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Well, I just think if you list of the speech, and I invite you all of you to do that, but I think he is so in sync with the president, and they both see the same thing, Greg, and that is so important. What he told the European leaders over the weekend, look at, we're concerned about the decline of Western civilization. Yes. And we're seen it in Europe. And he cited, you know, mass migration. Loss of free speech. I mean, it's going the way. The economy, the dependence on a green economy, it's not working. It says your decline could lead to our decline, and we do not want that. So do we like NATO? Do we like the UN? We can work with them, but they need to be reformed. And that's all he's saying. He said, we don't want to get rid of this. When have we heard this? Yeah. We've never heard this. We've, we've, we've, we've, there's been saber rattling, rightly so. But I don't know that you've ever, I've not heard someone strike a tone of, not a conciliation, but of a, of a plea for unity. Yeah. And for common ground at the same time saying, just look at what's going on around here. I just thought it was a, again, it was a. Powerful, powerful speech. Well, and what is frightening about that, of course, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez made headlines by being stupid over there. But what's frightening about, I bet most of those European leaders agreed with what she was saying and not with what Marco Rubio was saying. And I'll tell you what. If that's the case, folks. They had a whole lot of trouble lying ahead. All right, we'll talk about that. We've got a lot to get to. We wanted to bring up a couple of things, really tragic stories. The tragic story of what happened in Las Vegas with this 11-year-old girl and her mother. Down there for a big cheerleading competition, they have them all the time down there, soccer to runs, football tournaments, you name it down in Vegas. And she killed her daughter and then turned the gun on herself. And, you know, I understand apparently there was a custody battle with her ex-husband over who has custody of the little 11-year-old. But, Greg, how do you respond to a story like that? I didn't say it's tragic. You know, there isn't. I mean, I came across that as a first missing. It was a missing person. They were talking about the day they had not shown up for the competition. And within about four to five hours later, there was the report that... They'd been found in their hotel room, yeah. So... Very, very sad story. And, you know, one that I think people were looking at. It was a big deal. And then sadly, we found out what happened there. But, you know, there's obviously a lot that goes on prior to news like that happening. And I just, I wish that, just I don't know what you say to a family when they've been through something like that. And then you have the situation of Rhode Island. When are we going to come to realize, Greg, that there's a serious problem? I've got a list here, Greg. I mean, you look at that. Trump shooter. non-binary, Minnesota school shooter, trans, Nashville shooter, trans, Colorado Spring shooter, trans, non-binary, Aberdeen shooter, trans Denver school shooter, trans Iowa school shooter. I mean, you know, this is a trend, but, you know, for crying out loud folks, we've got a, not all trans people are violent the way these people have been, but we've got a problem in this country and nobody's willing to talk about it. Well, I don't know if you've noticed, but there's a new term.

that they're using to try and describe. It's not trans. They're saying, I've got to find it. I think it's a person who goes by two names. Oh, that's code. That's how they're describing it now. Yes. It's a code for, you know, for transgender. They don't want to say transgender because they don't want you to, you know, to make that, you know, to worry that people that have been chemically castrated now are becoming more and more violent, which I actually think. Watch the pattern recognition here. I think pattern recognition, you're going to see people whose life trajectory was forever altered and it's not going over well. There are people choosing violence in these circumstances. And the media is leading the way on this. Even the New York Times and their coverage of this story could never mention anything about a transgender man going after it. I mean, even the New York Times avoided any reference whatsoever to this. Well, they said New York Times, I'm going to read it. At a news conference on Monday night, the chief said the shooter was born in 1969 and went by two different names. Yeah. Okay. How do you know which one to call them? Yeah, well. Is it again, shot in the dark, so to speak? That's them trying to like, again, say it without saying it. So went by two different names is now the new term terminology. And that was another divorce issue where they're why. He wanted to continue his path toward being a female. And otherwise said, this marriage isn't going to work if you're going down to the direction. Really? You think? And she filed for divorce and he loses it. Yeah, and that's another 80-20 issue. I mean, there's not, Democrats don't support the Democrats' position on that. And overwhelming, you know, polls that are showing that, whether it's boys playing girls' sports or minors being put through those gender-altering surgeries. Nobody's, no one. Normies in America are not for this. It's not even political, really. It's just, nah. And the Democrats continue to defend it. That's right. Makes a lot of sense. All right, we have got a lot to get to today. Always great to be with you on this Tuesday afternoon. And we come back from a 3D weekend to honor the presidents of the United States on President's Day, especially George Washington and Abraham Lincoln. Big week, I think, for the Save America Act. This is a bill being sponsored by Utah Senator Mike Lee. The president is behind this effort. I noticed Senator Lee. Greg was all over the media this weekend talking about what needs to be done. it's going to be interesting to see how this all folds out. It will be. I think it's an important measure. I think you need to get it done. I think the president over the weekend announced that he would require by executive order or something that the ID required whether this passed or not. But I think... Majority Leader soon said that this would be brought to the floor. So I think it's moving forward. Well, joining us on our newsmaker line to talk more about this is Matt Germmer. He's policy director in governance at the R Street Institute. He wrote about this today. Matt, how are you? Welcome to the Rod and Greg Show. Thanks so much for joining us.

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really examine this so it can stand up to constitutional muster but we've talked to senator Mike Lee he's a good friend of the program and he feels constitutionally it's very strong I think constitutionally there are going to be some challenges that will be invited. Again, I think even there's some strong arguments to say it holds up. But looking for example at the sections related to voter ID, again, a policy that I think would be wise for states to take forward, even if the federal government doesn't act on it. You know, the way that it's drafted now, it's distinct from where I live. I live in North Carolina. We've got voter ID. We also try to make sure that for folks who don't have access to an ID, for let's say cost reasons, that there is a provision for them to go out and be able to get a free of charge, qualifying identification. The way this bill is written doesn't require that of states. And so I could very kind of easily see a group out there saying that there's a challenge on those grounds as an example. And I'm not saying that I would uphold or sustain that kind of challenge, but I expect those kinds of challenges to come. You know, one of the things that I've heard a lot is that, you know, you've got to bring your birth certificate to the bowling place or a passport for only 50% of people have a passport. Now, you point out, I believe, accurately, and I didn't know this for a while, but this was pointed out by one of our listeners, that the real ID compliant driver's license, which 50, all 50 states now have, including Utah. It does not verify. It does for me. I mean, I had to have a, I had to either have a passport or a birth certificate to have the real ID gold star on my, on my driver's license. But you point out that it actually signifies lawful presence, which means that you could have someone with a temporary residence card, someone who is here legally, but is not necessarily a citizen. So the real ID, you can't assume that means citizenship. But to the extent that some states only let you just check a box with penalty of perjury if found wrong, and some of the easier, maybe effortless ways that people that are not even here as a resident legally can vote, isn't the real ID a pretty powerful way to really maybe reduce fraud and make sure that people that live here actually are voting? Yeah, I think you're on to something here. The real ID process, as you note, only confirms lawful presence that you are here in this country legally. And that could be as a citizen. It could also be as a permanent resident, a green card holder or it could be, as you noted, a visa holder, someone here temporarily. All of those folks, if they've got the documentation, can go get a real ID. The challenge in this case is that just showing that ID doesn't verify citizenship. But what it does indicate is the government should have in a database. You know, in their record saying that they know that you've presented your birth certificate. And one of the suggestions I have for this bill is to shift a lot of that burden of verifying citizenship from the voter to those databases that already exist. The government already has this information. Let's lean on them to do the work rather than putting the burden on every one of us to come forward with a passport or a birth certificate. Every time we register to vote, you know, you move from one county to another.

