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wise decision but apparently some people are very upset about that we'll get into that we will talk about the election so we've got a lot to get to and we want you to be a part of the program 888 570801080 888 570801010 on your cell phone dial pound 250 or of course you can leave us a comment on our talkback line all right um Let's take a few minutes to talk about what happened last night. This is the line, Greg. Zohran Mamdani used this during his speech last night. And some people are calling this line one of the most horrifying ever quotes from a politician. We will prove that there is no problem too large for government to solve and no concern too small for it to care about. So government will solve all our problems. Yes. Not a problem too small, which means that they tend to get right involved, right? He's going to get right involved in your life with the heavy hand of government. Yeah. Now, that sounds on brand, right? I think that's kind of what we thought it was. You know what that means? Taxes, taxes, regulation, taxes, taxes, regulation. Yeah. That's what it's going to mean. And remember Ronald Reagan, the nine most terrifying words in the English language are, I'm from the government and I'm here to help. Apparently, he never heard that. Well, I'll tell you this. None of that actually surprised. That's kind of on brand. I mean, he hasn't really run away from being a socialist, but he was what you mentioned yesterday, a socialist with a smile. I think the part that was surprising to me and not in a good way is I didn't see the smile. Not last night? Beaming. Nope. At least it sounded like, and a lot of people are calling it an angry acceptance speech. And anger wouldn't have been the emotion I thought, especially with him bebopping around and. smiling and telling everyone how excited and optimistic he was. You know, the grimace on his face and the anger in his voice, that's the part that I was surprised. Well, that's what caught the attention of Van Jay Jones. CNN commentator last night, listened to his analysis of Zohran Mamdani's speech last night. I think he missed an opportunity. I think the Zohran Mamdani that we saw on the campaign trail, who was a lot more calm, who was a lot warmer. who was a lot more embracing, was not present in that speech. And I think that mandong is the one you need to hear from tonight. There are a lot of people trying to figure out, can I get on this train with him or not? Is he going to include me? Is he going to be more of a class warrior even in office? I think he missed a chance tonight to open up and bring more people into the tent. I think his tone was sharp. I think he was using the microphone in a way that he was almost yelling. And that's not the mom time that we've seen on TikTok and the great interviews and stuff like that. So I felt like there's a little bit of a character switch here where the warm, open, embracing guy that's close to working people was not on stage tonight. And there were some other voice on stage. That said, he's very young.

And he just pulled off something that's very, very difficult. And I wouldn't write him off, but I think he missed an opportunity to open himself up tonight. And I think that that will probably cost him going forward. That's Van Jay Jones. I think he's not only very young. He's also very naive. He's 34 years old, Greg. He's never run a business. He was taught as some of the most liberal schools by a very liberal group of socialist parents, basically. The guy has no experience of running anything, yet the people of New York just put him in charge of a city of what, 8 or 9 million people? Wow. And, you know, when I was a kid, and we used to try to tease the rich kids. You know, we were the poor kids we teach them. We used to call him Little Lord Fauntleroy's running around with their, you know, with their... Anyway, I think he's a little Lord Fauntleroy. He was raised by wealthy parents that, you know, they have luxury beliefs. Luxury beliefs are you do so well and your basic needs are met. You get luxury beliefs. You can believe in philosophical ideas that never really touch your life. You just get to think about them and feel good about them. You know, the... What's not a luxury belief is how you pay for the rent or the mortgage. How do you pay for groceries? The rubber meets the road. Yeah. And it's shocking. I thought I would have told you that the poll numbers coming back would have shown the youth and the everyday people voting for him. The polls show different. It shows the people with the master's degrees, the elite, the, you know, the upper class voting for him in droves. The people from the working neighborhoods, the working class neighborhoods in New York City didn't go with this guy. No, they aren't. So for a guy complaining about the rich, and I'm here for you, the everyday people, the everyday people weren't the ones that got him elected. No, it's the newer residents of New York that got him elected, to be honest. Here's Scott Jennings, also on that same CNN panel with Van Jay Jones last night, his reaction to the speech. He went after everybody that he thinks is a problem. People who own things, people who have businesses. He said an interesting quote, no problem too large for government to solve. Or too small, important. And so when you think of the world that way, that every problem, no matter how small or how large, is something for government to do, let me just decipher this for you. Hey guys, Lady Luck here. Are you going on any road trips this summer? I know I'm going to be going on a bunch of road trips. And being that I'm going to be passenger princess, I love playing on SpinQuest.com. SpinQuest has all of my favorite slot games, live blackjack, live craps. Head on over to SpinQuest right now and get yourself a $30 coin pack for just $10.00. SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit spinquest.com for more details. These days, it's getting harder and harder to trust what you're seeing. Who made it? Is it real?

But with iHeart, everything you hear is guaranteed human. That's why 78% of listeners trust their favorite radio hosts product recommendations. And if you own or manage a business here or need to drive sales, that trust goes a long way in creating your future customers. Make iHeart media a part of your 2026 plan today. Call 844-844-I-Hart. Again, that's 844-844-I-Hart. Tax increases as far as the eye can see, which means the people who need to provide jobs to the young people that you say need jobs are going to flee as quickly as they possibly can. I think this was a divisive speech, and he clearly sees the world in terms of the people who are oppressing you and the oppressed. And he said, the oppressed are now in City Hall. Can we just take a minute, Greg, and think about this. And I hope people are realizing this today because you brought it up earlier. Aren't we grateful that we live in the state of Utah? Oh, man, I'll take this state. You know, we sometimes get mad at our rhinos and we get mad at those that seem a little too moderate, maybe leftist. Man, watching what's going on. And you've got a homicidal attorney general, Virginia. You've got a communist that as soon as he won, he turned on all of you. He just started getting mean right away that night. By the way, advanced degrees, those with advanced degrees, 57% of them voted for Zohran Mamdani. Those with no high school degree at all, 49% voted for, and then high school graduates, 47% voted for Andrew Cuomo. Some college, 48. Anyway, you can see the divide. It is an economic divide. It's almost a caste system divide of with and without, you know, those that have and those that have not. And those that... that are already very comfortable in their life voted in droves for Zohran Mamdani. And I think their approach is, Greg, because they've been taught at the elite schools where socialism and communists are taught every day feel, well, communism and socialists may have failed in the past, but it's never been done right. And we will do it right here in America and make it work. And I think that's the approach that they're thinking about. Kind of scary. All right, still to come. Next on the Rod and Greg show on this Wingman Wednesday, Harriman High School wants a greenhouse. What's it going to cost you? We'll talk about that. Coming up next right here on The Rod and Greg Show and Utah's Talk Radio 1059, KNRS. Carolyn Fippin. Yes. You know Carolyn, right? I do. I know her well. A really nice lady, Carolyn. She always talks about her greenhouse. Apparently she has a greenhouse that she just adores, right? I've never seen it. In her backyard. You've seen it, right? I wonder if she's paid $700,000 for it. I'm going to go ahead and stick my neck out on this and say no. Not even close. Well, that's why people are so upset about the story that we saw the other day in the Jim Jordan School District. The school board there has approved a bid of $700,000 for a greenhouse at Harriman High School. Now, I'm not sure what they're doing in that greenhouse. But $700,000 seems like a lot of money. The Versailles of Greenhouses. This must be one heck of a heck of a heck of a green house. What's it the size of? A high school itself. It could be. Well, a lot of people are raising questions about this, including our next guest. His name is Sean Mathis. He's a concerned parent. I had a chance to talk to him a short time ago and asked him about how he learned of this and what was his reaction. Yes, I don't know when I got started, but I learned about it at the last board meeting.

It came up. They're just doing their normal bid approvals. And I watched almost every board meeting have gotten involved in the school. And when this came up, I was just dismayed that they were even considering $700,000, 300 square foot greenhouse. It became more dismayed as people were defending it. We at least had one school board member that said, and he just said, something is wrong here. I don't know how we could even consider listening to people who propose these. It's just outrageously crazy. And that was my feelings. It was crazy. The board members who spoke in favor of this wacky idea, Sean, how were they defending it? What were they saying? Do you recall? One of them mentioned that they were going to have a faucet in there with hot water. You have a hot water heater. This would be good for students. They really didn't have a defense against it, though, mostly because in my opinion it's indefensible. I don't know how you can defend it. What are other people saying who've heard of this, and you maybe have spoken to as well? Sean, what are they saying about it? They're equally dismayed. They just can't fathom a $700,000 greenhouse. I was meeting with the construction company. They do large development just a day ago. And I just brought this up to them in part of our conversation. And they just laughed. They couldn't believe anybody would spend this much money. And I get the same response from all my neighbors, everyone I talked to. Just, is this how our tax money is being used? Is this how little regard they have for our funds? Well, I think most people have been in a greenhouse, Sean. I mean, I don't think it costs $700,000 to build one. What are they putting in this greenhouse that makes it so darn special and so darn expensive? Nothing that I can tell. It's a plastic greenhouse with a concrete foundation. I went over to a high school and saw one that's similar that they built at Copper Hills High School a few years back. There's nothing in it. It's just a greenhouse. We've talked to others and they just, we talked to one individual here that he owned a huge greenhouse, 30,000 square foot greenhouse. And he paid $300,000 for 30,000 square foot greenhouse. That's a commercial greenhouse. We're building a 1,300 square foot greenhouse at a high school.

