The Rod and Greg Show: When Will Gas Prices Drop? Plus, Study on School Cell Phone Bans

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that is affecting those on the left. A mind virus, I would argue. A mind virus is taking place. So we've got a lot to get to. But I want to start off the show today, Greg. This is a follow-up to a story that I think we had last Friday. As I recall, remember the story about two guys holding up a lemonade stand? Yes. Back in the Boston area, right? These poor kids, they made 80 bucks and selling lemonade too, which must have been good lemonade. Yeah, well, a 14-year-old boy who flashed a gun. He's 14, Greg. While holding up a children's lemonade stand last week has now been charged with two counts of armed or robbery. Well, at least they cared enough to find a kid and do it. A lot of these crimes go, you know, they become the mysteries because nobody cares enough to go find. No detective work going on nowadays, but we found this kid good. Yeah, they did. By the way, he, as I mentioned, he was carrying a gun. Boy, he also faces two charges of unlawful possession of a firearm. Yeah, he's young enough too that the juvenile system can serve. Like he can do some time in the juvenile system. Sometimes under 16, they got a year before they're a juvenile. It's hard to really... punish someone, you know, without treating him like an adult. But at 14, they got them. They're the book at them. All right. I don't know if we were expecting fireworks today or not. I don't think we got them, Greg, but we got a lot of weird questions today for JD Vance, who's out promoting his brand new book. He was on The View today. I don't know how much of you have watched. I just thought some of the questions were weird. And we knew that was coming. I mean, we've had this discussion on the show, and that is that you're going to go on the View, and you know that it's going to be ridiculous. Now, we like it because... The view never disappoints. Their blather is just, we just like to show it for the absurdity of it all. And they have not disappointed. They have stayed very much on brand. But I hear a narrative out there that, and the late Andrew Breitbart used to believe in this. You don't seed those spaces to all the lunatics and the left. You go in there and you mix it up a bit. You go ahead and give them something to think about, even if they don't like it. Get in there and give it a shot. So I think, I think JD Vance is following kind of that. Andrew Breitbart approach of. I'm not going to run away from these people. And if they get crazy, he's smart enough to give an answer. Well, he didn't today. And there are a lot of questions that were raised. But this is one. He brought up the fact that years ago he did not support Donald Trump. But now he's his vice president. He was asked to comment on that. It's been well covered that I was a critic of Donald Trump back in 2015 and 2016. Now, obviously, I'm sitting here as the vice president of the United States in the Trump administration. Well, Joy, a little humility, actually. I think that when you make predictions and those predictions turn out to be false, you've got to ask yourself, well, what made me wrong about that? What did I not understand or not appreciate? For example, I said that Donald Trump's economic policies would not lead to wage growth. They did in the first term. That was actually a major, major thing. I said that we couldn't bring back any of those factory jobs because I kind of had given into this idea that those jobs were disappearing. But actually, Donald Trump, you saw a manufacturing boom during that administration. So there's a certain point where you say, you know,

I made predictions about this. I ended up being wrong. And in politics and anything, I think it's important to say, you know what? I got some things wrong and I was wrong about him. Yeah, okay. So there's his response about supporting Donald Trump. But Greg, they got in. Everyone got their little digs in. You knew they were going to do it on JD Vance. He handled it well. But this is the one that's getting the most attention. The question came from Whoopi Goldberg. What did black people do? to this administration that has allowed it to really stigmatize folks of color. And you know how hard it is. You have, you have folks to color in your family. Sure. So when you see, you know, things, the Emmett Till stuff coming down or them doing all kinds of removal of information, of black heroes, how do you, how do you, how does that sit with you? Well, what exactly are you talking about whoope? Because you just, I know Emmett Till was, I can tell you all the second. No, no, I want to know what she's, you don't know what I'm talking about. So in, in a lot of the.

Museums. There's so many. I just, you know, where they're taking down the actual history that happened in this country. Slavery happened. All kinds of stuff happened. And it seems that it has been very easy for this administration to remove that and also to denigrate black. folks who have worked their behinds off to get this American dream. You know, it's so funny about that question. Well, there are a number of things that were just, that question was way out there. But she couldn't, she couldn't cite any examples of what she's talking about because she doesn't have any. It's just the narrative that is floating out there that the Trump administration is against black people. Well, yeah, there are so many examples I can't think of a single one. There's so many out there. I just don't even know how I can land on a single one. You hear people kind of flee to that, you know, nonsense school answer when you push him back on what they're saying. A lot of people used to do this about Rush Limbaugh. They say, I can't stand him. He's a blowhard. I don't like him. Tell me what you don't like. John Daly here. You know what day it is? Neither do I. I live life daily. That's why I only spend on Moto Casino. Modo's got daily free bonuses, daily tournaments, new slots out of daily. And the best part, guaranteed daily jackpots. You can't beat that. So today's the day you're gripping and spend it with me on Modo. America's Social Casino. Play for free on moto.com.

Silence. Yeah. Because they've never listened to it. They've never listened to it. You're right. You're right. But they heard that enough that they wanted to repeat that line. Okay, tell me what you hate. What did you hear that you hated? Crickets. They don't know. They don't know. They just, they heard that line. They thought they could repeat it back themselves. She doesn't have an example. No. Look, Burgess Owens, he's not told me Greg. You know, they're just wiping out all the. Black heroes and black slavery stories and history of America. It's all getting wiped out. I haven't heard that from anyone. The premise that she asked that question, I don't think it's real. That's the democratic narrative, though. It's unbelievable. Attack, attack, and they can't cite examples. They just make this up, and then they expect us to believe it. The one being that if you're, that all of America was not founded on individual liberty, religious freedom. This was all about slavery and greed. That was the premise and the motivation for the founding of this country. Now, if you don't subscribe to that, you're not trying to remove, whether it's slavery from our American history or heroes or figures of our American, but the premise that that's how this country started, that's a recent rewrite of history that we don't subscribe to because it's not real. And that needs to be corrected, but that's not taking away. the existence of our history or the important people that made history. That's for sure. All right. When we come back, we'll talk about gas prices. Are they coming down? If not, when will they? We'll talk about that. Coming up on the Rod and Greg show on this Tuesday afternoon on Talk Radio, 1059, can't arrest this memorandum of understanding. Apparently, between the United States and around, the president said, to make sure everybody gets it right, he may hold the news conference and read it word for word. I think he should. I really do. I think there is such wide speculation as to what this MOU has inside of it. He ought to read it verbatim. Maybe. Because there's no three, I think on the five, we heard the Jessica woman say there's a $300 billion, you know, sugar pot waiting for them if they sign it. They're going to get $300 billion. The president has said that's absolutely false. So has Vice President JD Vance. So that's not true. What is true? Yeah, yeah. All right, well, we'll find out. But what about gas prices right now? Well, joining us on our any hour newsmaker line to talk about that is Patrick DeHan, a good friend of the show, senior petroleum analyst with gasbuddy.com. Patrick, you probably get this question asked every day, every minute, when are gas prices coming down? Well, you know, the good news there is that across the majority of the nation, we've already been seeing gas prices drop in the last five weeks. And now that could be extended with this MOU. for the U.S. and Iran agreement to reopen the strait. The national average fell back below $4 for the first time since mid-April, and oil prices today fell to their lowest level since early March, but there's still a long way to go. Gas prices have come down 51 cents from a month ago, but they're still up 84 cents from last year. And it's that decline back to pre-war prices that will probably greatly outpace the amount of time needed to reopen the stray. We probably could see prices that remain above their year ago level into late this year or early next year. And I'm still hoping that this whole deal doesn't unravel in the next few days. There's a lot of details here, Congress poking on what this deal entails, and there's still the potential that Israel could launch new attacks on Hezbollah.

