The Rod and Greg Show: Rise of Socialism; Quiet Competence of Trump Administration

Not around my house, just as I was driving, I could see it in the distance. It wasn't around your house? No. Is your house hermetically sealed or something? I just didn't notice it. It looked like a perfectly nice summer day to me, summer morning. I could see the blue sky through my window. You could? Yes. I couldn't. It was smoky. It was smoky to the west. I looked out west. I saw a lot of smoke. A lot of fires. All right. Well, big day today. It is primary election day here in the state of Utah today. An update from the lieutenant governor's office says Utah County, you're a little slow in voter turnout so far. Down there in Beaver County, they're high, but you can't trust percentages. And it's hard to say, too, on a non-presidential election, a primary election, which I think has more interest this year than I've seen in a long time here in Utah. And I don't know where it got into our minds that everybody has to vote from a lazy boy chair or a couch or else this isn't a democratically elected republic. But my message is if you don't want to vote and you don't want to go to the trouble, then don't. Okay, that might not be the most, you know, inspiring message, but why do you want to compel people that wouldn't otherwise who don't care or don't want to vote? That's true. Why is it so important that we get every single person to vote if they don't want to on their own? It shouldn't there be some level of effort to cast your ballot, to make those decisions, to be part of that democratically elected republic? I just don't see this whole convenience thing as like the North Star. in our elections process. If people don't want to vote, you can make it as easy as can, but if they still don't want to vote, don't have any interest in a race, don't know any of the candidates, don't know any of the issues, why vote? Well, and what we've done is we've taken our elections process, whether it's transparency, chain of custody, and we've compromised both for ease and comfort. Why? I don't know why. If you don't know that someone is motivated to look at the issues, look at the candidates, make a vote of conscience, if they don't want to do that starting out. I don't know why that vote is so gold. I mean, voter turnout, voter turnout. Oh, it always is voter turnout. Voter turnout. Voter turnout. Voter turnout. I don't care about voter turnout. I care about informed voter turnout. I want people that actually care and are watching things and watching what's going on around us. I want them to vote and those votes to matter the most. Not the big dummies. And because they care. Yes. The informed voter, you want, you know, that's always been the criticism of the caucus convention system. Well, all you're getting are really. Dedicated people. Isn't that what we want? Yeah. You want people that are watching what's going on, paying attention a little bit. So we're going to talk a little bit more about the election today here in a few minutes. But here's what's on the menu today on the Rod and Greg show. And we're all talking about how the Trump administration is quietly, very quietly eliminating the deep state. They're doing it very, very quietly. Not a lot of headlines, but they're starting to... to dismantle things that will shock people. Well, they're trying to get rid of the swamp and they're reflecting pond in a pool, and those leftists won't let them do it. They keep vandalizing it and making it green. To see what they did today? They're starting. I told you this yesterday. They're going to have put a fence around. And they're doing it. How sad is that? They got to put it around there because, and by the way, that's a 10-year penalty if convicted of attempting or defacing a national monument. They just, they...

They don't care. They just, they hate Trump so much. They'll deface, you know, our national monuments to D.C. It's just pathetic. Yeah, yeah. A little bit later on, Utah Senator Mike Lee will join us. We'll find out if the president is going to meet with the Senate tomorrow. One of the items on discussion will be will be the Save America Act. Senator Lee will let us know on that. A little bit later on, we'll talk about the growth of socialism in America. In New York today, there are three or four. Democratic Socialist candidates on the ballot, Greg, backed by Zohran Mamdani, you know, and we'll see if they upset the Democratic establishment. They very well could. Well, it's like you went to school to be a structural engineer and your buildings are falling down around you after you graduate from school. And somehow you kept getting hired to be a structural engineer. How these people go to school are told that socialism or communism works. It just hasn't been applied right. So they try it. Zohran Mamdani tries it. They all try. It all fails. And yet here we are. These clowns still get elected in these big cities. I don't get it. Yeah, we'll get into that. So we've got a lot to get to today. As always, we love to have you to be a part of the show. 888-570801010. On your cell phone, all you do is have to dial pound 250 and say, hey, Rod, or leave us a message on our talkback line as well. All right, the election today. Thoughts. It's going to be interesting. Yeah, so look, I like to give these challengers to these incumbent members of Congress, Blake Moore being challenged by former state representative, Carrie Ann Lisenby. Actually, she's still a state representative. She's just not seeking re-election. She's running, she's the majority whip. She's running against. or she was. She's running against Congressman Blake Moore. I like that race. I think I give her a puncher's chance. I think she's run a very hard race. She's got a good grassroots organization out there. I'm with you. I'm with you on that one. I think that Blake Moore has had issues that she's brought to light. I know that Blakemore camp doesn't like it. They think it's negative. But they've returned volley. I think quite, you know, great, quite. resoundly, they've come back and they've had some criticisms for her. So that's a good, that race is a tough race, and I give her a puncher's chance there. I think that Phil Lyman is going after, he's a former gubernatorial candidate. He was a state lawmaker and then also a San Juan County Commissioner. He's running against incumbents, Celeste Malloy. That race also, I mean, he's got those rural ties. He's got, and she's made some votes too in terms of spending money and spending us off a cliff. So you've got, you know, you've got two kind of establishment members of Republican Party and Republican members of Congress, two challengers going after those very votes and those actions. And they are things I think that voters are paying attention to. So those races can be interesting. I'm not going to say they're the favorite or they're going to win, but I give them both a chance. And then you have the races, the legislative races. Before you go to there, how about the new congressional district for the Democrats?

Yeah, it's so hard to watch. What a joke that is. I just want, of the most offensive congressional district ever drawn, I want the most offensive candidate to win it. Because I don't want, I want us to be as offended as we should be about that district. That district was created by a activist judge with no public process, no public hearing, no one elected being part of it. It is an offense. And so let Bernie Sanders, who posted today. To vote for Nate Bluin. Let that happen. Let that happen. Ibad Mohammed, whatever his name, that Somali, it's getting all the daycare money out of Minnesota. Go, you go. Both you two just run, run, run. I just want to see one of these guys win because I think you should have the most offensive member of Congress from the most offensive district ever drawn in our state. And then that just makes the case stronger because I want to see it all changed. That's going to be an interesting one. And then we've got some legislative races. Of course, the race involving Senate President Stuart Adams. I think in a fight for his life. He is. And part of it's been a tough, tough race. Well, you know, they get to style of state money doing these AI ads, make him picking pockets. You know, these images of him picking a pocket or him. It's just they're outlandish. And they're so over the top. They're so negative. It begs the question, does negative campaigning work? Is it so off-putting that people say, you know what, if there isn't something better than this, I'm not going to play into that. I want to know because I think Stuart Adams said he's been a colleague of mine. We both came into the house way back when, back in 02. I think he's, I don't think he deserves any of this out-of-state, dark money attack he's been going through. It's too bad. But that's going to be a tough race. Boy, I'll tell you. Because I live in that district. I've seen all the mail. All the direct mail pieces come. Yeah. I've seen the, I've seen the, I've seen the, uh, I've seen the, uh, the ads on social media. They're brutal. Yes. I mean, this time, this is really brutal. That's going to be one to watch. I think the Trevor Lee race tonight will be one to one. David's County Commissioner and Bob Stevenson is challenging him. He used to be mayor of what? Mayor of Layton. Okay. Mayor of Layton. And then became a county commissioner. He's challenging Trevor Lee tonight. By the way, Trevor's mom is also running. Did you know that? I didn't know. Yeah, she's running for Davis County Commission. Well, I know her. She's a great lady. Yeah, she's a really nice lady. Her son, Trevor, he's a great representative, and she's always been great with the grassroots and everything else. She's a good conservative. It's going to be interesting to us. So, by the way, Abby will be here tonight. She'll have updates at the top and bottom of the hour starting at 8 o'clock. So for up to the minute coverage, make sure you check in with Abby tonight here on Talk Radio 105.9, KNRS. He has done a lot of very good things. I mean, we're seeing reports now coming from the border. I mean, I think we now, Finally, is it fair to say, Greg, that we have a handle on immigration in this country again? Yes, I think about time. I think our good president soon after being elected started applying the laws of the land. We didn't need new ones like the Biden administration claimed, but it looked like if you did, you know.

