Hour 3 of NMN, Senator Marsha Blackburn

We have Senator Marsha Blackburn in studio. Senator, thank you very much for joining us on Nashville's morning news. I'm delighted to be here. Thank you. We had John Rose in studio for an hour. We had Monty Fritz in studio for an hour, and I'm really appreciative that you are here. For folks that don't know, I mean, everybody knows who Senator Marsha Blackburn is, but they may not know your political history. Four years in the state Senate. 16 years in the House of Representatives, now in your second term in the Senate as you run for governor beginning. So that's quite the political history. Your legacy in Tennessee politics, I would say, is unmatched among your opponents. And by the way, just so people know, I'm not advocating for you. I'm not advocating for John Rose. I'm not advocating for Monty Fritz. I just want people to be educated on the Tennessee issues. So just so people know. Before we get into the real issues, There's so much chaos going on right now in Washington, D.C. People are really angry with the Senate Republicans because of the failure of the Save America Act. Do you worry that some of that frustration will impact your support as you run for governor? Most people, Dan, know that I'm one of the ones that has been on the Save America Act since day one. And you've got a group in the Senate called the steering committee, and it's the conservatives in the Senate. And I serve on that executive committee. And it's Rick Scott and Mike Lee and Ron Johnson and Ted Cruz, Cynthia Lumas, me. And Bernie Moreno, Ted Budd, have joined us on this year. And, of course, in the Senate, we're the ones that have pushed. save America. And people are right to be frustrated with that. We're frustrated with that. And of course, we've said, even if it takes the talking filibuster, let's do it. But you know, one thing that we've looked at doing, which I think could be helpful, is breaking it apart and doing my election security partnership bill, doing voter ID. doing proof of citizenship, doing it all separately. Okay. And, of course, we've talked about, we've all talked about, I've interviewed you before on the phone regarding the elimination of the filibuster. Clearly there is no appetite in the Senate for eliminating the filibuster that's been discussed. You know, Tennessee and, yeah, they've wanted to see this done. And, of course, I've supported eliminating the filibuster. I'm fully on record with that going back to 2018. Yeah. You know, when I was in the House, I was frustrated with the Senate filibuster. So, no, we've not been able to get that one done. All right. So let's get to Tennessee politics. Sure. The education scholarships, Governor Bill Lee, you know that he's been expanding them as so much as he can. There have been some in the state legislature that have not been for such a rapid escalation in the number of these scholarships. Do you believe that there is enough evidence to show success to justify continued expansion of the education scholarships from Bill Lee?

got a 78-year sentence last week on a criminal. And keeping that engagement there, the mayor's been great, the police chief's been great, they are seeing higher numbers. We pull the stats every single week. And they just graduated a class, I think it was of 82 new officers. Mm-hmm. They started a new training class of 160 new recruits. And, Dan, the thing is they've been like 600 officers short. Yeah. So continuing to focus on this, making certain that we continue to backfill until they get enough officers. And we continue to make Memphis safe again. Well, it's amazing what happens. It's amazing what happens when you start showing respect for law enforcement. That's right. Then suddenly people want to become cops again. But specifically, would you continue with the same level of law enforcement in Memphis? Some, I believe, including Congressman Andy Ogles. Andy Ogles have said that we need to do the same thing in Nashville. Well, you continue with it until Memphis says, we've got this. And every day is when you talk to the officers down there, they say every day they're learning new things from all the federal agencies that are there. And if there are other cities that need to have this kind of influx and surge and backup, you know, there are three issues, three, that we repeatedly hear all across the state. Number one is jobs in the economy and making certain that people have. more money in their pocket. Number two is public safety and number three is education. Tennesseans want safe communities and this is a way we've been able to help bring that to the state. Now, I will say this when you talk to sheriffs and DAs in other West Tennessee counties, they say they give it a thumbs up because The message is getting out. If you are in Tennessee... and you're one of these gang leaders or cartel members, and we find you, we are going to apprehend you, we are going to detain you, we are going to put you in jail, we are going to prosecute you, and if you're here illegally, we are going to deport you. If you are a naturalized citizen and you've been defrauding our people, you are going to be denaturalized and you're going to be deported. That is the way it should be. That is standing behind law enforcement. And that is how we make Tennessee safe. One of the things that you went down the road of illegal immigration, Governor Bill Lees, state legislature have been working directly with President Trump to ensure that we, to quote the late Great Phil Valentine, demagnetized the state and also work to increase cooperation with ICE and reduced local limits on immigration enforcement. So.

