The Rod and Greg Show: "Trans Kids" Trend is Dying; Importance of Midterms for Republicans

Hey everybody, Lady Luck here, and we're celebrating America's 250th birthday. Now, all summer long, I'm going to be celebrating by playing on SpinQuest.com, which is an American-owned social casino. It obviously features over a thousand slot games and live blackjack, live craps, live bubble craps. Head on over to SpinQuest.com. Get yourself a $30 coin pack for just $10.00. SpenQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit SpenQuest.com for more details. I'm Rod Arquette. I'm going to warn you, this guaranteed human citizen Hughes is on tilt. I am so angry today. And I'm, I, we're going to get into it, but I just think what the Senate Republicans did at 3 a.m. this morning with five votes somehow? uh they could actually get something done when that the senate rules as i've been told is this is this very know this impossible 60 votes for culture which allows you to vote on something which would then require 50 50 votes plus one how on earth did it 3 a.m. five voice votes anonymous voice votes get anything done, that they could all scramble out of town for their 16-day holiday. And now with the House Republicans saying, rightfully so, this is garbage. Now the regime media gets to say, look, the GOP lawmakers are fighting with each other, and now we can't open up DHS. It's all the Republicans' fault now. Well, early this morning, we all woke up to this news that a deal has been reached to avoid a government shutdown. Okay? And then we start digging into it. And we realized, wait a minute. What on earth did the, now, you know, the initial analysis was that the Democrats got nothing. That was the initial analysis that we're getting. They didn't get all the changes they want. Well, the more we find out about it, and then the House starts digging into this, they go, wait a minute. So one thing I think is just totally wrong on this disagreement to end the government shutdown is the Republican-controlled, let me say that again, Republican-controlled U.S. Senate. put the Republican-controlled U.S. House in a very difficult position because now the legacy media is going to blame House Republicans for keeping this shutdown alive. That's what's going to happen. Calling it a difficult position or situation is putting it lightly. So let's just go right now. I mean, the New York Times didn't waste any time. A feud among Republican lawmakers dims the chances for a quick end to the Department of Homeland Security shutdown. See, now it's all the Republicans' fault. This leader is John Thune and whatever it is, and I am waiting for someone to tell me how.

Five votes at 3 a.m. and an anonymous voice vote amounted to anything. Because if this is the case, boy, why haven't we been using this more often? What's the 60 votes mean? What does any of them mean if you can go at 3 a.m., have five people show up and do something and then scramble out of town? But... For the Republicans to do this and to not fund anything with the ICE, we had a great caller, a listener who called in and said, look, when we say that ICE has been funded until 2029, these are salaries, there's the operations, there's a travel, there's so much involved that the Democrats are trying to keep from being funded in DHS and specifically ICE. That is all down the drain with what the Republicans did in the Senate. First, I think it's broken rule. I just don't, I need someone to explain to me how five votes get you anything. I wouldn't even think you'd get out of a committee with five votes. I don't understand how that process worked. I don't understand that. And then to have that smoking, steaming garbage deal thrown over there to the House Republicans who knew nothing about it and can't even get past page two without losing their minds with how bad it is. I'm just, I'm on tilt. Well, if you're just joining us, now we're talking about this deal that was apparently hammered out, so to speak, by the Republicans and the Democrats in the Senate to reopen the government to get the funding that is needed. The Democrats, by the way, didn't get anything out of this, but did they? We'll talk about that, but it went over the House. Mike Johnson, I've never seen Mike Johnson as animated today as he was, Greg. He is fuming. Because he knew, and we're talking about the House Speaker. He knew that what the Senate did put the House in a very, very bad position. But fortunately, they're standing their ground. And he has the backing of the President. And the President has said, I'm going to fund TSA, which he signed an executive order today to get those poor people paid, right? And they should be paid, including back pay. But he's behind what the House has seen. He's saying, wait a minute. This deal. does not include funding for some basic functions of ice and border patrol, and that's why the House rejected. They zero it out. And then this whole cycle, we'll do it in reconciliation. Remember, I mean, remember the minibus bill, how John Thune would say, well, all the things you wanted that we didn't put in this agreement, we're going to do in a reconciliation or in a subsequent bill. Well, that never happened. Remember that they talked about, we aren't going to do the mini bus bill until we debate Save America Act. Well, we'll do the Save America Act later. They're not getting rid of the filibuster to get the 50 plus one to pass that Save America Act. They mistreated Senator Lee the entire time. That poor man's been out there on that Senate floor arguing for this, debating this for days on end. And then they just run out of town. 16 days. I will tell you this. There's a magazine that wants pictures of these senators and what they do in this next 16 days. I hope people do. I hope they take them in the beach and at the Disneyland and whatever it is that they thought was so important to go and leave us hanging the way they have. I hope that their, you know, hallowed 16-day recess is well documented because it is an absolute betrayal of the American people. And it's our own Republicans who are in the majority.

who pulled this stunt and then just sent it over to the house unprepared without knowing what was going to happen as if this is that they're going to have to like it or lump it. Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, we mentioned never have heard of or seen a more animated Mike Johnson. House Speaker, than we did to date. Then, later on, a few hours later, he appeared on Scott Jennings' radio show, and he explained what the House is now trying to do. We are going to pass, hopefully by tonight or at the latest by tomorrow morning, as to this procedurally we can get this done. We're going to pass a clean, continuing resolution that will get us to mid-May, about eight weeks or so. And that will allow all of those who sacrificially serve our country to keep the nation safe, get their paychecks. Scott, TSA agents have not been paid for half of this fiscal year already. They've gone without regular paychecks. It's 42 days. They've been working without pay. This is the second longest shutdown in U.S. history, and everybody listening to the sounds of our voices needs to ask themselves, why? Why would Democrats do this? It is very simple. What they want to do is defund the two agencies of the federal government that keep the borders closed and secure and who go out and enforce immigration law. They don't want criminal illegal aliens who got into this country under Joe Biden deported from the country. Yeah, Republicans in the U.S. Senate go along with this idea. What I don't understand with what Speaker Johnson just said is that we're going to pass a clean CR, clean continuing resolution. Well, you need the Senate to vote for that as well, unless he's saying, because he only talked about Democrats in that clip, that they're going to accept what, ultimately accept what the Senate sent them. No, I think they're going to pass a clean Sierra and then shove it back to the Senate. Well, then they're going to have to come back from their 16-day recess to vote for it. That's the idea I think. What a, what a scam. That's what I think they are trying to do. Well, we've got a lot to get to. Yes, we'll talk about the Tiger Woods accident. And what happened there, this guy, we're all going. What on earth is this guy doing? Yeah. We just don't know. He's been arrested. If you're just joining us, haven't heard today, he was involved in an accident. There in Florida, yet again, a vehicle went on its side. He was arrested. for DUI. He's in jail, probably being bailed out at this hour as we're talking, and we'll get you up to date on that today. A lot to get to today on this thank Rod and Greg is Friday and Utah's talk radio 105-9 KNRS. Beautiful day on the outside. Got a lot to talk about. Yes, we'll get into the Tiger Woods story here in a little bit if you aren't aware of the story breaking today. He was involved in a car accident, not far from his place there in Florida. He has been arrested on DUI. Alcohol apparently not. involved in this they didn't detect that no we're guessing some pain pills maybe yeah he was zero zero but he was compromised and it's it has to do probably with the type of painkillers you take when you've had back surgery major surgeries as he's had but addictions can come from that pretty easily and and the man can can afford a driver i mean i just isn't the first time this has happened in terms of him having accidents and uh he just needs to be have a driver

And I don't know. That shouldn't be that hard to figure out. Yeah, that's for sure. Well, speaking in sports, we didn't talk about this yesterday, but a big decision by the IOC, the International Olympic Committee yesterday, banning trans women from participating in sports involving women in the Olympics. A lot of pressure on them to do so. Bob Costas. The progressive Bob Costas, who is no friend of conservatives or Donald Trump, actually made some sense in commenting on this last night. There is a reason why there are men's and women's sports and why Title IX was one of the truly progressive pieces of legislation in the best sense of the word progressive under the Nixon administration. It changed everything. I had a sister who never played a single organized sport. One generation later... Two children of my own. My daughter played just about as many organized sports as my son. That's a great thing. It doesn't make any sense to have a swimmer who was the 472nd ranked swimmer when he was a man at Penn. either winning or coming close to winning against women a year and a half after transitioning. If that's what the person wants to do, that person should be treated with dignity and respect, but there ought to be common sense, and common sense is not transphobic. I love that line. Common sense is not transphobic. Yeah. And when Costas figures it out, then you know it's obvious. I mean, that guy, you've got to lead him to the well, and he's drinking finally. Yeah. Well, another more good news is more information comes out. this whole debate over trans and kids. We're finding out that more and more kids are saying, eh, I don't think I want to go there when it comes to transitioning. Joining us on our newsmaker line to talk more about that is Chris Bray. Chris, thank you. He is a former infantry sergeant with the U.S. Army, now a contributor with the federalist. Chris, let's talk about trans kids. Is it a dying trend? What are you seeing out there? I think the vast majority of the American people feel that way. I think it's looking like an 80-20 issue. that's trending in a positive direction. And I said in the article, it's looking like it might turn into a 90-10 issue. I think the number of people who are clinging to the trans kids stuff. is getting smaller and smaller. So there's always consequences to these decisions and these trends. So if you look at COVID and when they shut the schools down, the proficiency of a year-over-year proficiency of students is so woefully behind. And it's something that people are worried. How are we going to catch up? So there's consequences to bad decisions. What are the consequences to this wave we had of children being castrated? Children going through this transition and now probably trying to detransition. What does the world look like going forward, do you think? The world looks like a lot of pain for a lot of young people who've been attacked by lunatics and have had their bodies butchered. And one of the reasons that trans kids is a dying trend, one of the most important reasons is that trans kids are leading the way. The number of detransitioners is growing. We had a legislative hearing in California. The California legislature just won't stop.