There's nothing they can do to defend it, other than they have, I guess, free tax money. Are there rules that say, Sean, are you aware that they have to spend this much money in the greenhouse, that they have to take the highest bidder? I mean, I would think you always want to look for the best bidder or the lowest bidder, not the highest bidder, but are their hands tied by, well, they have to do this. Are you hearing that from them at all? I'm not hearing that their hands are tied. They are saying that this was the lowest bidder. The only thing I can conclude is that JSD, the district, has a sign on their door that says we'll pay anything bid high. No, go ahead, John. You had more to say. No, that's what they're telling us is that this was a competitive bid and just go with it. Now, one thing I've heard a district official say, I think it was in the Channel 2 report, that there were some things that they had to do, infrastructure steps they had to make, and that drove up the cost. How much infrastructure do you need in a greenhouse? I'm not aware of much. Here's what they said in the board meeting. They talked about a concrete foundation, a fire alarm, and an intercom system. Oh, and they had a tie to the sewer system out in the road. That was their big infrastructure. Wow, wow. Where do you go from here with this, Sean? I mean, is there anything you can do about it, or are you asking the board to take a second look at this? Where do you go from here? My understanding is that it can be rescinded. It's early enough now that they can undo it, but it would take a vote from the board. So I'm hoping individuals will let them know that this isn't how we want our tax funds spent. We expect more responsible spending and to undo what they've already started doing. You know, thank you, Sean Mathis, a concerned parent about the amount of money being spent on a greenhouse. We just held municipal elections yesterday in this state, Greg, and really around the country. And one thing that I think we do when we vote is we're saying to those individuals who we vote for, we trust you with using common sense and spending our tax dollars in a reasonable way. Yeah. Correct? Yeah. Correct? So explain the common sense associated with $700,000 for a greenhouse. This is what this shows for. I don't think anybody knows that. I don't think it's defensible. In fact, didn't we try to get some... We have at least two members of this Jim Jordan School Board that didn't vote for this. Yes. But we're unwilling to come on the show. And certainly those that voted for it aren't willing to come on the show. And so I think they think if they just stay quiet, this thing's going to blow over and no one's going to find out. I don't think it's defensible. I think it's... Again, I've seen... the costs and comparisons of greenhouses you can buy that look quite fetching. They look very beautiful. I don't know what you want these kids to do. You can have the kids learn how to build it. I like that idea. They're probably a trade school angle in the whole thing. You could have the kid, get some labor out of these kids to help build it and make it nice. And it probably costs you 50K, not 700K. Well, Sean shared with him some information, Greg. He was talking to a builder, a typical elementary school.

cost about $400 a square foot to build. Which is a lot. He broke this down. He broke this down. It's closer down to $5.50 per square foot. For this greenhouse. Yeah. And the problem is the greenhouse, you know, it doesn't have, anyway. It's not constructed the same way. It's building materials are different. And I would argue that a, you know, elementary schools building materials are more expensive than a greenhouse. Well, and we should ask Carolyn Phippen if she'd like a $700,000 greenhouse. I'm sure. I bet she would. Yeah. Why not? All right. More coming up, Wingman Wednesday. Rod and Greg, Talk Radio, 1059, KNRS. Greg, at a recent Salt Lake County Council meeting, members were attacked for their vote to close county run, government-run, daycare centers. That grassroots, that's just, all that is is astroturf. That isn't real grassroots. And look. You can't complain that they are trying to propose, what, a 20% property tax increase? Well, that's what the mayor would like to do. At the same time, they're trying to cut government, cut, cut it. You can't complain about both. You can't say, how dare you stop spending? How dare you want to raise taxes? What I think you're seeing is there are at least some, their attempt to. to not need a 20% tax increase. What do people want? And these crowds that show up, they did this down in Provo over, you know, over another leftist issue. I'm telling you, this is not real grassroots. This is AstroTurf. Well, I had a chance to talk with a member of the county council, Amy Winder Newton, about this issue. She's in favor of this. And I asked her why this issue and why these cuts to the county are so important. of all, I will say we didn't really know we were in the daycare business. It was kind of in the parks and rec budget. So it wasn't something that was that I realized we were in the business of up until recently. But let me kind of take a step backwards and tell you why this is so important. We talked before about how Mayor Jenny Wilson proposed a 20% tax increase on Salt Lake County residents. Yes. So we've got nine council members, five of them are Republicans for a Democrat. And the Republicans have been really determined to find cuts and figure out how do we streamline government? How do we rein in spending? How do we make sure that taxpayer dollars are as efficient as possible? And we've got different buckets of money at the county. So basically you've got tourism taxes that fund the nice to have like some of the culture and arts, parks and rec and like the convention centers to bring in tourists. But then we have our general fund that's funded by property taxes and sales tax. And that is the fund that we have to fund public safety, our jail, prosecution. We have elections. We have like our statutory duties in that fund. And by cutting this $2 million subsidy for these daycares, that saves taxpayer money on property taxes. And so for us, we're looking at this going, this is a no-brainer, but I'll tell you what, Rod.

Hey everybody, Lady Luck here, and we're celebrating America's 250th birthday. Now, all summer long, I'm going to be celebrating by playing on SpinQuest.com, which is an American-owned social casino. It obviously features over a thousand slot games and live blackjack, live craps, live bubble craps. Head on over to SpinQuest.com. Get yourself a $30 coin pack for just $10.00. SpendQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit SpenQuest.com for more details. These days, it's getting harder and harder to trust what you're seeing. Who made it? Is it real? But with iHeart, everything you hear is guaranteed human. That's why 78% of listeners trust their favorite radio hosts product recommendations. And if you own or manage a business here or need to drive sales, that trust goes a long way in creating your future customers. Make iHeartMedia a part of your 2026 plan today. Visit iHeartadvertising.com. Again, that's iHeartadvertising.com. People get really angry when you've given them something and then you take it away. And so we've had the public come out and say, don't take away our daycares. And keep in mind, these aren't even daycares for necessarily low-income families. We've got any income that's using these daycares, half price of what the private sector is charging. And they've been doing it for years. And so the council has been making the hard decision. The Republicans stood together, said, no, we are not going to subsidize $2 million of daycares for people. So many people throughout the valley who are having a hard time making ends meet and paying for their own daycare or giving up an income to stay at home with a child or whatever it is. And that is not an appropriate way to use these property tax funds. Are the prices at the county charges for daycare competitive with private daycare centers or people get in the deal through the county run facilities? Do you know, Amy? I do know. And that's why there's a $2 million subsidy is because they're not. They're about half price of what you would pay through the private sector. So not only are we using tax money in an inefficient, ineffective way, but we are competing with the private sector. We've got commercial childcare facilities that have spaces available right now in Salt Lake County. And they're worried about getting enough spots filled so that they can stay in business. Government should not be competing with these. And so we're trying to transition these families and doing the best that we can. We know it's hard when you have to make a change like this. But I feel in my soul, this is not the role of government. This is not a business the county should be involved in. And we have to keep those property taxes as low as possible. Are there other areas in the county budget that could be cut, Amy, to save these daycare centers? Well, we're looking at all cuts. So one of the other things that we cut yesterday was a senior center that's only 1.8 miles away from another senior center and is currently vacant waiting to be renovated. We got looking at it and we said, you know what, this is another place we can save $400,000 a year in our general fund.

plus another $6 to $7 million in ongoing funds that we can use for deferred maintenance at other senior centers. And so that was another hard cut we made. That was the Republican standing up. And I'll tell you, Rod, the hard thing about this is we have lots of people reaching out to us about, don't cut my daycares, and I'm sure we'll have the same with the senior center. We're not getting very many people telling us. Yes, we need you to take hard looks at the budget and do this to help us. And so if anybody has comments, we'd love to hear him. You can email the whole council at council webX at salt lake county.gov. But we want to hear from people because we know it's not just a few people who are looking for government to subsidize their everyday activities. We have people who care about keeping those property taxes as well as possible. I know this probably, I'm surprised if this question hasn't come up, Amy, that the mayor has proposed her budget. I think it's about a 20% tax increase. And her staff, some members of her staff are very well paid and they're saying, well, if you're going to cut, take a look at that. I mean, that question probably has come up and how do you respond to that, Amy? You know what? That's a hard question. We have three deputy mayors. Now, if I was the mayor, I probably wouldn't make three people with the title of deputy mayor, but that's what she's chosen to do. But I will tell you this, Rod, these three people are fantastic assets to the county, and they all have large portfolios. So they're not just advisors to the mayor. They're actually managing large portfolios of all of our agencies and departments. And so I would, that one I've had a hard time. wanting to look at cutting because we need these people. I mean, you've got to have, you know, director level management to be able to ensure everything else is run efficiently. And so that one isn't where I'm looking for cuts as much on those three positions, but I can understand people's frustration. When they hear deputy mayor, they're just assuming that their assistance to the mayor, they don't recognize that they're actually managing large portfolios and overseeing a lot of budgetary. funding so i can see that that's a concern amy you we are we are looking at cutting other positions though you should know that you know in the mayor's proposed budget we've already cut um dozens of positions that have been proposed and will continue to do so over the next few weeks you've heard from a lot of angry people in the daycare issue but you say there are many out there who would go along with what you're saying about the government shouldn't be involved in daycare centers what do they need to do does the council need to hear from them what are you recommending amy We do need to hear from them. Our next council meeting will we'll be discussing the budget is Tuesday, November 18th at 10 a.m. at the Salt Lake County Government Center. They can also email the full council. It's both the Democrats and Republicans on the council at that council, WebEx. at Salt Lake County.gov email address that I gave earlier. On our newsmaker line, our conversation with Amy Winder-Newton. She is a member of the Salt Lake County Council talking about government-funded, government-run daycare centers, Greg. Should they be in that business? No, that's easy.