You got to update your voter registration. Do I need to go dig out my birth certificate from a folder when the state should already know? Yeah. It's the broader point. But to the, uh, the question you have around, uh, you know, making sure that folks are here legally and that they, you know, that they could vote that checkbox that you noted. That's actually under federal law. There's something called the National Voter Registration Act. And under that national law, uh, there's a form that every state accepts for voter registration that only requires a checkbox. Now, this is, I'm glad, again, I'm glad that this bill is looking into these questions and trying to update the National Border Registration Act. But, again, I want to make sure this is done well and that it stands up in the long term. Matt, a question I have for you. I understand what you're saying about maybe slow it down or examine this a little bit more. But my concern is this, that if we don't do something now. We could have a democratically controlled House, maybe a Senate next year, and nothing will ever be done in this regard until the Republicans get back in power. That's why I think it needs to be done now. Is my fear warranted? You know, I think that's a fair point. I don't think Democrats will have any interest in moving this forward. And so maybe it might be more specific to my point. I don't know that I want this to be slowed down such that it doesn't pass through Congress this year. I just think that they would really benefit from that schoolhouse rock approach to lawmaking, introduce the bill, hold some hearings, take some feedback from the local county officials who are going to have to implement this, make some amendments, pass it out of committee, bring it to the floor, and then send it to the other chamber and do it again. I think that that process is what the founders had in mind. I'd like to see them do that here. And along those lines, you know, if we want to spend the moment to talk about it, the challenge of getting through the Senate is also going to be present here. It's probably important for listeners to know. This is one of those ideas that's going to need either a super majority in the Senate to move it through or the Republicans could kind of call the Democrats' bluff, make them talk to filibuster. The talking filibuster. The blue in the face. And then take the vote. I like that. Yeah, I'd love to see a few Democrats blue in the face. Matt, great conversation. Thanks for joining us tonight. Thank you for having me on. Thanks a lot. All right. That's Matt Jermmer. He is a policy director at R Street Institute. And we need to mention too, Greg, forgot to mention this. Republicans here in the state got the signatures on Prop 40. Yes. I was really, really worried about that. Oh, both you and I, we're both leaving on Friday going, good luck on this one, guys. We're behind you, but I don't know if you can get this done. No, and there's some interesting stories that. Yeah, we'll talk about that. Yeah, it happened over the weekend we can discuss as well. A little bit later. All right, more coming up. It is the Tuesday edition of Rod and Greg with you on Utah's Talk Radio 105.9, K&RS. You realize you're feeding the coffers of California by going down there? I know. And spending money. I realize. All that tax money that you're spending. And, you know, their gas is like almost six bucks a gallon still. Yeah. Yeah. Welcome to California. And I hear it's going to only go up from there. Yeah, because they run that place so well. Yeah. Well, they're now importing their oil from, what is it, the Bahamas? I'm sure that's cost. That's the most ridiculous thing in the world. Never mind having refineries on ours. Why would we ever do that? Just ship it from the Bahamas and just everybody.

Go through the Panama Canal up the coast. It's insanity. It really is. It is just nutty. Well, speaking of nutty, Gavin Newsom. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, we're in Munich for the Munich Security Conference this weekend. John Daly here. You know what day it is? Neither do I. I live life daily. That's why I only spend on Moto Casino. Moto's got daily free bonuses, daily tournaments, new slots added daily. And the best part, guaranteed daily jackpots. You can't beat that. So today's the day you're gripping to spend it with me on Moto. America's Social Casino. Play for free on Moto.us. Moto Casino, American Social Casino. She just, I don't know where she was educated, but boy, does she need help? And then Hillary was there, and Hillary got into a rather interesting discussion with a diplomat from Czech, the Czech Republic. And boy, did that turn out to be an interesting thing. And joining us on our newsmaker line to talk more about that. Is Tim O'Brien, a contributor at PJ Media? Tim, how are you? Welcome to the Rod and Greg Show. I'm great, and thank you for having me again. It's good to be on. I tell you what, Tim, Hillary sure did put on a performance again, didn't she? You have to watch it, too. It's not just what she said. Her body language speaks loudly. Oh, her facial expressions during that confrontation with a Czech diplomat are amazing, Tim. The funniest thing about it was watching him. He looked like he was walking on eggshells, but he refused to back down, but he could feel the heat coming from her. And it just, it was, it was funny. It really was. I mean, what did he say? I know you're nervous. I know this makes you nervous. She is just fundamentally not used to anybody challenging her. I mean, she must sit at the echo chamber that she has lived in. for decades. It just must be shocking to her to have anyone question her premise or what she's used to people just, you know, just falling over themselves saying that she's so smart. And so the people she's usually criticizing or far, far away, she's sitting right next to a person that says, you've gone too far. And, you know, the policies are too radical. She's, I found her to be stunned by it and angry. I thought her body language was pretty rough. Does she ever, I guess my question to you is. Is she going to get more of that or is she going to appear less because people are more willing to challenge her? I think the answer is probably what you already feel and that is she'll get more of it. And there's a reason there was somebody not in the room who I think had a big role in that and that is the Trump administration. And what I mean by that is. we don't see in the American media, the legacy media. We don't see the pushback like he gave her. And I think when you see first off a generational thing, that was a younger guy. He was not in Hillary's generation. So he didn't respect her or know the way he was supposed to respect her the way she's used to. That's one. He was from Europe. That's another. He was from a small country, which she probably thinks, who are you? But I think the thing that

struck me is you can see that people who don't see the American legacy media no longer see that that intimidation from Hillary Clinton and from even people like Obama. The sheen has worn off of those people. And you only see it if you're an American when you see these people from other countries. push against Hillary, and that's why I do think she's going to see more out that. You know, Tim, Greg mentioned this just a moment ago, but isn't this an indictment almost to the legacy media? I mean, she actually faced a pretty tough question from this Czech diplomat. Rarely does she get tough questions like that from the legacy media who simply fawn all over this woman? I mean, isn't this a bit of an indictment on the legacy media in this country? Do we already know that? It is an indictment. It's a huge indictment of the media, and it's something we're so used to. She's treated like a queen, really, and she always was. And that's why I think I came up with that idea for that article you guys saw of her classic meltdowns, because she has a history of just losing it in public. And I think people have kowtowl to that. I think it's an indictment of the media because they treated her with such kid gloves that she doesn't know how to deal with it. And that we're so surprised when we really shouldn't be because we look at any Republican, they get treated every day the way the media is supposed to treat people, and that is challenged them. And it's amazing to me that Hillary can't stand up to that. You know, and I think that you, and I hadn't picked this up, but the age of the diplomat, where he didn't live through this time where she was, you know, everything she said was you're supposed to just kowtow. When he is trying to make his point about how they've gone, how they went too far, and she just starts to, just interrupts him. It says, is that, does that, does that, uh, justify the selling out of the people of Ukraine or what you know that there's two genders or whatever you're worried about she just starts to try to demean him and he just calm and the moderator even takes the diplomat side and says let him answer the question and he says can i please finish my point i'm sorry that this makes you nervous i mean what a beautiful retort i mean i i don't think i've ever seen it i i do think it's something that you're seeing and i think you're right i think it's the age where you know they didn't have to bend the knee to these clintons and so they're not or the obamas and so i don't think you're going to see that going forward again will that just make her more adamant to to scream or shriek more or does she finally go away i just i want you to tell me she's going to go away will you just tell me that is there any chance that was hillary's get off my lawn moment i think