And they keep pounding on more and more bills to encourage kids to transition. We had a hearing last week where a bunch of the testimony was from young people, young adults just past 18, saying a few years ago, when I was 13 years old, doctors told me, oh, you're feeling anxiety because you were born in the wrong body. You're really a boy. We're going to cut your healthy breasts off, and then your anxiety will go away. There was a young man named Johnny Skinner, who you can find on social media, who is a boy, and for a few years was told that, you know, he had doctors who told him, oh, you're effeminate. That means you're really a girl. So as soon as we start cutting on your body, you'll feel better. And those are the people who are saying, those are the voices that are saying to us. I'm in incredible pain. My life is much harder than it needs to me. My body hurts. What you've done to me is barbaric. Wow, Chris, you're aware of the story out of New York a couple of months ago where a trans person won a case against a doctor who recommended her transition. Why isn't more pressure being put on these professionals, whatever you want to call them, who keep on recommending this step to these young kids? Why isn't it more pressure being put on them? This is a fascinating thing. I think there is an internal debate going on in medicine that we're not seeing a lot of. And last month in February, the American Society of Plastic Surgeons, you can find this statement online, released a professional recommendation to their members to surgeons who do plastic surgery who change people's bodies, saying, We strongly recommend against doing these surgeries for minors wait till they're 19. They said desistance is growing, there's a growing number of detransitioners. There's growing evidence that cutting on young people's bodies because they say they're feeling gender anxiety is actually masking a bunch of other anxiety. And we don't recommend doing this anymore. So surgeons are saying to surgeons, it's time for us to stop doing this to people and wait to see how they feel when they turn into adults and then as adults when they've had some time to think about it we can consider doing these surgeries but it is a thing that surgeons are saying to each other And the American Medical Association, when the American Society of Plastic Surgeons said, we don't recommend doing these surgeries anymore, the American Medical Association said, oh, this doesn't have anything to do with us. We're not making this recommendation. This is just one particular group, but that's not where we are. We support transgender children. So I think it's a conversation that doctors are having to have for themselves. So I think there's going to be a...

I think there's going to be a stubbornness to this issue. I think there are parents who approve this procedure for their children that will never want to believe that they, that they butcher their own child and changed their lives for the negative forever. And so they're going to be in denial. You have a leftist ideology here that wants to continue to, I think, wants to continue in this vein. So is this depending, are the politics of the day and the President Trump's administration? helping the pendulum swing back and we need leadership like that? Or has this truly run its course and it's indefensible now? It has not truly run its course. I think it's indefensible, but I thought it was indefensible five years ago. We need political leadership. It's still a political issue and it still needs to be political, but ultimately what's happening. There's research now. There's a, there have been a bunch of peer-reviewed studies that look at young people who you just leave alone. They say, I was born in the wrong body. I'm really a girl. If you just leave them alone for five years, they're probably going to say, oh, yeah, that was just a face. There is change that's coming. There are medical malpractice lawsuits against the butchers who are doing these surgeries, and that really matters. There's a growing number of detransitioners and what are called the sisters, people who just stop, who are telling us what you've done to me is barbaric and I'm in pain and you should stop. And I think the weight of all of those things that are happening outside of politics is going to end the way we're butchering children, but that doesn't mean we stop the political effort. It is a thing to fight. It is a thing we have to fight. It is going to die, but keep fighting it until it does. Chris Bray joining us, boy, Greg, I just hope that savagery stops. I just hope common sense, as Costas says, comes into play here. Yeah, I mean, whatever you want to think about transgender, leave kids alone. I mean, how is that a controversial or even a debatable concept? Let kids be kids. When they're adults, they'll make some decisions. Kids should be left alone. All right, more coming up. It is the Friday edition of the Rodding Greg Joe on Utah's talk radio, 1059, KNRS. March Madness getting underway tonight, Greg. We've got four games playing for tonight. What a screw up last night. Yeah. Now, the University of Nebraska's men's basketball team has been in March Madness forever, but they finally got in, right? It's a little new for them. You know, how you play the game. Maybe there are some rules that kind of didn't get kind of fleshed out very well amongst the teammates. Like having enough players on the court at the right time. Yeah, there's supposed to be five. I've seen this in Junior Jazz, by the way. This happens a lot. Don't, don't discount this. Junior Jazz, you've got to get the five players out there. Sometimes there's a miscue. So, you know.

That happens. Well, in the second half of last night's game, Nebraska versus Iowa, Nebraska was trailing 71 to 68, less than a minute's ago. Rather critical point of the game, they're still within the possibility of women. While passing the ball in, a guard for Iowa noticed one of their forwards all alone at the other end of the court. The player dunked the ball in and a desperation foul by a Nebraska player set him up for a potential three-point play. But then, listed the announcers what they discovered. Marcus Lawrence, you put all that, look at this pass. Oh, my goodness. Volgiris! What happened? Well, that was a major defensive breakdown there. Watch it again! Well, they just don't guard Fulgaris, and he's waving for it. How about the vision there? Bukton Jell trying to get back in the play. Wait a minute. I think Nebraska only had four defenders on the floor. They did. Rinkmas is not on the floor. Nebraska, that is a major breakdown. They didn't even have five guys on the floor when Iowa was inbounding. You can't match up like that. Would you describe that as a whoops? Yeah, so the question is, what does a coach in that moment do? You know, there's some people that think that you should hug it out in that moment. Whoever didn't come in, you know, there should be, I think to get this deep in the March Madness and to have played an entire season, five players on the field seems to be one of those foundational, you know, just foundational moments. You know, everything starts from there. You can't run any play unless you have all five there. Two forwards, two guards the center. What happened? Go. Well, a lot of attention is being paid this year to coaches screaming at players. Some people say, you shouldn't do that. Other people say it's inspiring. Joining us on our newsmaker line to talk all about that is Kirsten Fleming. She's a features columnist at the New York Post. What about coaches yelling at players? Kirsten, what do you think? Well, I think... I think it's just what's been going on since the dawn of time, right, at all these elite programs. But much has been made of the softening of our society, right? So it's been, we've talked about so much about how coaches, you can't coach the way that you used to. It's been bemoaned, you know, between NIL and our, and our softening culture and our coddling culture and our fragility that we've really embraced. We've just seen these outright. What's going on, everyone? It's Bluff here, and you know what's more American than America's 250th birthday? Supporting American-owned companies like SpinQuest, America's number one social casino with over 1,000 games like Live Dealer Blackjack and Craps. They're offering new users a $30 coin package for just $10. Go to SpinQuest.com and sign up today. SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit SpendQuest.com for more details.

examples of hard coaching. We've seen it from Patino. We've seen it from Danny Hurley, who's, you know, never been one to shy away from that. Tom Izzo, Charles Barkley even praised Tom Izzo for yelling at kids and has said, you know, because he cares. And that's ultimately what's going on here. It's like we're sort of returning back to that, that gritty culture where coaches are saying, and very publicly and very demonstratively, We are, we're here to turn you guys into men. You know, this isn't just about basketball. This is about a broader game of life. So it's very refreshing to see. Kirsten, does no one remember Bobby Knight? I mean, the man threw a chair across a basketball court, you know what I mean? And I think people said, well, maybe the chair hurling a chair might be a little, might have been a little much, but everything else behind that was fine. Now we're at the point where you can't, yeah, and I will tell you, I've had kids that played sports. I played sports when I was young. I don't know a coach if they cared, cared about the kids, cared about adversity and facing adversity and how you do that that isn't, that aren't tough on the kids, but that. love them and want to put them in positions of success. How do we teach a soft society that that's preparing people for a really tough world that will be pretty mean to people if you're not prepared for it? Well, I mean, of course, you know, I love Bobby Knight as well. And yes, that was an example where you went, okay. And then, you know, you had the Mike Rice scandal record. And, you know, there were a few examples that people said, oh, maybe we've gone a little too far. I do think that we're returning, we're turning a corner in our culture. We're returning back to you, and I don't know if it's because the coaches that are winning, that this winning method is rising to the top, so we're seeing it more. And it's unapologetic, so there's that. But I do think there was a, Petito's return has been, I think, very healthy for the recognition of this. Like he, last year, during a game against Providence. when St. John's was down and he gave them a speech that would have, I mean, it would have just stoked fear in your heart. I mean, he was screaming at them, where were they raised? Where are their fight? And he's in their faces, insulting their, you know, every, them up and down. And it was captured by Vice because the Vice had done a series, a docu-series inside their season. So we had a front row seat to that. And that really went viral. And I think people really said, Oh, that's how coaches are. And, you know, I think, like, that was a moment where I think we sort of turned around and said, okay, like, this is actually probably a good thing because look what he's done with the St. John's program. So I think it's about getting back to this idea where people, coaches are able to articulate this as well, you know, that these, this isn't gratuitous yelling. This isn't just people yelling because of power trip. And it really is, like, Patino at the end of that speech in the, in the vice series, you know, he says, this isn't about basketball. This is about life. What are you going to do? Life is, life is, is about adversity. So it was basketball, but this, I'm yelling at you not because.

