The Rod and Greg Show: Weekly Congress Interview; Supremes & Immigration; SC Win for Trump

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with. The judge gave a private left of center organization, the effect of law to draw these districts themselves. They don't actually work. So it's yet to be applied. They're having to delay the filing dates for those congressional. That's one of the things we'll do in this special session is delay the filing dates because they don't have workable maps. How can you run for a seat that you don't know where the district is? And part of that is because you don't have maps at work. They're not actually aligned to borders or they're splitting. houses, but that's what you get when a private group gets to draw and do what the Constitution said that the legislative branch gets to do. But I look forward to, and maybe we'll have some clips tomorrow after this special session is over, of some of the comments that lawmakers make on the floor debating and talking about the fact that they did not approve. I think they may affirmatively vote down those maps. Well, we'll see. I mean, you and I were talking about this earlier today. I wish the governor and lieutenant governor stepped in right away and said these maps are not acceptable. And, you know, when she had that deadline of November, what was it, 10th? I think it was the 10th of November. Yeah. Where she had to have that deadline, she should have stepped in and said, no, I reject these maps. They aren't acceptable. They weren't approved by members of the Utah legislature. Which the Constitution says they should be. A plain reading of our state constitution would give, I think, the governor and lieutenant governor all the room to just say, nope. You can refer it back to a legislative branch, but you can't take that branch's powers away from him. Mike Lee will join us here in a few minutes. He has some rather harsh words to say about this redistricting plan and a group called Mormon Women for Ethical Government. There's a few thoughts on what that group is like. We'll talk to Mike about that coming up a little bit later on. We'll talk about the Supreme Court. Now, an important hearing yesterday concerning if the president has the right to look at agency heads and just say, you're fired. And apparently he can't do that now because of a very antiquated law from years ago during FDR. But the Supreme Court may change that. Liz Peake will join us. We'll talk about birthright citizenship. That has opened up a door for a discussion on that, plus a lot more to get to. So it's great to be here with you as we broadcast live from Minky Couture and Layton. Can I share a quick Minky story with you? Absolutely. Would you like to hear one as we start off the show? It's a happy place. I mean, look at all the Christmas decorations. Yes, please do. So let me share this story with you about Mankyikotour. Got home last night about, you know, we usually get home about eight, around 8 o'clock, a little bit, 4.8. And I walk in the house and I said my wife, it's cool in here. I mean, it's cool. Temperature-wise, right? And we go to the thermostat, and it showed 67. And the thermostat was set at 71. Uh-oh. So we're going, uh, something's cooking, right? Or not cooking. We're not cooking. So we checked everything, and we couldn't get it to come on. And we called any hour services, right? But we went to bed last night in a cold house.

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right here on Utah's Talk Radio 105-9 KNRS. We invite you to come on by. We've got hats. We've got golf towels. We've got little measuring tapes. We've got tools he can use. We've got candy. We invite you to come on by and enjoy some of the goodies. Yeah. Come on by. We've got some swag. We've got some stuff to share. And the best thing of all? You say Rod 55, you'll get 55% off your purchase. That's right. Just in time for the holiday. So we invite you to come on by. We'll be here until 7 o'clock tonight. I want to mention the Supreme Court, man, their decisions coming down at the end of June when they make them great are going to be monumental. I mean, they deal with tariffs. They deal with birthright citizenship. Yesterday they heard a case involving if the president, Donald Trump, can look at the head of federal agency and unelected federal agency. And look at him and say you're fired. And right now he can't do that, but the court is considering that. Well, you know, I think I was surprised that in the executive branch you couldn't, but you had this fourth branch. It's been swimming around there for 90 years, and it's only gotten bigger and more draconian. And so I think that the time has arrived. And I think that a lot of people listening to the questions asked by the Supreme Court justices, it seems like the questions pointed in the direction that they're going to. but not have a fourth branch, but have the executive branch have control to hire and fire those positions. Well, I had a chance to talk with Utah Senator Mike Lee a little bit earlier today about this, and I asked him about this decision and his take on everything. Here's what he had to say. Yeah, so I attended the Supreme Court arguments yesterday in a case called Trump v. Slaughter. This is a case testing whether the president can remove... executive branch bureaucrats, specifically in this case, a member of the Federal Trade Commission, based on policy disagreements or something else, falling short of a willful violation of the law or other affirmative act of malfeasance. Now, look, Article 2 vests the President of the United States with executive power. In fact, Article 2 itself says that the executive power is vested in the president. Hey, it is Ryan Seacrest here. Want to bring a little Hollywood excitement to your day? Take a few spins with Chumba Casino's brand new game. Ryan Seacrest's 10K Ways. It's free and features 10,000 ways to play, giving you nonstop action, including thrilling bonus re spins and cascading reels. Every spin brings something new. So step into the spotlight. Enjoy the excitement. And play today at chumbacasino.com. To Chumba! No purchase necessary. VGW Group. Voidware prohibited by law. CTs and Cs, 21 Plus, sponsored by Chumba Casino. These days, it's getting harder and harder to trust what you're seeing. Who made it? Is it real? But with Iheart, everything you hear is guaranteed human. That's why 78% of listeners trust their favorite radio hosts product recommendations. And if you own or manage a business here or need to drive sales, that trust goes a long way in creating your future customers. Make iHeartMedia a part of your 2026 plan today. Visit iHeartadvertising.com. Again, that's iHeartadvertising.com. Aren't implementing the laws and aren't doing so in a manner consistent with what the president believes is appropriate. The president should be able to remove them.

Nearly a century ago, in a case known as Humphrey's executor, the Supreme Court said that the president could not fire certain employees. But during yesterday's arguments, several justices, I believe six of them, seemed unconvinced that Humphrey's executor can stand. And so we're left with this question. Is a sort of nameless, headless, faceless, fourth branch of government? One utterly lacking in political accountability to the voters. Is that constitutional? I say no. And it appears to me very likely that there are at least six justices on the nine member Supreme Court who are likely to agree with that. So the Supreme Court now has this opportunity to overturn Humphrey's executor and restore presidential authority over the executive branch. That would end an era of a type of bureaucratic tyranny, of these people who operate within the executive branch without any accountability to any elected official, including the president of the United States. So the end of Humphrey's executor, I believe, is coming, and it can't come soon enough. What does that mean, in your opinion, Senator Lee, for the future of the federal government? I mean, this is not going to do away with the bureaucratic state, but what does it mean? I mean, look down the road, what do you see, what things do you see changing? Well, really, this is about personnel. And as is often said in Washington and elsewhere in government generally, personnel very often is policy. And if the president as the chief executive officer of the U.S. government doesn't have the ability to fire executive branch employees who are not executing and implementing and enforcing the law in a manner consistent with what he deems appropriate, he ought to be able to fire them or else he is, at least in that area, not functioning as the president. That's wrong. The Constitution can't countenance that. Article 2 specifically forecloses that, as did previous interpretations. of Article 2 prior to this Humphrey's executor ruling, which came out about 90 years ago. Does this give him a lot more freedom in doing what he wants to do when it comes to shrinking the size of the federal government? Do you think, Senderly? Not specifically on that point. Humphrey's executor is agnostic as to the size and overall cost and reach of the government. This deals more with the balancing, what I refer to as the horizontal distribution of power within the U.S. government. It deals with his ability to operate as the chief executive officer of the executive branch of government. So again, that's agnostic as to the overall size and cost and reach of the federal government, but it deals with what he may do with personnel, especially with the understanding that personnel is policy. I want to move on to another topic. Utah lawmakers meeting today in special session. One of the issues they're going to be talking about is this redistricting plan, which I know you've been very critical of. I noticed over the weekend you got into a little text message battle going on with Ben McAdams. What can be done now? It appears everything that the judge that they're trying to do before the courts is tossing it out. Where do you see this going, Sender Lee?