So still a lot that needs to overcome, but ultimately, if and one, the straight does reopen, it certainly will be great news that will push gas prices down for the next couple weeks. You know, I can understand that with the uncertainty of the MOU, MOUs are not assigned treaties or anything like that. But the one thing I noticed was that when this conflict began in February and the straight-or-Hermuz became a straight that I heard of for the first time on the news. of this happening, you saw gas prices immediately at the pump. It didn't take the time it would take to get the more expensive crude into their tanks. It was on the news. They rose. It went up. So when I hear sometimes people say, well, and it hasn't been you, but others say, well, you know, it takes a while to get that gas, the gas refined and it's, you know, it has to come back in. Isn't it once the news is certain, and I think that's what you were pointing to, when the news is certain that the straight is open and you see the commodity price drop. On that news, will we see the price of gasoline drop at the pumps? Yeah, there's a chronic misunderstanding. A lot of Americans look at futures prices, and they say that, wait a minute, that's the price for oil delivered in July, and they're not wrong. But what a lot of Americans don't understand about energy markets is that while I look at futures, there's also the spot price of oil and gasoline. And people have the misconception that oil that might be delivered in July at $77 a barrel. that you can't trade based on that today. There are spot markets, too. It's just that Americans don't see the spot prices because generally... businesses that operate exchanges, they make the more frequent data expensive and you have to subscribe to it, just like you can get a stock quote that's delayed 30 minutes for free. But if you want a real-time stock quote, you have to pay for a subscription. So oil markets trade in a lot of different ways. There's a lot of ways to hedge oil. There's futures. I mean, look at stocks. There's options. There's outright purchases. So oil markets generally, there are the futures prices, yes. But what Americans don't also see is that the spot price of oil, which is traded a different way, those prices go up immediately. Because as soon as the U.S. attacked Iran, Iran very quickly, I think it was within a day, said that they're shutting the straight. And immediately, you saw oil couldn't get to the market anymore. So, you know, the spot market dictates the futures price. And, you know, if you're looking at both of these spot and futures prices and analysts, that's something I do. prices go up very quickly and on the spot market they're going down very quickly but i've also heard a lot about this rock and feather generally though what happens in oil markets today will start filtering down to pumps tomorrow and the next day but where you're right is it may take a couple of weeks for the entire change that we saw yesterday in oil markets to get passed down to the retail pump. That is what may take a week or two. And a lot of the reason for that is when prices actively were spiking back in March, stations generally have a very difficult time raising prices immediately. It usually takes them two to three days to start raising prices. They're behind the curve when prices go up.

And that is why they take their time then lowering prices. It's to make up for when they lost margins in March or April. But there's a lot of complexities here. But you're referring to spot in futures prices. So I'm glad you can, you know, you bring this question up because there's a lot of this misinformation. And yeah, I mean, if I didn't understand markets, I'd probably be in the same boat. Hey, that doesn't make sense. Well, so I'm going to dumb it down to my level, the fifth grade level. So you're saying that the spot price, when the war, when the conflict starts, there's a spot price. And they're not just raising your gas on the news of or the anticipation of more expensive gasoline. They're doing it to spot price. So my question is, if that's a two-way street, then I'm good with that. That means when the WTI closes at $76 a barrel, what's the spot price? Does it come down to? It absolutely is. Stations today are starting to get access to cheaper gasoline, and the street hasn't opened. But stations are paying less, and so, yes, that mechanism does work both ways. I just need a two-way street, that's it. Yeah, it 100% is. Now, stations may not, they may absorb some of that, just like your bank. They can make it EFT. It can be immediate, but they generally hold on to the funds a little longer. you know, to make a little interest off you. Stations right now are going to absorb a little bit extra margin. They'll pass along the savings, but they may delay it a couple days because when prices go up, they were behind the curve on being able to raise prices too. So it's kind of like instead of immediately going up and then immediately going down. The chart that Dickstates prices, it slowly quickly goes up and it slowly and smoothly goes back down. It's not a roller coaster up and down, up and down. Patrick, a number that I think all of us now pay attention to is the price of a barrel of oil, right? It's on the screen all the time. We're saying to ourselves, are we focusing too much on that? What does that tell us? And how should we analyze that as it goes up and down and inches up, inches down? How should we look at that and analyze that? Well, you know, it's different because I just mentioned futures. Brent and oil or WTI are futures. So what the markets are telling you is that in the future in July and August, markets are anticipating that oil is going to be easier to get. But you might want to compare that to the price of dated Brent, which is going to be delivered much earlier than the Brent futures contract that you look at. If you look at the difference between dated Brent, the price of that, and regular Brent. you're going to have a story. The market is trying to tell you. Dated Brent is going down, but it's still higher today than Brent because the market is telling you it's still a little bit leery that a deal might not happen. And so the value of oil today is still higher than it would be in a month and a half when that Brent contract would be delivered. So the market's a little leery, but it's betting right now based on the markets. What I can see is energy markets are betting. that oil and the Strait of Hormuz will reopen and become easier to get. And all of this, the real turning point was that instead of inflaming the situation and escalating back in April, you'll remember Trump had some early day Easter Sunday tweets about reopening the Strait, that tone has dramatically shifted. In fact, even a weekend ago, Trump was telling Israel, knock it off, stop attacking Hezbollah. That shift is why oil markets for the past few weeks...