defend the law, you know, apply the law, we could stop the illegal immigration. It worked wonders. Well, during the campaign both in 2015 and again in 2024, Donald Trump told the American people he would clean up Washington, talking about the swamp. Well, apparently he has done so, but done so very, very quietly. And joining us on our any hour newsmaker line to talk more about that is Inez Stepman with the senior policy analyst with the Independent Women's Forum. are you welcome to the rod and gregg show thanks so much for joining us i'm great and i'm glad to be here thanks you say are you right the the administration is quietly dismantling decades of dei policies exactly what is taking place i know yeah i mean it's just It's a broad-based effort across a bunch of different agencies, but it boils down to one simple thing, which is that restoring equality under the law and restoring a true colorblind meritocracy to all kinds of aspects of American life, whether that's in the workplace by punishing, for example, anti-white discrimination that has been going on in corporate America now for at least 20 or 30 years. or whether it's talking about university admissions and the Department of Education lawsuits in that direction. And then also there was a recent opinion out of the Office of Legal Counsel essentially declaring a legal structure called disparate impact unconstitutional across all federal agencies and hopefully taking up the Supreme Court to ratify that in fact this is unconstitutional. I mean, get into some of the, like, more details here, but basically across the board, the Trump administration has taken seriously the idea that in all institutions in American life, people ought to be judged not by the color of their skin, right? Not by how they fill out a diversity photo for, you know, for a brochure. But in fact, on their objective merit. And that is, that's been a huge. challenge to what has really been a leftist orthodoxy for the last 50 years. The content of one's character, imagine that's actually debatable or argued against by the left. Let me ask you this. There was some window dressing. When DEI started to get scrutinized and you saw state legislatures that were looking for their state institutions of higher learning to not have these DEI departments, you started to see them just basically stay right where they were but call themselves something else. How much is substantive change and how much is window dressing to try and maybe buy some time, slow bake this presidency and his administration, hoping for better days in the future? Are we seeing substantive change? Or are some of this just, you know, hiding from us? It's a really good question, and I think it depends on the institution in question, right? So universities are hard left ideologues, right? They're run by hard left ideologues. I don't think they're giving up discrimination in the name of, quote, unquote, diversity and DEI very easily, despite the fact that they, you know, the administration has done a bunch of settlements and consent decrees. Columbia is under a consent decree where they have to report all of their information.

back to the federal government about their admissions and hiring. So breakdowns of by race, by sex, by SAT score, et cetera, et cetera, that make it easy to see if they're trying to circumvent the legal requirements to not discriminate on the basis of race. But do I think that universities are going to try every trick in the book to try to get back to what they were doing before? Absolutely, yes. I think that's going to be probably five. 10-year battle, whether or not we succeed probably depends on whether or not there's another Republican administration after this that takes it as seriously as the Trump administration has taken it. When it comes to corporations and private companies, when it comes to corporate America, I'm much more optimistic that even this enforcement from the Trump administration will be enough to create a deterrent. Now all of those companies have to say to themselves, well, yeah, okay. the left might be back in power for this term or for four or eight years, but at least if, and there's ever another Republican administration elected, there's a potentially huge lawsuit liability here. And companies are a little more afraid of those things than like the ideologues than a university, right? There's a CYA aspect here. And so I'm more optimistic. And the really big knockout blow for this would actually be for the Supreme Court to follow up on students for admissions case as well as a whole series in different contexts of cases for the last two, three, four years. where the court has essentially reinforced the idea of the colorblind constitution. Because if the court decides that all of this kind of bean counting, ethnic bean counting, racially motivated decision-making, whether that's in hiring and firing, whether that's in admissions or other aspects of American life, if the court once and for all says, actually, this is unconstitutional. We have the equal protection clause. We have the equal protection of the laws. This is all not only illegal under the Civil Rights Act, but it is also unconstitutional, and it simply cannot be done. There's not a whole lot that the left is going to be able to do about that, unless, of course, they end up packing the court. So I think all of these things are moving in the right direction. In some cases, I think the deterrent, the Trump administration is putting up, which is an excellent job, and as frankly is the best that I could have hoped for on these issues. Good. But, you know, at the end of the day, If Congress doesn't speak, right, if the Supreme Court doesn't make that kind of ruling, yes, like at some point this administration will leave office, right? But I still think that a lot of these things, especially in the private sector, will have lasting impact. Yeah, this is a lot of In the Weeds work, as they like to say, Inez. Thank you for taking a few minutes to join us. We'll keep our eye on it. Thank you so much. Thanks for having me. Thank you. On our newsmaker line, that's Inez Stepman. She is a senior policy analyst with the independent women's forum. And Greg, that's the work you've got to go. You know government. It works slowly. It's complex. It's intricate. But the administration said that we would take it on, and by the sounds of it, that's what they're doing. The key part she said there is that corporations are looking at what they think is potential legal liability. Well, once they see that, I think that's where the normal people start winning and wokeism starts losing.

I do. As it should be. All right, more coming up. It is The Rod and Greg show on Talk Radio 105-9, KNRS. It was brilliant. You had a brilliant thought, and you've now lost it. I've lost it. It's gone. It's gone. All right. All right. Well, Utah Senator Mike Lee had a chance to talk to him a little bit earlier on our any hour newsmaker line about a number of issues. So joining us on the program, our senior senator, Senator Mike Lee, fighting so hard for us here in Utah and for America with the Save America Act. Senator, welcome to the Rod and Greg show. Let me ask you, rumor has it. The president, President Trump's going to go visit with the majority Republican Senate caucus this week. Is that actually going to take place? Yes, there is. It'll be tomorrow, tomorrow at about 1245 Eastern. And we'll be discussing that and other priorities, but especially that. Look, my view has long been that we need to make it easy to vote and hard to cheat. The Save America Act gives us a perfect formula for doing that for non-controversial measures, backed by roughly three out of four of all American voters, Democrats and Republicans alike, who understand that there's a simple appeal. A simple logic that goes into saying, we're going to make people when voting in federal elections, they need to register with proof of citizenship. And when they show up on election day, they need to come up with photo ID so that we know that the people who are casting votes are entitled to be here, entitled to vote, and that they are who they say they are. That is not a bridge too far. And that's one of the things that we'll be discussing tomorrow. I want to ask you, Senator, because you tweeted out on this as well about this federal judge, I guess yesterday ruling on the administration, claiming it acted unlawfully when it created a centralized database that contains Americans' private information. What are your thoughts on that and your reaction to that? Yeah, look, I thought the ruling looked terrible. Judge Sparkle Sukh Nannan, a federal judge, worries about citizens being removed from voter rolls. Well, if that's the case, then she should have chosen a different remedy. But instead of... Doing that or instead of requiring safeguards or heightened review before anybody could be removed from a voter role, she shut down the expanded save database that's used by the states and maintained by the Department of Homeland Security to help the states check their their roles for non-citizens. That's not protecting voters. That's. protecting non-citizen voters attempting illegally to vote in U.S. elections. This is facilitating foreign election interference. They're trying to stop us from using the save database with or without the Save Act. They want to stop it. And it's that database that ensures that states have some means by which to make sure that only eligible Americans are able to remain on voter registration roles and able to vote. So why would a federal judge stop the government?