their state's congressional boundaries, nor does the Utah Constitution authorize it, nor did the Utah Constitution authorize Judge Gibson to do what she did and just adopt lock, stock, and barrel their plan. But nonetheless, this happened. They want their own elected representatives making these decisions. The people of Utah understandably justifiably want that. Mormon women for ethical government were really aggressive in going after gerrymandering, and yet that's exactly what this is. There's a political gerrymander. It's apparent on the face of these maps, which they propose, and Judge Gibson, due to... Utah Senator Mike Lee on the Rodin Greg Show talking about a number of key issues. More coming up as we continue with our live broadcast from Minkie Go Tour here in Layton. Bubba Wallace here from 2311 racing. On the track, my car's look is everything. But today, I'm talking about more than just paint schemes. I'm talking about my favorite games at Chumba Casino. Check out exclusives like Stampede Fury and my own King Crock Theory. It's just as wild as my car looked in Texas. With over 200 games and new ones weekly, play for free at chumbacasino.com. Let's Chumba. Sponsored by Chumba Casino. No purchase necessary. VGW Group, voidware prohibited by law, 21 plus, terms and conditions apply. You know what your customers are doing right this second? The exact same thing you are, listening to me, which, let's be honest, is kind of flattering. But my point is, ads on IHeart Radio actually get heard. In the car, at the gym, on the couch, while people are walking their dogs. Who's a good boy? Who's a good boy? You're a good boy, that's right, you're a good boy. So why not make the next ad about you? Get started today. Call 844-844-Ehart or go to IHeartadvertising.com. That's 844-844-Ehart or IHeartadvertising.com. If you're looking for that last-minute gift or a gift that you'd say, I've got to give a gift to somebody, but they've got everything. Well, how about a Minky Couture blanket? More coming up on the Rod and Greg Show and Talk Radio 105-9, KNS. If we're at a commercial break and you're listening, you've come in, I hope you stopped by and say hi. Stop by and say hi. We've got these great hats. We've got hats. We've got golf towels. Golf towels. We've got little tools you can pick up and use, put in your car, tape measures. We do. And then there's some candy. Yeah. Which you have imbibed in. I have had a Tutsi roll. Yeah, yeah. Two, three. But, no, you got to stop. If you come by, we hope you come by. You know you will. But come and say hi to us. Yeah. We love to meet the listeners. You're the smartest, listening audience in all the land. And wonderful blankets. And again, Rod 55, just come into the story. Get a blanket. Go to the counter and say Rod 55, and they'll give you 55% off. This is good through the weekend. So check that out. All right. Let's talk more about the Supreme Court. And important to say Donald Trump is doing so many good things when it comes to immigration. A problem in this country created why I think lackluster lawmakers. And I think I would include Republicans on that as well. Yes. But since Joe Biden took office.

You know, what do we allow? 11 million illegal aliens into this country over that period of time? I mean, it was absolutely amazing. It's not just letting them in. The NGOs then transported, this massive transportation effort to all continental United States and then signing them up for benefits, welfare benefits, public assistance. It's unprecedented. In those four years, we've never seen anything like it. And we need to discuss immigration in those terms and not just... boil it down to the traditional discussions of illegal immigration because what happened to us as a country in the four years of joe biden really does have to be spoken about i know it's an uncomfortable conversation for some but this is this is this is impacting you know our schools we said this yesterday our schools our public safety our jobs our housing uh criminal justice is really suffering in a lot of ways disproportionately We have to be able to talk about these things. Well, joining us on our newsmaker line to talk about birthright citizenship is Liz Peake, a columnist at Fox News. Liz, great to have you on the show. Tell us about why you feel that with the Supreme Court talking about birthright citizenship, it opens up a door on immigration for Donald Trump. Well, I think it's a chance to sort of reignite the conversation about our immigration system, which I think most people would agree is not serving the interests of the United States. Birthright citizenship is, of course, one very contentious issue. It is a policy that is rare amongst developed nations. Almost everyone else, every other country has abolished it because... It serves as a tremendous enticement to illegal immigration. Birthright citizenship means anyone born on U.S. soil is automatically a U.S. citizen. And so what you have, number one, is a tremendous amount of birthright or birth tourism where people come from China and Russia and drop a baby here knowing there'll be a citizen. It also is a tremendous enticement for people from Mexico and South America to come across the border. Because even if they are illegal, their kids will be legal and ultimately, you know, that they hope that that means the family will be included as well. So it's a bad policy, but we have lots of bad policies. The diversity lottery is a terrible policy. My view, counting undocumented people in the census is also a terrible policy because it rewards Democrats whose states are bleeding residents. by allowing them to entice a lot of people illegally in the country to come and live in their state. And so they don't lose congressional seats. They don't lose federal aid, et cetera. I think President Trump started strong on immigration. People were happy to see the border secured. But now people have turned against his administration because they view the deportation policies as too harsh. I think everyone in the Latino community probably knows someone who's been here 30 years and lived a respectable life and all of a sudden has been rounded up. So that's something that's not working and he needs to fix it.

The birthright citizenship issue, it does apply, however, to what is it, the 14th Amendment of the Constitution? Could the court come back and say, this is a constitutional issue? You need to go to the people or have, you know, the legislative body change this. I mean, could they kick the can down the road on this one? Absolutely. They could. They could just say his executive order, which abolished birthright citizenship, doesn't hold, is not legitimate because it is established under the Constitution. Now, the 14th Amendment has a little wiggle room in it because it talks about anyone born on U.S. soil and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. Well, Trump and his team would say that people who are here illegally. are not really subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S. government. They serve or they answer perhaps to their own government or a government somewhere else, but not really to ours. And there are exceptions to the rule. If you're a diplomat and you have a child in the United States, that child does not become a U.S. citizen, even though he or she is born in the United States on American soil. So there are carve-outs and what people would... What the Trump team would argue is that the 14th Amendment was basically an effort to reverse the Dred Scott decision, which said that blacks could not become citizens. That was a pretty horrible decision. And that's why they adopted the 14th Amendment. This birthright citizenship issue, Liz, and you pointed this out just a moment ago, has been really abused in this country. I mean, you have people from all over the world who come to the United States to have a child, and then that child becomes the citizen of the United States. The abuse has been amazing, hasn't it? Hey, it's Ryan Sechrest here. And if you're looking for some serious fun, head over to chumbacasino.com. At Chumba Casino, you can play all your favorite social casino style games for free anytime, anywhere. It's the most fun you can have on your phone or computer. No purchase necessary. VGW. Boy, we're prohibited by law. See terms and conditions. 21 plus. These days, it's getting harder and harder to trust what you're seeing. Who made it? Is it real? But with Iheart, everything you hear is guaranteed human. That's why 78% of listeners trust their favorite radio hosts product recommendations. And if you own or manage a business here or need to drive sales, that trust goes a long way in creating your future customers. Make iHeartMedia a part of your 2026 plan today. Call 844-844-I-Hart. Again, that's 844-844-I-Hart. Yes, absolutely. There was a period of time, oh, I remember writing about this maybe 15 years ago, where Chinese were coming in by the thousands. And there were literally spas built on the West Coast to accommodate pregnant Chinese women who were coming here exclusively to give birth so that their children could become citizens. I mean, who, obviously that's a tremendous boon. If you're not comfortable with your own government.

and you're looking for an escape hatch, having a U.S. passport, that is like, you know, worth its weight in gold. And a lot of people would like to have that. So it has been abused. I don't have up-to-date numbers on how many people every year are coming here expressly for this purpose, but it's far too many. And it's just, again, something where the United States is not very careful about the benefits that they hand out, whether they're cash benefits or citizens. citizenship benefits. What do the polls say about this issue? I haven't seen any polls of late. What do the American people say as far as the polling is concerned? I don't think that's very popular. I don't have the numbers in front of me, but most of the things that Trump has proposed in the past. about changing our immigration regulations, his view has been positive. People want, again, our immigration policies to serve our country. For example, astonishingly, some 84% approve of a merit-based program. That's like what Canada has, where you would basically accumulate points because you speak English, you have a trade we need, et cetera. and you would be admitted on the basis of merit, not random selection. And I think, you know, that kind of thing, I think people are very open to it. And I don't think that birthright citizenship is in that category. It is not something that benefits our country. Liz Peake from Fox News joining us on our newsmaker line this afternoon. We are broadcasting live today from Minky Couture here in Layton with a great offer. Lisa is back with us. I just saw one of our great customers or great listeners and customers. I think he had nine or ten bags with him. Oh, at least. A 13. 13 bags. 13 bags. I know it required assistance to get out to the car. He had so many. So I was like, I lost count after. See, our listeners don't mess around, Lisa. They show up. They're ready to buy. Lisa, they're ready to buy. Well, they know what a good deal we have for you guys tonight. 55. I've got to get in there. Stop, shop, shop. Give the man a hat. Here, give this a man a hat. Enjoy. Thank you. Thank you. 13 blankets. Wow. All right. You've got a great deal today. Yes. you offer you i know we can talk about the blankets but there's so much more now to make ecotour yes yes we have our robes that are a huge hit for christmas that everybody loves yes so it's in essence you're right you can wear that blanket around the house so our robes are really popular we also have our christmas pillowcases our christmas collections stockings scarves you name it right we have got you covered at minky couture we want to make sure that you have the most magical, cozy Christmas ever. Do you think anyone hasn't put their tree up yet?