Now, and again, I think that there is greater scrutiny on this county for the taxes they want to increase property taxes and where they need to go cut, go cut. And again, when the councilman talks about these positions that need to be filled, you got no complaint for me. I get it. But at $250,000 a year or the amount, when you're outpacing the public sector and private sector, it's too much. It just frankly is. So I think that I think the FTEs are a real thing, but I think that FTEs traditionally have not been, you get great benefits, but you're lower than the private sector. And when you're outpacing and you're taking away from the private sector because you're so. Your salaries are so high. That's a bad sign. That is. All right. We'll get your reaction to that and also the $700,000. I'm thinking of the toilet seat. Remember that? Remember that? Remember that years ago? Yeah, and they used to have the $1,000 hammers. Yeah, $1,000. This one reminds me of a $700,000 greenhouse. That's it. Okay. I'm hoping we, I think we have some good, astute, smart. listeners that have some talkback messages for us. Yeah, we'll get the phone calls coming on on that. It's the Wingman Wednesday edition of The Rod and Greg Show on Talk Radio 1059 KNRS. No one's going to listen to me. I know. I don't have the, I don't have the luxury of opinion. I know how to do this. You don't want to be housing czars. All these people promising people cheap houses. You can't do it. You don't want government to do it. Their houses are terrible. What government has ever provided housing that you think you'd ever want to live in? None. None. There's a way. there is a way, a free market way, a conservative way. But I can't get anyone to do it. It drives me crazy. Has anyone ever called you a humble? I'm very humble. Just ask me. I just wondered. I just tell you, I know it. I know the answer. It's not an opinion. And I hear all these politicians and everyone tell you, where you get your affordable housing. You're not going to artificially create anything of it. You start giving people money for houses. The inflationary factor, those houses go up by the exact amount of money government hands them. It's not going to work that way. Look what the American Rescue Plan did to this country. That was Biden's plan. It fueled inflation. and everybody's complaining about inflation, it takes time to bring this down. It is coming down. Is it as low as we'd like to get it? Pretty darn close, but it's going to take some time. We're still dealing with the American Rescue Plan. And that's what it's all about, folks. And it is unacceptable that we have lost a decade, young people have lost a decade in terms of average age to purchase a home in America. That is the American dream. That is unacceptable. But the way to fix it, it's not going to happen tomorrow. It's not going to happen fast. There is a free market way to make this happen, especially here in Utah. We have so much potential for this, but it takes a plan and it takes a while for that to happen.

You got to do it. Yeah. I don't hear it. And I'm not king for a day, so I can't make it happen. But I know. I know how to do it. None of these politicians do. Number out today. The average age of the first time home in this country is now at 40 years old. Yeah. And think about that. 40 years old. So where your kids being born and where are they being raised when you can't afford a home? I was 24 when I first purchased my first home. I was 24. I was 29. Were you 29? I was 20. But it's gone up. Age 40 now. Can you think about that, waiting until you're 40 years old to have your first home? Yeah, and for me at 29, I was the first in generations to own my own home. My grandmother didn't own, my mother never owned a home. My grandmother didn't. You know, it's, I was proud at 29 to be able to do it. I lived in a state in Utah and a country in America where not having that, I was able to do it. My kids in their 20s right now. Good luck. And that is, that is, but I don't, it's not a Zohran Mamdani, I'm going to hand it to you. and make government pay for a thing. But there is a free market solution just staring us in the face. We just don't do it. Come on. Socialism is a way to go. All right. When we come back, we'll get to your phone calls. We'll talk about the $700,000 greenhouse and the county daycare centers. That's all coming up. Your calls, your comments next. I'm just laughing. Why? Because all these people are just so, I just think it's so funny that people are so, like, there's a lot of hand wringing and pearl clutching over this election last night. I'm just seeing it online. I'm like, guys just chill out. I mean, these were tough states. These were not Republican bastions. I mean, I just think it's what the worst thing that everyone could do. And don't be like politicians. Politicians do two things. I used to be a politician, but I try to resist these two things. They can either do nothing or they can overreact, okay? Mm-hmm. Don't overreact. Don't do nothing. I mean, let's keep the, let's keep the dream alive. Let's keep working hard. Let's stay involved, civically engaged, all that. But don't overreact. I mean, come on. These races were never ours. We were excited that we were in the, we thought we were in the game. But I, look, I think the Democrats. They have caused a lot of chaos. I think they certainly have slowed down this president's economic recovery with shutting down the government. It's going to continue to weigh this economy down as the government shutdown, especially air flight and things like that. And I think the Democrats want that. I think that's their best case against. You know what I'm so happy about? What? Every problem we have in this country. And we've got a lot of challenges, right? Yep. Are about to be solved. Hey everybody, Lady Luck here, and we're celebrating America's 250th birthday. Now, all summer long, I'm going to be celebrating by playing on SpinQuest.com, which is an American-owned social casino. It obviously features over a thousand slot games and live blackjack, live craps, live bubble craps. Head on over to SpinQuest.com. Get yourself a $30 coin pack for just 10 bucks.

SpendQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit SpenQuest.com for more details. These days, it's getting harder and harder to trust what you're seeing. Who made it? Is it real? But with Eyeheart, everything you hear is guaranteed human. That's why 78% of listeners trust their favorite radio hosts product recommendations. And if you own or manage a business here or need to drive sales, that trust goes a long way in creating your future customers. Make iHeartMedia a part of your 2026 plan today. Visit iHeartadvertising.com. Again, that's iHeartadvertising.com. Ooh, do you tell? Government. You heard Zohran Mamdani last night. Government said there's no problem, either too big or too small, that government cannot solve. He did say that. He did say that. He does believe that. I don't have any worries anymore because government's going to take care of it. And he's speaking from the mayor's office, man. I mean, he's not even like a, he's not even speaking from the state of New York. He thinks from the governor's office or the mayor's office, there is no problem big enough that the city's government cannot take on and nothing small enough in your life that they can't dive into and satisfy, to their satisfaction, by the way. Yeah, that's true. To their satisfaction. Could they solve your golf game? No. No, that's not. First off. That's not on their government purview. I have grooved into a nice bogey golf life that I'm not really. That you're happy with. Yeah, I'm not really looking. I'm not working on the game per se. I'm just, I'm kind of a bogey golfer. I'm happy. You're happy that. All right. Two issues that we talked about in the last hour. Didn't get your reaction, but we want it now. First of all, we have the story in Harriman. Harriman High School. The Jim Jordan School District has moved forward now and approved the construction of a $700,000 greenhouse. Now, I bet we have a lot of listeners, Greg, who have a greenhouse. You know, and they like to tinker in the greenhouse. So I wonder how much their greenhouse cost them. Now, it's not for a high school. It's, you know, for a family. But, you know, we want to get your thoughts on the $700,000 greenhouse. The other story we talked about is the Salt Lake County Council. The county council right now is trying to put a budget together. Mayor Jenny Wilson, Comrade Wilson, has come out and said she needs a 20% increase. She has three or four deputies who each make well into the $200,000 range when it comes to their salary. Okay. Now, the county apparently has found, as Amy Winder Newton mentioned in our last half hour, that in the county's recreation budget is money to support county-run daycare centers. When they found out that issue and they're trying to cut the budget, they said, guess what? We're no longer going to pay for them. You know, there's private enterprise. Yeah, there are private companies that do daycare centers. So, you know, and of course all those people who use the daycare centers up in arms flooding council meetings trying to convey. And the media is there getting, you know, telling all these sad stories, but never telling the truth about what the county is trying to do. And the fact that the county should not be in the business of providing daycare to your children.

