The Rod and Greg Show: No Congressional Paychecks During Shutdowns; Hollywood Lacking Patriotic Movies; Cuban Drone Threat

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a wonderful part of the country, did things we've never done before. We took an airboat ride through the Everglades, which is really a blast. See, I didn't know this was like a beach vacation or like a sightseeing vacation. No, this is a beach vacation, baby. I was on the beach every day. But you did some sightseeing. You went through the Everglades? We went through the Everglades on an airboat and a swamp buggy. And that's kind of interesting thing. And then we got out in the water, in the Gulf, and we have dolphin watching. And the dolphins will follow the boat. And I asked the guy, the captain, Captain Glenn was his name. I said, why do they like to follow a boat? And they say, because they're having fun. He says it's fun for the. So we saw dolphins and some mama dolphins with their little baby dolphins following the boat. We have video of it. And it was just fun. And when did you meet? I did tell the audience about jelly bean. The little alligator. The little alligator. The baby alligator. You didn't bring that back, right? No. You didn't make it into luggage or shoes, did you? No. Okay. So tell me about jelly bean, because you could hold them in your hands. Yeah, you go to, there's a place where, and there was a guy who took a very large alligator and pulled its mouth open. And the alligator, and then he let it go and you just hear this clap. Yeah, that's the job I'm not taking. And they said, who would like to hold a baby alligator? And I, both my wife and I did the great advice he came because they put like a rubber band around his mouth. Good. Right? And they said, do not take that off. And it was good. I have a picture of it. And you know, rubber band won't work on my mouth. So, you know, you can't, you can't shut you up. Yeah, you can't shut me. So it was a lot of fun. Missed the great listeners, but I know you did a great job. I had a chance to listen in a couple of times during the week. I thought you did a great job. And the listeners kind of liked you. It's all right. It was okay. We, you know, we got through it. And, no, I do, I do like, you know, I love the listeners. And we had fun, but. You know, the cat's back. He said the cat's away, the mice will play. The cat's back. Now it's back to business. Well, we still have a license. We're on the air, which always concerns me when I'm gone. No federal communications complaints. I know. I made it through the other side. Well, we have got a lot to get to as we start another week. A shortened week this week, because we've got the Memorial Day weekend coming up this coming weekend. We'll tell you about our plans then, but a lot going on. Mitt Romney back in the news. Yeah. We'll talk about that. Congressman Mike Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is going to be joining us here very shortly. Of course, here, what, in a couple of months? We'll be celebrating 250, right? Where are all the patriotic movies coming out of Hollywood? Good question. Apparently, they don't believe in patriotic movies anymore. Not Hollywood. Did you see this story about Cuba? By what, like 300 drones? That could do some damage here in the U.S. We'll talk about that as well. And a little bit later on, some justice, finally, for victims of illegal truck drivers in this country. So we've got a lot to get to today. And as always, we invite you to be a part of the program, 8885701010 on your cell phone, dial pound 250, or use our talkback line by downloading the IHeart radio app. So a lot to get to today. Let's talk about one Mitt Romney. Because apparently Mitt Romney is not in a real good mood today.

Bill Cassidy out there. Pence? Do they not get that many Republicans, a large majority of Republicans, like what Donald Trump is doing? But they just can't accept it, can they? They can't. No, and when you criticize the vote of the people, I mean, that's where you have just lost your moorings. You can, anyway, I just think that when you decide that people, the way they voted, they voted out of the worst instincts, the worst nature of themselves. And you, and you criticize the people's voice. and how they vote. There's a reason why I'm so glad he's not our senator anymore. I'm glad he didn't even run for re-election. Well, we've got a lot to get to today when we come back. Utah Congressman Mike Robert F. Kennedy Jr. will join us right here on the Monday afternoon edition of the Rodding Greg Show and Utah's Talk Radio 1059 can't arrest. Let me take a little bit of a break last week. It was a lot of fun, having a very, very good time. And no Barry White. No, Barry White. I came back. You know, that was the first question E. Ray asked me this morning. How you feeling? Listeners were, not just me. Our listeners have detected a trend with you that when you come back, you don't come back. Barry White comes back. No, Barry White. No, no, that's time. So congrats. Yeah, it felt good. It's that good. It's that good. It's that way good. It's that Florida Liberty, loving good living. That's what that is. Yeah. All right. What's going on, everyone? It's Bluff here, and we're driving through the states in the BluffMobile, and the best thing that we can do is play our favorite casino-style games on SpinQuest. They have over a thousand games, including Live Dealer Blackjack and Crops, with tons of slots and unlimited. You can get a $30 coin pack for just $10 for new users. Sign up today. Go to SpinQuest.com right now. SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visitspinquest.com for more details. Let's talk about Mike Robert F. Kennedy Jr., because Mike Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Congressman from Utah's, what is it? What is it? Third District. I get so confused anymore. Currently he is. I think that changes. I think he runs for the fourth next time. Is that what it is? But he's come up with a unique idea and he's joining us on our newsmaker. Yes, I can't wait. All right. So is there is, is a congressman on? Yes, he is. All right. We're ready to go. Congressman, thank you for joining us. Listen, I love the bill. Looks like you want the no tax while the show or no no pay while the government shut down. Not to just be a rule in the Senate. You want it to be a law. Share with our listeners why. Ron and Greg, thanks for having me on. It's always great to be with you and your listeners. And we all know that rules are something that's very flexible. You can change them at a whim. All it depends on is one body of the Senate did this by rule. That means that the House is not held to that rule. The Senate is held to that rule, but they can change it whenever they want. As easily as it comes, it can go away that easily. Passing a law is really complicated. It is... hard to do. And it's the sort of thing that when you go through the House, you go through the Senate, you get the president to sign it. It's harder to undo. So the No Work, No Pay Act is a bill that's proposed and we're working it through the process. And we want it to be a law so that if Congress is not doing its job, it's not going to fund a government, which right now, seven Democrats on the Senate side have refused to fund Homeland Security in the form of Border Patrol and ICE. And as a result, we're still in a shutdown. We're scrambling on the Republican side to get these.

these agencies funded so that we can have the protections that we deserve in the United States of America, and these people deserve to be paid for the work that they do. And if Congress isn't going to fund it, then Congress shouldn't get paid either. I think that needs to be a law, not just a rule. Well, Congressman Robert F. Kennedy Jr., we all know, and we're aware of the news of the people who aren't being paid, lawmakers being paid, are there staff being paid? Explain how this all shakes out when there's a shutdown, Congressman. When a shutdown happens, actually, the administrative services associated with our funding, it can also shut down paid to executive branch agencies, associates, and the people that are helping them do the work that they do. The budget for Congress's staff is going to be a different budget from the one we're debating right now, Homeland Security. But yes, everybody doesn't get paid. And I just think that's nonsense that hardworking Americans don't. get paid while Congress continues to get paid. So that's where the no work, no pay act comes into play is if you're going to do that kind of nonsense, you're going to suffer. Now we all know some, there are some on the House and the Senate side that are multi-millionaires. These people, they don't care about the congressional salary, but there are some that play these games that it's going to mean something to them. And I think it should. We should stop using government workers. as political pawns in these ideological battles. So I love this bill because I think that if I was imagining if you pass this congressman or you're looking to pass it, if anyone pushes back, especially in the Senate, if they said, well, we were good with it by rule, but if you want to make it a lot, knowing as you just said it how hard it is to get a law passed and then how to amend it or change it, if they were to vote for the rule change but vote against your bill, isn't that kind of a lie detector test that they never meant it in the first place? Yes, that's a great point. I'm really proud of Senator Robert F. Kennedy Jr., my brother from another mother who did this on the Senate side. And in fact, I'll say Senator Curtis, John Curtis, when he was in the House. He's proposed this bill years ago as well and been pushing it. I picked it up and I'm moving it myself. And we all know that in this case, these senators may be put on notice that if it's moving through, they might have the uncomfortable reality of having to confront. They're doing the rule, but this is a law, and it's going to be a lot more sticky than their rules. So we'll see how it goes with that, Greg. But, yes, there may be some political gamesmanship going on, you can imagine. On the Rod and Greg show right now, we're talking with Utah Congressman, Mike Robert F. Kennedy Jr.. Congressman Robert F. Kennedy Jr., it was mentioned in this story that we saw about this, that you were hoping to get with House leadership to see if you could get this on the floor. Can you give us an update as to where that stands right now? Yeah, we're still working that process, Greg. You can imagine that there's not only a busy schedule. We've got reconciliation. We're working through to actually get Border Patrol and ICE funded, and we're also trying to work on any number of different really good important bills that are moving through the house. And floor time, committee time is a precious commodity. So I recognize that. I'm working with leadership. My team and I are working with leadership to see what political will there is to move this forward. I'll be honest with you and your listeners. I think there's a lot of people that can see this with a little bit of chagrin, that they know this is a good principle, but they kind of don't want to deal with this. And so we'll see what's going to happen. But I know a lot of great people in Congress that are trying to do their job. And the few that are willing to shut the government down to try to move their agenda forward for one reason or another, just to please the radical left, in this case, the Senate Democrats are using that.