Because if they haven't, you have skirts, don't you? We do, yes, we do. We have tree skirts, and they are adorable. I like the tree skirts. They're so cute. I've got one under both of my trees, and I often find my dogs that's where they'll, if I can't find them, they're under the tree on that. The tree in the Hughes House wouldn't be up without Queen Bee. Yeah, that is true, actually. He'd think, oh, it's December 26th. Maybe I should put a tree up. That's how the guy thinks. All right, what is the offer today, Lisa? Yes, so we have a... A code, Rod 55, which will give your listeners 55% off any full-priced items in store. Okay. And that goes through the weekend. Yes, that will go through the weekend. And also online. And all seven locations. All seven store locations. All right, check it out, folks. We are broadcasting live today from Mickey Couture, Rod 55. And join the guy who walked out with 13 blankets. Yeah. Give the man, we gave the man a hat. We deserve that man. He deserved that money. I sure did. Buddy, I'm Rod Arquette. I'm Citizen Greg Hughes. Some of a nice listener came by. Yeah, I gave him my hat. Said hello. Gave my hat, gave my Rodden and Greg hat. He, yeah. I'm telling you, folks, if you come in to Minkie Couture, if you're here in Layton in this area, they have the people here, the salespeople are on standby, they're going to help you out. If you'd feel lost or intimidated coming into a place like this, which I normally would if we weren't doing a live shot here, if I wasn't now a veteran of Minky Couture, I would feel intimidated coming in because I wouldn't know what to buy. There are people here that will help you. And with that Rod 55 discount, 55% off, you can't, you can't miss it. No, no. It's a big save. It is a big save, and people are taking advantage of it. That's why, you know, this one gentleman, a listener of ours, we gave him a hat, walked out with 13 blankets. Yeah. Wow. Look, it's a catch-all. If you don't know what to buy someone, this, not only is it a great gift. You get remembered for this gift. This is a gift that I get. People come back up that I've given this as a gift, and they remember this. Last a lifetime. My dog Ruby's a little bit of a hog. She takes too many of the blankets. She finds them. Your dog Ruby does? Yeah, she loves just relaxing in the blankets. We have a blanket for her, but she takes all the blankets. Wow. It's kind of rude. It's kind of rude. I want to talk sports this hour on a couple of notes. First of all, you know, World Cup soccer. Are you a soccer fan? Not at all. Now, look, I suffered through my daughter. You brush that off so fast? Yeah, I don't even. I'm not even going to pretend. But I did sit through a lot of games that my daughter played through like, you know, Sparty United, you know, the club sports and the high school soccer. Like, I love, everybody, if you listen to the show, you know I love sports. I can't tell off sides in soccer if I were sitting next to it. You're not alone on that one. I hate games that end in a tie. I think it's an offense. It's not American. I hate it. I hate a tie. That's like kissing your sister. I just hate ties. Sit there and sometimes soccer doesn't end in a tie. There's like a, you know, they have the kick at the end. You know, they kicked it. Again, it's goalie versus kicker at the very end. They get a kickoff or whatever they call. But sometimes you do it, but other times they didn't. I see the final whistleblown, and everyone's getting up and getting their chairs and going. I'm like, where are we going? See, I think on the extra kick, I can't remember. Someone will tell. What's it called, guys? But at the end, when they have, they should shrink the goal down because that's too big of a net for one guy to cover when it's one-on-one.

I mean, it's never fair. It's never fair. Yeah, yeah. Well, you asked me the original question was, do I like soccer? And the answer is no. But I was a good father. I did attend all those games. See, I actually liked soccer primarily because of our youngest son, who played soccer goalie. He was a goalie for Davis High years ago. Two of his children now play competitive soccer. And I like watching the EPL, the English Premier League. And I like the World Cup. The World Cup is coming up next year. I don't even know who you are. Why? Why? I bet we have more soccer. No, I'm not going to say that because I'll get in trouble. Don't even go there. But I bet we have quite a few soccer fans. Not that I'll admit it. No, I mean, you just went on and on. You have quite their resume. Well, I, if you understand the game, it's kind of fun to watch. You know, they flop a lot. Men, grown men, they fall down and act like you're hurt when they're not. Yeah. It's the antithesis of football. The Italians do that. They all do it. No, they don't. I see them. They're all rolling around crying, and they get up and run off. Well, let me bring this up to you because I find this a very interesting story. Then we'll get into our main topic tonight. Another sports topic. The city of Seattle. is going to be one of the sites of the World Cup matches next summer, this coming summer, right? Yes. And they have designated September, or they have designated Pride match. Pride match. Okay, for one of the matches of World Cup. Is this for Lions? Pride? No, no, no. Like for a Lions Pride? It's for the gay community. Okay, it's a Pride match is what they're calling. Now, the problem with this match is the two teams that are playing do not condone homosexuality. Egypt and Iran. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. First off, when you said there's a pride match in soccer, it sounded like a perfect fit for me. But now you say that it's Egypt and Iran. Egypt and Iran, who we know. As nation states, they are religiously affiliated nation states. And Iran throws games off of buildings. Yes. And they're going to have their game wrapped in rainbows and pride match, the pride match, in Seattle. Well, that won't feel very welcoming to those countries coming to the World Cup. Now, will it? No, I think that again, once again, rude. You don't think that'll work? You don't think that'll work. All right, now, I want to talk, I want to keep it on sports, because I find this story to be fascinated. Do you know what is one of the fastest growing sports in America today? Pickleball. No, well, pickleball is, yes. I was going to say, that's your favorite sport. You know another one? What? Girls wrestling. Nah, I hate that. You know, you get, are you seen the guys with cauliflower ear? Yeah? I mean, you don't want any. You know what the ladies walk around with cauliflower ear? No, that's from wrestling. No, that's from boxing. No, that's from the, that's from the cartilage in their ear getting broken up because they're getting their head scraped on the mats. That's a wrestling. Collieflower ear is a. is a wrestling thing, not a boxing thing. You're full of baloney. You can't let girls get those cauliflower ears. That'll be terrible. It will not look good. They have to wear long hair. Well, grow their hair long. They'll be all right. But apparently, there is word out there that wrestling for girls at the middle school and high school level has become very, very popular.

with bad parents, maybe with bad parents. But I will say, my daughter, Soph, my oldest, I let her train in boxing, not, she didn't like enter any tournaments for anything. And she would spar a little bit with the great headgear. They have new headgear that actually blocks your nose, so you don't get your nose punched. But she trained, and I liked her training. I thought it was good for her to know how to throw a jab and throw a right if needed. Yeah. So I like the training. But in wrestling, I don't know. All of it just seems harsh. Did you do, well, I don't know how often you went to school because even if you went for four years. I was a feral child. It was a, you know, sporadic thing. We all didn't remember going to gym class and we have to wrestle. Really? You had to wrestle. Where I went school, you had part of the curriculum during the winter months where I grew up in New York State was we had wrestling and we had to wrestle each other. Didn't you do that in P. No. How did you do that in P.E? No. Did you wrestle? Dave. Dave, you did? Yeah, he wrestled. Maybe that's here. I don't know. They make us wrestle. They didn't? Mm-mm. We didn't do that. We played dodgeball, man. We just played dodgeball, too, but you had to wrestle. We didn't know. We did not have to wrestle. They had to do an eight. Then you had to do the, what was it, what was it, a seven-minute run or something? You had to do that. You had to do that every year. You had to do that every, I don't know. All I know is we weren't wrestling. You had to get in. You had to get on all fours. The guy wrap around, hold it. He'd take you down. This is a family show. We don't have to talk about the intricacies of the sport. You would have to learn that. If it was WWWE wrestling. You have me. W.W. Oh, give me a break. I want to do some body slams and some, you know, Superfly Jimmy Snooka jumps across the ring. I'll do that. I like that. And you believe it? Yes, it was all real. There was even blood. There was even blood. Yeah. Sure. So I like that. I like the WWF and WWE wrestling. I don't like that what you just described. And girls doing that. No, you can't have that. I'd like to talk to a parent who has a child, a girl who is wrestling. No, we have good listeners. Yeah, we have good listeners. Responsible parents that would never do that to their daughter. Responsible parent. I think you allow your daughter. Well, remember the girl who played football. She got on that cover of her. No, no, no, I like her. You know Sam. I do know her. I pointed her to, when I was speaking. So what's the difference between her playing football and her wrestling? It's not even remotely close. She was so fast. No one could touch her. I mean, she was a phenomenal football player. They even, the NFL made a big deal about her. I know they did. Yeah, she's a, she's a hero. Sam Gordon. Anything that gets kids off the couch. off their video games, off whatever. You get pads and helmets. You don't have to sit there and roll around on a mat and get your ears all scraped up and everything. Get your ears scraped up. That's terrible. That's just not. But I would like to know if there are some listeners out there tonight who do, in fact, allow their daughters to wrestle either in the middle or high school level and why they allowed to do that. And if people, if they enjoy it, it would be interesting to see. I would just like see what they're doing out there. You hate it, the idea.