One of the observations I thought was very important is that these members of the council weren't even aware they were necessarily in the daycare business, which again means that that is money that's being spent hand over fist without being safeguarded or watched. And so that's what they're doing. They're doing that. And, you know, again, I go back. You can't, we cannot complain that we do not want to have our property taxes. The Salt Lake County. portion of our property tax raised 20% and not expect them to start going line by line and finding the cost that are not essential government services is a proper role of government. That is what they should be doing and I congratulate them and thank them for going through this budget to get it right because just pay for everything and tax more when you run out of money. That's not what we in Utah should be used to. That is not our standard. Yeah. So we want to get your thoughts on this tonight. 888-5708010. 888-57080-10 on your cell phone, dial pound 250 and say, hey, Rod, leave us coming on our talkback line. Those of you who own a greenhouse, I'd like to know how much you paid for it. The Gilded Greenhouse. What is the Gilded Greenhouse going rate? $700,000 is that the going rate? Apparently it is for Harriman High School. And of course, should the government be involved in daycare centers? Because that's what County, Salt Lake County is involved in right now. And the council is saying, no. And here's the thing. I think school districts have daycare centers. They do. I think they have pre-K. I have pre-kindergarten centers. So you have school districts that have them already. To what degree? I don't know, but I do know they exist. But now you have county-run ones in addition to the government-run ones that are within a school district? I don't like government competing against the private sector. No, it should. And that's exactly what's going on here. Yep. You know, and I think, you know. No, I mean, it's that easy. You shouldn't be involved in it. That is a private enterprise, and you should let the private sector take care of it. Yes, I agree. It's, you know, kids won't know this. Kids won't know the phone book test. If you open up the phone book and you can find it in the phone book as a company or a business, then government shouldn't do it. Yeah. Well, that's, that's, so open up the phone book. Yeah. They're opening up. Yellow pages. Not the white pages. Are there still yellow pages? No, I don't think there are. But if you open up the yellow pages, boy, you're dating yourself anymore. Open up the yellow pages. You're looking for something. You see it in the phone book. Go to it. Then don't. Then government doesn't need it. There you go. It's right there. 888 5708010. On your cell phone, dial pound 250 and say, hey, Ron, or on your talkback line. Just download the I heart radio app. Look for KNS. And you can leave us a message. I think we've got a couple of talkback. Comments. Fingers crossed, they have worked, but this, let's hear what they're having to say tonight. No, it's not working again. You played them at the commercial break. Oh, Erie's good. Erie, play those two, if you would, please.

Hey, Rod and Greg, I'm in the process of getting bids for a greenhouse, and it's going to be exceptionally nice. It's more of a decoration than anything, but I can tell you what, I'll accept that $700,000 bid, and I guarantee you all pocket, $600K off of it. And two, the guy that was in Captain Phillips, he didn't get elected mayor of Minneapolis. That's a good thing. that's true yes you know and i did i did take note of that i was convinced he was going to win and he didn't win and i that is good that is yeah have you seen what happened in seattle because there was another socialist on the ballot i think the the incumbent mayor won there i believe but that may have been another blow to the socialist movement man if you told me yesterday that minneapolis would be our shining star of sanity i would not have that's not the jurisdiction i would have picked but i'm glad that they didn't do because that guy That was a really poorly run campaign, or at least I think he alienated a lot of people from Minneapolis that aren't Somalian. And so I, anyway, you know, so. All right, here's another comment from our talkback line. Aren't Harriman schools part of the Salt Lake County school system? Shouldn't we be voting on something like that? Once again, another Taj Mahal addition to a school that probably is affording some people, some kickback. It is part of the Jim Jordan School District. So it's not sold like City or County. Which has a duly elected board members who vote on these things. And I don't know if they're pursuing a tax increase for the school district or not. But the 700,000 for the greenhouse is our two talkback said there's a ton of money that's not, you can't really. It's hard to, it's hard to justify. And then the daycare. No, wait, but the Jim Jordan School District, not Salt Lake County, is in charge of that. But they're accountable, too. They're public servants. Here's a talkback comment on the daycare issue. Hey, Rod and Greg. Happy Wednesday. Just about the thing about daycare and if the government should be involved, I think generally our society needs the parents much more involved and the government much less involved. Amen to that. Thank you, thank you. These leftist social engineers, they want from cradle to grave to start steering people in mass. And by the way, even if they try to tell you it's because they're so generous and they care so much, it's really to create the caste system they've missed for so long. They really don't like the American way of... self liberty you know self freedom of self determination upward mobility leaving the class in which you were born in and be able to do more uh you rise and fall by the equal opportunity not equal outcome the social the leftists don't want any of that they want you born and they want you to live and pass away in a station in life

and don't get out of your lane. Yeah. It's much easier to compel the population that way, and that's what they want. Yeah. That's why they want to do it. That is. All right. More of your calls, more your talk back comments coming up on the Rod and Greg show and Utah's Talk Radio 105-9, KNRS. On the Rod and Greg show about, first of all, the county's decision to get out of the daycare business. Good. Yes. The county is preparing to vote on that. Now, they've heard from a lot of people who are very opposed to this. And we had councilwoman Amy Winder-Newton on a short time ago said the council needs to hear from people who agree with us. And my guess is, Greg, there are a lot of people who agree with them. Yes, especially when they're trying to trim that budget so they don't have to raise our taxes 20%. We can't see that 20% increase. And how are we going to make that argument that we don't want our taxes raised if there's not, they don't start cutting that budget. Cut the cut. There's fat in that budget. You know it. And this is an example. And I think everybody that showed up and was, you know, upset. It's the same, you know, AstroTurf. It's not even real grassroots. These are people that are paid protesters. They show up all the time to congressional town hall meetings. They showed up down in Provo over ICE, you know, at the Utah County Council meeting. Like everybody's worried about, you know, illegals being, you know, arrested for breaking the law. They made that look like it was some kind of, you know, terrible thing that was happening. Anyway, and this is just another example of it. These are paid protesters. The left does it. And I think anyone that listens to this program would want to see less spending and lower taxes. Yeah, tax money in the county, Greg, according to Amy Winder Newton, serving 271 kids. That's what those daycare centers are now serving. 271 kids. How much? 271. Yeah, about what was the number? I think it's $2 million. Yeah. Something like that. Yeah. Well, I tell you, just a lot of greenhouses in that daycare center. I think they got, I think they went and they combined them. They went and got greenhouses and daycares. Put them all together. Get out of you. There you go. Jeez. I wonder if they're growing something in that greenhouse. You and I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. 700 grand. You know, mentally, they can say it's revenue generating, but it's not. You know it's not. Well, maybe it is. You just don't know what they're growing. I liked your idea, okay? There are kids, if you want to learn, trade schools, their enrollment is just bursting at the seams. Kids have realized a degree in the mating habits of a Tici fly are not going to get them a job. The sociology degree is not crushing it. What you need is a skill. So why not let the kids at Harriman High and maybe the Jim Jordan School District build that greenhouse? 100%.

I mean, what are you going to do, build a fake house, tear it down while you're paying someone through the nose to build this gilded greenhouse? Give me a break. No, give them the materials and say, you know, with supervision, teach them how to, I couldn't do it, but I bet there are a lot of kids that would like to learn. I'm telling you, there's trade schools that can do it. That is the way. That would be a smart way, and at least it would never cost what they're going to pay. $700,000. It will be less, and you would be delivering education at the same time you're building your greenhouse. Yeah. Does every school have a greenhouse? Is that like a thing? I don't think so. I don't know. I bet it didn't cost $700,000. No. Now, I love the school district's response on this one, Greg. Well, there are other projects like this throughout the state. Yeah, well, we don't like those either. Just bring those up, too. We'll complain about those as well. We're not D.C. out here. It's called transparency, folks. Let the public know. Absolutely. Yeah. You know, when I was building back way, way back when, a guy I had doing concrete, he was a great concrete guy. And I was calling him to do a job. And he's like, yeah, I'm out of the private sector. I'm not doing commercial stuff. I'm not doing concrete. I said, why? He's like, I got this contract with the school district. I just do these sheds. I just pour the concrete pad. They put the shed over it. I just put the pad, but it's more money than I get doing commercial jobs. I'm like, wow. Okay, so he'd stop doing private. Stop taking bids. Stop doing that because he had a sweetheart deal with the school district just pouring pads that they put their, you know, they'd put their lawnmowers and stuff on, but they'd put the shed on, but he just poured the pad. And he didn't have to work doing other stuff because he's making a mint doing this. And that was a while ago. You know, this whole thing, Greg, I think the greenhouse, the cost of the greenhouse leads me to a bone I've had to pick for a long time, the amount of money that we spend on building new schools. Yes. And it's disproportionate. It is because we use an income tax for the in-class instruction, teacher salaries, a curriculum, everything else. But the schools themselves are... built and financed by your property tax. And that's where you see the property tax, you go to places where there's high property tax or high valuations. You see these schools that are ridiculously beautiful. People that are from out of state who probably have more money per student being spent on a student in other states, come to Utah, see these schools and think, wow, you must spend more than anyone in America. Because look at these schools. We've never seen schools like this before. And it's, it's because it's. The disconnect is it's property tax that pays for the construction of those schools. They bond for it. And then it's your income tax that pays for the school in school instruction. Yeah. And that's equalized. I mean, that's kind of the weighted pupil unit. So whether you live in Park City or Rose Park, the amount per pupil's the same. But property tax is not the same in these different jurisdictions. You know, when I hear some schools are doing, Greg, and I do like this idea. I think it's, I know of one or two now, junior high schools out in Davis County, in the west side of Davis County. where the city, I don't know if they pay or help pay for it, use the school as a community center. So all the Saturday morning junior jazz basketball and all that is now being used by those schools so they don't just sit there idle from Friday until the next Monday. They're actually, and I like that cooperative effort that's being made between communities and their schools. We've seen some good examples of that. You have to just make sure that you're never making the community center at a time.