She said, get off my lawn, and the whole world looked at her like they do that guy in the front of his grass and get off my lawn. I think, I think, you know, this is, I guess we can enjoy this. This is the beginning of the end of her public life for us, because once someone does something like that, I, you know, there's no force field for her anymore. She's going to have to prepare for that almost every time she goes out now, I think. Yeah, well, we can only hope. Tim, great conversation, great article today. Appreciate it. Great talking to you. Thank you. All right. A contributor to PJ Media, Tim O'Brien, joining us here on The Rod and Greg Show. And when we come back, we'll let you hear this exchange. If you hadn't heard this exchange yet between the Czech diplomat and Hillary, you'll enjoy it. Oh, it's good. We could just put it on a loop for the rest of the show. I just love it so much. All right, it is the Rod and Greg show here on Utah's Talk Radio, 1059, K&RS, the Hillary Meltdown in Europe at the Munich Security Conference. where there was a young diplomat from Czech and he was just being, hey, look, folks, we think you've gone too far. Listen to this exchange and how it kind of set her off. Well, first, I think you really don't like him. You know, that is absolutely true, but I really, not. Not only do I not like him, I don't like him because of what he's doing to the United States and the world, and I think you should take a hard look at it if you think that there is something good that will come out of it. I think what I think Trump is doing in America. I think it is reaction, reaction, reaction, reaction for something that, for some policies that really went too far, too far from the regular people. to far from reality so you know we we saw the cancel culture that's that we saw the the woke revolution we we don't i don't agree with the gender revolution the climate alarmism which gender women have their rights no let let let peter go on i think there are two genders so but but some of some of us some of us think that there is more than one or more than two sorry more than two gender i think there is male and female, and the rest probably is a social construct. So this is something that went too far. Do you hear her constantly interrupting him? There's a word I could use to describe her, but it starts with a B. There's more there. Well, did he say, can I continue speaking? And he goes, I know this makes you nervous. Yeah. And I just think that she's not used to that, and she should get more used to it. I think more and more people are going to. They're just, they are just on the wrong side of history on this. They don't have, it's why when you watch that, you understand why they had open borders for four years and want no ID to vote. You understand why, because they do not have the American people with them. You know, you can do all the generic balloting for midterms you want saying Republican versus Democrat. And they might, if you're mad at Republicans, it's easy to say Democrat. But when you look at what they're espousing and how that, that, that, that, that they're base and how left they are.

how they're demanding compliance. They're demanding fidelity to their radical issues. What red-blooded, normal Americans going to vote for that? I don't think they've got the votes. Unfortunately, some will. And some honestly believe it. And maybe we'll talk about this tomorrow. Hopefully get an interview on this tomorrow, but someone wrote a terrific article on why they won't moderate. Why they won't become more moderate in what they're doing? If they lose a good election, if they lose a midterm that they're supposed to win, they're going to turn into a bunch of John Fetterman's. John Fetterman's the only logical Democrat right now, and I can't believe those words just came out of my mouth, but it's true. When we come back, they did it, and if you signed the petition over the weekend for Prop 4, were you intimidated? We'll talk about some of the stories we've been hearing next. Congressman Fine, he's like drawing a bright line on this protecting the dogs. this is another this might be 99% to 1% apparently um muslim community finds dogs to be dirty and offensive and an act of aggression and if you get if they have dogs around them uh they will kill them and they actually some of the Zohran Mamdani's aides and as a new york city mayor include uh advisors who think that it should not be legal for dogs to live in homes. It's unfit for a dog to live in a home because they're just dirty animals. I want to know who really thinks. I mean, the way you treat people, there's a debate that goes on in America. If you beat up dogs, man, I'm telling you what. I think every American comes out in support and defense of their dog. Yeah. I don't think they're going to win that one. Yeah. Well, if you haven't heard yet, Greg gave you a little background on this, but the woman who is calling for this is a pro-Hamas activist, okay? And she's basically saying that Zohran Mamdani is going to ban dogs in New York City just because one of his prominent supporters is pushing for it. Apparently, right? Now, add this, Greg, on top of what is going on in New York City, and E. Ray played this for me earlier today. Zohran Mamdani has already made significant moves to Islamist New York, including blasting the Islamic call to prayer five times a day throughout New York City. Okay. All right, New York City. There you go. New York City. Get what you voted for. Yeah. That's... You know, I don't, I'm not thrilled with that, but man, it's the dogs you get under my skin real quick. You try to mess with my dog. Oh, I love my dog. Well, most Americans do. I mean, dogs are another member of the family. You can start, you had what, two or three at one time? I had three dogs, sumo, tank. two little dogs and then ruby who's a is more of a larger dog more it's kind of a mixed breed but kind of looks like a i don't know a yorkshire now my bull terrier kind of dog she's a she's a sweetheart she doesn't know that she looks scary she thinks she's pretty but my three dogs but now my one dog i love so if someone picks on your dog look out yeah you better watch out man you saw the movie john Steve Witkoff it all started with a dog okay they killed his dog

And there are four movies afterwards after they killed his dog, rightly so. So you mess with some, you mess with a man's dog. And I'll tell you what, you mess with Queen Bee's dogs. You're going, you're barking up the wrong tree. Well, let me tell you what. This is what's going on in New York. I mean, for her to even suggest this is just nutty. She obviously doesn't understand Americans' relationships with their dogs. Yeah, it's a... She's saying anything about cats? No. I don't think so. It's just the dogs. Yeah. Cats are... Don't go there. Unless it's a Garfield, the cat, I don't know. You'll hear from cat lovers. I guess. You better be careful. I'm not a cat lover, but I still wouldn't want to mess them with the cats. No, don't leave the cats alone. But the dogs? Yeah. Dogs have personality. Yeah, they do. They're moody. They're moody. They're moody. They're moody. We didn't think they could do it. Is that a fair statement? I did. I was very skeptical. Not in a negative way. I really, really, really wanted this to happen, but I was worried. I really was. On Friday, we had Rob Axton, who's chairman of the Utah Republican Party, making one final push. And I think he said on Friday, they needed 50,000 more signatures to qualify this anti-Prop 4 vote to get it on the ballot, right? And you and I looked at each year and said, and then we looked on the website. that they had set up. And there weren't that many locations. We were sharing that website. But I think there was a strategy there. Yes, it turns out. So we were sharing that. We had Rob on the show, as you've mentioned, and we did share the website. And when we pulled up the website, it looked like your opportunities to sign the ballot on Saturday. They were very, very limited. It was only on Friday showing one site on Saturday where you could sign. It was in Draper. And we thought to ourselves, if you're trying to find that final push, this seems limited in scope. Okay, we just got done sharing the email address to look it up and you would think that you would have more. Well, when I woke up Saturday and I saw on social media, I saw probably 10 spots that you could go and sign. And I don't know if that was Sully County alone or if that was Longuasa Trump, but there was a lot, lot, lot more than what we're on the website on Friday. You ain't heard about Modo Casino? Moto has real Vegas slots. Any game you can find on the floor in Vegas, you can play it on Moto. I like my slots hot. Moto's free to play, like food stamps, in line at the grocery store, at a funeral, in traffic. Keep your eyes on the road. Hop on Moto Casino. Moto Casino got jackpots that are bigger than my belly. Moto, America's Hot is free to play social casino. Download the Moto Casino app today. Moto Casino Board were prohibited and purchase necessary visit moto.us for more details.