from even checking or having the ability to check to make sure that only lawful citizens are voting. I think the U.S. Department of Justice ought to immediately appeal the ruling or maybe seek an extraordinary writ of mandamus. And then meanwhile, encourage Congress to pass the Save America Act. Senator, is it too draconian on my part to think that we're hitting a dead end with our judicial branch generally? That these activist judges have embedded themselves over the years because you have a judge with a straight face saying, we want to protect people's right to vote, which we think you've infringed upon. So we'll keep voter rolls and everybody in the dark. Well, that doesn't do what you just said you wanted to do. Then you find out a judge has thrown out the subpoenas. for Governor Walls in Minnesota to understand the fraud that's going on in that state. Now you have a recent judge who said that you cannot take snap, you can't take snap benefits away for candy and for soda. And I just feel like we just have a judiciary that just, they're activists and they don't, they actually aren't interested in supporting the law. They got their own agenda. Yeah. You know, it reminds me of the, joke that my dad used to tell. Like me, he was a lawyer and used to say that, you know, uh, It's not fair to disparage an entire profession, all lawyers in America, on the basis of only eight or 900,000 bad apples. You can make maybe a corresponding allegation about federal judges. I actually do think it's true that our federal judicial system is the best of its kind in the world. Yes, there are awards. Yes, there are exceptions to that. Yes, there are judges who are out there coast playing as presidents. But the way to handle that is by holding them accountable, where appropriate, through impeachment and removal, but also through legislation that designs, that is designed to make sure that a judge can't just offset a policy determination by the president. So I introduced legislation last year. It would make it easier when you have a nationwide injunction like this one. It should receive fast track. appellate review and a fast track consideration by the U.S. Supreme Court. Because otherwise, you could have just a small handful of judges. And very often you've got some who are frequent flyers in this space who will just shoot down with injunction after injunction, presidential policy decisions. And sometimes the delay itself helps them achieve their victory. We need to get those reviewed very quickly and have a fast track to get them right in front of the Supreme Court. so we can get a yes or a no answer within a relatively short period of time. Senator Lee, let's stay on the vote. It's primary election day here in Utah and around the country. There are a number of key issues. We have seen yet another socialist elected mayor of a large city. We're talking about the nation's capital now. What do you make of these democratic socialists gaining ground in America? What is going on do you think? Well, they definitely are gaining ground, especially in our biggest cities.

That should alarm anyone who understands what made this country truly exceptional, and to those who also understand what Marxism is and what it does to any society that embraces it to any degree. There are few ideals that I consider more categorically hostile to the American experiment and to the American constitutional system than socialism or any other form of Marxism dressed up in modern language. America was itself built on the belief that rights come not from government, but from God, that property belongs to the citizen, not the state, and that opportunities created by free people, not central planners in a large, distant national government. Socialism attacks all of that. And it tells people quite falsely that someone else's success is a threat to them, that it's the cause of their hardship. Then it offers the very same answer every time. More government, more distant control by government officers, more dependency and less freedom. And that's really the progressive dream, which is itself a nightmare in its purest form. It's about coveting someone else's wealth. Calling it justice and handing more power to politicians to take it away and redistribute it. The reality is so ugly here that socialism doesn't lift the poor. It traps them in poverty. Socialism is not the least bit of a fresh idea. It's an old failure, just reemerged with better branding. We can't fall for it. No, we can. Utah Senator Mike Lee on our any hour news maker a while ago confirming today, big meeting with the president up in the Capitol tomorrow. Yeah, and I didn't even get to mention. They got another judge that just, a California-based judge that just said that he's issued a nationwide injunction that blocks ICE from arresting suspects, suspected illegal immigrants at immigration courthouses. Go figure. Okay. Yeah, go figure. Yeah, there are a dime a dozen these things now. All right, more coming up on the Rod and Greg show. A couple little interesting news notes. ESPN legend, Lyndon, is retiring. You know, I grew up watching her, so it's about right that she'd be retiring soon because she's been there for a long time. She has been there for, gosh, 34 years. Yeah, she has, and I've always liked Linda Cohn. I thought she's a good sports reporter. She did a very good job. Disney is in trouble with California facing a strict deadline set by a powerful California Environmental Regulatory Agency. Surprise, surprise. If Disney fails to overhaul its ride, the what's right is, gas-powered engines at a popular automobile-themed ride. I think it's called, I can't remember the name of it, but there are little cars that you drive around, right? Got to get rid of them. Why? Either electrify them or get rid of them. Of course. The last person out, turn the lights off in that state. I swear everybody needs to just. Yeah. It's a nice place to visit, but you don't want to live there. No. No, you're a frequent visitor now. I am, but it's not a place I don't want to live, but it's a nice place to visit. Yeah, it is. And it's too bad. You have to really. That they have ruined the state because it is such a great state to go to. The weather is so agreeable that you have to be really, really bad to force people to want to leave that state. That's how they've gotten away with it up until now, is that they had the best weather in the world.

But even that you can't do. Yeah. They are just, and look at all the fraud they're uncovering right now. These guys are, these guys are, you're either super rich or you're just scamming the system, making money, hand over fist. I mean, they have got so much fraud going on in that state. And just everyday people just can't afford to live there. Even the big companies are getting lost. It's so insane. They say you cannot live in California on a salary of $100,000 a year. There's not enough money. No, that's not. All right, we want to talk about the election. We'd like to find out who you voted for and why. Coming up next. Hour number two in the Ron and Greg Show on its way. He loves getting back to the working class people, the everyday people of America. And you don't find that in greater numbers. Or if you do, these guys, Pennsylvania workers really rival it. Anyway, the people behind him, as he was on that stage, the workers of the Mack truck manufacturer, they're smiling ear to ear. They just chant the USA, USA, a very... joyous and pretty good rally, a lot of energy. And he basically said, he said, look at the progress we've made. He's the ultimate salesman. I mean, he can sell USA like you wouldn't believe. That's right. But he asked him, he said, do you want to turn back what we've achieved? And now you've got in New York City today three communists, not socials, just call them what they are. Yeah, three communists who are running for congressional seats in that state. Yeah. This experiment where, you know, with democratically elected republic and all that, the sovereignty found with the people, had always assumed that people would vote in their best interest. You cannot look at what a communist or socialist promises you, see that they fail miserably, know that it doesn't help you a bit while the rich get richer, and still vote for that. But yet you have people that are doing it in these big metropolitan cities. And you got me. I don't know how. how they're getting away with it. But they are. You know, I wonder, you know, and we'll talk with John Hinderocker about this a little bit later on in the show. But I wonder, Greg, if, you know, the, how long have Democrats been in charge of most of major cities? Forever. Right? If you look in New York and other than maybe Rudy Giuliani years ago. But in Chicago, it's been like, what, 40, 60 years, something like that. You know, in some of these. Well, maybe the people are just saying, you know. We tried the liberal thing and looked what it's done. So maybe if we go to the socialism route, they'll be even better. Well, they've been getting socialism. They just haven't said socialism. The last two mayors of Chicago have been total socialists. They're just not, you know, they're just not leading with it. But they are. All of it's been that way. If that party can, has that city just crumbling, if they've got war zone numbers in terms of homicides or shootings or whatever it may be, how can you say, yeah, I want more of that? Like what version of the next candidate from that party coming up will convince you that they're going to change that trajectory in any way because they don't. They never do. Was it over the weekend? Seven or eight people were shot dead in Chicago and there were 30 or 40 others injured in gun shootings? Yeah, it's probably a Republican's fault somewhere. It's the easiest thing in the world to be a Democrat because all you have to do is blame Republicans. No matter if you could be on the clock, there could be not a Democrat or a Republican found forever and it's still all their fault.

