Hour 2: Winners and losers in the Iran peace deal
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59 segmentsIt's going to be hot today, man. I mean miserably hot, heat into seas could be in a triple digits and tomorrow and through the weekend as well, so stay hydrated. But thankfully, the severe weather for the most part is gone, although we could have some thunderstorms that pop up and, you know, how those can get pretty blusterous when it happens. Lindsay Cohn joins us now visiting Associate at Columbia School of International and Public Affairs. Good morning, Lindsay. Good morning, Tommy. Let's talk about this agreement, the details of which have been released with Iran 14 points, and I guess it was signed, right? Yes, it has been signed, but now the negotiations have been delayed. So what does that mean exactly? What that means is that all of the things that were in the agreement that stated, these things will be worked out as part of further negotiations are not being worked out yet. So anything having to do with the nuclear program, the scheduled for suspending sanctions, how the Strait of Hormuz is going to be regulated in the future, all of the things still need to be negotiated. And the Iranians canceled the talks in Geneva. So they got 14 points. We could go through them point by point, but I think it might be maybe a little more understandable as we go through them to explain where we were before and where we are now, or if these things go through, what's different, what changed? Sure. So the, yeah, so the old deal, the JCPOA, the one that was signed in 2015, was narrowly focused on the Iranian nuclear program. So not ballistic missiles, for example, but the nuclear program. And it basically offered Iran sanctions relief, right? The sanctions had been put on Iran because we believed they were pursuing a nuclear program, which we said they weren't allowed to do. And so we put sanctions on to get them to stop. So if they agreed to stop, which the agreement was, we would lift those sanctions. And they would then not enrich any more uranium. highly enriched uranium that they had would be removed from the country. The Russians offered to take it and offered to supply them with enriched uranium for their nuclear power, and they agreed not to pursue a nuclear weapon. That agreement, we... The United States withdrew from that agreement in 2017 or 18. Where were we before the United States withdrew in 2017 or 18? Where were the Iranians? Where were we? What was going on with enrichment? Because they do have uranium enriched to what? 60%. That was the narrow focus of it. Tell me where we were then when the agreement, when the U.S. withdrew.
Yes, so even the Trump administration's own intelligence agencies assessed that Iran was in fact abiding by the deal. The European intelligence agencies assessed that Iran was abiding by the deal, that they were not enriching any more uranium. The enrichment began again after the U.S. withdrew from the deal. Okay. And that's a fact. That's not to be equivocated. I mean, that's according to the U.S.'s own intelligence. assessment. Okay. And a number of U.S. allies assessments. So obviously, I don't know whether it's a fact, but that's the best that we know. Right, exactly. So between 2017 and 2026, what happens? So between 2017 and 2018, or 2018, the Iranians, it became very confusing because The Europeans, who were also part of the JCPOA, the JCPOA, was not just between the U.S. and Iran. It was between a number of countries and Iran. And the Europeans wanted to continue abiding by the deal because they assessed Iran was abiding by the deal. But the U.S. had placed sanctions on anyone who did business with Iran, called secondary sanctions. So the Europeans were under pressure as well. The Iranians felt that they had been essentially... trade and they started enriching uranium again. And so that's what got us to the point. Even though they still had to deal with the Europeans, right? Right, but they weren't getting sanctions released that they had been promised because the Europeans were struggling to get around the American secondary sanctions. Sanctions from the Europeans or from the United States? Sanctions from the United States. So secondary sanctions are when you say, not only am I not going to do business with Iran, but I'm going to punish anyone else who does business with Iran. So I guess what I'm trying to figure out, Lindsay, is did the Europeans, is this really about the Europeans at all? Is this strictly between the United States and the Iranians? At this point, this is between the United States and the Iranians. So that's one of the big differences with this deal. This deal is a purely bilateral deal between the U.S. and Iran. It also looks at the nuclear program, but of course, the big thing with this deal was getting the straight reopened. This deal, like the old one, does not address the ballistic missile program. But... Wait, wait, hang on a second. Let me slow you down a little bit. So we're getting a straight reopened. Yes. And this does not address the ballistic program, which the JCPOA did not address either, right? Correct. Correct. All right. And as far as the straight reopening, the straight wasn't closed until the war started, correct? Correct. Okay. Yeah. Keep going. I'm trying to stay up with you, Lindsay. I'm just trying to keep it. Quid for quid, pro for parole. You know you understand this stuff as well as I do. Well, I'm just trying to make it clear for the audience. That's all. Absolutely. Yes. So one of the big differences between this agreement and the old one is that this agreement indicates that the U.S. will lift all sanctions, not just the ones related to the nuclear program. So the U.S. also had sanctions on Iran for other things.