for adults where students would be there though where you just don't cross-pollinate the adults around the kids at the same at the school but schools certainly should be a community center and they should be used for those I ran a bill years ago where you know there was it was tough to get football fields or foot fields for different sports and and and some districts were rest less willing to offer up their schools for practices and things. And so we made, there's a law now that says it is a public, it's public and you have a right to it. You can use it. You can, you can reserve that. All right. More of your calls coming up. More of your talkback comments as well on the Rod and Greg show. It is the Wingman Wednesday edition on Talk Radio. 1059, KNRS. about a $700,000 greenhouse at Harriman High School, and then about Salt Lake County, which is deciding to cut it to get out of the daycare center business, shouldn't be there to begin with, to save the county about $200 or $2 million. Let's go to the phones and get your reaction to what's going on tonight, Greg. Yeah, let's go to Barry, who's in Draper. Thank you for holding Barry. Welcome to the Rod and Greg Show. Hey everybody, Lady Luck here, and we're celebrating America's 250th birthday. Now, all summer long, I'm going to be celebrating by playing on SpinQuest.com, which is an American-owned social casino. It obviously features over a thousand slot games and live blackjack, live craps, live bubble craps. Head on over to SpinQuest.com. Get yourself a $30 coin pack for just 10 bucks. SpendQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit SpenQuest.com for more details. These days, it's getting harder and harder to trust what you're seeing. Who made it? Is it real? But with iHeart, everything you hear is guaranteed human. That's why 78% of listeners trust their favorite radio hosts product recommendations. And if you own or manage a business here or need to drive sales, that trust goes a long way in creating your future customers. Make iHeartMedia a part of your 2026 plan today. Visit iHeartadvertising.com. Again, that's iHeartadvertising.com. Thank you. My comment is really for you, Greg. This $700,000 greenhouse approved by the Jim Jordan School Board, is not unique to that school board. Perhaps you could inform the public, Greg, about your experience when you're in the legislature. We're dealing with that school board and how they're voting and their, what I'm going to call malfeasance, led to the creation of the Canyon's school district. Barry, you have good institutional memory, sir. You are a citizen soldier. Yeah, we were as, Draper City, had as many residents as Riverton as a city. They had a high school, two middle schools, Harriman High School at that time. This is over, how long ago would it be 15 years ago or more?

I just finished their $100 million, Harriman High School, which was a number we had never seen in the construction of a school ever. While on where we lived, we were seeing they had land, but there wasn't a single school to be found, a high school, middle school, anything like that. You had to bus kids further away, and you just kept seeing the schools that were being built on the west part of Salt Lake County, you saw Southwest part, more extravagant and more extravagant as you go. uh something had to be done the school district was split first split in a hundred years and what what do you know we had uh schools built now i will say that that cania school district's a little little it was it wasn't a hundred million hairman school it was about a 65 i think a 65 million dollar school which was still a lot of money uh but it's it's even architecturally more significant than what you need a high school to be if you look at other schools uh that are built but we only we really only saw schools built in communities, like we have a middle school, like I said in a high school, because we had to get away from that Jim Jordan school district and the way they were making decisions. You know what they do in Texas, and I wish they'd think about it here, Greg. They don't have these large school districts. like you do here in the state of Utah. Every school district is an independent school district in the state of Texas. In Pittsburgh, where I grew up, the same thing. So your high school was your feet. It was everything, all the elementary schools feed to middle schools and junior highs that feed to a high school and that in and of itself was a school district. Yeah, yeah. And I, you know, I look at Davis County. I think there are what, eight or nine high schools in Davis School District now. Yeah. Something like that. I don't think they can be responsive to parents when you have that many schools and that many students. I don't think you can. When I was on the clock, Alpine just split. Yes. When I was on the clock, you know, I was arguing for smaller schools for the reasons you just shared that you're more responsive. your taxpayer dollars, you're going to be watching it a lot more clothes. It's hard in Draper to see how they're spending it out in harem and you have no idea. Yeah. And we didn't have a lot of, what we thought were a school district responsive to our needs. So I was very much an advocate of smaller schools, but they'd say, you know, you get an economy of scale when you have only one superintendent versus more, you're going to actually save money. No, I'm going to tell you. It hasn't turned out that way. there wasn't an economy of scale there. I think schools that are closer to the communities of which they serve are better run. Yeah, they're more responsive to. They really are. I-15, Kevin's there tonight, wants to weigh in on the Rod and Greg show. Hi, Kevin. How are you? I'm doing good. How are you guys? We're doing well. Thank you, Kevin. Your thoughts? I just want to say, my daughter went to Syracuse High School, and she took a construction class. In that construction class, they actually built houses for the year. And it gave those kids a trade that they could work on and also build a house, or at least do quite a bit of it. Why couldn't they do something like that for the greenhouse and teach these kids a skill, the ones that want to do something like that and give them that opportunity?

I think that is. It's your idea, Greg. That's right. I think it's a terrific idea. Sign these kids up. He is 100% right. You could give him a skill. They would learn out. Dude, I'm staring at eBay. I just said, okay, I want to buy a greenhouse on eBay. I'm staring at one. It's big. It says 300,000 square feet. You can pick this puppy up. I could bid. If I buy it now, I only have to bid. If I buy it now, I could buy it for $12,345. Now, it probably doesn't include the concrete pad. But it's quite fancy. It's got the big fans, the lights. It's got a lot. Design for growing cannabis, is it? Yeah. But I can, yeah, don't tell that part. Oh. No, but look, I see it as it's being constructed before. But, you know, they even list what the price per square foot is for the plumbing and stuff. And it's less than this. How much did they say? 500. 500. Yeah. Yeah. They're in numbers like $14. $14. Oh, wow. Really? Really. Wow. $6.50 a square foot for the foundations and the plumbing. Wow. Well, maybe Jim Jordan's going to show to go to eBay, how to look. Take a look. Or Amazon. Take a price one on Amazon. Be a secret shopper and see if you're getting the deal that you've been told you're getting. In Salt Lake City, we're talking with Rick tonight on the Rod and Greg show. Hi, Rick. Hey, how are you guys doing tonight? We're doing well. Thank you for asking. Yeah, it was more of a question of they shut down the greenhouse at Liberty Park this year, even though the parks department got a lot of money to fix them up. They're doing a good job there, even though they did shut down some parks around town. How come we can't just give that greenhouse to those students? Oh, I'd like, there's another good idea. It's a fully functioning, fully functioning, they got the funding. You know, right next to the aviary and everything else, why not hand it over instead of it just being dead land? I'm guessing it'd be cheaper than 700K. I bet that would. Well, you're in Mendenhall's mayor. Now, think about it. You want this greenhouse? It'll cost you a mill. Yeah, you know, because I've got to support my socialist programs that I have in the city. Yeah. I am waiting for her to invite Zohran Mamdani out here. I'm waiting for her to start her supermarkets. She's going to start her own supermarkets. You watch. She's going to see. This is the only thing. This is why Democrats can't have nice things. They hear from each other and they get these bad ideas. She's going to start telling us that we need government-run supermarkets here soon because she's going to see how popular he is, at least right now. Mem Donnie on MSNBC morning Joe this morning. He wants to immediately start $30 an hour minimum wage in New York City. That's next for Salt Lake City. See, I just think some of these things need to play out. They elected them. Yeah, deal with it, folks. Let's see how that plays out. I just think it fails. Like it did, where have they done this? They did it in California for a while. They had to pull back. $20 an hour, and they have lost thousands of jobs. They have. And they've gone to kiosks that they use instead of people because it's more affordable for them to stay open. Or they close out right. Yeah, we've got some talkback comments. And we'll get to those when we come back on the Wednesday edition. Wingman Wednesday edition of the Rod and Greg Show and Talk Radio 105.9, KNRS. Right now, we've been talking with you tonight about the greenhouse at Harriman High School with a cost of $700,000 and Salt Lake County making a decision to close its government-run daycare centers, 271 students or kids, at a cost of $2 million. The county says, we just found this out, and it's not going to continue any longer.