Yeah. Somewhere. Somehow. It's just their fault. They'll make it their fault. They'll figure out a way to do it. They're good at that. Let's talk about Utah elections. Of course, this is primary election day today. The president has come out endorsing the incumbents in Utah House races, which I was a little bit surprised at, to be real honest. Yeah, I was surprised. I think some of, well. I'll just say there, I think you have some endorsements from Trump for candidates, incumbents that don't like Trump. And we're very clear in their races when they were running that they were not fans of Trump. They're recorded. There's video of them talking about January 6th. And this was like Confederacy takeover of the Capitol. There's all kinds of, there's a paper trail or a digital footprint of people that got his endorsement that don't like the president. And I'm a bit mystified by it, but there you go. Yeah, I mean, we're talking about Celeste Malloy, like more. Yep. They are not big supporters of Donald Trump. Not at all. Yet he came out and endorsed him today, which I, you know, I'm going, okay. Don't know where he got that information, but he did it. Yeah, you know, it's fine. I mean, I guess he can't know every, I can't. But I would just think the ones that were not that refused to say they supported him in any way, wherever voted for him and would not say because. They frankly didn't, but they didn't want to say that. So they just said they wouldn't say what the hell they voted. That's got to be a tell. I mean, the president's not dumb. I mean, he has to be probably. You would think someone who would put a note in front of him and say, no. I think, I don't know, but I think Speaker Johnson, he needs some help. He's got one of the thinest majorities of any Congress in American history. And so he probably asked the, gave the president a handful of names of people that he thought would have a hard time and could really use his endorsement. And he probably did it on that. Yeah. merit alone now i want to ask you because we want to we'd like to hear from our great listeners tonight if they're willing to share who they voted for and why yes because there are a lot of interesting races out there but i want to ask you you've been a candidate i have you know at both the state and federal level yes right right yep what is it like on election day for a candidate Oh, it's a lot of nervous energy. It's a lot of work. You come to the last – it's like a season. So it's not just the same job that you have every day, years and years out. You have this campaign season, and then you're ramping up your work. You're hitting it. You're hitting as hard as you can. And then you get to this final day where at some point, coming at the end of this day, there's nothing else you can do, nothing else you can say. You're still trying to get – you do the hunking waves in the morning. You do the – you're calling and you have volunteers calling to get out the votes. People that you've – there's called voter ID where you poll people or you sample people. You know who those supporters are. You're trying to make sure those that you know would support you would get out to vote. And then, you know, you get close to 8 p.m. You do a hunk and wave in the evening. And then you just – and then you just wait. And then you're going to wait until 8 p.m. And then you just sit and you just –

Make small talk. You try and burn some time. As you sit at the campaign event on election night and you make small talk waiting for those numbers to finally come in. Does your gut tell you something? On election day. Everyone's different. And you can, as you can probably imagine, I'm a little different than maybe other. I don't know. Maybe I'm not. Really? But I had a, I had a swing thought. I had a mindset when I ran as a candidate that I was losing until I won. So I never thought, I've got this in the bag. I've got this. Well, you can't think that, though, can you? No, I think it's a very dangerous way. Dangerous way to think. The only way you can beat me is to sneak up on me. I'm not taking you serious enough. I didn't prepare well enough and you can sneak up. That's the only way you can beat me. But if I have the attitude that I am losing every single day until I win. then I am sitting here on this day still calling people, still asking people if they haven't voted yet, please get out to vote. Every vote counts. I don't care how big the race is. You're doing that until you can't do it anymore. So at least you can say at the end, I did everything I could do. And if I don't win, if the people decide otherwise, well, they did. But it's certainly because I'm not because I was lazy or I was sitting back or I took it for granted. That's true. Well, over the last several days, you know I'll know, Greg, we've had almost every candidate in the state calling us saying, can we get on your show? Yes, we have. And that's the problem, folks, is that if you have one you'd like to talk to, then it's like an avalanche. You've got to be fair. We try and be fair. So we thought the best way to go out this would be ask you the voters out there. Today, if you'd like to tell us who you voted for, and there's some anonymity here. We don't know what you look like. You can give us a fake name if you want. I don't care. But we'd like to know who you voted for and why. I think that's a great question. I think it's a good way to spend today on primary day. Who did you vote for and why? If you care to share, this, I'll tell you what, I'd put my money on this, the collective wisdom of this audience every day and twice on Sunday. So if you'd like to call and share your feelings on, on different races, I think it would. help those that might be on their way home to hear a little bit about some of the candidates maybe they maybe they're in the same district and they might you might influence 888 570801010 on your cell phone of course we invite you to dial pound 250 and say hey rod or leave us a message on the talkback line by downloading the iHeart radio up your calls and comments coming up On this Tuesday afternoon, by the way, Abby will be providing election updates tonight when the polls close, starting at 8 o'clock, and she'll be here through the 10 o'clock newscast at the top of the 10 o'clock, giving you the latest results, and that's taking place. Polls don't close until 8 o'clock. Now, right now, we're asking you. We're looking for some input on this primary election day. If you care to, we'd love to hear who you voted for and why. What was the key issue in your decision to vote who you vote?

voted for 888-5708010 or on your cell phone dial pound 250 and say hey Ron. Yeah, so let's go right now to Bob waiting from Salt Lake City. Bob, thank you for holding and welcome to the Ron and Greg Show. Hey, how are you guys doing? Good. Hey, I'm just down here. I wasn't even coming here to vote in the Salt Lake County Voting Center and there's like 300 people online waiting to vote in the blueberry district. I'm a Republican, so I didn't have any ballot to vote. But it was just kind of amazing with mail-in voting and early voting, there's all these people here standing in line waiting to vote. Do they have blue hair? Bob, or they look like people like us. You can tell me. It's okay. You know, it was amazing how many of them were just pretty normal looking, work-a-day people, you know. Nice. The Normies. The Normies are out. They're coming out in force. Blueberry District. I like that. That's what we should call it from now on, the Blueberry District. I'm telling you, look at this, man. We are, we've got live. You know, on the ground reporting going on. Our listeners are giving us a great view. Good. The Normies are coming out. They're getting off of work saying, you know what? I'm going to go ahead and vote. I did think about one thing when I was voting today about because you say this all the time. Yep. My wife and I, we filled out our mail-in ballots, right? But I drove them down today. I was doing a little ballot harvesting because she could. Yeah, she took her. I took her ballot with me. But I got thinking, I dropped it off at the ballot box there at the... the Cadesville branch of the Davis County Library. That's where they usually do it. But that box was there all by a little lonesome. Yes. No one monitoring it? Nope. No one knew if I was dropping off one or 500 ballots at the time. We don't allow ballot harvesting in the state. You can do it from the same household, but you're not supposed to be going out into care centers and everything, collect them all. But no, how... I don't care how much. If some county clerk, some election clerk wants to tell you, well, it's more work. Well, guess what? Transparency and chain of custody is more work than not. Okay? Yes. So, but that is not a reason to not do it. But if you can't put an elections person at a ballot box, a drop box, let them scan the ID. Heaven forbid us. So you got rodeo queens. Let it at least be the same last name and address so you can do it. Whatever it may be, create a chain of custody. I don't know why this is why anyone would be against that. Now, I did notice though this year on the mail-in ballots. This is new, I think. They asked you for the last four digits of your social security number or of your driver's license. Yeah, that's, is that new? Yes, that is new. And that is an increased level of security or. Which is great. Yeah, or chain of custody. Because you have to, again, California being the worst. case example. They allow ballot harvesting of all kinds. This is why California lawmakers at least don't want federal elections that require an ID because it would end their ballot harvesting efforts because you couldn't get all the IDs to vote in a federal election. So Congress, Senate, U.S. president, they would have, they would have to each one individually go. Well, that takes out the whole skid row, 70,000 people they get to, you know, bring in ballots for. So the, so ballot harvesting is a nightmare.

They have some election laws that are actually legal in California that if you did something as simple as say you have to have an ID, a legally issued ID to show that you are legally eligible to vote, it would interrupt the scam they've created in some of these states. Well, if I would have gone in. And voted, how are they doing now, right? You would have to present your ID. You absolutely would. But if I drop it off the mailbox, I don't have show anything. Nothing. Just drop it off. Just drop it off. And that signature that they want to tell you is so highly scrutinized. It's not. It can be, but it might not be. And that is catching people both ways. It's throwing out ballots of people that actually did sign it lawfully. And then it does allow for ballots that people sign that we're signing it for someone else. It does. It's the worst of both cases. Whereas if you present your ID, there you go. There you go. It's that simple. And so if you go in personally, that's what you have to do. And I've never found that oppressive. I've never found that offensive. And if someone does. Maybe then just sit it out. This whole measure of whether a campaign successful or not by the voter turnout, if all you cared about was making it as easy as possible, well, they could make dancing with the stars, let's just dial a phone number and let's just vote that way. If that's all you care about, then I don't think you're getting, I don't know that who people vote for or who votes you necessarily are going to be happy with. But if you have to put some effort in. Maybe just that even that some effort makes it a more valued process that people will appreciate and maybe spend some time thinking about. 888-5708010 or on your cell phone dial pound 250. Say, hey, Roger. You can also leave us a message on our talkback line. Let's go to the talkback listener right now. Here what he has to say. I'm wondering with the people who vote socialism if... If in those areas, they have a disproportionate amount of poor because socialists pledge free everything, free grocery store, free housing, free daycare. People who are poor will want free. They don't care who pays for it. Yeah, and you've noticed, you noticed, Greg, most of the major cities, some of the major cities in our country right now have a socialist mayor. Yeah. Okay. They also have a high poverty rate. Yes, they do. In those cities. Look, they want to socially engineer your life. They want you so dependent on them. They'll tell you how you're going to live, where you're going to live. They'll give you a caste system that you'll fit in and you'll never leave. That's the way they want to do it. And there's some people that maybe their circumstances are that, that they don't have any aspirations higher than that. But I don't know, land of the free home of the brave. I've got to believe there's more.

