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Good Friday afternoon, you exceptional Americans. How do you do? I do just fine, because it's Friday, and I've been praying for this day since right around 6 a.m. Monday morning. We're just about there. The weekend is within reach. It is Friday, April 24th, 2026 in the year of our Lord, and I am your radio talk show host. Phil in Daddy. Matt Kittle, proud to be doing so here on the Dan O'Donnell show. Dan Sullivan taking the day off, I believe. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Our excellent producer, Dave Michaels, this afternoon. Dan will be back on Monday. Is that correct? Well, I did. Let's see you. I'm checking my text message. Oh, yes. I just got a text. I need, Kittle, throw my bail. Would you please? Yeah, he says, send lawyers, guns and money, the you know what has hit the fan. Well, I'm sure he'll have plenty to talk about when he gets out of jail when he's back in the hot seat on Monday. Yes, people ask me, they say, well, who's the more known Kittle, Kittle? And I tell them. It's George Kittle, of course. A few football fans out there, 49ers, just a tremendous talent in the tight end position. I am not. George Kittle. You know, I break every Iowans heart when I tell, because George Kittle played at the University of Iowa, of course, for the Hawkeyes for years. And I tell them, you know, I say, they excitedly come up and they say, are you related to George Kittle? And I say, no, I'm sorry, I'm not. And they look at me like I just slapped them in the face or killed their puppy. And I said, so I've started to say, well, you never know. If I do a DNA test, we could have the evidence right here before us. But no, I am, the best of my knowledge, I am not related to George Kittle, and I am not as famous nor talented as he in the world of football. Although I can tell you, already at last night's NFL draft, I was traded for a bag of Jack Link's beef jerky and a couple of penthouse forums. And they're still saying I'm overpriced. So I don't know how I feel about all of that. Although the pet house forums are really quite well written. And that's what it's all about the articles. Let's make somebody a winner, huh? Let's make somebody a thousand dollars richer right here, right now. It's the nationwide key word contest, the nationwide spring green cash contest, I should say. The key word this hour in our nationwide spring green cash contest is.
What is it, Dave? Because this doesn't look like the right one to me. Looks like somebody dropped in the incorrect one. There you go, because, yes, I had a different one, and so I just wanted to double-check with you. You know how our listeners get when we get the word screwed up. So the keyword this hour is rich, as in let's make you $1,000 richer, but the keyword is rich. You have until 55 minutes past the hour to go to this fine radio station's website. Enter the keyword rich. to enter the contest for this hour. Good luck to you. Let's see if we can make somebody a thousand dollars richer this hour. Coming up, a lot to accomplish on this Friday edition of the Dan O'Donnell Show. The Poor Hospital Lie. We're going to talk about a new study that tracks the... ludicrous nature of this long-time narrative that hospitals across America are just basically on skid row. They just don't have enough cash coming in. And that's not the case because they, along with the government, have worked the system so you don't win, but they do. According to a new study that is out this week, the big... hospital racket, how government policy fuels the health care cost crisis will be joined in just a bit by John Graham, visiting fellow at Paragon, Paragon Health Institute. But right now, one of the big stories of this week has been the Southern Poverty Law Center. Speaking of poverty, and... the misnomer that this group was somehow connected to poverty because they made a lot of money over the years. And so we say, WTF, SPLC, find out what it means to me. In September, the Capital Research Center published a report titled, The Southern Poverty Law Center is biased and extraordinarily wealthy. The SPLC is perhaps most notorious for its hate map. which not only neglects to track extremist groups on the left, but also lumps mainstream conservative and religious organizations right alongside some of the most reprehensible neo-Nazis and white supremacist in the country. Now we're learning just how far this actual hate group has gone to get whitey, according to a new federal indictment charging the center with defrauding donors. by using their money to fund the very extremism that it claimed to be fighting. Scott Walter is president of Capital Research Center. They do a hell of a job tracking nonprofits and showing where the money is, where it comes from, and where it's going. He joins us now for some insight on SPLC. Good afternoon, sir. Thank you so much for joining us. Great to be with you.
Well, I guess I wasn't surprised that eventually this very troubled Southern Poverty Law Center would be called out. Of course, they have been in the past. Their leader left several years ago on all kinds of charges involving a hostile workplace, sexual harassment, these kinds of things. Now, though, it's amazing. This indictment... really lays out just what a nefarious group this SPLC is. How did we get to this point where we have this kind of operation going on? Well, you know, it's actually a pretty common story in the charity world. The SPLC was set up around 1970 when the Ku Klux Klan was still riding high, only a few years after the major civil rights laws had passed. And the mission was... get rid of the Ku Klux Klan, and they decided the best way to do that would be just to sue them into oblivion, right? Take lawsuit after lawsuit and big payouts that would bankrupt the operation and shut it down. And they did a good job of that in the 70s and 80s. In fact, because, of course, you know, now the clans are pretty, you know, the terribly fringe, obscure, not powerful or rich at all. entity to the extent it exists at all. But instead of declaring victory and shutting down, they wanted to keep the money going. They were, the Morris D's, that's this swinish guy who finally got crossed out a few years ago you were mentioning earlier. He was a brilliant junk mail genius. and he wasn't about to stop the money coming in. So they broadened the mission to essentially just attack conservatives they didn't like. And as you say, they now will put next to some little Nazi skin head group that's got six guys in a mountain in Idaho. They'll put them right next to the Family Research Center, Council, sorry, Family Research Council, which is a, you know, totally reputable. decent, you know, conservative Christian group in Washington. Yeah, these are the same schmucks, by the way, that went after moms for liberty. You mentioned the Family Research Council, all kinds of faith-based Christian groups that have nothing to do with this. And you note that you have a lot of liberal politicians and a corrupt corporate media going along for the ride. and, you know, soiling the reputations of these very good groups. And I guess one of the questions that will come out of this as we work through this indictment in the legal process, any of these folks ever going to truly be held accountable? And I'm not just talking about the Southern Poverty Law Center. I'm talking about the accomplished players in their mission to destroy the right in America. Well,
I hope so, but, you know, being left means never having to say you're sorry. I'm afraid. Very little accountability comes to any of these folks. uh for anything right i mean if you do the new york times given its politzer back for its uh russia hoax yeah garbage i mean you know there's very little now having said that most americans have no interest in looking at the new york times and have no respect for it so there's that but uh You're right. The garbage ratings were eaten up by all, you know, Amazon Smile program wouldn't let you donate to a charity if it was on the hate list. All kinds of other folks would ding perfectly legitimate groups because they were on the hate list. Yes. I would like to start at the very least seeing some public apologies for those sorts of things, but I won't hold my breath. Scott Walter is president of Capital Research Center. They also operate the fantastic site Influence Watch. If you're ever looking to track a 5013C, 501, 3C4, all of these nonprofits, these charities out there. This is a great place to begin, quite frankly, and they do a fantastic job of tracking these organizations and tracking the money. And that's what I wanted to ask you next. I mean, how much money are we talking about that's involved in this when we have an organization that's paying the clan to infiltrate and make it look like the clan and these... good conservative groups are, you know, tied at the hip? Well, unfortunately, you can scare lefties out of money very easily, if it would seem, because they are typically taking in a hundred, you know, over a hundred million a year in revenue. And if you want to talk about their assets that they're sitting on, they're sitting on about three quarters of a billion. in their little piggy bank. Oh, my God. And then on top of that, tens of millions of dollars in the piggy bank are invested in the Cayman Islands and Bermuda and whatnot in offshore accounts. Sure. Sure. You can't. I mean, they're fabulous. This is the great irony, right? They hate capitalism, but boy, are they good at it. Yeah, that seems to be all of the socialist out there, you know, talking about let's tax the rich into oblivion. Just not me. Don't tax my group. And that's the thing here, is that they got this nonprofit status. They got a break from the IRS that, you know, you and I don't get as individual citizens.