Turns out that there were organized protests that were organized to try and intimidate and to compel people not to sign the petition. There were bullhorns. There was heckling. They wanted to see the person who decided that would go through this gauntlet of people yelling at them to sign. They wanted to see their personal information so people that were doing the signature gathering were creating a circle. to keep the people that were protesting from video recording the names and addresses of those that were signing. Are you kidding me? No, this was really going on this weekend. They were looking to try and docks the people that were signing. If they went through this gauntlet and they still wanted to sign, they were looking for ways to intimidate them. And so it makes sense to me now that they didn't give the heads up to all the protests of where all those protests would be so they wouldn't be met with all of that. then over the weekend. And I think that's true. Clearly that strategy works. Well, I think it did great another example of that. My wife said to me Saturday morning, I need to sign the petition. Where do I do so? And I said, well, there are only certain places to go, right? She went online. I said, check this out. And I think it was the Davis County Library. They're in Caysville where you could go by. And it wasn't there the night before. And it wasn't there the night before. So I think a rob or whoever helped out on this effort had a sense. that we better not put out too much of this information because there's better boundaries, Mormon women for ethical government, league of voters, whoever is behind all of this, Greg, very well organized, and they will get out and intimidate the daylights out of you not to sign this. Well, you just take some inventory here. We've never seen such intimidation. You talk about the Democrats and Jim Crow 2.0. Who on earth? has surrounded a signing a place to sign these you know to put your signature for you know the signature gather and have people with bullhorns and people trying to verbally accost you to get you to not sign and then there's a portion of the law that allows for people to take their names off if they felt like they were given false information well let me tell you what the the left is saying about First, better boundaries was better Democrat boundaries. And we know that now because the 24% plus Kamala Harris District, they drew, proves that's exactly what they meant. But what they're telling people that have signed it, they look up because it's a public record of those that have signed, and they're saying, did you know that you were tricked into supporting more gerrymandering? And they go, well, I don't want gerrymandering. Well, then you need to take your name off. They're being fed false information. And I've never seen the media. KS, well. I've never seen the media, local media, participate in the left of center effort to stop people from signing. They never got involved in this when Obamacare expansion was going on the ballot and they were signing people up and they were paying for those signatures. I never saw one of our local media ever report on the paid signatures and why that was a bad thing to pay for the signatures. We never saw people trying to. heckle those that were signing petitions on the right. Well, think it was for leftist causes like better boundaries or Obamacare expansion. Think about medical marijuana. Yes. You know, you would think there'd be a lot of people in this state say, we don't want that. We're going to intimidate them not to do that. They didn't do it. But Democrats amazingly are the ones that scream, protest the loudest about how they're being mistreated while they are the ones that foment violence and fear to compel behavior. It really is the case.

I'm wondering if any of our listeners experienced any kind of intimidation or heckling or have been called and given false information about what that ballot measure is that they've gotten enough. By the way, they need 140,000 signatures, but they collected 200,000. They said they got 200,000, right? And that is meant to try and account for. those that might not have qualified who signed or people that they're going to try and lie to to tell them to take their name off the ballot. Now, could someone who signed it still call and ask their name be taken off now? Yeah, I think so, yes. I think that's the case, yeah. So that's what they're working on as well. Mm-hmm. They're still doing it. Yeah, I've never seen an effort in this state like we've witnessed with the signing on this proposition for issue. I've never seen the local media. Be so complicit. They are so pulling for the Democrats. Yes, they are. The local media in this town should be ashamed of itself, not presenting a fair picture as to what's going on, one in particular that we won't bring up. But then, you know, an effort to convince people to get their name off the ballot or off the proposition. I've never seen anything like that in this state. No, this is a very different process you're watching roll out right now. And it's one that... They'd be the first to tell you that the other side does. It's the Republicans that do it. You've never seen this. You've never seen this conduct. You've never seen this behavior. We're seeing it now up close and personal. I would like to ask someone from Mormon women for ethical government if it's ethical. For a person to call another person lie about what they just signed and tell them to take their name off the ballot. Is that ethical? How is it more gerrymandering when you have a plus 24% Kamala Harris district and then a plus 70% Republican district? That seems to be more gerrymandered than. The more even-handed districts you saw that our state legislature draw. All right, we'd like to hear from you tonight. If you were out signing a petition this weekend in an effort to get on the ballot, if there was some intimidation that you ran into. Did you run into any of this? 888-5708010, triple-8-8080-10. Email us. Or you can just dial pound 250 and say, hey, Rod, that'll put you into the show or leave a message on our talkback line. And what you need to do there is download the IHeart radio app, IHeart Media app, and then make sure you put in KNRS. You can leave us a talkback message as well. 888. 5708010.10. Did you see or did you experience any intimidation this weekend if you were going to sign the Prop 4 petition? They say they turned in signatures 200,000. Well, they need 140.

Yeah, 140,000. So they've got a cushion there to play with. They got that cushion that they're looking for. But we have heard stories all weekend of people who are trying to sign a position or those helping out who are being intimidated by people just blaring horns, yelling at them, screaming them, heckling them. Trying to videotape their signature so they can get their name and address. Doxing them if they could. They're trying to block them so they can sign in privacy. Well, we want to hear your stories. 888-5708010 or you can leave us a message on our talkback line. Let's go to the first. Yeah, let's go to Ryan in Salt Lake City. Ryan, thank you for holding and welcome to the Rod and Greg Show. Yeah, nice to speak to you. I'm a long-time listener, first-time caller. Thank you. My name is Ryan Mahoney. I was actually a person running for State Senate District 13 here in Utah. I felt helping the turning point action people this weekend. We had a constant stream of people coming out wanting to sign the petition. We also had several bad acting protesters come out, and they had their signs, and they're screaming and videotaping, like you said, and making threats of falling. people around to their houses to try and get them to remove their signatures and setting off their car alarms and blasting stereos and making inappropriate comments about how they think Tyler Robinson's being held illegally and needs to just be set free. It was very, very intimidating, but the people were very well receiving. So we were appreciative of everybody that came out. The people who were signing wanting to sign the petitions, what were they telling you, Ryan? I mean, were they gung-ho on this? What were they telling you? Well, there's a lot of people who just needed more information. They had kind of heard about it and were on the fence and they just wanted a better explanation of what it meant and how it represents Utah and how the voters have a better understanding of what Utah needs versus judges. the other side of this so okay right one final question i i just did it work with anyone did you see anybody just look and say you know it's just too much hassle to sign i don't want to go through this gauntlet of bullhorns and yelling and having people die it just looks like it's too much drama and they got turned around and went away did they foment the fear did they compel behavior like they were trying There was some. On the last day up in Ogden, they had created kind of a line in between where you signed with the protesters, so you had to kind of walk through their line, kind of like a human wall. So it was a little intimidating. I don't know how many people it turned away, but I went and grabbed a flag and started waving people down at the street to kind of create an outer welcoming wall. Be like, hey, just come on in. We're still here welcoming and we're still open. Good for you. It was a lot of fun. Good for you, Ryan. Thank you. Thank you for your effort. I can't believe this. Has there been any mainstream local media covering that? Probably not. I didn't see coverage. You talk about the whole concept behind Jim Crow 2.0 is that there's intimidation tactics being used to quiet the vote, to chill voting turnout, to keep people from actually going and voting.

