to come into the Midwest. That could increase as far as the haze is concerned. It's not going to be at ground level. You're not going to smell anything different. It's not smoke. It's just dust. And it'll probably give us some pretty sunsets over the next, especially I'm thinking Friday, Saturday, Sunday in particular. Okay. Very cool. Before we do headlines, I had a question for you guys. And it's because of the Supreme Court cases that came out today, but it's not about any particular case today or otherwise. But I'm just curious because the Supreme Court has become much more political or politicized, at least, in the last 10 years or so. Do you guys believe that every decision the Supreme Court justices make individually, they make thinking that they are in the right and doing the right thing, as opposed to any sort of aiming the ball or politics or shenanigans? I mean, I guess the question is. What definition of right are we talking about, right on an intellectual constitutional level or right based on how they see the world? That's a good question. Because they're all chosen by whoever chooses them partly because of how they see the world. And almost exclusively now. Right, which is the worst part. It should be a much more academic process I would like it to be. Yeah. I guess what I'm asking is do you think they make the best decision they can on the law or do they let their personal feelings about trans people or XYZ come into it. I think it's both. I think they're may, I think it's impossible for anyone to make any decision without bias. That's what makes us human. And if you think you're not biased, you're lying to yourself.

I do think that each of them individually is doing what they believe is right. The thing is the law is there for interpretation. That's why we have the Supreme Court for each of them to interpret it the way that they've studied it and the way they take everything to mean. So. I mean, yeah, I don't think there is one of them sitting there like, yeah, I know this is wrong, but I'm just going to go ahead and force my worldview. They have a justification for every decision they're making. I mean, don't they write out the... Yeah, like Clarence Thomas did a 91-page dissent, which was much longer than the majority opinion in... Chief Justice Robert's opinion today upholding the 14th Amendment and birthright citizenship. He wrote 91 pages on why he thought it was bad. Okay, so 91 pages on why the Constitution is wrong. Yes. Because it's black and white in the Constitution. The 14th Amendment exists. The only, I mean, like, what's the count? What's the legal, rational, logical counter to that? His basic argument was that the 14th Amendment was largely, and in his estimation, exclusively, to deal with slaves. once they were freed to say, well, if you were born here, you're a citizen. But it doesn't say that. It doesn't say that. The language is very clear. Yes. So again, from a legal standpoint, isn't it all language? Isn't that what law is? Yeah. The application of language, the way that words are strung together to create a meaning. Within history. Because that's huge with the Supreme Court. Sure. You know. But I mean. We have processes in place to change amendments. It's just really hard. And we shouldn't be able to just change it because it's really hard. If it's worth it, do it. If it's right and enough people will come along, then you'll get it done. And if they don't, well, that's a democracy. If the people don't want it, they don't get it. I think the problem is, like, I feel like the job of a judge, any judge, should be to actively... Try to distance every case from your own personal beliefs as you're going through the facts. Like, Grache is right. You can't do it 100%. It's not possible. But the job should be, the whole point of a judge is impartiality. That is the entire point of the position. But do you think that Clarence Thomas goes home at night and goes like, I know, I, I'd. No, I just think he's right. He believes he's right. Right. Like so many other people just believe they're right. And that's it. That's human nature, right? Like you think that your worldview is the correct worldview or else it wouldn't be your world. Right. But the job of a judge is not what my view is. The job of a judge is to neutrally.