a basketball, I'm yelling at you because of life, and you're trying to produce men. And in this era with NIL, we're in the transfer portal where these players have a lot more freedom to move around. If they don't like that type of coaching, they'll go elsewhere. You know, they'll get more money to go elsewhere. So I think it's about getting back to the roots of understanding why they're doing it. They're doing it to produce champions. They're doing it to produce good men. And women. Yeah, Kirsten, I recall this discussion brought to mind as well earlier this year. The head coach at UCLA told one of his players to get off the court after the kid committed a hard foul right at the end of the game that really wasn't necessary. He said, I don't want you on the court right now. Go to the locker room and get out of here. The question I have, Kirsten, is it the players who are complaining or their fans and their family who are saying, don't be too hard on the kids? think they're like it's interesting you know most of it i think has just been society's messaging right so it's kind of trickled down into this idea where you where you know the we had all embracing fragility and you know saying to kids oh yeah like it's okay you can have accommodations for this and if it all you know goes into the is jonathan hates coddling of the american mind and um We lost sight of resilience and the value of resilience for a while. And I think that trickled down to the coaching ranks. And, you know, then you have NIL and you have the transfer portal moving in and the power dynamic stuff flipped a little bit. But I don't know that this type of coaching totally ever really went away in a sense. I think, you know, now we're seeing it's okay to be this way. But I do think that that people got squeamish. At all levels. Good word, squeamish. You mentioned it, but I want to dive into this just a little bit. And so I was never recruited to play college sports at all. But the way I imagine it would play out would be kind of like when the recruiter in the military recruits you to join the military, you know, and they tell you all the positive things. And they're very kind. They're very nice. They're very aspirational. Then you get the boot camp. Okay, and then the whole world switches, and you are not very lucky anymore. You are, you know, and they just go after you, but they're building you and they're toughening you up and all those things happen. Yeah. What does NIL do when now, because, you know, Nick Saban left college football and I think he was kind of that kind of cut from that cloth in terms of a tough coach, get you to Alabama, but then you're going to fight for your life from that point on. I think he left because these players can now be more independent. If they don't like what they're told, if they don't get to start, they can have other options. So how does NIL contribute to the softening of players and will players actually take the kind of leadership lessons that coaches can deliver the tough coaches in this climate where they can go get money to play at a different school? Well, I think there's a few answers there. So you have also have Jay Wright, legendary Villanova coach who packed it in because of that, Tony Bennett. He was in the prime of, you know, he was a young guy. He said, I'm not going to do that game either, just too much. So there are a few schools about this. Like, you know, I interviewed Jim Laronaga, who legendary Miami coach. He, you know, he wrecked also as well. And, you know, he was older. But he's like, I couldn't teach kids anymore. My favorite part of coaching was teaching. And you can't teach because these kids are here just playing for their next contract.

Kirsten Fleming from The New York Post talking about coaching in America today. I kind of like the idea is coming back where coaches get in your face. They should. They really should. It's just part of coaching. You've got to be tough on the kids. And they actually respond to it. At least I think great athletes respond to adversity. And adversity is a great coach, Dave Bo Sweeney from Clemson, head coach of the football team, said adversity is the enemy of the week and the constant companion of a champion. And once you know the adversity is just the cost of doing business. It changes you. And that's what I think tough coaches teach good athletes, good kids. We'll be talking more about that in the coming hour. Stay with us. It is The Rod and Greg Show on Utah's Talk Radio, 1059, K&S. Remember got knocked out during the Olympic game, which is the U.S. won, which he scored the winning goal, and he finally got a fixed. And you know, Quinn Hughes's his older brother, he helped get him into that final. He shot that winning goals as a defensiveman. And then Jack Hughes, the younger brother, wins the gold for us. Loses a tooth doing it. Do you think that those like... soccer players that play for real and stuff they they fall on the ground and when they don't have a puck coming at them yeah i'm just saying they act they have a ball they ride in pain and they haven't seen known a day as tough as jack hughes does and he gets his teeth knocked out keeps playing keeps playing those soccer players boy they i don't think they could handle it yeah uh one other note Costco this interesting they're doing this california and probably will do it around the country opening their first stand-alone gas station Who? Costco. Oh, nice. Won't be connected with the outlet at all. It'll be in a different location starting in Mission Viejo, California. Testing it out. There you go. See what happens. All right, more coming up. Hour number two of the Rotting Greg show with you on this Friday afternoon in Utah's Talk Radio 105.9, K&R. Stay with us. Hey everybody, Lady Luck here, and we're celebrating America's 250th birthday. Now, all summer long, I'm going to be celebrating by playing on SpinQuest.com, which is an American-owned social casino. It obviously features over a thousand slot games and live blackjack, live craps, live bubble craps. Head on over to SpinQuest.com. Get yourself a $30 coin pack for just 10 bucks. SpenQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit SpenQuest.com for more details. We've got a couple of audio soundbites we want you to hear. First of all, I don't know what happened in Washington last night. We're still trying to figure this out, but we wake up this morning, the Senate approving a deal to reopen the government. They send it to the House, and the House goes, uh-uh. And we'll explain why here in a minute. Plus... Tough day for Tiger Woods. Involved another auto accident today. He has been charged with DUI. Alcohol apparently not involved in this. He was jailed and arrested. We'll see how long that last. I would imagine by now he's bailed out. But we'll get into that and tell you what happened. But first of all, let's start off with what happened in Washington yesterday, or I guess early this morning, Greg, when it comes to the government shutdown.

So I can't get my head around it, and I've been asking. I actually have texted some people from D.C. Someone explained back to me how five, if I understand it right, and I'm happy to be wrong about what I've read and what I've been able to absorb. Apparently, at 3 a.m. on the Senate floor, there were five Republican senators who, in an anonymous voice vote, unanimous voice vote, passed five. Just five of five. Five. Five. Past a budget deal. I used to be a presiding officer of a legislative body. I know it's a state, not the U.S. Senate, but there are processes where math, the majority in a committee, the majority on the floor, as I understand it, the Senate has a 60 vote cloture where to end debate and actually be able to decide a bill by 50% plus one, which is 51 votes. I don't know where 60 votes comes into play, 51 votes come into play. If you have five members on a Senate floor at 3 a.m. that could vote by voice vote that would mean anything. I don't get it. I don't understand it. But let's get past the absurdity of that. All right. Let me ask you one question. Yes. Could they have called the other members on the phone and said, what's your vote on this? I mean, I'm just throwing out a question. Because I agree with you. How did five decide this? All I'm saying is if that's a rule. Then why haven't they did it before? Because we've got to Save America Act that can't get 60 votes but has over 51 co-sponsors. Do this wink and nod 3 a.m. 5-person unanimous vote. Vote for it and run out of town like you did this thing. If that's actually a thing. I mean, why start now? Why isn't this something we've exercised in the past with tough bills to pass? This one's not a tough bill. It's a terrible bill they passed. And... If you get past the absurdity of the process and you get to what they actually did, and you see them scrambling, a video of them, these senators scrambling to the airport and getting out of town for their hallowed 16-day recess is just nauseating. But then, you know from the reaction of Speaker Johnson that they didn't know anything about this. And it is garbage in garbage out there on page two. It completely shows that they're going to defund. ICE, I know we funded it to 29, but we've even had a caller say that the operations, the transportation, all these things, it's zeroed out. The things that Democrats wanted that endanger Americans in this country and the ability of deport illegals has been completely compromised in that bill. And the House Republicans are not going to support it. They're flat out not going to support it as they should not. There was no, as Mike Johnson pointed out today, and he was angry at this. And I think we've got an audio soundbite from Chip Roy as well. But Johnson basically pointed out, he said, look it. You look into this bill, and I think it was on page two of the bill, as a matter of fact. Page two. Just page two. You're talking about certain functions of Border Patrol and ICE. No money whatsoever. These are critical functions. Critical functions for those two groups. And he says, we are not going to do that. What the Democrats are trying to do is not deport people who shouldn't be here to begin with. And we're going to have open borders again. And that's why they're saying nada on this. Yeah, and so now the New York Times, I've seen the headline already, they are now framing the closure of the Department of Homeland Security as a Republican feud. Now the Democrats are completely by the regime media left out of the equation, which they are the ones that caused this, and this minority somehow gets a Senate majority to capitulate. Now they get to say, well, this is just Republicans in the House and Senate fighting with each other to actually open up DHS. It's a Republican problem, a Republican deal. So, I mean, I don't know what...

I don't know how a Senate majority of Republicans want to win midterms when they don't know how to win in real time or want to win or want to win or want to win in real time. It infuriates me. And I feel bad for Senator Mike Lee who's been putting in so much work and debating issues substantively who gets left out there on a thin limb while everybody scrambles out of town. And it's just... It's inexcusable. It doesn't make sense. Well, let's listen to this audio. This audio soundbite from Chip Roy, of course, out of the state of Texas. He's talking about the deal and why House Republicans said this thing stinks. Yeah, this is this morning when it's dawning on them. What in the world the Senate left them? I think it is absolutely offensive to the people that we represent that the Senate would send over a bill that doesn't fund border patrol. And the core components of ICE, particularly what the chairman's talking about with respect to stopping child trafficking. It's absurd. And the fact that it would expect us to take that up and pass it today as they leave town. I mean, could the Senate be any more lazy than to send us a bill that doesn't do the job and then leave town? So we're going to stand up and say no to that. We're going to send back a villainous responsible so that the American people can get behind us for wanting to secure the United States of America, defend the people, and do what we said we would do, and send it back over the Senate. Any more lazy? I think lazy is being pretty kind, okay? I think it's cowardice. And I think it's selfish. I think this 16-day recess that they place so much value. And you ever notice that it's their Christmas recess, August recess, this recess where you finally, you know, big beautiful bill passed when? Right before the August recess. Why? They all want to go home. I mean, that is their priority. That's what they care. There's their North Star is their time. 16 days home. I mean, It's just frustrating. Yeah, well, and you heard Mike Johnson. Mike John said, look, he looked at the bill and he showed even on page two. There's no money in there for certain functions of ICE and certain functions of Border Patrol. And so we are not going to do this. And why the Senate agreed to this. And I think what's sad about this in a way, Greg, is they put the Republican House now on the spot. What's up, everybody? It's Bretzky, and America is turning 250. And I can't think of a better way to celebrate that than playing on an American-owned social casino, SpinQuest.com. With all of your favorite games, live craps, bubble craps, live blackjack, there's no better place to play for free and win real cash prizes. SpinQuest.com. SpenQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Boydware prohibited, visit SpenQuest.com for more details. They really have. Yeah, well, somebody's got to actually care about this country. You know, the Republican, who's to blame? You're going to get long lines at the airports again this weekend, at least at some of them. Do you know in some areas, Greg, some airports, 40% of the TSA workers are not showing up.