this is exactly that if you're trying to intimidate yes if you're trying to intimidate to keep people from signing a petition and you're going to heckle them and you're going to do those things to try and dissuade them from doing what they legally are allowed to do and that is sign that petition you're doing exactly the things that you are you claim to be so concerned about but we know they're not really concerned it's just it's power yeah that's what is all right let's go to our talkback line here's a comment from one of our great listeners Hey, this is Brad from Lehigh. There was a person standing next to the signature gather wearing a placard sign that said don't sign. Not good. I also sent an email to the editor of the other media outlet just for the biased headline attached to the article about signature gathering. I'm trying to remember. Thank you for your talk about comment. I'm trying to remember what that headline said. It said that people were signing the petition under false premise, under false pretenses. The story was those that were gathering the signatures were lying about what it was the signers were signing. But that's, I mean. That's not true. Well, and you've heard that the way they're trying to get signatures off is by saying, did you know you vote? They got you to sign. to support more gerrymandering. I don't know how you get more gerrymandering than a 70% Republican district and a plus 24% Kamala Harris district. These look like massive swings. From a judge's name. What's the judge's name? Judge Diana Gibson. Dirty Diana. Yes. Dirty Diana. Dibson. All right. More your calls and comments coming up on the Rod and Greg show. The intimidation, harassment that people signing the petition had to go through. and the people that were doing this, they looked like they were acting straight out of Minnesota, the way they were behaving, trying to get people not to sign. I've never seen anything like you here. I really haven't. Usually, in the state, people are respectful of other people. We have that Utah nice thing going, and we're respectful. It shows you the level, the level of desperation. that the Democrats in this state have when it comes to getting a congressional district that they think they can win. And the selective outrage of our media that doesn't, if the right was treating the left this way in their collections of Obamacare expansion petition signatures, which they did, or the better boundaries where they gamed it, if you saw the right doing what the left is doing now, you would see it on every news report and it would be the worst thing you've ever heard of. It is crickets from this local media. Yeah, it is. All right. Except for our listeners, they're telling us the truth. They're telling us the truth. Let's go back to the phones, Greg. Yeah, let's go to Tim, who's been waiting in Provo. Tim, thank you for holding. Welcome to the routing Greg Show. Moto casino. America's Social Casino. Welcome to Modo Casino, where the excitement never ends, with thousands of the hottest free-to-play social casino games, fastest payouts, and the best promotions in the industry. No tricks or gimmicks. Owned and operated in the USA. Moto Casino is a free-to-play social casino. No purchase necessary, 21 plus to play void were prohibited. Sign up today for a generous welcome bonus.

What'd you see out there? Well, I signed it at a Walmart when a guy came up to me. I knew all about it because I listened to your show and others. And then my wife was with me. And then she received a text message the next day. And it says, Big Red Square. It says Utah Alert. And then it says under that in small print, paid for by the Republican National Committee, authorized by Utahans for representative government. And then the... Text messages, warning, be careful about people asking you for your information about petition signatures. We have received reports that these paid canvassers work for a firm under criminal investigation in another state. Wow. Don't give them your information. Just say no. So that's what she got. And she, you know, sent me this and saying, you gave him our address and your signature. And it was like, it doesn't really sound that real to me, but I didn't hear anything else about it until your show today. I wonder how they got her telephone number. I mean, is it on the petition? How did they get the number to begin with, Tim? Any idea? I have no idea. She's Canadian and doesn't really do American politics like ideas. She just kind of rolls her eyes. So I have no idea about it. But she sent this to me concerned, you know, hey, look, you signed this. And it was like, well, you know, back in, you know, she was worried that it was my name and address on there. And I just told her, you know, back in my day, we used to have phone books where everybody's name and address were in the phone book. So I wasn't too worried about it. But, yeah, that's what she got. Wow. Tim, thank you for that input. And you're not, he's not the only one. I mean, Queen B got that same exact text. Well, yeah, you were saying your wife got a, what did the text say? Exactly as he said. Really? Paid canvassers under criminal investigation in other states are asking for your information. Yeah. And representing itself as a Republican organization. Ah. Yeah. Really? All right. Let's go to the talkback line. Here's one of our comments. Hi, this is Doug from Murray. We signed on Saturday, and it was no problem. No one heckling us. No one is there. It was great. Everyone was friendly. It was a lot of fun. They thanked me, and off I went. Perfect. No, that's the way it should be. Yeah, you know, and again, I go back to what we discussed the beginning of the program. Friday, before we left the show, we said, wow, there's only one spot in Salt Lake County and Draper from this time, and that seemed odd. And then, but they populated it big time on Saturday, that website. And I think that that helped. I don't think they could put enough organizers around all these different places. And I think that's why they did it by design. They held off those locations. Yeah.

Maybe the day. And they've been intimidating even before this weekend. So the Republican Party knows they're really going to come home after us. So after we had our interview, we had a caller that, a listener who reached out to us in a message and said, I can't make it. The one place on Saturday is too far away. And the other place on Sundays while I'm at church, I won't be able to do it. And it was frustrated. Yeah. Hopefully. Hopefully. Hopefully. If they went to, if they went to the website again on Saturday, they would have seen a much, a lot more options. Hopefully. All right. Here's another comment on the talkback line. Hey guys, my experience with the whole signature gathering was I signed and somehow somebody got my information and they sent me not only a text message but an email asking if it was really me that did it because they know that people wouldn't really do that. It has to be a bad actor. Where did they get my information from? That's what I want to know. Yeah, I ask that same question. How are they getting the information? So it is actually, so what happens on these, you have, once you sign, the other side can approach people and say, were you fully informed when you sign and would you want to take your name off? And they can show them how to get their name off if they'd like to. But if he hadn't been approached. and they've got his information how do they get that off the signature has been turned in to anybody officially is there where that is true for that to happen that how they do did someone take a picture so that's so that's wrong if there hadn't been any administrative process between the time he signed and when those communications started then that is suspect because and that's where some people have reported i've seen this on social media but i've and people i know by the way not just anonymous names maybe making things up people that i know who signed and said they were trying to record with their phones, people's names and addresses and phone, as much as you have to put on there so that they could turn that around and harass them and intimidate them to take it off. You know what, Greg, if we had a fair-minded media in this town, which I don't think exists anymore, which surprises me, someone would be on this story and find out who's behind. this text messaging. How did they do it? How'd they get from it? That calls for a little investigative journalism. But that's story that people like, like a last couple of callers. They'd like, no, how did you get my information? That's frightening. You know, and the thing is, when we talk about even the Save Act, when we talk about the Democrats are saying that the reason they don't like the Save Act is they think that that's a way to intimidate legal voters from wanting to vote because they might not have the ID. or they're going to be scrutinized in a way that they don't want to be. And so it has a chilling effect. It's a stretch. It's a logical extreme that doesn't exist. This that we're talking about, going to these signature gathering places with bullhorns and signs and recording people taking pictures and having people stand around them so they can sign in privacy. That is true. intimidation. That is the real thing. That's the real thing. Yes, that is the real thing rolling out. And you don't have a saw that I know of. You don't have anybody reporting authentically and accurately about what's happening right now. And they should. All right. More coming up. More your calls and comments here on the Rod and Greg Show 888-58010. Download the iHeart Radio app. Look for KNRS and leave us a talkback comment as well. More coming up on Utah's Talk Radio 1059, KNRS.