tool to shut down as a tool to please their base, which they want to stick it to Trump and the government. And it's it is not appropriate behavior on my part. And I'm all for. getting the leadership to say it's about time we took this tool off the table. And there's other things. I think Senator Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said, you can't leave Washington, D.C. until you pass a budget people. And I like that idea, too, is you're going to stay here until you do your job. You don't get paid, and you will stay here until you do your job. Those are very common sense solutions that I think Americans will look at and say, yep, people should do that. You know, I swear, Congressman, that it's right before you get to one of these big recesses, either before Christmas or right at August, where all those stuff seems to get done. everybody wants to go home. So I think there's something to that. You can't leave until you get it done. Again, I go back to this bill. If this were a bill, I imagine that the Senate rule was changed by more than 60 votes. It's hard to get 60 votes in that Senate. So I really, really want to see this pass for the simple reason that I want to see the same people that voted for it as a rule change their mind and vote against it or... you get the bill that does get the 60 votes, and it's a rare vote that does nowadays, and it would really mean something. If it can't pass, if your bill doesn't pass, either body, but especially as I'm looking at the Senate having done it by rule, it does show what we all feel, I think, right now, and there's a hypocrisy going on in Washington where they say one thing, where we feel like we're being placated, but the reality is very different. Can your bill be a vehicle for that in terms of passage, or do you think that leadership in the House has other designs? And you're giving it to college, you know, the college tribe, but it might not make it. Hey, I'll give Senator Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and the senators, I'll do credit for even taking a stance of any sort, Greg. You and I both know that. that profiles encourage that Washington, D.C. is not necessarily full of people that would fit that mantra. But it is one of those things that I think Senator Robert F. Kennedy Jr., along with the senators, they did a good thing here. So let's give them credit on that. There's more that can and should be done. And I'm going to ask them to do more, and I'm going to push on that. I know Senator Curtis, as mentioned before, he did this over and over again, and I'll do it over and over again. And I think when you mention. these breaks, these times when I come back to Utah to do my work here instead of being in Washington Memorial time and also Christmas. You know, with the American people work during Christmas, as a doctor, there are plenty of times on Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, that I was taking care of sick people and I was happy to do it. You know, it's a part of the American mantra that we all live up to is we're willing to step up and do our job. And I think in this case, Congress needs to just stop. doing things just because a recess or time away is coming up that they're going to actually do their job, no more.

shenanigans in Washington, D.C., you're not going to do your job. You're not going to get paid. And frankly, you shouldn't go home either until you do your job. That's good policy. Senator, our Congressman, Mike Robert F. Kennedy Jr., joining us on our Any Hour Newsmaker line talking about paying people who aren't working during the shutdown or lawmakers who are still working and getting paid during a government shutdown. Why should they be getting paid, right? All right. More coming up here on Talk Radio 105.9, K&RS. Not listening to you and on the beach? That is a vacation. That would just be heaven on earth. You'll listen to me. Hear my voice as you're... Everywhere. Everywhere. At the beach. Yeah, you can take it anywhere. But if you download the iHeart radio app, you can also... You look for K&RS and in the upper right hand corner, there's that little red microphone. You click on that. You can leave us a talkback message. Listen, they did this so well. And the one day where we had a lot of them, amateur hour or me, I'll just come clean to you now. I didn't have it up on the board. So... There were so many. Friday, we had to play them. We had to. That's what you were telling. We had to do it. But there were quite a bit. So our listeners are, not only do they have the app, they know how to use the talkback, which I love. Yeah, that's true. Now, before we talk with Christian Toto, there's some breaking news tonight. Mark Furman, remember that name? Yeah, he planted the glove at OJ's house. They found in Bundy. That's what the defense alleged. Yeah, that's what, yeah, that's what they, that's what OJ Simpson's defense, Johnny Cochran. He died today. Mark Furman. Mark Furman passed away. He was 76 years old. 76 is young. Yeah, it is. He hosted a radio talk show up in Spokane. Did he really? Yeah, he did. For a number of years, I believe. He was the talking head on the evening news on murder cases and things like that. Yeah, he passed away today, 76 years old. All right, let's talk about, you know, I took in a couple of movies while I was on vacation. I saw only a promo, you know, the T's or whatever they call them, for one patriotic movie. And it's July 4th. In which? It's the Young Washington. Ah, yes. That's actually. Put together by Angel Studios. Yeah, they have Utah roots. Or there's Utah connection to Angel Studios. Well, what is, where is Hollywood during a time where we're celebrating 250. Joining us on our newsmaker line right now is Christian Toto. He is editor of Hollywoodtoto.com. Also host of the Hollywood in Toto podcast. Christian, always great to have you on the show. As I mentioned, I've seen only one patriotic movie being promoted during 250. What is going on with Hollywood and patriotic movies? Well, you don't see much, Chris. I don't think much is there. young Washington, which is coming very soon, and it certainly has a patriotic flavor to it, and thank goodness. But, you know, the country's birthday is two months away, less than that. And I'm not seeing much of anything as far as a major A-list-driven project, a movie, a TV show, some sort of acknowledgement of this huge event. Now, I do know that Disney is going to be doing a lot of their programming based on the 250th birthday. So that's good and good for Disney for doing some of that on their streaming platforms. Other than that, I just don't see a lot of energy, enthusiasm. And I think you could point to a few reasons why, and obviously one of them is the Orange Man Bad. It was a different president. There might be a more open, a more receptive look at the birthday, but with him in charge.

I think Hollywood's just going to say a hard no. You know, Elon Musk over the weekend, I think it was over the weekend, he posted something from Doge Designer, which pointed out that David Rubin served as the president of the Academy of Motion Pictures, Picture and Arts and Sciences from 2019 to 2022. And in 2020, under his leadership, he launched the representation and inclusion standards, which means that any film to be considered for Best Picture would have to mean at least two of four diversity criteria involving race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, disability, and the list goes on. So they kind of shifted from quality of storytelling, quality of picture, to basically boxes to check. Could that be a reason why? You're not seeing Patriotic movies because it might not hit every diversity box to be considered for a serious award. Oh, I have had no luck lately. Wait, lady luck? Brexky, I got you. I've had so much luck on SpinQuest.com. They have all of my favorite games, slot games, live blackjack craps, and bubble craps. You can even get a $30 coin pack for just 10 bucks. 10 bucks for 30? I'm headed over to SpinQuest.com right now. SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit spendquest.com for more details. You know, it's possible. Listen, those different qualifications, there's different ways to kind of get them out of the way. So I don't think it's an insurmountable issue. I just think it's the culture of Hollywood. You know, listen, in China, they make movies, and they are patriotic to the core. It is all about the glories of government. And we don't want that. We don't want to go to full China by any stretch of imagination. We want storytellers to tell their stories their way. But it would be nice if we had more... content that came out, TV shows, movies, what have you, that did express some sort of graphic, you know, some acknowledgement of what this country is, what we've done, how we've evolved over time, the greatness of the American dream. I mean, you know, again, you don't want to get it over the head, but it would be nice if something were spoken about it in some capacity. I just think that in general, that's not where Hollywood's heart and mind is. They care more about income inequality, about climate change. They have other... problems or other issues that they really are focused on. And extolling the values of the country has never really been top of mind, at least lately. Yeah. Generally speaking, in the past, how have the patriotic movies done at the box office? Christian, have they done well? You know, it's tough to say. I mean, I thought about saving private Ryan. I believe that did quite well. I know it's a major film looking back. I'd have to go back and check out the box office figures. I think it acquitted himself well. But, you know, I think that films like The Pursuit of Happiness with Will Smith from a few years ago. I think that went to fairly well. It really did show capitalism that it's hard.

