Fred Harran Joins Us Today

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uh he's a straight shooter uh as all the other chiefs so i see some of the comments that are coming out now at which i of course you expect it you don't you don't think everybody's go okay that that's fine we agree of course these folks that are are against uh quaker town police and against what happened are you know you could show them whatever you want they're not going to believe it um and and as you had said the report's correct that They could have went a little further, and they didn't, the police officers. I think from what I saw, they used incredible restraint. And, you know, what people are seeing to forgetting the injuries to the police chief, you know, if he was not even a police, let's say, you know, they're saying, oh, we didn't see identification. It still doesn't justify the assault that happened to him with broken bones and a punctured lung and everything else. So, you know, take that police position out of the equation, which you shouldn't. But let's just say for giggles you want to take it out of the equation. It's still aggravated assault on a person, you know, for the damage that was done to him. And everybody seems to be forgetting that. You know, at the end of the day, these kids should have been in school learning and not been on the streets fighting. And if they want to protest, you know, do it peacefully on the sidewalk with signs or whatever you want to do. You want to have a megaphone. Whatever you want to do, knock yourself out. But when you become violent and you become destructive, that's when there's a problem. Fred, the delay now with the DA, you know, who I'm on the other side from, and you ran against his colleague. That was the race, is just out of bounds at this point. I mean, this independent report, he has the video. This is a major thing that should be decided by now. I don't know how many weeks even it's been. It's been a long time. I agree. And, you know, the DA does not do an investigation into police use of force and violating police practices. That's not the DA's job. The DA's job is determined whether or not criminal activity on the part of the actors or the part of, you know, the police occurred, which I certainly do not believe that's the case. I think, you know, the DA is in a tough spot here. You know, he's got, you know, his first major decision regarding law enforcement. that should be totally clear with no charges. And he's got his hard left base, which wants, you know, wants somebody's head on a stick. So he's, you know, he's hit a tough spot. But, you know, you run for a big boy seat. These are the decisions you have to make. So I certainly understand where, you know, the spot he's in, not don't really care, but that's the spot he's in. It's crystal clear to me, you know, what the outcome should be. Again, these kids, you know, if you commit simple assault on a police officer, it becomes aggravated assault. But take that out of the equation, like I said earlier, Dom, you know, the fact of the injuries is, you know, it's pretty much aggravated assault. And, you know, I don't know if these kids are being held responsible. See charges are being dropped and things of that nature, which shouldn't be. But, you know, that's not my call. But, you know, I think as far as police procedure. The group made some recommendations, which are good recommendations. But I think this thing unfolded pretty quickly. And, you know, we're just, this is not stuff that happens to us in the suburbs. The problem is that the cities are now encroaching on the suburbs. You know, as I said, I don't know if it was on your show. Who would have thought two kids from Bucks County would have went to New York City with bombs? You know, but this is what's happening. When you have lack of law and order, this is what you have.

And, you know, you're seeing this now in Bucks County. Bucks County was in danger of this happening. And this is when you get people that are soft on crime. This is what happens. Exactly. Now, Fred, to that point, too, a lot of your campaign, I mean, well, really, I don't know, this was about Trump and getting it Trump and I think across the board. But you were the face of in a limited way, I'll say it that way, using ICE to help. get more criminals off the streets and free things up and support that. I saw yesterday and I talked about it that the county, the group that gives the county insurance now says if you take part in that federal program, then there is a much increased added cost. And it appears to be just irrational, striking back. Another shot across the bow to say to sheriffs or whoever commissioners, nope. If you join up with ICE, we're going to penalize you. Yeah. You know, it's, it's, it's. Unbelievable what's going on out there. I mean, this guy, this president could, you know, cure cancer tomorrow and people would be screaming poor cancer. How could you do this to cancer? You know, how can you eradicate cancer? You know, that's so mean to do that. You know, this is for me. And I just had an interview yesterday with a major outlet. And I said to these folks, I said, listen, I stick by what I said months ago. I stick by today. To me, it was a way of getting one more criminal off the street. By no means did I or any other sheriff out there in Pennsylvania saying all criminals are here illegally. That's ridiculous. That's not the case. But if it's one victim in our case in Bucks County, I use that one case that 14-year-old girl got raped in Bucks County, and there's a lot more cases like that. That's not the only one that exists, that if I could prevent it that sexual assault. That's what we're supposed to be doing. And anybody that argues to the contrary, well, they're lunatics. And, you know, they should be shoved off on an island somewhere because that is the most stupidest thing in the world if someone is arguing. But, you know, the criminal that's here illegally deserves to be here illegally. Not if you're committing crime, you don't. Not if you're committing crime. That's a deal breaker. You know, you and I... Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. When I travel abroad, I obey the laws. I mean, I... I grew up to drive in New York City. So, you know, New York drivers are a little different than the rest of the world. But when I leave this country, you can bet I'm stopping at a yellow light. I mean, because you don't know the laws there. I don't know if that's an incarcerated offense or not. I'm sure it's not, but you obey the laws to the utmost. And these folks are coming here, and they're destroying our country, these criminals, the criminal illegal aliens. I've said that again, the criminal illegal aliens. So this thing with the insurance companies, this is just the left trying to do anything they can to stop the Washington agenda. And it's just insane. I just, I don't. And look what we got in Bucks County. We've got these two liberal commissioners, you know, that are going to be up in a year. And, you know, one's running for Congress now. I mean, this is a problem. But people got to wake up and see what's going on here.