intimidation if you're out there signing the petition to get rid of prop four back to the phones we go let's talk with gary in latin tonight gary how are you welcome to the rod and gregg show Very good. Thank you very much. Appreciate you guys. Thank you. I got that same message that said, your information will be taken and had that red square on it, kind of to alert you to the message. And the odd thing is, my message came in about an hour after the signature closing on Sunday. And the other odd thing is I save all my, I folder all my text messages because I had a packet myself and I was getting people to sign it. And I got a message from Mike Lee that was just kind of a random text message. And I got one from President Trump. And I got one from Spencer Cox. All of them in favor of repealing prof. And so I'd use those to help people convince them to sign. Well, the, the alert that I got. on the last one after the signing was over came on the same phone number as Spencer Cox's uh solicitation to sign so it's really weird it was saying don't sign on the one and two sign on the other oh that's kind of weird Yeah, Gary, that's the vendor. That vendor is working for the governor, Governor Cox on one hand and then picking up a client with you. They buy those phone numbers. Yeah. So is that how they do it? That's how they do it. Let's get a quick comment on our talkback line. I wasn't able to sign. I was actually out of town for work, but I still received that same text message that y'all are talking about. Wow. How are they doing that if you didn't even sign the petition? Can you believe that? I mean, these guys are, I mean, they're crazy, Greg. They really are. These people are, they're, it's kind of like, boo! They're so focused on getting this darn district. They can't think straight. And when these things happen in real time, I know that the media is left of center. I know they're born that. I know that's just what they want the world to look like. Their worldview just doesn't match with the rest of Utah. But how do you honestly ignore that kind of over-the-top behavior? It is unprecedented in the state. You've never seen this conduct before. We have none. All right. Another full hour of the Rod and Greg show coming up here on Utah's Talk Radio 105.9, KNRS. Stay with us.

I'm glad that we have eyes and ears on the ground, ready to report and share experiences here on the show, because we're the only ones I think talking about it. I want you to remember one thing, folks, out there, as this fight goes on, the two people who are behind on this effort, Barack Obama and Eric Holder. They have organizations all around the country doing this, and they're behind this. So just keep that in mind, folks. We wait to this battle. Hi, Uncle Laser here. America's built on fast cars, fast food, and even faster women. Photo casinos built in America. You know what they're fast out? Fast cash, rise, redemption. You see, only Moto is U.S. own and operate. Moto. It's American made. Is that who we are? And that's who we care about. Played for free at moto.us.moto.us. All right, shall we talk about Marco Rubio? Let's. Marco Rubio. I tell you what, he has become a, I think Greg, a shining star in the Trump administration. He is so articulate when it comes to foreign policy issues. I don't think we've had a better Secretary of State for quite some time. It is, I didn't see it coming. I thought he's a solid guy. I never had any doubts about Senator Marco Rubio, but I never saw. I never expected to see him serve as Secretary of State in this Trump administration the way he has and the leadership he's shown. I think the way he's grown. And this speech over the weekend, this is, I think it's something that will be talked about for a very long time. Well, I went back and listened to all 22, 21 minutes of it, and I thought it was fantastic. And joining us on our newsmaker line to talk more about that is our good friend Guy Sharaki, a political commentator and contributor to Broad and Liberty. Guy, how are you? Welcome back to the show. Thanks for having me back. Good evening. I appreciate that. That was quite a speech that he gave. I mean, I went back and listened to the whole thing, and that was a, that was just a wonderful speech Marco Rubio gave. Yeah, there are these moments where we have to go back and take note because it's so impactful. I was actually in the middle of writing a column on a totally different subject. And my wife kept playing the speech over and over on her phone and said, you've got to see this. So I credit to my wife. I agree with you guys. Look, I wrote in my column, I think it's the most important speech by an American since Ronald Reagan said tear down this wall. I think it wonderfully encapsulated. President Trump's foreign policy, but did it in a way that, you know, harkened even to Reagan's calls for American greatness, you know, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s call, or we can, you know, meet any task if we put our minds to it. It was a wake-up call that unified not only Republicans, not only Americans, but Western culture. It reached out the hand to Europe and said, look, we've been tough on you, but we're tough on you because

We care about you. We're intertwined with you. Your future is our future. And we need to defend what we've done in the past and prepare for the future. So I just stopped to write it because I wanted to draw attention to it. I appreciate the opportunity because I think it speaks to all of our better angels here in America and reminds us. uh why we do what we do and where america and the west stands in the world it's that important you know guy he pointed to a shared you know that that our that our bonds were as nations were forged by centuries of shared history christian faith culture heritage language ancestry and sacrifices our forefathers made together but he says at times on times we disagree uh that comes from a profound sense about uh for the things that we're connected, not just economically and not just militarily. We're connected spiritually and connected culturally. Let me ask you, is this the same Marco Rubio I saw as a senator? I liked Marco Rubio as a senator. I thought he was a great senator. But is this the same guy we're looking at today? Yeah, I think he is the same guy. And I talked with you guys, I think maybe last year about this. I think no person embodies the evolution of the Republican Party over the last few years than Marco Rubio. I think he has stayed true to his values, but I think his tone, his temperament, and his priorities have been deeply impacted by the last 10 years. At his core, he's a conservative. At his core, he believes in conservative values. But I think the last 10 years have shaped him. And I think when he says to the European leaders, look, we thought when the Cold War was over, we won. And we thought we could all just focus on trade. And we'd play nice with each other. And we'd all just have open borders and love one another. In many ways, I think Marco Rubio is talking about nations, but I think he's talking about himself. We tried it that way, and it was a disaster. Our cultures are in danger. We outsourced our work to China. We allow our enemies to produce energy, certainly for our friends in Europe where Poland, Germany, France are indebted to the Russians. So I think he's so powerful on it, guys, because I think in many ways this message also tells you about him that we tried it to go along, get along way. We tried to keep extending the hand to friendship and kept having it smacked and having our enemies steal from our pockets. And so I think he encapsulates the Trump agenda, but he says in a Marco Rubio way, which says, We tried it the other way. It didn't work, and this is the wake-up call. You know, Guy, I love the fact how we talked about the decline of Western civilization and seen in Europe with mass migration, the green agenda, you know, now free speech is under attack. And he said he conveyed the president's message. The president is concerned about it not only in Europe because we need a strong Europe, but also in the United States. And I loved when he said, we need the UN.