And they got this according to the indictment, according to the allegations, by doing these awful, awful things. What have you heard on the IRS front? Does the IRS intend to look closely at this, as closely as the Justice Department has? Well, under the Trump administration, there are actually some signs that the IRS might finally pay attention to some of the egregious behavior in the sector. But, again, I wouldn't hold your breath. And in this case, what's nice is you have the Justice Department, which is a lot scarier than the IRS, actually. I mean, the main thing the IRS can do is fine you or take your tax exemption away. But, which, you know, that'd be significant, but compared to indictments under criminal charges, that's, you know, that's a lot scarier. Now, having said that, the... this is such a bizarre situation that it's not clear. You know, I mean, I wouldn't, I wouldn't bet the mortgage that if it goes to trial that the SPLC is convicted just because this is a, this is not normal lawsuits that are being dealt with here. This is some pretty weird stuff. You bet. Final question for you, Scott. I appreciate your time today. And that is you see leftist organizations rallying around this organization, the Southern Poverty Law Center. Groups like the Islamic-based care are crying about how unfair this investigation is. What about the politicians, though, that have used this hate tracker information, this hate group, the Law Center, how much money have they received from this group? Well, because the Southern Poverty is a 501C3 charity, quote, unquote, by law, they can't directly contribute to politicians. But, of course, that hate map, as you say, that's a huge in-kind contribution to the whole left, which explains why within hours of this... horrible scandal breaking. I mean, again, these people were funding the Klan and the Nazis that they claimed they were saving the rest of us from. Within hours, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer was on the floor of the Senate screeching that this is just ridiculous. Of course, he had no argument. All he could say is, this is simply ridiculous. Everybody knows these people are against the Klan.
Again, there's... Well, I hope that... Yeah, yeah. Well, it's hard to shame the shameless. We know that in politics, that's for sure. Much to come on this story and in this indictment, and we'd love to have you back on again as we continue to track it. Thanks so much. You bet. Scott Walter, President of Capital Research Center, they have done some fantastic work tracking the Southern Poverty Law Center and its myriad abuses over the years, and I can tell you they will be tracking the next chapter in the SPLC. Coming up next, let's delve into the health care system, a key part of that, a key cog hospitals, crying poverty over and over again. Is that true? Let's check in. There's an interesting new report out. We'll talk to John Graham, visiting fellow of the Paragon Health Institute. He wrote the report. We'll talk to him next on this edition of the Dan O'Donnell Show with yours, truly Matt Kittle. Stay with us.
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Paragon Health Institute's new report, the big hospital racket, government policy fuels the health care cost crisis, should open a lot of eyes about a $1.6 trillion per year hospital system that rewards consolidation, punishes efficiency, and financially crushes patients. That, all the while, industry claims it is barely surviving. John Graham is visiting fellow at Paragon and the author of the report, and he joins us now on the Dan O'Donnell Show with yours truly Matt Kittle. John, thank you so much for being here. Thank you, Matt, for having me. It's a fascinating report. I will note this, too, at the outset, a little shameless plug. John and I had a conversation about this on the Federalist Radio Hour earlier this week. You can find that podcast at the Federalist.com. We had a lot more time to delve into the finer points of this study. But, John, let's take a look at this, a $1.6 trillion per year hospital system, and we keep hearing over and over again from said hospital system. We need more money, federal government. We're just not getting enough through Medicare payments and Medicaid and all of that stuff. Help us, please. Your report suggests that's really... not the case? Well, it's not the case at all. And it's quite a coincidence. I just learned that next Tuesday, the House Ways and Means Committee in Washington, D.C. is going to have a hearing with some hospital CEOs. I don't know who they are. And that's exactly what they're going to be saying. We need more money. We need more money. We need more money. If you look at the amount of money we've given them over the last 60 years or so, it's incredible that anybody could complain. We don't have enough money from the taxpayer. Yeah, it is a lot of money, and yet we're seeing, as you note in your report, more consolidation, failure to make systems more efficient, leaning on government support. And how often do we see that for all kinds of things out there, all kinds of industries? But, John, let's not keep in mind. that a lot of these folks say they are nonprofit. They have that tax status anyway. It seems like a disconnect for a lot of Americans. That's right. And that's a good pivot. I was listening to your last segment. So I'm glad we're still talking about the nonprofit because there's some similarity here, but there's some differences here. You know, we're not talking about the same thing. But, yeah, they act like for-profit businesses, but over 80% of the community hospitals that people know are nonprofit. And, you know, Matt, I'm not from Wisconsin, so I did a little research to give a little local flavor. You've got a health system there called Aurora Health. Does that ring a bell?
It does, yes. Yeah. So they got taken over by Advocate Health in North Carolina, and there's another party in there called Atrium Health. So you're talking about it's headquartered in Charlotte, North Carolina now, very far away from Wisconsin communities. And I saw that in 2024, the CEO earned $26 million. And if you look at the top 10 nonprofits in the United States, nine of the top 10, the top CEO salaries are hospital systems. And the outlier is a professional golf association. But isn't that incredible? And when you think, Matt, and I don't know much about Wisconsin, but I'm visualizing mid-19th century, a bunch of religious sisters have come from Ireland or France or Canada. setting up a hospital for people with tuberculosis or something like that, people who have taken a vow of poverty to set up a hospital. And now they're all owned by these big conglomerates with multimillion-dollar earnings. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Immediately, when you talk about that, what comes to mind, what jumps to mind is the SMS system, the St. Mary's system, very much entrenched in Madison. And the same kind of backstory. They wouldn't recognize it, of course, today, the people who established that to, in one... One of the conversations we had, you talked about how they were set up to treat cholera. Well, we've taken care of cholera, but now people can't even afford to get to the hospital and pay for the damage thereafter. So, John, how do we go about fixing this mess? Because keep in mind, this is the hospital. It's a big part of it. But it's... It is integral to fixing the health care mess in general in America. Yeah, yeah. Well, it starts with government. You won't be surprised to learn. They kind of cause their problem because the government payment mechanisms, primarily Medicare and Medicaid, they allow hospitals to be inefficient, to be bloated, to have a lot of overhead, to build huge campuses. with expensive infrastructure, without any pressure like you have in other industries to lower the costs. One of the, I don't know if we discussed it previously, but if you look at hospitals will always say we have a lot of fixed costs. Well, that's true, but I looked at the prices of hospitals versus the prices of airplane travel over the last 30 years or so. Well, the price of airplane travel has dropped. I mean, airlines have fixed costs, you know. So you can lower your fixed costs if you are compelled to become efficient.
