The Joyce Kaufman Show 4-3-26 Good Friday & Passover, great US jobs report, Somali immigrants, United Nations, Pam Bondi
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107 segmentsThis is the Joyce Kaufman podcast, honest, straight and unapologelic with your host, Joyce Kaufman. You know, sometimes I just have to listen to the words of that song. And I recommend that you do the same thing. It's so powerful when you think about the sacrifice and you think about the men and women who volunteer to be on the front lines. And that's why on Friday. I don't really care what anybody has to say about it. I will always just spend some few moments to remember just the incredible, the nobility of the American military. Unfortunately, a U.S. F-15 fighter jet has reportedly been shot down over southern Iran with the Iranian state media, which you can't believe, claiming that the regime down the aircraft, and of course, immediately they went into search and rescue looking for the two-person crew. According to the most recent... what I've been able to gather from the various sources, the second U.S. 5th generation F-35 was struck and downed by a new IRGC Aerospace Force Air Defense System. That's what they want you to think. That's what Qatar Malinibia, the headquarters. their spokesperson said. And given the massive explosion on impact and during the crash, it's pretty unlikely that the pilot would have ejected, but the search and rescue mission apparently has retrieved a soldier. So all I can do is continue to monitor it on OAN, on Spectrum. I think I was getting it on YouTube TV. And as soon as I know more, I will share that information, but I'm sure many of you are going to follow this as closely as I am. It's a search and rescue mission that's ongoing in southern Iran. President Trump has been briefed on this, and of course, this is the stuff that imagine when you're the leader of the free world, you are the single most powerful human being on the planet. There's no question that the President of the United States gets that title, has that position. But imagine when you have to sit there and know that the men and women that you send out on these missions, sometimes don't come back. And we don't know what the end's going to be for the two-man crew, but my prayers started going up the moment I heard about it. And we continue to pray. There's power in prayer. You know, this is the season where so many faiths are paying attention to what's really important. It's this relationship that you have with your Savior. You know, if you're a Christian, they call this Good Friday.
which was always confusing to me as a child, since I knew what the story was and didn't sound like that was a very good Friday, but that's in fact what we have always called the Friday before Resurrection Sunday. In any case, for the Jewish faith, we're in Passover. So I love, I said this yesterday, I love when the two holidays are tandem like this, because it was the last supper was the first night of Passover in that day. And that was when Christians were told that you shall remember this day always. And there are certain things that faith does in every different, you know, traditional way. So I wish to Azizhem Pesach to my Jewish listeners, a memorable Good Friday to my Christian listeners. And I don't know. Really, I don't know what if it's Ramadan or something. Then let me pay tribute to those who are practicing their faith. Getting on with some of the business, though, that has to be reported, you're not going to hear this in many places. But we just had an incredibly good jobs report. Somehow, you won't hear that on most of the media. It blew out all the expectations, because I've been monitoring this carefully since last night. You had strong construction job growth. You had a surge in manufacturing job creation. Because remember all these times when the president would sit there with, you know, the leader of Japan or the, you know, leader of some other country? And he would say, well, they're going to pump all this money in and build plants and factories here in the U.S. and bring business with them, bring money with them. Well, guess what? Now it's happening. That wasn't an instantaneous act when a country decides they're going to pump a ton of money, billions of dollars, sometimes trillions of dollars, into the U.S. economy. It's a pretty major ordeal, and it takes time. So we're on a solid economic trajectory, and there's only one person who can get credit for this. He takes the blame for everything, so he ought to get the credit when it's due. This is the result of the tax cuts. This is the result of deregulation. This is the result of tariffs with all the boo-hoo criers over tariffs. And it's also, it's the result of energy dominance. Americans can go to bed tonight. Not that you will, because we're just like a worry Kevin Warsh, all of us, but you should go to bed tonight knowing that after some short-term disruptions, which we're going to feel as a result of Operation Epic Fury, once that's behind us, the economic resurgence is going to be incredible. You can see it. It's now on the horizon.