But if you put in enough work and enough dedication that you can reach your dreams. And I think those kinds of stories are where it's kind of the sweet spot in a way where it's a great story. It does kind of look at America and the system we have. It acknowledges the fact that there are hardships along the way. Nothing is an easy route, but that that potential is always there for you. So I think movies like that. do well and have the potential to be uh box office successes and you know let's look at top gun maverick from just a couple years ago you know that was all about excellence that was about defending the country yeah we didn't know which country we were fighting with those dog fights in the sky but it was sort of a gently patriotic this is about american excellence the best of the best make it to top gun the rest just get left by the weight side i mean i think there were themes there that really did resonate with audiences and it was a terrific film in every possible way so let's not you know you can just you can make a film that speaks to american excellence and make a lousy film and then no one's going to show up so i mean you get to you have to really kind of get all your ducks in a row but i think the potential there is for box office success it's just got to be done right yeah and top of gun maverick was a commercial success it was a great movie and and on top of that it probably made a lot of people a lot of money my question is sometimes you see like saving private ryan or you see that uh the schindler's list was made and you you hear these different stories where directors or actors said i needed to make this i needed to tell this story it was important for me to be part of this do you think i think the people in hollywood love america do you think they think it's worth promoting or do they think it's a flawed country born in greed and evil and slavery i mean what is the sentiment of america if we're not seeing movies really highlighting uh patriotism That's a great question and a great point, but I will say I think there are some creators out there who do love the country and do extol its virtues. I also think that they know that to say that in public, to say that behind the scenes, to go into a boardroom and pitch a movie and use that as the framing device, that's not going to play well. It's just not what the suits want to hear. It's not what the industry wants to hear, even if people do believe it, feel it, think it. It's just not the way you go forward. Listen, if you're Steven Spielberg, you enter the room and say, this is what I'm making, and let's get going, because you're Steven Spielberg. So there are some creators who have the moxie, the muscle, the cloud to do whatever they want. But those are the exceptions. Most people are still trying to get the green lighting for the project, get the money, get the stars, get this, get that. And that becomes a very complicated dance. And when you're doing that dance, you can't really try or accept anything that's going to be. problematic and i i don't think that's going to be a win honestly if you're going to go in with that pitch on our any hour newsmaker line christian toto talking about uh hollywood and patriotic movies as we prepare to uh celebrate our 250th birthday coming up on july 4th i forgot to mention there is a movie i think it's being released this weekend called pressure it's about the hours leading up to d day wow that'll be fun too so that'll be an interesting to wand one to watch yep All right, more coming up. It is The Rotting Greg Show Monday afternoon edition right here on Utah's Talk Radio, 105-9 KNRS. Word is today that Texas and Florida have just lost their crown as Americans rush to this red state. Which red state are they running to? Tennessee. Nope. I don't know. South Carolina.

No. Yeah. South Carolina is overtaken. Isn't Lindsey Graham from South Carolina? No, he's from North Carolina. I think, well, you know, I got it. I think you're right. I think he is from South Carolina. He is, and I'm not buying it from that state. You've been South Carolina? No, I've driven through it. That's it. Really? I've been to Hilton Head. Oh, fancy. Really nice. Golf to Hilton Head. I was just going to say the alligators. And went to Charleston once. Charleston's an interesting town. That's more slaves came through Charleston than any other American city. I think I've been in that period of time. Yeah. Charleston, West Virginia, that's Charleston. So, very different Charleston. Very, very different Charleston. But South Carolina. And also, you know, Chick-fil-A is, I think, the only fast food chain in America that closes on Sunday, right? Yes. You know how much it cost them? How much? One billion dollars. well to close on sunday but they it's a marketing tool for them and people respect them for that i but they lose about a billion dollars i don't maybe they wouldn't be as maybe they wouldn't make as much monday through saturday if they weren't closed on sunday everything that's true yeah that's true yeah that's true do you know the founder uh truitt caddy was on this radio show many, many years ago. Really? Yeah, when they opened their first Chick-fil-A here in Salt Lake, he was here to welcome in, and he came on the show. I had a good chat with him. Very nice man. He was 86-87 when they came to Pittsburgh. Really? Chick-fil-A. It was at the mall. It was a brand-new mall. I asked him about the Sunday rule. He said, well, it was really, you know, religious belief, part of it, but also we couldn't find anybody to work on Sunday. So he just closed it. Lindsey Graham is from South Carolina. Is he? So that makes South Carolina suspect in my mind. Yeah. Until they boot him. Yeah. Okay. All right. We got a lot more to get to. Hour number two on its way. Stay with us on Utah's Talk Radio 1059, Banner.

now trying to bring some law and order to our capital city right uh came out on friday and basically said as a parent if you allow your child to break curfew which they now have in the nation's capital and we can connect that child to joining with a bunch of thugs and taking over a restaurant the way they did over the weekend you parents could face prosecution Yeah. You know, you know, does, I don't know how they would make the connection and how a parent would know. She claimed if the parents knew. that that child was going to break the curfew, then they could be prosecuted. Or if they should reasonably know. Yeah, or reasonably no. Yeah, and, well, I think that's where you get into the gray area. I think you ought to have just a blanket rule that if your kid goes and it smashes everything to smithereens and they're a minor, then the parents, whoever that child is, whoever's a parent or guardian of that child, you just, you owe whatever it is that kid just smashed the smithering. Yes. Because somebody just lost something. Mm-hmm.

He needs to sneeze. I fly through my flu in my throat. A fly. You don't have flies in this. No, something. The bug just went my throat. Anyway, I was saying, look, I come from this from two perspectives. One being the juvenile delinquent growing up and thinking what my poor mother would have to go through if this was a law. Actually, I never got caught. I was going to say, did you ever get caught? No. So my mother wouldn't have suffered a day. I did it at one time for something stupid. My mother wouldn't have suffered a day. But she could have. And maybe that had been a motivator to change how I did it because, you know, I wouldn't want my mom in trouble. But as a parent of kids that, as far as their dad knows, behave pretty well, I'm not out any money. And so I'm like, okay, let's do this. I am saying that, but with both perspectives, I would just say that I think that if a minor commits that kind of crime and does that kind of damage and a minor isn't able to. to pay restitution, then it ought to be the household of that minor that needs to pay restitution. What if they can't afford it? Should they go to jail? No, but they ought to have a lien in their income ought to be... So no jail time. You don't like the idea of a parent in jail time. But you can do it like any claim, whether it's a civil claim that you lose or if it's, you know, they garner the paychecks or the wages of a parent that does like custody or, you know, child support or something like that. I think you got to garner wages, you got to do something. But I think the household of the kid, you know, that's damaging things, ought to be responsible for it. Well, okay, let me ask you this question. What do we do? And it happened in D.C. over the weekend. Apparently, they got into a big brawl in some restaurant and we're throwing furniture and everything else at each other. Okay. But this isn't the first time, Greg, we've seen this. We have seen teen thugs all around the country doing things. and nothing apparently nothing ever happens or seems to have happened because that's what i'm i just saw these scenes in detroit yeah this is a different level than the kind of you know you know tom foolery that miners typically get into there's you know kids will be kids we've heard we've said this we've lived this we know this but what you're seeing there this organized just going into stores and just stealing everything looting destroying it on your way in and your way out What you're seeing in lawlessness, you just didn't see amongst the youth, I don't think. I think what you're seeing here is the lack of accountability has escalated in some pockets of this country and the mobs that you've got to be able to do something. And if being a minor means that you can't hold them responsible because minors that you treat differently than you do adults in terms of penalties and everything else, then you have to go to the household. And you have to, whoever the adult is in that household, if it's their kid, guardian or parent who their child is out there committing this kind of damage and crime, they got to be held responsible. But you, like you brought up, we've seen. organized efforts to smash and grab. Yes. You're running into, you know, stores like Apple or jewelry store. Adults doing it too. Not just minors. But you also see kids out there and maybe they aren't minors doing donuts in the middle of intersections on some of our major cities. You know, you know, what happens to those kids? Then you see them having brawls and fights into restaurants, tearing up the place. And what's going to stop this? Or is it?

I don't recall it happening during my time. And I don't think it happened during your time. The level of violence has gone up and why? because no one, I'll go back to what you were saying. No one's being held accountable. And so I know this has changed. I know society changes, but my mother was a single mother, my grandmother was a single mother. These are tough women, okay? Yeah. And to the extent that my mother knew, but certainly my grandmother, they did, I've seen, and I've seen, I lived in neighborhoods where kids had a single mom. These single mother, they would beat these kids, say it got out of the line. They would die. What the principal said and what they got in trouble in school for was nothing like they were going to get home and get in trouble for. I do think that there needs to be that accountability. And a lot of times, young men are afraid of their mother, not just physically, but they don't want to make their mother cry. They don't want to disappoint their mother. It matters to them. They know their mother's struggling. So they, they would, I think it would reach even these rotten kids that I'm watching from Detroit, do what they're doing. Detroit and D.C. If they knew. If they get caught, their mother is going to bear the consequence for their behavior. I actually do think it could change what their, color, what the decision making for what they're doing. I disagree. I don't think it'll change their minds. I don't know, man. If you put your mother through that boy, I'll tell you what, you've got to have a coal for a heart to do it. Well, I just wonder what society can do anymore because this is going on. Hey guys, Lady Luck here. Are you going on any road trips this summer? I know I'm going to be going on a bunch of road trips. And being that I'm going to be passenger princess, I love playing on SpinQuest.com. SpinQuest has all of my favorite slot games, live blackjack, live craps. Head on over to SpinQuest right now and get yourself a $30 coin pack for just $10.00. SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Boydware prohibited, visitspinquest.com for more details. They impose curfews. The curfews, like in D.C. are not being enforced. I mean, the president brought in, how many National Guardsmen? How many more do you need? Yeah, true. You know, they had curfews when I was a kid. And I got chased. but I got away. Okay. Is there, does any city in this state have a curfew? I don't think so. I thought that, I think that's a, I thought that was a relic of all times gone by. And do they even work? I mean, why impose a curfew if you aren't going to impose a curfew? Yeah, well, when I was a kid growing up, they did, they did impose those curfews and they enforced them or tried. But, but, yeah, I think, I think that, You ought to have curfews. There's no, there's no reason a minor after a certain hour at night should be out. There's no, they shouldn't. Especially after midnight. Yep. And you're not an adult. You get a lot more trouble after midnight. You don't get that individual liberty that adults get. We should treat kids like kids. And part of being treated like a kid is, it's midnight. Why are you out here? There's no adult around. You know, where do you live? Yeah. And take them home. Yeah. Yeah. I.