So there are reforms to Medicare. We propose reforms to Medicaid. One of the Medicare reforms that's a big one is, you know, I mentioned hospitals have big campuses. And, you know, I know I'm sounding really hard on the hospitals. I mean, we're not talking about Somali daycare sectors here. American hospitals provide world-class care. But it can be done at lower cost with equal or better quality. And a lot of things that you used to need inpatient admission for, you can now get done on an outpatient basis, right? And yet the hospitals get paid more for doing a... service, a procedure in the hospital, then an ambulatory surgery center or an orthopedic surgeon in his own practice, for example, can do it. Now, there's no reason for the taxpayers to be paying extra just to maintain the fixed cost of a campus when technology has advanced that's that we can do it in a lower cost setting. Yeah, and we keep seeing these massive construction projects over and over again. And it's curious to me, dealing with a family who had some very, very serious health problems. I thank God that his health situation has turned around at least for now. But, you know, we were dealing with over the winter difficult time getting into a hospital bed. There is definitely a disconnect there. John Graham. Visiting Fellow at Paragon, author of The New Report, The Big Hospital Racket, how government policy fuels the health care cost crisis. Final question for you, sir, on that front, we have in this country a huge debt, a huge health bill debt for the average American. We keep... dealing with that. You're talking about efficiencies. You're talking about all of these cost centers. But one of the big areas, and I know you noted in the report, has to be the change over the last three decades in particular of doctors, physicians, no longer working independently. How much does that have an impact? Because most of them are at hospitals now. Yes, exactly. And right now we've got over half, about 55% of physicians now employed by hospitals, which is a dramatic change over 20 years. And again, that takes advantage of the way Medicare and Medicaid pay. When the hospital becomes, sorry, when the physician becomes employed by the hospital, in many cases, that means Medicare or Medicaid will pay more. And there's really, it doesn't make a lot of sense. The hospitals say they become more efficient. I've been involved with, you know, I had a family member at a hospital. I couldn't understand the bail. I couldn't understand the paperwork that was flying around. The care was great, but the bureaucracy was overwhelming. And the loss of the independent physician and the small group, you know, maybe two, three, four doctors setting up practice together, that's a real loss to our system. And again, if we reform the government payment mechanisms,
we can go back to that and have much more community-based health care. Are you folks at Paragon Health Institute going to be at that committee meeting, the congressional committee meeting on Tuesday? I ask because I sure am hoping that lawmakers are asking the right questions and holding these folks accountable when they cry poverty again. I think they are. I mean, we're not going to be there as a witness. It's all hospital CEOs as witnesses, which is great. And I'm hoping and confident that the committee, the majority especially will hold them to account. And one reason we focus on the hospitals, Matt, there's a lot of blame to go around. I'm not saying the drug companies or the insurance companies are doing great jobs either. But the hospitals have a unique ability to scare politicians, right? We're the largest employer in the district, right? We got the emergency department, right? So they can scare every politician in the country the way that insurers cannot and drug manufacturers cannot. So that's really why we really have to start holding them accountable. And I hope this hearing on Tuesday will be a right step in that direction. Follow the money is always the prudent advice I can give, $26 million for the hospital CEO. You mentioned before. How many hundreds of millions of dollars going into lobbying for hospitals for more money for the status quo on a system that feels to taxpayers rather rigged against them? That's not the area, as you mentioned, but this is a big one. Yeah, we saw $155 million last year on lobbying, which makes them the largest industry's lobbying. And they're not for deregulation. They're not lobbying for more freedom from government interference. They're lobbying for more regulation to protect their incumbency, and they're lobbying for more of your money. I think you said it during our conversation in the Federalist Radio Hour, but for those who believe we don't have socialized medicine at this point, think again, all of these numbers and this issue in particular really drives home that point. John, thank you so much. Keep up the good work, and we'll continue to follow this story. I know you will too. Thank you. You bet. John Graham, visiting fellow at Paragon Health Institute, author of the new report, The Big Hospital Rackett, how government policy fuels the health care cost crisis. You can find that report on the web, the Paragon Health Institute's website. We'll take a quick break. We'll stay on the big money theme. Couple of points. We'll give you a chance to win $1,000. Remind you of that keyword coming up momentarily, and then we'll delve into the million-dollar baby. How much is Rebecca Cook, the far-lefty candidate for the third district congressional seat? How much is she raking in in campaign contributions? And who's paying for this? Well...
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You're not focusing on your election? You're focusing on actually trying to do something in Washington, D.C., to cut waste out of government and to make the country safe again? Hmm. Anyway, in a video shared by Charlotte Scott of Spectrum News on the social platform X, Derrick Van Orden said on the Capitol steps that a Democratic-backed redistricting an initiative that passed in Virginia on Tuesday was completely disingenuous. Now, Derek, I don't know why you would say that. I mean, all the Democrats were trying to do was rip up their Constitution, rewrite it so that they could rig the congressional maps and take a 10-1 advantage into Congress in terms of Democrat representation over Republicans. I'm not getting this where you're thinking this is disingenuous. Of course, I jest, because we'll talk about this in the 4 o'clock hour as well. It was a complete and utter lie. How often have we heard here in the state of Wisconsin from Democrats? Big time Democrats. Eric Holder. Barack Obama, the patron saint of the Democrats, about how wicked gerrymandering is. Have you seen the state of Illinois, fellas? California? Well, they just did the same thing. They just had a ballot issue getting rid of their constitution so they could get rid of their, their, um, the pride of election integrity, at least as they see it. an independent commission that would draw up their congressional maps. He said, no, we can't do that. No, Trump has told Republicans in Texas, maybe do a mid-decade redistricting, pick up five more seats. Yeah, that all is true. California responded. It did it. And then instead of saying, well, maybe there's a disconnect here between what we've been shaming. Republicans, or at least attempting to for years about gerrymanders. Well, anyway, we'll talk more about that coming up. I hope you will stick with us. It's the J. Wait, hold on. It is the Dan O'Donnell show here and now with yours truly Matt Kittle. Stay with us. Drew McIntyre here from WWE. Wheeling the Claymore can be a life of chaos. When I'm not dominating in the ring, Chumba Casino is how this warrior takes a wee break. With hundreds of online social games and new weekly releases, there's always something fresh to try. And those daily boosts, next level. Even my free time feels like Valhalla. So when life feels like a battle, kick up your feet, have some fun, and let's chumba.