And it'll accelerate. If you crush expectations again, which is what just happened, you should be able to break it down for your audience. They added 178,000 new jobs in the month of March. That is triple the number that the economists had forecasted. That's showing you just how off some of the reportage has been. This is the pro-growth agenda that Donald Trump believes in that he ran on and that he will continue to lead in. And it demonstrates something important that we need to pat ourselves a little bit on the back. Because no other country is going to do it, I assure you. But it validates the resilience of our labor market. under the leadership of this administration. Manufacturing's roaring back. It's not just slowly emerging. It's roaring back. In the first quarter of 2026 to have positive manufacturing job growth. It's the first time in three years that we've seen that in a first quarter. It's pretty different than the Biden era, where it went down every first quarter. In fact, every major indicator now points towards a sustained expansion as the tariffs and these pro-manufacturing policies actually take hold. Construction is surging. Another 26,000 construction jobs were added in March. And what is driving that? Well, it's propelled by the strong gains in all of the specialty, excuse me, the specialty trades and residential building. I need to not drink icy water. It's very difficult to speak when you get little ice chips. Anyway, the economy has added an average of 68,000 jobs per month so far this year. That's a big improvement over 2025, and it's significantly outperforming everybody's expectations. Well, you know, it's easy to outperform expectations when the expectations are always so low. Wages, by the way, are rising for American workers. Private sector weekly earnings have climbed almost 4% over the past year. That's a real gain for you and me and our paychecks. We're also, what's the right way to say this? Right sizing, making government the right size and unleashing the private sector. You know, the federal workforce has been reduced to its smallest level. Get a hold of this since 1966. It's like three generations ago. It's the lowest share of the total labor force in over a century. Because the Trump administration has fostered a strong private sector. He's a believer. He made his money. We could sit here in Quibbolosia. Millionaire, a trillionaire, a billionaire, nothing there. It doesn't really matter. We know he made a lot of money. And we know that he's a great believer.
in initiative and the American work ethic. He's got it. His whole cabinet's got it. I don't think these people ever sleep. Does Marco Rubio ever go home? I mean, it's hard to figure out how they have any lives. They're working a lot. If you're going to follow this man, you're going to be on the job a lot. Maybe not 24 hours a day, but darn close. The prime age... workers are coming back into the workforce. I'm talking about like women between the ages of 25 and 54, a record high labor force participation rate this month of March. And prime age male population? Unbelievable numbers. Under this president's leadership, our economy is once again proving it's the strongest and has the greatest potential. in the world. So when you got a pro-growth administration with pro-growth policies firmly in place, the best days for American workers are ahead of us, for manufacturers, for families, they're ahead of us. And I've got to tell you, you're not going to hear that today. They're not talking about that today. No. They're talking about anything that could make this administration look weak and bad, but not on this show. And I have my problems with him. I'm pretty upset with Donald Trump, as you all know, over a number of issues. I don't want him bailing. I want to win this war once and for all. This regime has to go. We can't leave it in any form or fashion. All right. Don't think I'm a little excited today. Can't blame me. Don't forget to download the 850 app. Put it on your phone, your laptop, wherever you want it. You can listen to podcasts immediately. You can also enter our contests and you can get breaking news, which is always a good idea because it's break in every minute. Let me take a quick time out. I will not be speaking with my son Derek today. He is... has taken his family down to Puerto Rico to spend some time on the spring break with Papa, and therefore he's not working today. His hardworking mother is. I'll be right back. So thanks to my friend Perry, who got me more updated news because I'm trying to work five different stories at the same time. And this second jet that went down, they have... In fact, according to the New York Times, the pilot was safely rescued. Now, I know it was a two-man cruise, so we'll let you know as we get more information about that. That's why you need that 850 app, because it'd be right in your fingertips all the news. But I digress. One thing I can say, and I think this is important, and I'm going to frame it in a way that even like the left, will have to pay attention to the story. Not that they're going to like it, but I've learned that you can sometimes just finesse and get everybody on the same page. Because for all the people who believe that the Somali Americans have failed to assimilate, I'm one of those people. I kept saying, you know, you can't come to this country bringing all your traditions and bringing all your ideology if it doesn't line up with the United States Constitution, right?
