Hour 4 of NMN, Congressman Matt Van Epps + Brian Wilson

And welcome on into a Friday. I'm heading off to Florida after this hour for a vacation, one week vacation. Brian Wilson will be filling in for me. And, you know, Joan, I've had a lot of guests this week. And I have another one for the next 30 minutes. Congressman Matt Van Epps is doing. Congressman, how are you? I'm doing great. Great to be in studio with you. Excited about it. Well-earned vacation coming up for you. Oh, boy, you know it. Okay, so this is great. Joan, I don't know if you have the camera in front of you. But Congressman Van Epps has brought me dirt. from the Washington Nationals baseball stadium. Oh, I love it. That's such a perfect gift. So for people that don't know, I don't even know if you know this, Sam, but for people that don't know, I, for many, many, many, many years, almost my entire childhood and adult life, I spent time sneaking on to Major League Baseball fields and stealing infield dirt or warning track dirt. And... So thank you very much. This is very much appreciated. Oh, absolutely. Honor to do it. We talked about it probably a couple of months ago. Yeah. And honored to do it. A big, big win in the congressional baseball game for the GOP. So you guys won like 11 to 2. 11 to 2. Okay. So can I just ask this question? Sam, can you look this up? When was the last time the Democrats actually won? This was the six straight year. Six straight year. Six straight years. Six straight years. Okay. Six straight one big. So, you know, a little bit of pressure. This is America 250. And so I think that I think that dirt means even more. So we win America 250. It's also the first time that in a while that Republicans and Democrats had matching uniforms. And so deliberately for America 250, ours were red, theirs were blue. And so that was important. But this game, this congressional baseball game has been played for over 100 years. It's for charity. So in the Nats ballpark. There were 32,000 tickets sold, which is more than the average for a Nats game. Yep. Which was great. The energy was amazing. And it raised over $3.2 million for local charities in D.C. that also set a record. That's very cool. Yeah. Who's the guy that pitches? Greg Stuby. Greg Stuby out of Florida. So is he throwing, this is like way to inside baseball. Is he throwing knuckle balls? What is he throwing? He's got a good fastball and a good curve ball. And he mixes in a couple of other. He's got a slider, a little bit of a change up. Because he pitches like every year. He does. He does a complete game this year. So we play seven innings. Instead of nine, we play seven, a little time constraints. It's on TV. But I, so in. We were talking a little bit about this before, but I wake up at 4.30 a.m. when I'm in D.C. for practices. We get through. We practice for an hour, hour and a half in the mornings. And I ride to practice with Greg and then Morgan LaTrell out of Texas. And so we get a go together. And so that's the starting pitcher and the starting catcher. So I've got to know them in this process. And it's been a lot of fun. So.

How much did you play? So here's, so all of the starters from 2025 played. I grew up playing baseball. Started at four years old, played through high school, tried to walk on at West Point, but wasn't successful. But love the game. That was my sport growing up. And so I ended up that the rules are a little different than normal baseball for this game. You can have pinch runners at any time. So that substitution that would normally happen doesn't happen. So you can put in some guys are hurt and they want to make sure that everybody can, that's hurt, isn't hurting themselves on the base path. Right. So I came in to pinch run three times. Okay. And scored on the first two of those. So I think, I have to look back, but I think I scored the third run and the fifth run. Okay. So you scored twice. Okay. Now, and I regret. that I don't have a way to, your team sent me one of your slides. Oh, yeah. Going in, did you go in high and hard? You went a little, for folks who don't know in baseball, if you want to break up a double play, cleats up, and you try to take out the second baseman. So that's exactly what I did, Dan. So this is, you know, I hadn't slid in 20 years. So this is all just kind of muscle memory and coming back. Right. Didn't practice sliding and practice. Sure. And so that ball got hit to the shortstop. I was on first. And, you know, ground ball lesson to, I mean, I'm running hard. Yeah. And so that was my mindset is that that ball is going to come to second. So I'm going to try to break up the double play here. And they mishandled it. And so I slid into second, immediately popped up, knew the ball went into center field. And then took off the third, was watching the third base coach for the signal. And as I get to third, I'm given the stop and then the go. And so I slowed as I'm rounding. And he said, no, go, go. So then I went as fast as I could. And so I'm watching the catcher of his positioning and see where the ball's coming. If I need to slide into home plate. And I didn't need to. And I just ran through. And so that was the first run that I scored was after that play. And I was pretty hyped up. I mean, I'm pretty fired up. I'm going over and like high-fiving the entire team. And we've got the players. But we also have folks that are on the field from the GOP that weren't at practice and just, you