And you can't blame them. No, I wouldn't. They aren't getting paid. Now, the president has signed an executive order to get them paid. Now, I'm not sure what procedure or steps need to be taken. But at least the president is looking at this and saying, for crying out loud, if you guys can't do anything, we got to take care of these poor people. And we've got to help them out. And that's what he's trying to do. Yeah. Yeah, he's trying. This man's working. President is working his tail off. You can like it, not like it. I like it. But you can't say the guy lets any dust settle. The man's working. These senators, I mean, for them to leave town with this half-baked mess that nobody is going to digest. The American people aren't going to be happy with it. The House of Representatives certainly knows the stench of this thing. They're going to force them to come back. You know, what's the Senate supposed to do now? The House will pass a resolution that's different than the garbage that they left. The CR. Now, their 16 days are going to get interrupted. They're going to have to come back and vote that or put everybody on hold while they enjoy their time off. Well, that's what they're going to do. You think the Senate's coming back? Yeah. Yeah, well, how sad? I'll bet you a lunch that they don't come back. I'll bet you'll lunch that they don't come back. I wish I think they will. I mean, they should. I wish Senator Lee, so that he doesn't get looped in with these cowards, just sits on the Senate floor, calls his wife, says, hey, well, let's have Easter here in D.C. Come back here. I don't want to leave the building because I don't want to have any of the splash of these coward senators who wanted their 16 days more than they wanted America safe and an election process that actually is safe. I don't want to be associated with them. So I'm going to stay here in the Senate until they come back. And let's have Easter here. I hope he does. Because I don't want him to be splashed with this. Easter on the center floor. Yeah. That would be kind of. Easter Bunny would go there. Easter Bunny? I bet you can have a heck of an Easter egg hunt. I think Senator Lee's family would merit a visit from the Easter Bunny. He would bring some eggs. He would bring some baskets. Jerry would. For the kids and the grandkids. You know, I think that could happen. Yeah. All right. We've got a whole lot to get to. We'll talk about what happened with Tiger Woods. And the phones are open to you. This being Friday, whatever is on your mind. 888-57080-10. 888-57080-10 on your cell phone. Dial Pound 250. Leave us a message as well on the talkback line. We could also talk about the story we shared with you yesterday about Utah Congressman Blake Moore and his role. and better boundaries. He knew from day one that he wanted to judge to decide and circumvent the legislature's drawing of maps. He knew about it and believed that's how this thing would go. So your calls 888-5808010. More of the Rod and Greg Show coming up on Utah's talk radio 105-9 can arrest. By the way, we just want to keep you up to data on what's going on with traffic here in Salt Lake City or traffic people have been reporting that 33rd South northbound I-15 shut down right now. We understand that there is a police. incident there and word is that that could be closed until 10 o'clock tonight uh so if you're planning on coming into the city tonight or through town be aware of that but right now 33rd south

Northbound I-15 is shut down because apparently some sort of police incident. We don't know what it is yet. Abby, you'll have more information coming up for you at the bottom of the hour, but we wanted to make you aware of that. All right, it is Friday. Lots to talk to you about tonight. 888-5708010 on your cell phone, dial pound 250 and say, hey, Rod. Or you can leave us a comment on our talkback line by downloading our iHeart radio app. Okay, let's go to the phones and talk to our listeners. Maybe they can walk me away from this cliff. I'm on tilt. Let's go to Corey and St. George. Corey, thank you for holding. Welcome to the Rod and Greg show. Hey, Greg and Ron. How are you? We're doing well. Thanks, Corey. Great, great. I'm glad Rod's in town and not off today. Otherwise, we'd have thank Greg. It's fun day. Hey, you came up with that name, didn't you, Corey? I hope we didn't get in trouble for that, Greg. Yeah, Cory. Rod, you weren't here. Corey came up with that fun day. I've been using that Friday fun day. Good for you. That was Corey's genius creativity. Thank you. But anyway, I just wanted to sound off real quick. As a guy who's lost a family member to an illegal alien, my uncle here in Utah back in 2000, I have just been thrilled watching the media meltdown, the fake news media in Utah's meltdown over the ICE detention facility that's coming up in Salt Lake. That is just the most awesome thing to see them and the left have this huge meltdown over an ice facility of all things. I mean, we don't have a meltdown about the Salt Lake County Jail or... No. Any other jail in any other county. But we're having a huge meltdown because of the illegal immigration facility being built here. And I'm really disappointed. I just want to say, too, and maybe Greg will agree with me. I'm really disappointed in my senator in St. George, Don Ipsen, who voted no to Trevor Lee's HB. ADA taking benefits from illegal aliens in Utah, along with all the other rhinos senators that are in the Utah State Senate. that also sat on it and did nothing. It's very disappointing. Yeah, you spot that right. You know, they have that, Corey, the way they did it procedurally is they never had a, they never had a Senate sponsor. So without a Senate sponsor, the bill dies. He even put a Senator or Representative Lee put his bill in a different bill so that maybe if it was him that was the problem, it would be in a different bill. That bill that the language was put in, never received a Senate sponsor. So no one had to vote no on that bill. But it only took one to say yes. It would even be the co-sponsor or the Senate sponsor, and you'd have at least a vote on the record somewhere along the way. But, yeah, that is a huge disappointment in this last legislative session. Corey makes a good point. Nobody's upset about a Salt Lake County jail. No, but apparently a detention center justifies everybody nuts. So why are they, why are they, they're more sympathetic to and criminals that are here illegally than they are the...

You know, criminals get jailed otherwise. Did you see the story today? Ice is opening up offices in West Valley City. Yeah, well, you know. You got to have offices. You better be careful. They're going to turn the water off there. Everyone's going to get thirsty because apparently you can't have water where you have an ice facility. West Valley residents get ready. They may turn your water off. That's what they try to do. Aaron Mendenall has their way. All right. Back to the phones. Let's go to Carl in Salt Lake City tonight on the Rod and Greg show. Hi, Carl. How are you? Oh, I'm fine. How are you? We're well. Thank you. What's on your mind tonight? What's going on, everyone? It's Bluff here, and we're driving through the States in the BluffMobile, and the best thing that we can do is play our favorite casino-style games on SpinQuest. They have over 1,000 games, including Live Dealer, Blackjack, and craps, with tons of slots and unlimited. You can get a $30 coin pack for just $10 for new users. Sign up today. Go to SpinQuest.com right now. SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit spendquest.com for more details. And now a love letter from Spike and Otis, the Baybridge spokesbirds. Dear drivers, we love sharing the Bay Bridge with you. Oh, Spike, that's lovely. But we don't love when you drive distracted. And we don't love when you tailgate. Spike, I thought this is supposed to be a love letter. It is, Otis. When you care about someone, you'll want them to get there safely. How about this? Never drive, distracted, and never tailgate. Love Spike and Oates. Well, I just wanted to sound off on Senator Curtis for a minute. Okay. I just think that this bill that he's sponsored to get away with gambling in Utah. Mm-hmm. He's just pretending to be conservative to try to undo some of the damage that he did from not supporting the Save America Act. I don't think he's really conservative. I think he's just... wolf and sheep's clothing. Yeah, I want to expound. Anyway, that's all the one to say. I like where you're going with that. And let me just tell you where I think the irony really lies. So this prop betting, this would be a bill that would not just impact Utah, but this proposition betting is a way, a workaround from gambling. You're putting in proposition bets that, you know, certain outcomes are going to occur. Yeah. It happens in commodities. It happens in stocks. But this is, you know, just in sports reach, even topics. You can bet or you can. Predictive. Predictive betting is what it is. Sure. So, Senator Curtis is saying that, hey, this is gambling by a different name. So I want to put an end to it. But for all of all the people that wants to put an end to it, it's the guy that inside trades at the second highest dollar amount. And then we've seen in Congress, I got an idea.

Why don't you stop the prop betting amongst members of Congress on stocks, you know, where inside trading is, I guess, not illegal? Why don't you stop betting on, why don't you stop the prop bets on your trades? And then when you're done doing that, you can start looking outward at others and saying, I think, even by example, we shouldn't be doing these types of, you know, proposition bets. Because. That's kind of what they do in Congress. And if you see the numbers that they make, there's, you know, professional day traders that can't get close to the percentage of returns that these genius members of Congress are able to pull out part-time, whimsically, certainly without any inside knowledge, you're just that good. They just follow the markets better than professional, you know, day traders. They have no more information than the regular investor would have. They're just that lucky. That's all. They're just lucky. But hey. That proposition betting, boy, we're going to get clean that up. Just don't touch any trading. Minimally, just on the appearance, they should be fine with not day trading as members of Congress, just because the appearance is a little unseen. As he made as much money as Nancy Pelosi? I'm telling you, I honestly saw a record. Is he second? Once, it was like he was second in that list. So he does quite well. But I thought him being the one to really lead out on this whole, you know, the ills of prop betting. I don't know, man. There's some irony to that. The fact that he was Schiffless. Adam Schiff. You cannot see that. Adam Schiff. John Curtis, standing shoulder to shoulder, and Joe Kernan from CMBC going, I thought I was actually going to have to debate Senator Schiff on this, not you, Senator, because you're the Republican. You were supposed to kind of be my clear-minded guy, and I'm actually having a debate you, not Adam Schiff. That's it. I don't know that you can unsee that once you've seen it. His comments on amnesty. All right, more coming up. It is Think Rod and Greg as Friday. Lines are open to you 888-570-80-10 on your cell phone. Dial Pound 250 and say, hey, Rod, or leave us a comment on our talkback line by downloading the IHeart Radio app. More of the Rod and Greg show coming up. Let's get you an update on this. If you didn't catch Abby's newscast at the bottom of the hour or our traffic report, here is the latest northbound I-15 is now shut down at 45. South in Murray due to a police incident. Word is that all traffic is now being asked or being directed to exit at 45th South. The Department of Transportation originally estimated the highway would remain closed until after 10 p.m. tonight, but then said there was an unknown duration for clearance. So. They originally said it could be shut down at 10 o'clock tonight, but they're now saying that may be a little aggressive, and we'll keep you up to date on that. Drivers, of course, can use I-215 or U.S. 89 State Street as an alternate. More information will be coming along, and we'll get that to you. Is that an aggressive meaning that before 10 p.m.? Yeah, they're saying it could be open before 10 o'clock. I mean, it's a police incident. Though, you know, we aren't, we aren't sure exactly what that means at this point. But is it an officer involved shooting? So that takes a while to go through all of that, investigate what happened, get what they need to done. So it will be a while, I will say that. Yeah. Well.