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It's an estimated $118 billion industry therapy, that is. The mental health treatment field is a big, big business. It's also highly addictive. In its forthcoming book, Therapy Nation, how America got hooked on therapy and why it's left us more anxious and divided, therapist Jonathan Alpert raises the alarm from inside the house that Americans have become. overly reliant on therapy culture to their collective detriment. Jonathan will join us once again a little bit later on this hour. Speaking of that, can we do a mental health check though now from, yeah, would you mind? Can we do that from Sarah Godluski, the... The Secretary of State, Wisconsin, she was really upset about the weather last week. Let's see if she's okay now. Republicans say we don't have climate change, but this is gold ball-sized hail in my front yard. This is not normal, and we can't keep ignoring our environment. Well, something not normal there, Sarah. It is your insane panic, pandering to a leftist crowd that you would like to have vote for you in your next election. So it appears that Sarah still has a great deal of anxiety about hail in Wisconsin in April. That's right. Hail in Wisconsin in April. This is not normal. Do you live in Wisconsin, Sarah? How long have you lived in Wisconsin? That's the question, I think. As you're serving as Secretary of State, are you doing so from Vermont? I'm just curious. Anywho, interesting policy changes we've seen with Make America Healthy Again and a... A Congress now, and certainly a president, saying, okay, enough is enough if we are going to send out billions upon billions of dollars in food stamps, in SNAP benefits, you're going to get food. You're going to get your staples. You're going to get what you need. You're going to get what you need to eat to survive. The junk food, however, is gone? And man, oh, man, is that ticking some people off? So the question that comes up now in states like Florida, where they have cut off the spigot to the sodas, the big gulps, The hostess cupcakes and fruit pies and the big bag of chips, the funions, it's all gone when it comes to the EBT. And people who have relied on this system for so much of this crap over the years really, really upset.
About that. A little audio, I think, from a woman in Florida. I believe it was earlier this week in Florida, the restrictions on junk food when in place for the SNAPEBT benefits. This is what the young woman had to say about it all. Oops, here we go. That's, you know, that's wrong. What am I to do? You know, that's wrong. Somebody needs to do something about this. I know it's affecting everybody. You know, I eat healthy. I love my fruit, you know, I love my sweets too. Love the sweets, too. Let's get the beginning of that because I think we missed it. No sodas. You can't get coffee creamer. No. You can't even get ice cream. That's, you know, that's wrong. What am I to do? You can't get coffee creamer? Come on. Wow. How draconian is that? When you order your big cup of coffee and you don't want to drink the actual coffee, you want to just load it up with as much sugar and cream and crap as you can get into it. And now they're saying, now they're saying you can't get your coffee creamer in there. It's terrible. Absolutely terrible. The same woman, I was complaining that she can no longer get her Arizona tea in the big jug that she has in her hand. And... I do have a recommendation, however, for those who are feeling the pinch from this new policy where we see, and we're seeing it in several states. And, of course, the federal government is moving in this direction as well to say, okay, you need help for a while. You can obviously get food stamps if... you meet certain conditions we talked last week i think on this very show about how abused that system is to begin with and a lot of people who are making a lot of money and hold a lot of assets are getting food stamps So the whole system is broken as we know it. But at the same time, the free ride for junk food is over. And so you have people like this woman asking, this is unfair. What do I do now? And I have a suggestion for you if you're asking that question. Get a job. I know. It sounds awful, doesn't it? It does.
Sometimes work is hard. Sometimes growing up is hard. It's difficult. It is. It is for everybody. But you've got to do it. And if you want your crap, you want your coffee creamer, you want your Frito Lays, you want your thousand grand bar. 100, whatever it's called these days. The prices are going up. You know, it's inflation. It's 100 grand, that's right. You want your, you know, your snickers. You want to be satisfied? Well, here's how you can do it. You can get a job and make money and pay for that and not ask the taxpayer to do that anymore. We'll be glad to help you again for a while because the welfare system is not or should not be. Let me make sure that I'm correct on that front. It should not be a lifetime experience. It should be a transitional period to get individuals back into the flow, the work, force to get them off the taxpayer dole and to make sure that the taxpayer isn't paying for people who are able-bodied and can go to work. Sure, we all of our suites. We all have a good bag of cool ranch Doritos. But should we be asking the taxpayer to buy us that stuff? Listen, I am a junk food connoisseur. I'm a junk food junkie. I have, in my 50 years on this earth, eaten a lot of stuff that Robert F. Kennedy Jr.., his head would explode. Although he's eaten some things that, frankly, have concerned me as well. What was the goat thing? Anyway, I think the vast majority of Americans are... Of the mind that, yes, if you need help, we're a caring country and we're going to be there to help to get you from point A to point B. That doesn't mean we will be spending our hard-earned money so that you can enjoy a Twinkie or a Susie Q. Just as an aside, I think I brought this up not too long ago. But I was absolutely delighted walking in to my local convenience store, and I'm looking for a little sugar, a little sugar infusion.
And I go over to the hostess section and thinking, yeah, I'm tired of the cupcakes, yeah, the ho-hoes, all right, fine. I wish they had a Susie Q. And I look down and there it is. The Susie Q was back in a single packet. They don't put them in the big packet with the two anymore. But that really does sum up. What joy is to me. It's a 50-something year old man. I discovered that they're bringing the Susie Q back. Maybe they had it all along. I don't know. I just hadn't seen it. And I was thinking over the years, these are the things I think about. Man, why don't they bring the Susie Q back? Wouldn't that be something? Or I'd had a cheesy potato. that it made years ago, you microwaved it. It had cheese, it had broccoli, it had peppers on it, and that cheese would congeal. It was an absolute abuse of the human body, the arteries in particular, but it was so good. And I have begged or Ida to bring that back for the better part of the last quarter century. Can't find it anywhere. These are the joy. So I get it. I understand the love for some junk food. But I'm not asking you to pay for my junk food. I'm not asking my fellow taxpayer to pay for my junk food. Therein lies the difference. Final point to all of this. This is why the fourth estate is an absolute crack house. Media covered this story. This loss of junk food for food stamp recipients, the new restrictions, like this was the new Jim Crow law. This was Jim Crow 2.0 to keep people away from their ding-dongs.
I will tell you, that was sage advice when I was a young man. And it still holds today. That said, the media coverage there in Florida was just this, oh, and Cynthia says she can't get her sugary crap anymore. And that's not fair. Must be those evil people in the Ron DeSantis administration and those horrible conservatives in Washington, D.C. That's the way the tone of the story was. And it was this victim story of this woman who's standing out in the middle of the street. She's got half-empty bottles of soda and iced tea, sweet tea, and she's complaining that she no longer gets junk food in food stamps. Just one of myriad examples why media in this country at large in general is just so out of touch with America. Coming up next, we'll get into the power of language. An interesting piece in the Federalist today about the Virginia referendum, the redistricting referendum held this week that's going to give Democrats outsized power in that state and potentially control of the House. come November. We're going to delve into the control of language, the news speak crowd from the left, how they've used it, how they dominate it, how they use it to control, to gain power, to consolidate power. We'll delve into all of that. And we'll get into the list, a little dictionary, if you will. of the many words the left has used in recent years that sound nice, really nice, but are ultimately not what they are advertised to be. We'll do that coming up next. It's the Dan O'Donnell Show, the Friday edition with yours truly. Matt Kittle, stay with us. Hey guys, it's Ryan. I want to tell you about my new pastime, Chumba Casino. Chumba Casino has been around for over a decade delivering the most fun you can have online. Play social casino style games for free, anytime, anywhere. So sign up at chumbacino.com. No purchase necessary. PGW. Boy, we're prohibited by law. See terms and conditions. 21 plus. These days, it's getting harder and harder to trust what you're seeing. Who made it? Is it real? But with I heart, everything you hear is guaranteed human. That's why 78% of listeners trust their favorite radio hosts product recommendations. And if you own or manage a business here or need to drive sales, that trust goes a long way in creating your future customers. Make iHeartMedia a part of your 2026 plan today. Call 844-844-I-Hart. Again, that's 844-844-I-Hart.