know, around, want to be on the field for it and around, which is great. Who else from the Tennessee contingent played? So, yeah, so Tim Burchett and Chuck Fleischman. And they both were in the game. They both had at bats. Those guys do not miss a practice. They are in every single morning. And they're good baseball players. I would love the camaraderie and being on the field with them. You know, that second, the second run that I scored, I was. So I was on first, and there was a base hit, and there was no outs. And so, you know, you never make the first out, the first or third out at third base. And so as I'm turning second, I'm like, all right, I'm probably could have made it, but I'm like, nope, first, you never make the first third out of third base. Yep. So I paused there. And then the next hitter hit a line drive to right field. And I was off. I just knew it was a base hit. So, I mean, I was off fast. And so I was, I got the go from from third. And. I thought there was going to be a play at the plate on that one, but the ball came in, but there was no play at the plate. And so I was a stand-up on that as well. So if you continue on in Congress, will they eventually let you bat? I hope so. Yeah. That's a plan. I've told the team I intend to try to start next year. So Morgan the catcher out of Texas, he's leaving. I've never caught before.

But that is a possible entry point. Isn't there a Texas Ranger, former Texas Ranger that is running? Who is it? Yeah, Mark Tashara. Mark Tashara is running as a Republican, right? He's running as a Republican. I actually met him. I met him this week, actually. He was up on the hill, and I met him nicest guy. This is a guy that has over 400 career home runs in MLB. Yeah. I mean, he is a... a really good baseball player. The United States Soccer Federation presents the U.S. Soccer Podcast. I'm your host, Megan Klingerberg. One thing I promised you is an all-access pass that you wouldn't get on any other show. And we found out that whoever comes on scores a goal. Burholfe, Freeman, trustee. U.S. soccer podcast magic is real people. We still got plenty of coverage all throughout this World Cup. Okay, let's get into it. The U.S. Soccer podcast presented by... Henko. Follow and listen on your favorite platform. He was on the field as well for the, for our game on the GOP side. And he'll, the first baseman this year, the starting first baseman's leaving. So I think Mark will come in, probably play first base. And that's probably a guaranteed home runner walk every every plate appearance. Okay. So, so, so did Steve Cohen play? I don't think he did. Out of Memphis? I don't think so. Okay. I didn't see him out there. He was probably out selling chicken. Anyway, so, and if you don't know what that means, I'll tell you later. All right, so there is actually a lot of news going on. So President Trump is saying that there is a deal with Iran. They're talking about how it's, you know, going to be signed. I know in the next couple of days, what do you know and what do you think? Yeah. So I haven't seen any details on that deal. I've seen that to open source, just that that's where it's at. I think the bottom line here, too, is that Iran cannot get a nuclear weapon. No nuclear weapons, no funding for terrorist organizations. They cannot control the Strait of Hormuz. And we're in a really good negotiating position. That blockade is causing $500 million a day in oil revenue. Our forces are positioned across the region. As we saw this week two with the Apache that they got shot down and fortunately those pilots were okay. I was an Apache pilot to start in the Army. And we responded to that. And our forces are in position to have the right kinetic response when those things happen. And we're also working with our regional partners in this as well. I got to be, this was probably about a month ago. I was at a dinner. It was kind of a small dinner, but it was with the UAE ambassador. It was with Ambassador Mike Huckabee. And then several members who are kind of defense national security minded. And I left that dinner. really reassured that the Emirates at UAE is working really well with us, with the regional partners with Israel, to be a part of this coalition, putting pressure on Iran to ensure they don't get a nuclear weapon to ensure that these other things that we need to happen are met. The biggest concern that a lot of folks have, of course, is, and you and I spoke about this months ago, where, and Congressman Matt Van Hepp is joining us,

Where you just can't trust Iran. I mean, so to me, the thing that I always harp on, people start rolling their eyes at this point, the grandpa is talking about this again, but transparency and access. And that is something that we really need. I totally agree. Is there, do you think that there is any way to really confirm that Iran does not have any enriched uranium and that they're not trying to manufacture nuclear weapon, regardless as to what they say? How do we confirm it? other than just clearly access? Yeah, I think access is really important. You know, I think our intelligence community and our abilities, the technologies that we have, the resources, the personnel is a very robust system that is in place that I think is a part of that equation and will enable us to... see things and ensure that that's being met. But I agree. It's got to be, we should have transparency and access. And, I mean, that's the bottom line, no