Anyway, I remember years ago, when I was in school in Texas, Greg, I remember there's a great television station down in Dallas, WFAA. And right before their 10 o'clock news, every night, they would say it's 10 o'clock in the metroplex, which is the Dallas-Fort Worth area. Do you know where your children are? And then they go right into news. But it was a message that parents heard every night at 10 o'clock. And I don't know if they still do it. But it's a great message. And they just come on and say, it's 10 o'clock in the metroplex. Do you know where your children are? You know, they did that, thinking back now. I'd never heard that around any other part of the country. I'm that Generation X, you know, so it's like 1965 to 1980. I think if you were born in those years, you're in this Generation X. Yeah, we're generation. And so we, we're, yeah, in the 80s, they used to have this where, like, where are your kids at? Question they'd always ask, because we were feral children. I keep talking about myself, but I think I lived in a generation of kids that you left in the morning and you didn't come back. You weren't underfoot with your parent, your bomb or anything. You left and you came back and so they had to remind the parents. You know you have kids. You might want them to see where they're at. Do you know where your kids are? They had to remind the adults because they're so used to turn them out. They had to let them go. Do you remember them coming back in the house? Are they asleep in the house? We did the same thing, and I'm a boomer. We did the same thing. Yeah. Yeah, no, yeah, it's true. I think, I don't know when this stopped. When did that stop? And when did it become violent, Greg? But I think it's funny that they have to have commercials to remind the parents, do you know where your kids are? Because I honestly think it was a service to the parents like, hey, do you remember them coming back in the house yet? It was a simple message. It's 10 o'clock in the metroplex. Do you know where your children are? Yeah, that was an annoyance to me as a kid. It was an absolute bust. I hated that. Let me go back to the question we're talking about. What accountability should a parent hold? All of it. I think they should be responsible for the damage. If there's damage. There's 15 kids in there destroying that place. Yeah, that restaurant. Parate that damage to each kid. Prorate it and send it. They're throwing chairs at each other? The household needs to pay for that. They're breaking windows? Yeah. Yeah, just make them pay for it. That's it. You have to. Yeah, I think so. Here's an interesting thing. When I was a lawmaker, we talked about the bail bonds system, where bail bonds process, where you had to get a bond. You can't believe what I've been told by multiple sources that are related to criminal justice, that when someone needed their mother, father, grandmother to put up the bond. to appear in court, and it was just an appearance bond, meaning you're going to put up the money, you pay 10% of whatever that bond is, and the equity is, and it's held by the equity of your grandmother, your grandparents, your parents, whoever it may be. What was getting those people to come and appear before court was that they didn't want to harm.

The loved one who helped them get out of jail by putting up the collateral for a bond. As soon as we went to cashless bail, as soon as we went to... Changed. The failure to appear rates went through the roof because the consequence was within the support group of that household that was helping that person get out because they promised, they helped promise financially with a bail bonds that the company that their loved one would appear. And do you think they were watching that date themselves? Of course they were. As soon as you went to, you know, cashless bail and all this catch and release stuff, the failure to a peer rate went through the roof. Do we still have cashless bail? Yes. In this state? Why? Why? Yeah, because, you know, they're poor. You're letting rich people get out with bail and you're letting poor people have to stay inside. Doesn't work. You know what happens? They got to pay 10% of whatever the bail list, but you do have to put some. And that's usually a family support structure that puts up the collateral to get them out. But, man, that same support structure that got them out is wanting to make sure they appear so they get their collateral back. All right, that's our question. Tonight, we want to open up the phones to you 888-5708010 on your cell phone, dial pound 250 or leave us a message on our talkback line. The U.S. District Attorney for Washington, Janine Piro, says parents could now face jail time over teen takeovers under her proposal. Is it worth doing that? 888-5708010 your calls and comments coming up on the Rod and Greg show. You go into the Eagles. For some reason, I just thought that was... That didn't register with you? You seem more likely to go to a Taylor Swift concert than an Eagles concert. Oh, don't go there. You are a Swifty. I did not see you... You know, being a follow the Eagles around kind of guy at their concerts. I have been to a Taylor Swift concert, but the tickets were given to me, okay? And I wanted to go see what the phenomenon was all about. And you follow the news. You follow TMZ for Taylor Swift every day. Every day in our production calls, you have to have a Taylor Swift story. If you were given Taylor Swift tickets, would you go? Who, me? Yes. Never. Hey everybody, Lady Luck here, and we're celebrating America's 250th birthday. Now, all summer long, I'm going to be celebrating by playing on SpinQuest.com, which is an American-owned social casino. It obviously features over a thousand slot games and live blackjack, live craps, live bubble craps. Head on over to SpinQuest.com. Get yourself a $30 coin pack for just $10.00. SpenQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit SpenQuest.com for more details. Really? No, I would not go. You know why I went? Why? I wanted to see what she had that all these young girls were just going goofy. You were buying that? I think you already liked it. He was already picking up what she was putting down. He was already digging on Taylor Swift. He's a total swift. You guys do get. I am a social observer. Oh, gee whiz. I observe what's going on society. Did you think your grandkids is this at least? Was there a 14 dog face pony soldier? It was just my wife and I. Are you kidding me? No, you can't even say you had a 14-year-old kid you took with you? No, I'm not. My wife wanted to see her. Taylor Swift? Yes. Man, you're making my case. Ladies and gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen, the jury, I arrest my case. No. That's a damn liar, man. That's not true.

No, I went because I wonder. Because you like Taylor Swift. No, I do not like Taylor Swift. Just tell the truth. I could not, I could not name one Taylor Swift's all. No, he can name 10. Not one, he can name 10. But we have a good listener. Yes, we do. Shall we talk about what we wanted to talk about? Yes, I want to know about these juvenile delinquents are destroying. They're not just, you know, they're not just out late at night. They're, you know, they're not, they are destroying retail establishment. And should mom and dad be held? accountable if in fact they knew somehow that their their child was going to violate curfew and possibly knew they were involved in one of these takeovers. Yes. Should the parents be brought in? Bob's and Sandy tonight. He wants to weigh in on this. Hi, Bob. How are you? Welcome to the Rod and Greg Show. Hi, thank you for taking my call. I just want to build on Greg's idea a little bit. I don't think that kids are a reflection of the parents to a degree. I think there's some kids that just sometimes they want to get back at their parents and they really don't care the effect that it has on mom or dad. They're just rebelling. So I think an idea I got from a credit card company that I worked for is if somebody in the family takes parents credit card and racks up a big bill. The family can either press charges on the family member or the family member is responsible or the family takes care of it. They pay the bill. Like Greg is saying that they should just, you know, pay everything. I don't, I don't think that's always a great idea. I think the parents should maybe, if they're not going to pay the bill, then they should sign their kids over to a work camp. Yeah, Bob, you're right. They lose their freedom and they work, they work until the debt is paid off and maybe some, you know, punitive time too. So they lose their freedom. Yeah, I love that idea, Bob. I think that's great. Why not make them work for the restaurant that they did cause damage to? I love it. Yeah, you know, again, I think we have to reintroduce some shame in terms of people's conduct. And I think that there should be a consequence and they should have to have to pay. Or as Bob said, if the parents are ready to press charge, whatever it may be, but if not... You get the kid to work it off or you get the parents to pay it off. Either way, there's accountability with what happens. The stuff doesn't go unanswered what you're seeing here. It can't happen. But remember years ago, there were stories years ago, and I haven't heard of this of late for a number of years now, where parents would make their kids walk around with a poster on a corner somewhere saying, I did this or I did this. It's my fault that this has happened. They shamed that child. Is that fair to do it? Look, man, I think shame goes a long way. I think there's social mores. I think there's conduct that we are expected to live by. And when you break, when you violate those mores and you've disappointed or worse, the people in your universe, be it your teachers, your parents, your grandparents, when you have shattered their image of you because of your conduct.