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Well, it is Friday. Feels good just saying it. Weather's cooperating. Sarah Godluski doesn't have to worry about getting hit in the head with golf ball-sized hail. Maybe that's what actually happened, though. Maybe that would explain a few things. But it is Friday. The weekend is just about here. And you know what that means, don't you, Dave Michaels? Of course you do. Happy hour. Yeah, I consider this happy hour. It's time for a little Fonsie Friday Wisdom. Cunningham. May, Fons? How are you doing? Pretty good. I want to tell you that I think it's... What? My kid nephew's dating your kid's sister. Oh, he's your nephew? Yeah, I didn't know that. Yeah, he's got a lot of class. You're really gonna like him. You're gonna let him come around and hang out for a little while, huh? His name is Spike. Yeah, I thought his name was Raymond. You're trying to live that down. There you go. A little Fonzie Friday wisdom for you. Oh, that was a classic. You remember that one? Spike rides up on his bicycle and his leather coat along the Fonzie. Smoking Lucky Strikes and having a schlitz. It's all in Milwaukee. And Spike is dating Joni. Well, Mr. C, Mrs. C, not real happy, but we learn the gentle side of Spike. Just like over the course of happy days, we learn the gentle side of Fonzie. And all I have to say about it all is, you know what I'm talking about. Perhaps as we move along this Friday, we'll get you some more. Friday, Fonzie Wisdom. But now you've heard... You've heard the old story about controlling the language, controlling the narrative, controlling politics. That is exactly what we saw. The latest example, in a long line of examples, of the left, trying to commandeer the language in the American political debate, the societal debate as they go about trying to re-engineer society, all of that. part and parcel to what we saw in Virginia's redistricting referendum earlier this week. Philip K. Dick, which is a fun name to say, but he's also a tremendous author in his time, understood the power of words like few others. He said this, the basic tool for the manipulation of reality. is the manipulation of words. If you control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use the words. Like I said, just ask the Virginia Democrats who won a redistricting referendum this week with language that would make George Orwell's News Speak crowd proud.
You'll find this piece, by the way, at the Federalist. The Federalist.com. I like this reporter. I like this kid. He's got it going on. Well, you know, Marxists have been manipulating words for a long time. Their spirit guide, 20th century radical Saul Olinsky gave the left its marching orders in his 1971 Communist Manifesto Rules for Radicals. Olinsky advised he who controls the language controls the masses. And again, that is exactly what we saw with the leftist who now control Virginia government, including the Commonwealth's artificial moderate governor, Abigail Spanberger. The language on their ballot question seeking to change the state constitution so Democrats can dominate congressional representation in the old dominion is truly a masterpiece in manipulation. That's especially so for Abigail Spanberger and the left's patron saint Barack Obama. both who have spent their political careers declaring gerrymandering detrimental to our democracy. But not this time. No, see, it's different this time. This is what the ballot question read. Now, this ballot question in Virginia asked to...
amend the state's commonwealth's constitution changing a an amendment that was approved by Virginia voters just six years before in 2020, heralded by Abigail Spanberger at the time, Barack Obama and the vast majority of the left as just this wonderful, positive reinforcement of democracy. And at that point, Virginian said, we've had enough with political maps, with politicians making the maps, you know, the whole notion of, to the victor go the spoils kind of thing that a lot of states have. Virginia did. They said, no, we're going to have an independent commission. We're going to have, like Tony Evers, right? Tony wanted an independent people's commission. which he pulled out of Mao's little red book. And it was going to be fair, right? Now we're finally going to have some fair maps. And, of course, we know that was a load of crap. Because Tony Evers is not only the palest, but one of the biggest partisans, left-wing partisans on the face of the earth. At the very least, he has been an empty vessel for all of the leftist stuff that has been poured into him and out through his policies. But they did. Virginia had this independent commission that was supposed to fairly create maps that would look more like the state. Because here's the deal. Now, Virginia voters. No, let me back that up a little bit. Virginia voters in a small portion of the state, the bubble that surrounds Washington, D.C., the larger counties, populated counties in that area, and then a few others down a little south of that, they... they are as blue as blue gets. And you can imagine why. I mean, we're talking about the government jobs. Big government is, that's the heartbeat of that area. And so, perhaps it came as no surprise. The left really turned these folks out in 2025 in November of last year. And Abigail Spanberger, who again, campaigned as a moderate, you know, that's kind of like, who is it, Sarah McBride, the trans representative from Delaware? Abigail Spanberger asserting that she was a moderate in last year's election is like Sarah McBride asserting that he's a woman.
All of that said, it was a big win, and the left and the media painted it as a big, big rebuke of Donald Trump and Republicans, and oh, this will chasing them. Virginia leftists got out to vote, very motivated to vote, of course, because they were losing their jobs in big government. So they had a lot on the line, to be sure. All of that said, Virginia remains a 5347 state, maybe 5446 state. It's very purple if Republicans can figure out a way to stop stepping all over themselves and get low propensity voters out to the polls. So you had a big election. Last year, the leftists were in control, and the same people that kept saying over and over again, we need to take politics out of mapmaking, out of redistricting, out of this congressional maps process. And they did. The voters agreed, and they passed this referendum, changed the Constitution to have this independent commission, and then all of a sudden they decided, well, hell, we could get, we could pick up four seats for Virginia Democrats in the House. We could take the House back. Given the very razor-thin margin that Republicans have in the House of Representatives, Virginia alone, if we got four, if we had a 10-1, advantage in the Virginia congressional delegation. The Democrats are like, yeah, we can do that. And all of this, of course, was the pretext was that dang Trump. He's asking Texas, Deep Red Texas, to redistrict, and they went about doing it, and they're going to get five seats and all of this sort of thing. And then California and Gavin Newsom jumped in, well, over our dead body, and we're going to get this done. We're going to change the Constitution. You'll see. And they talk about how Trump led this deal. And they forget that they tried to pull this stuff in Ohio. A few months before the whole Texas thing went down. So, again, standing's a problem. But ultimately, what we have here is... Well, certainly there are court challenges to this Virginia sitch. But you have a referendum that now is, we'll see if it's functional, but it will give Democrats a very clear advantage in Virginia. And the language of that referendum. is really a point of concern for a lot of folks. And the ballot question was this. Should the Constitution of Virginia be amended to allow the General Assembly to temporarily adopt new congressional districts to restore fairness in the upcoming elections, while ensuring Virginia's standard redistricting process resumes for all future redistricting after the 2030 census?