nuclear weapons in Iran. So you used to fly Apache helicopters. Yeah. You heard what happened to those guys, right? Yeah. So you've got, I don't know how, I guess they're sitting side by side. And that, I guess it was a drone or whatever it was, just. somehow ends up in the middle of them? And then they have to fly the helicopter down into the water and escape. And then they're, I guess, rescued by a drone boat or whatever. Yeah. So this is, that's my, I'm not seeing the official after-action review yet. Yeah. Yeah. But that's my understanding of this as well. And there are procedures in the Apache for ditching the helicopter. So if you're overwater, the procedures that you want to go through to ensure that both pilots can exit safely away from the helicopter. And it seems like that happened. And so these pilots were able to get out, tandem seat helicopters, one in front, one and back. And so they were able to get out. And I understand they were in the water for a while. Now, when you're over water, you fly with a flotation device with a what's called a Heads bottle, some limited supply of oxygen in case you have to exit a helicopter underwater. And this is the first time in history that in unmanned boat where it was able to extract. both of these pilots, which is really significant. I mean, this is the first time that this capability has been executed. That's huge. Huge. Huge. And they're both safely picked up by that vehicle. And so I'm very glad and fortunate for them, their families at that. I don't understand. I don't want to harp on this. But I don't understand how Iran can say that it was inadvertent, that they hit that. helicopter. I don't really understand it. And I don't want to get bogged down on that because you have done something great for the Gold Star families. And so let's talk a little bit about that because I think everybody listening, we're all patriots, at least most of us are patriots. And so talk about what you are doing to ensure that Gold Star families get taken care of. Thanks, Dan. So we've had a really great update here in the last two weeks on this. So the very first bill that I introduced was called the Honor Gold Star Families Act. I made a campaign promise that that would be the first thing we do for veterans for Gold Star families. And so that bill...

increases the death gratuity. That's the amount that gets paid immediately to a family after service members killed from the current amount of $100,000 to $200,000 and then provides a cost of living adjustment for that. There has not been a cost of living adjustment. The last time that it was increased was 2006. So it's been 20 years without an increase. Okay. So it hasn't kept pace with inflation. It should be at about $165,000. So our proposal was increased a little bit beyond that. And there are... Our bill also makes it retroactive to January 1st to cover those soldiers that have been killed in Operation Epic Fury. And so just a week ago, we were very happy to hear that that bill, that language, has been included as an amendment in the National Defense Authorization Act. So that's a really big deal. So it got voted in there. Slight adjustment from our standalone bill. It actually makes it at $165,000. So it... ties that to the inflation amount today and provides the cost of living adjustment. But I'm 21 co-sponsors on our bill, supported by the Gold Star Wives, Gold Star Mothers, National Guard Association of the U.S., several other organizations. Very proud of the team in our efforts to do that. And it looks like this is going to move forward through the NDAA, and that's a big win. Are you, you've been in Congress for how many? Six months now. Six months. Okay. So. Number one, are you realizing there's a lot of BS that happens? That's number one. But number two, with the passage of the Gold Star Families Bill, you're also realizing that... despite the fact that there's a lot of BS, you can actually do a lot of good. Absolutely. You know, I think you can see here in short order that you can get, you can get cynical, you know, and that's not our approach. That's not what I do. We're glass half full where you're pushing forward. Our constituents, our district is too important for us to other to be just positive and focused and mission, mission oriented. And so we've seen, you're right, we've seen like this when we put together. a really strong team, and we get buy-in. We did a lot of work ahead and behind the scenes to get all of this in order for this Gold Star Families bill, and we're seeing success with it. And I'm just so proud of the team. It's the right thing to do for our Gold Star families. So I saw this on X, and I want to ask you about it. Sure. The critical. Aerospace Defense Act. So it sounds pretty important, but what is it? Yeah. So we just this week, we've introduced a bill. Senator Tom Cotton is leading the bill on the Senate side. We're leading it in the House. And so this bill is going to enable private sector operators of critical infrastructure locations to provide counter-UAS, counter-dron detection, identification. threat response or the ability to eliminate those drones. And so what we know is that the drone capabilities and technology is moving very fast. Our law enforcement, both federal, state and local, is doing good work, but that threat is significant. Just a week ago, we had Secretary Mullen in from Homeland Security into the Homeland Security Committee. He said his...