I think that's a powerful, powerful lesson. And I think that kids learn from moments like that to be who they're supposed to be, to act the way they're supposed to act. And I think that that consequence, I mean, we all want to say that sounds abusive, shame. No, I do think. I think when kids misbehave, you've got to have a punishment. It's just, by the way, we had a listener that called in or that texted in and said that we do have curfew in the state of Utah. Unincorporates Salt Lake County. If you're 16 years of age or younger, 10 p.m. is a curfew. 16 to 17-year-olds, it's midnight. Now you go to Salt Lake City, you get to live a little more wild. If you're 16 or under, you get to stay out to 11 p.m. If you're over, if you're, if you're under 18, you can stay, but you're, so 17 or 18-year-olds get to stay out until 1 a.m. Other cities like Sandy, West Valley, they're at 10 p.m. at 16 years old and either midnight or 1 a.m. if you're 17 or 18. You can say all that, but I wonder how much it's enforced. Yeah, I don't know. I don't. Who knows? Yeah, I wonder how much of that is enforced. Yeah, I doubt, I doubt any of it. If anyone knows, they can tell us. Yeah. But, no, I think, I think accountability, I think that's part of parenting. I think it's part of growing up. I think it's inevitable that kids are going to do things that their parents aren't going to be happy about, to whatever degree. And let's be honest, as a parent, you've been, you're a parent, I'm a parent. You don't always know what your kids are doing. No, and I've lived through that. I brag about my kids, but it was, you know, there's moments like that. But when those moments come. It's not, it's, you don't get happy me. No. Dad's not happy. I'm not okay. I'm not blowing it off. I'm not saying, oh, well, that's fine. No. No. There's a reaction and there's a consequence. And it's, I've always told my kids, love is free, trust is earned. And that's just the rule. The trust tank. Trust is earned. Yep. All right. More of the Rod and Greg show with you on this Monday. Your calls, your comments, 888-570-10 on your cell phone dial pound 250 or leave us a message on our talkback line. More of the Rod and Greg show is coming up. Well, you know how good that snow is? It's not good at all. Well, we're in a severe drought. Yeah, but if we're going to go through the cold and the snow, we should get something out of it. Well, we'll get a little. No. It'll just all go in the land. They're going to tell us it's worth nothing. All right. If you're just joining us now, we're talking about the U.S. District Attorney for D.C., Janine Piro, is saying that, you know, for thugs out there, teenage thugs who are violating the city's curfew. and causing damage, you know, committing a crime that parents should be held responsible if they know their child is going to break the curfew and have an idea that their child may be involved in some of these criminal activities. She thinks the parent should be held responsible. And I concur. I do. I think there's different ways to do that. I don't want to throw any parent in the cling. No. I'm not saying that, but I do think restitution? Yeah, I like the idea of having their child work it off. Yeah, have the kid work? I think that might even get the parent to go, you know, okay. My mind not said yes before, but if you're Bill and me, Bill the kid. Yeah, Bill the kid. Have them work. Let's go to the phones. Let's go to Tim and Twillow who's been patiently waiting. Tim, thank you for joining us on the Rod and Greg show. Yeah, I think there needs to be some thought to parents who don't have control of their kids, and it's not their doing. The kids have their...

Pre-agency do what they want. They're going to sneak out of the house. They're going to run away. They do things that parents just don't have control over. In my case, we've adopted kids that has some behavioral issues from their prior biological parents. And we've done the best we can, but we can't be held accountable for the actions of our children. When you say all you can, I mean, they don't run your household, do they? I mean, you guys, I mean, Tim, how do you deal with it? Let's take the police and all that out of it. Yeah, I was going to say, let's take all that out of it. How do you run your household if the kids aren't listened to you at all? I mean, maybe it's too personal, but the analogy is that legally the parents ought to be involved. But if under your situation, even if they weren't, as a parent, you can't be, you can't be resigned to that, can you? We can only do so much as far as consequences. We can take away their cell phone. We can disconnect them from Wi-Fi at the house. But there really is a whole lot we can do. I mean, you can't force punishments on them. Otherwise, my wife and I were the ones that gets in trouble with the law. That's true. That's true. Yeah, Tim, well, good luck in your efforts. Yeah, good luck, Tim. I mean, kids are going to do what kids want to do sometimes. And they get to a certain age and, you know, and there are some kids who are very pig-headed the moment they're born. What's up, everybody? It's Bretzky. And America is turning 250. And I can't think of a better way to celebrate that than playing on an American-owned social casino, SpinQuest.com. With all of your favorite games, live craps, bubble craps, live blackjack, there's no better place to play for free and win real cash prizes. SpinQuest.com. SpendQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Boydware prohibited, visit SpenQuest.com for more details. I got my friend, my dumb friend, Dee. He was adopted. Let me tell you something. That was a costly decision from his parents. I'm telling you right now. I mean, you're so mean to Dee. Oh, rightly so. You say you're nice to him, but I saw you at the convention. He was trying to, he was like a spent fuel rod. You were trying to get away from him. He was chewing your ear off. All right, let's go to our talk back to lunch for a comment from one of our listeners. Good evening, Rod and Greg. On this topic, Gen X here, and I'll never forget when I was out past curfew as a teenager, I'll never forget. I had to spend not in jail, and I'll tell you what, I never did it again. And that's the thing about youth. You've got to learn accountability. You've got to learn ownership. You've got to learn consequences for your actions. Thanks, gentlemen. Have a good night. And I say, mom and dad made them spend a night in jail. I love it. I love it. Let me tell you something. That is accountability. And you do learn. I'm telling you, you learn. You learn from consequences. You learn from cops chasing you when you stayed out over past curfew and you're running for your life. You learn. You learn from that. Even if you didn't get caught, like the caller, you don't want to go through that again. You actually do learn that someone's why. If you run into the 5-0, you're in trouble.

And so, yeah. I don't think I've ever shared this story with you. You know my father was a private business. Yes, he was. And he was a pillar of the community. He had grocery stores, Arquette, Superette. Yep, yep. He fired me once. Did he really? My father fired me. Wow. In front of people? Yeah. Wow. Give me your apron. You're out of here. Yeah. He said, you're out of here. You know what? It was a Friday night. And typically on Friday nights, grocery stores are very busy. Yes. I decided to stay at the rank and play hockey for a little bit longer. Oh. I should have been there at about four or five. Didn't get there until about seven. And? And he said, turn around. You're out of here. Wow. And for two weeks, I had no job. Now, some kids would be like, okay, I don't have to go to work. That's all right. But you needed the spending cash. I won the cash. Plus, he wasn't real friendly for a couple of weeks either. Yeah, yeah. Would you have to live with your boss? That would be. Yeah. And he told me a valuable lesson. Be on time. You say you're going to be there, then be there. And for the most part, I'm pretty much good on time. I get there in time when I'm asked to be at it. Me too. I'm Johnny on the spot. I'm a very timely guy. The day that happens, will you let me know? Yeah, I know. You know, folks, I was born two weeks late. I really was. Were you? I was born 13 days, except not 14. So this is why you're late for everything we try and do? I've been on a lag ever since. Yeah, I've been on a lag ever since. I'm telling you I was born. 13 days late, and I have struggled with. I've had time blindness. See, Eric, now we know why he's always late for things. Yes. All right. More coming up on the Rotting Greg Show and more of your calls right here on Utah's Talk Radio, 1059, KNRS. Report over the weekend that Cuba has purchased about, is it 300 drones? Yes, since 2023. Yeah. They've got 300 of these long range. They can go 1,500 miles, 600 to 1,500 miles. They can hold up to 100 pounds of... Explosives. One-way trips, these drones. And there's an Axios report, which I don't hold Axios in the highest regard, but they say they got intelligence, leaked intelligence reports that says that Cuba has it. 300 of these things they can send over to go after our critical infrastructure in the state of Florida. Well, we're going to talk about that coming up at 605, but right now we want to go back. Let's go to our talkback lines. We're talking about a parent's responsibility if their child violates a curfew and is, in fact, involved in some sort of criminal activity. Where do mom and dad fall in all of this? Let's go to our talkback lines. Greg, here's one of the comments from one of our listeners. Hello, Rod and Greg. This is Steve from Leighton, Utah. Parents are already responsible for their child's conduct until they're 18 years old. So why is this a surprise? If the kid does something illegal, then go after the parents. Yeah. 18 years old. Yeah. That's right. They should. They don't, but they should. Yeah, yeah. Well, they've got a lot to do.