Anything that gets kids active, I don't care if they're rolling around in a mat or running around a lake, I think it's good. Well, what are you doing on your phone? Someone sent me a video, but I couldn't open it to see it, and I think it had sports-related, so I was just going to see if it was making, if they were siding with me or you. What? You wouldn't let your daughter's wrestle. No, but I let me. Lisa, would you lay your daughter's wrestle? Be honestly, don't let him pressure you. I can already see it on your face. It's heaven's no. Heaven's no is the answer. It's a two-word answer. Yes, no. We're not having our daughters wrestle. But what if she's wrestling other girls? Not boys, but other girls. Of course, other girls. But still, it's no. I don't know. I've not, like, that was never a thing when I was in school. I'd have to, like, see. Because I know, right, like, there are. It's very popular. Lisa's just so nice. She doesn't know how to tell you no. That's just that is about the nicest she can be about. She's saying, you know, get lost. My kids are wrestle. None of my girls are wrestling. No. What if they asked, can I wrestle mom? No. Well. She's thinking. See, she's not saying anything. All right, we want to hear from you tonight. Let's talk about Mickey Couture. Yes. On this issue, we'll talk about Mickey Couture in a minute. We're right now talking about. Wrestling. Would you allow your daughters to wrestle at the junior or? Middle school or senior high school level. High school level. If they're wrestling other girls. My bad. The guys thing. My bet is that parents would not, but I don't know. A lot to see. All right. Lisa is here. Hey, this is Ryan Sechrest here. And if you're looking for some serious fun, head over to chumbac casino.com. At Chumba Casino, you can play all your favorite social casino style games for free anytime, anywhere. It's the most fun you can have on your phone or computer. No purchase necessary. VGW. Boy, we're prohibited by law. See terms and conditions. 21 plus. You know what your customers are doing right this second? The exact same thing you are, listening to me. Which, let's be honest, is kind of flattering. But my point is, ads on IHeart Radio actually get heard. In the car, at the gym, on the couch, while people are walking their dogs. Who's a good boy? Who's a good boy? You're a good boy, that's right, you're a good boy. So why not make the next ad about you? Get started today. Call 844-844-Ehart or go to iHeartadvertising.com. That's 844-844-Ehart or iHeartadvertising.com. Shall we talk about Minky Couture? Yes. Shall we? You've got all kinds of, tell us about some of your holiday patterns that are really hot right now for a lot of people. Yes, our Christmas prints. It's always fun, right? It's kind of the thing every year that Minky does is we have, you know, exclusive designs to Minky Couture that our team here designs. And every year it seems like, well, for the last few years, we've always had a nutcracker. So there will always be a new nutcracker style.

And then we'll add in new additions. And some of the new additions this year, we've got like a Christmas cookie. We have an adorable pink candy cane. Yeah, right next to that. Yes, it is so cute. I'm a grandma now. And so I have a little granddaughter. And that was like when I saw, I'm like, that's it. I have to have that for her. The pillowcases are very popular. The pillowcases are actually popular. And the price point, right, they're $9 right now. So it's a great time to stock up on those. You can give them as friend gifts, neighbor gifts. Teacher gifts. I mean, it's a really great gift that you can share with others, and it's, you know, a really affordable price point for everyone. I know for a long time we've been talking with Sandy over the years, there was always a lot of people from Cash County saying, when are you going to bring a store to us and Logan, when, when, when, and you've done it. And we're there. It's fantastic. We love Cash Valley. Like you say, we've had customers who've been like, when are you coming? When are you coming? We obviously miss those customers here at the Layton store because we found that they would come to shop. So we miss all of them. But we're so happy to be serving the cash valley area with the best blanket ever. It's been a fantastic, I mean. It's like the field of dreams if you build it, right? They will come. And they have. And it has just been such a warm welcome up there. And we're just so appreciative of all of our customers up there. Nice people up in Cash County. Wonderful people. I think a few voted for him when he was running for another. There's a few. Very, very, very few. Level-headed individuals. Yeah, level-headed. Yeah. All right, what's our offer tonight? Because you've got another good one. Yep, we've got a great one. And this is really. I can't think that there's going to be a better deal than this coming between now and Christmas. So this is it, friends. This is the time to take advantage of these savings. So the code is Rod 55, and that will give you 55% off any full priced items in store or online. Okay. And hurry now. Don't wait. Yeah. We're here till 7. You're open till 8. Yep. And that code will go through the weekend. Okay. The thing you're running into at this point is selection. Yeah, supply. So the selections are getting more picked over. So really best savings, best selection. Come now, shop now, you know, take advantage of this. We're at Minky Couture and Leighton. You've got Leighton. I'm going to touch you again. Yep. I want all seven locations. Okay. I have to go geographically. That's fine. That's fine. Logan, South Ogden, Layton, Sugarhouse, Draper, Orham, and St. George. Man, you nailed it. Yep. Good job. Good job. Come on by. Rod 55 for a wonderful gift. from Minky Coatour. We're down to three hats. Down to three hats. If you guys are out there, you want to get a great deal on a blanket here at Minky Couture, and we'll give you a brand new Rod and Greg Show hat, and they're pretty popular hats. They are. They're good looking to. Flying off the shelf. Good looking, too. So are the blankets. If you just joining us now, this is not the top issue in the country today. There are other important issues, but an interesting topic, I think, in talking about girls in wrestling. Yeah. It is a growing sport. Hal just told us, is it Westlake High School has a girls wrestling team. Disgusting. And they won like four state championships. I'm appalled. And the question is, would you allow your daughter to wrestle? I wouldn't go for the co-ed stuff, but I would if it's... Now, this is where I'm... I know this is going to sound hypocritical, but I will say that amateur boxing, I don't have as big of a problem with girls participating in amateur boxing. Wait a minute.

So they can beat on each other, but they can't wrestle each other. Yeah, I think the wrestling is just too hard because, like I said, you don't want their ears getting scraped up on the mats. And I just think the wrestling is, I don't know, it just seems too much. Yeah. But we do have really good girl amateur boxers. Yeah. And you're okay with the boxing, but not the rest. They've gone to nationals and everything. Yeah. I don't follow you on that one. All right. I know. 88857081010. Let's go to Mike, who's in Eagle Mountain tonight on the Rod and Greg Show. Mike, how are you? Thanks for joining us tonight. I'm doing really great. Thanks for having me. I believe that and you actually, I agree with Citizen Hughes, I'm probably 98% of the things. Oh, no. He's lost his mind. Oh, no, Mike. Say it as it so. These, no, I, these two, you're talking about, you mentioned Westlake High School. I have two of the girls that went to Wessek High School in my neighborhood. And I can tell you that one of them took state four out of four years, freshman, sophomore, junior, senior. Mike, is it because there's eight girls wrestling? Is that why? I mean, what's the, what's the talent pool? No. The talent pool is huge now. And West Lake High School is just phenomenal. The other girls took state, I believe, two or three times in her four years in high school. And one of them, the first one, went to play for the U.S. team and was ranked in the top 10 for her weight class in the whole nation. And I believe. I believe that they shouldn't have to wrestle biological males. Yes. But that being said, I also believe that both of these young women could pin you to the ground. Yeah, probably. Probably. Here's the thing, though. What about the cauliflower ear? Oh, did we already lose? No, no. You know, I've seen guys in high school. They wrestle. Their ears start to look different. What are we doing for the girls on that? Do we know? All you have to do is wear the ear protection, even in practice, and you won't get that. Neither am I don't. These two young women do not have top hour ear. See? See, I told you. It's a good thing to do. All right, let's go back to the phones. We want to go to, where is this, Cash Valley? We're talking with Brittany tonight here on the Rod and Greg Show. Brittany, how are you? Thanks so much for joining us. Hey, thank you. It's so great to talk to you around Greg. Yeah, I just wanted to chime in on the women's wrestling, girls' wrestling. My husband actually coaches at a gym, and he coaches things like jujitsu and boca jitsu, a lot of different, like grappling, MMA styles, but he actually has a lot of females in his class. But high school doesn't have a lot of programs that would convert those. activities into the high school. And so a lot of the girls that go to his gym convert to wrestling for their high school classes just to keep that skill uptick. So, yeah, it's really popular up here. Brittany, with jujitsu and some of the, I like the combat sports a little bit, but wrestling, do you think, wrestling just seems like, you know, again, I go back and Mike says if they wear the protective gear on their ears, they don't get the cauliflower ear. But I'm telling you, wrestling is.