Yeah, there was an incident that happened a little while ago, but it was on N.I.15 around the point of the mountain near Draper, and that, it did shut down the freeway for a very, very long time. Yeah, yeah. So be aware of that. Now, speaking of traffic. Tiger Woods again, involved in yet another traffic accident, apparently not far there in Florida. It happened about 2 o'clock East Coast time around noon hour time today. Here's an early description from Fox News about what happened. Marcus Lawrence, you put all that. Look at this pass. Oh, my goodness. No, that's not what we want. Here we go. Well, so it all happened just a few hours ago there in Florida. And it's interesting that we really just have the one picture. So we'll pull it up again on our screens. You can see that it's a rollover crash on Jupiter Island, Florida. It's a still picture. But I was thinking if I was working the scene, you walk up to it, you kind of see the lay of the land. It looks like it's a residential area. It's got, you know, just the two small lanes there in Florida. And you can see it happened right in front of some homes. So the investigators are going to try to piece this together as they work the crash scene and see if anyone has information. and maybe some video cameras. And also, as we dig into this crash and see if there's injuries, who else was in the car, we know that back in 2021, Tiger Woods was involved in that bad rollover crash. He was left seriously injured. He had golf injuries that stopped him from playing golf for a while. And it was this SUV crash in California in 2021. So Tiger just returned to competitive action at the TGL finals this week. There was a lot of speculation, people saying, is he going to tee up at Augusta? Is he going to the Masters? Well, President Trump was on the five last night and actually talked about Tiger Woods before this crash, saying he will not be playing in the Masters, but said he'd be there. Tiger Woods involved in another traffic incident, not far from his home there in Florida. And Greg, you and I have been talking about, you know, he was arrested for DUI, but alcohol not involved. Hey everybody, Lady Luck here, and we're celebrating America's 250th birthday. Now, all summer long, I'm going to be celebrating by playing on SpinQuest.com, which is an American-owned social casino. It obviously features over a thousand slot games and live blackjack, live craps, live bubble craps. Head on over to SpinQuest.com. Get yourself a $30 coin pack for just 10 bucks. SpenQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit SpenQuest.com for more details. Yeah. You know, so we're thinking as much surgery and as much pain we understand he's in could be involved with pain drugs. So when I was a speaker and I got involved in Operation Rio Grande and we're trying to get the cartels out of there and. I was confronted, and I didn't know a whole lot about drug addiction back then, but what I learned was that these pain killers that are doctor prescribed, and you could follow the, it's just some people's physiology. You can follow the prescription instructions exactly, and your body could find itself addicted very quickly, just following the prescription, not abusing it, not trying to use it as a party drug or anything like that, but you could find yourself viciously addicted. And...

to the point where there's been a lot of work since then with opioids to try and not use it as a pain to try and relieve pain. But anyway, if you're having all those surgeries, there's no way around the types of painkillers that mask that kind of pain. And so it's not beyond the realm of possibility and it's probably likely that there's either the usage of these painkillers as prescribed or where you become addicted, you begin to use them more. This accident, like some of the accidents that he's been involved in prior, is a, you know, is a consequence of that. And so I don't think that's a large leap. And, you know, we'll find out. But all I know is that I said he's a lousy driver. He actually can drive the golf ball like a champ. I mean, he's a good driver with a driver in his hand. Behind the wheel, man, that guy should be given chauffeur for life. He has the money. I would just have someone drive me. to the corner to get the mail. Yeah. Try me to get the mail. I don't want to ever get behind the wheel again. He has that right. I mean, his back, his knee, his Achilles. He almost lost his leg. Almost lost his leg. And as a result of that accident in California. So you're right, Greg. I mean, why, you know, why does this guy insist on driving? Especially when he's on these painkillers. Yeah. Just it's, it's, you know, hire a driver. I think he has the money. Yeah, I do. I think he's, I think he's, I think he's got, I think he's got a couple quarters to rub together, make that not an issue. So, why, you know, again, and he comes across, I mean, he's, I mean, he's been such a, such an icon. I've loved watching him golf. I remember, he's just been, I think all of America loves the golfer Tigerwood. Yeah. We just love the guy. I mean, he's, anyway, um. So when he's interviewed, he always seemed like he's a good decision maker. He was very methodically, he very dedicated. He had a high work ethic in his craft, his game, to just make bad decisions like he makes in other parts of his life. It's just, it's like a Jekyll and Hyde for someone that loves him as an athlete at least. You know, someone, someone I, this was a while ago, Greg, but someone talked about people who have changed the sport they're in. Yes. They went back to Babe Ruth in baseball. Okay, they went to Wayne Gretzky in hockey. Yeah. They went to Michael Jim Jordan in basketball. Yep. And they went to Tiger Woods in golf. And those are individuals, goats, you know, greatest of all time, how they change the game or how the game they're identified with the game. You say Babe Ruth, you instantly think of baseball. You say Michael Jim Jordan, you instantly think of basketball. You say golf and a lot of people, I mean, my kids grew up when Tiger Woods was on a roll. That's right. And they just, you know, they locked into this guy. And your kids did too. My Sophie, she couldn't, she could barely speak. And she's so little, she couldn't put her words together. And I'd say, who's your favorite golfer? Taco Woods. She could barely say the name. She knew she watched me, watch him, and she liked it. And she liked golf. And you'd love to watch him play. And what I think was more fun was to watch him get in trouble and get out of it.

Yes. Because he was very good. He could shape a shot. He could slice the ball around a big giant tree and hit the green. It was amazing. Couple of shots. All right. Let's go back to the phones. 888-5708010 on your cell phone. Dial pound 250 and say, hey, Rod, or leave us a comment on our talkback line. Back to the phones we go. Okay, let's go to Richard from Salt Lake City. Richard, thank you for joining us on the Rod and Greg show. Yeah, I just want to say. I just am so disappointed with Senator Curtis. I listened to his whole interview on your show that he did, and I just felt nothing held water. But we hate to say someone's like a bad person, because I think he's a good person in many ways. But is it good to pretend to be something and then totally do something different? You pretend to be a Republican. And then on like the most critical legislation in our lifetimes. He just stabs us in the back. I think he's a shrewd politician that knows exactly what he's doing, and he's just killing us. And I just think we should refer to him from now on as Senator hurt us, because I think that's what he does. He just kills us, and not just the state, but the entire country. And then with Blake Moore, I just want to say with Blake Moore, I am so disappointed with him and this whole redistricting thing. I think the silence of Blake Moore after the whole thing came down and they redid the districts and surprise, surprise, he's the big winner where his district is just, he's going to win it forever. And it's just all Republicans, no Democrats. He won't really have any competition. The silence from him was deafening. I mean, I think somebody that... has even just a little bit of fairness in them would say, you know, this came out way more gerrymandered than I could have dreamt. But he was just part of that, and I just think it speaks volumes. Yeah, Richard, thank you. And our thoughts on this, a couple of things. First of all, John Curtis is a good guy. I mean, we, you know, he's a nice man. You and I associate with him, Greg. We've gone back and forth with John Curtis. He'll answer our questions about this. So, you know, I'm not sure what his agenda is, even though we question it now with some of the stance and seats take. And I think you're right on Blake Moore. Somebody better ask Blake Moore. what he meant by when he said that whole idea of suing the you know the state to get the district the teeth of it wasn't the teeth of the commission is the is the public right of action meaning the lawsuit to go to the courts and have a judge decide over top of the legislature so blake more was endorsing the idea of going to the courts to get around the Utah Constitution. It was from the beginning. From the beginning, the Constitution clearly states Utah lawmakers make up the districts. That's right. And it was a wolf and sheep's clothing. And they said, look, we'll have this in the Bennett Commission, but you can vote it up or down and then do whatever you're going to do. What they, what Blake Morris said was that gives us a public right of action to then go to a judge that will make the ultimate decision, not the legislature, which they feel like those judges. And they're right, as we've seen.

are on their side. Now, Richard mentioned, of course, he has the first district locked up. There's some good candidates, so I think are going to challenge him this year. So it's going to be real interesting to see what happens. All right. More coming up and more of your phone calls. Rodding Greg with you on Utah's Talk Radio, 1059, K&RS. It's Friday Fun Day on the Rodding Greg show. Corey, Corey came up with that day. Cory from St. George came up with that. You weren't here, and it was a great, I liked it. I thought it was good. I actually kind of. I don't know if you've noticed, but I've intertwined it into the Friday shows since I heard it. In our lingo? Yes, I have. I've tried. You've worked it out. Yeah. So, anyway, you're listening to Stalk Radio 105-9, KNRS, and the way Corey listens is through the IHeart Radio app. Good for him. Yep. We like that. By the way, and Abby, I'll have more on this here in just about five minutes, but I don't know if we can repeat this enough. If there are many of you out on the highway who are heading into the Salt Lake Valley right now, get ready. Hey to say this for an unbelievable traffic jam. They have closed northbound I-15 between 45th and 33rd South because of an officer-involved shooting. in the area of 33rd south traffic is backed up they're suggesting you take i215 or you take state street to get around it but uh now they originally indicated gregg it would be closed till about 10 o'clock tonight they haven't revised that yet but they thought that may be a little aggressive may not be as bad as they were originally thinking but uh a police involved an officer involved shooting Takes a lot of time, a lot of investigations. So we'll have to wait and see what happens tonight. So just be aware of that if you're heading into the Salt Lake Valley right now. Yeah, Friday's kind of a traffic day anyway. It's busy, yeah, yeah. One way or the other, but yeah, put that into the – sometimes our map apps actually see it and they'll give you an alternate route. They'll give you an update on it. Make sure you check that out. All right. Hour number three coming your way. We'll talk about the midterms, and we'll talk about grow the flow. What is that all about? All coming up, hour number three of the routing break show.