biggest concern is UAS, is this drone threat. Yeah. And so we wanted to respond to that and think outside the box and how could we do that? And so this bill provides the training. federally approved counter-UAS technology so that places like hospitals and power plants and dams, things that we rely and that the American people rely on, that we have an added layer of protection that is there will be trained operators. It's the right technology. And that the counter-UAS counter-drone technology keeps pace with the threat and that we're going to have to keep adapting that. And so we'll have to keep retraining and having new technology. So that's what this bill does. It is really important to the defense of the homeland. Congressman Matt Van Nepps joins us. Is there been a surprise at how good Iran's drone system has been? Well, I think they're mass produced at a relatively cheap cost. Yeah. And they directed a lot of resources toward that. We've provided between the U.S. and the coalition partners 20,000 strikes in this operation. And we've taken out 90% of the missile and the drone capacity. And they still have the ability, as we've seen here with the Apache. And that this is, I don't know, I haven't seen the after action review on that, but it is possible that. The command and control for that was delegated to a lower level. And so a commander in the field made that decision versus, you know, the regime at the top. But they do still have some capability left with it. Monica says, I'm a gold star family. USS Cole 2000. Thank you, Congressman Matt Van Epps. And I'm getting a lot of those. Thank you. So you've been in six months. What has surprised you? Because you're not, I mean, you are a politician now, but you came in not as a politician. Yeah. So what has surprised you about being a congressman? Let me give you, I'm going to give you two, one that is positive and kind of funny and one that is, you know, kind of on the negative side. I'll start with the negative side. Okay. So Homeland Security Committee. So I'm on the Counterterrorism and Intel Subcommittee. I'm on the Transportation Maritime Security Subcommittee. This was back in December, and it was the annual threats briefing. And the Democrats' response, they made a very insensitive comment when those two National Guard soldiers were killed. One was killed. One was severely injured in Washington, D.C. And that response just baffled me. It is, regardless of your political affiliation, when you have members of our military on duty in Washington, D.C. being attacked by a terrorist, and that's what happens. You should never have a response that was anything but positive and supportive. And I saw a very negative side to that. I mean, our side, when this comment was made by the ranking member of the Democrats and by the leader on the Homeland Security, their leader on the Homeland Security Committee, I mean, you could hear gasp in the room. You could hear, I mean, people got visibly upset by that.