It's tough. For girls? I mean, do we really want, I don't know. Tell me, walk me back from this. I can see amateur boxing. I can see the jiu-jitsu. I can't see wrestling. Brittany, help me at this. What am I missing? Well, wrestling, it's really just another skill. You have to learn how to maneuver your body and function your body correctly to harness the abilities of that skill, just like you would in jiu-jitsu or karate or, let's say, girls in dance. You know, they get these corns on their feet. Um, wrestlers get the cauliflower ear. Um, you get football players that have concussion. They have back injuries. And so you really just have to train your body no matter what sport you're in, no matter what, um, gender you are to, um, adapt and work your body correctly. So you aren't receiving as many of those injuries and wearing protective gear definitely helps. But, yeah, haven't really seen a big issue with a lot of the, I know a lot of girl wrestlers from Mountain Crest has a lot of really, really great wrestlers. We took state one year in female wrestling. And it just, it really just plays to understanding your sport, if wrestling is your sport, whether you are a male or female, understanding the protective equipment that you need to wear, understanding how to maneuver your body. And you really can. avoid those injuries, and you really can't be very successful, no matter what sport you're in. You know, you just made Rod's Day. You should see the way he's looking at me right now. He is just laughing at me. He's mocking me. You know, thank you, Brittany, for this calls. I'm also too. So, I mean, I've wrestled my husband. He was in the military. Wow. Did you beat him? How you wrestle. Did you beat him? I gave him a black guy, but I think he won. Good for you. Brittany, I like you. Okay. You come a street cred. I like that. She gave her husband a black guy. I think that's street credit. That's just, because I was thinking of my head, but I didn't want to ask because I don't be rude. Like, Brittany, would you wrestle? Well, I should have asked her because she did. She did. She did. See, there are benefit. Getting kids out. You never win these. You never win these call in polls. I'm getting killed on this one. Yes, you are. 888-57080-10 on yourself. phone, dial pound 250, and say, hey, Rod, or leave us a message on our talkback line. Just download the Iheart radio app. More your calls and comments coming up on the Rod and Greg show. For you, our listeners, here at Mickey Couture, we have a lot of young ladies that are working very, very hard, helping customers. During the commercial break, we did a quick little poll inside the store, asking these young ladies, if given the opportunity, would they like to wrestle? And it was a resounding note. Not a resounding no. No, it was a resounding no. There was one young lady who boxes. Yeah, no. Well, she trains, and that's a good, I like that. I think the training is good. Two of the young ladies, but one of them was open-minded.

She said, I would consider her. She was just being nice to you. She's very polite. Well, apparently has become one of the fastest-growing sports in the country. We're talking about wrestling for girls, elementary school, middle school, high school, you name it. They're doing it. And we didn't realize there's as much that goes on here in the state of Utah. That is a surprise. It is a national story. And I did not know that here in the state of Utah, in our high schools, we have very successful. Yeah. Girls wrestling programs. Who knew? I did not know. All right. Your thoughts on this. Would you allow your daughter to wrestle? Mr. Hughes says no. No. But she can box, which does make a lot of sense. Look, yeah, no, the boxing, again, I like the training aspect of it. There are three minutes, focus pads, heavy bags, stuff like that. 888-57080-10. On your cell phone, dial pound 250 and say, hey, Rod, to the phones we go. Let's talk with David in Roy tonight here on the Rod and Greg Show. Hi, David. How are you? I'm good, thank you. And no, I would not let my daughter. get involved in any sport where there's contact with the skull because there's real structural differences between boys and girls and the risk is just higher for girls and I don't think it's worth it. There are a lot of other competitive sports they can get involved in, which is volleyball. soccer that's simply hold less risk and that's where I channel their competitive impulses towards. So David, do you think there's more risk in soccer than there would be in basketball or volleyball or any of those sports?

No, I think they're pretty close to the same. It's just the ones where you've got actual physical contact. We are throwing somebody to the mat or you're throwing punches at the, potentially the head. Yeah. Any risk of a serious fall. So I think basketball would have more risk because of the hard surface of the basketball court. For soccer, at least you've got some cushioning. Yeah, that's true. And you have to get to a certain level in soccer to be able to head a ball. Younger teams are not allowed to do so. David, you bring up a great point about just the difference between men and women and the structural difference. So I know that the tendons, ligaments, my daughter played soccer, and that there was prone, if you didn't have an off season, if these girls just played soccer all year long, they play indoor in the wintertime, outdoor in the springtime, summertime. The chances for knee injuries, ligaments, things like that were really, really high more so for girls than for boys. If you translate that into contact sports like wrestling or even boxing, I think Dave brought up some good points. I think I think I'm... I think he's brought me over. I think maybe even boxing, I think I might think twice. Well, I think, I'll go back to what I said earlier, Greg. I think any activity that gets kids off a couch, off a video game, doing something, working with a team, working individually, challenging yourself, getting knocked down, and having to get back up, I think are all good. Yeah, that's my opinion. If you can direct those of sports where they're not getting their noggin hit, I think it's good. But, yeah, no, I think. Look, sports brings out all of that. I think overcoming adversity is the life lesson and embracing adversity because it is inherent when you're trying to get something done. And so I think sports is a great way to introduce a young person to adversity without having a horrible life or something tragic they have to overcome. It's very important. Anything that gets kids active today, I'm in supportive. I am. Yeah. Well, you're not alone. Most of the callers were on your side. They were. Which is very foreign for me. I'm not used to that. You just hate losing. I know. All right. We are broadcasting live today from Minky Gautour here in Layton. They have seven locations now, including their brand new store up in Logan. And Lisa is here to tell us, tell guys. why they should come and shop at Minky Couture because we're lost souls. Well, first off, Minky Couture is the original luxury blanket. So anything else you gift her this holiday season is going to be a knockoff. So when you're giving a gift, right, like people want to know like, oh, wow, they cared. They got me the original, right? They're looking for that Minkie Couture label. They want to know, right? Because they know that that label, what it's associated with, right? The quality, the luxury, the... You know, all of that, that they have come to know, like, Minky Coutres. Lisa, you can have a really good point. There are knockoffs coming all over. I hear about these knockoffs a lot. What's the difference? I mean, what's the difference between someone who wants to be Minky Couture, but they aren't, but they're trying to be. Yes. And you're the original, the OG.

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More than one girl that has stepped away from it at a time was back when we had both the boys and the girls practicing together. And the girls just told me straight up right. They said, coach, we love this. But the boys smell so bad. We can't be in that room with them anymore. We wish. So right now, the big help to make the wrestling that I've worked with successful is separating the boys and the girls team and letting them have their own head coach and letting them go. And I know head coaches of boys. that have come out of retirement just to coach the girls because it's so fun and it's so great in an emerging sport. And the quality of the wrestling, I would say doubles every year. Wow. Al, by the sense of it, are you saying girls are better wrestlers than boys? Are they as good as boys when it comes to wrestling? Within their own gender. Well, within their own gender. Not yet. I believe that the girls' wrestling, the skill of the wrestling itself, is doubling every year. And they're catching up quickly. The thing with girls is that when you coach them, they listen. With boys, you've got to get through that stallion of, look, I've just got to be tougher than the other guy. But the girls will listen and their technique and quality. Hey, it's Ryan Sechrest here, and I have discovered a fun to escape from the daily grind Chumba Casino. Chumba Casino has hundreds of social casino-style games. It's all free to play anytime, anywhere, with daily bonuses. So get to Chumbacasino.com. No purchase necessary. VGW. Room. Boy, we're prohibited by law. See, terms and conditions, 21 plus. You know what your customers are doing right this second? The exact same thing you are. Listening to me. Which, let's be honest, is kind of flattering. But my point is, ads on IHeart Radio actually get heard. In the car, at the gym, on the couch, while people are walking their dogs. Who's a good boy? Who's a good boy? You're a good boy, that's right, you're a good boy. So why not make the next ad about you? Get started today. Call 844-844-Ehart or go to iHeartadvertising.com. That's 844-844-Ehart or iHeartadvertising.com. Well, we lost Al. Great feedback, Al. That is good. The only thing I would have asked is about injuries if there are more injuries with girls wrestling than with guys. But I loved Al's take. I'd tell you what, my eyes had been opened in this show today. I had no idea we had so many tough girls run around Utah. We have some tough girls in this state. I love it. I mean, I respect it. I respect it. But I am a father that would have shied against it. Still on the fence, I think. But Al made a very compelling argument there. Well, the most compelling argument is they won't wrestle the boys because the boys stink. I think that's hilarious. That's true. I've been not by the wrestling room as a guy smelling the other guy's going, you know what? It's a bit ripe in there. I don't know. Guys just stink. Yeah, it's true. You know, I still worry about the injuries, but.