In other words, this is just a temporary deal while we restore fairness in the upcoming elections. Holding a 10-1 advantage in a state, a purple state, doesn't sound very fair, does it? But that's what the language stated on the ballot. You know, I hate unfairness. I won't stand for it in our elections. I can tell you, I was livid when liberals rig the 2020 election to make an unpopular dottering old fool president. That sure seemed unfair to me. Wait, what? Restoring fairness, at least to the Democratic Party, actually means rewriting Virginia's congressional district maps to steal four house seats. Again, likely giving Democrats a 10-to-one representation advantage and the inside track to taking back control of the House of Representatives in the midterms? Well, that isn't fair. But the ballot language, sir, sounds fair, particularly to people who aren't paying attention. And so now what you have is a judge in a Virginia County who has said, in a ruling the day after the election, man, this thing was absolutely rigged. The process was rigged. There are all kinds of problems with how quickly they threw this together, all kinds of problems with the process, just the legislative process alone. And yes, yes, the judge said, in Taswell County, Circuit Judge Jack Hurley said, that the rush job referendum was illegal on several counts, including the crafting of a, quote, flagrantly misleading ballot question that, quote, did not accurately describe the proposed amendment. Yes, I think a lot of folks would agree. And I think if there is honesty left. Among the left, they would have to agree as well. They won't, of course. It reminds me of, you remember the big lie from dead Nevada Democrat, Harry Reid, at the time quite alive and at the time Senate Majority Leader. But he told Republican presidential candidate, or he talked about candidate at the time, Republican presidential candidate, Mitt Romney. He said to anybody who would listen that Mitt Romney failed to pay his taxes for the last 10 years. Last 10 years. And everyone said, oh, my goodness. Oh, this Mr. Rich guy. Mr. Rich Mitt Romney. And that became one of the talking points of the election, Mitt Romney. in honesty, thankfully, lost, although we got stuck with Obama for another four years. But he lost in no small part because of that huge lie. It wasn't true what Harry Reid said. When he was asked about it, years later, Reed had no regrets. This is what he told, Fiend CNN Dana Bash.
When asked, do you have any regrets about your lie? He said, Mitt Romney didn't win, did he? And so that's what we have here in the push for power from the Democrats. It is the constant manipulation of language. And I think you know examples of that. As a matter of fact, let's go over a few. These, consider this a little dictionary of some of the flagrantly misleading terms leftists have forced into the lexicon. and a translation of words and phrases that sound nice, but in reality are not. Like anti-racism, which is, in actuality, racism. Equity, as the left likes to use it, is inequality. Inclusion? Now, the left has an idea about it, but what it is in actual reality is exclusion of those the left considers privileged. Critical theory? A shortcut to thinking? A license for Marxism. Critical race theory? Racism on steroids. Affirmative action, discrimination. Threat to democracy. Threat to Democrat Party power. How about climate change? That is the all-encompassing term from the left. What it really ultimately means is money grabbed. The oppressed, left loves to use that term, what it really means is lazy people, stupid people, bitter people. Don't get me started about birthing person, inseminated person. Pregnant people. That is a term used by idiots who failed biology. And then there's Latinx. Remember this beauty? It's a condom-sounding name for Hispanics invented by white liberals and loathed by Hispanics. There are more. Certainly a lot more. And that's what the left has done with this language. They've taken it over. And then they use it the way and sell it the way a marketer sells something. Except what they're selling is a bad bill of goods. We'll take a quick break. And coming up next, an interesting conversation about an interesting new book. I think this will shine some light on a lot of things. The book is called Therapy Nation, How America Got Hooked on Therapy and Why It's Left Us, More Anxious and Divided. Author Jonathan Albert joins us straight ahead on the Dan O'Donnell Show with your old Radio Amigo, Matt Kittle.
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That would be a turnoff to me as well. It would make me jump to the next number in the phone book if I was just cold calling therapist. But, you know, the numbers are amazing. And you go through this in your book. Demand for mental health services soared with the pandemic and 61 million Americans, more than one in five adults now. now have some form of mental illness with prevalence among adolescents rising sharply. Jonathan, that is no surprise given what happened with everyone locked down, and in some states disproportionately so, but still. A lot of social issues, all of those sorts of things. We're talking about an $118 billion industry annually. The mental health treatment field is big business, but as you note, it's highly addictive as well. How so? It sure is, and you're absolutely right in that COVID did create a situation where people were isolated, feeling anxious, feeling depressed, and there was probably a genuine need for therapy and therapist at that time. But we are well-past COVID, and mental health care is more accessible than ever before. We have more people in therapy than ever before. Yet, as you indicate it, rates of depression and anxiety are higher than ever. So you have to wonder. Is the profession actually helping people or are people sicker than ever? So it's a bit of a complex issue. And from where I sit, as a therapist, I have to say that my profession, I believe, is partially responsible for this. If you go back to 2012 when I wrote an op-ed piece for the New York Times in therapy forever, enough already. I talked about how people go into therapy. They go endlessly. They go for years, and they just don't get better. And part of that is we have therapists who just nod their heads, validate the patient, and tell them to come back next week and do it all over again. So that doesn't help people. Good therapy will provide... patients with insight and equip them with tools and skills to actually get better and graduate from therapy. But that's not what we have today in most of mainstream therapy culture. And then the other issue, and I talk a lot about this in my book, Therapy Nation, is therapy is just everywhere. Therapy culture is taking over, and people in many ways think it's like... stylish or fashionable to have a mental health disorder and you know we can't we just can't escape it yeah no you're absolutely right and that's what i that's what i was going to ask you about how much of this is trying to be like the cool kids i know that sounds it's it seems weird but i have seen this on a number of fronts i have seen this in for instance
The left is on the hook for this almost completely. And that is the whole explosion of what it truly is is gender dysphoria. It's this whole trans movement in America. We did not say that, not to say there wasn't this kind of mental illness. There wasn't. mental illness in this field before, but we have absolutely seen an explosion of this really over the last 10 years in this country. We have, and gender dysphoria is a very serious and complex issue, and it's not something that should change according to the day of the week. Gender should not change according to the day of the week, and it needs to be looked at very, very carefully, but we have... People in my profession, therapists will just validate anything that comes out of a patient's mouth. If they come in and say, I think I'm a female or I think I'm a boy or I think I'm unsure, that really needs to be explored at length and not just validate it so that the person can then go on and transition or take more drastic measures. But my profession is really responsible for affirming everything. I heard a story of a patient who, not my patient, who was in love with a tree. He had a tree in his yard. He was in love. He didn't just think it was a beautiful tree. He actually was in love with it. He would sit with it, spend time with it, and who knows what else he did with that tree. But the therapist would just affirm it. Well, it's okay. Everyone needs something to love. If I ever had a patient that came in like that, I would certainly confront that type of thinking, but we don't have that in my profession these days. No, that's an odd story, but unfortunately, stories like that are becoming more and more part of this industry we're talking about. I'll tell you what, though, you want to take care of a patient like that, just make sure a little poison Kay Ivey grows around that oak tree. That might take the trick. It's more than heartbreaking is all I'll say about that. But no, how does a therapist in good conscience say, oh, yeah, that's perfectly acceptable, normal, healthy behavior to fall in love with a tree? And that brings up the whole spectrum of, you know, different orientations and different identities. And so many people want to identify as something else. We have... We have a guy in this state, an old fellow who is in the executive mansion, in the executive wing, he's identifying over the last nearly eight years as a governor, and we still can't figure that out. But we have so many people.