have reacted differently because instead of escalations and oil going up, we've seen de-escalations and oil going down. Patrick DeHan from Gas Buddy talking about gas prices. More coming up on the Rod and Greg show. America's social casino. Welcome to Modo Casino where the excitement never ends, with thousands of the hottest free-to-play social casino games, fastest payouts, and the best promotions in the industry. No tricks or gimmicks. Owned and operated in the USA. Moto Casino is a free-to-play social casino, no purchase necessary 21 plus to play void were prohibited. Sign up today for a generous welcome bonus. Morning people wake up for peace and quiet. McDonald's breakfast people? We wake up for the sweet rush of getting that warm, delicious breakfast right before it ends. Hot cakes, sausage patty, hash browns, scrambled eggs, biscuit, real butter and syrup. You know how our big breakfast got its name, and you know where your whole family can share one for just $6. McDonald's. Limited time only, price and participation may vary cannot be combined with any other offer or a combo meal. A lot of people think it's a good idea. It's a real debatable issue, I think. But a lot of people favor this. Local schools and districts will have the option to modify the default policy, but basically kids won't have cell phones in schools anymore. That's the plan. I mean, they tried this. I think last year they were supposed to do it, but it had varying effects or it didn't work as well. But they're trying to get this, they think it's a distraction in class. And we're trying to make it a little more uniform and see if they can. make something happen here well as early utah certainly is not the first state to do this joining us on our newsmaker line to take a look at it is thomas d he's an economist professor of education at stanford university professor d thank you for joining us this afternoon welcome to the rod and gregg show thanks for having me i'm glad to be here it's early in this i mean we only had them not that many years several states are ahead of utah what are the results so far what are you seen because i know you've done some research on this Well, I think it's fair to say they're sobering, but there are some lessons there for us to heed as we go forward with these policies and try to figure out how to realize their hypothesized benefits. In particular, what we're seeing is, at least initially, these bans create some substantial disruptions. Schools that adopt phone bans, truly restrictive phone bans, not just cosmetic ones. often see quite sharp increases in disciplinary incidents. And we think this can be due to two mechanisms. One is teachers and schools simply have to enforce these fans. But second, students who have been sitting there scrolling their screens may be more apt to act out when they no longer have that option. And that can create disciplinary problems as well. Those disciplinary problems, are they short-lived? In other words, it's just kind of a shock to the system.

Or will they persist because they don't know a world without those devices outside of school? Yeah, that's where the news gets a little more encouraging because we find we can only follow schools as long as three years because schools have only been taking up these bands in great numbers quite recently. But we do see by the third year disciplinary incidents return to their baseline levels. So that's encouraging. But I also think as schools begin to use these bands more broadly, they can probably attenuate some of that short-term harm simply by knowing that it might occur. And I think making sure teachers are prepared for effective classroom management is important. And I also suspect the way in which schools communicate these bands to students and parents. might be able to attenuate those initial disruptions as well. In your research, did you talk to teachers at all and ask them their opinions on this? We do have some really large surveys of teachers, and they are, by and large, great fans of these policies, and they see positive effects from them as to parents, and that's why we're seeing them adopted. I mean, politicians are responding to the popularity of these bands among both parents and teachers. Now, the problem is we're not yet seeing a great many benefits among students. Our team does not see any evidence, for example, that these bands generated meaningful increases in test scores or student attendance. So I think we still have some work to do to understand how to best design and implement these policies and to understand why they may or might not have the hypothesized benefits. Maybe, would it have a three-year lag similar to the disciplinary issues? It takes time to really to take hold. Maybe like you saw in the third year where the, you know, the incidences went down. Maybe the scores, test scores would go up in three years? Yeah, and we're not seeing really clear evidence of that, but that's why we want to continue studying these policies. And I would encourage people to stay with these policies, both trying to understand them and to refine their implementation. I think too often we get a fattish reform. Some early results are discouraging. And rather trying to abide with these reforms and improve them, we move on to the next flavor of the day. I think that would be a mistake here. simply because the idea that recapturing kids' attention and schools should be beneficial, it has such common sense to it. And so we're sitting with questions now about why the early results aren't as encouraging as they should be. And there are a number of hypotheses. And maybe, for example, that phone bans don't go far enough. You know, it's one thing to take away kids' phones, but many of them are sitting there with laptops.

often provided by the schools. And those laptops themselves may be a source of distraction. So for example, we hear about kids using slide decks on school-approved laptops as a way to digitally pass notes among peers and communicate. So there's a lot to learn. And I hope we'll stay in that fight. you know, to create high-powered learning environments for our kids. Professor D, great information. We'll keep our eye on it. Thank you very much for joining us. It was such a pleasure. Thanks for having. All right. Thomas D., an economist, economics teacher, and professor of education at Stanford. All right, more coming up on the Rotting Greg Show and Utah's Talk Radio, 1059, K&RS. Man, I don't remember, but I probably should. If I campaigned in this entire state, then I must have been. Yeah, as I recall, my wife and I took a trip a trip a couple of years ago because we'd never been to the five national parks. So we took a trip down southern Utah, Wednesday, the national parks. State and Tory. And there's a very nice bed and breakfast there. And there's also a great restaurant in Tori. That's well known in that area. Yeah. Yeah. So if you ever go. I bring that out because Tori has been selected as the best town in America to Stargates. By who? Who is making this list? I don't know. It's according to... Your friend. This is your pal. Yeah, that's it. The research basically says Tori, near Capitol Reef National Park, as the number one town in America for stargazing. Well, it's a small town, but I can't argue with it, but I'm just surprised at that little town. Just, you know, doing whatever they could to bring down Elon Musk and the fact that he's now a trillionaire. And they attacked him. It was just, you know, attack, attack, attack. Who was it? Who's the candidate up there in Miami who's drawing all the attention? Plattenor, is that his name? You mean in Maine. No, in Maine, in Maine. I'm sorry, in Maine. He came out and said, well, he's the, he's a trillionaire, but we hope he's the last one. Yeah, it's, I mean, it's so sad because there's just, you need people to make money. Yes, you do. They create jobs. They create, it's just supply side economics. It's, it's a free market. It's what we're supposed to do. And when people lament it, complain about it, act, and now jealousy and envy are now virtues. Yeah, not deadly sins like they used to be. So. You know, that's the 2026. I guess you can all just complain when people succeed after taking a lot of risk and working. That man has slept on factory floors as of late. I'm not even talking like 20 years ago. He's sleeping on factory floors trying to get things done. He doesn't stop, Elon Musk. And so, yeah, go ahead and confiscate all of his wealth. That makes all the sense. So these are some of the stories that you mentioned yesterday. What are there, 4,400 millionaires created? Yes, 4,400 new millionaires.

who had stock options working for SpaceX that are now millionaires for doing it. So I'm driving in this morning. I'm listening to Clay Travis, and he was taking some calls from some of those instant millionaires, so to speak, right? That's exciting. He had a story of a guy. One of the guys called in, and I don't think he worked for SpaceX, but he invested in it, right? Young guy out of school, okay, years ago, started making a living by digging ditches, then started working with concrete, and all that time. He was saving as much money as he could and investing it in SpaceX. Okay. As of last Thursday, the IPO was Friday, right? Yeah, I think it was. The day before or whatever. As of that day, because of the investments that he had made, constantly taking his savings, putting him to SpaceX, his worth was about $900,000. That's good. That's what he has to make. That's a good number. As of, this will blow you away. He went from a value or someone with $900,000, okay, value to $14 million.