I mean, it almost feels like a dumb question, but I'll ask it because that's what I do. As governor, you would continue with those policies. Oh, you better believe it. Yes. We need to be the number one state when it comes to deporting. illegal aliens that are in this state. And we need to make certain that scrolling with Haley. I'm Haley Kareenia. I scroll with the homies here in the live chat because there's a lot to scroll through on X, on Instagram, on TikTok. Cutting through the clutter, one hot take at a time. Love seeing you all in the chat before the show. I tried to jump in just a few minutes before to say hello. I love the chat interaction. Thank you for helping. But I do it to get all of the videos and all of the content that you won't find. anywhere else scrolling with Haley. Just search that up and I will be there. Follow and listen on your favorite platform. that we have zero sanctuary city policies being enforced. We do not have sanctuary cities. And if you've got mayors that are going to fight ICE and fight the rule of law, then we need to deal with that. And the fact that Freddie O'Connell, Mayor Freddie, has been taking taxpayer money and giving to a group that supports illegal immigrants. The citizens, the taxpayers here in Davidson County, ought to be very upset with that. I know we've heard a lot about it. There's two groups. And they're still trying to get the documentation as far as exactly what that money was to be used for and the justification for it. We've been talking about that here on Nashville's Morning News. We've all spoken here on the radio station about the Starbucks deal. So. Governor Lee's administration enters into this deal with Starbucks relocating jobs, their corporate offices as well. The governor's office says in exchange for the $30 million in incentives, we end up with hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue, real estate investment and jobs for Tennesseans. Now, your opponents have said that this is corporate welfare and that Starbucks does not represent the values of Tennessee. And so they're against it. What do you think? I think Starbucks is leaving Washington State because it was so DEI, woke, ESG, high taxes. They couldn't do business there anymore. Overrun with homeless? So, yeah. And they've got all these problems. There are other companies that are leaving some of these big blue states because it is not a business-friendly environment. Now, it's like Starbucks got religion.

and they've decided they want to be in a red state. A lot of people have decided they want to be in a red state. A lot of businesses. I mean, look at us. We are low tax. We are light regulation. We're a right to work state. And, of course, they want to come here. Now, my understanding on the Starbucks deal specifically, Pardon me, is it is a $30 million incentive, and the state recoupes its money out of that in six months. And the payroll is $250 million a year, and they are high-paying jobs. And just as you've had people... in your industry that want to get out of California, want to get out of New York. And, you know, Dan, look, we were just talking about you do shows that are going in D.C., they're going in other places. People want to be here. Yeah. And they're moving here. What you have to make certain is that these are smart deals, that they're going to be jobs for Tennesseans, that they're going to be higher wages. As I said, number one thing. Number one thing that Tennesseans talk about, jobs, better wages. They want to make certain that not only is it a good place for them to work, but we've got jobs for their kids, their grandkids, so that they stay here and they don't have to move away. Yeah. So, Mamas want to keep those kids close. Zooming out, I mean, generally speaking. Hey, Dan, can I say one thing on the immigration issue we were talking about? Because I kind of get going. on getting illegal aliens deported. There's a lot, and y'all were just covering it during the news break on the birthright citizenship. Yes. And it is my legislation that would stop that birthright tourism. And I was texting with the president this morning. Now's the time to move that bill, but I will guarantee you this. In Tennessee, we are not going to allow birthright. tourism to take place the fact that people think they can get a ticket to america go stay here for six months have their baby leave the country and then come back and you look at china's plans and what china is trying to do when you look at the hundred year marathon they think by 2050 they're going to be in charge and we need to wake up and realize this. And you don't want to give people the ability. And China and Russia are the two top countries that exercise this birthright tourism. You look at what is happening in Iran with Islam, with the caliphate. You do not want to give these individuals the path to come here.