So many people who are just, you know, they're not healthy and they're being encouraged to continue to be not healthy. Why is that and how do we stop that? Well, you're right. And these identities, whether it's identifying as a cat, dog, or one of the 72 genders out there, it's not healthy. It's really creating a situation where people are actually afraid of using the wrong pronoun with someone. I mean, I've heard countless cases from patients of mine who talk about how they... misgendered someone and they were reprimanded for that and you can't expect someone who's maybe known someone for years or decades and that person changes their gender to the person can't be expected to always get it right so there needs to be a little leeway and flexibility with this But, you know, therapists are, I'd say over the past decade or so, maybe 15 years have been taught just to affirm at all cost and validate at all costs. Instead of actually challenging people and confronting people, if you're participating in bad behavior, whether it's drug use, shoplifting, abuse of any type. That's behavior that needs to be confronted, not just validate it. And, you know, part of it is we have celebrities who in governments that are okay with bad behavior. You know, in New York, where I am, you're allowed to steal, I believe, up to $800 worth of items. So it just creates this environment where bad behavior is allowed. Yes, and that bad behavior, of course, affects so many different layers of society in so many different ways. Therapy Nation How America got hooked on therapy and why it's left us more anxious and divided is the book. It is set for release on May 19th. I should note that's from Harper Susan Collins. The therapist and author is Jonathan Alpert joining us for a few more minutes. So you are pushing back against this, and thank God you are. I think most of us would appreciate that fact. You're pushing back against this. automatic switch of affirmation. You know, if you're old enough to remember Al Sharpton on the old SNL, Saturday Night Live, where he used to do the skit where he'd look in the mirror, he was kind of an effeminate character, he'd be in his sweater and he'd be talking to himself in the mirror, I'm good enough, and dang it, people like me. And we laughed at that.
But that seems to be the state of American therapy, mental health treatment a lot of times in America. What are the mental health boards doing about this? They have to see this as a problem. Well, I'm not so sure they do. And I will say that the mental health training program, so major universities are part of the problem. So we have graduate schools that will teach. students, a system where there's the oppressed and the oppressor, and that's the model in which you view patients through. And if that's the way you view patients, you're not going to help them because you're labeling them right from the start. And that's not usually why people seek treatment. In my experience, people seek treatment for depression, anxiety, workplace issues, relationship issues, not because they feel like they're an oppressor or oppressed. Yes. And, you know, that's, I think. That concept that you talk about, the oppressed and the oppressor, is at the core, at the heart of critical theory, which the left, the Marxist left, has infused into every walk of educational experience. It's in our colleges at all different levels. It's now in our public school systems, has been for a long time. I think critical theory has been one of the worst things that has happened to America. and quite frankly, to science and health and the basic understanding of biology. Is that what it's going to take to get this just nonsense, this critical theory nonsense out of our systems in higher education to clean up this mess? Well, it seems a little less popular than it was a few years ago, but it still is very present in my profession. I will say I'm encouraged by knowing at least a handful of therapists that are like me and they don't subscribe to this nonsense and they look at a patient for who they are and the mental health issues that the patient may bring into the office and they're not automatically categorizing people. and seeing just their color or their gender identity. So, yeah, we'll see. I mean, one patient at a time is how we fix this problem, and hopefully training programs start to see the light and recognize that this isn't ultimately helping people. And, you know, therapists need to make some changes here in both how they practice and how they're trained. Well, indeed, final question for you, because it is in the title of the book, A Therapy These Days. Now, again, I want to point out, there are good folks in this business, and they are doing good stuff by their patients. But there's plenty, as you note in your book, that's wrong with this situation. But you're saying that it's making people more anxious, and that seems to...
absolutely go against that oath about first do no harm, right? Yeah, and what's happening here is therapists are pathologizing ordinary everyday occurrences. So let's say you had a conflict with a colleague. That doesn't mean the colleague is toxic or the workplace is toxic. Or let's say you've had a fight with your spouse. That doesn't mean you're traumatized. But, you know, that's what's happening. Therapists are very, very quick to pathologize or label someone's ordinary negative experience as a psychological problem as opposed to just... dealing with the ups and downs of life. And that's very much part of our human experience. And not everything needs to be pathologized, but we have labels and diagnoses being thrown around if you have difficulty staying organized. That doesn't necessarily mean that you have ADHD. If you had a bad day, that doesn't mean you're depressed. The tendency lately is for therapists to jump to these crazy wild diagnoses based on just a singular experience that a patient may have. Yeah, no doubt. And to me, what I have seen over the last several years is one of the biggest problems. There are too many damn safe spaces out there. You know, it's kind of like when you're a kid, you go to school, you're exposed to all of the germs, and you build up a tolerance to the colds and all of these sorts of things. I think the same thing has to be part of balanced mental health. You're going to have to deal with challenges in your life. You can't be bubble-wrapped emotionally. of this is the safe spaces, the social, emotional learning nonsense. I mean, there are a lot of people who have made a lot of money damaging a lot of people. I guess that to me is the bottom line. And this book, I think, gets to the heart of that. Jonathan, thank you so much for your time. Thank you, Matt. I appreciate your time. Look forward to speaking again. Yes, absolutely. Jonathan Alpert. He is author and therapist of the upcoming book, Therapy Nation, how America got hooked on therapy and why it's left us more anxious and divided. From Harper Susan Collins, it comes out on May 19th. Coming up in just a few moments, we'll remind you of the keyword once again. See if you can be another $1,000 winner, and then we'll continue to track the left. D.I. Cops are making DEI cops, I should say, are making cities so much more dangerous. We'll give you Exhibit A straight ahead on the Dan O'Donnell Show with Matt Kittle.