moderate or mediate between two parties that disagree on an issue and then to interpret what the law is, what the precedents are or whether a new precedent needs to be set based on interpretation of the law, not just based on your overall worldview. It should be much more narrow. But that word interpretation. implies the bias. Right. And the word interpretation implies that two people could look at the same sentence and get different information from it. And that's where the bias comes to. All of us have biases for everything. But we don't make every decision based on those biases. We can pull back and realize we're biased and say, all right, that's probably my personal bias. That may not be the right way to go on a neutral, when I'm trying to decide a case. But do we think that Clarence Thomas's interpretation of the 14th Amendment? the fact that it was written directly to address slavery. Do we think that that is necessarily his personal bias coming into play or is that? Hey, I've studied this for years and this is genuinely my interpretation. Of course, my biases play into it, but I don't think he's like, oh, everything else aside, it's just my world view. I think, I mean, there is, he's got to have some sort of ground to stand on to have arrived at that conclusion. I don't think he's like an unintelligent person. No, no, no. It's not a matter of dumb or smart. It's a matter of how much you're willing to step personally back without your emotions being a part of it. And believe me, I don't know the law like Clarence Thomas, but I do find it interesting that you're going to read into the context when it comes to the 14th Amendment, but not the Second Amendment. Because when the Second Amendment was written, what were we talking about with weapons and guns? Muskets. We were talking about single-shot muskets. We were talking about something that was extremely difficult to do significant amount of damage unless you had significant numbers of shooters. and the world is not that anymore. So if we're going to apply that standard, and I'm not talking about, like, again, he knows more the law than I do. That's not my point. I'm trying to think about the logic of, in one case, we're going to use context in historical context and reason, and in the other one, we're just not. We're going to treat it like, that's the gospel, and it was etched in stone on a mountain, and that can't change. But is that how that works, or does it come down to each individual case that comes in? If there was a stronger case being made to do something about the Second Amendment, like, I truly believe if we're going to repeat, we'll never repeal the Second Amendment, but if we change it in some way, there's a piece of the puzzle that we just haven't figured out yet. That's why I love learning about the laws. It's like, okay. Yeah, I see where you're coming from, but that wasn't good enough. You got to go back to the drawing board and try again. Is there a case to be made that could open even Clarence Thomas? Not that I know much about Clarence Thomas's stance on the Second Amendment specifically, but is there a case to be made that could unlock something in any justice's mind? Maybe.

Maybe we just haven't gotten there yet. Yeah. I find it fascinating, though, that, like, we do this. And again, it's not about the law. This is about the logic. How can one amendment basically be unassailable, but another one is not? But that's, but it doesn't apply to this. It absolutely does. No, it doesn't. The 14th Amendment has nothing to do with the second amendment. No, no, but they're amendments. They were put into law by the process that we say. But they didn't say the reason why we're doing the 14th. Like, it's just, I don't think your logic is sound on this one. I think it's right on the line. If one thing being in the Constitution makes it unassailable. But if you flip it around, then that means, okay, then we can change the 14th Amendment based on historical context because we want to change the second amendment. We can change the amendment. but we can't pretend that the amendment doesn't say what it says or that it says something that it doesn't. We're putting words in there that aren't there. And with other amendments, yes, we understand the context of the time might have meant or implied a certain type of thing. But it's not in there. So like the Second Amendment, it doesn't say muskets. It just says well-armed. You're allowed to bear arms. You have the right to bear arms. So that we've carried forward. And I don't have any problem with this, by the way. Look at the First Amendment. The First Amendment is so important. Yeah. Religion. Freedom from religion. Not establishing a religion. The press. And it's like 18 words. Yeah. It's intentionally broad. And I think the Second Amendment is intentionally broad, right? I really don't know. Well, then that would mean, aren't they all kind of? I would love to know. Well, then the 14th should be interpreted broadly, like the second and the first. But I understand, but you would have to apply that same logic to a liberal justice wanting to, like, so are you going to complain the same way? I do, yes. Absolutely. 100%. Because we have to come down on how this – it's the process, not the result. We're too focused on the result. The process should simply be everything we bring up or every case we hear as a Supreme Court. The standard should be the same. Whether it's a left-leaning or right-leaning principle that's being attacked or challenged or whatever. It doesn't matter. But it's in the way that these lawyers argue for the change that it comes down to. You can't just say like, hey, no matter how the case is presented, we all know what the right thing is and we're going to do the right thing. It comes down to how it's argued in court. Am I right, Dave? Sure, but you're making decisions based on precedent, in this case, 150 years old. Right? So are we now supposed to be able to get inside the minds of people from 150 years ago and not what they wrote, but maybe what they thought? Yes. They try to. I know this is my point. That seems highly illogical. I just love if someone's tuning in to the DGS for the first time. I think this. I called you twice, but your name is.