Fred, parting area too. People should know before you were sure if you were in a different branch of law enforcement out there in places like Ben Salem. So this temple situation, surprising to me, they have a big police department. I'm a fan of what they do. But we had a kid chased into the main residence hall. I think it's 1,200 students or so. Nobody there and they wrecked the place and they, you know, hit the kid and attack the kid. It was three o'clock in the morning. Your sense of how difficult it must be to police temple. It's difficult to police anywhere anymore. And certainly there. Look what happened in New York with this sergeant that threw the cooler at this drug dealer that was fleeing a felony. I mean, that sergeant never meant to kill somebody. But he tried to stop him. He didn't know what this guy is a felon fleeing. And he's selling drugs. And he tried to stop him. No one meant for this guy they did he kill. But now, you know, cops, this is what the problem is. Cops have to worry about, you know, being so second-guessed. They have to be responsible for their actions. No one's saying that police do not have to be responsible for their actions. But I have, Dom, when I was in Guy Benson, we had an incident. And I reviewed the tape. With members of the NACP, by the way, the president in Bucks County, Karen Downer, I designed an open door policy. I didn't make any of these groups file right to no request. You want to come in and review tapes. You're a legitimate organization, which the NWACP is. Come on in. You can see everything. You don't have to get a lawyer. You don't have to do anything. We watched a tape, Dom, has to be a minimum of 20 times. And to this day, I'm still not sure what I saw. And neither were they. So how can I judge? The police officer doesn't have a rewind. It's not football. You don't have a, you know, playback. Right. They have a split second to make a decision. I watched the tape 20 times, and I wasn't exactly sure what I saw and heard. So people have to understand police are in a tough spot, making tough decisions to protect you. And there's got to be a little leeway. But you know what? You do this to cops and you start incarcerating them for an honest issue, you know, and he used that cooler to stop this guy. So, you know, it's going to be harder and harder to police. If we don't change and that pendulum does not swing back, it's going to be harder. And who's going to pay the public? Who's going to pay the price, the public? Our family's going to pay the price. Without a doubt. Now, Fred, where do we find you at this point? Where do we go?