Be a U.S. citizen because they are born on our soil, leave the country, and then at some point later in their adult life come back as a citizen. Well, you know, as far as these Middle Eastern countries and... is the saying goes, you import the third world, you become the third world. And so do you think that that legislation that you were texting Donald Trump about, do you think that has any chance of passing this dysfunctional Congress in Washington, D.C.? You don't know until you try. And absolutely pushing this. And when you look at the decisions that the court sent back, they are sending things back to the states. And so this is why you've got to have strong governors. As governor, I am going to make certain that we put in place the policies that are going to make sure that our citizens are safe. that our citizens have great jobs, and that Tennessee is the leading Christian conservative state in this country. Zooming out, you talked about jobs again, so real quick, generally speaking, when we're talking about, like, for example, the Starbucks deal. Yeah. Do you think these kinds of deals are, because one of the, one of the criticisms is that it's picking... winners and losers because you are giving these massive multi-billion dollar corporations incentives to come here and people call it corporate welfare when we've got legacy businesses in nashville that are closing because of the high property taxes and so forth so is it more a case of doing what you can to make tennessee business friendly but Does that also sort of shut out the legacy businesses here in Middle Tennessee? It ought not to shut out legacy businesses or legacy farming. And what you want to do is make certain that you've got a pathway to help small businesses and to help those main street businesses grow. And there's a little, kind of a little formula that I have always used less litigation plus less taxation plus less regulation. equals more innovation and job creation. And as you look at policy around economic development and what the state's participation is going to be, of course you've got to consider these homegrown businesses and how you grow those businesses, how you retain jobs, and how you recruit jobs. And then as different, take the auto industry.

For example, look at all the Tool and Die manufacturers, the advanced manufacturing companies that are all homegrown that are now suppliers for those companies. And you want to open those doors of opportunity and make certain that those jobs are going to be here. And these... businesses have the opportunity to be generational businesses. And adding to that, I would say this initiative that's on the ballot in November, and of course we are aggressively working on that and focusing on that is the yes on amendment two, which would foreclose the idea of ever having a property tax, a state property tax in the state of Tennessee. Because many times people get taxed out of their homes or taxed out of their farms or their property. And you want to go ahead and just take that off the table and say, in Tennessee, we don't have a state income tax. Thank goodness. And in Tennessee, we will never, ever have a state property tax. And Senator Marsha Blackburn is joining us in studio. As you folks know, if you listen every day that I had John Rose and Monty Fritz, both running for the governorship for the state of Tennessee. And Marsha Blackburn is also joining us for the entire hour. One of the things, Senator, that I want to ask you about, John Rose is leveling, you know, one of his attack points, if you will, is the discussion about... your vote on January 6th to certify the election for Joe Biden. Now, he's used that as an attack point, and that is one of the things that separates you and the congressman. So I'm going to ask you to remind people why you went ahead and eventually certified the election for Joe Biden. That's number one. But number two is I find it fascinating that President Trump and you... you have a great relationship. And that hasn't been the case with some of these other senators. So I also want to talk about your relationship with Donald Trump and how it evolved from that very dark period in time to how it is today. Yeah, absolutely. Well, of course, I had signed the objection on Arizona and Pennsylvania. And then, of course, the chaos in the Capitol. ensued. I was actually Langford was speaking. I was set to speak next. And then the chaos happened. And then later that afternoon, the president came out and gave a speech, said, let's get everybody home. You all go back, wrap up the day, and let's get everybody home. And then that is when the recognizing or certifying the state votes. But, you know, one of the things, you live to fight another day, and that is when the conservatives, that steering committee group, when we started saying we have got to do something about election integrity. So Save America grew out of that. And as governor in Tennessee...

I'm pushing to make election day mean election day and to not have these unsolicited mail-out ballots so that we foreclose that. We are never going to do that in Tennessee. And we have the most secure elections in the country. We've been ranked, number one, but we need to double down on that. and go on and close that off. And with President Trump, I met him in 2008. And we have worked together through 2012. As you know, he looked at running for president in 2012. We would do different... Speaking events, we were in Iowa, we were in New Hampshire, so my path would cross with him. When I was in New York for meetings, I would go by and see him. And in 2015, 2016, I was one of his top surrogates and continued to work with him, making certain that we pushed his Trump agenda. And indeed, in this second term, working with him on his agenda, working with him through the Biden years as he was looking at running again. And as we would have different issues and things come up, then talking about what his response would be, what would be great for us. And as I tell him, the way he's draining the swamp. which is one of his things and sending power back to the states. I tell him he's going to mess up and make the states great again, which is great, and that's what he wants to do. But whether you're talking about health care or education or advanced in nuclear energy or permitting or regulations, he is sending all this back to the states, that's what we as conservatives have fought for and have asked for the opportunity to be able to scoop up. all of this responsibility that should never have been in D.C. in the first place. And then set a course for our state. And the president is giving. states this opportunity to do this. And Tennessee should be at the front of the line in setting conservative policy and showing other states how to do this. I want 49 states to be jealous of Tennessee and what we've got going on here and trying to emulate what we're doing. Well, that's one of the reasons when you announced that you were running. One of the things that you said.