everyday people that love this country and, you know, want that freedom of self-determination. Yeah, let's see if we can get one more caller in before we break. Let's go to Jerry in Oakley tonight. Jerry, how are you? Welcome to The Rod and Greg Show. Hey, guys, I voted for Phil Lyman. He's a fighter. He's Utah's Trump. And he's been in prison and he's got, he got a pardon. But he's a fighter. He's not with this. You know, every ad that Celeste Maloy had is brought to you by a political action committee, out-of-state money, and she and her buddy Blake Moore, who was a pal with Liz Chady, who wanted to throw the J-Sixers under the bus. So, you know, I think the president has a problem with some of these endorsements. I think some of the deep state still has his ear. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you, Jerry. I was surprised on the endorsements. But he's right. Phil Lyman is a fighter. And he's right. So the DOJ, he did a Freedom March, and it was over this Bureau of Land Management Land. He told the ranges and stuff, hey, I'm coming there. We're going to do this. He was a county commissioner at the time. It was over the area where there was a pipe, so it was already disturbed land. But they did that march. The Democrat administration went after him. Actually, he got found guilty and actually served some time for that Freedom March, which was saying, hey, we're in Utah. We should be able to walk over this land. We should be fine. They used to be. It was just getting more strict. And I do think, you know, the point about the outside money and all of that that's coming in and who's... paying for these campaign ads, it's true. It's true. There is a lot going on. It's a bit disturbing. All right. More coming up, your calls, your comments on this primary election day on Utah's Talk Radio 1059, KNRS. Like you were saying, Greg, you know, they release some numbers right away, correct? Yeah, both close at eight. What numbers are they releasing? So ballots began to be mailed a couple weeks ago. I think it was a few, a couple weeks ago. Yeah, a couple weeks ago. People, there's like, I've seen the numbers how they work. So a lot of people, when they receive their ballots, they will sit down, fill them out, and then mail them in, or I don't know if the drop-off boxes are open in, but there's a big surge when they first mail out of a lot of ballots that arrive. Then it kind of tails off and it gets quiet. And then as you get closer to the primary day or election day, you'll see the surge of those that are mailed in or submitted ahead of time. come back. And so the number you get right after 8 p.m. are usually the number of ballots that were received throughout this month after the mail out had happened. And so they'll have that number ready to go when they report. That's not all the mail. Certainly not all the mail-in ballots, but those that were received earliest after being mailed out, you'll get those numbers right pretty quickly after 8 p.m. You know, the one thing I saw this year that I have not seen... ever when it comes to a political season. And there are a lot of political signs out there. You can see them everywhere, right? Absolutely. But I see a lot of them now with an added sign on it that says, vote now. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. You know, and just a reminder, you've got your ballot. Vote now. Now, think about this, too, one of the scams about, one of the sad parts about mail-in voting is instead of having a day where everybody votes in the day and you can kind of time your mail and everything and all your campaign activities for that big day.

You got three weeks that amount to basically an election day, which is incredibly expensive. So it adds the cost. What does the cost do to a candidate? It means that they have to raise more money. What do you have to do when you raise more money? You've got to go out there and glad hand with donors more than you can with the public. You'd ask for their vote. It's highly expensive. The campaign and elections industrial complex enjoys three week long election days. They make a lot of money doing it. A lot of money doing it. And I don't think that the public served with such a long, all under the banner of let's be as lazy and make it as carefree and easy as humanly possible. Heaven forbid we go and vote in person and show an ID. That's the worst thing I've ever heard. We're asking who you voted for and why 888-570801010. Again, on your cell phone, you can dial pound 250 and say, hey, Rod, or leave us a talk by comment from this listener. Hi, guys, this is Jeff. Part of my voting procedure was to make sure that anybody I vote for went through the caucus system. If they gathered signatures to get in, I automatically disqualify him. Beautiful. That's a refiner's fire. I love that. That's the way I, that's the way to do it, in my opinion, is, you know, go to the convention or, like you were saying, Greg, and you've enlightened me, which is really, really difficult. Erie, did you get that on tape? Yeah. Did you get that on video? We got, we got to replay that. We got to make that a bumper. But, but the point you make, and it's been stressed for a long, long time, people who go to the caucus meetings and the conventions are die hard. I mean, they educate themselves, inform themselves, meet with the candidates. And the other voters are kind of half and half, if that. Some just fill out the form and they don't care. I got to tell you, real quick, I had a delegate. I went to visit her at her home looking to earn her support. She had two pages handwritten of votes I had made over the years that she didn't like and didn't understand why. And I just had to say, some of them, I don't even remember. I've got to go look that up. But that was actually a good refiners fire. She had me back. I answered them as best I could then, but... I wanted to come back for some I didn't remember. And I'll tell you what, that is a great way to test a candidate. Write down every vote they've made you don't like or you don't understand. And make them justify why you're your vote, why you'd support them again. I thought I was good. It is the Rod and Greg show on this election day, primary election day here in the state of Utah and Utah's talk radio 1059, KNRS. I love the 250. I'm feeling it. I'm feeling it every day. And we love today because hopefully people, you know, let's see, Greg, the polls are open to. So you've got a couple of hours. If, you know, if we can do anything, I think it is to encourage you to go vote today. I mean, there are interesting primary elections in this state. The midterms are going to be fascinating to watch this year. I mean, maybe more so than we've seen in a long, long time. Because, you know, the Democrats have already laid out their plan.

Yeah, and the number one, it's a scary plan. Yeah, and the number one, the number one item on that plan, get Trump. It's all it is. If they, they, they're going to send them articles of impeachment over as soon as they can. They're just going to cut and paste whatever they've done last time. They're not going to wait. It's going to be like, as soon as they gavel in a new speaker, they'll be sending articles of impeachment 10, 20 minutes later. But the Senate, that's another scary one, because if you get to any kind of numbers where they can make Puerto Rico a state, give you two Democrat senators, Washington, D.C. as state, makes that two Democrat senators. That's four that you won't see become Republican anytime soon. You can get rid of the electoral college. That doesn't help us at all, obviously. Those big socialist electing mayor, mayoral metropolitan cities of America will then make sure we don't have a voice. And then you've got the reapportionment of Congress, where they're going to let every illegal in the world either be counted for the census to count your congressional district minimally, but probably honesty to let people vote that, I mean, they're flirting around the lines right now saying we don't want to, it's against the law to vote if you're not American citizen, but we don't want to make that formalize that. They're just going to get rid of that. Yeah. Is what they'll try to do. Well, and here's the other thing. Both Hillary and Kamala Harris have brought this up in the last couple of days. I think we need to explore the electoral college. Yeah. Here we go again, right? Here we go again. Isn't it funny? Obama won two terms. Do you ever hear a Democrats say, we need to take a look at the electoral college? Joe Biden won? Did anyone bring it up when Joe Biden won? They probably should have, but they didn't. No. But here we go again. The Democrats floating this idea out there because just in case they lose in 28, here we go again with another debate on the electoral college. What the founders did. in setting this up was brilliant yes it is it really is so and to take this apart But remember, you get electoral votes based on your congressional number of representatives and then your Senate. Every state gets two, but then it's your current. So if you're counting congressional districts with illegals in it, you get more congressional districts, which means you get more votes in the electoral college. So I think they, you know, they've gamed that part too. They might not like the electoral college, and it would work better just to have a raw number because they can really harvest votes like they did in L.A. They can just. play all those games. They can get those major metropolitan areas to vote high, eliminating the smaller rural parts of our country. And that's what the electoral college is designed to prevent. But even the electoral college they mess around with. And by the way, I didn't even mention the Supreme Court. They're going to get rid of all the election. They're going to put a term limit on all these conservative Supreme Court justices, and they're going to stack the court with more. They want 13. Yeah. We currently have nine.