Well, I'm hoping in another week or two I'll have some final results of my next journey. Okay. So right now I'm just, I'm doing consulting work from home working for a couple of companies right now. I'm very close to some new direction. Let me say that. I'm very close to a new direction and I should have an answer within a week or two. But I don't think I'll be a big surprise to anybody, and I'll leave it at that. All right. Well, let Henry know. We want to be in on that as soon as Fred Harris ready to go. Well, Fred, thank you. Thanks, as always. We'll catch up soon then. Thanks, Tom. Thank you, Fred. Before we do Money Melody, just one note, now I'll get to this, this firefighter who's endorsed to run against Brian McCabe. Ryan McKenzie in Lehigh Valley, who has done a really good job in a tough district. You know, it was a fierce fight the last time to win. We had a moment Mike Johnson recently. This firefighter Brooks is endorsed by Bernie Sanders and also Josh Shapiro. Josh Shapiro trying to make him an every man. He's blue coward. He fought fires. He did all this stuff. And on social media now, he's apologizing for being pro police. He talked about the police to the point we're just making as the good guys. Now, I'm going to get Ryan McKenzie back on because this, this is amazing. The guy they pick because he represents middle America, firefighter, all that. You've seen the ads. They're spending a lot. on social media now apologizing for being pro-gun and pro-police. Why would you have to apologize for being pro-police? I'll tell you some of the stuff he said in this. And if you watch local TV at all, in any way, I mean, we've been inundated or I don't know how much you're spending. It's a lot. It's enormous. And it's Josh Shapiro saying, The Democrat Party can pretend and masquerade that we're working class, we're middle America, we're reasonable. Well, then why is the guy that's the face? You've seen this now. And I'll invite him to come on. He might be brave enough, Henry. You can ask him. He might be the type of guy. We'll see if he'll come on. Why then say you didn't mean this about cops being the good guys? Why do that, then? You know exactly why. You can't say that in the Democrat Party. He's got to get his mind right. All right now, first, though, it is time for... It's Dom's Money Melody. All right, today we are playing for a copy of Scott Jennings book, A Revolution of Common Sense, how Donald Trump stormed Washington and fought for Western civilization. Yeah, Dom. So, side question today. We're asking for those all-time rivals. Right. No secret that the Rolling Stones...

And the Beatles back in the day were rivals, whether that was, you know, kind of made by the media to drum up more record sales or whether or not they really disliked each other. Who's to say? So I'm going to play you here a song by the Rolling Stones. Only it's going to be covered by a band that isn't necessarily rivals with anyone else, but is definitely rivaled within their band between the lead singer and the lead guitarist. Yeah, not exactly the best relationship between the two. Back in 89, they were playing at the Coliseum in L.A., and the lead singer went to the crowd, said, unless certain people in this band get their stuff together, except I didn't say stuff, this will be the last blank show you'll ever blanking C. Because I'm tired of too many people in this organization. Blanking. Okay. So, yeah, calling out his guitarist there for sure. Right. And then, you know, I'd say about 20 years later, this lead singer said of the guitarist again, personally, I consider blank a cancer and better removed or avoided. And the less anyone ever heard of him or his supporters, the better. And this is the lead singer saying about this about his own bandmate. So I'm going to play you with this band covering the Rolling Stones here. I want to know the name of this band that has a rivalry between lead singer and lead guitarist. Yeah, I want to know the name of this band, Dom. All right, an all-time classic to me. A decent job. That's a hard song to match the originator. Yeah, I agree. Very hard. 855-839-1210. Hit us with that. You get the Scott Jennings book, and you get the bell for today. 855-839-1210. Tom Giordano on Talk Radio 1210. WPHT. It's Doc. Money Melody. That is right. All right. Here's a little taste, and let's get your answer. Bandmates do not like each other here, Dom. Well, now they do, but there's a while. They really didn't. Let's go to Greg in Holland. Hey, Greg, afternoon. What's your answer? It's just a guess. Oasis. All right. Chef Dave, he's usually on a mark in Oakley. Chef Dave, hi. What's your answer? Gunson Roses. All right. Gunton Roses doesn't look so good. Dave, Dave, you're the winner. You get the belt. You get the book today. I saw that recently. Wow. Axel Rose. Yeah, Axelrose, the strong words for Slash. Yeah, yeah. And he made that cancer comment too right after Slash's mom had died with a battle of cancer. Oh, well, of course. There we go. Yes. Yeah, very, very, apparently they've been good since 2015, but yeah, some bad blood. Yeah, don't come back from that too easily. All right. So before I take more calls, I mentioned we're talking with Fred Herron. You got this guy Bob Brooks. Now you got to understand.