And so that to me is not the proper way to respond to that. So that was surprising in a negative way. I think surprising and kind of a positive kind of funny way is that we don't have assigned seats on the house floor. but everybody kind of goes to their own seat. And so there have been some members that have been in their seat for, you know, sitting on the house floor for probably like 20 years. And so new guy Matt goes in. And I was probably two for two and sitting in the seat. I was just kind of rotating around trying to meet as many people as possible. And I probably twice sat in somewhere where like, hey, Matt, that person's been sitting here for 20 years. I was like, okay, no problem. I'll move. Oh, yes. Yeah. Kind of not in a kind of in a funny way. But. But I've tried to take that approach where we just engage with as many members as possible and try to build strong relationships. It's part of how we're able to lead on some of these bills that we're doing out of Homeland Security. It's how we've built support for our Gold Star bill. And that's what we intend to do in the future as well. Are you satisfied with... The six months that you've been in, you've learned a lot. I'm assuming you've learned a lot. And obviously you're looking forward to continuing. I am. I'm excited about it. We had 11 of us in the primary in this last election. I'm unopposed in this primary. So our team has worked really hard. We're going to fight. We're going to take the same work ethic, same momentum that we have into the general election. We're going to fight really hard to win. That's what our team, what our district. deserves, you know, we've redistricted. And so we go from 14 counties to eight. And so we're spending, we represent the current 14 through the end of this Congress to the end of the year, but we've got a campaign in the new counties. And so we're spending time now in Sumner, Trowsdale, and making the new counties, and try to build as much support as we can. And just to get out there and introduce ourselves and what we're working on. And so very eager and excited to continue. I cannot thank your listeners enough. You mentioned it. They're patriots and so supportive. And we're trying to build the broadest coalition across the Republican Party, across conservatives so that we can continue to advance this very important work. We've got to maintain the house. We've got to maintain the house. And we're going to continue fighting hard every day for our constituents in our district. We've got about two minutes left. Anything else? I do. I've got one final thing. Thank you for the final two minutes. So I want to present this to you too, Dan. This is hot off the presses. And so this is a military challenge coin. I'm going to explain this to the listeners to for those who don't know. And I'm going to kind of walk through what our coin is here in just two minutes. But so longstanding tradition of the military where you have coins that are producing. And typically it's a commander or a senior leader in the organization. And they're unique to that organization. So. When I was in the 160th out of Fort Campbell, I was a company commander. I had coins made for that company. They're given out when you do something really great. They're given out as recognition as a small token of appreciation to really good work. It's broadened beyond just the military now. And so there are a whole lot of agencies and organizations and businesses that will do it. But it started with the military. And so my team did an amazing job of developing our coin. This is hot off the press. You're one of the very first people that are getting this.

And so it's in the outline of an MH-47 Gulf Chinook helicopter that I flew in the 160th. Wow. And so the front side, you can see the refueling probe. It's got an American flag, a Tennessee flag. And then on the backside of this, it is a scene that our team develops. It's an American flag in the background. And it's got rural Tennessee to represent, it's got a barn to represent our rural part. It's got a scene from downtown Nashville. And then it's got the U.S. Capitol. to show that connection between district and D.C. It also has an Apache helicopter silhouette in the background. I was the first helicopter I flew. That's amazing. My team, the very first time my team put a Black Hawk on there. I said, guys, let's make it an Apache. I didn't fly Blackhawks. And I love my Blackhawk, brothers and sisters, but we put Apache on there. And then the final thing on the stand, so we put on the very top NSDQ, Nightstalkers Don't Quit. That's from the 160th. Keeping Freedom Alive, which is my... West Point Class of 2005 motto. And then on the other rotor blades on the front, you'll see, it says chin up and head down. That's a Van Ups family saying. That's what my grandparents told my dad and uncle when they were in Vietnam. It's what my dad told my brother and I when we were in Iraq and Afghanistan. And that chin up, head down means stay positive, avoid the bullets. And so this is a really important. My team designed this. They did an amazing job. I'm very proud of them. But on behalf of all of us, Dan, thank you for what you do. Thank you. Appreciate you a whole lot and presenting this to you now. Oh, man, this is awesome. Hey, Joan, you don't get one. No, I'm so jealous. Joan, if you're really nice, I'm going to show folks on the camera. So, and I'll post this to my social media. But if you're nice, Joan, I'll let you touch my coin. Okay. Jay Jones, like, can I just please do the news? Jay Jones, like, can I just do the news, please? All right. Jay Jones got the news coming up next, Congressman Matt VanEpps. Thank you very much for joining us. Thanks for having me. Thank you for the baseball, dirt, and the coin and appearing. All right, so I'm a little off clock today. Sorry, Joan. But you know what? I bet you Joan had a stellar newscast ready to go. Oh, of course I did. Now, Joan, let me ask you, did we? And is Brian Wilson here? Yeah, he's here. Oh, hey, Brian. How are you? I'm well. So, Brian, you know the big story that's going on right now? I've been a little distracted in the last few minutes. So fill me in, Dan. The Trump administration has released a third bombshell. UFO files. A bunch of UFO files. Funny you should mention. Shapeshifting orbs over the U.S. and CIA reports hidden for decades. So... I've seen them. Have you, you've seen them, Sam? The shapeshifting orbs part, yeah. They're not making that up. Let me tell you, I've been looking through some of the files. I mean, there are tons and tons of files. So just, Brian, hold on. So on Super Talk TV, I'm playing some video that is online. So I'm playing that while you're speaking.