Welcome back, guys, DGS on KMOX. Viewing as past 4 p.m. Happy Tuesday. Skip Weber is here. Weber Chevrolet is a sponsor of the Sweet 16. We have a good one. I'm sure we've done it before in the 20 years when doing it, but it's been a long time. I don't remember ever doing it. I don't either. I don't think we have. It's either one of the early ones. There's a lot of things you can make categories out of. Oh, yeah. And we legitimately do repeat some, but I'm pretty sure we've never done this. So this is the Sweet 16 of fictional doctors. Okay, point of clarification, because this is a really, no, this really big. Are we talking people that portrayed actual, like, medical doctors, or can we, or is it broader than that? That's exactly what I was saying, too. I narrowed it to only medical doctors as opposed to somebody who has a doctorate in, in, you know, mathematics that is. Dr. Zeus. Yeah. Right. He's not fictional. Yeah, I think all of mine are medical doctors. Yeah, I think most of mine are, but there are a couple that kind of walk that line. So if you guys want to shoot them down, obviously there are a lot good. I think a couple of mine are like scientists or doctors, but they were doctors of something. Right, right. Lead it off. I'm going to go with a scientist doctor, but I'm pretty sure he was pretty good at medical. And that is yours and my favorite. Dr. Zayas. Oh, my God. I forgot about Dr. Zayas. That's awesome. That's the first thing I thought about. Oh, man. That's great. That's how sick am I. I thought my first one. All the great doctors and medical shows and all this in literature. And the first thing I thought about was there's no contradiction between faith and science. I love it. I love it. Andrew. Dr. John Watson. Hey. Yep. It was on mine, too. Wheels. Dr. Hawkeye Pierce. Yeah, I hit him too. Yeah, that was going to be my first round draft pick. Yeah. Yeah. Rach. I'm going to go with Dr. Nick from the Simpsons. Love him. Oh, yeah. That's fine. That's good. It was always a good time when Nick showed up, right? Loved him. I'll go pepper. No. What about his band? I'm going to go Bones, Dr. McCoy from Star Trek. That's a good one, yeah. But Dr. Jim, not a. Yeah. Not a bricklayer. I saw. If I were a bigger Star Trek fan, I would rip this off. But I saw on TikTok last night a guy's grave, who is evidently a big Trekkie. And has a picture, you know, on his tombstone of the Enterprise. And it says, beamed up on, you know, September, whatever. And then it says, quote says, he's dead, Jim. I thought that would be awesome. Your kids to see that. Back to you. So I'll take you, Dr. McCoy, which is by far my favorite. But with all the iterations of Star Trek, there's been many others. So I thought, should we include another one? And that thinking led me to just a little bit outside that. And I'm going to go with Dr. Lazarus. from Galaxy Quest, which is a total rip-off of it, but I love Ellen Rickman's... Great movie. And a great character. By the hammer of Grapthar. Graphthlar. Yeah, I mean, total cynic, and at the end, he's kicking people's butt and getting into it. I mean, I thought that was great. Have you seen that movie? Galaxy Quest. If I did, it was a long time ago. It is great. It is great. Yeah. Andrew. It's far better than any Star Trek thing. I'll tell you that.