This is not just about defeating Ryan McKenzie and gaining that seat, which is big. This is hotly contested. You know, that's why he had Mike Johnson on with us. But this guy's a retired firefighter who's now running as a Democrat. He has apologized for old social media post. He posted a pro-gun meme featuring Quinn Eastwood. And for defending cops admit the Black Lives Matter protest and riots. I shared the apology with the Washington Post on Monday after the paper reported his social media post had irked local progressives. Of course, he was called out for branding Colin Kaepernick in a post as a beyond a malcontent. And he says, The part that gets me, he's running to replace, as I said, Ryan McKenzie in Allentown, Bethlehem, served as a firefighter for two decades. The Washington Post noted a local blogger criticized Brooks for his Eastwood meme last year, saying you should run as a Republican, libertarian, or anarchist for his pro-second amendment stance. You can't be a Democrat running in this and be pro-second the amendment. We all know that. The blog, Lehigh Ramblings, shared a screenshot of the Eastwood meme from 2019. Okay? Fox Digital also reported that Brooks backed cops in 2020. Shortly, here's the key thing after the George Floyd died. Quote, I guess we have forgotten the good ones wrote about law enforcement. Brooks did. Wanting change within police departments to weed out bad cops is fine. Well, please remember the good ones. Now, I don't know about you, but isn't this what they are? Who they are. The others stink inside. This is who they are. Now, we know they're anti-the-second amendment. All right, that's a gift. All right. And the Kaepernick stuff. Oh, my God. Push back on Kaepernick. But the fact that he wrote, I guess we have forgotten the good ones, to Fred Herron's point here, the cops. Wanting change within police departments to weed out the bad cops is fine. But please remember the good ones. All right. Now, that is where we are. He, um... They told Fox News that Democrats from every corner of the party are rallying behind him because, quote, he is a blue-cower American who appeals to working-class voters. Now, we'll try to get them on. You've seen the ads. If you're alive, you have a pulse, you watch TV at all. You've seen the ads. They're spending on this. They're determined they're going to bludgeon Ryan McKenzie in this district. They can taste it. And they're sending a message to Piro is all over hugging this guy. Working class. We're working class. We're reclaiming it. And this guy might deep down, I wouldn't vote for this given that he moves to this part. But deep down, you can tell he might have some feelings here that are appropriate. And I read that line again, I guess we have forgotten the good ones.

Talking about law enforcement, wanting change within police departments to weed out the bad cops is fine, but please remember the good ones. Why would you have to apologize? You know why you have to apologize for that. That's who they are. Starting with Josh Shapiro, Bernie Sanders, his backers, and every other one of these. Now, some Democrats, a few. might, off the record, think about endorsing that statement, but they wouldn't say it publicly A, and they would enable the others who you're not going to say that. You're going to rub that out. You can't say something as cotton candy as that, the good ones. And we know that. We know the numbers. We know what police do. Not to the National Democrat Party, not to the locals either. No matter how they pose, no matter how they dance around like Josh Shapiro, you can't say that. So this is their vision of the modern working class union guy. You got to be anti-cop, anti-second amendment, pro Colin Kaepernick, and he's a firefighter. You know, we got to profession, but then the things that I think still go with that, which are patriotism, support of the police, you can't do that. Now, you may have that in your past, wink, wink, but publicly, you better not be saying the good ones. So I don't care about the others. That's the one that I'd like to ask. Now, this guy seems to be a little bit step up to the plate. We'll see if he'd come on. And I'll ask about that again and again and again. Now remember Ryan McKenzie is right next door. We reach him, his congressional district. This is a battle royal. But it's bigger than that. It's Democrats electing this guy and saying we're back, baby, we're back. We are the party of the working class. We are the party of the unions, not Trump. So if I ask the building trades guys, the Johnny Doc guys, the Bureau right here, those guys, give me that statement about cops. Oh, yeah, this guy, I couldn't vote for that. He better renounce that. No, I don't think so. Love to get you in on that. 855, 839, 12, 10. Pastor Bill Deblen texted me, tagged in and said he wrote an article defending Mike Pence. on this whole thing. I remember the heat I took, and I thought I was straight down the middle of this. How are women supposed to advance? And all I got were people saying, well, it's just on your work. Really? That's the way that it works. Well, part of your work is networking, likeability, ability to do things for people they do for you, all the things that go into that. That's how people advance. That doesn't mean having sex with them. It just means interaction. I just find this whole thing fascinating. You've got the Pence side. Then you have women standing there as a guy drops his drawers and walks to the shower in front of them. There's got to be some kind of middle ground in between here.