You know, I think we get ripped off sometimes. Like, we can get a spring. We go from cold to summer. Yeah. Yeah, you know, I've always thought March is a perfect time of year to be in St. George. Usually it's in the 70s. It's beautiful. Unless it's 92. Yeah. But, yeah, I like hoodies. I used to wear suits. And then if it wasn't a suit, it was a hoodie. I would almost look like John Federer. I would never wear what John Fetterman wore. You know, at work or the Capitol. You wouldn't wear that on the floor of the Utah House. But that is my preferred wardrobe when I'm not, you know. But now you can put on a golf shirt and beat. Perfectly comfortable down in St. George. All right. There is so much uncertainty, Greg. The midterms are what in November or only into March, but the time is going very, very quickly. Do you have any kind of a sense about the midterms? I just think there's so much uncertainty. I don't know what to say. You know what, Rod, I am on such. And we talked about this at the beginning of the show, but I am on tilt about this Senate and this five member 3 a.m. wink and nod. There's no math to what they did. And I don't know that Republicans do enough. in Congress, in the Senate to deserve to get sent back. If we're in the majority and we don't know how to win, and the only guy that you're going to do is just jump on the back of President Trump who's working. You can't say the man's not working. You might not like everything he's doing, I happen to, but you can't say the guy doesn't, you know, earn his keep. I don't know. That Senate's not earning its keep. It's hallowed 16-day recess. They've got to play these games. Today's not the day to ask me about the terms because I'm not. very happy with the Republican majority right now. Well, let's ask our next guest about the midterms. His name is Arthur Schaper, writer, contributor, American greatness. Great guy to have on the show. All right, Donald Trump has done so much. Can he maintain that momentum going into the midterms? What about all these executive orders? What do you see happening, Arthur? Trump's executive orders will stay in place. However, we've got to, they've got to wrap up this Iran issue. avoid boots on the ground, get stability in the country, get the gas prices back down again. And if we see the regime changes in those countries, Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, this is going to be an unprecedented legacy of glory for the president. Now, foreign policy is not enough. George Herbert Walker Bush lost his reelection. in 1992, despite the victories in Kuwait against Saddam Hussein, we've got to get back to domestic reforms. He's got to finish that wall. He has got to deport all the illegals, no backing down on it. I do appreciate the president playing hardball with the U.S. Senate. He wants everything funded with DHS, not just partially up the press time. I don't think the House has even taken up the Senate compromise, and they shouldn't. The Democrats own this, shutting down everything. President Trump just needs to keep being the solution. He needs to keep being the bridge builder. He needs to keep being the success maker. And once those gas prices come back down, once this Iran issue is resolved, the president just keeps on drilling. Our big, beautiful bill, is doing big, beautiful things for the American public. I think it is a masterstroke that they are going to have a midterm convention. Brilliant.

What they need to do now, they not only have to get the generic Republican supporters, but they've got to find independents and registered Democrats who have benefited from Trump's policies and decisive leadership. They go to that convention and say, yes, it's a midterm election. Yes, the opposite party usually does well. But I don't think that they have what it takes. And I'm of the opposition. I'm a registered Democrat or independent. And I want Trump to have all the support he can get. I want Republicans to hold the House. And I want them to expand their numbers in the Senate. It can be done. Arthur, in real time, I woke up this morning to find out that at 3 a.m. Eastern on the Senate floor, apparently five or five senators in a voice vote pass something. I don't understand the math of that in the legislative process. I've spent all day before getting ready for the show to understand, to describe the listeners, how five members in the Senate could actually pass anything. I don't understand this. My worry is, as you mentioned, we have to deport the illegals. What the Senate agreed to because of their hallowed 16-day recess they didn't want to have interrupted is a mess. It throws cold water on me being excited about a Republican Senate majority because they're not doing it. They're not winning. I don't know what it is that they've thrown at the House at this point, but it's a disaster. It would undermine ICE. It would undermine deporting illegals. Given what's happened today, yeah, walk me through what you think's happened today. Okay, what I'm seeing, though, okay, the compromise that was passed like early this morning was about funding TSA and the other Homeland Security programs except for parts of border control, you know, border patrol and Homeland Security enforcement. And then there was going to be a subsequent discussion bringing that funding into another reconciliation bill. It's not this complete cave, but... what we really need is a full funding of every enforced immigration enforcement mechanism. President Trump has said, I want everything. And more importantly, he's thinking long. He wants that SAVE Act passed as well. Senator Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s proposal to attach the SAVE Act to another reconciliation bill is good. And we have to remember... Senate Majority Leader John Thune did not want to do another reconciliation. He's already caving on that. Okay, okay, let's do another reconciliation. I'm open to doing it. Bear in mind, too, we've got to clear out some more rhinos. Thom Tillis is going to be gone. We're going to get rid of John Cornyn's toast, as far as I'm concerned, since President Trump didn't issue an endorsement. This is going to help us immensely. We must not give up. We shouldn't throw out all the Republicans or the entire conference because a couple of rhinos have stifled some of Trump's larger vision. Remember, they're going to be gone either this year or in the 28th cycle. Don't give up. We just have to really communicate that broader.

vision. Trump needs to do that. The upcoming midterm convention will assist with that. I go back to what I said. You've got to get all kinds of voters from all walks of life who say Trump's tariffs did this. Trump's enforcement has done that. Trump's commitment to protecting women in sports and spaces is very important. Look what just happened with the Olympics. The IOC. clearly declared no confused men will be in women's sports. Finally, this is President Trump's doing, and they need to make a lot of noise about that. Arthur, I would agree with you that Donald Trump is doing a lot. My concern, and Greg and I have talked about this, are Republicans in the Senate and the House doing enough to support that? Because it seems like Donald Trump is carrying the ball on everything. Where are the Republicans in Congress? Hey everybody, Lady Luck here, and we're celebrating America's 250th birthday. Now, all summer long, I'm going to be celebrating by playing on SpinQuest.com, which is an American-owned social casino. It obviously features over a thousand slot games and live blackjack, live craps, live bubble craps. Head on over to SpinQuest.com. Get yourself a $30 coin pack for just 10 bucks. SpenQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit SpenQuest.com for more details. We've got some of them, I mean, I can talk about Mike Lee. We talk about John Robert F. Kennedy Jr.. We need to grow those numbers. I think I am always optimistic and it's gotten a little stronger. More voters are paying attention that they have to clean out the rhinos. It's not enough to just vote R in the primary and R and the general. We've got to pay attention to how committed are they to the MAGA agenda. What we see happening in Texas is a perfect example of how things are moving in our direction. I am very confident of this. When you get rid of Kornan, it is going to send shockwaves throughout the political establishment. People are going to start thinking twice before crossing President Trump, before crossing the grassroots. I am 60% confident that Ken Paxton is going to be the next U.S. Senator from Texas because that James Talarico guy is a total wax. Yes, he is. And more people can, they're going to see how out of step he is with everyday Texans. This guy is Jasmine Crockett with lighter skin, and he's a little more articulate. People are going to find that out very quickly. So I guess, look. Oh, let me ask that too. Sorry, go ahead. And let's talk about the House. We have seen an unprecedented number of rhinos and establishment Republicans. They have announced that they are retiring. This is exactly what we want. We get that cleanup process. You're going to have a lot of red seats that have better House reps. You know, we all love Marjorie Taylor Greene initially, but she wanted to play traitor. She wanted to promote herself.