I'll take Galaxy Quest. Shot fired. Dr. Van Helsing. Oh, good one. There goes one off my list. A lot of these I didn't think of. This is good. Wheels. Dr. Steven Strange. Mm-hmm. Ah, Dr. Strange. Yeah. It's funny that his name is Stephen. I don't know why. It just is. Rach. I'm going to go with Dr. Frazier Crane. I knew you would. Oh, good one. I knew you would. That's a good one. I like that one. Um. I'm going to go one from my childhood, Dr. Bricker from Love Boat. Oh, yeah. The Doc on Love Boat. That guy was a hound. He was a hound. Yeah, you could always, if he had any, any, any, uh. screen time, you can better believe that it involved the best-looking passengers on the thing. Yeah. In the mid-70s, you would have believed, and maybe it was, it was just totally cool to sexually approach anyone on your cruise ship, even though you were part of the crew. Exactly. You're just like, hey, you know. Back to you. All right. I'm going to go with my favorite television doctor. And I'm, well, I love the Harckeye Pierce, too. But this one on a medical show is just genius, geniusly played. I know. And that is Gregory House. Gregory House. I love those. If that's a repeat on there, I watch them all. It's just the solving of it. And then his comments make it all. Yeah. We should do the sweet 16 of best cremudgeons because he would be great for that too. Yeah, he would win that. Or he would compete. Andrew. Dr. Doolittle. That's good. Yeah. Veterinarian. Mm-hmm. Wheels. Dr. Frankenstein. Nice. That's my next one. I had Dr. Frankenstein. That's mine. I think they're related. Put them against each other. Rach. Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman. Ooh. Oh, yeah. Love Jane Seymour. Dr. Quest. Bitten Quest. Bitten Quest. From Johnny Quest. Exactly. All right. We only need one more. We flew through that. Man. Skip what he got. We're good at doctors. Well, I had Dr. Jekyll, Dr. Moreau. I had Trapper John an addition because he had his own show later when I liked that show. And my favorite one, you don't have to use this one, but you may be.

Dave may be the only one that knows this is Dr. Vinny Boombots. Oh, yeah. You remember that? Yeah. All of Robbie DeGfield's... Yeah. I had Bob Newhart, who was a psychiatrist. Yeah. I had Quincy, who was a medical examiner. Dr. Green and Dr. Carter from ER. Pick any... Anything you've heard. I heard Wheels react to this, too. I like Dr. Jekyll. Cool. Yeah. All right. A good one. Got some history to it. Mm-hmm. Yeah? There you go. Thank you. Okay. Sweet 16 of the best fictional doctors of all time. This is going to be good. Dr. Zayas versus Frazier Crane. I don't know Zayas. I got to go Frasier. You don't know who he is? No, I've never heard that name before just now. He's the orangutan from Planet of the Apes. Oh, okay, I still vote for Dr. Crane then. Dr. Zazes? Dr. Zias, Dr. Zazias. Rock being a doctor. I'm going Zayas. I'm going Zayas. Frazier. Oh, Zayas goes down. Dr. Watson versus the loveboat doctor. Loveboat doctor. Yeah. Adam Bricker. Loveboat. Hawkeye from Mash versus Dr. House. Oh, man, is that a good combo? I got to go House. I'm going to go Hawkeye, but that's tough. I loved Mash, but I didn't think that he was my favorite character anywhere near it. I got to go House. Tidey. Crap. This is a tough one. I have to go childhood, and I'm going to go Hawkeye. I thought he was the funniest person in the world. I know. When I was a kid, too, I thought the same thing. When I watched the reruns, he's one of my least favorite characters. Who's your favorite? When you watch him now? I don't know. I like Henry Blake a lot. I did too. I like Henry Blake. And then in the later ones, uh, probably radar some, you know, some of the guys like Rizzo, that's hardly a few of them can be really funny in some of them. I like Winchester, too, of how snobby. He played it so well. And he was so snobby. Remember they kept changing the size of his pants? Yes, yes. He was better than Burns, I thought. You know what? He was because he fought back better. Right, right. He fought back. That show, when they went from Blake to Potter. Potter. Yeah. They didn't miss much. No, that was a great pick. And when they went from Burns to Winchester, they didn't miss much. Well, yeah, I liked Trapper better than BJ. Yeah. BJ's still good. Yeah. But it was a total different character. I mean, but... Henry Blake was hilarious as the total inept lovable guy. And then Harry Morgan comes in as a regular army guy, but still very funny. Remember the one where they brought him the horse and he cried? I love that one. I love that one. He knows you're not just going to the bunkhouse. Dr. Nick from the Simpsons versus Dr. Doolittle. Doolittle. Nick. Dr. Nick? I'll know Doolittle. I pick New Little. I don't know what you guys did.