When people visit here and they're well off because they're coming for the World Cup, when they talk about what they're seeing and narrating their experience here in America, it helps remind a guy like me, boy, this is a really good country. And we'll talk about that when we come back because why can't Americans realize what we really have? Yeah, what would you have to lose to know how good you had it? I don't want to be in that camp. I want to know how good I have it without having to lose it. Neither do I. All right. We'll talk about that. More coming up on the Rod and Greg show. Why is it, Greg, that we as Americans can't seem to recognize or be appreciative as to what we have? Moto Casino is pure American energy. Born in the USA and with the same 1776 spirit that built this country. Moto, America's Social Casino, is celebrating that freedom with a 1 million sweeps coin prize giveaway. One lucky American is going to win 1 million sweeps coins. So what are you waiting for? Spin now on Moto Casino. Download the Moto Casino app today. Moto Casino is a social casino board where prohibited. No purchase necessary. Visit moto.como. I think it's human nature. I think it's human nature. I think we all adapt to things. And so we adapt to our environment. There's things that will still bother us. But if we were to compare it or contrast it to maybe how we used to live or how others live, we may put our challenges in a better or healthier perspective. But I think it's a human trait to maybe not take as careful inventory of the good life that we have. I try to. I don't want to. I don't want to learn one of those lessons of only appreciating it after I've lost it. You know, I want to try and take good, careful inventory. But I think we all as Americans are getting a great lesson, a powerful lesson in perspective as we're seeing these World Cup fans from all over the world to send on this country to watch those games and what their impressions are of the United States. It is. I didn't expect it. I didn't expect to hear the praise and to hear some of the things they observed that they think are. Like, mind-blowingly amazing about this country that I never saw a soda machine where you can fill up your own ice and put your own drink in as a high trust society that separates itself from the rest of Europe or anywhere else. I didn't know that that did that. I didn't know that was that big of a deal. Does it bother any more where you go to a restaurant and they give you your drink and you can't go refill? You get a large and you get a large. You know, it bothers us nowadays. These people who are visiting this country thinks that's the greatest thing in the world. They can't believe they're free refills. Or they go to a Mexican restaurant and they get a plate of chips.

With salsa. Yeah, no charge. No charge? Just for being here. And then they empty it and they get another one for free. I mean, the story after story, Greg, and we look at those things and take them for granted. But these people, they're just amazed. So the one that went over my head is when I went to Europe, I went to Switzerland or wherever. You know, they give you an ice cube at a time. Yeah. You know, and you're like, are you kidding me? I said I'd like ice. And you came with a glass of three ice cubes in it. Like, I'd like more ice. I thought that was a cultural thing that people in Europe just didn't like ice. And I'm like, who doesn't like ice? But apparently they don't like you here. No, they come here and they're like, you could just get as much ice as you want. This is, it's unlimited ice. You can go up to the machine and you can take a cup and fill it all with ice if that's all you want. Yeah. And that's, and so they're just being stingy with the ice around the world while we. We love ice. I did not know that was another tell that it's the greatest country in all the world. You can have as much ice as you want. But it is amazing. And unfortunately, I don't think most of the country are hearing stories like this. A lot of people are about how they are amazed at the bounty and everything that we have in this country. Yet we take it for granted. We complain when the when the store runs out of ice. I know. Oh, that's a, you know, that's a world crisis. Yes, it is a crisis. It is. It's serious. It's serious. I think that the comments about the friendliness and the, in the courtesy and the how people are just, really, people are friendly. I think America as a whole, we kind of focus on the blue cities on how poorly they're run and homelessness and the grifters out there. But let's just talk about the country as a whole. It is a friendly country. People do. I think are friendly. I just, and you forget that sometimes. And I think that the people that are coming to America to watch these games and their comments on social media, X, saying how they're blown away by the southern hospitality or wherever they're at. It's a great reminder. Yeah. Well, you served, what, two years, New Zealand? In Australia. And Papua New Guinea was part of that mission. What was your feeling like when you flew back into the country? After your service. Glee. I mean, what do you go through? So, and it's funny because Australia, Papua New Guinea was a third world country, and I served seven months there, and that was completely different. But Australia is about as close to West. I mean, it's like America, but they drive on a different side of the road. They got an accent. But there were things that were just fundamentally not up to the quality of life. And I didn't grow up wealthy. I'm talking, I was a poor kid grown up. But it was just not as nice. and their freedoms. You couldn't stick your hand. If your window is down and you had your arm kind of outside the car, you would hear a police officer on a loud on their car, on their car, yell at you to put your hand inside the car. What? Yes, I have the window down. We don't have the AC in the car. My hand is out. I'm just holding on to the outside of the car where we're driving, and it's in Brisbane. And I hear the police, the officer in his car, his loudspeaker, yell, put your arms inside the vehicle. I'm thinking, gee whiz, I mean, is this what you got to worry about? So I just found it to be, I was elated to be back. I love my mission. It was great. Australia is a great place. It's the actually worst now, I think, after COVID. But.

The freedoms we enjoy here, I was nothing but happy to be back in America. Well, I feel the same way. No, I didn't spend a long period of time, but just going on a vacation. I mean, and we've been to Europe on several occasions, you know, Italy, France, Switzerland, the Mideast, we've been to Israel before, and that special feeling you have when you fly and we flew into New York, and you do see the Statue of Liberty when you're flying in, I mean, it's kind of, it's good to be home. This is home. And I wonder how other people feel and what it is going to take for us to appreciate more of what America has to offer. 888-57080-10 on your cell phone, Dow Pound 250 and say, hey, Rod, or leave us a message on our talkback line. We'd love to hear your comments. You're feeling if you've been out of the country for a while and what that feeling is like when you come back home. We'd love to hear the commentary. Should we go to the phone? Let's go to a listener right now. Let's go to Ed and Lehigh. Ed, thank you for calling and welcome to the Rod and Greg show. I think one thing we take advantage of, we don't appreciate this country, is restaurant water. When I went to Italy, you had to buy your water. Yeah. And when, like, you had said, Greg, when I asked for ice, they, like, looked at me like I was weird. And then we drove from Italy to Austria, and that was, like, driving from St. George to, to, it was like driving from Salt Lake to St. George, and we were in Austria. Yeah. Crazy. Yeah. No, that's one thing that is good observation. That people who come to this country say, you have to drive six or seven hours just to get from one down to the other. We can go to two countries in six or seven hours. Yeah, that's right. The size of this country amazes them. And they enjoy the drive. Yeah, they do. They drive. It's a beautiful country. There's a lot to be seen. And I just, I have absolutely loved. And like our caller said, you go to another country, things that you didn't think twice about that you didn't think was a quality of life issue happens to be a big quality of life issue. All right. We want to hear more of your calls. You've been out of the country for a while. You come back. And what are your feelings? What do you think? Are you more appreciative of the United States? 888-5708010 on your cell phone, dial pound 250, or leave us a message as well on our talkback line. More coming up on the Rod and Greg show. We're hearing from people who are coming here for the various soccer cup matches, World Cup soccer, and we're talking about America and how great America is. Why, as Americans, don't we realize that? Yeah, I mean, that's my question. Yeah, depending on how you grew up, if I just look back to where, how I used, the circumstances around my youth, man, life is a lot, lot better now, but you just kind of forget it as you move along. You get used to things going on. What does our, what does our audience have to say? Well, let's find out. Let's go to Kimberly in Farmington tonight here on the Rod and Greg show. Kimberly, how are you? Thanks so much for joining us. Good, Rod and Greg. Thank you. I have lived in Mexico, Malaysia, the Netherlands, and Spain, and I keep coming back to Utah. Wow. It is such a great quality of life here. I mean, I could compare any one of those four places and traveled extensively through Southeast Asia, but I mean, living for two years, minimum, out of the country. In five years, my husband's Dutch. He immigrated here.