And I said there are certain communities, one's in Dearborn, Michigan, one in Minnesota, that they're just not assimilating. It doesn't look like they're assimilating. And then I realized, well, wait a second. If Gryft is as American as apple pie, then they are assimilating. You know, it's debatable that P.T. Barnum ever said there's a sucker born every minute, but it's not. at all debatable that W.C. feels once said it's morally wrong to allow a sucker to keep his money. So in the case of Minnesota's Somali Medicaid fraud scandal, we're talking about an $18 billion fraud that's been perpetrated for years right under the noses of the leaders who all happen to be Democrats who run the state. That sucker that W.C. Fields was talking about is you, the American taxpayer. And in the case of Somali-born, Minneapolis-based Democrat congresswoman, Ilhan Omar, the sucker, is the American criminal justice system and its commitment to the rule of law. Working against us, the people. She, as far as I can see, and I've been looking and you've been watching, this story's been unfolding for five years, at least. She committed immigration fraud. She, and I'm not even going to sit in moral judgment of it. Let's just talk about the legality. You can't marry your brother. And you can't lie and say he isn't your brother. And then you can't go to Congress if you've done those things. That would be my take. But apparently, we're not sure. This is the kind of stuff that irritates, hardworking, do it right, try to live by all the rules, Americans. You know, if, and the vice president is the one who brought this up most recently. If in fact she committed immigration fraud against the United States of America, shouldn't she be punished? If she engaged in a sham marriage to her brother in order to skirt the immigration laws and get them into this country, now don't get me wrong. There's nothing I wouldn't do for my brother. Well, let me rephrase that. I would not commit immigration. I would not break the law from my brother. And that's just me being honest. I would have to say no. I can't do that. But the short of it is that she apparently did that. And what are the legal remedies? Now, if we are convinced and if it is proven that she did commit immigration fraud, how do you go after her? How do you investigate her? How do you actually build a case to actually get some justice for the American people?
Those are good questions, and they deserve answers. And not just because she's a vile Jew hater and an apologist for the criminality that was going on in Minnesota in that Somali community with Medicare fraud and food banks that didn't really do anything. You know, they deserve answers because either we're a nation of laws or we're not. And while they're at it, you know, while they're looking at this, because the vice president said they're going to go after her, they're going to find out, well, then maybe they should also, while they're looking, try to figure out how her third husband got so rich so quickly. Because as the New York Post was reporting, as of 2024, congressional financial disclosures revealed that she and her husband, were worth about $30 million in just one year after the same husband, Minette, reported being nearly broke in every other form that he filed. Because they have to do these financial disclosures in Congress. So he was broke until 2024. And then all of a sudden, it's like a miracle. Congress, nice work if you can get it. I mean, I'm sorry, but this has to be looked into. And if something illegal took place, this has to be prosecuted. And if the money is a result of her wielding power or people believing she was wielding power in her voting record at Congress, well, if that's not grounds for removal, what is? If she stole from the American taxpayer, should we allow her to sit there? Just wondering out loud, right? As to her marriage fraud, you know, blogger Nick Freitas said that back in the day, she and her brother reportedly referred to each other in familial terms. The smoking gun is a now removed Instagram post by her second husband in which he called her 2012 newborn daughter, his niece. And there are other posts that showed a similar connection, family connection, suggesting a sibling relationship rather than a spousal one. There is definitely something to see here, folks. You can't just keep moving along. Indeed, there was a story in Powerline. I think it was Scott Johnson's story. It's been around for years. That there was some really damning receipts from a Somali who claimed on a website that they have. It's called Somali Spot. It's like a Somali community website. It that they have, it's called Somali spot, it's like a Somali community website, that they reported that she in fact had committed marriage and immigration fraud and that it was an open secret in the Somali community. I guess they were laughing with her, not at her, with her.