They won 13. For anyone that's any Republican senator that says, I don't want to, I don't want to do a talking filibuster. Like the Civil Rights Act was used to pass in 1960. I don't want to do that. Or in the 60s. They're already as aggressive as possible. And they are very aggressive in the things they want to do. But like you said, Greg, you've got stack in the court, impeachment, you name it. They're going to try and do it. And that's why these midterms are so very important. Yeah. And again, if you don't want to vote, don't. If you have no, if you're just filling out saying, oh, I got a vote and I'll check this, check that. Don't do it. I really do. I think thoughtful voting. I think looking up the candidates, making a vote of conscience, that's important. If it's just a convenience issue, it's just too hard to do. You know what? Most of this world, and up until 250 years ago, nobody cared what you thought. You weren't getting a chance to weigh in on who should be in charge, who should be elected. They did it by birth, and they did it by caste systems, and you weren't part of it. So enjoy that you get to be a part of it, but really be a part of it. The Rise of Socialism in America. We're going to explore that when you come back. Howard number three of the Rodengring show. A lot going on tonight. Stay with us tonight. Abby will be doing election updates at the top and the bottom of the hour throughout the evening. So if you're looking for the latest during the Jesse Kelly show, stay with Jesse. And Abby will be there as well to give you news updates. Yes, it'll be good. I mean, you're going to get some numbers right away. And let's just hope that we're going to get these numbers faster than we typically do. It usually takes two weeks or more. Let's just see. Let's hope it goes quick. Yeah, yeah. All right. Let's go to the phones. We've got a caller in wanting to talk about the election. Mike is in Salt Lake City. Mike, how are you? Thanks so much for joining us. I'm good. Good. Thank you for letting me call. I just... You guys talked about voting tonight, and so I went to the polls, and it's only for Democrats. And so I just voted out, voted against the most popular Democrats so that we could have a least competitive bid. Very good. You subscribe to the same thing I do, Mike. The most offensive district, you've got to get the most offensive candidate from on the Democrat side. Good man. Get the crazy ones, right, Mike? Yeah, they told me I could only vote Democrat. And I said, oh, okay, well, I'll vote Democrats. I don't know if it changes my position in the county. But they asked me if I wanted to have a mail-in ballots. But.

So anyway, but during the general election, I can vote for whoever I want to feel. Yeah, you sure can. All right, Mike. Thank you for sharing that. Just vote for the whack jobs. Well, let me just say public service announcement, Democrat Party, Utah's Democrat Party does not require you to be affiliated as a Democrat unaffiliated. You can be a registered Republican and vote in a Democrat primary. And if you don't have anyone to vote for in the Republican primary, then you're supposed to. Weird thing is the state. election site says you have to be either a registered Democrat or unaffiliated to vote in the primary. That would be incorrect. That would not be true. It's good. I'm sure the Democrats appreciate that because they don't want Republicans helping steer their nomination like Democrats try to steer Republican primary elections. But yeah, you can be a registered Republican and vote in the Democrat primary. by Democrat Party design. Well, let's move on and talk a little bit about socialism. The rise of socialism. Speaking of Democrats. Democrats, Socialism, Communists, they're all one in the same, I think, anymore in this country. I want you to hear the numbers that Harry Enton. Our good friend at CNN found the other day about socialism within the Democratic Party. When we talk about Democratic Socialists, how are they viewed inside the Democratic Party? Yeah, you know, you mentioned New York, you mentioned Vermont, obviously. There's the D.C. mayor. We've seen it in Pennsylvania as well. The Democratic Socialists seem to be doing considerably better than they used to be, and they have the chance to knock off, in fact, Democratic incumbents in Congress. And part of the reason for that, why we're seeing these Democratic Socialists having such good chances or downright... outright winning nominations is take a look here, net favorability among Dems, Democratic Socialists of America, look at that. a plus 17 point net favorability rating on Democrats. That is actually better. That is better than how congressional Democrats are viewed by Democrats at just plus four points. So no wonder that Democratic Socialists have such a good chance. Because simply put, they are a better brand at this point than Democrats in Congress. That's a bad commentary. Harry Enton from CNN. Well, joining us on our Any Hour Newsmaker line to talk more about this is our good friend John Hinderrocker. He writes for power. line. John, thanks for joining us tonight. The sudden rise of socialism within the Democratic Party. How did it happen, John? It's a great question. You know, a socialist just won the Democratic primary for mayor of Washington, D.C., so there's another one. She's going to win for sure in the general. Another socialist mayor, a guy like Graham Platner in Maine, you know, who's described himself as a communist. And so I know, obviously very, very far left. And when I was growing up, socialist was like an epithet, you know. Yeah. It'd be like an insult to call some of the socials. No one would have dreamed of running for public office saying, yeah, I'm a socialist, you know. And of course, that's changed. Now it's kind of a fad. It's got a certain cachet. Hey, I'm a socialist. And Democratic primary voters are eating it up. Why is that? I don't know. I mean, I think there's a sense there.

on the left, in a sense among a lot of young people in particular, that they keep getting more and more liberal and doesn't do them any good. You know what I mean? The liberal policies, you know, the liberals have been running our cities for 50, 60, 70 years, right? Yeah. And they're not much to show for it. And so I think part of what's happening probably is that some people are looking around and say, well, what the heck, you know, let's try something different. Let's go even farther left. You know, and I don't know what they're seeing that they want more of. I think that you're exactly right. But you bring up an interesting point. How can a people in this nation work together, Republicans and Democrats, when you see that the stark contrast between those that support the free market are Republicans and those that want socialism or Democrats, how do you work together? Is that even possible? Well, you know, the post that I did on Powerline started with a CNN poll that found that 66% of Democrats have a favorable view of socialism. Only 42% have a favorable view of capitalism, and that's changed radically in just a small number of years. And, you know, I can remember when hot debates in the political realm were over what's the best marginal income tax rate. Well, you know, if the Democrats want a marginal income tax rate of 32 percent and the Republicans want 24 percent, you know, you can negotiate that. And it makes a difference. But, you know, it's the kind of a difference that you can compromise on. But you can't have socialism in New York and California and free enterprise in Texas and Tennessee. You know, these are different economic systems. And I don't really know how you compromise between a group of people who want to have a socialist economy and a socialist political system and another group of people like us, you know, who want to have a free enterprise economy. in a free political system. John, let me ask you, we've seen, as we've mentioned, you know, the mayors of some of these large cities being elected as socialist. What is it going to take, or maybe they've already woken up, but the American people to wake up and say, what on earth is going on here? And do they realize, you know, the more power they gain, the change it would make in America? I don't know. I mean, we certainly haven't seen that happening yet. The socialist wave continues to build. I suppose there could be some disillusionment if people look at cities like New York and Seattle and see that they're going downhill and draw a lesson from that. You know, this mayor of Seattle, this young woman who I think at last word was being supported by her parents, you know. uh... this this seven years she's addressing a group of people talking about well millionaires are good the people say millionaires are going to leave seattle okay bye you know the crowd cheers well they are leaving seattle you know starbucks is talking about i'm not sure if they've actually done it or not i can't remember but starbucks is talked about leaving seattle a lot of companies a lot of people are leaving south just like they're leaving minneapolis which is