Well, good. I'm glad that they're taking a, you know, a positive. Yeah, line by line accounting of the budget. They're learning things about that budget and they're trying to cut. And I think that's what we would expect before they start asking to raise our taxes. Yep. Let's go to our talkback line and hear what some of our listeners having to say on one of these issues tonight. Why in the world would a school need a greenhouse if they didn't have like a botany program or something? And I doubt the school has, you know, a botany program that would need such a thing. But, yeah, let the students build it. Davis School District builds, I think, two or three houses a year that the construction students do. And they're to code and they sell them afterwards and pay for the program. Wow. Do the kids get a take on that? No, but they learn a skill. They learn a skill, I know. You don't feed them for a day. You just fed them for life because they get learned out of it. They have a skill. Do we have never talked about comment anyway? Yeah, all right. Here's another comment. Hey, Ron, a great quick note about schools and community centers. They currently are, and it's kind of a bit shady, in my opinion. So Utah County GOP held their convention at Sky Ridge High School in Lehigh to pay thousands of dollars to do so. The schools. exuberant prices to rent out their facilities and then they turn around and use that money on things that they are explicitly not allowed to spend taxpayer money on but they say well this is income from this from renting our spaces so it's a double-edged sword I wonder what they're spending the money on I don't know, but I don't like that because I thought that the law was that it's a public, it's public property. It's paid with public dollars and so it's, it is inherently a public facility where the people should have access to it. Yeah. Is there another one there, Ray? I think there is.

I just wanted to tell you that the Salt Lake County Arts have a $5 million surplus in their coffers. Wow. Is that from the Zaptax? That's a whistleblower we just heard. She totally busted them. $5 million surplus. Is that the Zaptax though? Zoo arts and parks, yes. Yeah. Yeah. You call Zaptax. Yeah. No, if there is a surplus, go there before you come after us. Yeah. Just, I mean, there's a, I think that's what's healthy about them having to, and hats off to you folks, because I will tell you that the reason you're seeing. line by line and you're seeing a careful accounting of that county budget is because of Mayor Jenny Wilson announcing this 20% property tax increase and people not being happy about it. And so the Republicans, we expect you to be fiscally conservative, they're going to go, they're doing that work. They do not want to have to turn to the taxpayer and say, we want to raise your taxes. So they're going to go stare at that budget. And that's the refiners fire that should be happening. And so I'm glad that they're going through that exercise. And I would just say they're going through it because they've heard from you. People are upset about that. We've heard you on the – our lines light up when we talk about these tax increases. People are frustrated. And then you hear callers like the last one that says there's a surplus in the arts account that you don't have to raise taxes. There's other ways that you can look to use money, taxpayer money, for its highest and best use. Yeah, yeah. All right. We'll talk about last night's election. That's all coming up. Hour number three of the riding break show.

All right, big night last night. The Democrats are singing joyfully, jumping up and down, doing everything they can to celebrate what they think was a big win last night. Of course, it was in the states of New York, Virginia, and New Jersey, not what we would call bastions of conservatism in any way. No. Again, it's so weird. It's like, just imagine if Democrats lost in Utah and everyone was saying, whoa, the Democrats lost in Utah. Oh, the Democrat Party's over. And they haven't really been doing all that well here to begin with. So I don't know that that's a big bellwether for the rest of the country. It's kind of the state. The race is held in. Yeah. Well, here's what the president had to say this morning about last night's vote. Last night, it was, you know, not expected to be a victory. It was very Democrat areas, but I don't think it was good for Republicans. I don't think it was good. I'm not sure it was good for anybody. But we had... An interesting evening, and we learned a lot, but I thought we'd have a discussion after the press leaves about what last night represented and what we should do about it and also about the shutdown and how that relates to last night. I think if you read the pollsters, the shutdown was a big factor, negative for the Republicans, and that was a big factor. And they say that I wasn't on the ballot was the biggest factor. But I don't know about that, but I was honored that they said that. Well, there is a certain magnetism about one Donald Trump. When he's on the ballot, things happen. And when he's not there, now the Republican Party, Greg, he won't be on the ballot next fall. He won't be there in 2028. So they've got some challenges. No, he does bring out the low propensity voter is someone that will find that we'll make the effort to vote if he's on the ballot. Yeah. And Republicans have to find that kind of appeal that he has always had. Yeah, well, let's talk to our good friend, Chase Jennings, about this. Chase is founder of Jennings Strategic Group, also a former spokesman for the Department of Homeland Security. Jase, what do you make of this? And what about Republicans? Can they learn to walk and chew gum when Donald Trump is not on the ballot? Well, you know, the president's so popular, right? So anytime any Democrat or Republican you lose your horse, it's going to be you got to have a replacement. I think JD, I think others can be that, Mark or Marco Rubio. But when he's not on the ballot, Republicans have to find a way to find some success. And we frankly haven't been able to do it. Hey everybody, Lady Luck here, and we're celebrating America's 250th birthday. Now, all summer long, I'm going to be celebrating by playing on SpinQuest.com, which is an American-owned social casino. It obviously features over a thousand slot games and live blackjack, live craps, live bubble craps. Head on over to SpinQuest.com. Get yourself a $30 coin pack for just $10.00.

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You know, let me go back for a second. You know, Virginia, the past five out of seven gubernatorials have gone Democrats. You've got two Democrat senators in the state. I would actually argue you could make an argument that Virginia is blue, you know. And so I don't know that, you know, when you talk about Winsome Earle-Sears, I've heard several people talk about her criticism of Donald Trump, which obviously is going to hurt her fundraising, which is not going to let her put her best foot forward. So there were several things, I think, came together to hurt her campaign. To your point about the Jay Jones portion of it where you've got a guy who literally is fantasizing about shooting the former Speaker of the House in Virginia over Hitler and Pol Pot, that guy, you know, escaped in one last night, which is, I think it sends a big message to everybody. Politics is a dirty game to play. You know, it's not really, we want to make it seem like it's this, you know, it's, to quote Phil Davidson, I don't know if you all remember him, but he had that crazy speech years ago, but. Politics is a winner-take-all. I mean, it's a power sport, you know, and politics is that way. And so when you have a state like Virginia, I would have loved for it to stay red. I know a lot of the polls would have made it difficult, but certainly I think that Attorney General's race is, that's a tough one. Chase, we know with the Democrats, the Trump derangement syndrome is so deep that they're willing to, I think, walk bare feet on hot coals just to beat the guy. Can we find the hot coals an issue like that to beat the Democrats back when it comes to 2026 and 28? Is there an issue, an individual? Is it socialism and communism taking over the country? What issue have they got to find to really walk on the hot coals for? That's a good point. I think you do have to find, unfortunately, in politics, you have to gin up support, you know, in some way. And so you've got, in Congress, I think that's where it's going to start. You've got it. The American people need to see some momentum for what they care about. People care about lawfare. They don't want the government coming after them, right? And so when you look at the investigation, the investigation that the House did into Biden, his cognitive decline. We were lied to. We know that. That's obvious. But now you've got Biden folks on the record saying those things. Well, use that. Put that in commercials. Put that out there, right? What's this Arctic frost where the government is literally going after? American citizens. That's a huge deal, right? And so when you have to break those down because people are like, oh, what does that stuff mean? Break it down, make it simple. The government is coming after you. We are standing in your way. Take Trump's message and put it towards something that can be successful. And Congress has to lead that, right? And so it could be, and this is what, you know, Congress, they need to get together, but they need to help each other fundraise. They need to, again, when I say Trump energy, don't sleep, don't eat. work every second of the day. That's literally how Trump accomplishes anything because the guy just, he's known for not sleeping. He's a constant energizer bunny. I think if the house can take that type of energy and go fundraise and go get the message out there, get on TV, get on radio, just today, starting today into next November, I think we could be surprised and actually pull something off. But if we keep doing the same as we've been, staying and neutral, I just don't see how we're going to get much momentum going into next November.