was that, you know, I'm going to paraphrase now, and feel free to correct me, but pretty much what you said is it's time to make the states great again. And you're going to go back to Tennessee. And that's what you are going to continue to do, is continue to do the work that Bill Lee, Governor Lee, has been doing. And Governor Haslam before him. And Governor Haslam before him as well. Rural hospitals. Yes. The left is going to tell you that Republicans are, you know, gutting Medicaid, gutting Medicare. And we're saying that we're trying to fix it. End of the day, here in Tennessee, we do have rural hospitals that are in danger of closing or cutting services. What can we do to protect these hospitals in Tennessee, especially obviously for the veterans? Yes. And there is a rural health, pardon me, rural health care transformation fund. I'm going to have to use some of your throat coat over there. I've got plenty. Everybody knows where the throat coat hookup is. Yes. But the rural health care transformation fund, which is something I've worked on federally that we are bringing into Tennessee and we're going to get $207 million a year for each of the next five years. It is to increase. access and outcomes in rural Tennessee. Now, these access points, something that we were very successful in doing is up in Fentress County, working with the mayor, working with UTMed, doing a enhanced emergency room where you have... EMS and behavioral health and exam rooms and telehealth and imaging and lab work. And that is the place to properly triage people. Students can go there and get well checks and sport checks. And, you know, this is the type thing that brings health care to people. And I was in Upper East Tennessee on Monday and toured over at Ballad Health. And look how they're using technology, how they're using AI. to actually bring healthcare. into clinics and into hospitals and monitor and make certain that people get the care they need and the time they need it. The other thing is taking that into homes so that you've got that linkage back to your physician for people that have chronic and difficult health care situations. That is something where they're able to monitor and then use that predictive analysis. to say, okay, we see this trend. This individual has this that or the other going on. That is probably going to lead to this. Let's jump in and foreclose that idea on that and get ahead.

of whatever that is. It could be an infection. It could be an adverse trend in whatever their chronic situation is. And healthcare informatics, healthcare technology, being able to take that into rural communities and then take that into the home with devices and with home health. which gives seniors the opportunity to stay in their homes where they want to be. I am really optimistic about what that is going to do with health care. And you know, Dan, that is going to help shift the focus to wellness and to better outcomes, better quality of life for people that do have chronic conditions. So, I mean... When we talk about the rural hospitals, there is definitely a situation where we need to count on AI and the technology and everything. Do you think part of the problem? The United States Soccer Federation presents the U.S. Soccer Podcast. I'm your host, Megan Klingerberg. One thing I promised you is an all-access pass that you wouldn't get on any other show. And we found out that whoever comes on scores a goal. Burhope, Freeman, trustee. U.S. soccer podcast magic is real people. We still got plenty of coverage all throughout this World Cup. Okay, let's get into it. The U.S. Soccer podcast. Presented by Henko. Follow and listen on your favorite play. platform might be funding. Of course. Part of the problem is funding. And you look at the Medicare rates. There's a thing called the area wage index and upping that. That is something that I've been able to do. There's a hospital improvement plan called the HIPP program and worked extensively on that with the Tennessee Hospital Association on the disproportionate share. payments back to the states and making certain that there's parity for tennessee in that that we have full access on the hospital improvement plan, that we are focusing and taking advantage of what technology can bring to us so that our citizens can get to the health care they need in a more timely manner. And so that we are taking health care into those communities. One of the things that... East Tennessee State University has developed a great nursing program. And one of the things we're talking about and don't know exactly how we can do this is incenting individuals to practice medicine.