I live in the Twin Cities area, and just like they're fleeing New York, and they're fleeing the cities in California. I don't know that the public is going to perceive that the results, the socialists are getting, are any worse? I mean, look at a city like Chicago. You know, what are more people going to get shot if they have a socialist mayor? I don't know. I mean, what the real mystery, it seems to me, is why people of these cities don't look around and say, you know, we've been voting for liberal Democrats. since my grandfather was voting for liberal democrats, whether you're in Chicago, you know, or Washington or almost any big city in America, New York, and most of the big cities. And I don't know why people don't seem to look around and say maybe we should vote for something. different. So here's, you know, give the other party a chance. So here's what I don't understand either is that the people that are the voice of, because I think they're socialists, whether they declare they are or not, I think Chicago's mayor, last two have been socialist. But you've got Graham Platner, who's a, sometimes he called himself a communist. He's getting taken care of by his parents. He's kind of a trust fund kid. James Talarico shares a bank account with his mother. He's a trust. I don't, I don't think that kid's grown up yet. Zohran Mamdani, he's a rich theater kid, you know, there was a rapper before he wanted to be a mayor. Then you just mentioned the mayor's Seattle. Some of these people are not even capable of supporting themselves as adults. That's why. Why are they? People vote for them. So how do they become the Pied Piper for this socialism? They didn't live in socialism. Somebody made money in their family, wasn't them. But I just don't understand how when you learn a little bit about these voices. It betrays their whole movement because they didn't live the way they're telling people they want to govern. Well, we've seen that for a long time. You know, Carl Marx really never could support himself. He lived off Friedrich Engels. You know, Engels' father made the money. You know, they had a factory in, what, Manchester. And that's what, that's what Carl Marx lived off. I think from most of his adult life, as did, as did Engels. I mean, it's kind of an old story of people whose parents or grandparents made money, and now they want to be socialists. John Hinder Rocker joining us from Power Line talking about socialism within the Democratic Party and some breaking news tonight, Greg. NBA draft underway. Number one pick, number one pick is the player from the...

BYU Cougars. Yes. Here's the announcement made by the commissioner of the NBA a moment ago. With the first pick in the 2006 NBA draft, the Washington Wizard select Anise de Bonsa Jr. from Brigham Young University. Big pick, number one, number one in the NBA. That's about the only thing I'm going to be excited about in the NBA is that BYU got a player, number one overall pick. He's going to the Washington Wizards. How do you think that's going to go? Does Jim Jordan still play for them? I don't remember. Okay. I haven't been paying attention. I don't think so. I think he retired years ago. All right. Well, he was good. Yeah. I just. And they just signed another player. The Wizards, what's his name? Trey. Trey, think of his name out of Atlanta. Trey Young. For like. A half a billion dollars. What happened? That salary cap. Yeah, that went out the window. That's for sure. All right. More coming up. The Rod and Greg Show and Talk Radio 105-9, KNRS. On your way home, wondering, okay, who did the Jazz select in the NBA draft that got underway just about 20 minutes ago? Here's the announcement. With the second pick in the 2006 NBA draft, the Utah Jazz select Darren Peterson from the University of Kansas. It's all going to go going according to plan from what I've seen, and I haven't paid a lot of attention to it, but they were basically saying, look, it'd be A.J. De Bonza, number one, Darren Peterson, number two, and Carlos Boozer's son, number three, and he was just selected by the Grizzlies. There you go. So, right in that order. Isn't he a twin? Isn't Bozer a twin? Yeah. They're twin, yeah. They're twin, yeah. Oh, the other twin. So one went to the draft. And the twin is smaller than. than boozer. His brother, it's shorter. Really? Yeah. It's kind of a weird twin. Huh. I don't think twins are supposed to work that way. It must not be, what are they? Not identical twins? No, they aren't identical. Paternal twins, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but he decided to stay at Duke for another year. All right. And he'll probably get more money playing at Duke than he would in the NBA. Yeah, that's true. They're probably making bank at Duke. What's he needed an NBA career for? You'd be just fine, just fine. Oh, by the way, Congress actually has done something. Oh, please. Now, I want you to sit down and be ready for this. Okay. Okay. They have now passed a housing bill, cementing a pure bipartisan effort. They actually worked together on something and passed a new housing bill to make it easier for Americans to get into a home. You're lucky to me like, big deal. Yeah, I don't buy it. No, the president's behind it. House passed it. President's going to sign it. Do you know any details about it? Yeah. Well, I haven't got a lot just when I'm... Well, because I just don't get bills passing for affordable houses. It sounds like we're housing czars. Like, I just don't get it. I really don't. Well, they're making it easier, apparently. I don't have all the details. It just came across. But apparently it's going to be easier to build a home there and get rid of some of the restrictions and hopefully speed up the process.

And you know there's a housing shortage in this country. You get more houses on the market. Hopefully prices will go down. What? Sometimes it's easier to build a house when a city can't tell you no. Okay? And you know what that means? Yeah. That means building like multifamily condos, a zillion of them on an intersection. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah. Well, a bipartisan effort, there is a new housing bill. Okay. Which hopefully will make housing homes. I hate being a cynic. I don't like being a cynic. I want to be optimistic. So I will try to find this glass half full. I mean, I'm just, I just want that Save America Act pass. I don't care. I think nothing should pass until they pass that thing. I'm with you on that. I just can't handle that. You know, everyone in Congress, if you can't pass that, don't talk about the 250 year anniversary, don't talk about our founding fathers, don't talk about their sacrifice, all that they did. If you can't even pass that bill that 75% of America or more. want past. If you can't muster the political will to do that, you lose your right to talk about our founding fathers because you're not even up. You're not up to the task. Yeah. Ready for some shocking news? Yes. You ready for this? A Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas has released a new report and it shows that Joe Biden's record inflow of illegal aliens to the United States raised home prices and rents for all Americans. Well, no kidding. Yeah, seriously. No fooling. Yeah, yeah. All right, more coming up. Rod and Greg with you here on Utah's Talk Radio 105-9, KNRS. We'll have all the reaction to today's vote on the show tomorrow. I'm Rod Arquette. I'm Citizen Greg Hughes. NBA Jazz fans, here's an update as to what's going on. The NBA draft is underway, number one, as expected. A.J. DeBanzah from BYU, going to the Washington Wizards, the Jazz with a second picked, selecting Darren Peterson from Kansas. Also. right in line and Cameron Boozer went to the Memphis Grizzlies. So there's your top three about what everyone was predicting. Yeah, so far so good. But again, I just, the NBA has, the blooms come off the rows with the NBA for me. I can't get excited about it. Yeah. I can't. Well, I like, I love hockey. I love the mammoth. Yeah. I love the NHL have arrived. Yep. That's going to be my sport. Yep. Always has, you know, NHL is excited. I mean, this year's playoffs were absolutely amazing. Stanley Cup players. They really were. They were blast. It was a good Stanley Cup. I mean, I know it ended in six, but I'll tell you what, that was a hard fight Stanley Cup. That was a very competitive Stanley Cup. Very competitive. All right. President today was, where was he, in Pennsylvania? Yes. At a Mac truck factory. Yes. And he loved to, he mentioned this almost right off the top, Greg, that as of today, 19 million barrels of oil went through the straight-of-horror moods yesterday. Yeah, and that's up to, I think 20 million a day is kind of the, what was the norm before? Is that it? Is that it? So I think they're, I think they're, what he's trying to say is we're getting back to normal. We'll see. I, you know, until.

this 60 days for a final agreement to be done. We're kind of in a wait-and-see mode. I refuse to kick Lucy's football sitting there waiting for me again. I will just wait for results. I'm going to, I'm just going to, I'm not going to say, I'm not going to make any conclusions right now. We're just going to watch. Look, whatever Trump's doing, it's better than any of the people that have not done anything before. Well, there's no doubt, Greg, that Donald Trump has kind of upset the world in everything. You know, he's basically saying to our allies, you've got to kind of start paying your fair share. We're getting a little tired of this. At the end of the Cold War, it's like they had this infrastructure with NGO, however they were funneling money all over the world. And then they just got up to trouble. Like they weren't trying to fight communism anymore. They just started socially engineering everybody else's country, the CIA or whatever they were doing. So I just think that it's time for a realignment globally. And there's no better president situated to do that than President Trump. James Thorne is a chief market strategist now joining us on our any hour newsmaker line to talk about the resetting. What exactly, in your opinion, Jim, has Donald Trump done to really upset or change what the world looks like today? What he's trying to do, and I should say what he's achieving is he's resetting the system. And what he's doing is with specifically with Iran, and we can also think about Venezuela, is he's going after those, these countries that were state-sponsored terrorists. And they. Mr. Trump wants to eliminate that. And so what he is doing differently is he's not the classic neo-con type president that wants to put boots on the ground and do regime change. He has definitive things that he wants, definite things that he wants to get done. And then he wants to stand back and let the country. govern itself in a sovereign way and be a good citizen. That's what's different this time. So you have a bunch of countries that we've been allies with since World War II or post-World War II. And, you know, we played the protector. And there was a giant subsidy. I think that must have grown. I mean, there had to be a two-way street at some point. But you don't see it today. You see what that NATO really wasn't effective as we've been dealing with Iran. Do you foresee other nations, maybe those that haven't been traditional allies?