Okay, I can't see it, but I'll take your word for it. Yeah, I've been looking through some of this stuff today, and I think the thing that, I mean, it's going to take a while to go through. There's so much information here. And it's always the case when you have a big document dump or a big trench of the documents that are released by the government in redacted form and some are video and some are audio files. It just takes a while to go through them and determine what is there. And as with most of these things, it seems to me that there's a lot of garbage. And then there are little nuggets where you go, holy moly. It is really quite something. For example, after being advised of the identities of the interviewing individuals provided by the information, they did a discussion about unidentified aerial phenomenon activity observed over Cheyenne Mountain. A former U.S. Army intelligence officer, along with four other members of this unit, observed a UAP over the Cheyenne Mountains as they exited their office building. The object was potato-shaped with the distinct edges and appeared to look painted with a creamy whitish opalescent color. It was somewhat translucent with a slight shimmer. The object was made up of what can only be described as articulating fish scales or panels. that were non-symmetrical. Wow. That sounds like out of a movie. That's, and by the way, speaking of movies, it's not, I think, coincidental. That disclosure day, Stephen Spielberg's big movie. Hey, I'm Chris Van Fleet. Go behind the scenes and beyond the headlines with the biggest names in pro wrestling and beyond. Jeff Jarrett, great to see you. In this business, the story behind the scenes, so much more entertaining than what you see on camera. Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Paul Heyman. Mr. Heyman. You are a master at the little things. That's how you turn good into great. What does it take to achieve greatness? Whatever it takes I'm willing to do. That's an Emmy wedding performance. How about it? Insight with Chris Van Vleet. Follow and listen on your favorite platform. He is released today. What's the disclosure? It's called Disclosure Day. Steven Spielberg has done a movie. He says it's the follow on to E.T. and close encounters of the third kind. But he says, It's all about what happens if all of the information was dropped in one day and we learn the truth about UAPs and UFOs and we found out about aliens and all that kind of stuff. What would be the reaction? I think that's the basis of the movie. But he says that stuff in this movie is more truth than fiction. Well, yeah. These directors, James Cameron is another one where when they do these kinds of movies, They actually really work hard to try to get the information accurate. And so, like when James Cameron did, I think it was the Titanic.