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going to be drafted again today. I don't think they fully understand that not only will they be charged with playing football next fall, they also have been drafted into the Army, which I think is, I don't know if the fine print was there. Some of them will be heading off to the Persian Gulf. Others will be staying here at home and helping the base efforts. I'm kidding, of course. That truly, that's not the kind of draft we're talking about. It's a football draft, not a military draft. Besides, we don't have that anymore. Yes. All right. Oh, real quick. Let's see if we can make another winner. Joe from Milwaukee was our winner this afternoon in the nationwide spring green cash contest. Your keyword this hour is deposit. D-E-P-O-S-I-T deposit. Take that keyword. To this fine radio station's website, enter the word deposit where it tells you to do so. It's very intuitive. You'll see it right on the website. And you could be $1,000 richer this hour in our spring green cash contest you have until 55 minutes past the hour. To enter that keyword, and that keyword again is deposit. Let's track the left, see what's going on in Leftyland and lots of... Lots of crazy stuff, as you might imagine. This is a story, though, that I think captured a lot of attention last year, made national headlines from Cincinnati because of just how brutal this particular crime was. And at the time I remember, this... If you recall, there was, there was like a bar fight that spilled out into the streets in Cincinnati at some bar. And there were a lot of back and forth and, you know, the usual stuff. Well, then this, this kind of, this brawl breaks out. And just a whole throng of people come over and they just beat the living. You know what out of two people. There were racial implications. The crowd that the mob that was doing the beating, the members of that crowd are black. The members, the two who were beaten badly are white, but the video went viral. You saw these two people being stomped on after they're down. They're just brutally kicked and punched and all of that. Well, there was a lot of attention. In that particular case, the spotlight was on the Cincinnati...
Police chief, Teresa Thietje, I believe, was her name, is her name. Well, Chief Teresa, a lot of folks in Cincinnati law enforcement, and there was certainly a lot of commentary outside of Cincinnati, about how this first woman police chief, in Cincinnati had over her short tenure, kind of gotten a reputation for being a woke champion. All kinds of woke DEI policies from someone characterized from law enforcement officials on the inside in Cincinnati as a DEI police chief. In other words, she got her position of authority because she was a woman, not that she was qualified to do the job, but she fit a particular identity that the leftist on the council, the hiring commission, the law enforcement committee, whatever. They said, okay, let's do this. That was the allegation. Well, we've learned a lot over the last year. Fox News reporting today that Cincinnati's now former police chief, once sued by subordinates for alleged discrimination against white male officers, has been fired. Apparently, the city council that approved this hire a few years back got so disgusted by the weakness in leadership, and that is a kind way to put it, that they said enough is enough. The city manager had had enough in Cincinnati. The termination announcement says Teresa Thighi was begged. To put more officers on the streets during crime-riddled summer, during a crime-riddled summer last year, she was removed from her role. As the city's top law enforcement officer on Thursday, after only about three years on the job, she was a police officer in Cincinnati for 35 years. And so her supporters have said, well, you know, she's a longtime police officer. No wonder she got the job. She's very familiar with all of the stuff and, you know, all of the, the plaudits for the first woman police chief. But the... City manager, also a woman, Cheryl Long, made Fiji's termination announcement, and this was pretty direct and to the point. I recognized Chief Fiji's more than 35 years of service to the Cincinnati Police Department and to the city. At the same time, after completing this review, it...
It becomes clear that a change in leadership is necessary for the department moving forward, Long said in a statement to Fox News Digital. In the scathing termination letter, Long blasted Fiji for what she viewed as ineffective leadership, poor communication, including failing to adhere to a summer anti-violence plan. So what we're learning is that particular violent incident that went viral with the mob just absolutely beating these victims, that that was one of many incidents and ultimately the responsibility was on the police chief because she refused to put more officers in these troubled areas. The city manager in the termination letter wrote, as just one example, you admitted you did not agree with the city's summer safety plan, which included more police coverage in the urban core. And you admitted that I begged you to fill the police work details called for in the summer plan. So basically you have the police chief being asked to provide... Public safety, which I believe is the absolute foundation of that job and said, go pound sand, city manager. I'm not putting more cops on the street in these violent areas. Forget it. I don't have to listen to you. Cincinnati found itself under national scrutiny last August, as I noted, after a viral beatdown in the city's downtown left a woman with neurological damage. That's how badly this woman was beaten. In the early morning hours of July 26th, the confrontation outside the love nightclub, perhaps not the most fitting name. located on the corner of 4th and elm street in the city's downtown business district led to a horrific beatdown that was captured on video and i think i saw that video a dozen times and it didn't get any better any time seven people were finally arrested and charged with crimes related to the beating long the city manager also ripped Fiji for two shootings in the Fountain Square area in the city's downtown last October, saying she failed to provide leadership in response to two shootings. You further admitted, as the termination letter goes, that on October 14th, the day after the second shooting, you choose to go to a play rather than attend a public safety town hall. Okay, so basically what you have here is in Cincinnati, you have citizens saying, what the hell? Where are the police? Where's the police department? People are being shot. They're being murdered. They're being trampled over, stomped, beaten badly. And we want that to stop.
So they have a town hall meeting, and of course you have the city council members and the city manager there. And the one person who should be there to answer all of those questions is at a play. She's watching Hamilton when she should be explaining what the hell happened here. As a final note, in May of last year, four white male officers filed a federal civil rights lawsuit against the police chief, who was the city's first female, police chief, as noted, saying that they were passed over for promotions and passed over for preferred assignments because of their race or sex. Defendants, intentional and discriminatory. practices in assigning lieutenants to preferred assignments has disproportionately favored non-white males and or females without legitimate non-discriminatory justification thereby denying plaintiffs equal employment opportunities. We've seen a lot of that happen over the last several years on Wisconsin police forces and elsewhere. And it is all in the name of making sure that the priority is not public safety. It's not going after criminals and getting criminals off the street. It is to check a box in the diversity, equity, and inclusion kingdom.
And that is absolutely ridiculous, and it's putting lives at risk. A final point on that. And this, I think, should hit liberals where they live. It won't. But you've seen an exodus of a number of Democrats, either from the party or from politics, leadership itself, because they are fed up. And that is exactly apparently what the deal is with Haven Shoemaker, state attorney for Maryland's Carroll County, said he was absolutely fed up with the insane, ultra-progressive takeover of everything in that county. He had some interesting things to say to Fox News Digital. Again, this is a state attorney. This is a prosecutor who has... said enough is enough. First, the bottom line, Maryland has become California on the Chesapeake. There are policies that emanate from the state capital and Annapolis have become progressively more. left leaning every single year. It only gets worse. And it's not getting better. And, you know, at some point, I just had to make a personal decision that it's time to throw in the towel. He's going out. he's been there for a long time he has seen what has happened over the last decade plus in maryland maryland in general is a far-left deep-blue state Do they even have a Republican member of Congress there? It's kind of like Massachusetts. Another deeply gerrymandered state, once again, to benefit Democrats and to lock out conservative Republican leadership. But this guy has seen, the other thing he talked about, again, top prosecutor in one of the most populated counties in Maryland, he's talked about the whole... notion of making Maryland a sanctuary state, which makes it much more violent, much more difficult job, certainly for law enforcement and prosecutors, but that is the left. The left putting identity politics and so-called social justice, which is injustice for so many Americans. Putting that as a priority as opposed to doing what they were elected to do or hired to do. And that is to keep their cities.
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