allying with the United States for security, that are willing to have a two-way street and protect themselves and partner with the United States to do the same? Yes, it's a brand new world. The period of time after World War II, where the United States footed a bill to rebuild the global economy, opened up their markets, and basically allowed countries to use what they would call mercantilist economic policies, think China. is over. And so, you know, whether you are an ally or whether you are an adversary, what people have to understand is this is a new game. And once you understand that, the old rules of the old game are over. And that's okay. What did Trump see that other presidents didn't see or maybe didn't want to see, Jim? What did he see that change things? Well, if you go back to his interviews on Oprah back in the 80s, he's been saying this for a long time. That's true. And, you know, I could even go back to the 1940s when Keynes at Brenton Woods basically warned, you know, Harry Dexter White, the American negotiator, that this is not, this is going to end badly for America. And so this isn't new. He's just willing to deal with the problems. And, you know, he's an outsider and he's willing to do it. And this is why he's possibly the most consequential president in American history. You know, I follow you on X, and I find your post to be incredibly insightful. I just enjoy the things that you post about. You've been bullish about the president's action in Iran for a long time. And you've pointed to this being resolved, having the midterms and being in a good place come Memorial Labor Day. Do you still feel that way? I mean, is this feel like a ping pong ball to you at all or a ping pong table, or do you still think this is going in the right direction to a successful resolution? Yeah, it is. And, you know, it's, you know, pieces are being put in place every day. And the thing that I would suggest your listeners do is just listen to the president and his cabinet and ignore the noise from the traditional mainstream media that aren't on side. We are going to get a peace dividend. Iran had to be dealt with. The nuclear threat's going to be gone. They are no longer going to sponsor terrorism. That is going to change the world completely. Add on, Maduro and Venezuela. We are setting ourselves up for a period of wonderful growth. And if you would just listen to what the president is doing and look at his actions, you can see that the future looks very bright for the United States. Jim, what do you think is going on in Iran itself right now? Do you have a sense as to who's in charge, not in charge, who's running the country, who the president is dealing with? I mean, what is your sense about the situation in Iran itself right now? I really don't have an edge on it, and I'm just going to lean off of what the president has to say. But what I really think is happening is that the regime is still in power, but they're weak. And so what I think is going to transpire is we're going to get a deal. We're going to move on. And then the locals will take, you know, who will maintain power or get power will be determined locally.

It will not be determined in Washington, D.C., which is exactly what the president has said from the get-go. Do you find one of the – I mean, we look at the polling numbers, everything else. It seems like the – I call them the regime media. They will take the equivalent of Baghdad Bob. They'll take anything that Iran says, and they'll take it to the bank, and they'll say this is the state of play. This is real. What you're hearing from President Trump is not accurate. You'll have Centcom come out and correct and know the Strait of Hormuz is open. How big of a barrier is the regime media? I mean, are people still listening to them? Do they create the perception that we're losing this war with Iran? I'm with you. I feel bullish about it. I don't know what else we would do other than what he's doing. But how big of a barrier is America's media in pitting the people against President Trump? Well, it is noise. Right. There's no doubt about it. And, you know, we have to tune out the noise. And so, you know, what I tend to do is I tend to look at market-based measures. For example, you know, everybody's, you know, screaming about inflation. If there's this term called break-evens, if you look at the break-evens, those inflationary expectations of one, three, five years, the inflationary scare is over and done with. So we're going to get lower rates. You know, his new, his new, the president's, the new Fed Chair Kevin Warsh is not a hawk, but yet they do say that. And so I don't know if their constituency, the traditional media is progressive Democrats. But what I can tell you is people are ignoring them and their viewership and their listenership is down. which is exactly what a market should do. You know, if they're not going to be able to provide objective analysis, why would you listen to them? That's right, Jim Thorne. Thank you, Jim. Joining us, very perspective. You follow him on social media, and he had some very interesting observations about what's going on. Yeah, folks, if you, if you, I don't know if you've seen, he's got a great following. He's got over 100,000 followers. James Thorne, it's at Dr. J. Strategy. He's chief market strategist for Wellington Altus and Ph.D. and economy economist. And I just think his merging of analysis on economic conditions, the political analysis, and then with a historical context, those three things, he laces into his posts, they're a bit long form, but they are just good. And so... I really enjoy watching or following him on X, and I think he is James E. Thorne at Dr. J. Strategy is worth following if you don't. He's a good one. You think Donald Trump has changed the world? 100%. Yeah, he's the one that can. I mean, he has the personality that he's willing to do it. He is the one that can do it. Yep. All right, more coming up. Rod and Greg with you right here on Utah's Talk Radio 1059, KNRS. If you're going to vote in person, which I think is cool, make sure you do before 8 p.m. polls close at 8. Results soon come after that. I hope, I think the law will apply this year, I think, that says that.

After election day, they don't accept ballots. They don't accept ballots. Well, you didn't even get to vote today. There's nobody in your district. There was a race that you had to worry about. No, and I don't even, there wasn't a Democrat one either. So we didn't receive any mail-in ballot. There was no. Queen B told me, I was ready to vote. I was ready to go because I'm an informed citizen. Well, not informed enough to know that there wasn't an election in my district. Little note, Greg. Boy, Seattle's mayor, Katie Wilson, is really tearing it up, man. She, that city is losing more jobs like you wouldn't believe. Here's the latest. Bye-bye. Yeah, she said, here's what she said. 800 million dollars, 2,000 aerospace jobs chosen to be created in Montana. Good job. Good job, Mayor. A legendary Washington family business, Janicki Industries, and they build parts for Boeing Dreamliners and fighter jets, and NASA spacecraft just took its massive $800 million expansion and 2,000 jobs out of state. After 33 years in Seattle, they've said, bye-bye, we're going to Montana. Yeah, I'm surprised there's enough workforce in Montana to do that. But it goes to show that these smaller states, these states that are run by Republicans and, you know, you have a lower tax burden, less regulatory burden, that's where you're going to see, you know, you're going to see the economy grow. You're not going to see it in Seattle, Washington, Seattle. You're not going to see it in California. You're not going to see it in California. New York City or New York State, New Jersey, they're all done. I do. I think Michigan, I think it's a disaster. Illinois, I think they're all going to be the land of the damned here soon. Yeah, yeah. Good note for our business. This will make you happy. Yeah. AM FM Radio continues to be a frequent part of consumer media habits with new research from Katz Radio Group, finding that listeners maintain strong connections to their favorite stations and on-air personalities. despite all their growing competition from digital entertainment platform. Well, they still like us. Yeah. Well, look, I'm telling you, folks, we love you because our Nielsen numbers, our digital streaming numbers, grow. They're great. You know, you always caution me as a veteran in this field to not brag too much or say how well we're doing. But I got to tell you, I think this is an audience that is not only smart and formed, it is growing. It's a lot of fun. Yeah. Well, we have someone come up to us today and say they had a customer who came up to them said, I want to buy this from you because of what Rod and Greg said. And if Rod and Greg say it's okay, then I'm going to buy it. That's right. The connection and the power. I hope the political conversation goes the same way. I'm going to vote against those Democrats because I heard Rod and Greg condemn them. They're out of here. Nothing to salvage out of that crew. We're done with them. That's what I want to. They have said AM radio is going to die ever since television came on. We were AM offender. We're as strong as we're as ever. Yeah. And I think the talk side of it, even though, yeah, I think that talk side is going to do well. Continue to do well. All of it will do well. But I just think that you do bell relation. I did with Rush. Yeah. AI cannot repose. Rep.

Thank you. Nope. Don't think so. All right, that does it for us tonight. Head up, shoulders back. May God bless you and your family in this great country of ours. Go vote if you haven't polls close at 8.