He worked really hard on getting that historically accurate. And I think that's probably what Spielberg is trying to do as well. Well, he says he's an avid, you know, UFO, UAP buff, and he's been studying it for years. And he's among, you know, like a lot of many people these days, something is out there. What it is exactly ain't clear. I do believe that there's a lot of different things going on at the same time that contribute to the UFO mystique. I think some of it is. hours. I do. I believe that some of it is stuff that we recovered, maybe as early as Roswell, and that we were able to re-engineer certain elements of it. And so I think that the triangle-shaped craft that you often hear talked about, and I think the Tic Tac, are ours, developed by skunk works and other folks, really amazing technology that is still among the most highly classified secrets in this country. So I think we'll get a lot of information about what people saw. I think we'll get a lot of information in videos and stuff from NASA and CIA and FBI and all different elements of the government. But you're not likely to get a lot of information about how much of it they have reverse engineered because it is so. highly classified and so secretive, we don't want our opponents on the world stage to know what we have. And by the way, they're doing the same thing that we're doing. And it's all pretty clear if you've really been studying this stuff. I don't know what these things are. I haven't made it my mind yet. But I think there's a lot of different things going on here that people see in the sky. Some of it are, some of it just defies explanation. Some of these, they're talking about how they were recorded, some of these videos by like an I-14 Pro Max? So it looks like, and I'm just seeing this now, obviously, as you are, this just dropped. So the question is, how clear... and concise are these videos, and will we actually really glean any information out of it? That's number one. Do you know what I also wonder? Do you think the government, Brian, I'm such a conspiracy theorist. Do you think the government dirties these up a little bit to make sure that people can't, maybe China or Russia? Well, I will tell you, if you've ever, just try this with your iPhone. Go outside and you see a big 737 flying over. Try to take a picture of it. It's not easy. Right. It's really not easy to do that. So if something's out on the horizon and you're zoomed in all the way, it's going to be shaky, it's going to be fuzzy. And then there are those who say that because some of these, they believe some of these UFOs are somehow warping time and space, that there is a bubble around them that makes them sort of fuzzy and hard to shoot pictures of and hard to focus on for the cameras. I don't know. Look, I've never seen a thing in my life. I've always wanted.

to see something, but I've never seen it. The only person I know truly who has ever witnessed something is Ken Weaver, and we're not real sure what was going on when he saw. I think Ken was smoking something. I don't know. It was an earlier time, let's put it that way. Yes, indeed. And he was at a rock concert, so who knows? Well, and to that point, Brian, I've been following the Secret of Skinwalker Ranch crew on History Channel, and they've just released their latest season from last summer. They run experiments on this 500-acre ranch in the Uinta Basin in Utah where there's a lot of UAP settings, a lot of strange phenomena from radiation bursts to GPS trackers showing up. you know, a thousand feet underground as opposed to being. And so they've dug out of the mesa and they've cut into this material that they believe might surround these crafts. And under exposure to electrons, it changes its density. It changes the way that particles are structured as if it could bend light around itself. And then they had it tested and it tests like a plaster ceramic material, but it's heat resistant. The properties just don't add up. And then on top of that, they had it dated from this mesa in Utah. And the expert's best guest was it was thousands of years old. Yeah. And I mean, it's just, I've actually said, I'll have to say, I have watched that Skinwalker Ranch thing. Fascinating stuff. I don't know what's going on there, but it seems like there's something happening there at that ranch in Utah. And many times it just defies explanation. It's like it's getting to the point now where they do one of their little experiments and boom. There's a UAP. It just shows up out of nowhere. And it's like they don't even blink an eye anymore. They've seen so many of them. Well, and it could be an experiment like they shoot these big model rockets or the latest episode I watched, they're doing a smoke test to trying to find this invisible boundary. And it shows up while they're blowing smoke into the air. It's just crazy what sets it off. Yeah, but have they found the little green men with big eyes? Oh, here we go. The ones they say. I have common peace. Listen, if you aliens get this message, you could fly over Coffey County and there's an abductable candidate that I'm sure would like to learn a lesson about being probed. There's thousands of them in a farm field, not too far from here. Oh, they all believe. The Badaruians all believe that. Let me ask you a question. If aliens decided they wanted to come out and be known and they wanted to contact our leader, who would be the leader they contact? Who should be the person? that they reach out to on behalf of all humanity. Elon Musk. No, definitely Donald Trump. I'm going to go with Ryan Sechrest. Oh, my gosh. But I think the reason that might work is I really do believe that Ryan Sechrest is actually an alien. Well, he and Nancy Pelosi.