Man, I'll really, really, I mean, actually, all of our callers have really been. All of our colors have been really good on this issue. All right. We've opened your eyes to this. It's been really good. All right. We've got another full hour of the Rod and great show broadcasting live from Miki Couture here in Layton. Stay with us. We'll tell you about more great deals coming up. Here at Minkie Gautour and on the blankets today, just say Rod 55 and you'll get 55% off. I'm Rod Arquette. I'm a citizen Greg Hughes. So it was a very enlightening last hour. I learned a lot about girls wrestling. Yeah, I didn't know it. I, uh... Yeah, it was good. We have good listeners. We have the vast experience and knowledge of our radio audience is amazing. I love it. Good people. Now, just want you bring up to speed, Utah lawmakers are starting their special session right about now, I would think. That's right. We thought about actually covering it a little more in depth today, but we think we'll get a better handle on it all tomorrow, and there will be some good things to report on what happens as they begin that special session right now. It's supposed to start at six. My experience was it was six-ish. I can't imagine they've already hit the gavel. But no, they're going to deal with this redistricting nightmare. They've got to move filing deadlines because you've got a judge that's put this private group in charge, left-of-center group in charge of drawing the congressional maps. You've got some other issues that are playing out there. There was a ballot measure that they were looking at to potentially, dealing with collective bargaining in unions, public unions, public employee unions. that bill's being rescinded and that that ballot measure is not going to be dealt with this this November. So there's that change of the dates for filing for office too, because typically it's the first week of January. Yeah, and folks, just so just FYI. Every other elected office whose map has not been drawn by. Judge Diana Gibson's favorite left of center group. Judge Diana Gibson. Dirty Diana. Dirty Diana. Their filing deadlines will remain the first week in January. It'll just be the congressional filings for candidacy that will be pushed out until probably March. Okay. Yeah. And if any news comes out this hour, we'll certainly let you know. But we are broadcasting from Minkie Couture, as we mentioned. We talked a couple of days ago, and I think it was last Friday, Greg. An article that Kurt Schlichter wrote in town hall. He's a good friend of ours. Talking about why is it that Democrats oppose everything that common sense fair-minded Americans like? Yeah. It's just, I mean, the normies. There's a war on normal.

Americans. Just everyday people. We're just, we're just the enemy somehow. Well, joining us on our newspaper line to talk more about that right now is Zachary Faria. He is a commentary fellow at the Washington Examiner, wrote about how Democrats treat illegal immigrants better than they do citizens. Zachary, thanks for joining us tonight. You wrote an article and shared some examples of what you mean by this. Explain what those examples are and tell that story. Yeah, the two big ones are the California Commercial Drivers License Issue, where California is issuing commercial drivers license to illegal immigrants to drive semi-trucks without doing any verification really of if they're even allowed to have them. And you see, obviously, we've had several high-profile cases of those truck drivers than killing drivers in illegal maneuvers on the roads. And then you have in Rikers Island in New York City, New York is refusing to honor ICE detainers for violent criminal illegal immigrants who are in Rikers Island, who are then released out under the streets. So let me ask you, is this Trump derangement syndrome where anything that Trump advocates for, be it secure borders, public safety, the Democrats have to recoil and be opposed to it? Or are these deeper than that? Are these agenda, is this a leftist agenda that's just we're seeing better today than we've seen in the past? I'm definitely inclined to think it's more of. Trump derangement and Republican derangement syndrome, where Democrats can't just come out and say, hey, we have some law-abiding illegal immigrants who, yeah, they came here illegally, but they're just trying to make a better life for themselves and for their families. Instead, they have to go 100% in the opposite direction and say, we oppose deporting anybody. So, no, you can't take an illegal immigrant criminal from Rikers Island and then deport him when a sentence is over. We're going to block that deportation. Really, it's just completely the other way. California, for example, passing numerous giveaways for illegal immigrants, including phone bill subsidies on the California taxpayer dime, they can't just say, hey, there's some illegal immigrants who maybe we want to try and get to stay here long term. It's we have to give them all this stuff. We have to protect them from being deported no matter what they do. Zachary, what is it? Someone wrote the other day raising this question about Democrats is they seem to be opposed to everything that fair-minded, common-sense Americans believe in. What is it with Democrats when they want to support everything that most Americans say, wait a minute, that's going a little too far? Tyler Reddick here from 2311 racing. The rush of racing, nothing beats it. But Chumba Casino comes close. Chumba's got fast spins, fun games, daily bonuses, and all the action you can handle. Now that's a ride. Ready to hit the throttle, get in the driver's seat, and head to chumbacasino.com. Let's Chumba. Sponsored by Chumba Casino. No purchase necessary. VGW Group, voidware prohibited by law, 21 plus, terms and conditions apply.

You know what your customers are doing right this second? The exact same thing you are, listening to me. Which, let's be honest, is kind of flattering. But my point is, ads on IHeart Radio actually get heard. In the car, at the gym, on the couch, while people are walking their dogs. Who's a good boy? Who's a good boy? You're a good boy, that's right, you're a good boy. So why not make the next ad about you? Get started today. Call 844-844-Ehart or go to IHeartadvertising.com. That's 844-844-Ehart or IHeartadvertising.com. Part of it is just they have no opposition coming at them from anyone in their own circle. You know, liberal media never pushes them on any of this stuff, so they inoculate themselves in this bubble, and they think everyone supports it. It's what you saw with the Biden administration, thinking that no one's going to really care that the border's wide open. That was the big New York Times piece that came out five years too late, was that the Biden administration thought this wasn't going to be a big political issue, and it turned out to be one. because Democrats don't have that sort of introspection coming at them because everyone in their circle agrees with them. So where does it go from here? I mean, we have more than two years left of Trump's term. He's had just a little over a year in office. Are we just going to see, you know, these narco terrorists become the darlings of the Democrat Party and the Maryland man who's the human and drug trafficker, you know, that's here illegally with the Trenda Aragua gang member? Are they just going to continue to be their poster children and who they bleed, their hearts bleed for going forward the rest of this term? Or does anything change before the midterms or after? I don't think there's going to be much change. What you're going to see is kind of the same as the lead-up to 2020, where Joe Biden presented himself as this more moderate voice. He's just coming in to lower the temperature, and he's not going to do anything crazy. And then he gets in office and all the ideologues and his administration start doing everything crazy. I think it's going to be a very similar playbook in 2028. You're going to see Democrats running around, kind of like how Gavin Newsom is running around trying to downplay transgender issues and everything. They're going to be doing the same thing on immigration. They're going to say that we have to. protect American citizens and all this stuff, and we have to moderate a little. And then when they get into office, they're just going to do the exact same thing that Biden did. So I think Democrats are kind of stuck in this holding pattern where they pretend to be moderate. They win an election. They get too radical. They lose an election, and it just keeps going on and on. But if someone like Gavin Newsom steps up and tries to portray himself, as you point out, Zachary, a moderate, can he even win the party's nomination now, knowing how far to the left is drifted? I think so because Gavin Newsom specifically has built himself sort of a reputation as the progressive warrior. The problem he's going to run into is the same problem Kamala Harris ran into last year, which is that Kamala Harris was so radical in her 2020 run for president that it followed her into 2024 and voters didn't buy when she was trying to put on this moderate facade. So that's kind of going to be the thing that's going to have to break Democrats as someone like Gavin Newsom tries the same thing.

and it breaks him the same way because voters already see how Gavin Newsom runs California, and they don't buy that it's going to be a more moderate presidential administration. No, I don't think it will be either. Zachary, thank you very much. Zachary Faria, Commentary Fellow at the Washington Examiner, Greg. And, you know, it's a good point. Here in America, I mean, many Americans are saying, wait a minute. You raised such a ruckus over these drug runners on this boat. You're speaking in their behalf. You're speaking on behalf of the Somalis who allegedly ripped off the American taxpayer to the tune of $8 billion. The Democrats are behind efforts like this. And you're always saying... Is something wrong with us? I don't get it. There's no end of the irony of who the Democrats are willing to spend political capital for and on behalf of. And it's never us. It's never the everyday people of this country. It's always, you know, the Maryland man. It's a human and, you know, drug trafficker. It's the cartels bringing in the poison and the fentanyl into the country. It just doesn't. Doesn't make sense. It doesn't. All right, we are broadcasting live today from Minky Couture. Lisa is back with us to tell about helping you get ready for the holidays, which are not that far away anymore. You know, this makes, I was thinking about this, Lisa, a lot of people are invited to Christmas parties. And, you know, they want to take along something to say thank you. A Minky Couture blanket is a perfect hostess gift. Oh, absolutely, right? There's no better way to say thank you for all your time in the kitchen and, you know, preparing this wonderful evening for us to enjoy. Then with a Minkees Cotor Blanket, and any time you gift a Minkee blanket, that person is going to think of you every time they wrap up in that blanket. They'll remember you and think, oh, wow, this is such a great gift, and you will be always remembered by them. You know, and there's always somebody, Lisa, on your list. And you have no idea what to get them. You kind of say, well, they have everything. Over the years, I've given them all this. What can I give them now that is unique? Boy, a gift from Mickey Couture, not just a blanket, but other things. What a great gift. Yes, absolutely. We've got, you know, our robes, the blankets, the tree skirts, all of our Christmas collection, our hugs collection, which is our most popular. I mean, we have something for everyone on your list. And the one thing that I think is very unique about a blanket is that it is universal, regardless of the age or gender, right? Like, a blanket is for everyone. And it's funny because we'll have wives who come in or husbands who come get them for their wives. And then the wives are back in getting one for their husbands because their husband just say, I don't need a blanket, end up taking their blanket. And it's like, they really do like their blankets. This is a witness from the congregation. You're absolutely right. Amen to that. Honestly, it is universal. And there is no one who's been a recipient of one of these beautiful making-gature blankets, the hug-me-back blankets, the ones that have universities on them.