But it needs to be reformed. He's not talking about getting rid of it. He's talking about reforming it. And that's what I think the president is trying to do. Yeah, I mean, Rod, that's such a good point because I think so much of the national media, so much of the legacy media on Trump is always at him as sort of the bad cop, the scoundrel, the guy pushing the agenda. But they don't explain why. And Marco Rubio just did. We're not yelling at Europe because they work for us. We're not yelling at Europe because it's sport. We're not yelling at Europe out of content. We're sort of saying it like, like a family member would say to somebody that's going down the wrong path that needs an intervention. Trump's message when he says to Germany, pay your fair share, or when he says to Great Britain, don't trample on free speech. It's not in a disparaging way. It's in a loving way, in a familial, in a cohort. Get your act together, guys. You have a proud history. You brought us universities. You brought us Michelangelo. You brought us the Sistine Chapel. You brought us the, you know, the Arc to Triumph. You brought us so much. Why are you not proud of this? Why are you not fighting for this? Why are you not defending it? It's one thing to welcome it other people, but you welcome them in because you want them to celebrate your culture. Why are you not doing it? So I think Marco Rubio says it in that way that says, look, we're not chastising you to sort of slap you on the wrist. We're saying, hey, buck up. We're on your side. We've done great things together. We brought down the Soviet Union, but our work isn't done. We have China on the move. We have Iran rattling its neighbors. We have dictators and drug lords around the world. Look, gang, our work is not done and freedom's work is never done. It's time to stop celebrating. And, as he said, you know, the United States is not here to preside over the decay and the collapse in Western civilization. And we invite you to join us. That's why I think it's so powerful. It's a call to action. It's not a slap on the wrist. It's extending the hand and saying, we've done great things together. We are duty-bound to do them again. You know, I think it's courageous. You're in Munich. I'm sure there's State Department people that think diplomacy looks nothing like what Reagan said back when he told Gorbachev to tear down this wall or what Marco Rubio was, I think, saying very, very artfully, but very directly. My question is, is that courage that he should, I think it, again, I think that's courageous to go there and say these things as direct as he did. Is it contagious? Does it have anything to do with the Czech prime minister, deputy prime minister? We've talked about him today, how he kind of called Hillary out of, you know, he challenged her. And he said, can I finish please? I know this makes you feel nervous. And he challenged her. I've not seen her challenged in that way. Would you point to some of the things that Marco Rubio is showing by way of leadership that would allow for an exchange like that? Or are they just, is this just a trend that's starting to happen and emerge maybe organically?

Yeah, I look, Greg, I think it's both. I think it's Marco Rubio showing leadership. I think it's Marco Rubio also sort of saying. Let me re-explain to you what the Trump doctrine is. Let me explain to you what the president's vision is. And in terms of the strengthening, look, we're beginning to see it. We're seeing it in Hungary. We're seeing it in Italy. We're seeing it in Japan, you know, our neighbors in the far east. We're seeing these leaders come together that says capitalism is much superior to socialism and communism. The free market works. At the same time, we cannot allow dictators and people who subsidize their economies to take advantage of it. So I think it was courageous of Marco Rubio to say that because that was a room of diplomats. And it was a room of diplomats and leaders for him to say, look, in so many words, look, the cocktail parties are nice, but the cocktail parties don't solve these problems. And they haven't. They haven't solved the problems of... of China being in charge of our manufacturing, and Russia and Iran and Venezuela being in charge of our oil and energy. We've been asleep at the switch while we've been congratulating each other and having champagne. So I think it was courageous, but I also think that he knows that sleeping in these nations, as we see the new prime minister of Italy and the leaders in Hungary and the different check, and look in Poland. The polls have been wonderful allies, and at times more courageous in favor of the free market and fighting against communism than even many in the West. I think he sees them and he wants to say to them, look, you know, stand firm. We're coming to help. And again, that's the message, right? The message is not to chastise the French or the British or anyone else. It's to say, you've done so much, you know, the Britain of Churchill, the Britain of Margaret Thatcher, you have a history of standing up for what is right. Go back to that. Stop apologizing and stop giving up on your culture as if it's something to apologize for. Marco Rubio sure of courage, but I also think he showed the light that said, and this is how we do it together. Trump has explained what we have to do and why. Trump, now Marco Rubio comes into it, and now this is how we do it. And he gives them the love and the carrot and the stick. We hope. We implore you to do this with us. But if you don't, we will do it alone. And I think that was the right balance. It was the Trump-esque, heck, we'll do it alone. But it was Marco Rubio saying, come join us. I think it was masterfully done. At the end of the day, it's a unifying message for America, but extends that hand to us because at the end of the day, if America and Europe are on the same side fighting for the same values and the same way of life.

we can be a wonderful force for good. If we don't, the Chinese will step into there and Russia will do their bidding. Yeah, I just hope those diplomats in Europe were listening. I fear they weren't, Guy, but we'll have to see what happens. Guy, as always, great chatting with you. Thank you. We'll talk to you again down the road. Thanks, Guy. All right, take care. Hey, thanks. All right, that's Guy Sharaki. Great insight into that. And I would encourage people. If you have time, it's only about 22 minutes and length. Go back and listen to what he said. It's really, really powerful. Don't list it just clips. Clips are fine, but listen to the whole thing. Yeah, I think also that if it is going to be meaningful, we'll be talking about it for a long, long time. If it isn't meaningful, the world will move on and we won't talk about it again. And I hope we keep talking about it. Because I do think it was courageous but masterful how he framed both the, you know, the. The common bonds, but also we're not here to clean up your mess. I think it was good. All right, more coming up. It is Rod and Greg with you on this Tuesday and Utah's Talk Radio 1059, KNRS, are now turning to distant Bahama. Or supplies. Oh, that's going to be, that's going to be cheap. So let's see. It has to float through the Gulf of Mexico or Gulf of America, go through the Panama Canal, up around the West Coast, California, and to give them gasoline. And only take, they say, about eight weeks. You know what? The problem is I wish that their mismanagement would just stay within their own state. Yeah. Their own state, you know, borders, state line. But it doesn't. It ripples. There's a ripple effect to their mismanagement being as large as they are, as large of an economy as they have. When they start running out of refined fuel, they start looking elsewhere. And that ultimately impacts our own state in a negative way. And so we, it's, you know, it's bad enough that the California can't do anything. logical or sane or even sustainable. With little common sense. Man, the ripple effect for the rest of us, it is real. We all have to suffer, especially out here in the western states with what they're doing. Now, speaking of a state, another state that has gone a little goofy on us is Colorado. Yes. Yeah, right? We're surrounded, aren't we? Yeah, we are. Well, a bill introduced this week in the Colorado State Senate would make Colorado, ready for this one? The first state in the U.S. to fully decriminalized prostitution.

You know, you did that. I swear they were one of the first states. Maybe California was first, but Colorado made, you know, legalized recreational marijuana. They're the first one. I think they were number one. They're just crazy about it. And how's that gone? Even the New York Times is saying, oh, we made a mistake. This is a nightmare. So now they're going to double down, maybe triple down. They're going to make prostitution illegal. But, you know, that is the true pro-choice position. If you want to choose what you do with your body, right? Yeah, I guess so. The bill would require the entire state, Greg, to decriminalize commercial sexual activity among consenting adults, both for people who buy sex and for people who sell it. Now, you're saying, well, wait a minute. What about Nevada, right? Well, there's a difference. In Nevada, prostitution is only legal within licensed houses of prostitution or brothels. And some counties in that state have banned it entirely. So Nevada is very select in Colorado, whole state. Oh, my goodness. Well, let's see where that goes. You just kind of love them, right? You know, I always call bills like that the Utah Economic Stimulus Act. I mean, I think that our economy are just, everything's going to get better, the worse they get. Yeah. I hope people just want to be serious adults and do business in a state like Utah. If they're going to go cuckoo for cocoa pops in Colorado, come on over here. Let's go get some jobs, create jobs, make money. Decriminalizing marijuana, now decriminalizing prostitution. No. I see no positive trajectory with that idea. Abby with the news coming up next right here on Utah's Talk Radio 1059, KNRS. I'm Rod Arquette. I'm Citizen Greg Hughes. It's an A-list of columns. We get the best. These are nationally publicized columnists that, you know, it's Rod's Rolodex. He's got them all. They, they, they. He calls the answer. No, he raised the Rolodeck. Yeah, he's ready. He's got the Rolodeck. He's got the Rolodeck. Ten hours on my feet, traffic, noise, everybody needing something for me. My head is spinning. I just need the world to stop for one second. But then I get home, shoes off, phone out, and I open Modo Casino. Hundreds of slots. Classic table games. It's my instant reset. The variety I want and the quiet I need.