Nick will moves on. Bones, Dr. McCoy from Star Trek versus Dr. Frankenstein. Frankenstein. Bones. Bones moves on. Dr. Lazarus versus Dr. Quinn Medicine woman. Dr. Quinn. Dr. Quinn. Dr. Quinn. Quinn. Quinn. Oh, I'm going. Good. And moves on. Dr. Van Helsing versus Dr. Quest. Dr. Quest. Von Helsing. West. Van Helsing. Van Helsing. Van Helsing. Man. They just don't know, man. They just don't know. We don't. These kids. Dr. Strange. Referring to the older fictional work in Van Helsing. Dr. Strange versus Dr. Jekyll. Strange. That's a tough one. Jekyll. Jekle. Dr. Jekyll messed a lot of stuff up, though. Do we really want to vote for... That was Mr. Hyde. Yeah. Yeah, Dr. Jekyll was pretty straight, dude. I was just trying to get by. I'm going to do some mistakes. You want to do another one, Rich? Yes. We have time. Sweet 16 of fictional doctors, Dr. Frazier Crane versus Dr. Adam Bricker from Love Boat. Frazier. That makes that pretty easy. Hawkeye versus Dr. Nick from the Simpsons. Hawkeye. Hawkeye. Dr. Nick. Nick. Nick. Wow. There's an upset. Anything Simpson's going to beat pretty much anything else. I love Simpson. You got two automatic votes. Yes. Anything Simpson's, we got two for sure. Yeah. It's like the Supreme Court. Of course, anything old guy. We got two for sure also. Bones from Star Trek versus Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman. Bones. Bones. Bones. Bones. All right. Sorry to the only woman on the entire list. Just kidding. But something to think about. Just pretend that it's bones from the show bones. Well, Rachel. Now, let's talk about us. We didn't say fictional nurses. We are talking about. He actually went there. Oof. Oof. I'm ducking on his behalf. She knows I'm kidding. That's why. She knows I'm kidding. Van Helsing versus Jekyll. Van Helsing. I'll go Jekyll. I like saying it too. I'm going Jekyll too. Jekyll. All right. We are already at the final. This has been an incredibly easy list. This is crazy. This winner might challenge the Supreme winner. Yeah, which is still, it's not, it's Monty Python. I thought we used it last week. It is Calvin and Hobbs for the best friends. Okay. You want to finish it? I mean, we might as well. Okay. Skip as usual before we do the final four. Tell us about what's going on at Weber this month. Well, today is the last day of the month, so I can't tell you too much about what, but, you know, here, generically, first of all, we're open Friday. Close Saturday. Good for you. No, not selling anything on Saturday. I know you always do that. Yeah. I don't understand why you would, but anyway. So there's that. But the incentives, though, do not change till next week because GM is kind of closing down completely. So until that. So all the great stuff we're doing is good through.