That web page, by the way, has been shoved down the memory hole. Imagine that. Wonder why. That should put to rest all of the trotting out of the race card. This is not about race. Do we ever learn? Haven't we learned anything yet? Marriage fraud is no laughing matter. It's a federal crime and it's punishable by up to five years in prison and a quarter of a million dollar fine. Heck, how about just simple deportation? I don't know if she'll ever be held accountable. It's probably cynical, considering that her presence in Congress is actually, as a member of the Democrat Party, is actually beneficial to Republicans politically. And that shouldn't trump the rule of law, however, but it's out there. The most galling part of this whole Ilhan Omar saga is the double standard that we afford the 535 members of an old boys and girls club in our nation's capital. Because there's no way an anonymous Somali immigrant who's been credibly accused of immigration fraud would be receiving the same kind of treatment, this kid glove treatment that she's receiving. Let me put it another way. What kind of message are President... Donald Trump and Vice President JD Vance sending to the American people when they go on record with their belief that a member of Congress committed immigration fraud and then they don't pursue the case against her. Well, and the message is that. If there's credible evidence that she did this, then she should have her day in court. And if the United States government makes the case, then she should be deported. Any other standard reeks of two-tiered justice, and that is absolutely poisonous to the rule of law. We're a nation of laws, remember? It's why these people flee here. They come from countries where they're afraid of their government, where they're abused by their government. Here, we bend over backwards. Our government bends over backwards and has this good old boys and girls club called Congress, which is really shameful. Anyway, let me take a break. I've got to take a quick break. Please, you stay right where you are. I'll be right back. I have to chuckle. I had asked my producer Mick when I heard the weather report at the top of the hour. She had said, you don't have to grab your reindeer, but she said rain gear. Hey, sometimes the imaginary words are way more fun than the real words. I did want to mention that the NATO secretary, this guy, what do they call him, Secretary General, I think, Mark Rut. He's coming to Washington next week for meetings with the president. And their relationship has been pretty good when you think about...
how many negative statements the president has made about NATO, and in particular this last couple of weeks, where none of these NATO countries stepped up and we weren't even asking them to do anything other than allow us to use the bases that basically we built. And we just wanted to use them for refueling. And they all, oh, we're not involved. This is not our war. This is your war. Okay, well, guess what? When you need America, we just may have to say this is not our war. That's not the arrangement. NATO exists so that these countries who are participants would never be in that position where they would basically have no... credible allies, allies that would step up. So anyway, Mark Red is coming. And the Wall Street Journal said, I guess I read a report yesterday morning. I'm trying to remember if it was yesterday or Wednesday. Anyway. Imagine if you have to come to the U.S. and meet with the president who has spent the last few days talking about just getting out of NATO, who's the Secretary of State Marco Rubio talking about revisiting whether or not NATO is a useful organization for us. Obviously, it's useful for the European nations. They get a lot, a lot of bang for their few bucks. And now they're coughing up a little more money, but nowhere near what a fair share would be. So it should be, and I'd love to be a fly on the wall in that meeting, huh? This meeting was scheduled so far in advance. Although with Donald Trump, you know, whenever the meeting is scheduled, you got a 50-50 chance of it being at a good time. for your organization, for NATO, or a bad time. I would say this is a particularly bad time for NATO, because the American people are mad at them. It's not just President Trump having a hissy fit, although he's doing that. We're sitting here thinking, why are we always on the line? Why are we the first line of defense when it's really Europe that's got the most danger? Even realistically speaking, the fact that the mullahs in Iran had nuclear weapons and ballistic missile launchers was way bigger problem for Europe than it was for us. Getting a missile loaded onto a rocket that could reach America was still out of their grasp. Not so much if you're sitting in Paris, though. So, you know, no matter how you slice it, the idea that America should pick up the tab, have the most actual physical presence in this war, Israel and America, that's it. Nobody else. Finally, you have some Arab nations in the last two weeks that have said, oh, no, we're in.
You know, proving to be better allies than NATO. That should make you scratch your head. But that's where we are. So they'll have a, he didn't really talk about it in depth on that. little TV thing, the prime time address that he did on Wednesday. It came up, but he likes this rut guy. He's always said he was a good guy, pragmatic, very effective, and been way more responsive than the other European officials when the U.S. asks, you know, for money for defense spending and stuff like that. And during the first term, during Donald Trump's first presidency, he was one of the few European leaders that was able to just stay in a relationship, in a constructive relationship with our president. I got to give him credit for that. At the same time, Trump's anger and frustration with NATO has quintupled. And I don't blame them. I feel the same way. Why would we spend all that money and possibly send our sons and daughters, husbands and wives, off to fight in a battle, protecting people who wouldn't let us refuel our airplanes when that's all we were asking? At bases, we built, mind you. Okay? So we'll see. It's all with Donald Trump, the businessman, comes out right now. So now he sits down and he says, okay, is this alliance between the United States and NATO, is it actually, does it have sufficient value to keep doing it? Because if not, he'll pull the blog. Ask Pam Bondi. Oh, and as predictable, you know, I said, when I first heard the news about Pam Bondi, I said, well, they're going to turn this into, he's a misogynist and he hates women because Kristi Noem got booted and now, you know, now the Attorney General Pam Bondi got booted. And so sure enough, it took him the day and a half, but the media got there. Yeah, and some of the stories are, in my opinion, hilarious. I mean, talk about stretching to come up with a storyline. They really had a... It's got to be double-jointed, actually, to pull this one off. Because... First, he was criticized because they look like bimbos. Do you remember in the early stages when he was picking women? Oh, he only likes photogenic women. And he's not nice. And he says all these terrible things to women and about women. So that was a problem. Now the problem is going to be, oh, but he'll fire a woman. He hasn't fired any men yet. Well, first and foremost.