in these communities for given periods of time. Now, federally, we have worked on that. And we're looking at some of these nurse tech CRNA programs, things of that nature. And how do we incent that? And I have visited with some of those different ones of those groups this week. So that as I'm sworn in as governor, in January, we hit that. the road on this. We just hit the ground running and we are going to make certain we're continuing to bring this health care into rural areas. Data centers. Everybody's talking about data centers popping up all over the place across Tennessee. Notably, of course, we have one proposed right next to the zoo here in Nashville. As governor, how would you balance the... Opportunity of data centers and AI and all that that entails with the concerns of local communities who don't want them in their backyard, including the clouded leopard at the zoo. Yes. Let me take the data center and then go to the zoo. At data centers, of course, they're kind of like the factories of 100 years ago. And, of course, you don't want this into a neighborhood. And we have lots of communities in Tennessee that have industrial parks, and they are saying, hey, we would love to have a data center here because it is primarily skilled labor jobs. The main jobs there are going to be welding, HVAC, plumbing, electricians. technologists, so they are trying to recruit those data centers. We also need to realize that we want our data, whether it is phone data or it is AI data to be stored in the U.S. We do not want communist China to have this. We do not want them data mining us. We do not want them tracking our people. Most of the decisions on where these go are going to be local zoning decisions. And communities that want them are going to recruit them. Communities that don't want them are not going to recruit them. Now, when it comes to the zoo, First of all, let me say, I think that Mayor Freddie's saying he may exercise the eminent domain and take property. I am not for that. That's what Zohran Mamdani is doing in New York City. He is taking people's property, and that's wrong. What I am also not for is having a data center that backs up to the zoo. We have a long... term CEO at the Nashville Zoo. When I was on that board years ago, it is someone that we hired, as he likes to say, he's a zookeeper. He is a mighty good zookeeper and has built a wonderful facility. So that company needs to be working with the zoo. We do not want that. That disturbing the breeding farm.

are disturbing the leopard exhibit. But we also know that there's going to be a proper place for a data center. Cost of living here in Tennessee, of course, continues to be a big topic of conversation. Housing is the biggest factor. What can you do as governor to help alleviate those costs for folks? Permitting and simplifying permitting deregulation is something that will take place. I give the General Assembly a lot of credit on moving forward with a regulatory reform act that they pass. That kind of sets in place. I guess you would say the foundation to move forward and to review deregulation or review regulation and deregulate and then simplified permitting. When I talked to builders and I was talking to someone that builds homes yesterday and they said the permitting is something that is very difficult to deal with and simplification on that would be helpful. I think also... When you look at better jobs that are going to pay higher wages, that is going to help. Inflation, of course, is going to have an impact. And one of the things that we can do that helps to get the cost of government down. which plays into what your economy is going to be in the state, what your credit rating is going to be, is to do what William Lamberth calls a Tennessee doge. And I tell you what Marcia has a great big, fat, red marker. And we are going to go through and root out the fraud, the waste. programs that have outlived their usefulness and make certain that money stays in the taxpayer's pocket. But those are all things that end up affecting the cost of housing. One thing that does help us is that we are a right-to-work state. And that does make quite a difference. We want to keep these taxes low. Again, you get into the property tax issue and foreclosing ever having that state property tax is going to be a good thing. Capital punishment. The last attempted execution in the state of Tennessee guy named Tony Carruthers failed. They couldn't establish a backup or central IV line. So a two-part question. Are you still supportive of capital punishment? Some conservatives are changing their views on that. And any thoughts as to how to avoid what happened in the Cruthers case? Yes, I am supportive of capital punishment. And I will tell you this. When it comes to protecting our children, these people that are raping and molesting our babies, they need the death sentence.

and violent criminals who have committed these crimes and have been sentenced to death, and then they go through their appeals process, and they have exhausted all of their appeals. It is time at that point to flip the switch and give these victims' families closure. How do we avoid the situation with the IV? I mean, I don't know. Part of the problem, of course, is that every time we come up with a way to execute, the activists will come in and say, well, that's, you know, inhumane and cruel and all that kind of thing. How do we get to a method of execution that, number one, will work? And number two, we will actually be allowed to continue on. And there are, you can use the electric chair. But there again, when they have exhausted all of those appeals, that is when you need to carry out that execution. I'm off for the firing squad, just so we're all clear. I've said that a number of different times. You never run out of bullets. Real quick, because I'm running out of time. I want to talk about nuclear energy. Oh, yes. We have some larger facilities right now being run by the TVA couple. But it seems to me that the small modular reactors that represents the most opportunity here in Tennessee as governor. How would you manage the growth of our state's nuclear infrastructure? Yes, and we have TVA with the first permit to do an SMR. It'll be a 300 megawatt unit. We also have chiro synergy that is doing one that can range from a 1 to 300 megawatt unit. And we have companies that are working on fusion and fission and the micro reactors. What is taking place at Oak Ridge in this? need to be pushing to make this happen we should be the nation's leader in nuclear power generation and in developing and deploying these technologies governor lee has put a lot of attention on this it is a growth opportunity for our state We need to be having TVA work with these industrial users and build an order list for people that want to have an SMR, whether it's 100 or a 300. And people that want a micro, maybe they've got a manufacturing plant in their industrial park. And see, the good thing about this is, you can actually sell that power back to the grid. if you have been licensed for more than what you currently need and you have not grown to the point that you need all of that. So that helps get the cost down. Now,