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are the strength of this country, with or without Trump, they will carry on. He believed it. And he believed in the American people. And he was spot on. He really was. And that's what his appeal was. By the way, I just went back on my calendar to see where I was on February 17th of 2021. It was a Wednesday. Yes. And I was doing a segment with you that day. So we must have spoken about it. Obviously. Yes. It would not have gone unnoticed. It would have been. So, yeah. So, you know, he. Look, I was political. I got up, you know, in 91, my father and my future father-in-law told me, you ever hear this guy Rush Limbaugh? It'll hear him out. Oh, that's where you heard it. And I heard it. And I went, wow, this guy, this is, he puts it, he frames it perfectly. Yeah. And I would, I'd listen. I was in college. I listened to him every day. Yeah. See, I was a big Rush fan for a long, long time because I was working at another station. We didn't carry him. I didn't have time to list to it. But when I came over here, I really started to pay attention to what Rush was saying. And he would always say, you got to give me, what was it, three months, six weeks, whatever the case. Give me that amount of time and just listen to the show so you can see where I'm coming from. That's right. Right? So you can understand. And then as time goes on, The unbelievable talent that Rush had, he had the ability to look at an issue from an angle nobody has ever thought about. That's right. You know, when there was a big story, state of the union, whatever, was going on, I would always say to myself, what is Rush going to say today? And he'd surprise you. You'd try and guess, but he always was able to approach things from an area nobody even thought about. And you go, wow, where did he come up with that idea? You know, interesting. So I read a book, Andrew Breitbart wrote the book about how he became political at all. And he graduated from college, wasn't really political. And nature went to LSU because it was like the number one party school, he said. So he gained a ton of weight. But now he's... He lived a good life. His family grew up in Brentwood, California, in L.A., and everyone he knew was liberal. But he gets, goes for his first job post-college, and he's so fat that he decides he's going to jog during his lunch break. He's got to lose weight. He's paying rent now. He's, you know, paying bills. And he stumbles across Rush Limbaugh. And he starts to listen to him while he's running every day. And it was in that time. that he started, this guy is making a lot of sense. And it was contrary to the way he'd grown up and his cool hippie friends when he was going to, when he was in high school or even in college. And he was so intrigued by Rush. He really did in his book attribute his conversion to being a conservative stalwart to Rush Limbaugh and listening to him and just really doing it to listen to some, to take his mind off the fatigue of running, jogging. And then he just became. you know, a big fan. Yeah, I think he started in 88. And a lot of people credit Rush with getting Donald Trump elected the first time. Yes. Because, you know, it was Rush who was out there pounding these conservative principles time and time again. And sooner or later, the American people would buy into what he was saying. I think they bought into what he was saying. And that's why they elected Donald Trump. And probably why they elected one a second time, too. Even though Rush wasn't right up until the end, Rush wasn't around.

I remember the State of the Union when he received the medal. What was it? The Medal of freedom, I think, is what the highest civilian honor anybody can get in this country. From President Trump at that state of the Union. You could see it meant a lot to Rush. And, boy, I think Russia has meant a lot to so many. Myself, my family, my wife, she can't really, she probably, if Queen Bee was listening to our show. When she hears his voice, she has to turn it off because it's just too hard. Too hard. I mean, she misses him so much. She doesn't, she can't even listen to replays because it was such a staple in her life listening to him every afternoon. And it never got old. Other people, you listen to him for a long time, it can start to get old. Rush never got old. Yeah, yeah. And there's no doubt. Because of Rush Limbaugh, talk radio would not be where it is today. 100%. 100%. I truly agree. All right. More coming up. The Rod and Greg Show, final segment coming your way, right here on Utah's Talk Radio 105.9, KNRS. Yes. You ready for this? The New York leftist Muslim, her name is Nerdeen Kiswani, I believe, said the other day that NYC is coming to Islam. dogs being filthy and unfit to live in homes so she was thinking about saying you shouldn't have dogs inside your home anymore they are not pets i think that's a deal killer for me personally well florida representative Randy Fine went after her yes said uh what most of us were thinking we choose our dogs right well she has now come back and said Randy Fine posted this genocidal statement about me Thing is, no one is forcing you to choose. He just likes the millions of other races hounding me this past week. No, she doesn't like our dogs, and she's trying to tell us we can't have our dogs. And we're saying that we'd rather take our dogs than you, which isn't genocidal. That's just my preference. I like my dog, Ruby, more than her. Yeah. And I'm not embarrassed to say it. Yeah. Have you been watching much of the Olympics? No, other than the cheating Canadians, those canucks, they are cheating, cheating, thanks to our listeners, thanks to our listeners, who've pretty much in the last, what, 10 days made me an expert on curling, because now I'm an expert, because I've, you know, I've been introduced to and convinced that this is a sport worthy of my full attention. I have now learned that the Canadians, both male and female teams, cheat. Cheat, cheat. They are touching that thing after they're not allowed to. There's an area and I'll touch it. They let it go. And then he takes his little finger and he pushes it. And then the women, they did it too. And they actually got penalized by the referee for it. But the Canadian men's team did it twice. But these other countries are on to them. So they're putting different angle cameras on them so they can't get caught cheating. Yeah. but they cheat. That's all you need to know about the Canadians. They're cheating at curling. Erey pointed this on to it. Have you taken a look at the Italian curling team? Yes, yes. There's some potties, maybe. They're melting. Are you talking to women's team or the men's team? I'm just asking for a friend. I'm just asking. The women's team. Thank you for asking. Just checking. But no, no, all these athletes, I mean, they're athletes, they all seem fit. You know, but those, I mean, those Canucks, I'm going to tell you.

They have just, they've turned me off, boy. And the guy got all mad and yelled. And you can see it. You can see his finger touching it the whole time. Well, speaking of the morning consult poll shows that, what is it? That's 60% of the people surveyed have either already watched or planning to watch the Olympics. Big game tomorrow, the U.S. hockey team. Yeah, that I'm excited for. That will be a big one tomorrow. Now, I know you're a big fan of St. George. You love that area. It's Liberty Land. Liberty Land. We love our listeners down in St. George. Yes, we do. Big news in St. George. What's that? Come March 13th, there will be a second Costco. opening up in st. George. They're moving on up. They're like the Jeffersons. Moving on up. The Tribune today did a big story of St. George is on the cusp of being a two Costco town. Yeah, I think they're almost the size of Weber County at this point. Really? But thinking about, they couldn't be physically further away from... salt the capital city yeah oh really have that type of strong population it's it's quite impressive and they do it right there they're totally conservative big debut march 13th it's in the south end of the valley or of uh st george area just off i 15 second costa i tell you what i stop there all the time to gas up when they put that airport when they relocated the airport from that little great you know postage stamp on the top of that mountain that plateau that mountain out west i thought This may as well be Mars. Like, why would you ever do anything out here? It's packed now. It's coming. It's coming. All right, that does it for us tonight. Head up, shoulders back. Thank God bless you and your family. And this great country of ours. We'll talk to you. Tomorrow and four, have a good evening. My fellow America, this July, we're celebrating America's birthday at Moto Casino by giving away 1,776,000 in prize. And one lucky winner is going to take home 1 million SC. Happy 250th birthday, America. You're welcome. Download Moto Casino today. Download the Moto Casino app today. Moto Casino's the social casino board. We're prohibited. No purchase necessary. Visit motto.us for more details.