Well, I mean, have you looked at Ryan Seacrest lately? He looks like a frog. I don't know what's going on. Well, maybe he's had some work. You know, all those people have work. They get work done. And so then they, you know what's so odd? You can only wear a human skin suit for so long. Do you know it's so odd? Brian, I bet you Joan can comment on this. So you got these people in Hollywood and you're used to seeing them like in movies and such. But then you see him on like an interview or something. And you're looking closely at the TV, and it's like they've been embalmed, but they're living. Like, that's what they look like with all of this work. Yeah. I know. And I keep saying, explain to me, as long as the point, we were all over the place today, aren't we? Explain to me the women with the big lips. I do not get it. It is the most unattractive thing I've ever seen. It looks like they've been stung by a bee, like right in the blood. Can I tell you something? That hurts. To have that done really hurts. Why would you want to do that? Joan would know because she also lets fire ants walk over her feet. I know pain. So why, Joan, what is the purpose of having big lips? Like, why would you want to do that? I don't know. I mean, I think it's just trendy. So, you know, you see somebody else with the big lips and you're like, wow, that's cool. No, it's not cool. It's ugly. It's just creepy is what it is. They look bizarre. And what happens is because your lips are expanded, it gets rid of the lines above your lips. But, you know, that come with age, you know, that's the goal of it to make your lips look young. But some young girls do it so early on. I can't even imagine what they'll look like when they're, you know, 50-60. So the rest of your face looks like 70, but you've got like 50-year-old lips. Their lips are rocking it, yeah. Wow. People are just so dumb. Hey, Brian, I've got a recommendation for you. Okay. By the way, as you may or may not know, Brian, but, you know, the news has been rather frustrating the last couple of days. And so if you want to borrow some of my smooth jazz that I played earlier, because people told me that I needed to settle down. And so this is our official chill pill theme. where, like, I played this because the guy said he needed to go listen to some smooth jazz to, like, settle down because of all of the, all of the news of the day. So I played this for him. So if you'd like to borrow this, Brian, can. I have my own. It goes a little something like this. And welcome to the Culture Corner. There you go. That sounds like Mr. Rogers. Say again? Sounds like Mr. Rogers' neighborhood. That's right. In other words, she's saying it sounds creepy, Brian. Could you be? My neighbor. Could you be my neighbor? Hello, boys and girls. Today we're going to talk about flying saucers. A little green men. Interdimensional beings. All right.

Well, you're right, Brian. We've been all over the place today. Yep. And we came full circle there, didn't we? We sure did. All right. So, Brian, real quick, what is coming up after the news at 9? What did you got in store? Oh, I mean, I've given it all to you here. I know, what a difference a day makes. Yesterday, when I was filling in for Chris and we had a situation where it looked like we were about to go back to war with Iran. Within a couple of hours, apparently we're close to a deal. Deal or no deal? Do we really have a deal this time? I don't know. But everybody seems to like what they're hearing. We'll do that. We'll swamps, midterms, UAP, and more stuff about that. We'll get deeply into the data centers. There's some very interesting stories in reporting being done about data. centers and you know how much water a data sent the data centers in America use on a daily basis oh it's huge 300,000 gallons of water a day yeah And if you're in the middle of a drought, like we are, I don't know if we're still in a drought, but if you're in the middle of a drought, that also not helpful. And I'm not anti-Data Center. I'm just saying that there is always going to be a question of priorities. And so, you know. All right, zoo, real quick, Brian, did we talk about this yesterday? Are you pro-data center or pro-Zoo? Where do you fall on that? Because that's something that doesn't fall. among the usual political lines. I'm all in favor of protecting the partly cloudy leopards and taking care of them. You know, look, and I just think I'm not anti-I'm like you. I don't think I'm anti-Data Center, but I am, you know, sort of sensitive to the argument that you can't just plop one down anywhere. Yeah, that's very true. The problem is going to be is that everybody is going to find an excuse why they don't want one in their backyard. And we've got to have them. But we're so far ahead, as I'll get into this, so far ahead of the rest of the world in doing these things, it's really remarkable. Scrolling with Haley. I'm Haley Karenia. I scroll with the homies here in the live chat because there's a lot to scroll through on X, on Instagram, on TikTok. Cutting through the clutter, one hot take at a time. Love seeing you all in the chat before the show. I tried to jump in just a few minutes before to say hello. I love the chat interaction. Thank you for helping. But I do it to get all of the videos and all of the content that you won't find anywhere else. Scrolling with Haley. Just search that up and I will be there. Follow and listen on your favorite platform. form.