You can imagine Frank Sinatra doing the photography for life or one of those publications. Yeah. Wow. At ringside. Yeah. When you have Sinatra. Yeah. That's pretty big. Who's doing it today? You got there doing that photo shoot. Frankie, get over here, Frank Sinatra. Okay. One other quick thing I mentioned is didn't want to leave. Then I'll take some more calls. This woman, Olivia Trusty. is on the FCC commissioners. We told you about Brendan Carr, the head commissioner, going after the NFL and going, whoa, we looked the other way with these guys. All right. At least be over broadcast. Let people have the lion's share of games for free. We even know we know there's, you know, all the stuff that goes into it. And now with every streaming thing in the world, so she in Vegas on Monday yesterday. opened up about this at a conference that they're really going to go after this. It's not just a one-off here. And I hope they do. I mean, what the NFL is doing is out of bounds. Now, we're going to see do people go, whoa, whoa, whoa, we love the NFL. Well, we love football. So. Don't mess with them. Are they going to say, you know what, this is ridiculous, what you have to do to watch X number of games, how many streaming services and Christmas, Thanksgiving, and all that stuff. It's going to be an interesting battle. I say it's the right way to go for Republicans. That and ticket master. Same thing. That's affordability. That's stuff that can be changed. We'll see. Robert and Ben Salem, Talk Radio 1210. Hey, Robert. Hey, Dom Henry, good to talk to you guys today. I sent you up against the clock, so I'll get right. I want your comment. What do you think of this in the workplace? Will women stuff, Robert? I think that in a nutshell, they just shouldn't have interviews with players that aren't at least semi-dressed. They should have an interview room between the public and the locker room, and that way everybody can go in there without having to worry about the discomfort of. Well, the interview with somebody with their junk out, you know? Yeah, the only thing is, though, that's when people, you know, if you give them a chance to calm down, you don't get any of the real emotion. That's the thing. Well, I would think if I was a player, I would just, I mean, I'll have my fire when I come out, but let me put my jock strap on, you know? I mean, you know, when some of these guys complained that were self-identified Christians, they kind of get mocked. Like, this is something you're supposed to deal with. Well, I know. It's just more blurring the lines, Domit, across the spectrum. And we're just going to have to fight back against that insanity. But my answer to the side question is a rivalry that started in antiquity has mutated and morphed and still goes on today. It started out with them two countries, Turkey and Greece. Okay, they were rivals for the eastern Mediterranean. They were, I mean, the Trojan War, right? And then after that, the Persians took over to Turks, invaded Greece, burned down Athens. Alexander de Grey comes along, conquers Persia, burns down their capital Persepolis. And then it doesn't end there. It keeps going with the Ottomans into the Middle Ages in Europe. Vladian Phaer. It took the Hungarian king and the...

the holy roman empire army to drive them out even back then and it still continues the last ottoman sultanate was not removed from europe until 1922 Even in the Korean War, they had to keep troops between the Greeks and the Turks to keep them from shooting at each other. And today it has morphed into, unfortunately, a religious thing with Europe and the Muslim Middle East. And it still goes on as far as that goes. We are there now with troops. And it boils down to Turkey and Greece led to the rivalry of East versus West. And I'll leave it there, guys. And I really appreciate the time and you have a great day, Doc. Thank you, Robert. That's a great one. Well, that guy's on my list, the dictator of Turkey. It's just, once again, they're strategically located. Remember all the way back with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and the missiles and the Soviet Union? They're right there where you want to be. So we've got to put up with a certain amount of nonsense. And I think the Greeks, oh, man, the Greek contingent is rising, hearing the Turks. Do we have any Turks out there? I remember, too, the guy I had on, I was on overnights, Henry, if you can imagine. And I had the guy on, they asked to come on to refute. It was coming up on September 17th, I would have said, anniversary, I think, of the massacre of the Armenians by the Turks, right? This guy and I, it was right out of the box. I mean, I just said, that's it. You're not in Turkey, buddy. And we were off to the races, even though he was to represent the ambassador. Well, diplomatically, I think that's a, I think he said some kind of misconduct. And I said, charge me with it. You're going to have to get Interpol to get me out of the studio. Yeah. the ambassador from Turkey or their representative in Philadelphia on this. And then the Armenians, of course, community said they would put a wall between us. Oh, absolutely. That's a good one by Robert. All right, we've got a lot of great ones coming up. It is the lightning round. Here's how you get in. 855-839-1210. Tom Chiodano on Talk Radio 1210. WPHD. The time has come for the final test. We usually call us the lightning round. All right, I didn't want to say these as we're doing it, but we're at the end before we get to the lightning round. I'm Gerdano's show. Here are a few Hamilton and Burr. Well, one guy gets assassinated at that duel gets shot to death. That's when you're into a duel, that's a pretty big rival. Yeah, if F.S. It's a little, yeah. It's on a topic. Yes. Pepsi versus Coke. I never got that because, come on now, how to Pepsi?