and loves it here, and he did it the legal way, the right way. Yes. And so, Kimberly, tell your husband, thank you. There's no better place than the United States America. Yes. Thank you. Kimberly, let me ask you real quick, what did, with all the travel that you've been doing, what did you miss most about this country other than your family? Oh, in each country, if I missed something different. But to tell you the honest truth, most recently I lived in the Netherlands for five years, it's an atheist country. For me, that was the hardest part. I'm a woman of faith. And I just couldn't, it was so hard to connect with people on a spiritual level, which is really important to me. And I couldn't make, everyone was busy with their worldly, lively things. And it's really a Mimi Society over there. And that's what I miss the most. I'm so glad to be back in Utah. All right. It's just, it's the place for me. I love it. All right. Thank you for sharing that. What a great call on observation. I'll take that. I'll tell you this. I take that for granted, the spiritual connections. Oh, yeah. You know, I, that's a part that she described it. I wouldn't have, I wouldn't have thought of it. And I should think of it because it's a real deal. Okay, let's go to Rob and Willard. Rob. Welcome to the Rod and Greg Show. What do you think about America versus the world? Well, I kind of have a unique perspective. I was born in Australia from Scottish immigrants. My mom and dad grew up in Scotland during World War II and made their way to Australia. But we moved to California when I was four. And I moved out to Utah when I was in my 20s. All I can say is the United States is the best country in the world. And I have a different perspective because I used to spend summers in Scotland. I used to go visit my relatives there. And everything, I love that, I love that country, but there's, like you were talking about, you can't get ice. It can't even get a cold drink. I know, I know. And forget about going out, out at night to 7-Eleven for a drink run or for some snacks. Everything's closed. You are so right. I'll tell you what. Thank you, Rob. I was going to, I'm glad you brought up that you went to your summers in Scotland because I was going to bring this up, too. Everything closes at six, and I just want to go around and go, do you understand everybody works till five or six? If you close as a comedian store or some store at six, we're missing you because we're still at work. Like everyone closes at the same time without any thought that some that are working may need something after. And I'll tell you, I think having stores open in the evening, did anyone know that's a big deal? That's a big deal. That's not, that's not.

par for the chorus around the world our recent trip to switzerland you're right everything shuts down early and it's it's and you're going huh do you yeah and i've never understood that because i thought if you're in the business of making business or making money you'd want your customer base to be available if they're all working during the day why are you open at the same time they're otherwise occupied then when they're off of work you're closing yeah it just seemed like they were missing yeah Each other. All right. More your calls and comments coming up on the Rod and Greg show in Utah's Talk Radio, 1059, can arrest. My fellow America, this July, we're celebrating America's birthday at Moda Casino by giving away $1,776,000 in prizes. And one lucky winner is going to take home $1 million SC. Happy 250th birthday, America. You're welcome. Download Moto Casino today. Download the Moto Casino app today. Moto Casinos, the social casino board where prohibited. No purchase necessary. Visit motto.us for more details.

I mean, the bathrooms are bigger. I mean, you kind of realize, well, we got some, we got some space around here. Kind of like that. Yeah, I do too. I, yeah, there's a lot, there's a lot that, you know, you can drink the water out of your faucet. Really? Yeah, bottled water, yeah. You know, not bottled water. You just take, no, I know that. No, in Europe, you have to get bottled water in Europe. You can't drink that water out of the, out of the faucet. The old systems, yeah. No, just, yeah. At your own risk. Yeah. But no, there are so many things that I do. Again, I just think even when they see our sporting events or they see what would, I mean, just the magnitude sometimes of the events that we have here in the United States, it just, that's also, I think, an eye-opener. Yeah. When you see other people from other countries that are, that marvel at what happens, you know, what goes on here, someone, they saw the big, well, I think you pointed out, the big stadium in Atlanta. You couldn't believe that. Well, they couldn't believe it. Couldn't believe their eyes. What on earth is this? Yes. It is amazing. I mean, I don't know what it would take, but I hope we have a lot of great listeners. And I think our listeners do appreciate what we have in this country. They're dedicated. They understand, dedicated to their communities, especially to their families, to this state. I mean, we're very fortunate in this state. We are. And I'll tell you, I grew up, I always thought that I would come to Utah to go to school, go to college, after my mission, and then I would go back home. I'd go back to Pittsburgh. I came to Utah, and I'm telling you, the quality of life in Utah versus the East was so much better. And you had a growing economy here in the early 90s, and I was staying. I met Queen Bee. She was from American Fork. I was from Utah at that moment. So it wasn't hard to decide to stay in Utah. It's an unbelievably beautiful state. It was growing in the economy's healthy. Upward mobility was possible. uh in terms of your life going to school having a career all those things uh were in front of me and so it made in the united states the state of utah particularly was uh an incredible state to land in and uh begin my life well i'm i'm saying we're both carpet beggars well yeah i'm not You might consider yourself a carpetbagger, but I'm just a pioneer. I just took a Suzuki samurai with a canvas top on as my, you know. Driven by oxen? Yeah, no oxen, no car, just a Suzuki samurai, but I'm the pioneer. I'm not a carpetbagger. I'm a pioneer. Myself, I guess I could be considered a pioneer. I remember years ago I read a book by Colin Jerome Powell. This was years ago, okay? And he was stationed, I think he was stationed at Fort Susan Collins or something with his wife. And his wife wanted to go back east. She didn't like the West. And he asked her, why don't you like the West? And I'll never forget her her response. Too much sky.

And you know what? For me, I love this guy. I love the wide open spaces that we have out west. You and I are both from back east. You can't see a block down the road without a tree. No, it's you still have the hills and you have it's part of that Appalachia for me, at least in southwest Pennsylvania where your line of sight is very limited. And because Lake Erie is not too far away, the weather systems that come into that area. And it's got to be the case in Upper State, New York. It's, those are gray winters. I didn't know that you wore, you could wear sunglasses in the wintertime until I moved to Utah as an adult. 21 years old is the first time I knew that in the winter, you would wear sunglasses. Yeah. It was, because it was just gray. There was no sun shining in the wintertime. It was gray. All the leaves have fallen off the trees, so they're black, you know, just without leaves. It's very, very different. And it's, it's a, Utah particularly has an incredible. quality of life. When I take a road trip, let's say we're just going to Vegas or we're going to Southern California or up north, whatever, I marvel as I drive. How did the pioneers do this? How did the people who settled this country make it? I mean, we're driving an air-conditioned vehicle for crying out of life with music. Yeah, and my back starts to hurt. I'm looking for the lumbar button on my car. How did they do this? Pulling a wagon, sitting in a wagon, riding a horse, or walking? How on earth did they do this? It is. Yeah, it's... And that's where I think you appreciate this country. I'm glad they did. And look at these mountains. I mean, I remember watching the University of Pittsburgh play BYU back in 83 or something like that. And I remember it was in Provo. And I saw the, I saw then Cougar Stadium. And then I saw the mountain right behind it. And I said, that's earth. That's like, that's ground. That is ground with trees that far up in the sky above... That stadium, I couldn't, and I was just watching on TV, I couldn't believe my eyes. Yeah, it's crazy. It's pretty amazing. All right, when we come back, we'll talk about mental illness in the left, and Utah Senator Mike Lee will be joining us as well. Stay with us.