I think with Donald Trump, you work for him as long as you work with him. If you stop working with him or he doubts your loyalty for even a minute, you might as well keep your bags packed. That would be my advice, right? But this has nothing to do with the fact that Pam Bondi is a woman and certainly has nothing. Nothing. to do with this theory I saw this morning in one of the papers. It might have been the New York Times. It might have been, or the Washington Post, but they were trying to peddle this theory that Melania. was, they did this with the Obama's too. You know, the media just makes stuff up. If it even has one iota of possibility, they'll run with a story. You know, oh, his wife is jealous. Let's be real. I have looked, I can say this because I'm a woman. I probably won't get in trouble. No male hosts will be allowed to say it. But if I had three women standing in front of me, You know, and let's be real, Pam Bondi, Kristi Noem and Melania Trump. Would Melania have any reason to be jealous or insecure? Come on. You know, really? So I guess Tulsi Gabbard must be next, which is too bad that, because I think she should go. I would have fired her first. But. According to all of the theories that I've been reading in the newspaper, which are based on absolutely nothing most of the time, Tulsi Gabbard should be next. And let's see, then who's the Labor Secretary? I think there's been some rumors about her as well. He's going to get rid of all the women. It's a real, real thing. Do you wonder sometimes how they sleep at night, some of the people who report the news to us? Like, they know they're lying. They know that they're building and creating a false impression about a man who is literally, you know, the most powerful person on the planet. And they don't care. They don't feel bad about it. If anything, they get like a super charge out of it. I couldn't do it. You know, I can't sleep at night if I sign off at 4 o'clock and I forgot to do something, didn't say something that I felt needed to be said or discovered that I was wrong. That does happen. Not often, but it does happen. But I can't even sleep if I said, oh my gosh, I told the audience that so-and-so was going to be there and they're not. I feel terrible. I won't stay up all night, but it might concern me. These people lie to us, get caught lying to us, and they double down. They...
They commit themselves to the lie. I think they believe the lie. That's the only thing I can think of. I couldn't do it. You couldn't pay me enough money to do it. And they do it with such, you know, seriousness. They want to be dignified. I heard somebody, oh gosh, who was it? It was on CNN, one of these longtime pundits. who was talking about their integrity at CNN. And I'm like sitting there hysterically laughing. Like they have convinced themselves that the American public, when they think of CNN, they don't think of all the jokes like, you know, the Clinton News Network. They believe. that when people see the word CNN reporting, that people get very serious and long for the truth. That's not what most people experience, but they really keep looking in the mirror and seeing this image that they have of themselves, which the rest of us don't share. Anyway, don't forget, coming up after me is the one and only Guy Benson, followed by Will Kane. Then it's going to be Joe Pags and Lars Larson, and the weekend will begin. And there's always... Unfortunately these days, there's always news on the weekend. So if you got the app, you would get breaking news reports all the time. And if not, you're going to have to wait until Monday morning at 6 a.m. when Jennifer Ross and Stephen Deiner come back with the South Florida Morning Show, followed by Brian Kilmeade at 9, Eric Erickson at noon, and I'll be back at 3 o'clock. Still have a segment left in today's program. As I said earlier, Derek will not be joining me because he's gallivanting in Puerto Rico with his family. I'll be back, though, in just a moment. Stay right where you are. I'll tell you, just a couple of days ago, the House of Representatives took this, I think, a really good step, a critical step, and they passed the Deporting Fraudsters Act of 2026. And it was a pretty decisive vote. I think it was like two, let me look. I had it written in my notes. Yeah, it was a... 231 yay's 186 vote, which means they had some Democrats who voted for this. It was a bill that the Republican from Ohio, this Dave Taylor, had put fart. And it was amazing. It's what the people want. I know it's not what Congress wanted because it demands, it gives us accountability.