It might take pain off cars, but it's not matching Coke. Pepsi? So the way I always described that one is Pepsi always wins the sip test. Right. But Coke always wins the sip test. If you have a sip of Pepsi versus a sip of Coke, you know, Pepsi every time because Pepsi's sweeter. Right. But if you do a full glass test to people, they always gravitate towards Coke because it's just a better feel after an entire drink. I have to look at the statistics, but worldwide, Pepsi, there's no way. But that's the Pepsi hangs there. I don't know. We win the ship test every time. I know. But I'm saying sales, it's a trillion versus, you know, a half a million or something. Right. Yeah. And, of course, somebody could have said it and fleshed it out. Gravy versus sauce. All right. Not much of a rivalry of one's always winning. Yeah. We just heard, though, we just heard that from Robert. The Greeks and the Turks. Let's go to Zenos. Hey, Zinos. Good afternoon. Good afternoon, Dom, and Henry and everybody there, and Christos Anesti. I'm going to backtrack a little bit to what Robert said. He was right in the way, but he forgot to mention that the Turks are not indigenous to that part of Turkey. They came there. They came there from Central Asia. The indigenous people in Western Turkey were the Greeks and the eastern part where the Hittites. They came there. And the rivalry, he's right, there is a rivalry. But our rivalry as Greeks, as ancients, was between Persia. Yes, of course. And domestically, it was Athens and Sparta. But we are our common enemy were the foreigners that came in there and which were the Persians. That's the one. And I don't know if I have enough time, Dom, about the... I would not be very forgiven if my wife was holding hands in a hot tub with something. Get out. Whoa. It would have been done. I hear you, Zenos. Michael in Wilmington was waffling a little bit there, but I'm in the Zenos team on this one. Zinos, what's your side? My side was, you know, with the Persians, with my ancient ancestors as a foreigner, not as a domestic, was the Persians. rivalry with the Greeks, with all Greeks. Gotcha. Thank you, Zinos. Henry, quick question here, a little field test. If true, and Rabel didn't deny it, something going on there, whatever. Who do we feel? I'm trying to piece this out. Wild in my head. Sorry or for. The husband of the woman or the wife of the guy. Now, sentiment usually would go, the wife of the guy, she's wronged. But I kind of look at this as a guy and how public this is with an NFL head coach in the Super Bowl thing. And I feel for the guy.

I feel for whoever didn't hire the private investigator. Oh, okay. Look, where did these pictures come from? Someone was in the bushes somewhere because someone got tipped off that these two would be there. And I want pictures of them. Okay. Well, my answer is, right. Or Rossini's husband, maybe. I'm just speculating here. No, I think it's somebody there at the pool and all and saw all this stuff. We're at the hotel. And they contacted the New York Post. They were the ones that did. Well, they didn't even know who they were taking pictures of. They were just told to go take these pictures and then started shopping them around. Yeah, the New York Post got in there. Right, the New York Post bought the rights to the pictures. They shopped them around for us. All right. I'm on record for tomorrow if this is more, if she says whatever happens, that I feel more for the guy in this. I know that's weird, but that's the way I see it. No? Yeah, I tend to agree with you on that, especially because their marriage is a little more newer. Yeah. It's maybe it's a sexist thing. I don't know. Joe and Columbus, Joe, before we get your side, who do you feel more for the guy or the wife of Brable? The wife. It's got to be the wife. Oh, okay. I knew it was going to be a white. Come on, Joe. I would feel more for you in this. The guy wronged and so publicly with a guy as a head coach and all. Oh, man. Oh, Dom, I don't know. And Don, the sauce gravy thing was not a rivalry. That was a whitewash. Well, Roe is still smarting. On the domestic front, I have to pretend. You're right. We got killed. I was shocked how bad it was. And, Dom, one other little maybe possible factory, it was highly suspect that the first Frazier-Ali fight was thrown so they could create Frazier Ali two and three. And Frazier did not, they were friends, but Frazier did not, could not grasp Ali's marketing skills, and he took it personal. Wait a minute, when you're called ugly constantly, Joe, that might be a bit much, you know? True, but I've got to believe Ali explain that. You know, hey, we can make some money here. We can work his team. Yeah, I know. But Joe, I would tell you this, as good as Ali was, he's the greatest of all time, I think. I'd rather that than Joe Frazier getting inside and hitting me in the ribs. Oh, my God. Yeah, and I think he should break Ali's jaws. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You don't want that guy coming from a meatpacking plant hitting you up close. No, he was the blue collar after that duo. Yeah, Joe, what's your side? My side, answer, my side, I believe in addition to having its roots in blue legging, I believe it created a whole new, a whole racing circuit beginning on a beach between these two car companies, rival car companies, and that was Chevy and Ford. That is a great one. The Earl of Tacconi. Earl, what's yours today?