You point it to me. What do you want me to do, boss? I'm the wingman. I do what I'm told. Okay, okay. I made a mistake. Jeez. Baby. All right, welcome back. Hour number three of the Rada, Ketjo. Mike Lee will be joining us at the bottom of the hour. You know, over the years, Greg, research has shown that conservatives tend to live a healthier lifestyle and appear to be happier. Wait, now you're laughing at that. I am. No, the premise is true, but it's just funny on its face. It's just, isn't that just funny that that seems to be the case? But it makes sense to me. Now, Democrats have always reported lower levels of happiness. Yes. And maybe health issues. But no one just really found out why. And I think it's deeper than that it's a party of weak men and angry women, okay? It could be. I think that kind of defines the party, weak men, angry women, but there's got to be something more to it than that. What Trump called him the other day, Democrats? Yeah, Democrats. All right, well, let's dig into this. Joining us on our any hour newsmaker line is our good friend Matt Margolis. He's a columnist at PJ Media. Matt, how are you? Welcome to the show tonight. We're a little goofy, Matt, so you have to understand that. Yeah, sorry there, Matt. Well, I'm feeling pretty happy today because guess what? I'm a conservative. There you go. You know, Matt, it seems to be a trend, okay? I think you're, I think that's good. That's on brand. Matt, you've taken a look to some new studies on this issue, this issue. What are you finding out, Matt? Well, I think the big thing I'm finding out is, yeah, Democrats are just nuts. I mean, like, certifiably, not, I'm not even just certifiably nuts, but, like, they seem to, like, take pride in it. It's become part of their identity. And it's actually kind of scary because, like, I mean, I've met a lot of liberals in my time, and, you know, a lot of them are Medicaid, and they kind of brag about it. And this kind of proves it, like, They see that their mental anguish and these mental health issues as a source of pride, and it's become a part of who they are. Is that because being a victim is your social status? It's not a meritocracy. It's not on earned success. It's on victimhood. If you are a victim, then you have greater standing in society. So is their depression, their angst, whatever they may call it, their disability, does that give them standing in society in their worldview? Of course it does because, you know, they say they're triggered by something. They expect everyone else in the world to kind of cater to their needs. You can't say this anymore because it offends them. You can't do this anymore because it offends them. And we're tiptoeing around them. Like they're these delicate little Faberjeet eggs that we can't crack if we get too close to it. You know, this is the world we've been conditioned to live by because, you know, they're the ones that are saying that we have to. abide, but what they need to make them feel better. And it's like, I'm sorry, but that's just not the world I live in. I am not going to be catering to their needs. If you've got a problem with something, deal with it, you know, it's like what we all do. Matt, do you take a look at some of the research done by a professor up at Utah State University. Your name is Lauren Van de Hay, and trying to connect this, what did she find out? Well, you know,

this one of the most bizarre things I think she found out was that like half of the half of the respondents that said they had a mental illness like said that that identity was personally important to them which is just mind-boggling to me because it's like you know the word illness is like in the kind of the title there so it's like isn't it something that you would actually not be proud of something that you would want to fix and move beyond instead of seeing it's something that you that you have to uh that you that you're supposed to live with and it is part of who you are i mean it's something you should be wanting to overcome nothing that you that you're supposed to live with and then everyone else is supposed to be uh dancing around like sorry you know you know matt you brought up an interesting point that we don't want to we don't want to comply we don't want to give them what they want but do they even know what they want i take let's take a abortion for instance you know that that to me growing up seemed to be rovey weight seemed to be decided i didn't see it being overturned But they couldn't stop at whatever it was that Roe v. Wade allowed. They needed to go to infanticide. They needed to go to that, what, post-birth abortion or whatever they were called, partial birth abortion. It doesn't seem like the left ever has a landing spot. It's they want more and more and more. And my question is, when they, giving them what they want, is there, is there something, could they ever get anything they want? Or does it just get more extreme, the more they're able to pull society to the left? They're always going to want more. I mean, with abortion, it's not just about it being legal. And remember, back in the 90s, the big thing from the Clinton administration was safe, legal, and rare. And, you know, if they had stuck with that, they'd probably be really winning big numbers on the abortion issue. And they really aren't. Instead, they've gone all in. They've gone in with this, you know, unrestricted at any time, you know, of pre-abortions on the, you know, taxpayer-funded abortions, abortions for minors, all this stuff that keep pushing and pushing and pushing. And it's like that with everything. I mean, I mean, just look, when we get back to the mental health issue, where when we look at the whole, the whole gender thing, this, this, all this gender ideology and transgender identification. And if someone says that, if someone is a male and they say they're a female, we are supposed to affirm that. You know, this is what they are asking. We are supposed to affirm their mental illness. And so they are always going to be pushing for us to conform to them. Matt, what about the role and how this may play with generations that are coming up like Gen Z? What impact or how is this going to play into them? Here's golf legend John Daly. Hell yeah, these wins are piling up faster than my divorces. I only spent on Moto, America's Social Casino. You know I've won a couple of majors. And on Moto, I've won majors, grands, and epic jackpots on their classic Vegas slots with huge, huge bonus rounds. Moto Casino adds new games and awards players, free coins every single day. Grip it and spend it on Moto Casino. Download the Moto Casino app today.

Well, you know, I think it's, we see this happen all the time where the younger generations get more and more liberal because they're the ones that are being, you know, more freshly indoctrinated. And so we're just going to see this getting worse and worse because these younger generations are being taught this stuff. and they are recycling it and it's just going to and it's just snowballing from there you know i mean the 90s feel like forever ago what were things of those what's probably the last time things were relatively normal all around and now it's just gone haywire so what i think is happening is i think that the normal people in the united states i mean they probably didn't think they were republican at the time but they look at the democrats and they just see this this mind virus they see people that aren't healthy and they're extreme and it's just offending just common sense Do they fail in the midterms? I mean, I know the generic ballot looks good, but if you attach a name to it, it's usually one of these people that are just either a weak man or an angry woman. Are they going to get anywhere here, or are they just in a hole and they keep digging? The midterms are going to be an interesting thing because I don't think Democrats are in a strong position as they think they are. Yeah. And I think a lot of it's because they're so crazy. I mean, I'm like, you know, if you're, if your choices between a normal looking person and some... blue-haired nutcase, you know, you're probably going to go for the normal looking guy. Just, I mean, that's what, you know, we don't, we don't want to be condoning the crazy, the people that are so, that are using their mental illness as, as this badge of honor that they have, you know, so they, they dress the part, they wear crazy clothes, they dye their hair and all because they shave their, you know, all these things, uh, that, that are just projecting all this mental anguish that they have, that, that we are now supposed to realize. is the thing that we have to abide by that, that we have to make sure that we don't offend them. Matt, great story. And we're both very glad that you're conservative, happy, and healthy. Yes. So we appreciate you joining the show. Fight the power. All right. All right, Matt Margolis. He's a columnist with PJ Media. All right, more coming. I mean, think about this, great. You did see the video of the counter-UFC fight the other night with the Democrats, a bunch of old hippies. And they are. They're miserable human beings. Did you see the group on stage dancing and singing? And you're going, we want those people to lead this country? Yeah, we don't. Really? It is. It's just on its face. It just speaks for itself. Yeah. It is. It's pretty, I don't know if you saw it, folks, but it's disturbing to watch. I can only watch clips. I can't watch it for long. Yeah. But it's just, the contrast is severe, and it's, I don't think it's anything. Any person would want to be associated. Well, if we have to see De Niro, Jane Fonda.