Well, I'm saying that I think what we just said is absolutely true, but you don't see them financially pursue those parents. No, no. For the damage that kids do. That's true. Here's another comment on our talkback line. Ages need to have natural consequences for the poor choices that they make. And then there, of course, would be natural consequences for good choices. Yeah. For instance, with damage to a restaurant, great idea to have the culprits do as much as possible to repair the damage. Yeah, repair the damage. Get in there and clean it up and then work for him. That's right. I'm telling you that that's, I mean. Look, I get it. The kids can be bad. They can do things you don't want them to do. But I don't think you live under a state of your kids are ruling the roost. I mean, you can't. You got to give it your best effort. You have to. And so I, you know, and I get what our caller said about, you know, can't get too rough on them. But I just can't, they're minors. You can't just say, oh, well, I guess that's it. They'll do whatever they want because I can't stop them. I think what our last, that that talkback line says is that there's consequences for good. decisions and there's consequences for bad decisions and if there's not a natural reaction in that way i think these kids start to think that they can do anything they want and look i like the reward too i like that she added that too we're not just talking about the punishment part there's the upside is that the kids you know trust is earned you you gave more trust as they earn trust i wonder if more if kids are more difficult to raise nowadays than they were in our time Because you could beat kids in our time. That's what difference. Teachers could beat kids. I got paddled three times in the seventh grade. I had to hold on to a chair, and I got paddled three times in a public school. This isn't even a Catholic school. These aren't nuns beating me. These are public school teachers. Do not talk to me about punishment with the nuns. Yeah. Because they have free reign. You know, there's three different teachers. You know why? Because I only had to get paddled once. Yeah. What was that? As a clicker. I only had to get paddled once by a teacher, and then they had to have any more trouble for me. But three teachers that year had to give me that lesson. But you're right. You can't discipline kids in school anymore. I mean, you know, I have a little grandson who said a word that it was disciplined for. It was just having fun. He didn't mean anything, aren't. But he was disciplined. Depends on what the word is. Well, it wasn't what you were thinking. Okay. It's not that word. Was he a swear bear? No, he's not a swear bear. Okay. This is what you would think are kind of a common word that kids use. Okay. But he got disciplined for it. I'm going, you're kidding me. Don't get soft now. We've been talking about being tough on these kids. Your grandpa's already getting soft. No. Sorry, the kid needs to go through. He's paddled probably. For the word? Probably he needs paddled for that. No, no. Let's get back. No. The word was, I'm not going to go there. I'm not going to embarrass him. No, don't. But I'm not going to. Very simple word. All right. More coming up. Hour number three of the Rotting Greg Show.

I don't know even if we can get into much of this. No, it's a family show. Yeah, details are rather lurid. Yes. Blue. Blue. Yes. And we'll talk about what we can coming up here this hour. But we want to get to this story. First of all, a story came out over the weekend about the U.S. apparently concerned about attack drone threats from Cuba. It's a wild story. Since 2023, apparently there's 300 drones long range can go up to, can reach Florida and can pack a punch in terms of explosives that they can deliver. And it has said that these drones could potentially target critical infrastructure in Florida. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's why we wanted to bring our next guest back on. We had him on a couple of weeks ago talking about Cuba. He did such a great job, had so much information that we wanted to bring him back on and get some senses to what's going on here. His name is Stefano Ridendale. He is the chief intelligence officer at Oratorio. How are you? And welcome back to the Rod and Greg Show. Thanks for joining us. Good evening. Thank you so much for having me. It's truly an honor. All right. Give us an idea. What do you make of this drone story coming out of Cuba? Well, you know, this is something that's, you know, it's a very interesting development and kind of reinforces, I think, something that the Trump administration has been really trying to highlight with Cuba, Venezuela, Russia, China, and Iran is kind of this. You know, it's this modern day access of evil from the Bush administration. But in a way, I mean, it's kind of true. Cuba has always been a key ally and supporter of both Iran and Russia. And it's not necessarily surprising that, especially after the developments in Venezuela, but even before that, that they were concerned of their security leverage Iran and Russia for support. And it does look like that the Iranians and the Russians sent these attack drones more than likely Shahed 136 to Cuba as a way of deterrence against the United States. So do you put weight into this leaked intelligence report or however it's being reported that there could be up to 300 of these drones? And if so, should we be worried about that? Or does Trump's show of strength mean that that's something that's already been anticipated and can be handled if Cuba ever went to that length? So I would always tell people who, you know, when we're looking at reports of leaks of intelligence reports, there's always more details that are never going to get kind of to the leak to the press. Number one, what was the mythology that they would use to, for example, was the confidence level? Was this low, medium or high confidence intelligence report? Obviously, we're not going to know the sources of methods. So there's always a lot of things that are missing. And in this specific Axios report, I've talked about the 300 drones, they don't even identify which it is. Based on the fact that it's Russia and Iran, it's likely to assume that it might have been the Shahed 136, but obviously it's open to interpretation. I think the fact that the United States is aware of this capability clearly shows that we have ways of mitigating it. But for those who might not be familiar, if it's the Shahed 136 or similar types of those drones, we just have to look at the situation Iran and the Middle East in the war there and how Iranian drones proved to be very effective and lethal against especially civilian targets in the Gulf.

And obviously that's a concern for the United States and in Florida. So if there's military actions, obviously they can use these capability as a threat. But I think the United States military and Air Force primarily would be posture to address it as quickly as possible and even try to destroy these assets if there's a military conflict before they're even launched against the United States. Stefano, the director of the CA, John Ratcliffe, John Ratcliffe, I'm sorry, traveled to Cuba last week and had some meetings with Cuban officials. What do you make of this and what are they talking about, do you think? What's going on, everyone? It's Bluff here, and we're driving through the States in the BluffMobile, and the best thing that we can do is play our favorite casino-style games on SpinQuest. They have over 1,000 games, including Live Dealer, Blackjack, and craps, with tons of slots and unlimited. You can get a $30 coin pack for just $10 for new users. Sign up today. Go to SpinQuest.com right now. SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit spendquest.com for more details. I mean, that was a very interesting development, right? And I think the key aspect of these conversations is I think the Trump administration would rather reach an agreement with the Cubans that does not require military force similar to what we saw in Venezuela against Maduro or even again, what we received recently against Iran. And they're really pushing this at the issue that the Cuban economy is in a free fall. I mean, we talked about this previously where, you know, the oil embargo is really putting Cuba at a standstill for an economic and an energy perspective where it's easier to count how many hours Cuba has electricity than they don't. And I think the fact that you see Director John Ratcliffe going, we're seeing a lot of reports that there are conversations with members of the communist government, even some family members of Raul Castro, specifically his grandson. It does indicate that there is trying to put diplomatic pressure and direct negotiations to achieve as a result, because we also got reporting that, you know, Fidel Castro's brother, the former leader of Cuba, Rao Castro, not to be confused with his grandson. might be indicted by the Department of Justice. So I think the Trump administration is doing multiple pressure points and then sending the director of the CIA to have these conversations with Cuba as a way to see, hey, let's get into an agreement diplomatically and achieve our own and states and Cuba probably. might be playing hardball but i think they're getting the message you know that was going to be my question uh was uh there's rumor of this indictment of rao castro uh and i was going to ask you if you felt that there was any merit to that but i'll ask you this instead because you did you already referenced it i i would have thought weeks ago that we would wake up one morning and find out that a regime change has occurred they've they've run out of money or of fuel and i keep thinking that every single day but yet every day here we are

Do you think something as big is about to happen in Cuba or are we just going to be in this unknown for a long time? Well, I mean, I think right now, from a military perspective, clearly Iran is still the priority. But, I mean, we can look at the situation in Iran. They just got off of a devastating war. And right now, they're running into very similar situations in the Cuban economy. It's in a free fall, right? I mean, they have long gas lines. There's gas shortages. The internet blackout has been going on for months. Their economic output in manufacturing has basically granted to a halt. And yet... the regime is still able to survive, right? Just because there's an economic crisis and economic problems doesn't necessarily mean that a regime is going to collapse or there's going to be defections within the regime. It's a possibility, but it's not a certainty. And I think that's a conversation we're also going to have with Cuba, who in the 90s had very hard economic times. I mean, I think when we're talking about Cuba today, we compare it to the 90s because the 90s was also devastating with the loss of the Soviet Union. And the Castro's were able to survive. And I think that's the issue that we're running into that the United States is going to try to find a lot of ways. Can it work? Can they find somebody willing to negotiate and be kind of this new partner in Cuba? Absolutely. But I think there's going to have to be a lot more pressure until we get there. I saw a story last week, Stefano. I want to get your reaction to this. If you have any more information. But I thought the headline said Cuba basically doesn't have any oil left. Is that true or what are you hearing about that? I mean, that is significantly, like, almost there, right? I mean, they have very little oil. The problem that the Cuban government has right now is one. Their maid backer used to be Maduro, President Maduro, with Venezuela, with him gone in the acting president, Desi Rodriguez, although the Venezuelan president might claim, you know, this socialist, Bolivarian solidarity with the Cubans is not going to challenge the United States and has been very acquiescence in support of our demands, right? The other country to look at would be Mexico, especially within the new kind of the new administration, Cratus Claudia Sheinbaum and her predecessor on this, Mandred Milópez Obrador, from the Moreno, political party generally have been much more affinning and politically lenient to the Cubans. Right now, the Mexicans are just sending humanitarian aid, not really sending oil. The only real oil we got, ironically, came from a Russian oil tanker a couple weeks ago that it does, you know, that the U.S. allowed to answer into Cuba. But it's too little and not enough. But again, the question then becomes, yes, we see economic blackouts. Yes, we see Cuba is economic free-for-all and all the problems of that causes. But then the question is, does that then translate or end with, let's say, mass protests and the regime collapsing? And unfortunately, there's a lot of steps until we get there. There's a lot of pressure points. There's a lot of problems.