In the 1960s in Greenwich Village, the folk music scene started. There were two rising stars. One was Phil Oaks and one was Bob Dylan. Now, folk music started out as protest music, against the Vietnam War, against the government. In fact, Phil Oaks used to get all of his information and inspiration for his songs by reading articles in Newsweek. Well, Bob Dylan started moving toward more pop music and personal music. He played electric guitar at the Newport Music Festival. and they started drifting apart, and at one time, Oakes and Dillon were both traveling in a limo, and Bob Dylan played a new song that he did called Can You Please Craw Out Your Window? And he asked Oaks, oh, what do you think about it? And he said, I don't really think it's as good as your old stuff. And Bob Dylan opened up the car door and threw Oaks out of the limo on Fifth Avenue. And there's debate as to whether the limo was still moving or not at the time. And in the end, it turned out Dylan was right. You had to move to pop music because once the Vietnam War ended, Oaks career ended because there was nothing else to protest. Well, it might have been the hair, too, just saying. But throwing a guy out of a limo in a rivalry, that's a good start. Drew in Upper Darby. Drew, what's yours today? Hey, Dom, thanks a lot, man. About the locker room thing. Real fast, you know, I'm doing the Persian Gulf 4 in 1991, the first one. There was a woman in the New England Patriots locker room, and she was doing a report. And a very large New England Patriot football player walked right by her towards a shower with nothing on. And someone said, she just saw the real Patriot missile. Okay, I got to salvage my answer here because it's outside the box during the Civil War. The English were making ships for the South. And there was a ship called the Alabama. The Alabama was the Bismarck before the Bismarck. It would go around sinking innocent merchant ships. So the Union Navy had a ship called the Kyrsage. that had to hunt this Alabama ship down and it finally caught up to them. On the coast of French, France, the French Navy sanctioned this duel between the Kyrsage and the Alabama. And there was French citizens on the shore side watching this whole duel where the French Navy sanctioned it and the Kyrsage sunk the Alabama. Nice stop. Boy. Really dragging the Oaks and the music all the way to France. All right, Kirk. This was quite a field today. What did you like? I'm going to go with Michael Wilmington, from Wilmington. That was a good one. Snoose button. Good guy, too, and taking that abuse on me with the lunch thing and pants. Come on, Mike. Right. Henry, what do you say? Yeah, I second Michael and Wilmington. Okay. Alarm versus snooze button call. And Earl Ticone, Phil Oaks and Bob Dylan, I mean, doesn't get more heated than, yeah, getting thrown out of the call. Yeah, I got to go Michael Wilmington on the alarm and snooze button.

was brilliant stuff. Tomorrow we got several irons in the fire. You can always send me something. Follow me on Twitter at Dom Show 1210 at Dom Show 1210. That is the way to go. Thanks to Kirk and Henry. Thanks to the great calls today. Dawn Fantasia is just spectacular, the stuff that she does. That'll be up on podcast too. So join us again tomorrow every day, noon until three, the afternoon show. is next for three big hours. All this happening right here. Dom Jir Dano Show, Talk Radio 1210, WPHT. Dom Jiu-Dano, Weekdays, noon till 3, from Talk Radio 1210, WPHD.