Julia John Roberts, which, you know, and then Bet Midler. And look, they hate this country so much. And to our point, this whole show, we've been saying, then go find that utopia you think is so great. And if this is such a terrible place to live. You pointed, these four people who we mentioned are very successful. They have to be well traveled. They could live anywhere in the world. Why do they pick the United States? So why stay here and be so profoundly miserable? Go find that place you think is so much better. You know, I mean, you could, if De Niro started GoFund me and said, hey, I'll leave the country if you, he would, he has a lot of money. There's a lot of people that would pay. I would personally pay to see him leave. If he says, if I raise money, I'm out, I would put money. I would pay to see him leave. I really would. More coming up, Rod and Greg, with you. You're on Talk Radio 105.9, K&RS. We. are in fact humans. Yes, yes. By the way, I like AI music. I don't know that, I just threw that out there, but I, my kids think I'm crazy because I like AI music, but I, artificial intelligence can take a, yeah, so artificial intelligence can take a great song, maybe a song I've liked that's rock and turn it into like an old bluesy song or like a sick user 70s blues song or something like that. Really? I love it. I totally love it. I don't know any of the artists personally. So whether it's AI or it's an actual artist, I like the sound. Isn't that cheating, though? That's what people think, but I just don't get hung up. I don't think it's cheating. I don't know the artist. What do I care who's making it? I wouldn't know how they're making. Millie Vanilly. You know, I like their music. They never sang any of it. I still like it. You liked Millie Vanilly? Yeah. You're going to admit that? Absolutely. I thought they were great music. The difference is, Greg, someone actually sing those songs. Yeah, but it doesn't sound any different to me. When AI does it versus someone sings it, I cannot hear the difference. So what do I care? I don't know. Yeah. So I like it. Find it off. Anyway, that was, when you talk about humans, I just had to say, I'm with the machines on the music. I like it. All right. Let's talk for a minute about this plot to attack the big UFC event at the White House. This is big news. This came out this morning. This story, what are there? Five and the 23-5-in-person network apparently applauded this. Let me give you a quick background. The alleged plan involved using explosive-laden drones to hit buildings near the White House. force a mass evacuation and steer crowds toward a pre-staged sniper team. Yeah, their plan was to have people stationed as snipers that as people evacuated the areas that had blown up, they would be waiting. And they would be – Pick them off. Yeah. And I hear that they were looking for members of Congress, billionaires, anybody that had been friendly with APEC or with Israel, they were – those were the targets that they were going to be looking at as people were coming through. They had a second diversion after that. There's two places that they were looking. Multiple suspects have been arrested, and they think there's more that are out there.

The fortunate part for all of us for that event on Sunday night, which was amazing to be the target, the mother of one of the people arrested, this Tyson Proper from Ohio, his mother came across information or she became uncomfortable with whatever he was doing to the point where she was privy to something. She's the one that notified the police and the FBI. And she probably saved so many people in doing that. I don't know that the FBI would have been aware. if she had not blown the whistle on her son her own son so anyway what a you talk about you know that's a that's a very fortunate or or uh divine moment that someone intervened and we got that stop before that could ever happen she just thought her son's activities were a little strange and he was hanging around people that were talking to him so on social media and she just thought that was a little strange and that's when she notified authorities that uh you may want to check this out i mean the details of this great can you imagine that how many people were there Oh, they had 85 to 100,000 and outside the White House area. And then another 400 on the ground. 4,500 inside the White House. Inside the White House. Yes. So, look, it would have been, like, I don't know, they had to prepare for something so that if someone were to try and bring drones in that area, maybe they get intercepted ahead of time. I don't know what, but. When you hear the plans that they were pretty sophisticated, and they're still looking for other people that they believe are still involved. They found signal chats, these, you know, the, it's the social media, or it's the texting. Yeah, texting. Where it's supposed to erase, it's encrypted, it's supposed to erase what you're doing or what you're writing. I think Snapchat does that, doesn't it? That's one of them, I think. Yeah, the signals, I think, the one they were using here. But all I know is that for a mother to observe her son's behavior to be... worrisome to the point where she would notify the police uh we're very fortunate can you can you even imagine greg what the intelligence community in this country has to do every second of every day they cannot let their guard down because if they do i mean the the the people out there who want to who want to get at trump I tell you what, I mean, they cannot let their guard down. Count how many attempted assassinations we have. Now count the correspondence dinner, okay, that somebody was trying to rush in there and do this. Now you have this event right here. I think the days of the Secret Service in their... traditional role has been eclipsed by the times we live in and i blame the left for this this is not a two i'm with you i'm so tired of this it's both sides both sides have to cut down on the rhetoric i'm sorry it is not both sides not both sides are saying have such a violence to what they're doing look at look at what they're doing what they're trying to protest or what they're trying to do when they are looking to be violent they are looking to stop people interrupt

traffic, do all kinds of aggressive things. This is not a both sides problem. This is the left. The left is fomenting so much hate that it creates chaos, it creates violence. And all of that is by design. None of that's accidental. It is to compel behavior at the end of the day. And I just think that to protect the president, to protect the cabinet, to protect those that would be the subject of this kind of hatred and violence. I think you need something bigger and better than the Secret Service up till now. I think you got to put a bunch of special forces people around this president. Because. Never know. Yeah. All right, more coming up. Our conversation with Utah Senator Mike Lee on its way on Utah's talk radio, 1059, KNRS. I have my American flag. Yeah, you're so, you told me yesterday. Yeah, and I'm consistent. What I said is true. That because you got caught up in the spirit over the region. Oh, I'm so into the 20-50s. That you would be wearing red, white, and blue every day until July 4th. You got a little appell pin on. That doesn't. Well, I had meetings today, so I had to wear a suit. But I, but remembering. that I had made this commitment to myself, but I shared it with our listeners and you. I made sure I had an old glory on my lapel pin today. And you do. So that I am celebrating America. I will have the colors, the stars and stripes on me and celebrating America from now till 4th of July. Okay. And we'll see that tomorrow. You'll see it tomorrow as well. Okay. In fact, I might bring a change of clothes, so I don't know. If I have meetings, I have to be in my suit. Those lawmakers don't care. Man, my golf, I can't show up. I can't be talking to people in a T-shirt that says Golf America. You got to dress a little better. They got a dress code. Really? Yeah, a little bit. Did they have one new and you were there? Yeah, man. I didn't know, I never took my jacket. I heard the story about how Ronald Reagan never took his jacket off. Yeah, never took his jacket off. I never took my jacket off in the speaker's office. Oh, well, that's good for you. I left it on. I just thought that'd be best. I wonder if Mike Lee takes his jacket off. In the office. You may not. You can't on the Senate floor. You can take your jacket. Well, they let Fedron run around with a hoodie. Yeah, that's true. I mean, that's true. There's no dress code there. Well, we had a chance to talk with Senator Lee a short time ago, and a lot of issues we talked about. But the first one we asked him, or I asked him was, does the Senate or Congress members of the House need to weigh in on this agreement that apparently is going to be signed by the president or JD Vance on Friday in Switzerland to get his thoughts. The memorandum of understanding won't be signed until later this week. and the actual text is not yet been released. So it's hard and it's basically impossible to assess that between now and when we see text.