such as human rights violations and support for militant proxies in the area. The initial draft language, and again, this is one of the things that will probably, is supposed to be worked out in these follow-on negotiations, but the initial draft language says that we will remove all sanctions. That was not part of the original JCPOA. So advantage Iran on that one, right? Yes. Okay. The other big difference is that the U.S. appears to have agreed, again, probably going to be worked out and follow on negotiations, but appears to have agreed that Iran does not have to send its highly enriched uranium out of the country, that it can be downblended within the country under IAEA inspections. That's the International Atomic Energy Agency inspections. So that is also sort of less rigorous. than the original deal. But that would seem to be a draw if the, who is it, the IA? The IAEA, yes, it's rather a mouthful. So if they verify that and it is down blended, then it seems like that's a draw? Yes, although again, this is something that, you know, the IAEA were the ones doing the inspections before, and the U.S. simply did not believe them. Okay, so the IAEA was inspecting the JCPOA and the Trump intelligence people were saying that Iran was in compliance, but the president didn't believe that, so he tore up the agreement. Now we're back to the same agency that said under the Trump... intelligence agencies that the Iranians were complying, now the same organization is going to see that they down, what did you say, shrink down? Down blend. Down blend. Yeah, so enrichment means to purify. So if you want to de-enrich something, you down-blend it. You blend it, you blend it with other materials so it's no longer pure and no longer able to be used. So we said back then we didn't trust the IAEA to do this. Now we're saying we do trust them not only to make sure that Iran doesn't develop it, but to de-enrich what they've already enriched. Yeah. Okay, let me take a break. We'll pick it up. We come back. 722 talking to Lindsey Cohn. I want to try to find out about this $300 billion, because I don't know who gave who, what, and is there another $300 billion that we're talking about here. We talk about money with President Obama and pallets of cash and what the difference is with sanctions. I don't know what the truth is. I'm trying to figure it out. Lindsay Cohn, our guest, visiting Associate Columbia's School of International Public Affairs. Fun facts. You went to Ben Franklin High School here in the city. 723 now. traffic, WWL. 728.5. Quickly back to Lindsey Cohn. Bill Cassidy, U.S. Senator, saying that Iran's nuclear ambitions were not curbed. They've learned that threatening the Strait of Hormuz works and will undoubtedly leverage it in the future. Now, Iran gets to build brand new infrastructure under this deal. Let's talk about this.
Sanctions and money, $300 billion to rebuild Iran. Where's that coming from? And how does this compare and contrast to what President Obama did with Iran back in the day with these pallets of cash? So the pallets of cash was actually not related to the JCPOA. That was a settlement for an arms deal that had happened before the revolution, before the Iranian revolution. And so that was money that technically the United States. was hold Iran's money that the United States was holding and we we just happened to reach an agreement on that issue the same time that we signed the JCPOA. So the two were not actually related. Okay. We did in fact send a couple of pallets of cash, but that's because we were not allowed to do why it transfers with Iran under our own sanctions. But it was their money that we sent them. It was their money, yes. They had paid us money for arms transfers, which we had then not sent them because of the revolution. And we only have a minute left. Is this $300 billion we're talking about here their money as well? No, the $300 billion is not yet. The $300 billion is a notional thing that President Trump has agreed with the Iranians to set up, but it sounds like it's mostly supposed to be private investment. It's not supposed to be a payment from the United States. That's as far as we know. It's one of the most vague aspects of the agreement. And is that to rebuild what we destroyed with the war? In theory, yes. That's what the Iranians want. Hope you come back. Lindsay, thank you. All right. Have a good weekend. Lindsay Cohn, visiting Associate at Columbia School of International and Public Affairs. We'll talk to Jeff Palermo about LSU, and we come back right now. Time for WWL First News. For that, we go to E&OZAN. I'd 738. Still taking your text at 504-260-1870 as we had in the Father's Day about, and we get some good ones. I'll read some more later on about what your dad, memories of your dad or what your dad used to tell you. Right now, Raymond Gedry joins us, Director of Emergency Management for Jefferson Parish. Give us an update after the storms yesterday. How you doing? Raymond? Good morning, Tommy. How's it going? I'm okay. Do you remember anything your dad used to tell you? Any advice he gave you a fond memory of your dad? So it's pretty funny. My dad retired with 30 plus years in emergency management. So over the last couple days, we've had some pretty good conversations and reminiscing about some storms of the past. I can imagine. Tell me about Jefferson Parish. What did you find after the storm and what do we know now that we didn't know yesterday? So, as far as operational go, we returned back to normal yesterday at 430, normal operations and mercy management. We demobilized any of the assets we had staged.
