Dr. Marc Siegel | 05-25-26
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something on our side. But if you get it, the death rate is somewhere between 30 and 50%. So that's why we're so worried about it. Anything different this time around? I mentioned it's a different strain, but anything different this time. I mean, did we learn some lessons here? And I guess my other question is this. You know, one of the worst things about the way the COVID crisis was handled in this country is that some of the institutions that people used to trust did not act in an exemplary fashion. Let's face it, the WHO, especially the World Health Organization. I'm worried, doctor, that whenever we hear about these things breaking out, it'll be like the boy that cried wolf. suddenly there will be a real emergency and the credibility was eroded during COVID. I mean, is that something that keeps you up at night too? No. Good. Because the thing with COVID was way more complicated than that. Honestly, I think that it became political, but not simply for the reason you say. Here's what my view on COVID is to bore you for 30 seconds. A, I don't think they took seriously where did this virus come from. I think that you had people in the lab in Wuhan playing with bad coronaviruses. The WHO, at least then, possibly now, had a lot of Chinese health officials involved with it, and it was in their interest to call it a regional problem while it was spreading around the world. We never have really answered where it came from. I don't focus on what Anthony Fauci was doing in that regard, because I know him, and I think. that he was trying to actually be helpful, but he also stepped outside his lane when he got into public health. He's more of an immunologist than a vaccine guy. And so the public distrust came from conflicting messages. And unfortunately, this is the part you may disagree with, Jake. I think the pushback to the messaging and the almost totalitarian flavor to it, you're going to go here and we're going to restrict you without the science to back it up. I think the reaction to that has almost been as bad as the problem because there's been no trust in public health. And we have people running the show now that were basically just against whatever it was that was shoved down our throat before. That doesn't make them right either. Let's look at MRNA vaccine technology, which has been taking, getting a bloody nose now for years. A very big, a very big bloody nose. A lot of people are blaming that technology on a lot of deaths from the COVID vaccine. And right after you talk about that, please talk about that. And I know you think that, John, and I adore you, but I also think that it saved many lives. And the reason I'm bringing up is... No, no, it saved 98% of life, but 2% died. I agree with that. Agree with that. You're a smart guy. This is why you're so successful. And while we're at it, let's say that we should get Chris Christie's to shut down Zohran Mamdani. That's for sure. Yes. And we should carry only organic fruit. A little bit more Bobka would also help. Jake, Jake, and I'm glad that John has, by the way, Jake is one of my dear friends for many, many, many years. And Stuart Barney loves you too.
Yeah, he loves me, really loves me. I come from the wrong tribe for him. But the reason that I'm bringing up MRNA, by the way, is specific, which is that there are MRNA vaccines that are becoming available for Ebola. That's it. That's the only reason. I'm not trying to relitigate that. I think you're right, Jake, that there's a lot of lying that went on, but it led to a reaction also that I'm – public health is about gaining public trust, and you don't gain that by forcing people to do things. And especially when you use – 1918 reasoning for something that's occurring 100 years later. That whole thing with the six-foot distancing and the lockdowns was based on an idea from 1918 when we had no technology. So. I don't want to see any of that happening now, but I don't see it. You know what's happening now is that the Democrats are using Ebola to try to claim that the administration can't handle an outbreak. That's pure bunk. First of all, the boots on the ground in the Democratic Republic of Congo and in Uganda are top notch. CDC has a big presence there. We have the epidemic intelligence service there. CDC is participating. You know, the real question is whether, the countries that have the broken down infrastructure because of war can handle this outbreak. But I don't want fear to control our response here. We had 28 times more cases in 2015. Dr. Mark Siegel, thank you so much for keeping us updated on all of that. I know also you've been on the air this morning talking about sepsis, that major story we haven't gotten to yet about the death of Kyle Bush. Just a quick reminder, I'm sure you'll back me up on this. If you have a major injury or malady, make sure that your medical professionals are looking for signs of sepsis, correct, doctor? Yeah, let me talk about that for a minute before you throw me out. I actually was the first to say that this was likely pneumonia. It's because he had a severe sinus infection that wasn't responding. I thought it was suspicious that a doctor came over there a few days ago and suddenly gave him a shot. I thought that was probably antibiotics. I want to point out that on a racetrack with all those fumes and the toxins, that that can drive infections, likely can drive infections deeper into the lungs. And the point you just made, Jake, is that it can turn from pneumonia to sepsis very quickly. Because what sepsis is is the immune system basically turning against you. It makes a lot of inflammation. And the body's not prepared for it. So your kidney shut down and you get acid in your blood and your lungs filled with fluid. And that's what looks like what happened to him. And it's a warning sign that it can happen to you in any age. And 30 to 40% of severe pneumonia untreated turns into sepsis. And people that are in racing cars and a lot of our sports heroes and a lot of our heroes in general.
Don't think of themselves as vulnerable in this way. So it's a big wake-up call for how quickly things can change. Luckily, Casamatidis has me on speed dial, and Peter also on speed dial. So nothing's happening to him. Thank you. Between Mark Siegel and Peter Mihalos, we have him. You know, he takes care of WABC listeners. Thank you so much, Dr. Siegel, and have a great rest of the day. Thank you. Thanks very much. And let's take a break, and we're going to come back with Bruce Mosler, Cushman in Wakefield, he's chairman of global brokerage, and he's going to give us some pulse of what's going on in the commercial real estate market. Thanks for listening to Sit and Friends in the Morning. You can hear Sid and Friends in the Morning, weekday mornings at 6. If you like the podcast, share it with your friends, and listen anytime at wabcradio.com and download the Wabc Radio app. Hit that subscribe button on all major podcast platforms. Plus, follow WABC on social, on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and X. See you next time for a new episode, so you never have to wonder. What the... heck is going on here. Hey, it's Ryan Sechrest here. And if you're looking for some serious fun, head over to chumbacasino.com. At Chumba Casino, you can play all your favorite social casino style games for free anytime, anywhere. It's the most fun you can have on your phone or computer. No purchase necessary. VGW. We're prohibited by loss. See terms and conditions. 21 plus.