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a majority of Republicans, if 50, more than 50 votes could do something? What is the role if there was a role for the Senate to play with Trump's negotiations with Iran? Well, look, again, with regard to the Iran deal specifically, whether or not there's anything that the Senate would need to ratify as a treaty is going to depend on what the deal amounts to in the end. We haven't even seen the text of the memorandum of understanding. As it's been explained to me, it sounds like this MOU is itself purporting to provide a framework for ongoing debates that could themselves result in a binding agreement between the two nations. But that the framework itself. is likely not something that would need to be ratified as a treaty. But so it remains to be seen, not only what the MOU looks like, but also what, if any document's going to result in the type of agreement that would need to be submitted to the Senate for ratification and then ratified by the Senate. You're raising an important point, though, Greg, which is that just as with muscle, the muscle, so to speak, of the United States Senate atrophies with non-use. When we allow the muscle of the Senate to go unused, we become weaker. We become unable to deal with the day-to-day needs of the American people. They take the Save America Act, for example. What we ought to be doing and what I believe we could and should and must still do. He's put it on the floor, just like they did with the Civil Rights Act of 64, and say this is, you know, like that bill, they're different. Of course, they accomplish different purposes. But they're both important. They're both a lot more popular with the American public than they are in the halls of the Senate, particularly with one party. They put that bill on the Senate floor, even though they were about 30 votes shy of cloture back then. We're only 10 votes shy of cloture now. And they said, we're going to keep debating this for as many weeks as it takes in order to pass it. And after a few weeks, they passed it. We should do the exact same thing with the Save America Act. It's one of many ways that we avoid having the muscle of the Senate atrophy by non-use. Senator, speaking of the Save America Act, I want to get your reaction to this comment that Hillary Clinton made over the weekend talking about voting and the Save America Act. First of all, here's what she said. You carry through. what they're doing to try to undermine voting. They're trying to kick people off voting roles. They're trying to demand, you know, forms of identification that most real people don't have and most older people and most rural people don't have.

They're certainly redistricting to make it difficult to elect black representatives or Latino representatives or Democrats. So that means we have to be even more intentional in showing up and voting. Sunderly, apparently we do not have real forms of ID in this country. What's your reaction to this? This is paranoid fantasy. This is insane. This is absurd. I disagree with every word she uttered, including but and the. First of all, she engages in this pathological game of otherizing everyone. If Clarence Thomas were with it, he might tell us the soft bigotry of low expectations. First it was women, then it was some racial minority groups. Now it's rural Americans where they're saying, oh, they can't do it. Look, we all know you've got to have a photo ID to do all sorts of things, whether it's pick up a prescription, withdraw money from the bank, board an airplane, just about anything. It picked up theater tickets. In fact, even to attend as a participant to the Democratic National Convention. You've got to show up with photo ID and credentials, proving that you are who you say you are and that you're entitled to be there and vote. That's all we're asking for here. This rank hypocrisy from Democrats like Hillary Clinton expose their real vulnerability here, which is that they don't care if widespread voting vulnerabilities take place if they persist. In fact, some of them, I'm starting to think they must view this as a feature. rather than above than above to have these vulnerabilities to election security in America. Fortunately, the American people aren't... falling for it. The American people are smart. They understand that we need it to make it easy to vote and hard to cheat. The Save America Act does both. Hillary Clinton should be ashamed for those comments. They're offensive. And she's now added rural Americans to the list of other Americans. She's constantly otherizing through her low expectations. She should withdraw that statement and apologize. She should. Mike Lee joining us on our any hour newsmaker line. All right. Final segment of the Rod and Greg show coming up on Talk Radio 1059, KNRS. Comedian Rob Schneider, good for him. It's stepping up, Greg. He is vowing to pay any of the potential fines levied against Major League baseball players by the league for writing Bible verses on their hat during the Giants Pride Night. Good for him. I actually, you know that Senator Josh Hawley has written a letter to the Major League Baseball? Yes, he has. Please explain why you would be willing to find these players for doing this. It seems, I mean, it seems like it's against their religious liberties to do it. Anyway, I do. I love that Rob Snyder said, I'll pay your fines if you get them. You guys speak up if you want. And those pitchers don't really need someone's help, but I just think there's symbolism in it. I'm glad that the, you know, even JD Vance, he wrote and replied, Trump was elected.

We don't need to do this anymore. No, we don't. I mean, that's really the crux of it. So I'm glad that people are standing up. This is one of those moments this weekend where I feel like the cultural, the culture war is shifting our way. I think that you have these athletes that young people admire that they've always been part of the Americana and America's, I don't know, culture, our sports figures. And I think they're starting to step up and be heard. They're done being used by the left. And if they believe what the left does, like LeBron James, then go for it. But if you have another opinion, you should have as much of a stage as the leftist. They have every right to. Yeah. They have every right to. Oh, one other note, a bit of a shake-up in restaurant news. Oh, really? Ready for this? Jersey Mike says overtaken Chick-fil-A as the highest-rated quick-service restaurant for customer satisfaction. knocking Chick-fil-A off a pedestal, which they've had an 11-year run of being on top. But Jersey mics have stepped in, and they're now number one. I mean, I don't dislike Jersey mics, but I just thought that Chick-fil-A, they have, it's not just that the food's good. Boy, they have their act together. Have you seen their drive-thrus where they have a door? Yeah. They just walk out and out of your car. They don't. lean over the window, hand you your stuff. They just do it super efficient. They got people outside. Chick-fil-A and In-Out Burger have figured out fast food service. They really have. It's fast. It is. They've really made it efficient. And I thought that that's one of the reasons you saw them is such a... Yeah, Jersey Mike's taking over. Yeah. 11-year run by the part of Chick-fil-A. Good for them. All right. That does it for us tonight. Yes. Okay. We'll be back tomorrow. Wingman Wednesday tomorrow. Oh, it is. Wingman Wednesday tomorrow. All right. Head up, shoulders back. May God bless you and your family in this great country of ours. Thanks for listening. We're back tomorrow at 4.

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