But we haven't even seen mass protests as we saw a couple years ago, like 2021-22 hit Cuba yet. We're close, maybe. We are seeing the tensions. We are seeing the problems, but not enough yet to see the collapse of the communist government. So I guess final question for me, at least, is I think that our Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, understands. I mean, he's an immigrant from his family's immigrated from Cuba. I think there's an appreciation there. He represented the state of Florida as a senator. Do you see a role, whenever it happens or if it happens, what would that role look like? Is it a second in command like in Venezuela of an existing government? that takes over but will work with the United States, or do you think that they will eradicate communism in a state like that? And what does the role of Marco Rubio, a secretary of state, play in a future for Cuba? I think based on the conversations and the reporting that we're getting that they're having these dialogues with Rao Castro's grandson, who's also named Raul Castro, it does indicate that they would like to work with an element of the communist government that is willing to open transitional government or willing to open up the country to the United States and kind of end these decade rule, communist rules and antagonistic foreign relations to the United States. And more importantly, I think the United States wants to ensure that Cuba does not become. a bedrock of either China or Russia, who have historically used Cuba to kind of challenge the United States. Obviously, China right now has multiple spy bases and signal intelligence bases in the island, directed of the United States. Clearly, the United States wants to remove that and kind of falls within this new, you know, Don Roe doctrine, you know, the Monroe Doctrine of the Western Hemisphere is stable and secure for the United States. I think we learned the lessons from Iraq in 2003 that completely overthrowing. regime causes a lot of unintended consequences that can be worse. So I think that's why they want to work with some elements of the communist government of the grandson of Roel Castro. And similar to Venezuela, work that way as Adelzi Rodriguez. I think the Raul Castro grandson is the new Delci Rodriguez. But just as in Venezuela, I mean, it has shown improved as not only economically and diplomatic, but even internally inside of Venezuela politically, I mean, We're starting to see democracy co-up. We're starting to the opposition, started to be more active. We're starting to see slowly but surely signs of some political liberalization. And I think the long-term goal that Marco Rubio will play in a key and integral part, at least during this administration, is to continue to do that for Cuba. It's going to be interesting to watch. Stefano, we love your insight into all of this. I know we'll be talking again. Thank you. Thank you so much for having me, gentlemen. It was a pleasure. All right. On our newsmaker line, that's Stefano Ridendale, bring some interesting information. You wonder, Greg, what is it going to take to break Iran and to break Cuba?

I think the people have very patient, but at this point, what's it going to take? It's going to take the people living the way they are and not willing to live that way any longer. So I do. I think it's going to have to come from the people. It's not going to come from the United States and USAID, I'll tell you that. So it needs to come from the people of those respective countries. More coming up. Rod and Greg with you on this Monday. He's done. I mean, he's done. There were two other candidates, one endorsed by Donald Trump, one. That's right. So let's keep some scores here recently. Indiana state senators who blocked redistricting, gone. Gone. Republican U.S. senator who voted to impeach Trump has been, wouldn't let Cassie Means, who is going to be his nominee for a surgeon general, amongst other things that he has done to push back. Trump did not support him, supported an opponent. He didn't just get into a runoff. He is out. Third. He's third. Now, Tommy Thomas Massie? Thomas Massie, up for election tomorrow, primary election in Kentucky, the Kentucky 4th Congressional District, I believe, right? Harry Enton decided to take a look at the numbers for Thomas Massie and see where his support stands now. It's not a pretty picture. Look at this. Chance that Thomas Massie is, in fact, the Kentucky 4 GOP nominee. It has been falling considerably over the last 10 days, according to the cash prediction market. Look at this. It was 71% 10 days ago. Look where that number is now. It's 44%. So chances more likely than not, though it is very close, very close, that Thomas Massie will, in fact, go down to defeat. But again... We're just going to have to wait and see the votes getting cast and counted because this is quite close. But any time that incumbent member of Congress goes down, he has done something seriously wrong in the minds of the voters. And in this case, if Thomas Massie goes down, it is that he crossed Donald John Trump. From 71% to 44% in a matter of days. Yeah, well, I'm going to tell you this. So if you don't know Thomas Massie's history, he is a staunch conservative he says. But what he ends up doing is voting with the Democrats every single time on anything that would actually move the needle. And this, he is the quintessential perfect is the enemy of good. And when you have a, what, three member majority in the House, it is just intellectually and. and practically impossible that all of your members of Congress that represent all the different districts in America are going to agree in mirror image of each other on every issue. And you have to move the needle. And if you find yourself continually voting with the Democrats to stop any Republican majority from getting anything done, then you're a problem. And that's what he is. But he has more problems. Yeah, he sure does. Well, there are reports out tonight day before the election now that Thomas Massie. Kind of's been hanging around with other women. Shortly after his wife died.

within two months after his wife died. So he was kind of a nerdy guy on Capitol Hill, you know, glasses. He didn't have really any sense of style. And then his wife, and we don't, I don't know the details of it. And not much is said of it, but she tragically passed away. They were married for 31 years. He went through kind of a makeover. He started getting a little more style. He got a new hairdo. Got contacts. He started walking, you know, started getting new suits. And he started strutting around. Well, it turns out, according to some sources, Um, this wasn't just a makeover. No. Uh, by appearance that he became a bit amorous. Yeah. In Congress. A little bit. And with members as well as other. So it, these are reports. These are just merely reports. Just reports out tonight. But, um. He's been kind of getting around, as he said. And he ended up, I think he ended up getting a girlfriend real quick after she died, who I think he married. I don't think this is conjecture. I think this is true. He ended up getting married again. Or he's got, no, maybe he's got a steady girlfriend. Yeah, steady girlfriend. That is well known to be his girlfriend. But before that happened, apparently he had a little something with a member of Congress. Yes. Who, by the way, over the weekend, came out and endorsed him. Yeah. Go figure. I wonder why. Well, Donald Trump. not to let a moment get away, decided to weigh in on this. This is what he had to say today about the Thomas Massie vote tomorrow. I'm in the Oval Office, and we're in a fight against the worst congressman in the history of our country. His name is Thomas Massie. He's from Kentucky. I hope you're going to put him out of business tomorrow. He is so bad. Got an election coming up. He's running against a great guy, a great patriot. Ed Gilrain, he's fantastic. But forget that. Thomas Massie's the worst congressman in the history of our country, always voting against Republicans and good values. So get rid of Thomas Massie. Was that strong enough from the press? Get rid of the guy. Not very veiled in his message. He wasn't holding many cards close to the chest as he explained how he feels about this member of Congress. I don't think he likes him. No, he does not. And I think he'd like to get rid of him. You know, over the weekend, he put on his truth social media site a picture of Thomas Massie and his girlfriend that he hooked up with like six weeks after his wife died without explanation, just the two of them. All just heads together, posing together. He just put that picture out there. Draw whatever conclusion you're like. Yeah. Vote tomorrow. Be interesting to watch. Oh, I'll say. Will the same fate face one Thomas Massie that has already done away with Bill Cassidy? Well, you know, I just think practically speaking, it's hard to... You know, to have him in Congress when you have such a thin majority. And the midterms are going to be rough. We'll be very, very lucky to retain the majority. And a guy like him, he's just voting with the Democrats every time. Yeah, just because he doesn't like Trump.

And he's just, he acts like I'm, he's being pure. But if you're always voting with the Democrats to overcome the Republican majority, you're not pure there. That's not a pure moment. No, that isn't. All right, we've got more to come. Final half hour of the Rod and Greg show is on its way on Utah's talk radio, 1059, KNRS. We've got some great Memorial Day weekend programming coming your way this weekend as we get ready for Memorial Day. Can you believe it's already Memorial Day? It is. There's snow in the mountains. Today. Today. It won't be there very long, but there was snow on the mountains there today. It won't make it any. It's not going to be any runoff either. It's just going to absorb into the ground. Yeah, not going to help us a whole lot. All right. Hanging out at the pool is great. Relaxing and playing Vegas-style games on my phone at the same time. Drink in one hand and a blackjack in the other. It's all at SpinQuest. Over a thousand games including your favorite slots and table games. Be cool with this summer special. New players get $30 coin packs for 10 at SpinQuest.com. SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit spinquest.com for more details. We have had over the past, I can't remember how long, Greg, numerous stories about tragic accidents involving illegal truck drivers. Truck drivers that can't even speak English for crying out loud. They can't follow. They don't know the road signs. They don't understand what they're doing, and we've seen horrific accidents as a consequence to that. Yeah, well, joining us on our newsmaker line to talk more about this and the fact that... justice may be coming their way is uh adam coleman adam is founder of wrong speak publishing also a contributor to the new york post adam how are you and welcome to the rod and gregg show thanks so much for joining us tonight adam yeah thanks for having me back on all right adam uh where are we headed with this you say justice is coming for victims of these dangerous accidents what's going on Yeah, basically what's happened with the Supreme Court ruling, because the trucking industry has been operating off of brokers. They're basically middlemen between the companies that are shipping something, let's say Amazon and the trucking companies, the companies that are actually own the trucks and operating them. And they've been operating as middlemen who seemingly have immunity. So if a trucking company gets into a crash, Um, they've been dodging suit because they're saying, hey, listen, all we did was connect you to them. You have to sue the trucking company. And what the Supreme court said is no, the brokers can be held liable. if they're negligent in their duties. And what that looks like in the trucking world is if you're giving loads to a bad trucking company, which they can look up. They can look up their service records. They can look up violations. They can look up all that stuff. And so if they are a bad trucking company that you're constantly giving loads to and they cause a tragic accident, you can be held liable for not doing your due diligence.