We had six families displaced. Current power outage sits at about 219 from the last reports from energy. Look, our drainage infrastructure did what exactly what we were supposed to do yesterday. We got a little hairy or post-storm. We knew the water started rising a little bit, but then everything settled, and we got extremely lucky on that storm yesterday. Tell me about houses that are flooded. Do you have any kind of number on that, or were there a lot? So the official number that came in us yesterday was five to eight. It was off from municipalities. They did some preliminary research on that, and the numbers are extremely low. I'm saying somewhere around five. We haven't confirmed, but if you did take in water yesterday, please reach out to the EOC, 504-349-5-360, or you can self- declare at damage.la.org. We need to get those numbers in. So if you had any kind of impact, please reach out to those. Damage.L.a.gov. Give me that number again, Raymond, please. 504-349-5360. That's if you had any damage. You know, you got any word on flooded cars, how many, or not? So, yeah, it was just like yesterday, you know, our worry would stay off the streets if need be. And, you know, of course, it happens every storm. People get out. They have things to do. They want to see what's going on, whatever it is. And, yeah, we had some cars inundated on West Esplanade, and it started causing more of a problem than the flooding was. But it's all taken care of and clear now. What about tornadoes? So we did have the National Weather Service came out and surveyed yesterday afternoon. They gave us a report of two EF-1 tornadoes, one in Avondale, one in the Metry area. The Metery one was the one near Metery Country Club, or not? Yes, sir. That's the same one. So that was not Flatline wins. That was a tornado. Yeah, the last report we got from National Weather Service, they said EF one. All right. Anything else we need to know, Raymond? No, just that, you know, as lucky as we got, we still have some of our folks that woke up to some pretty bad days today. So we're using our resources to take care of them, and we're now reaching out to our surrounded parishes to make sure we're doing everything we can do to help them. Anybody injured, Raymond, do you know? So we had two people taking to the hospital from the Avondale incident, and they were both returned back to the scene before the fire department was even clear. Cool. Thank you, sir. I appreciate it. Could have been worse. And everything with the pumps and everything else worked like it was supposed to work, correct? Yeah, our public works and our drainage department, they were rock stars yesterday. They did a great job. Thank you, Raymond. I appreciate your time, as always. Yes, sir. Take it easy. You two, happy Father's Day. Raymond Gedry, Director of Emergency Management for Jefferson Parish. We'll talk to Jeff Palermo when we come back about LSU baseball here on WWL. 747, 13 till 8, Tommy Tucker Carlson, WWL, talking to Jeff Palermo, WWL.com, Susan Collins, Louisiana Network News Director, about LSU. How you done, Jeff? Hey, I am doing well, Tommy. How about yourself? I'm okay. Are you a dad or not?