She's gone. We're going to get a better congressman. Maybe he's not as high on the liberty score, but he's going to be in lockstep with Trump's agenda. A lot of these rhinos and holders from 10 or 20 years ago are getting swept out, and we're getting new Republicans who are more committed to a popular domestic agenda that isn't brought down by corporate interest, open borders, and forever wars. Arthur Schaper, he's with American Great Miss. Kind of an upbeat guy. He says we get some things done. The GOB be okay, but I'm worried. We aren't going to get anything done. So disregard my haterade. Let's just look at his glass half full. You know, he's probably right where things are going to be fine. But boy, time will tell, won't it? Yeah, it will. All right. Coming up, a new effort to help the Great Salt Lake. We'll talk about that next right here on the Rod and Greg Show and Utah's talk radio, 105-9 canteress. What's the first thing that comes to mind when you mention the word Utah that you're from Utah? What kind of response do you normally get? Are you Amish or Mormon? Yeah. How many wives do you have? How many wives do you have? Okay. Third question. What about the Great Salt Lake? Can you float in the Great Salt Lake? Yeah. People want to know about that Salt Lake. Yeah. But there's always concern, and especially with the unbelievably dry winter we've had and the lake continuing to drop a lot of efforts, a lot of money being put into the Great Salt Lake. And we want to talk now with an organization that is doing what it can. It's called Grow the Flow. And joining us on our Newsmaker line is Jake Dreyfuss to talk about that. Jake, thank you very much. We've heard about Slow the Flow, but what is Grow the Flow all about? Yeah, so Grow the Flow is a nonpartisan community organizing nonprofit. It's a no mission in mind, which is, you know, building the public support from the community, our decision makers, and elected officials that we need in order to pass the policy and funding requests to restore Great Salt Lake as quickly as possible. And slow the flow is an awesome organization led out by the state to bring more awareness on what people can do to conserve water and ultimately and hopefully get that conserve water to Great Salt Lake. And so on one side, we're focused on the policy, the advocacy, what can the community members do civically to engage and slow the flow is focused on water conservation tips to use less water. So, Jake, record low snowpack. We look up there. We see we had a mild winter, to put it lightly. Well, how does that impact the Great Salt Lake and runoff in the spring? You know, long story short, it impacts us significantly. And so as you mentioned, right, we're experiencing the lowest. reservoirs and in the system, you know, that's more water being used upstream and less that's ultimately making it to the lake. And right now we're in a position where more likely than not, the lake will likely reach a new record low by this fall due to, you know, an expected hot and dry summer and a below average runoff. You know, already, right, we're seeing our snowpack deplete a month before it should, right? Our snowpack typically peaks around April 15th, and we've already... hit that peak, you know, a month early and are seeing those water resources start to dwindle. And so we're going to see our reservoirs, you know, reach low levels, and ultimately we're going to see less water for farmers, less water for cities and towns, and less water for Great Salt Lake, which is the last stop in our system.

Jake, how much of this is cyclical? I was around here in 1983 when we had all the flooding in 83. And years after that, real concern about the lake hitting record high levels. I mean, the state spent millions of dollars on Norm Bangor's pumps out of the desert to try and bring it down. How much of this is cyclical? Do we have enough of a historical record to see if it's cyclical and maybe it will come back? Yeah, so the amount of water we get or the amount of still we get is certainly cyclical, right? We go through periods of drought and then we go through periods of wet years, right? That is completely out of our control and we have to do the best with what Mother Nature gives us. But the silver lining in this issue, as we're talking about Great Salt Lake, is the rise and the fall of the lake is not driven by Mother Nature. It's driven by humans. About 80% of the lake's decline is attributed to... upstream diversions, aka humans using water before it reaches the lake. So about two-thirds of that water use is agricultural, 25% is municipal, you know, so what residents are using every day to water their lawns, and then that remaining 5% to 6% is from mineral extractors on the lake. And so at the end of the day, Hey guys, Lady Luck here. Are you going on any road trips this summer? I know I'm going to be going on a bunch of road trips. And being that I'm going to be passenger princess, I love playing on SpinQuest.com. SpinQuest has all of my favorite slot games, live blackjack, live craps. Head on over to SpinQuest right now and get yourself a $30 coin pack for just $10.00. SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit spinquest.com for more details. We have the solutions at hand already, and that solution is water conservation and ensuring that we're getting that conserved water to Great Salt Lake for years to come. So we just concluded a legislative session, and it's been the last few years where I can recall that there's been bills passed related to the Great Salt Lake and restoring it. What bills passed this year or didn't pass this last legislative session that either are going to be impactful or we missed the opportunity to make an impact? Yeah, so when we think about legislation that we need to save Great Salt Lake, we kind of break it into a couple categories. One is how can we support farmers to lease and purchase water, to lease and sell their water or improve agricultural efficiencies so they can keep farming with less water? And two, how can we ensure that we're growing with water conservation in mind and moving away from, you know, really... water-intensive landscapes like grass lawns and towards things like native or drought-tolerant landscapes. And so to that first question on how do we make it easier for farmers to lease water to Great Salt Lake, this is where we saw the most significant pieces of policy passed this legislative session to streamline the process and make it easier for farmers to get water to the lake and be financially compensated for doing so. And so more specifically, the legislature created a framework in which The state engineer now needs to prioritize lease agreements that are focused on getting water to the lake. And they also funded the Great Salt Lake Preservation Fund, which is exclusively focused on providing financial resources for agricultural water leasing. And so this is a big step forward. There's future work to be done to make it easier and continue to simplify the process for farmers to get water to the lake.

But it's also a big step forward. And then on the municipal side, there were some serious missed opportunities. We had one bill that would set meaningful regulations on new development for commercial, industrial, and multi-use development in the Great Salt Lake Basin. And that bill ultimately ended up failing and didn't receive a Senate floor vote. And, you know, the one thing we can do on the municipal side, right, is ensure that... for all future growth right for for the future people that are moving to this wonderful state we all get to call home that we're building and that we're growing in a water-conscious way. And we also saw some other pieces of policy focused on how we price water to make sure that there's market mechanisms in place that tell people to conserve based on their monthly water bill. That also didn't make it across the finish line. And so we saw some good progress on the agricultural side to make it easier for farmers to get water to the lake and be compensated for doing so. But we have a lot of work to do on the municipal side, right, to ensure that everyday Utahans who are using water to water their lawns and outdoor landscapes are doing so in the most efficient way possible. Got to save that Great Salt Lake. Yeah. Kind of important. You hit on it, though. I think the cyclical nature of nature is going to be really. Mother Nature. We can do our bit, but it's just a bit. I think Mother Nature and the man upstairs, I think they ultimately decide. Yeah, they got to help us out. That's right. All right. When we come back, our Listenback Friday segments, all part of the Rod and Greg show on this Friday afternoon, right here on Utah's talk radio, 1059, K&RS. What is wrong with some Republicans? Oh, let's not get off on that. Because it's driving us both nuts right now. I'm going to need the weekend. Yeah, you can leave. Be a civil radio host. All right. At this time every Friday, we do what we call our Listenback Friday segments. We take a look at the many of the great newsmakers we talked to over the week and the issues they discussed and play some of those back for you. One of we wanted to play back for you with our conversation with Phil Corpin. He's the president of American Commendment talking about what Donald Trump is thinking about doing with credit cards, Greg. Yeah, this is an important discussion because I've heard different, usually there's typical lines to be drawn political left, right on issues like this. But I've heard from people that are Republican or their conservative supply siders that have been a little bit concerned about how credit card companies are doing this, what they're doing with interest rates, is at a profit center now instead of a way to empower consumer buying. A lot of questions, which is why I think this interview is worth repeating. Yeah, well, Phil is, as I mentioned, President of the American Commitment, and he wrote an article talking about the President's reckless war on credit cards. And we asked him, what exactly is the President doing, and why is he so concerned about it? Well, he's endorsed two different proposals. Basically, they would put very stringent price controls on the two ways that credit card companies and banks make money from their credit card products. One is a 10%...

annual interest rate cap, which interestingly, Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez were for a 15% until the president decided it should be 10. Then they instantly switched his 10. The president wanted to do it for one year to kind of help people dig out of the hole from the inflation bulge under Biden. But of course, you know, you can't. embrace leftist ideas but try to do them on a temporary basis. You get outbid immediately, and Bernie Sanders responded to the president's one-year proposal by saying, okay, great, but let's do it for six years. And of course, I'm sure they would want to make it permanent. And then they also want to put price controls on the swipe fees that merchants are charged when they run a credit card transaction, which can be, you know, one and a half to three percent or so, and that's what pays for all the awards programs and so forth. They want to essentially kill the revenue for credit cards. And if you do that by government regulation, then credit cards will no longer be available for most Americans, especially if you did that 10% interest rate cap. Most industry estimates I've seen suggest that the new cutoff for who would be credit worthy would be somewhere around a 740 credit score, which is to say 80% of Americans. would no longer be able to have credit cards. Their cards would be canceled or their limits would be lowered to almost nothing. And I think that would almost certainly tip us into recession also. So I think this is a very dangerous proposal. The president... What's up, everybody? It's Bretzky, and America is turning 250. And I can't think of a better way to celebrate that than playing on an American-owned social casino, SpinQuest.com. With all of your favorite games, live craps, bubble craps, live blackjack, there's no better place to play for free and win real cash prizes. SpinQuest.com. SpenQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit SpenQuest.com for more details. mentioned it once a couple months ago, then he didn't mention it again. So, you know, you might say maybe it was the trial balloon and we're in the clear, but I'll tell you, Rod, when you have a bad idea that's been associated with the far left and suddenly you have a popular Republican president saying he likes it, it makes me very nervous because if something could pop up at any time and you could get, you know, enough support from across the aisle to actually get attached to something. So that's why we're trying to kind of shine a spotlight on us. Well, Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders are no, you know, weather veins for us on this program. So duly noted. Phil, let me ask you this question because I have heard some frustration about credit card companies generally or just there is people have said, you know, when the Fed lowers their rates, the things you look at are your auto loans interest rates go down, your credit card rates go down. People are arguing and I'm open to this not being true. I hope it's not.