And that has sent shockways throughout the trucking industry. I mean, we may actually see changes because of consequences, of course, but now actual victims could sue the, the brokers. So I've heard from, I've heard representative of this brokerage, you know, economic sector of trucking brokerages say this is going to destroy trucking. This is going to destroy our ability to get goods and service, get goods across the country. It's already a tough job. It's just been made impossible now. But I can't help but think there has to be some accountability. There has to be checks and balances here. They can't, as you've pointed out, if they're failing to do due diligence and they're putting some of these people. giving them loads and they are wholly unprepared for that job. I do think it's natural that there should be some accountability there. What do you say about from this industry that says that this Supreme Court decision is going to wipe out the trucking industry as we know it? Well, I would say that's nonsense because brokers weren't a necessity in the trucking industry since its existence. The growth in brokers is something that is recent. And you can say maybe that's made things more efficient when it comes to shipping certain things. But what used to happen was that the trucking industry was a high trust industry. So which means a shipper would work with certain trucking companies because they had good reputations because they had good relationships. And so when the brokers came in, that relationship between the trucking company that's actually shipping the goods and the shippers was severed. And the brokers stepped in and said, we'll find you the best rates. And so everything became a financial goal of finding the cheapest possible service. Hence why the illegal immigrants who are driving the trucks, who are, by the way, doing the short end of the stick for this entire equation, it leads to them hiring illegal immigrants so they can undercut them, use them as indentured servants. And the ones who are hiring the illegal immigrants are usually connected with organized crime or just shady operations who have terrible records. But for the brokers, they made it to the point where they just don't care. They're looking at the lowest dollar amount for each load that comes out. So if they can undercut an American trucking company, the brokers don't care. So the brokers created this problem and the brokers are going to suffer because of what they've done. they became too greedy. Adam, what does this do for states like New York and California, which apparently allowed illegal truckers in this country? They gave them CDLs to go ahead and drive these big rigs. How does this impact states like California, New York, who've been kind of giving these things away like candy? Well, the CDL part is a different element. And this is nationwide. Here's how you have to see it. If the brokers become liable because XYZ shipping or XYZ trucking hires a bunch of illegal immigrants out of California and they cause a deadly crash, if they can be held liable to that, then they're going to say, we're not going to give our loads to a shady trucking company where we can look up the records.

and they have English language proficiency violations and all that stuff, they're going to change course and go to more reputable shippers, which reputable shippers don't hire illegal immigrants. I mean, it's just not a thing. So that's the consequence element is going to drown them out. And what people have to understand is the only reason illegal immigrants are even taking loads is because the brokers are the middlemen from the shippers. So Amazon may not know that this load is going into the truck that's driven by an illegal immigrant because the brokers are only looking at the dollar amount. And so if they stop looking just at the dollar amount and start vetting them on the basis of their quality as far as trucking companies, then the demand for illegal immigrants or even the ability for illegal immigrants to drive these trucks is going to shrink. And I think it's already starting to happen. So, Adam, this is just an opinion on your part. I'm just curious what you would say. The consequence, one side is going to say, wow, when you do this, you add nothing but costs because if it's more expensive for the trucking to occur, even for the best of reasons, that cost is going to get passed on to consumers. So this is just going to make the whole thing more expensive. But what I've heard you say and how this whole brokerage industry emerged. Do you think that it's an acceptable increase in costs, or do you disagree with the premise, or do you think that the brokerage industry itself wasn't there before and doesn't necessarily have to be there today, that you can have those relationships between trucking companies and those that want to ship, and the brokers, that part just, that was adding cost, maybe another layer to the whole process. So I always want to preface, I'm not a trucking expert, but I've been deep diving this topic because I've been working on my documentary for many months and talking to experts. And so this is just purely my opinion. Brokers can exist. I have no problem with brokers existing. If there's a service that's needed, then let the service exist. The problem is if the brokers only care about the dollar amount, then they are polluting the They're the ones who are actually destroying the trucking industry. So when you have trucking companies that have existed for three, four, five decades, who no longer can survive because the illegal immigrant truck driver and the company that hires them will do it for half the cost and get there twice as fast. That is actually destroying the trucking industry. So I would, I would make the argument that the broker is becoming extremely greedy and incredibly reckless under the guise of immunity has allowed for them to destroy an American profession, which. By the way, we talk about young men having economic opportunities and even, you know, people who are coming out of jail, people who are looking for a working class job where they can make a good income and take care of their families. That's the trucking industry. And so they've been part of this equation of destroying the trucking industry, especially over the past, especially since COVID. And one quick thing I would say is.

As far as the rates, oh, the price isn't going to go up. I would make the argument that we've been living under a fake trucking economy. That's what it sounds like to me. It's like it's, it's a, oh, the rates are so cheap. Yeah, they're cheap because we're doing it illegally. That's why the rates are cheap. It's not a proper economic situation. It is a boom from that standard. And they made a killing. So you can look at all these big brokers. They doubled, even tripled their profits during COVID because that's when Biden led all these illegal immigrants there. And everyone exploited the system. So we've been having a fake fucking economy. We need to have a legitimate one. Adam, as always great insight. Yes, it really is. Good luck with your documentary. Thank you very much for joining us. Thank you. On our newsmaker line, that's Adam Coleman. He is the founder of WrongSpeak Publishing, also a contributor to the New York Post. More coming up here on the Rod and Greg Show and Talk Radio, 1059 KNRS. I want to ask you if you've ever heard this song before. 1-877 cars for kids.

Once that jingle gets in your head, you can't get rid of it, right? That's right. Well, a judge in California has now ruled that that ad cannot air on broadcast stations in California. They say it is deceptive advertising. Not all the money goes to underprivileged kids. Where does it go? A civil trial has found out. Spoiled kids? Kids in Beverly Hills? No, well, let me share that with you. Kids getting fat on step. According to evidence presented, a judge has violated for years, the charity, broadcasting the ads, right? Evidence presented at a civil trial showed that children, especially needy or underprivileged children, were not the exclusive recipients. of the proceeds instead cars for kids primarily funds a new jersey based organization which provides programs including an adult matchmaking service well that doesn't sound like it has anything to do with cars or kids that doesn't does a matchmaking service also gives away trips to kids uh no judges ruled the separate so they have one month to take it off the air in california people if you donated a car you went your car back that's what you'd want you'd want something back now I think you talked about this last week. Spencer Pratt. Yes. He's a jargonaut. Yes. Coming up with some very... We had a guest on to talk about him. Very creative ads. Yes. Well, he's released a couple more today. This one I find fascinating. Okay. I want to set it up for you a little bit. It's at the end of a yoga class. Okay. Primarily, liberal women in California. Very attractive women, right? And a yoga class. And then they have a conversation in the locker room. Listen to how this is set up. All right, class, great job today. Hey, I have to tell you something. Promise you won't get mad. I'm voting for Spencer Brad. Get mad? I'm voting for Spencer Pratt, too. Did someone mention Spencer Pratt? Um, no. No. Oh. Because I'm actually voting for him. Oh, so are we. I just don't know if we can say that too loud over here. Say what? Spencer Pratt? Um, he's got my vote. Wait, is everyone here voting for Spencer Pratt?

This woman just says, ah, I'm among friends because all these women who you would think would be voting for Bath or whatever her name is, is going to be voting for Spencer Pratt, creative. And that's just one of many. I don't know who's doing his political campaigns, Greg, but they are very good. You know, and our guest thought that this is making such an impact, but it would be a long shot for him to maybe get actually get elected. Yeah. Well, I will tell you that whatever impact he has, and I don't know how much of the of the idiocy you can handle if not voting for Pratt, I don't know. But if he doesn't, I think this type, if it's authentic, this type of advertising will be the future. You'll see much more of this with candidates because I think the humor. and the realism of it all. Yeah. Even the stuff that's AI generated where they use Star Wars bad guys to look at it. I think all of that will be the campaigns of the future. And it's using social media. Well, 100%. 100% social media on that. That will be interesting to see how it affects future campaigns. All right, that does it for us tonight. Good to be back with you. Good. Welcome back. As we say, head up. As we say, head up, shoulders back. May God bless you and your family, this great country of ours. We're back tomorrow at full. Hanging out at the pool is great. Relaxing and playing Vegas-style games on my phone at the same time. Drink in one hand and a blackjack in the other. It's all at SpinQuest. Over a thousand games including your favorite slots and table games. Be cool with this summer special. New players get $30 coin packs for 10 at SpinQuest.com. SpinQuest is a free-to-play social casino. Avoid where prohibited. Visit spinquest.com for more details.