You know, sometimes I look at Biden's term in office, and I almost think it's like a campaign contribution to President Trump or any Republican that was going to run against him in the next election because he was such a abysmal failure. Is that going to be the case with Zohran Mamdani and these Democrats that won? Now they got a govern. It's easy to promise everyone everything and make it about Trump or something. But what's going to happen in the next four years? I don't know that it's going to make the Democrat Party stronger that these individuals got elected. Is there a lesson that's going to be learned or are they just or is this a movement that we're seeing and it's going to get more popular as they are in office? Hanging out at the pool is great. Relaxing and playing Vegas-style games on my phone at the same time. Drink in one hand and a blackjack in the other. It's all at SpinQuest. Over a thousand games including your favorite slots and table games. Be cool with this summer special. New players get $30 coin packs for 10 at SpinQuest.com. SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit spinquest.com for more details. These days, it's getting harder and harder to trust what you're seeing. Who made it? Is it real? But with iHeart, everything you hear is guaranteed human. That's why 78% of listeners trust their favorite radio hosts product recommendations. And if you own or manage a business here or need to drive sales, that trust goes a long way in creating your future customers. Make iHeartMedia a part of your 2026 plan today. Visit iHeartadvertising.com. Again, that's iHeartadvertising.com. I do think it's a movement. You know, there's an old state-by-the-bell episode where Zach runs against Jesse, and Jesse's obviously the more qualified candidate. But Zach promises no homework, and we're going to, you know, free food, that sort of thing. And so that's kind of what you're seeing in New York. Zohran Mamdani ran the easiest campaign in the world. I mean, the guy literally talking about, now he changed it yesterday. I don't know if y'all saw that. I mean, MSNNNNBC, but, you know, you're running on free, even asked about running on free groceries. And he says, well, I don't mean completely free groceries. You know, I do think, to your point, I think it's a movement. And I think you've got the AOCs, you've got the Bernies, and now you've got MAMDONI. I think the Democrats typically have an issue with socialism, because that's the way the far left leans. And they do think, and Zohran Mamdani tweeted this today, essentially saying that there's no... there's no problem that the government can't solve. There's no problem too big and no problem too small. So what that means is he wants government in every part of your life. If Republicans can take that message and really shove it down the throat of the American people and help them remember and realize that this is a free country, not a country that's dependent on the government, I think we can turn that message against them. The problem for even Democrats who are even moderate are going to be having to deal with the Mondanis of the world.

in the future because if you remember even Bernie, Bernie is extraordinarily popular across the country. He's one of the most popular politicians in the country, but the Democrats have blocked him over and over again because when you get in a general... it's just going to get destroyed because there's no way that people are not going to vote for these policies, right? Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who's looking at running for Senate, she may win, she may end up beating if she challenges Chuck Schumer, she may end up win. But the problem, to your point, is still the same. This is a movement, a socialistic movement, and until it's really known what these people are going to do and believe. I think there's going to be a lot more pain coming for cities like New York and anybody else who support socialism. Yeah, good point, Chase. Chase Jennings joining us on our newsmaker line. Greg, does socialism have a nationalistic appeal? I don't think it does. It doesn't. Very isolated areas. It will, like New York, like Seattle, like Portland, like Los Angeles, even, maybe even Chicago. It didn't in Minneapolis, which surprised both of us. Shocked me. But, you know, that's a good sign. Someone in Minneapolis is thinking it through a little better. But, yeah, no, those areas are pockets. That's not the heartland of this country. It's not the everyday working people. In fact, if you look down at the breakdown, it was not. mom what's Zohran Mamdani Zohran Mamdani his win he um zoolander he uh it's it's the elitist that voted for him yeah it's not the and women yeah it's not the people without a degree or a high school degree or the working class they didn't vote for him it was the elitist they came out in droves here's how brett hume talked about it on the show last night after the vote trump can turn out voters but they turn out for him And everything I think we've seen tonight suggests that when he's not on the ballot, even if he's trying to influence the ballots, if he's not on there himself, his voters are much less interested than they might otherwise be. So that if people with the Republican Party moves forward here under his leadership, they have to start thinking about what it's going to be like when he's gone. Yeah, what is it about him, Greg? Is that magnetism? I'm not sure, but he sure does turn people out. Yeah, he does. And look, I mean, look at his cabinet. He has people that. Democrats, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.. He's got Tulsi Gabbard. He's, he's really reached across. He's been, I think he's, he just gets everyday vote, everyday Americans who aren't necessarily card carrying registered Republicans. They like his authenticity, even his rough edges. speak to being authentic. And that's for people that don't like politics and don't trust politicians. That's true. All right. We've got more on the vote last night. More coming up this hour right here on the Rod and Greg show and Talk Radio 1059, KNS. Yeah, well. Yeah. How did that happen? Well, the Democrats never had much of a rudder in the water other than just attack Republicans. That's always been their gig. Yeah. So, you know, now the, now the younglings are after them. They want to just.

I think socialism is putting it lightly. I think they're communists. I think they are. Yeah, it depends on how you want to define socialism or communism, basically one and the same. Zohran Mamdani, the part, you know, his name was on a couple different parties ballots. It was Democrat, but also that working family party, which is affiliated as a communist party, not even a socialist party. And that's the one he said he voted for himself on it from that party. That would be a communist party, not a socialist party. So, you know. Socialist, communist, you know, potato, potato. Who's keeping score, really? A couple of interesting stories today. There's one out there. This is a headline, Greg, it reads, The kids have delivered Menbony, but the adults will be required to handle the results of his outcome. It's just a kid. Never run anything. How's he going to run the city? But I want to see, was it really the youth? Because I thought it was going to be the youth vote, but I don't know the cross tabs I've looked at it. Show that it was a youth vote. Among young women, 18 to what, 29? Yeah, women. 70. Girls. Who was suggested they shouldn't allow women to vote anymore. You know, it's all been downhill since then. I'm sorry, I did you. You know, gender gap on these candidates. JD Vance texted out today on his social media and his social media page. I think it's idiotic to overreact to a couple of elections in blue states, but here are a few thoughts. And he went on to say, Scott Pressler. Was he the guy in Pennsylvania who got Scott Presser? Put all the voter registration for Republicans. And TPUSA and a bunch of others have been working hard to register votes, right? On number three, we need to focus on the home front. The president has done a lot that has already paid off in lower interest rates and lower inflation, but we inherited a disaster from Joe Biden, and it does take time to take care of. And he adds, the infighting is stupid. I care about my fellow citizens, particularly young Americans, being able to afford a decent life. I care about inflation or immigration and our sovereignty, and I care about establishing peace overseas. So our resources can be focused at home. If you care about those things, let's work together. That sounds like JD Vance, plenty to run for president in a couple of years and trying to rally the forces after last night. You know what? I think if they can keep it cool, I think a great primary with JD Vance, our vice president, with Marco Rubio, with the, Ron DeSantis, throw in some others. Let's have, I love competition. I think it brings out the best in everyone. Don't make it so vicious. Nobody can't, you got to come together around the nominee. If you have a good deep pool of good candidates and just, let's see what happens. I'm excited. I think, I think Republicans have such a better future in terms of, it's a bigger tent of everyday common sense, normal people. And I think some of these leaders that Trump has empowered in his cabinet, and then you've got a leader like DeSandez. I'll always praise how well he has led Florida. That was a swing state. He won by like less than a percent in 16, and he's gone on to do, or 8 and 18, and he's made that a solid red state. It sure has. There was some sanity last night. We talked earlier about Minneapolis. Yes. The incumbent mayor there defeated the socialist candidate. Easily. Yeah. Apparently, well, in Virginia, they were electing J2 Bullets Jay Jones, right? The AG. Homicidal maniac. Yeah, I see. But in Texas, voters there soundly rejected their own Democratic candidate who'd openly opposed political or endorsed political violence. Texas State Representative Jolanda Jay Jones finished third in an all-party primary special election to succeed the late representative Sylvester.

Turner. So at least in Texas, there's a little bit of sanity. And in Loudoun County, Virginia, they had a school board race. The board member who was advocating for, you know, little boys going into big girls' bathrooms, you know? Yeah. She was kicked out. Good. Yeah. Loudoun County, is that? In Virginia. Oh, in Virginia? In Virginia. Okay, good. Wow. So it wasn't all crazy. There you go. That makes some sense. All right. More coming up. Final half hour of the Rod and Greg show here on Utah's Talk Radio 105-9, KNRS. Do you know what happened a year ago tonight? Happy birthday, America. It's time to celebrate and play your favorite Las Vegas casino games by American-owned SpinQuest.com. What's better than fireworks than American Pie? Hitting a black check in the palm of your hand, and you won't lose your fingers. Over a thousand games, including slots and live dealers. And $30 point packs are on sale for 10. SpinQuest.com. Buy American players for American players. SpendQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit SpenQuest.com for more details. You know what your customers are doing right this second? The exact same thing you are, listening to me, which, let's be honest, is kind of flattering. But my point is, ads on IHeart Radio actually get heard. In the car, at the gym, on the couch, while people are walking their dogs. Who's a good boy? Who's a good boy? You're a good boy, that's right, you're a good boy. So why not make the next ad about you? Get started today. Call 844-844-Ehart or go to iHeartadvertising.com. That's 844-844-Ehart or iHeartadvertising.com. What? Donald Trump was elected to a second term. So we were sitting here a year ago. Well, not in this studio. Were we in this studio? We were here for the election. This studio? Yes. We mean this studio. Well, I'm thinking we moved studios. I can't remember when we did it. A couple years ago, my friend. Was it? Yeah, it's been a while. Wow. Been a long while. How time flies when you're having fun. When you're having fun. Yeah. Are we having fun? We're having a blast. Okay. Yeah, no, we were here. We were here for that night. It was a year ago. Yeah. My dog died that night. Remember that? Oh, that's right. My dog died. My poor dog, sumo. Kick the bucket while I was gone, too. Didn't make Queen Bee happy at all. I shouldn't laugh. I know. Don't laugh. My dog is cute. Poor fella. He was older, but didn't see it coming, really. Didn't he just go out in the backyard? Yeah, he's so independent. He, like, picked us, by the way. He's like, he was someone else's dog in the neighborhood, and he just liked us. So he just kept coming over, and the owners finally said, and you stole him? Well, he didn't steal him. The owners just said, we're tired of pick him up every day. He must be here. He's yours? So he picked us, and then he, uh...