What we do need and what we've tried to do federally is the ratepayer protection pledge. And as governor, that rate payer protection pledge so that communities know is they get hyperscalers or industrial manufacturers or AI centers, data centers, that their rates, their residential rates are not going to go up and that businesses are not going to see. that increase an increase in their cost. You want to be fair to those existing businesses. And, Dan, this goes back to what you were saying about doing, having policies that are going to help the homegrown businesses. So they stay here. And then kind of working with that to make certain, yes, these people can generate their electricity. Yes, they can sell it back to the grid, but they cannot transfer the cost. to the residential consumer or the business consumer. As far as the campaign goes, you have received a lot of criticism for not debating John Rose or Monty Fritz. Why have you not debated them and is that criticism fair? I don't think the criticism is fair. You're always going to get criticism. I mean, I get criticism every single day. And it comes with the territory. But we're talking to Tennesseans all over this state every day and have been for years. And that's where we have put our attention. What do Tennesseans want? What are their hopes and dreams for the future? What kind of state? do they want us to have? What issues are important to address? And just as I've this morning talked about people I've worked with this week, that is that we're listening every day. We're working with people every day. And I'll say this too, we've got a really aggressive. grassroots campaign, which is a ton of fun. We're knocking on doors and we're making contacts with people. We're making phone calls and working through that process to be sure that people know that early vote is going to start on July 17th. And the election is August 6th and Marsha Blackburn needs their vote. One of the other criticisms, there's a video that came out. I think it was Channel 5. They were trying to ask you a question and you ended up going into an elevator and they were pummeling you with questions. Yeah. Which with what had to be just the longest waiting for the elevator door to close ever. The elevator malfunctioned. Yeah. And but I mean, the implication or the accusation is that you're also, have you spent an hour here, but that you're avoiding media interviews. No, it was a federal event with federal staff. And I was set to make, to make remarks on an issue.

that I've worked extensively on with some of our Tennessee companies, and that is online fraud. Much of this is directed at our elder and our older communities and people being defrauded out of homes and money, life savings. And I was doing a federal event. So if you're doing a federal event, you can't necessarily comment on the election stuff? You cannot. Okay, very good. Senator, give me your 60-second elevator pitch for the folks that are listening. This is a great time to be at Tennessee, and we are the greatest state and the best place in, I think, the world. And certainly in the United States, to live, to work, to rear a family. And we want next generation jobs for all those kids. and grandkids. And this is the opportunity for us to do a reset. And the power is coming back to the state. After I led that state income tax battle, we did a reset in Tennessee. We got our fiscal house in order. We started focusing on education. We are now the lowest tax per capita state in the... country and we can build on that good firm foundation tennesseeans are smart they elect good leaders we can take this foundation and we should be number one when it comes to protecting life protecting our kids economic development having strong communities deporting Illegal aliens. We should be number one in generating nuclear power. We should be number one in educating our kids. Our state does not need a manager. Our state needs a leader. That leader is me. All right, Senator Marsha Blackburn. Thank you for joining us here on Super Talk, 997. I'm delighted to. All right, and we will talk to you again soon. Scrolling with Haley, join Haley Caronea as she scrolls through the biggest headlines. If you haven't watched this show before, we do blind reactions. I have not seen these videos, so I am seeing them for the first time with all of you. We're going to implement the tinfoil hat time segments and all the stuff you know and love. And I'm going to finish the show and answer some of your questions. Someone asked me, what made you get into podcasting? And I was producing podcasts for other people. And I was like, I could do this for myself. And here I am. Scrolling with Haley, follow and listen on your favorite platform.