You know, the weekend, and it's going to be great. And I think that we will once again rule in the reviews category as the best reviewed Chevy dealer. We've been that way for since they started doing it, actually. And it's gotten even further apart, to be honest with you. So we'll take care of you. That's what it means. Service sales, just come see us, and you will not leave unhappy. Yeah. Three out of four of us are driving Weber cars. No. Oh, you two? Everybody. Yeah, I got a Weber. I didn't know that. I all got a Weber. Oh, good. Should you have an equinox? Because you're always constantly talking about the Bomeritos. So I'm like, oh, I guess this. Just can't shut him up about it. Okay, final four of Sweet 16 of fictional doctors. Dr. Frazier Crane versus Dr. Nick from the Simpsons. This is a tough one for eight. Frasier. Two picks. I'll go Frasier as well. Frazier, Frazier. I mean, yeah, Frazier. Okay. Wow. You guys both went against the Sipsons. With this peer pressure? I'm counting Niles as a part of that, too. Dr. McCoy versus Dr. Jekyll. McCoy. McCoy. McCoy. Yeah, McCoy. There you go. McCoy versus Frazier. Macoy. Frazier. Tie to skip. It's all up to you. Bones. There you go. Whoa. So is Bones a better fictional doctor or? Calvin and Hobbs best fictional friends. Hobbs. Bones. I'm going Bones. I'm going Bones. There we go. New Grand Champion. I love it. Okay. Look at that. We can go home now. He had the best one-liners. Oh, yeah. Pretty much maybe of all TV history. I think his one-liners in... um the fourth movie yeah when he's when he goes back to in time and sees all the yeah it's the inquisition around here he was also a ladies man yeah oh yeah every planet they went to he was getting into shenanigans that they called it yes

Welcome back DGS and KMOX. We lightning speed on that sweet 16. Rachel, you have a great topic. What fast food restaurant would you like to turn into it all you can eat buffet? Yeah. I saw this question posed on Reddit yesterday and I thought if there was ever a DGS question. That's great. Also, I want to remind the folks that Weber's World is brought to you by Weber Chevrolet and Weber Chevrolet.com. But I have thought about this a lot. I think. I would go Taco Bell. Because that's the place I feel like I could eat the most items. Therefore, and all you can eat buffet would just kind of, you know, if you're only going to eat so many quarter pounders in one sitting. What's your first plate at Taco Bell. Oh, chili cheese burrito, my absolute fave. Maybe like a crunch rap. And then maybe like a nachos bell grande. It's very reasonable. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I also really like the grilled cheese burrito. Andrew, what restaurant would you want to be? I mean, it's Taco Bell. She's correct. Having recently experienced and all you can eat Taco Bell buffet, there you go. There is nothing like it, and there is nothing better. Their food is basically built for it. Yeah, the ability to just keep walking up and grabbing taco after taco after taco. Yeah. How many items can you eat? Well, now there's quite a big difference there, right? Are we talking... Yeah, each one's different, yeah. A soft taco, or are we talking, you know, Chalupa Supreme? There's a big difference. Small ones. Small ones. I don't know. I could take down party pack by myself easily. Is that 12? Yeah. Ooh, it's impressive. Yeah, I could do 12. Trying to figure out what I can say to make you be like, no, you can't. You have to do that tomorrow. And then I get a bunch of soft tacos for free. What's the most white castles anyone's ever eaten? I've never really tried to eat more than like five or six. I've never done the crave case, never had one just for me. I tried. When I was touring with my Christian band, we would do this. And I always thought I could eat 12, maybe 20. I don't think I ever topped eight. Yeah. They back up on you pretty quick. They back up on you quick. I think I've done 15. I think they expand in your stomach. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they inflate. So here's something that the younger kids may not know. I love Wendy's. There's not a lot of Wendy's in time. You're enraged. Love Wendy's. But remember Wendy's had an all-you-can-eat buffet in there for many, many, many years? They did, yeah. When did this? They had a big salad bar food bar. Salad bar and then pasta. Salad and pasta. And some of them would include potato, a potato. You could put chili and cheese and all that. You couldn't get a cheeseburger at the buffet, but you could go to Wendy's and order the buffet. And it was great. I loved their spaghetti. We'd go all the time. When I was working in Dallas, we'd go two or three times a week for lunch and just come home. I feel like I really missed out. Yeah. I can't believe you did. Maybe they weren't here in St. Louis. I know that in Dallas. It's a good point because I wasn't here when I was getting them. But it was great. Okay. Yeah, I'd say like Taco Bell's the choice. But if I have to throw out another one, the next choice would be like a chick-fil-a. I was going to say that because of the nuggets. I could eat a million. You can eat 9,000. The other one I will throw out there is Jack in the Box. Because so many of their finger foods are really good. Their egg rolls. I mean, I'd maybe get a burger. We can't eat like more than.

one, maybe two. Yeah. But their onion rings, their fries are all good. Their egg rolls. And their tacos are tremendous. So I would think that's too. That's a good one, too.