And there are consequences built in. This is so long overdue. It makes it explicitly deportable for any illegal alien to defraud the United States government or to steal benefits that are funded by American taxpayers. When I read that, all I can say is like, really, we needed to make this a law? Like, we didn't just know this was the right thing and do it. It's a huge loophole. And it allowed people to exploit programs that are designed to do good. Snap, you know, the supplemental nutrition assistance, Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, right? These are... The safety net, the umbrella that protects American citizens. But no, no, no. It got exploited and it was illegal aliens using up these benefits without any punishment. That's the part that's so crazy that they would get caught and it was not what we call an instantly deportable offense. I don't know what they did. Because if you've been living off of SNAP or any number of these programs, perhaps for your entire time living in America, what do you do afterwards? Would they take it away from you? You might actually have to work. But wait a minute. You shouldn't be able to work because jobs should go to citizens first, right? Yeah. It might be right. It's not what happens. So this was a fundamental correction. Under this legislation, if you falsify documents, if you commit benefit fraud or admit to such crimes, you will not only face deportation. but you will be banned permanently from re-entering the United States. No loopholes, no excuses, no second chances for people who deliberately abuse the generosity of the American people. Because that's what it is. It's your dollar, my dollar. Government doesn't have money. It's our money. And this bill, that's what justice looks like. Because for too long, Washington has sent the wrong message that breaking our laws, no real big major consequences. If you exploit our system, we'll tolerate that. And then the American taxpayers, we pick up the tab. That era is over. It had to end. And I guess this bill was the... the last step in the right direction. But the fight's not over. That's the part that's so, well, unsatisfying, if I can use that word, that's the part that kills me. We still have so many loopholes and so many ways around what's right. Not even what's legal and illegal, but what's right.
Now the responsibility shifts to the United States Senate, the House passed it, and this is where the leadership gets tested. This is where rhetoric and the blah, blah, blah has to turn into action. The American people are watching. and they're demanding results. Every citizen who believes in the rule of law, anybody who believes in fairness and in protecting our nation's resources, they have got to make their voice heard. This is not the time for minding your manners and being silent. No, this is the time for action. And all you have to do, all I have to do is contact my two senators. That's it. You know, call Moody's office, call Rick Scott's office. Say, yo, you work for me. And this is what I think. This is a no-brainer. And we got to, you got to back these people up. You know, they go off to the Senate and they made a ton of promises to us. And then they don't fulfill them. And we vote them in again. That's got to end. you know i was a person who never believes in term limits because i said we have term limits they're called elections if they're not doing their job get rid of em but for some reason we have seemed incapable of doing that we leave em there I wanted to get into this other subject, too. I hope I can get into it next week. But, you know, I've been thinking about, well, I listened to Stephen Deaner's Unidentified Alien podcast. And I've always had, you know, I've always thought about aliens and spaceships. I convinced I saw one in the keys on the bridge, ride my motorcycle, and no, I was not intoxicated. And I was with a very conservative former radio colleague who has since, you know, passed or excitement. And if he saw it and admitted he saw it, then I feel kind of like I really did see it. And there really was a spaceship. But anyway, I want to talk about it because... It occurred to me the other day with all of the stuff that's up in the sky now, because I'm on Starlink. So there are satellites everywhere, right? With every sensor that's out there. And billions of cameras, right? Doorbell cameras and ring this and the ones that people have on the dashboard of their car. I mean, there's cameras everywhere. How come we still don't have a single craft, not a single piece of verified material that holds up under open scrutiny? That's not a small detail. That's the whole story.
Because if it were real, we wouldn't be arguing about it. Anyway, it came up because there's a scientist who's been missing. And apparently there's a couple of scientists who are missing, and they all were involved in unidentified aliens research. So anyway, maybe I'll get to it next week. Thank you for your time, this time, until next time, because I have a plan, and that plan is to be back here on Monday. at 3 o'clock, if it be his will, and he delays his coming. Remember that what lies behind us and what lies ahead of us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us. So wherever you are, just be yourself. Everybody else is taken. You've got to be yourself. And then, of course, as I always say, may God bless you. May God bless Israel and may God bless the USA. Happy resurrection Sunday. Happy Passover. This has been the Joyce Kaufman podcast, available everywhere you get your podcasts.