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Utah lawmakers about somehow, and I don't know what form it takes, you being Speaker of the House, would know better than I, Greg, but I don't know if it's a resolution, some sort of document to give lawmakers a chance. to express on paper and in public vote condemning the redistricting plan. It's very simple. What is it? They're going to put that map in bill form as if it were a map, any of their congressional maps that they would draw. So you would have a bill, and it would have in the bill, and then it's gone, it would have the maps, it would have the exhibits, and they would vote if they were to vote it up or down, or they would, they are going, I believe, if we had the Senate president, Stuart Adams on the, program he said they were going to vote this they were going to put this bet this bill in front of their body in the house and senate and have a vote so it will look like any bill that would look to either pass or fail a congressional map and i believe you're going to hear many members of the house and senate stand up and condemn vote against and i bet you the votes are over two thirds against these these maps and put that into the Into the lexicon, into the public record. You know, these special sessions are part of a house, a printed house journal among the pages. Make sure for history's sake, they have voted affirmatively. They haven't just, you know, no one can say they just didn't do their job or they rent. affirmatively vote as a legislative branch these these maps down and I think that the debate will be important to listen to and I hope we have some good clips from that for tomorrow's show but I you just vote up and down it doesn't have to be resolution it just has to be the maps as you would as you would normally vote one that you would pass but you vote it down vote it down and you every Democrat will love it because they love a plus 24% Kamala Harris district in Utah give me a break but You're going to find that I think there'll be, that is, that makes a very strong statement when the state constitution says that the legislature will decide. And the only thing this legislature will have decided is that those are not the maps. Yes. That they. As far as that branch is concerned. Done. Then you go ahead and sort that out, executive branch and judiciary, because I think the legislative branch will have spoken loud. It's not their job to come by your solution. They didn't make the problem. The judiciary did. I'd say even the executive branch honoring the judge's unconstitutional actions is a problem. I'd throw, I'd just throw a... wrench right into the gears here if i were still speaker and i would just or if i were governor i'd just not i would not do it i just would not take i would not accept it and i've said this since the ruling came down a couple of weeks ago where i think detra hendricksson as lieutenant governor should have said to the judge i do not accept this map because it was not approved by the state legislature which clearly states it has to do in the legislature therefore i do not accept it and i think that would have thrown judge who is it

Diana Gibson. Dirty Diana. Dirty Diana. It would have thrown her for a loop. And last Friday, they made you have another appeal, and she said no again. Yes. I mean, she has dug in her heels so much on this, Greg. I don't know where we go from here. And the thing is, you could just say that the plain reading of the state constitution says that I should be receiving maps from a legislative branch. Yes. And I have not. Not a court. Not a court. So I don't accept the map from the judiciary. And I would just let that, I mean. Yeah. Look, we've had moments in this state. Even not that long ago when Obama shut down the federal government and they took Zion's National Park and they shut it down and you had all those people stranded along the road. I was in the legislature then. I was majority whip. The county attorney in Washington County and the county sheriff in Washington County called the governor, then Governor Herbert, and said, hey, we're just letting you know we're not actually asking for permission. We're coming with bolt cutters. We're opening Zion's National Park, and we're not letting these people be stuck. And what did the governor and the Obama administration have to do? They had to reverse engineer soft. concept of how they were going to let that be a legal action because they didn't want to have a standoff with Washington County Attorney and County Sheriff. Well, I think that if the executive branch said, nope. Yep. I just want to know what happens next after that because I think it's well within her right. It's well within the legislature's right to vote down these maps. I don't know. I think they should be pushing on this. I know everyone's trying. I have the legislature is trying very hard tonight and doing everything in their power. I just think that you don't have to... bend the knee to the, you're a separate and equal power. The executive branch, legislative branch, you don't have to bend the knee to the judiciary like this. Well, and we hope tomorrow, either we'll have some legislative leaders on the show reacting to this and where they go from here because they have come up with a roadmap as to how to address this. We'll have to see where it goes. Yes, but Dirty Diana has her heels dug in. She ain't moving. No, she's not. No, she's not moving. And the state Supreme Court, we'll see what they think. Right. That's a joke. All right, more coming up. It is the Rod and Greg. show on Utah's Talk Radio 105-9, KNRS broadcasting live tonight from Minky Couture. And this is it. Lisa said they're not offering any more specials outside of this of the show. They don't need to. It's Christmas. That's true. Everyone's going to start coming out of desperation because they waited too long. I would know. I kind of know that world. Yeah. It's the kind of the world I live in. I have time blindness. It's a disability and I need accommodations. Don't give me that. Yes. I'm disabled. You know, I'm just looking over there, collegiate blankets right next to us here. Those are good-looking blankets. You have it. You're rod 55. Yeah, they don't want. Well, it's a collegiate, collegiate thing. Yeah, but not for, you know.

Is it? Now that that hedge fund, I was going to say, now that hedge fund just bought half your school, that money is going to be twice the price. They got to make their money. They got to make money. Oh, you're going to get soaked by this hedge fund. I can't even imagine hedge fund in a college or university, let alone a state institution. I'm so confused by this. As soon as these guys get out of the special session, man, I got questions. Well, and we've got dig into it exactly what has the university basically said, here's our athletic department. It's all yours hedge fund. Is that basically what they've done? Is that basically what they've done? They have a ownership in the image, in the name, in the logo. Come on. And what I'm surprised at is some of my former colleagues, it was news to them. Yeah, they didn't even know about it. Now, if that's the case, I've got to tell you, they got out on a little bit of a thin limb, I think, unless the governor gave them a go-ahead nod and the legislative leaders did. I don't know. If I'm a lawmaker and I'm reading that today online, I don't think I'd like finding out that a state property was sold to a hedge fund. Yeah. I can't even say it out loud. It just sounds so surreal. Just laughing about it as well. Well, we want to go back to a conversation we had a little bit earlier with Utah Senator Mike Lee about this hearing before the Supreme Court yesterday. It involves a... A decision made by the Supreme Court 90 years ago. Yes. And it impacts the president's ability to fire heads of agencies. Yes. You know, and that's the case. This involves the firing of the FTC Commissioner. We spoke with Mike about it, and we wanted to bring in Ilya Josh Shapiro. He is Director of Constitutional Studies at the Manhattan Institute for this. Ilya, thank you very much for joining us. Will the President, or will the Supreme Court, do you think, down the road when this ruling is made, give the President a right to look at some of these agency leaders and say you're fired? Will it do so? Yeah, I think that's what they're going to do based on yesterday's argument and based on where they've been going for the last 15 years. In a series of cases, there have been enhancing the president's ability to appoint and remove and have control over these so-called independent agencies. And the whole idea of an independent agency is a constitutional malapropism. We only have three branches. So you've got to belong to one of them. If it's the executive branch and the president has to be able to. control who's in charge to be able to enforce his policies. You know, a sword can cut both ways. You have a Democrat elected president, they will take these agencies and fire them all and put their own people in. But I suspect the bureaucracy kind of leans that way anyway. I don't know that it's as much of a double-edged sword as some might describe. Ready to put a little spin on your day? Then check out Chumba Casino's new online social casino game, Ryan Seacrest 10K Waves. It's free and packed with 10,000 ways to play. Only at ChambaCasino. No purchase necessary. VGW Group, void where prohibited by law, CTs and Cs, 21 Plus, sponsored by Chumpa Casino. You know what your customers are doing right this second? The exact same thing you are. Listening to me, which, let's be honest, is kind of flattering.