No, I am not a dad. I was going to tell you, Happy Father's Day. Do you remember anything your dad told you? Any funny stories about him? Any advice he gave you? The maddest you ever got him? The maddest that I ever got? Yeah. Oh, the mad. I remember when I was a little kid, they had, like, for whatever reason, they had change sitting out on the counter, and I took some of it. And, oh, man, he eventually, you know, first, of course, I denied it, and then... I eventually spilled the beans, and yeah, that was a good weapon. But, you know, I can remember mine, as you say that, we got an order from Frostop, and I thought they had slighted me, and my order wasn't there, and I slammed a football. I had to be like seven years old, maybe, and spilled everything all over. And, man, my dad was known to have a short temper, but instead of... blowing up. He just took me outside and said, but what's going on here? What's wrong? And I remember that for the rest of my life. I hadn't thought about that until you said that just now. So thank you for making me remember that. Let's talk about LSU's football recruiting class. What's going on? Well, it's, it's, um, Lane Kippen, as they say, in the recruiting industry has been on a bit of a heater, if you would. I mean, he's done very well here lately as far as racking up some guys, especially at the running back position. You know, it started with Trey Segarra earlier this week out of South Carolina. He's a four-star commitment. ESPN has them as one of their top 150 players. So this is a legit player that they got. And then the next day... Trey Martin, Trey Martin from Franklin Parish. ended up committing to LSU. And that was a big, as I wrote on for my piece at www.com. I mean, that was a big SEC recruiting battle because you had Florida and you had Alabama. And then, you know, when Lane Kiffin was at Ole Miss, he had Ole Miss involved with him. But he's a fantastic player. He's going to be obviously back for his senior season. And then on top of that, LSU got another edge rusher as well. So they're up to now 13 commitments. That edge rusher was Chris Whitehead, who is a four-star commitment. Ohio State, South Carolina, Virginia Tech were some of the guys that were after him. And the list or the number of recruits is expected to probably increase again next week because You have another big recruiting weekend. So, yeah, it's popping right now. And this is kind of the time. This is a big recruiting month because this is when a lot of these high school players.
take their official visits and want to make their decision before their senior season of high school football begins. They want to get that decision out of their way, concentrate on their final season in high school, and then obviously if they're advanced enough and able to potentially even graduate in December so that then they can be on campus in January. So this is always a month that's pretty big when it comes to recruiting. How official is that commitment, Jeff? Well, it's not 100%. That's for sure. I mean, you see guys flip all the time. You know, LSU, for instance, is really trying to put the full court press here on one of the state's top players in Easton Royal out of Brother Martin. He's been a Texas commitment, but he's been visiting other places, and LSU has really been putting a push on him. And they feel like, especially with. You know, he made his commitment before Lane Kiffin was named the head coach, or it was right about the same time, before Kiffin was named the head coach at LSU. And since then, I mean, Kiffin's staff has really been diligent in trying to get him to come to LSU. You know, Jalen Brewster, who's considered the top overall prospect in the class of 2027, a defensive lineman. He's been committed to Texas Tech. unless he's trying to flip him. So, yeah, it's not 100%. But I would say the percentage is 85% once these guys commit. And, you know, unless somebody really comes in at the last minute and provides an offer, especially financially, that these kids can't. can't refuse, then, yeah, then maybe you have some last-minute switching, especially once you get closer to signing day in December. Let me take a quick break. We'll talk some more when we come back with Jeff Palermo, www.com, columnist, Louisiana Network News Director, Eastern Royal, of course, the wide receiver, right, from Brother Martin? Yeah, exactly. All right, 752 traffic, WWL. 758 Tommy Tucker Carlson, WWL on his Friday before Father's Day, Texas at 504-2601-870 with a memory of your dad, something he used to say, something you used to do, maybe the maddest you ever got him, or sometime you made him laugh or he made you laugh. We'd like to share them because we've been sharing them all morning long and we'll continue to do that. Jeff Palermo, our guest, www.com, Louisiana Network News Director. Jeff, when it comes to the finances and the commitments now, can they talk to? recruits about here's what we might have for you as far as NIL money or what? Yeah, they can. You know, that wasn't exactly how NIL was designed though, but that's what it's morphed into, unfortunately, a pay-for-play.
system. Now, you know, with the transfer portal nowadays, Tommy, I honestly feel, and I think coaches are kind of catching up to it as well in the sense that, you know, when you get a guy out of the transfer portal, that's a guy that you intend to play right away. And so for a lot of these high school recruits, unless they really think they can make an impact, especially early on as a freshman. they're not going to see the big-time financial deals. So, you know, a guy like Easton Royal from Brother Martin, who's going to be visiting Texas this weekend after visiting Florida last weekend, and he's also very interested in LSU still, you know, he's someone that's going to get a lot of money, that's for sure, because he's someone that can play right away. Thank you, Jeff. Appreciate your time, as always. Have a great weekend. Jeff Palermo, you can find his stuff at www.com. We come back. We'll talk about the importance of keeping your ducks clean. Also, tell me your Father's Day stories at 504-260-1870.