that there is a what they call an interest rate harvesting, that when you see the Fed go down in terms of interest rates, your credit card interest rates are staying the same and that there's just a, there's a greater profit margin or a vehicle for profit amongst the credit cards, whereas credit cards were kind of the vehicle for consumer spending, but if they get bogged down on too high of interest rates, it's problematic. Is there interest rate harvesting amongst our credit card companies when the Fed lowers their rates, they kind of stay the same? Typically what happens is for the people who already have cards, they're pretty hesitant to drop them unless you call and ask them to. And so when you do have the, when the market moves down, you could probably get a new card from someone at a lower rate, but the cards that you already have, you probably have to call and tell them, hey, can you lower rate? I'm going to switch to a different. And then they often will. But it all depends on your specific risk profile and your credit background and so forth. Remember, we're talking about unsecured loans. Credit codes are unsecured loans. It's very different in a way from a car loan or a home loan in that there's no collateral to repossess or foreclose. And so they've developed pretty sophisticated models to try to, you know, determine what the non-payment risk is. And they've got their own cost of capital. They've got their administrative costs and they're over-ed, their labor costs and so forth. But then they've got this non-payment risk. The non-payment risk. doesn't really change when the overall interest rates and the economy change. Their own cost of capital does, and so you would expect to see a little bit of a reduction, but a lot of it still depends on how much risk you present individually as a borrower, how much risk they think there is that you will not pay back what you borrow. You know, that unsecured nature and that individual risk model is why typically the rates will stay pretty high, at least if you look at it on an annual basis. But, of course, it's a little more complicated. The annual percentage rate can also be pretty deceptive because, of course, you know, if you pay by your due date, you pay zero interest. That's right. And if you carry it balance for another month or two past that, you're going to be paying, but you've got to divide that annual rate by 12 and then multiply it by the number of months you're carrying that balance, which I hope is less than a year. And so the actual amount of interest you're using, if you're using the cards responsibly, is going to be a lot less than that annualized rate. So there's a lot that goes into it. But what I point out when people complain about this is this is a super, super hyper competitive market. If you've got reasonably good credit and your, the best want to do business, you can car or you can owe. A lot of the new cards even have zero percent. and a half. And so if you're in a situation where, you know, you really need access to credit, you're going to be carrying a balance for a while because something's come up. I would tell people, look to open a new card that's got a zero percent promotional rate on to give yourself that breathing room. But it's such a competitive market that there's a lot of deals out there. There are a lot of deals out there without, you know. needing government regulation. Phil, you know, we all know that price controls do not work. Are you surprised that Trump is even thinking about this idea? Is he doing this to show people that, you know, he's concerned about their cost? He's got the midterms coming up. Are you surprised the president would even think about doing anything like this? Well, I...

This is a president who is not, you know, I think he prides himself on not being sort of limited by, you know, traditional Republican ideology, right? Yeah. Yeah. And so he sometimes throws these ideas out. Yeah, or maybe any ideology, except that he loves tariffs. I mean, I think the. You know, I think he knows a lot of people are struggling with credit card debt. He's seen the numbers out of the New York Fed and so forth. Although, by the way, you know, a lot of the reasons we're setting records in overall consumer debt is that we have so much inflation. If you inflation adjusted, it's not really flat. And inflation adjusted per borrower basis. It's actually relatively flat. But I think he's seen some of these big numbers. And he's saying, you know, what can I do to at least? lean on some of the banks to lower this, even if we don't actually pass a bill or do something regulation-wide. And so I think some of it was jaw-boning a little bit to put a little pressure on them to lower rates. But I also just think, you know, he doesn't necessarily think two, three, four steps ahead or down the road a number of years or where I think late. He wants to do something. You know, it's sort of first-order thinking, right? I want to save people money. I'm going to try to lower their interest rates. I'm going to start talking about this. The problem, as I said, is... You might think, you know, it's a one-time temporary thing. It's not going to have a huge disruptive effect on the market. We're trying to get people out of the hole they're in because of Biden. And that's certainly how we framed it. But. You know, how do you bid against people like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Bernie and Elizabeth Warren who literally don't care if they destroy the private industry, right? They can always say, you know, go lower, longer, make it permanent, do it forever. And they've even said if we destroy private consumer lending, it's okay, we'll replace it with a government program for consumer lending. We'll make every post office into a short-term lending center, and it'll be wonderful. And, you know, if you're, if you don't care if you destroy a private industry, you're always going to go further. with regulation. And so the sort of populist messaging, I think it's a losing game. But I think the president is not necessarily thinking past, you know, let me try to get people some relief. And I'm a little bit sympathetic to that, but I think it's a big mistake in this instance. Phil Kirpin with the American Commitment Organization talking about the president and the war on credit cards. More coming back. Our Listenback Friday segment continues right here on Utah's talk radio, 1059 can't arrest. Wild things, Greg, that the Democrats have been saying about voter ID. Every day it seems like they have a new excuse why we shouldn't pass. I'm going to tell you, if you want to just keep saying married women are just too dumb to be able to vote ever again in their lives, I'm running for the hills, man. I am not getting near people want to make that argument. Queen B doesn't want to hear it. My daughter doesn't want to hear it. That's a bad argument. I don't know who thought that one up, but that's when you better slow your role. Well, the Democrats aren't, and they're losing. That messaging certainly isn't winning with the American people. We talked earlier this week with Stacey Matthews, a columnist and a contributor at the legal insurrection about the Democrats and their failure on a voter ID messaging. We asked her what she thought was going on. Well, my overall reaction is that they need to get this taken care of because these arguments aren't.

holding water with the majority of the American people. We've seen it here in North Carolina. We were kind of a test case for Democrat arguments back in 2011 and going on for many years after that through the court system where Democrats tried to argue that this was racist, as discriminatory. And the arguments didn't hold up even back then when we took polls in North Carolina. A very broad demographic of voters supported voter ID and not just voter ID, but photo ID. You know, some places they have voter ID, but it's not necessarily a photo ID. North Carolina, we have photo ID when you go to vote. 80% of the American people support voter ID. You know, we have, we, this topic has come up on the show, as you can imagine. And so we've, we've talked about our good, Utah Senator Lee, he's fighting the good fight on this. And, you know, we had a caller call in. And his name was Robert. And he said, you know, when women get married, they're not going to be able to vote anymore. And we cautioned, Robert, that we're married and we have spouses and we have daughters that are actually able to vote. And it would be news to them that if you got married, your right to vote, women's suffrage would then cease, that you would never be able to vote again if you were, in fact, married. He said it sounds a little condescending. I don't know, Robert. I don't know if you want to be saying that out loud. We had a flurry of calls from listeners that are particularly offended by this stance that the Democrats have taken that there is some barrier. to not be able to vote if you in fact get married and assume the name of the person that you're marrying. Where does that rank? I mean, how much pushback or how much do you hear that? Because that's a particular, that hit a live wire as we've discovered. Right. It's become like one of the more fresh Democrat talking points originally. It was all about racism, but now they've kind of added the layer of the woman maybe being disenfranchised because she's been married, which is complete horse pucky, as we say around here. And there's been tons of instances we've seen people on social media, conservative women, who just for grins and giggle. you know, have tried to go through the process of getting a voter ID, and they're married women, and they had no problem getting, you know, photo IDs or anything like that. So it's just more scare tactics and fear mongering. And again, the polling shows that women, men, Democrats, Republicans, independents, white people, black people, Hispanics, across the board. And I'm not just talking about bare minimum percentages. We're talking like... 70s and 80s for percentages for all of these groups supporting voter ID. And not only do they support voter ID, but a crucial part of the State of America Act, which is the requiring proof of citizenship to register to vote, a majority of Americans, a solid majority of Americans across, again, all demographics support it. So what's the hold up here?

Stacey, I saw a comment over the weekend as well and analysts talking about what's really going on here. And it basically came down to his opinion that it comes down to Chuck Schumer because Chuck Schumer is just chicken poop when it comes to dealing. I'm saying that nicely. Chicken poop when it comes to making a decision. He's afraid he'll be primaried. He's afraid he'll lose his leadership role. In many ways, doesn't it really come down to Chuck Schumer? It may, but here's the thing that Chuck Schumer needs to think about. Somebody needs to inform Chuck Schumer of this. In New York City, we found out very recently that you need multiple forms of ID to be an emergency snow shoveler for the city, including photo ID. So if emergency snow shovelers in New York City need to have multiple IDs to be able to snow shovel, people should also need photo ID to be able to vote. An interesting part of the debate over the weekend, Democrats were trying to say, well, and this was their good reason, certainly not a real reason. You know, the items that you have selected to prove citizenship are just too arduous. We actually like voter ID or voter ID and having an ID card to vote, but we think that you Republicans have just made it too hard. So there was an amendment proffered by the Senate Republicans over the weekend that said, okay, we'll include a passport. We'll include some of these legal, not your student ID, but legal ID. you can we'll include that in the Save America Act and the Democrats still blocked it so my question is what you know we're getting past their good good reasons why they oppose it what is what is I mean it doesn't make any sense election wise to oppose 80% of the of the electorate what is it that they're trying to achieve here What is it they're trying to achieve is they're trying to make it easier for illegal immigrants to vote. I mean, that's what all of this is about is making sure that criminal illegal immigrants and not just criminal illegal, just the ones that come across the border. And yes, they've committed a crime that they haven't committed a violent crime, presumably, but still they're illegal. And they shouldn't be allowed to vote in our elections. And they've been getting by with it. Gavin Newsom has been openly admitting to illegal immigrants voting in his state for years. And he's proud of it. So that's what the argument boils down to. You know, we saw here in North Carolina when we dealt with the voter ID arguments, some of the arguments the Democrats would make, you know, we tried to make concessions with Democrats in the state legislature about what they would be okay with in terms of nothing worked. You know, so there's no pleasing Democrats when it comes to this issue because they know the moment anything like this becomes law, especially on a national level, it's going to really hurt them with the... core group of voters that they want to keep, which are the illegal immigrants. On our newsmaker line and part of our Listback Friday presentation, Stacey Matthews, with legal insurrection talking about the Democrats' failure on voter ID messaging. Greg, it's been all over the place. Yeah, they get... The American people still like this idea. There's a reason it's an 80, 20, 85, 15 issue. It's because they're not making a word of sense in what they're arguing. No, no. No, they're in it. Well, that does it for us this week. Greg, safe travels. Thank you. Have a good weekend, sir. We're heading into a beautiful weekend by the sounds of things. Head up, shoulders back.

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