But my point is, ads on IHeart Radio actually get heard. In the car, at the gym, on the couch, while people are walking their dogs. Who's a good boy? Who's a good boy? You're a good boy, that's right, you're a good boy. So why not make the next ad about you? Get started today. Call 844-844-Ehart or go to IHeartadvertising.com. That's 844-844-Ehart or IHeartadvertising.com. Well, it's true. I mean, you're enhancing presidential authority, regardless of who's in the White House, obviously, and there will be Democrats in the White House again. There will be non-Trump Republicans, you know, that's the way the wheel turns. But the issue of the bureaucracy is slightly different, and there were, there has been, there's still ongoing litigation about what a president can do with respect to non-political appointees, the so-called career staff. which are subject to civil service protections of various kinds. That's sort of what's sometimes called the deep state is a slightly different issue than control over these political appointees and the ones who are actually running the agencies. You know, if the court rules in favor of the president and his argument, and it appears they may be as a result of the questions that were asked yesterday and the comments being made, what are some of the broad implications of this if, in fact, they rule in favor of what the president wants to do? Well, it means that the agencies will be part more directed than that happened, part of executive branch decision making. So just like the education department or the energy department does what the president wants is a part of one unified administration, so will the FCC, the FTC, all of these alphabet agencies, which, you know, whoever's in the majority, because they're all structured. so that there's, you know, three to two Republicans versus Democrats, what have you, and they kind of shift their power as new presidents form and new appointments are made. But now they'll be more directly part of the administration. And so who's headed to direct them will be just as important and just as political as the nomination of cabinet secretaries. So why did, so this is a 90 year standing Supreme Court ruling that's being looked at now. Why hasn't it caught the attention of any administration or the Supreme Court up until now? Is it just been abused to a new level? Is this something that's long overdue that should have been addressed? Why now? I think it is long overdue. That 90-year-old president, called Humphreys Executor, came in the context of the Federal Trade Commission, the same agency, the FTC, that's that issue now. That was under FDR. And that agency and other agencies were very different animals at that time, that they were not necessarily exercising executive power. They were.

legislating, they were acting as judges, which is the reason why the Supreme Court back then said that the executive can't have full control. They're exercising quasi-legislative power, things like that. The administrative state, the big bureaucracy, has grown into a much different animal than it was back then. And so it's just come to a point where, as part of a broader series of rulings, to push back on the administrative state. We have the overturning of Chevron deference, for example, the deference that judges used to pay to the interpretations of agency heads of their operative statutes. And this is part and parcel of that, that the court wants to, the originalists, the justices that care about the original meaning of constitutional provisions, want to rebalance and reinforce separation of power so that there's accountability. Any guess as to what Donald Trump and future presidents may do if they have this ruling now in their hip pocket? What do you see happening down the road here? Well, every president will replace the heads of these agencies. There's Securities and Exchange Commission, the National Labor Relations Board, all of these things. So they'll be, as I said, more directly connected to presidential agenda making. And just as Trump has done this term, he didn't do it as much his first term, but replacing people who are on political appointees. who were there before with his own more loyal appointees. And so we'll have shifts in those agencies at the leadership level, just as we've had shifts every four years of the political appointees in the cabinet departments. So I think four years goes fast. We're already past a year in the president's first, the second administration, and we have midterms coming up. Decision will come, I guess what? Does it come in May or June? And then how long do you think until the president is able to implement? Assuming, I don't want to count my eggs, chickens before their hatch, but if he were to see a ruling go his way on this, how long until he can implement that and still have a term left to serve? Well, he already has been, in a sense, you know, he's the procedural posture of this particular case, the removal of this FTC commissioner. And there are others with other agencies. The litigation is sort of paused in the president's favor at the moment. So assuming this goes, as it's predicted to go, as we've just been discussing, the president's way. then those people that he's fired will remain fired. I don't know if he has anybody else on the chopping block that he hasn't gotten to yet. So it might not directly affect what he's doing because he's been doing it. It's just that he's the one that's now that this has gotten to the Supreme Court. Other presidents in recent terms probably decided they didn't want the legal or the political fight, but Trump has taken it on.

Ilya, thank you for joining us. Ilya Josh Shapiro, Director of Constitutional Studies at the Manhattan Institute, and I bet Donald Trump has a list of heads of various agencies he'd like to get rid of. Well, look, it's the man's brand. You're fired. I mean, the man knows how to do this. This is in his wheelhouse. He can't wait. He can't wait to go, you're fired. Yep. Oh, that's going to be said a few times. I need to wait. You think so. All right, we have been broadcasting today here on Minky Couture and Layton. Time always flies. when we're here because we have so much fun Lisa and Lisa is back with us to talk about these wonderful blankets and you were saying just a second ago that for some people this is almost a destination for them because they want to come here and kind of buy as many blankets as they can. Yeah, it really is a destination shopping experience, right? And we want to make sure that when you visit one of our stores, that's exactly what you have is an experience, right? We want you to feel valued and cared and appreciated, and our sales associates are here to help walk you through that shopping experience because shopping for a minkie-cature blanket, it can... Be overwhelming. You know, we have so many varieties and sizes and store. You have a few. And it's like, oh, where do I even begin? And our sales associates are here ready to help you find the perfect gift for your loved ones this holiday season. So today we saw a listener come in and purchased 13. And needed some assistance on the way. Do you have a record on how many have come in and how many blankets? Can you think? I didn't prepare you for this question. No. Oh, wow. 13 seemed like a high number. 13's a pretty good number. Yeah, yes, especially like tonight. That was the record for the night. That guy holds it for, yeah, for sure for the night. I'm thinking like. Maybe for the week. I don't. Wow. That seems like a tall order. But I'm telling you, he's got 13 people very, very happy. Yeah. We won't say his name because we don't want to give away anyone. Now, you have different sizes. What's the most popular size? Is it the big one? The grande is it? Our grande is a 5 by 7, so 5 feet by 7 feet. Okay. And then our monster size is a five by six, so five feet by six feet. Our monster size is probably the most popular. But then at the holidays, it's, you kind of, I feel like, Grande Monster Adult. It's all dependent upon, like, budget. And that's what's great about Minkicator, right? Like, we have a gift for every budget. So wherever you're, you know, shopping for, whoever you're shopping you for. We can, you know, you can find a gift here at Minky Couture within that budget. I can tell you how many times now you go to a movie and they have those relaxed chairs that people enjoy and they're bringing a blanket. And I can tell the Minky Blanket. Yes, you can spot them. You can spot them. They just curl up in the movie theater and watch a movie. Yeah. With a Minky Gauter blanket. Everyone wants to take that comfort of Minky Couture with them. All right. Before we sign off, what's the offer tonight? And it's good through the weekend, right? Good through the weekend, yes. So our time here is coming to an end, but the savings will continue through the rest of the weeks.

So you haven't missed anything, but the discount code is Rod 55, and it will give you 55% off any full-priced blankets in store or online. Any location? Any store location. Yep. And I want people to think about that. You've just described the different size blankets that can meet different budget. 55% off really helps with that, like, incredibly. Everything becomes affordable when you're talking 55% off. Yeah, it's like you're getting better than two for one. with that, you know what I mean? Lisa, it's been great. Yes, thank you so much. It's been great to have you guys. Merry Christmas to you. You guys are great. It's always fun. Have a good holiday. All right. All right. Final thoughts coming up on the Rod and Greg show and Utah's Talk Radio 105.9, KNRS. Radio 105.9 KNRS. And everywhere on the I heart radio app, I'm Citizen Greg Hughes. And I'm Rod Arcan. It's just been great today. It's always fun being here of Minkie Kotur with our wonderful listeners and the great people who work here. I mean, you talk about an American success story. Andy has been able to do is pretty amazing. It is. It's a phenomenal operation. And they are just, the number of stores they have. And then when you get online and you see how many products are offering all over. And it is. It's just, it's great. And it is the OG of blankets in terms of Uber comfort. There's been some copycats since. Yes. Couture got on the scene, but they are the original and the best. It's fun. It's fun. A couple of stories before we wrap up, Greg, tonight. I don't know what gets into some American people, okay? Because there's this story out of Vermont where a school district there hoisted a Somali flag. on Friday as Democrats around the country defended Somali migrants right next to the American flag with everything that's going on with the Somali immigrants in this country and the alleged fraud that has taken place. Why does the school district feel it needs to do this? We're talking billions of dollars. There's no shame in it. There's no shame. In fact, the reason they're doing it is because... It helps perpetuate how they get away with this fraud. If you want to complain about what's happened and how pervasive it is within that community in Minnesota, by the way, then you're a racist. And you don't, like Senator John Curtis says, you just don't love as much as he does. You don't hug as much as he does. You don't wake up every day and think, how can I be there for an immigrant as much as he does? That's true. That's all this is about. It's just about... how you treat everyone and that that's the whole there's no complexity to the issue that's just all it is yeah you just get the virtue signal yeah and everything's solved yeah you know uh the media the regime media as you like to call them yes in this country are doing everything they can to discredit donald trump and anybody on his cabinet would you agree a hundred percent story out today he's looked getting rid of or thinking about getting rid of Kristi Noem Homeland Security Secretary, and possibly replacing her with Glenn Youngkin, who will be out of a job as of January. No longer can be governor of Virginia. It will be interesting. I've heard some chatter about the personality clash between Kristi Noem and Tom Homan. Yeah, I've heard same thing.

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