He died. He died a year ago tonight. Yeah, got off the couch, went in the backyard. Wow. Yeah, that's sad. I hope Queen Bee's not listening because she's not a good topic. Not topic for her. But, yeah, but I remember because it was election of all the times. I was here. Yeah, here. And I would normally have been home by that time. It was a big night. A lot of people. I mean, he won and won handily. Yes. Every single swing state. Swing state, he won. He won every one of them. I keep hearing of the most, you know, most narrow margin in history. Not electoral college-wise. Yeah, it sure wasn't. Well, let's talk more about what happened in New York last night and really what is going on with the Democratic Party. There's been kind of a non-hostile takeover of the Democratic Party, the old Democratic Party. And Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez talked about that last night on CNN. She said the oldsters or the, you know, whatever you want to call them. The old heads in the Democratic Party had better be aware that young people are coming up. They are coming up, and they're crazy, so you better get out of their way. They're not tolerating you. They don't suffer old people lightly. Yeah. Well, joining us now on our newsmaker line is the founder of Wrong Speak Publishing, Adam Coleman, writes in the New York Post as well. Always ready to have Adam on the show. Adam, you write about this non-hostile takeover. How on earth did this ever happen, Adam? Well, it happened because they presume that their only enemy is coming from the exterior, coming from the right with Donald Trump. And so anyone who is what they perceive that's on the left is automatically their friend. And where they fail to realize is that whether you want to call them progressives, socialist, whatever term you want to use, these people hate Democrats more than they hate Republicans. Their only purpose is to gain more power, more leverage, and they're willing to be a part of the team so that one day they can take control of the team. And so when we saw Kathy Hochul stand up on stage to support Zohran Mamdani, even though she had already endorsed him weeks ago, to me, that was just a humiliation ritual that was happening because she went up on stage and despite her being there and endorsing him. She was still booed by the crowd. So I think it was a power move. You know, maybe I'm looking too much into it, but that's what it felt like to me. You know, Adam, I said for a couple of days leading up to the vote yesterday that this vote with Zohran Mamdani leading and now, of course, being elected there in New York, wasn't as much of an attack on maybe the Republican Party, but a repudiation of the Democratic Party because they've done nothing in response to some of the issues these people have raised. Is that fair to say? That is definitely fair to say. You know, people like Chuck Schumer have admitted this many years ago publicly that their aim was to cater towards the middle, upper middle class and above suburbanites. They want to go towards the college educated. They abandon the working class. The unions they take for granted. You know, so that's not of their interest. And you can see that in the things that they advocate for. Their primary interest isn't economical, even though just about every election is about economics. Their primary interest is about all these niche interests that most people don't care about, don't think about, and have no interest in as they're going day-to-day, trying to take care of their family, and they're struggling.

So, yeah. And the reason why the progressives are doing so well with the Democrats is because they have a built-in ideology. They are already very enthusiastic about what they're doing. And they're ready to take control. Did you, what did you think, I don't know if you saw this last night, but what did you think about Mamadne's victory speech? It's getting some criticism being directed toward him. Some people are saying the mask really came off of him last night. What'd you make of that speech if you saw it? I thought some of it. I didn't see it all. I mean, when people tell you who they are, you should believe them, right? He's been saying that he's a socialist. There's plenty of evidence that this man's a socialist, that he admires controversial, incredibly controversial socialists around the world, even going as far as quoting some. Whether you want to call him socialist a communist, in my opinion, much of the same. It's just technical terms. But at the end of the day, these types of people are authoritarian. Here's what I'm really worried about. Everyone's worried about like he's going to seize the means of production. What I'm actually worried about is that he normalizes. socialism. And he is a lukewarm socialist so that when the next person comes along, they're saying, see, Zohran Mamdani wasn't that bad and maybe the next person is not that bad. And then that we cave in and we fall for the trick. And then by then it's too late. Adam, what do you make of the numbers that I'm hearing today that people who've lived in New York for 10 years or less, even five years or less, came out in huge numbers for Zohran Mamdani. Does that and the older residents of New York City voted for other candidates being Andrew Cuomo and maybe a little bit of, oh, what's his name? But, Curtis Sliwa, I mean, what do you make of that number? I mean, it appears new New York City residents are the ones who really support Zohran Mamdani. Yeah, there's a lot of motivation from people who just recently came there. And I do think there is an exhaustion. Maybe that's the word we want to use. There's an exhaustion when it comes to New York politics for people who have been there a long time because it feels like nothing will change. And the people who come there don't have that historical baggage of the city. So they're far more optimistic. They're far more engaged. You know, they moved there, right? They weren't born there, so they don't necessarily take New York for granted. And so they want to be heavily involved in dictating the direction of the city. Whether we agree with the direction is a different story. Yeah. But I do see a different temperament for people who were born and raised in New York City versus someone who just came there because they love sex in the city.

Good point. Final question for you, Adam. Always great to have you on this show. Do you foresee a battle taking place within the Democratic Party in the coming months and years over, you know, the socialist Democrats versus the more traditional Democrats? Do you see a fight brewing here? Oh, I mean, the fight, I don't see a fight at all. Or is it over already? I think it's over already. I think it's been over for quite some time. The reality is that within the party, the people, you know, blue dog Democrats, people long-time establishment types of Democrats, they didn't resist. That was the main point within my article is that they didn't resist this radical faction. They just went with it. And then you start hearing them changing language. When you see Joe Biden say gender affirming care, you know that, you know, things have changed, that he is not the one that is in control, even though he was the president at the time. It's that the progressives are dictating the language and they're dictating the direction of the party. It's been happening more and more. I think they thought that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was a blip in the radar when actually she was the starting point for many of much of this. You know, she overtook a longstanding congressman and she's, you know, supposedly just the bartender. And now look at her. She's up there and she's one of the faces of the Democratic Party. So they took him for granted or I'm sorry, they underestimated them. And that fight didn't really happen, right? The DSA ilk, they've taken over. And you're going to see more and more of them as time goes on.

Adam Coleman joining us on our newsmaker line talking about the radical move to the left within the Democratic Party. And Greg, it's going to be interesting to see in the coming weeks and months and years the fight within the party. Is it going to be the old guard or the new guard, which is much more leftists than the old guard? I think what's going to happen is you're going to have the new guard takeover. I think it's going to be a disaster because history's never shown a version of what they want that's ever worked out. When the disaster hits, you're going to have the party's going to go through kind of what it did when Bill Clinton was kind of the new Democrat. You're going to have some pragmatic blue dog Democrats that emerge. That day is coming for the Democrats, but it's not the current crowd, old or young. And it's going to come after they've lost in a number of election cycles. Well, I think you saw a little bit of it last night. You had Abigail Spanberger and Cheryl Mikie Sherrill in New Jersey. Moderate Democrats would be described, right? And then you have Pam Bondi winning in New York City. So you can see the contrast in the party, and somehow those two are going to have to get together. Well, and I'm going to tell you that Republicans are only going to enjoy. victory over them if they if they decide to be disruptors and not be a uniparty and then just keep spending this country into oblivion and debt and really fight for the everyday people if he if they can do what trump's been doing or trying to do uh the republicans have i think very good days in front of them but they have to do the hard work and the hard work is to just push back this establishment this swamp this uniparty nonsense that we have suffered through for so long. And this point's been made a couple of times some of the guests we've talked to today, Greg. They've got to do some things legislatively. Yes. In a way, I think sometimes they've depended too much on Trump with executive orders. They've got to do something legislatively. And if you look at it, Greg, they've got about a month, month and a half left of controlling things. Because, you know, when you get to election years, which will be in next year. Nothing gets done. No, they don't. And they get scared. And I hate people that make decisions out of fear. But you lose your legislative separate and equal powers when you don't exercise them. The muscles go into atrophy. You don't know how to do it. You don't know what you don't know. They have walked away from so many of their prerogatives, their separate and equal powers, and they've left it to Obama's and, you know, and Biden and now Trump with these executive orders. It wasn't meant to be that way. Yeah. But they got it. I mean, they can't keep the government open now. No. No. All right. Coming up, final thoughts, and we'll tell you what happened. Tom Brady's dog. Ew. That's coming up next on the Rod and Greg show. Oh, I've had no luck lately. Wait, lady luck? Brett Ski, I got you. I've had so much luck on SpinQuest.com. They have all of my favorite games, slot games, live blackjack craps, and bubble craps. You can even get a $30 coin pack for just $10 bucks. $10 for 30. I'm headed over to SpinQuest.com right now. SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit spendquest.com for more details.

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